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Lafate
03-07-2016, 10:56 AM
To put it as simply as possible. This is a guide with videos for the new story and daily maps coming out. Japanese Map names because I am lazy and tired. Don't much feel like trying to predict how they will name it for us.

Desert Map Set

Note: I stand corrected after I woke up from sleeping. The drop numbers are
2-1-2
2-1-2
2-2-2
2-1-2
2-1-2
2-2-2
2-2-2
2-2-2
1-3-2

Battlefield of Boiling Sand

Charisma: 25
Experience: 350
Gold at 3☆: 1950
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 39
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkSWTBSizbc
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/395b2fa094a62698.png
Drops: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/680af97b50a18023.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7dd48755fe773884.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7debc976bb302acf.png
Completion Reward: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/209d0e489f1a9bf8.png


Sand Waste Metropolitan

Charisma: 28
Experience: 394
Gold at 3☆: 2130
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 60
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufd0-nuykjY
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a2bb4ae681d0b972.png
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/b5f59c899724fcc6.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/48c47cdf69b17aff.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/bd02c2a961afefed.png
Completion Reward: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a6db0b93d540419f.png


Fiery Oasis

Charisma: 28
Experience: 394
Gold at 3☆: 2130
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 60
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drlf2PX61x4
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/6f10c1416d551a10.png
Drops: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/680af97b50a18023.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/9351693b4f8acb4c.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7dd48755fe773884.png
Completion Reward:http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/316526482b0e91d0.PNG


Monsters that lurk in the desert

Charisma: 33
Experience: 470
Gold at 3☆: 2445
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 55
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_99cMlF9yA
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/92cd0a80a2664a4d.png
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/0b60628ccdcc1036.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c935bc11b8032923.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/63e9000505c336b6.png
Completion Reward: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/edff4cc05a5af4a3.png


Base Battle, Before

Charisma: 36
Experience: 514
Gold at 3☆: 2625
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 74
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3-cppXn9Do
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/e4ab70c7cfde2dcd.png
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/362a6b040dd262b6.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/4c4aa3b3b3193f50.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/06526ed8795f1edb.png
Completion Reward: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/9a7dcdc58d7dc6cb.PNG


Base Battle, After

Charisma: 40
Experience: 580
Gold at 3☆: 2970
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 12
Number of Enemies: 97
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7FIByaqPM
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2041afc160dc205b.png
Drops: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/680af97b50a18023.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7531644ea7e0e832.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7dd48755fe773884.png
Completion Reward: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c05ca1178b12c71d.png


Scorpion of the Desert

Charisma: 44
Experience: 639
Gold at 3☆: 3135
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 51
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpsG8vAQOl8
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/398ec2e4860a3103.png
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/ab5bade2e5fd1fb0.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2d951f392058326f.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7dd48755fe773884.png
Completion Reward: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/50706b5542dba340.png


Crisis approaching the Oasis

Charisma: 47
Experience: 684
Gold at 3☆: 3330
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 37
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd46L0-DILU
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/07df1b4ef57bc10d.png
Drops: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/587cebbc1c9f4397.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/bcc28482a466fbff.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7dd48755fe773884.png
Completion Reward: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/8794cf639e726106.PNG


Two of the Pyramid

Charisma: 51
Experience: 745
Gold at 3☆: 3525
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 12
Number of Enemies: 54
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHRQJZpC73E
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/6fad7728325a4244.png
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2447c044dcd996c7.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2d2f2a676fb9c76b.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7dd48755fe773884.png
Completion Reward: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/f4309d2341c47d13.png



Gem Daily Mission Set (Obviously the Gems will not be there for the classes we do not have yet)

Monday: Awakening Gem: White Shooter G

Charisma: 90
Experience: 250
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 34
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdtO1-kVa68
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/bac0645d3fc54e0c.jpg
Drops: Sniper Gem, Dark Knight Gem, Priestess Gem, Rear Strategist Gem, Heavy Cannoneer Gem


Tuesday: Awakening Gem: Unicorn Knight G

Charisma: 90
Experience: 250
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 33
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD_c6eV28M0
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a775b252cae8977e.jpg
Drops: Unicorn Knight Gem, Pegasus Knight Gem, Master Monk Gem, Berserker Gem, Feng Shui Master Gem


Wednesday: Awakening Gem: Pirate of Legend G

Charisma: 90
Experience: 250
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 34
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPveRYXmzA
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/dd6c9c58e07a09a1.png
Drops: Soldier Chief Gem, Assassin Gem, Captain Gem, High Shaman Gem, High Bishop Gem


Thursday: Awakening Gem: Superhuman Strength Girl G

Charisma: 90
Experience: 250
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 34
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TglJdHXPN3w
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/5abee51b056b0596.png
Drops: Battle Master Gem, Samurai Master Gem, Rune Fencer Gem, Vampire Killer Gem, Sailor Chief Gem


Friday: Awakening Gem: Witch G

Charisma: 90
Experience: 250
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 31
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FhjZrctwec
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/15ff9b7ae1035c78.jpg
Drops: Lode Witch Gem, Warlock Gem, Advance Strategist Gem, Ninja Master Gem, Archangel Gem


Saturday: Awakening Gem: Mashirubeyoroihime G

Charisma: 90
Experience: 250
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 31
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSTI0eseeu4
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/4b60d344352354be.png
Drops: Battle Mage Gem, Priest Warrior Chief Gem, Top Dancer Gem, Dragon Knight Gem, High Ranger Gem


Sunday: Awakening Gem: Moonlight Bow Cavalry G

Charisma: 90
Experience: 250
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 34
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3PbqZHHXI
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7758990e6e9482c4.png
Drops: Bow Rider Chief Gem, Master of Automata Gem, High Alchemist Gem, Master Thief Gem, Shaman Gem(Referring to the Curse Users CC form)



New Classes Arriving


Cannoneer/Heavy Cannoneer/Master Cannoneer

Damage Type: Physical
Blocks: -
Role: Rear
Description: Units of this class are the physical counterpart to the Mage class meaning they have AoE damage. They deal more damage than Pirates and Archers, but this comes at a slower attacking speed. They have a longer range than Archers, but a shorter one then Pirates.



Priest Warrior/Priest Warrior Chief/Divine Armor

Damage Type: Physical
Blocks: 3
Role: Tank, Support
Description: Units of this class are used to provide additional healing from a non-ranged slot. Useful when your ranged slots are all occupied by other units, and you need the additional healing. They can block multiple enemies like a soldier, but they will stop healing and attack the enemies they are blocking. During skill activation they will focus on healing, regardless of if they are blocking any enemy or not.



New Characters Arriving

Note: Stats based on Current DMM Patch

Cat Witch Nenya

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/82e3d30257b51017.png
HP: 897
Atk: 367
Def: 70
MR: 10
Range: 210
Cost: 9
Skill: 30% Attack increase and 15% Range increase for 60s| WT: 60; CT: 60
Ability: -


Ninja Kagerou

http://gyazo.com/0aa4a9bcb408c77f971ed8cc07c88cb6.png
HP: 1090
Atk: 300
Def: 169
MR: 0
Block: 1 (200)
Cost: 12
Skill: 30% Chance to avoid physical attacks for 20s| Instant Death Attack| WT: 40; CT: 40
Ability: -


Desert Soldier

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/745d6200225c1e8a.jpg
HP: 836
Atk: 201
Def: 137
MR: 0
Block: 2
Cost: 4
Skill: -
Ability: -


Skilled Soldier Hashim

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c0cc11bae102df2d.PNG
HP: 968
Atk: 229
Def: 143
MR: 0
Block: 2
Cost: 4
Skill: -
Ability: Grants 30 extra experience when used as leveling fodder.


Thief Ballad

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/50f7116d3679d4eb.png
HP: 1067
Atk: 3
Def: 205
MR: 0
Block: 1
Cost: 5
Skill: 50% Attack increase for 15s| Instant Death Attack| WT: 50; CT: 50
Ability: -


Vampire Hunter Fourier

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a87851a9932aa199.png
HP: 1477
Atk: 298
Def: 199
MR: 0
Range: 200
Cost: 11
Skill: 50% Attack increase for 25s| WT: 30; CT: 30
Ability: -


Desert Warrior Assal

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/22cdf6289a967c7c0f83.png
HP: 1612
Atk: 311
Def: 208
MR: 0
Block: 3
Cost: 8
Skill: Instantly Grants 5 Unit Points| WT: 20; CT: 20
Ability: -


Artillery Pashisu

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/133b1d979e760b2d.png
HP: 969
Atk: 513
Def: 71
MR: 0
Range: 280
Cost: 24
Skill: 150% AoE increase for 30s| WT: 45; CT: 45
Ability: -


Religious Warrior Ether

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/fe964273c17dbf6c.png
HP: 1365
Atk: 215
Def: 305
MR: 10
Block: 3
Cost: 11
Skill: 60% Attack increase for 15s| Focus on Healing| WT: 35; CT: 35
Ability: -

ZeroZet
03-07-2016, 11:19 AM
Thank you for the effort!
Now, to figure which map should be better choice to grind for unit levelling than RtR...

ЗЫ. Desperately hoping devs won't replace Nenya this time around...
ЗЗЫ. How about Kagerou, is it finally her time to join the harem? Is Assal in danger for her stature, or not? Place your bets now, for we have half a day more before we learn the truth!

Lafate
03-07-2016, 11:29 AM
People are saying the 30/40 cost maps are the best.

Honestly it just the one with the new bronze soldier that are the best to run.

YoxalLoyal
03-07-2016, 11:36 AM
I'm currently grinding on Fiery Oasis on my DMM account and it's doing a good job levelling my units up. It gives around 2K less gold than DH, but if you're rich on gold, then you're fine. The bronze soldier helps a lot in levelling my units.

gam
03-07-2016, 11:44 AM
Thanks for the guide as usual.

So these desert maps will be permanent?

YoxalLoyal
03-07-2016, 11:59 AM
So these desert maps will be permanent?
Yeah. They're part of the Story maps starting tomorrow. New players have to beat Castle Retake to access them.

Eab1990
03-07-2016, 12:11 PM
So how well can I blind-run these maps with Nanaly?

Lafate
03-07-2016, 12:27 PM
So how well can I blind-run these maps with Nanaly?

What Nanaly? *walks a with a wiggling burlap sac over my shoulder*

seorizuki
03-07-2016, 12:30 PM
finally i could say goodbye to dragon hunting.
40 char map (base struggle 2nd) is the best, but clearing it is pretty hard because it needs many high level/maxed range unit to clear it, so 30 char oasis map is better for newbies


So how well can I blind-run these maps with Nanaly?
just watch out for worm monster rush, especially on 4th map, because even nanaly couldnt do shit against them when they're still underground

Eab1990
03-07-2016, 12:44 PM
What Nanaly? *walks a with a wiggling burlap sac over my shoulder*

Good thing I have two hurr.


finally i could say goodbye to dragon hunting.
40 char map (base struggle 2nd) is the best, but clearing it is pretty hard because it needs many high level/maxed range unit to clear it, so 30 char oasis map is better for newbies


just watch out for worm monster rush, especially on 4th map, because even nanaly couldnt do shit against them when they're still underground

Julian or Bernice should be enough to block them, no?

seorizuki
03-07-2016, 12:50 PM
Julian or Bernice should be enough to block them, no?
yep, any soldier or HA will do actually
the main problem is, could you deploy them when the rush come. well since you have mincost julian so its no problem i guess.

Tenhou
03-07-2016, 12:52 PM
40 char map (base struggle 2nd) is the best, but clearing it is pretty hard because it needs many high level/maxed range unit to clear it, so 30 char oasis map is better for newbies


Actually, unit exp-wise the 30 charisma map is better unless you have a manner of telling me that the 40 charisma map has better drop rates. Assuming the same drop rates it is more efficient to do the 30 stamina map provided you have the gold for it. Of course, the 40cha map is still better for prince exp and gold.

Eab1990
03-07-2016, 12:54 PM
yep, any soldier or HA will do actually
the main problem is, could you deploy them when the rush come. well since you have mincost julian so its no problem i guess.

Heh, you remembered.

I figured Julian would be better than Aria given the HP penalty and everything.

I'll probably need to make extensive use of Elizabeth as well...

seorizuki
03-07-2016, 01:25 PM
Actually, unit exp-wise the 30 charisma map is better unless you have a manner of telling me that the 40 charisma map has better drop rates. Assuming the same drop rates it is more efficient to do the 30 stamina map provided you have the gold for it. Of course, the 40cha map is still better for prince exp and gold.
eh, i didnt say anything about exp efficiency though :p
forgot the the source so take it with a grain of salt but base struggle did have better drop rate, though its all about rng in the end so it doesnt really matter
and you even say it yourself that base struggle is better for prince exp and gold
prince lvl up faster is a good thing, and having more gold is always better, because aw is a gold sink, so its better than oasis overall for me
well, both is good so there is no point arguing about this

Tenhou
03-07-2016, 01:33 PM
eh, i didnt say anything about exp efficiency though :p
forgot the the source so take it with a grain of salt but base struggle did have better drop rate, though its all about rng in the end so it doesnt really matter
and you even say it yourself that base struggle is better for prince exp and gold
prince lvl up faster is a good thing, and having more gold is always better, because aw is a gold sink, so its better than oasis overall for me
well, both is good so there is no point arguing about this

Yeah i won't argue that both are good. Personally i do the 30cha mission on DMM though since i need more unit exp and after calculating the difference in unit vs prince exp over time i found the unit exp to be the way to go. Then again, i was assuming it was the same drop rates, so i'll have to re-evaluate that later if i ever find the numbers. Thanks for telling me.

soranokira
03-07-2016, 07:33 PM
Note: All Iron and Bronze units drop twice per map. Yes this means a lot of the maps have four bronze unit drops. As oppose to the one you are use to.

^ nope. lafate you might want to check the drops again. not all maps have 2 of each drop. in the 1st 6 maps, only the 30 and 40 charisma maps have 6 drops, the rest only have a total of 5 drops (2-1-2)

also, saturday's orb map might be 'Madougaiki' depending on how you read it, but in any case it's 'Mage Armor Princess'

Lafate
03-07-2016, 08:11 PM
^ nope. lafate you might want to check the drops again. not all maps have 2 of each drop. in the 1st 6 maps, only the 30 and 40 charisma maps have 6 drops, the rest only have a total of 5 drops (2-1-2)

also, saturday's orb map might be 'Madougaiki' depending on how you read it, but in any case it's 'Mage Armor Princess'

Pretty sure everything was 2-2-2 granted I did make this when I was dead tired.

Looking at it now though. Wouldn't the 51 cost be best for gold efficiency. It drops 5 bronze units and they are all higher level then 30/40 maps

soranokira
03-07-2016, 08:51 PM
Pretty sure everything was 2-2-2 granted I did make this when I was dead tired.

Looking at it now though. Wouldn't the 51 cost be best for gold efficiency. It drops 5 bronze units and they are all higher level then 30/40 maps

potentially yes. although that's 11 charisma more per run for only 2 unit levels more (granted, it's 5 bronze vs 4 bronze). there's also the issue of being able to clear that map though. I personally think it depends on what unit you want to level. the 44 charisma map is perfect for archers. 40 for soldiers.

after which I'd jump to the eastern maps's 56 charisma map (5 bronze drops, 3 of which has the veteran ability (same as Hasim)), although that'd be somewhat further off for our version.

Kamahari Akuma
03-07-2016, 08:55 PM
Question: While I'd imagine it would make it easier, you don't necessarily need an AW unit to clear any of these maps for the Desert story missions right?

soranokira
03-07-2016, 09:03 PM
Question: While I'd imagine it would make it easier, you don't necessarily need an AW unit to clear any of these maps for the Desert story missions right?

no, I've managed to clear up to 44 charisma map with only cc'd units. only issue is for free players, you most likely need the silver VH free/fourier. her dps is broken for a silver. havent checked the higher charisma cost maps myself.
the account which didnt use the silver VH free didnt get past the 36 charisma map (to be exact, I didn't try, but as the maps go on, you'll find them to get tighter and tighter, especially on UP and unit placement timings. for example, you can check a couple of the sunday AW orb missions (copy map name and paste) on youtube. almost none of them are really all that easy, especially with full cost units)

buttlover
03-07-2016, 09:05 PM
Question: While I'd imagine it would make it easier, you don't necessarily need an AW unit to clear any of these maps for the Desert story missions right?

haven't cleared any desert maps pass the 44 stam one (went straight for eastern maps once they were unlocked, trying for awakened prince), i didn't AW any units to get to that point.

The key maps are clearable without AW units thats for sure.

Kamahari Akuma
03-07-2016, 09:16 PM
no, I've managed to clear up to 44 charisma map with only cc'd units. only issue is for free players, you most likely need the silver VH free/fourier. her dps is broken for a silver. havent checked the higher charisma cost maps myself.
the account which didnt use the silver VH free didnt get past the 36 charisma map (to be exact, I didn't try, but as the maps go on, you'll find them to get tighter and tighter, especially on UP and unit placement timings. for example, you can check a couple of the sunday AW orb missions (copy map name and paste) on youtube. almost none of them are really all that easy, especially with full cost units)

More broken than Elizabeth's? Who also happens to be -1 UC?

Premium was somewhat kind to me with Vampire Hunters.

soranokira
03-07-2016, 09:28 PM
More broken than Elizabeth's? Who also happens to be -1 UC?

Premium was somewhat kind to me with Vampire Hunters.

for free players =P and good for you regarding elizabeth. but iirc you didnt have bashira, right? that MIGHT cause you to struggle a little for the 40 charisma map. just a heads up.

edit: also, should point out that you do NOT want to throw bandits/duelists to delay the boss in 40 charisma map (base struggle - later). he might just one hit them, although I think his damage might just be 2k.

Kamahari Akuma
03-07-2016, 09:35 PM
for free players =P and good for you regarding elizabeth. but iirc you didnt have bashira, right? that MIGHT cause you to struggle a little for the 40 charisma map. just a heads up.

Didn't have enough DCs at the time they made Bashira the freebie unit you get from summons at the start, so no. The only thing that might be redeeming is that fact I have Spica at 50CC70 with 3/5 and a Victoria whom is 50CC41, and they somehow pulled me through the bs during the Beatrice event's swimming fishmen.

Unregistered
03-08-2016, 04:11 AM
Rest in peace, Angry-Spica

seorizuki
03-08-2016, 04:28 AM
Rest in peace, Angry-Spica

she cant be tsun forever
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eh, princess aw is not implemented yet
nice, when i was planning to aw Sherry first

soranokira
03-08-2016, 04:53 AM
she cant be tsun forever
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eh, princess aw is not implemented yet
nice, when i was planning to aw Sherry first

nuuuu Sherry golden army plan failed for sherry owners.

Askeladd
03-08-2016, 04:55 AM
My Lyla has been Awakened. No reason not too considering it was one of my priorities and Berserker orbs drop today :D

Blaxer
03-08-2016, 05:15 AM
My Lyla has been Awakened. No reason not too considering it was one of my priorities and Berserker orbs drop today :D

Gratz
I have to wait until monday to awaken my Spica...

Unregistered
03-08-2016, 05:35 AM
why the special bronze soldier only gives same xp as iron soldier from same map?

Koto
03-08-2016, 05:54 AM
eh, princess aw is not implemented yet
nice, when i was planning to aw Sherry first

They use valkyrie and rune fencer orbs. Princess orbs don't exist.

*edit* oh, the button is missing.

seorizuki
03-08-2016, 06:18 AM
They use valkyrie and rune fencer orbs. Princess orbs don't exist.

i know about it duh, im talking about when open aw tab there is no "special class" awakening

soranokira
03-08-2016, 06:19 AM
why the special bronze soldier only gives same xp as iron soldier from same map?

looks like a bug. NUTAKU BETTER COMPENSATE US FOR THIS.
and the fact that we got no nenya.

YoxalLoyal
03-08-2016, 06:22 AM
Guess I'll start with Clissa then since princesses cannot be AW yet. Btw, is it just me or did anyone else's stamp card reset back to normal card? I was supposed to have a Legend card for March, but it went to Normal card today.

Blaxer
03-08-2016, 06:25 AM
why the special bronze soldier only gives same xp as iron soldier from same map?

They are bugged, his ability is fucked up, he ends up giving half the xp instead of giving normal + same-class bonus (as he is suposed to)

soranokira
03-08-2016, 06:31 AM
They are bugged, his ability is fucked up, he ends up giving half the xp instead of giving normal + same-class bonus (as he is suposed to)

not just him. even the iron soldier and the iron pirate. my assumption is that they accidentally removed the base rarity exp for the new units (as well as didnt add the veteran ability Hashim was supposed to have)

anyway for those on about princess AW not included, exkale gave this: http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=805630&postcount=16584

Blaxer
03-08-2016, 06:34 AM
Huh, i guess it's just 6 maps for now...
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/03/08/o70nI2QEu.png

soranokira
03-08-2016, 06:36 AM
Huh, i guess it's just 6 maps for now...
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/03/08/o70nI2QEu.png

these are the first half of the desert story missions. the last 3 maps are the 2nd half which was released after some time in DMM as well. fyi, desert missions are unlocked after castle retake, so castle retake and before are the 1st half, which remnant3~IB are 2nd half of the 'kingdom maps'.

Blaxer
03-08-2016, 06:43 AM
these are the first half of the desert story missions. the last 3 maps are the 2nd half which was released after some time in DMM as well. fyi, desert missions are unlocked after castle retake, so castle retake and before are the 1st half, which remnant3~IB are 2nd half of the 'kingdom maps'.

Did we get the kingdom ark split like this?
It took me a time to get there and my account got a reset right after Belinda's event so I'm curious

Askeladd
03-08-2016, 06:51 AM
Yes it, seems everyone's Stamp Card has been reverted to normal.

To those of us who had Legend ones... this is a royal kick to our asses. They better fix this or they can be in some serious trouble.

soranokira
03-08-2016, 07:05 AM
Did we get the kingdom ark split like this?
It took me a time to get there and my account got a reset right after Belinda's event so I'm curious

not too sure but I think the answer is no. however, be prepared for future arks to be split:

Kingdom ark: castle retake unlocks 2nd half including IB and Desert ark
Desert ark: 'Base struggle - later half' 40 charisma map unlocks 2nd half and Eastern ark
Eastern/Oriental ark: 'Suppressing Fuujin', 59 charisma map unlocks 2nd half and magic city ark
Magic City ark: 'Giant Soldier of the Research Tower' 65 charisma map unlocks 2nd half and jungle ark
Jungle ark


2014/09/18
「不死の魔物」までの消費カリスマ 獲得EXP・獲得G・ドロップするユニッ トのLvの調整(旧仕様は過去データ参 照)
「熱砂の戦場」から「拠点争奪戦・ 」までが新規追加
2015/01/22
全てのストーリーミッションにおい 、出現敵とドロップの形式を他のミ ションと同様の形式に変更
2015/01/29
「砂漠のサソリ」から「二つのピラ ッド」までが新規追加 - 'Scorpion of the desert' until 'the two pyramid' released
2015/04/02
「東の国の港町」から「田を返せ! までが新規追加 - 'port town of the kingdom of the east' until 'recover the fields!' released
2015/04/16
「絶望の城下町」と「風神退治」が 規追加 - 'town below the castle of despair' and 'suppressing fuujin' released
2015/05/21
委任出撃の実装
2015/07/02
「落ち武者たちの行進」と「雷神襲 」が新規追加 - 2 eastern maps released
2015/09/16
「魔法都市への誘い」から「鋼鉄の 斧」までが新規追加 - 3 magic city ark maps released
2015/10/22
「転送の魔法陣」と「研究塔の巨兵 が新規追加 - 'the magic formation transfers' and 'giant soldier of the research tower' released
特定のミッションでの【★4チャレン 】が実装
神殿の森,女神の神殿,神殿を守れ!, 党退治1,狼の巣,山賊の隠れ家,深森の 大道,竜の狩場
2015/11/05
「密林の強者」から「立ち並ぶ軍旗 までが新規追加 - 3 jungle ark maps released
2015/11/26
「解き放たれし封印」と「魔界の洗 」が新規追加 - 'the released seal' and 'cleansing of the demon world' released (and AW prince released)
2015/12/17
特定のミッションでの【★4チャレン 】が追加
田園の門,住民救出1,住民救出2,田園の 門防衛戦,住民救出3,火事場泥棒,謎の 物,砦の戦い,残党退治2,炎の竜

YoxalLoyal
03-08-2016, 07:34 AM
Not sure if this has been asked before, but since black units need 3 AW orbs, how are they split between units that require two different orbs like princesses? Can we mix the amount like 2 unicorn knight orbs and 1 rune fencer orb and vice versa? Or do we need 3 of each (which would be a pain to do).

soranokira
03-08-2016, 07:38 AM
Not sure if this has been asked before, but since black units need 3 AW orbs, how are they split between units that require two different orbs like princesses? Can we mix the amount like 2 unicorn knight orbs and 1 rune fencer orb and vice versa? Or do we need 3 of each (which would be a pain to do).

3 of each. and then when you realize skill AW needs another 3 of each...

YoxalLoyal
03-08-2016, 07:49 AM
Aw crud.

Maybe that's why they're putting princesses off for now. Was hoping to AW Sybilla, but I guess I'll have to put that off for months. Aiming to AW'ing Clissa is good enough for now.

Radhulbh
03-08-2016, 07:57 AM
Have you guys any non-Saki CCed ninja? Saki seems to get a whopping -4 UC upon AW. Did they put in that future rebalance cost for all ninjas in there as well?

soranokira
03-08-2016, 08:24 AM
Have you guys any non-Saki CCed ninja? Saki seems to get a whopping -4 UC upon AW. Did they put in that future rebalance cost for all ninjas in there as well?

saki and azami still retaining their old cost. looks like they patched the wrong data for AW saki.

Kamahari Akuma
03-08-2016, 10:06 AM
looks like a bug. NUTAKU BETTER COMPENSATE US FOR THIS.
and the fact that we got no nenya.

Data update to fix the exp error, and we get a SC for our troubles.

Still no Nenya though...

ZeroZet
03-08-2016, 10:16 AM
Data update to fix the exp error, and we get a SC for our troubles.

Still no Nenya though...

No Stamp Card fix either.

These two bugs demand an emergency maintenance (and free copies of Nenya and Mischa and Kagerou distributed as an apology - accept no substitutes!)!

buttlover
03-08-2016, 11:00 AM
dmm gives daily scs for a week to celebrate every milestones (2million users, 1 year old etc)
nutaku gives one sc to apologise for making multiple mistakes =/

I think we got to see the 2 aigis(es) as 2 different games. One is an endless collection game of girls/cg/constant harder boss fights, other is a limited pool of girls/tp/maps that have been around for the entire year. I mean look how easily most guys are clearing the new maps, the moment they are released. And its the biggest patch in forever.

Overdue patches with many mistakes.
Oh i am so bitter, after clearing all the desert maps with bad exp, i thought to myself, is that all was hyping myself up for? Q_Q

Sidenote: I got a feeling most of nutaku staff are girls, hired by the boss to fulfill his harem dream. (judging by the pictures and response, i might be wrong. Probably am.) Looks > Skill? (I am SO banned kappa goodbye cruel world)

Darkhound
03-08-2016, 11:46 AM
Guess I'll start with Clissa then since princesses cannot be AW yet. Btw, is it just me or did anyone else's stamp card reset back to normal card? I was supposed to have a Legend card for March, but it went to Normal card today.

My Stamp Card got back to normal too.... and now I just realized they replaced the completion reward Kagerou from Map "Base Scramble I" with Pirate Verotte :/ Not amusing for me

Askeladd
03-08-2016, 12:06 PM
saki and azami still retaining their old cost. looks like they patched the wrong data for AW saki.

Same for Hina?

http://i.imgur.com/z4aIh3o.png

By the way, I really like Lyla's awakened art:

http://i.imgur.com/80Jijdo.png

YoxalLoyal
03-08-2016, 12:13 PM
My Stamp Card got back to normal too.... and now I just realized they replaced the completion reward Kagerou from Map "Base Scramble I" with Pirate Verotte :/ Not amusing for me

Didn't we get a Verotte in the second desert mission? If we got another one, then I would have preferred a rogue over her. My rogues are going to get eaten up to CC the pirates before they could CC themselves.

Tenhou
03-08-2016, 12:22 PM
Awakened Cellia, might awaken Dahlia too since i have the orbs for it and Clissa is nowhere close to max. Plus i'm leveling Berna and Saki before her anyways.

Can't claim today was the most amazing orbs ever for me, but at least i got Cellia done for that extra %.

Kamahari Akuma
03-08-2016, 12:31 PM
Quick question: Of the Desert story maps, which one would be the best for farming units/exp per charisma spent?

Cus I'm hoping for a lv up soon to try the orb daily again after flopping hard on it.

Askeladd
03-08-2016, 12:33 PM
Quick question: Of the Desert story maps, which one would be the best for farming units/exp per charisma spent?

Cus I'm hoping for a lv up soon to try the orb daily again after flopping hard on it.

The (current) last one. I'm saying this taking into consideration the fact that there should not be bugged bronze soldiers :(

Kamahari Akuma
03-08-2016, 12:44 PM
The (current) last one. I'm saying this taking into consideration the fact that there should not be bugged bronze soldiers :(

When I did a commission just to make sure they aren't bugged at all...well this.

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/03/08/rw26bhxz.jpg

That is ALOT of units per run.

In other news I can confirm they aren't bugged. Lv 20 Leo was giving 165 exp to Claudia and Lv 20 Hashim was giving 195 exp to Claudia, so yes the bug is fixed.

Edit: After getting the 5th SC I needed from the Orb Daily, I put my luck into premium. And I was rewarded graciously.
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/03/08/0YNSJpcq.jpg

ZeroZet
03-08-2016, 12:49 PM
The (current) last one. I'm saying this taking into consideration the fact that there should not be bugged bronze soldiers :( Hashims were fixed by emergency patch.

But, won't Oasis be better for unit levelling, being 10 cha less and still offering Hashims/ 2-2-2?

Askeladd
03-08-2016, 01:47 PM
Hashims were fixed by emergency patch.

But, won't Oasis be better for unit levelling, being 10 cha less and still offering Hashims/ 2-2-2?

Unit levels. If you only need exp and gold Oasis might be a better option. But 6 potential level 20 drops... yep, that's the main reason.

Tenhou
03-08-2016, 01:54 PM
The final map feels like it has some insanely good drop rates compared to the others. Almost every run has been 5 units. I ran a calculation back when i assumed the drop rates were the same and 40cha came out better at gold and prince exp but lost to the 30cha map in unit exp. If this is not just an insane luck streak for me, however, then the 40cha map is better since you get drops more often.

slyyr
03-08-2016, 02:37 PM
ZOMG! They changed Phyllis' artwork!

Is that the same as used on DMM? Could this mean they are removing restrictions on loli content?

Tenhou
03-08-2016, 02:58 PM
They also changed Dahlia and Spica to what they have on DMM :P

And there are no lolis, just fine women of all different sizes and fully legal~~

buttlover
03-08-2016, 03:15 PM
ZOMG! They changed Phyllis' artwork!

Is that the same as used on DMM? Could this mean they are removing restrictions on loli content?

Yes it is, heard nutaku green-lighted not loli, but "chibi" content. (chibi means small or short in japanese) Just waiting approval from the devs. Assuming since it is implemented now, it got passed.

Kamahari Akuma
03-08-2016, 03:24 PM
ZOMG! They changed Phyllis' artwork!

Is that the same as used on DMM? Could this mean they are removing restrictions on loli content?

To be fair, they gave art updates to the units that got them on the JP version. Soma, Elaine (actual greaves and not the weird sock greaves!), Spica (hard to say whether I like angry tsun Spica or flushed dere Spica more) and Lynn (prefer her art from before) got their basic arts changed. Dorca as well but its only Dorca :P

In addition Spica, Lynn and Phyllis got updates to their 'bedroom scenes' as well.

slyyr
03-08-2016, 03:31 PM
Yes it is, heard nutaku green-lighted not loli, but "chibi" content. (chibi means small or short in japanese) Just waiting approval from the devs. Assuming since it is implemented now, it got passed.

Ahhh "chibi". Makes sense.

It means more units for us which is great.

Masterwolf
03-08-2016, 06:46 PM
No Stamp Card fix either.

These two bugs demand an emergency maintenance (and free copies of Nenya and Mischa and Kagerou distributed as an apology - accept no substitutes!)!

I noticed that my stamp card showed normal but it gave me the proper special card reward of 20000g instead of the normal of 5000g that the stamp card was showing.

YoxalLoyal
03-08-2016, 07:16 PM
I noticed that my stamp card showed normal but it gave me the proper special card reward of 20000g instead of the normal of 5000g that the stamp card was showing.

I did hear from someone on Facebook that it was only a graphical error. Maybe it was true after all.

lacus
03-09-2016, 08:21 AM
The new spica is so...chubby :3 I like most of the new art, but not too sure how I feel about spica's new art.

ZeroZet
03-09-2016, 10:30 AM
Lifted from NutakuGames@twitter:

Q: are any of the potential new units on the unapproved list? I'm very excited for AW!
A: Glad to hear it! We haven't had any 'unapproved' units for Aigis in some time now.
Q: So will Nenya and Kagerou be available at some point then? Because they're supposed to be completion rewards.
A: There is nothing stopping the JP dev team from putting those characters in the game.
On the one hand, yay for no banned units!
On the other: le sigh. Deeeeevvvvssss!!!111... The fark u r doin?!1:mad:

Unregistered
03-09-2016, 04:52 PM
So, figured I'd see if anyone else was having this issue, but I've gotten Warlock Gems to drop from Gem: Legendary Pirate EX three times on my mission completion screens, however when I check the awakening menu, it continues to show my count for them as 0. While I admittedly do not plan to awaken any of my mages in the near future (having a number of higher priority units), I would like to be able to stockpile the gems for when I'm eventually ready to do so. Hopefully it's just a graphical bug akin to the Stamp Cards earlier.

Legendary Unregistered
03-09-2016, 05:04 PM
Today's drop is for High Bishop, not Warlock

Unregistered
03-09-2016, 05:07 PM
Today's drop is for High Bishop, not Warlock

Ah right, I'd forgotten they have the same class symbol and as I lack a High Bishop, it was greyed out making it less obvious.

Blaxer
03-09-2016, 05:25 PM
Lifted from NutakuGames@twitter:

On the one hand, yay for no banned units!
On the other: le sigh. Deeeeevvvvssss!!!111... The fark u r doin?!1:mad:

the fark? is it because of farkie? hahahaha

Kamahari Akuma
03-09-2016, 07:37 PM
the fark? is it because of farkie? hahahaha

We must find him so that the Devs will give us the units we deserve!

Specifically Yurina.

Ramazan
03-10-2016, 06:01 AM
I didnt want any update to dahlia she was good but anyway. Her bed scenes changed like others. Also im wondering when the devs implemented the rotation for trading post in dmm aigis? I mean how many patches do we left to get that rotation, since we are seem to get everything which dmm once have? I saw lafate posted a japanese text where all updates can be seen for dmm aigis but forgot where that is.

soranokira
03-10-2016, 06:24 AM
I didnt want any update to dahlia she was good but anyway. Her bed scenes changed like others. Also im wondering when the devs implemented the rotation for trading post in dmm aigis? I mean how many patches do we left to get that rotation, since we are seem to get everything which dmm once have? I saw lafate posted a japanese text where all updates can be seen for dmm aigis but forgot where that is.

we got the TP rotation very very early. TP rotation in nutaku aigis is way overdue, which is why everybody is complaining. DMM aigis began rotating even before AW was introduced.

kayfabe
03-10-2016, 08:45 AM
Lynn (prefer her art from before)

Yeah, Lynn tumbled from one of my favorite art pieces to one of my least favorite.

buttlover
03-10-2016, 09:34 AM
I didnt want any update to dahlia she was good but anyway. Her bed scenes changed like others. Also im wondering when the devs implemented the rotation for trading post in dmm aigis? I mean how many patches do we left to get that rotation, since we are seem to get everything which dmm once have? I saw lafate posted a japanese text where all updates can be seen for dmm aigis but forgot where that is.

We had one rotation very early on during the first month, where chydis was swapped for spica.
cyrus was supposed to be rotated out too during may, they even tweeted about it. But somehow, he is still here.
And from then all, no more rotations. 10 months in, still waiting.

Unregistered
03-10-2016, 12:57 PM
We had one rotation very early on during the first month, where chydis was swapped for spica.
cyrus was supposed to be rotated out too during may, they even tweeted about it. But somehow, he is still here.
And from then all, no more rotations. 10 months in, still waiting.

i actually expect awakening update but no awakening fairy because they forgot trading post existence

but fortunately we are lucky on that...

Blaxer
03-10-2016, 06:51 PM
i actually expect awakening update but no awakening fairy because they forgot trading post existence

but fortunately we are lucky on that...

since they had to modify the trading post i foolishly tought they would do a rotation then but i was wrong... so wrong

buttlover
03-10-2016, 07:36 PM
i actually expect awakening update but no awakening fairy because they forgot trading post existence

but fortunately we are lucky on that...

its the other way round, i expected a tp rotation because they were going to have to add the aw fairy. But they did the bare minimum.

Ramazan
03-11-2016, 05:07 AM
I guess we need more time for everything to settle down like all other games. Personally i dont want rotation begin early cuz im a newbie and need spica, but for oldies they seem to delayed it very long. Though it'd be better to have chydis over spica thats for sure :p

Askeladd
03-11-2016, 06:20 AM
I understand the need for a TP rotation but at least with AW I finally have a use for all my DC. Thanks to some lucky DC drops yesterday I think I'll be able to do another AW next week and Adele seems to be the main option (that 10% HP boost is so enticing).

For the time being:

AW units -> Lyla, Betty, Katie, Gellius
Units to AW with remaining DC -> Spica, Iris (next Monday), Adele (next Thursday? depends on her level)

YoxalLoyal
03-11-2016, 08:18 AM
That Friday AW orb map was pretty tricky to 3*. Had to get my timing right and my eyes in like 3 different places. Got 1 Ninja Master orb, 2 Advance Strategist orb, 1 Warlock orb, and 2 Lode Witch orb from 3/5 runs (the other two I gave up because my formation was messed up after wrong unit placement). How was the rush map for everyone?

soranokira
03-11-2016, 08:56 AM
I guess we need more time for everything to settle down like all other games. Personally i dont want rotation begin early cuz im a newbie and need spica, but for oldies they seem to delayed it very long. Though it'd be better to have chydis over spica thats for sure :p

if they actually start rotating and make it like DMM aigis, sure you might miss spica, but you can at least expect her to return 3 months later. as it is in nutaku aigis, you can't get new units, you can't get old units (only chydis but yeah).

tidus
03-11-2016, 09:24 AM
just to be sure the only way to get a spirit of awak for now is from trade right? i'm regretting getting sakiç_ç

soranokira
03-11-2016, 09:29 AM
just to be sure the only way to get a spirit of awak for now is from trade right? i'm regretting getting sakiç_ç

certain events might give out AW fairies as well, but they are rare naturally.

Unregistered
03-11-2016, 10:14 AM
At what lvl roughly should you be able to do the gem missions? Even if it's just 1 star

ZeroZet
03-11-2016, 10:25 AM
Today's Witch EX map is surprisingly... not that tight on up.
Sure, initial deploy requires mincosted maxlevel bronze soldier, but after that it is a smooth sailing, even with zero other mincosteds.
My strategy: 925


Bashira on O
Spica on P
bronze soldier on D-E (depending on where enemy soldier is at the point) - withdraw him after he finishes his prey.
Wait till archer hits I and drop Prince on it.
Hit Bashira's skill as rogue comes from the east entrance.
Catch mage on K with Kerry.
Betty on H - and withdraw as soon as her Valkyrie is dead.
Fedora on U
Iris on M, Activate Spica's skill when soldiers come from the east entrance.
Bernice on E.
Withdraw Spica when she kills the regular Witch and replace her with Alissa.
Catch Despara with your chosen duelist on B/C (I actually used my Themis for ths, on C. Surprisingly, she held on without any problem!).
Activate Bernice's skill when she is surrounded / when it comes up. Activate Iris's skill as well.
When Despara is gone, withdraw her duelist and drop mage on M.
When two soldier that came from east are shot to death, withdraw Bashira and drop a witch on Q.
Reap the spoils.


Granted, my team is Awakening-ready (max levels, max affection), but still those max-cost golds (and plat archers) can be deployed to deal with threat without much rush. And, as videos prove, you can replace golds (minus Iris) with their silver counterpart without much difficulty.

soranokira
03-11-2016, 11:48 AM
Today's Witch EX map is surprisingly... not that tight on up.
Sure, initial deploy requires mincosted maxlevel bronze soldier, but after that it is a smooth sailing, even with zero other mincosteds.
My strategy: 925


Bashira on O
Spica on P
bronze soldier on D-E (depending on where enemy soldier is at the point) - withdraw him after he finishes his prey.
Wait till archer hits I and drop Prince on it.
Hit Bashira's skill as rogue comes from the east entrance.
Catch mage on K with Kerry.
Betty on H - and withdraw as soon as her Valkyrie is dead.
Fedora on U
Iris on M, Activate Spica's skill when soldiers come from the east entrance.
Bernice on E.
Withdraw Spica when she kills the regular Witch and replace her with Alissa.
Catch Despara with your chosen duelist on B/C (I actually used my Themis for ths, on C. Surprisingly, she held on without any problem!).
Activate Bernice's skill when she is surrounded / when it comes up. Activate Iris's skill as well.
When Despara is gone, withdraw her duelist and drop mage on M.
When two soldier that came from east are shot to death, withdraw Bashira and drop a witch on Q.
Reap the spoils.


Granted, my team is Awakening-ready (max levels, max affection), but still those max-cost golds (and plat archers) can be deployed to deal with threat without much rush. And, as videos prove, you can replace golds (minus Iris) with their silver counterpart without much difficulty.

steps too long. just: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv5QzFwl4Qw
@unregistered: don't bother with AW orb maps until your team is AW-ready (at least 1 of each core class max level & affection). otherwise you're better off getting more cc'd units to clear event maps anyway

ZeroZet
03-11-2016, 12:03 PM
steps too long. just: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv5QzFwl4QwYes, I also want Misha to accompany my sole levelled Valk. Come on, devs!..
And while one don't need last three steps (especially when he has Mage Armor :p ) they do speed up armor killing quite a bit)

Blaxer
03-11-2016, 04:30 PM
First blind run on today's orb mission: OMG that was fun hahahahahahttp://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/03/11/PZHIO.png
My problem was that i didn't bring a good enough tank for Despara hahahahaha
To my second run i go, with Conrad + Sybilla see who's better for the job

I'm enjoying these maps, really needed this update; the game is a somewhat fun again for me at least

Ligoya
03-11-2016, 09:30 PM
The first wave of soldier and thief are the most severe on today orb map, I'm saved because I have mincost thief and monk. I think the key of today orb map are fast deployment.

ZeroZet
03-12-2016, 12:07 AM
The first wave of soldier and thief are the most severe on today orb map, I'm saved because I have mincost thief and monk. I think the key of today orb map are fast deployment.Ya, such maps make you appreciate max-level min-cost bronze soldiers. I even contemplate raising their full lineup just for that...

...Also, how is blazes did you get Thief class (not Rogue, Thief, they are two different kinds of units) here and how did that weak-ass enemy-buffer helped you? I am fairly certain that Thief runs, thanks to his +20% to all enemy stats, would require Awakened team to deal with increased difficulty... On the other hand, increased drop rates would (probably) make in very well worth it.

soranokira
03-12-2016, 12:39 AM
Ya, such maps make you appreciate max-level min-cost bronze soldiers. I even contemplate raising their full lineup just for that...

...Also, how is blazes did you get Thief class (not Rogue, Thief, they are two different kinds of units) here and how did that weak-ass enemy-buffer helped you? I am fairly certain that Thief runs, thanks to his +20% to all enemy stats, would require Awakened team to deal with increased difficulty... On the other hand, increased drop rates would (probably) make in very well worth it.

he probably meant rogues and didnt know that thiefs are another class altogether.

ZeroZet
03-12-2016, 01:17 AM
he probably meant rogues and didnt know that thiefs are another class altogether.Most likely.
It also don't help what we now have Thief Barrad (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Barrad) as a Rogue...

Ligoya
03-12-2016, 05:32 AM
LOL HAHAHAH YEAH, I forgot Thief and Rogue are 2 different class in here.
In my head Thief and Rogue are the same because the "AGI" type class from many game are called those 2, ex. Ragnarok Online and I play those type of game in the past.

So. yeah it's Rogue.

Flan
03-13-2016, 06:19 PM
I didn't read the entire thread, but has it been mentioned that you get Calliope from Fiery Oasis completion and not Nenya?

Eab1990
03-13-2016, 06:41 PM
Yes, and we get a second Verotte instead of Kagerou for Base Struggle I.

Blaxer
03-13-2016, 07:26 PM
I didn't read the entire thread, but has it been mentioned that you get Calliope from Fiery Oasis completion and not Nenya?

welcome to Nutaku Aigis, where Nenya is banned because loli and Kagerou is not here for not good reason

ZeroZet
03-14-2016, 01:13 PM
If anybody was looking for the Nanaly EX gem map's solution with Bashira and Spica, this one I see working pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimj5R3mJ8Y
Just replaced Anya with Deine. And bumped healers down a bit (no platinum). Probably can substitute Deine with Bernice with skill up for Nanaly tanking and Bernice with Leanne for gatekeeping, but have no desire (nor CC'd Leanne, lack of silver HAs be damned) to test.

lolix
03-14-2016, 01:33 PM
If anybody was looking for the Nanaly EX gem map's solution with Bashira and Spica, this one I see working pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimj5R3mJ8Y
Just replaced Anya with Deine. And bumped healers down a bit (no platinum). Probably can substitute Deine with Bernice with skill up for Nanaly tanking and Bernice with Leanne for gatekeeping, but have no desire (nor CC'd Leanne, lack of silver HAs be damned) to test.


And why wouldn't lafate guide video work ? I've done exactly the same , but replaced the archer with spica and bashira , and the silver healers with camilla and iris/fedora. Oh , and the valk with Horace since i lacked a duelist at the time. This map isn't THAT UP heavy , as long as u place eveything at the right time

Flan
03-14-2016, 01:49 PM
welcome to Nutaku Aigis, where Nenya is banned because loli and Kagerou is not here for not good reason

Is that supposed to be "No good reason"? I know why she is banned though they updated Phylis's art so I don't really see the problem, I was just mentioning it since the first post might ought to be updated with the correct information.

kayfabe
03-14-2016, 02:15 PM
If anybody was looking for the Nanaly EX gem map's solution with Bashira and Spica, this one I see working pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimj5R3mJ8Y
Just replaced Anya with Deine. And bumped healers down a bit (no platinum). Probably can substitute Deine with Bernice with skill up for Nanaly tanking and Bernice with Leanne for gatekeeping, but have no desire (nor CC'd Leanne, lack of silver HAs be damned) to test.


As far as I can tell you don't actually need both tanks to have exceptional defense but it really helps if at least one does. For example, I cleared the map with Iris and Fedora as my only healers by using a level 40 Awakened Bernice up top and a maxed Sybilla on the bottom. That's a bit lavish, but it indicates to me that a silver heavy and a third healer should be alright even if it takes longer.

buttlover
03-14-2016, 02:50 PM
As far as I can tell you don't actually need both tanks to have exceptional defense but it really helps if at least one does. For example, I cleared the map with Iris and Fedora as my only healers by using a level 40 Awakened Bernice up top and a maxed Sybilla on the bottom. That's a bit lavish, but it indicates to me that a silver heavy and a third healer should be alright even if it takes longer.

i used bernice and lee-ann to tank, iris and fedora to heal. easy 3 stars. no awakened units used

Blaxer
03-14-2016, 06:05 PM
Lol i start the map with Spica + Soma, they can manage to DPS just well, then prince
place 2 healers on bottom central (alissa + iris)
Then to tank i use Leeanne on top spot, Maribel on bottom spot, replace both archers for a healer and a mage, and add another mage to kill more quickly; i use maribel's skill just as her HP drops around 10%, along with iris + alissa skill
easy map once i figured it out

maribel may me overkill with her skill, a bernice should sufice i think, might try it out myself later today (waiting for CHA to refill)

kayfabe
03-14-2016, 09:36 PM
i used bernice and lee-ann to tank, iris and fedora to heal. easy 3 stars. no awakened units used

Good to know. I strongly suspected two gold healers would be viable with a Leeanne involved. I knew her physical defense would be fine, but she's much less aggressive than Sybilla and lacks MR, so I didn't want to vouch for her and find out later that people struggle with the composition due to skills running out or other such complications.

Ligoya
03-14-2016, 11:17 PM
Why don't you guys just use 3 healer, when Nanaly blocked by the tank you send your last healer, Nanaly won't target it because she's too occupied by the tank. At least that's how I 3 star the map.

nikonana
03-14-2016, 11:38 PM
Same here, I used 3 healers just to play it safe. My Leanne having hard time tanking valk rush with 2 healers alone and my Bernice is not awakened. I underestimated this map once, forgot that witch ripping my bottom tank HP apart and ended up crushing everyone with Nanaly. Never again.

kayfabe
03-15-2016, 11:07 AM
Why don't you guys just use 3 healer, when Nanaly blocked by the tank you send your last healer, Nanaly won't target it because she's too occupied by the tank. At least that's how I 3 star the map.

Because it's actually simpler if you have the units to do it, which is why I had no problem beating the map blind.

switch
03-21-2016, 08:41 AM
im so close to 3 star base scramble 2. thats its annoying me aha either i let my units die and get that extra hit in or take a hit. or i take away the units when close to dying and risk losing the map which i have done once or twice now.


update just 3star'd it with some pure luck minevra insta killing over half the last wave.

lolix
04-04-2016, 05:20 AM
should probably make this one a sticky , so people don't have to search for it everytime they want to look at what drops on what day , or newbies looking for desert map guides...

Tenhou
04-04-2016, 05:42 AM
Agreed. Either that or integrate them into other parts, like the awakening orb thingies into the awakening sticky.

switch
04-04-2016, 06:43 AM
awkward moment when you get all set for the last map.. lvl up claudia and healers.. then forgot to actually put claudia in team lol

Ramazan
04-09-2016, 08:57 AM
awkward moment when you get all set for the last map.. lvl up claudia and healers.. then forgot to actually put claudia in team lol

Yeah that mistake cost me 10 stamina some ays ago :c

Edit: Wrong place.

Blaxer
04-16-2016, 08:55 PM
Just noticed, none of the orb maps includes princess orb in the legend, went to jp wiki and i see something about 3 unicorn knight orbs and 3 battle master orbs, do i need BOTH? (6 orbs total)
Sorry my moon is nowhere near good

Fabloo
04-16-2016, 11:55 PM
You need one unicorn knight orb and one rune fencer orb per tier. So gold is one of each, plat two of each and black three of each. Sapphire uses two of each if we ever get any.

Blaxer
04-17-2016, 12:09 AM
You need one unicorn knight orb and one rune fencer orb per tier. So gold is one of each, plat two of each and black three of each. Sapphire uses two of each if we ever get any.

so it was fencer, not battle master, thanks :D
still 6 orbs sound like a shit ton for 1 unit, well i guess i have plenty of time until eng gets princess' AW

seorizuki
04-17-2016, 02:30 AM
so it was fencer, not battle master, thanks :D
still 6 orbs sound like a shit ton for 1 unit, well i guess i have plenty of time until eng gets princess' AW

well, Anya need unicorn kinght and battlemaster, so you just looking at wrong princess
"special" units need multiple orbs iirc, since they cant be cc'ed

Kamahari Akuma
04-29-2016, 10:09 PM
Danger in the Oasis just...Danger in the Oasis.

That map acts like we are running Shuka's event with how early the lizardmen rush comes. Add on top of that the fact you're strained for UPs the entire way and the desert maps hp reduction gimmick...well in a nutshell its not a fun map to try and 3*. Not. At. ALL.

Ramazan
04-30-2016, 01:13 AM
Where could he get the claire on that oasis map in the guide? I dont remember she has an event.

CharlesRJC
04-30-2016, 05:26 AM
Where could he get the claire on that oasis map in the guide? I dont remember she has an event.

She wasn't introduced due to being loli. She's gold rush and gatcha unit

ZeroZet
04-30-2016, 11:20 AM
That one chinese intern who is in charge of our verson in DMM Aigis Dev Team routinely doesn't get a memo about petite ladies being greenlit, so our Gold Rush has her and another gold archer...

Unregistered
04-30-2016, 11:21 PM
I did it 3 star with Barbara (not AW yet, at CC56) put at Claire position at the beginning, used her skill ASAP and put Khuri CC50 cost 12 at her position, and waited until Barbara was being attack by Lizard, put out Iris AWed and followed by Prince. after that, I followed Nasu's guide expect just used Rouges to block those Mummy King.

Unregistered
05-15-2016, 12:27 PM
An intern is in charge of this game?Just how short-handed Nutaku is if they put an intern in charge of one of the constant-top-10-games of them?And the deal with loli is pretty b******* if you ask...

Tenhou
05-15-2016, 08:04 PM
Someone didn't see the obvious joke that was the chinese intern i guess. And nutaku have greenlit pretty much every character. Aigis is not developed by them (yet) and so they have no real control...

Unregistered
05-15-2016, 11:26 PM
Someone didn't see the obvious joke that was the chinese intern i guess. And nutaku have greenlit pretty much every character. Aigis is not developed by them (yet) and so they have no real control what is put into the game other than what is not allowed to be put into it.
Iirc, I read somewhere that they say Eng Aigis is develope by DMM Aigis staff in their spare time so did Nutaku staffs planned to take over the developement of Eng Aigis?Then again, the loli ban is due to some thing "child-porn" related so even if Nutaku take over developement of Eng Aigis that'll become an entirely different game, right?

switch
05-15-2016, 11:37 PM
Yes nutaku is trying to get more control. It's got nothing to do with child porn that we can't have loli.. We have Aisha and she loli as fuck

ZeroZet
05-16-2016, 11:01 AM
Mind you, loli stuf is not child porn because loil characters are not actual children.
Do care to not mix up this (as in, real world) and other side of the screen as some ignorant dumbfarks do.

YoxalLoyal
05-28-2016, 11:51 PM
At last, I 3* Danger in the Oasis!! It was quite a struggle planning everything out, but with the inclusion of Waltz, my team was set. It was a pretty long battle lolz. Bernice taking on those big mummies like a boss. Btw, Leeanne was only deployed and withdrawn short afterwards for fun. XD Now, bring on the Eastern maps and their cheap tengus.

http://i.imgur.com/IBqC30bl.png

For those who are curious what my team composition and deployment order were:
http://i.imgur.com/Uchd8dj.png

Nanaly (5/5 skill) -> Alissa -> Prince -> Khuri (where Spica is) -> Calliope (where Fedora is) -> Claudia (below Calliope) -> Clissa (to Claudia's right) -> Waltz (beside Khuri) -> Bernice (replaces Claudia) -> withdraw Waltz -> Iris -> Fedora (replaces Calliope) -> Mikoto (replaces Nanaly)

I have no idea why I withdrew Khuri, but I believe everything should be set after Mikoto is placed down. Spica and Rita does not need to be deployed.

Edit: Been a while since I posted here, but my alt. finally got strong enough to beat the last two desert maps. 3* and full drops completed. Danger in the Oasis was a close one though with the mage mummy nearly (Emilia getting to 39 HP left kind of near) killing Emilia and my other units as he walked towards home base. Luckily I had Spica and Pallis on reserve cuz they finished him off. Two Pyramids was crazy easy as usual.