HELP! Advice wanted, Questions within, help with plan, ect. :D

[King Dong]

Well let me start by saying that I have two accounts both of which are F2P, but I farmed accounts to get a good unit, or two, to start. One is my "Black" account which started with an Aisha first roll, and the other is my "2 Plat" account which started with Sasha and Marr. I will simple refer to them as Black or 2 Plat from here on. Below you will find my progress, and future plans for both quest and my army, for each account. I know it is a lot of info, but your help is greatly appreciated. I plan on just updating the OP every so often when I have new questions and what not.

2 Plat Account

Quest Progress

Strategy Lesson Quest: Complete
Urgent Mission Drill: Complete
Daily Mission: Mon. E 3* N 3* H 3* Tues. E 3* N 3* Wed. E 3* N 3* Thurs. E 3* N 3* H 3*(umm Thursdays might be wrong lol)
Challenge Quest: Low Cost Battle, A Gigantic Enemy, and Phalax 2 on farm.
Story Mission: Fiery Oasis on farm.

Quest Plans

Daily Mission: Farm Mon. and Thurs. Skip others in favor of Challenge Quest.
Challenge Quest: Lots of Phalax 2 not looking to push on yet.
Story Mission: Just farm Fiery Oasis.

Army Progress

Starters


http://i.imgur.com/sd3yWhw.png


Army

Prince Level 122
http://i.imgur.com/sd3yWhw.png
http://i.imgur.com/AmPaCdK.png


Army Plans

At this point my priorities change from event to event, but any advice is still welcome!


Black Account

Quest Progress

Strategy Lesson Quest: Complete
Urgent Mission Drill: Complete
Daily Mission: Mon. E 3* N 3* H 3* Tues. E 3* N 3* Wed. E 3* N 3* Thurs. E 3* N 3* H 3*
Challenge Quest: Low Cost Battle, A Gigantic Enemy, and Phalax 2 on farm.
Story Mission: Fiery Oasis on farm

Quest Plans

Daily Mission: Farm Mon. and Thurs. Skip others in favor of Challenge Quest..
Challenge Quest: Lots of Phalax 2 not looking to push on yet.
Story Mission: Just farm Fiery Oasis.

Army Progress

Starters


http://i.imgur.com/aVvH79f.png


Army

Prince level 118
http://i.imgur.com/aVvH79f.png
http://i.imgur.com/yNma2yv.png

Army Plans

At this point my priorities change from event to event, but any advice is still welcome!


General Questions



TL;DR Updates of progress, and plans, for both my accounts. Advice wanted. Will update with new questions instead of making new threads.

Thanks in advance to all who reply!

[Ramazan]

In order to get rid of tutorial screen of fkg account i played it a bit and did 2 shrine summoning because i missed it and didnt do it for a long time. Was expecting 2 silvers then i was gonna delete all the units and go on with my main, then Despara appeared saying: ...You've got nerve summoning me! In that istant, that rubbish account of mine became my alt. Now i'll follow this thread with you and make some suggestions :)


3. Spica seems to be many weeks away with the drop rate from Thursday dailies. Should I be OK with Daniela (L35) as a third archer until then? If not what would be a good solution?

I hope your 2nd archer is rita and didnt missed her event with both of the accounts, even with -1 cr (which i have on alt) she'll be more effective than soma and daniela, this doesnt mean you dont need to use them too ofc, your first archer should be bashira second rita and some/daniela (choose one) be the third.

4. With my stamp card 15 days in I already have 45 SC spent from the two starting rolls and 35 on box expansions, but I won't likely make it back to 30 for the barracks before the month ends. What would you recommend I spend the 5 SC on to hit 50 assuming I should? If not tell me. :P

Well i'd roll another gacha. If not then complete it to 55 and buy deluxe which gives better amounts of sc in the end compared to all others. If i could control my urges i'd never spend sc until i save up 100 and spend them all, which i'll do from now on ( i hope ;_; ) 30 box expansion is already more than enough for a new account, i recommend you wait until you save 100 sc from events.

1. Where does Aisha fit in that CC priority?

Definitely first!!! Until awaken her! (well you didnt had the resources do you :P ) But all priority goes over her. She'll be able to do most of the jobs just by herself.

3. Thoughts about not CCing 3rd healer for a while to keep the UC lower?

I dont think up will be a problem where a 3rd healer needed but you'll gonna cc it anyway so its up to you.

For other questions i dont know much about priest warriors, i'll track the answers with you :)

[Asdf1]

I would give you the same advice others gave me, CC units that will help you clear monday daily H first - katie, leanne, cloris and a healer. NO gold means you can't level your units. Then move on to things that will help you clear thursday daily h -bashira and aisha. then everybody else. You might have noticed, even though people say Aisha is OP, she doesn't really shine until after AW and that is going to take a while.
I don't see the advantage of not CC another healer because of UC, their range and atk is laughable prior to cc. Plus, I don't know if we will get chydis or fedora anytime soon. You can use dorca if you don't like using duplicates but iris is better. In any case you can always use them for AW or as UP and skill fodder once you find a replacement. On a side note make desert oasis your target map, it has better drops. Again, this all a matter of opinion do what will make your gaming experience more fun.:D

[King Dong]

I would give you the same advice others gave me, CC units that will help you clear monday daily H first - katie, leanne, cloris and a healer. NO gold means you can't level your units. Then move on to things that will help you clear thursday daily h -bashira and aisha. then everybody else. You might have noticed, even though people say Aisha is OP, she doesn't really shine until after AW and that is going to take a while.
I don't see the advantage of not CC another healer because of UC, their range and atk is laughable prior to cc. Plus, I don't know if we will get chydis or fedora anytime soon. You can use dorca if you don't like using duplicates but iris is better. In any case you can always use them for AW or as UP and skill fodder once you find a replacement. On a side note make desert oasis your target map, it has better drops. Again, this all a matter of opinion do what will make your gaming experience more fun.:D

Thank you for the advice!

I too was thinking that the second Iris was the best choice for a third healer. With that said I will very likely just CC all three healers the range issue makes a lot of sense.

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I could really use some advice on when to push on to Fiery Oasis. I have watched a bunch of videos, but all the videos seem to be of Princes that are level 150-200+ and that seems like such a long time to wait. I have updated my 2 Plat Army above. Do you think I could handle it with what I have? If not what else will I need?

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.

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Well I updated my OP with my current situation. Just keeping the thread up to date as best as I can. Still looking for advice about advancing to Fiery Oasis. (as well as the other questions in the OP) Until then farming Dailies and commissioning story quest.

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Well, Updated OP, and pushed on to Fiery Oasis on both accounts.

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OP Updated, advice still welcome. Also, any info about how far I could get on the current event would be greatly appreciated.

[King Dong]

Updated OP with current information, and a couple new questions.

[soranokira]

Updated OP with current information, and a couple new questions.

level imelia now followed by aisha probably, for both accounts. also you can just try running subjugations to see where your weak point is. subjugations in dmm are very useful for identifying your team's weak areas.
even the last couple of subjugations in dmm had been focusing on different areas (some require magic dps + lightning rod, some require almost a full melee team, some require careful combination of melee blockers + ranged dps). 5 months in and neither I nor tenhou have full-killed any subjugations so far.

[King Dong]

level imelia now followed by aisha probably, for both accounts. also you can just try running subjugations to see where your weak point is. subjugations in dmm are very useful for identifying your team's weak areas.
even the last couple of subjugations in dmm had been focusing on different areas (some require magic dps + lightning rod, some require almost a full melee team, some require careful combination of melee blockers + ranged dps). 5 months in and neither I nor tenhou have full-killed any subjugations so far.

I will level Imelia on both accounts, but since she isn't used for Spectral March I was thinking about focusing on that first. My Aisha account doesn't have a spare mage to CC her (she is already 50), AND if I want a third healer I won't have a spare healer either. I currently have Iris and Alissa at 50cc40 on that account with a single Iris and Alissa left. If I use Alissa to CC Iris for a third healer I won't have two of the three units I need for Aisha. Thoughts?

[soranokira]

I will level Imelia on both accounts, but since she isn't used for Spectral March I was thinking about focusing on that first. My Aisha account doesn't have a spare mage to CC her (she is already 50), AND if I want a third healer I won't have a spare healer either. I currently have Iris and Alissa at 50cc40 on that account with a single Iris and Alissa left. If I use Alissa to CC Iris for a third healer I won't have two of the three units I need for Aisha. Thoughts?

not sure what you're on about. if you dont have the silvers to cc aisha then wait until you do. you can also consider farming extra gold and rolling 2k summons until you get lucky with one. or rolling one from the sp summons.

also, imelia IS a good anti-lich unit. so are bandits in general.

[King Dong]

not sure what you're on about. if you dont have the silvers to cc aisha then wait until you do. you can also consider farming extra gold and rolling 2k summons until you get lucky with one. or rolling one from the sp summons.

also, imelia IS a good anti-lich unit. so are bandits in general.

What I'm "on about" is whether or not it is worth putting off my third healer to try to rush CCing Aisha? (My thoughts are it's probably NOT a good idea) As for Imelia as a "anti-lich unit I was under the impresssion I needed something with MR to tank them. If that is NOT the case then I'm pretty happy about that, and I will get Imelia to 50cc30 for the Spectral March 500.

Thanks for your time!

[soranokira]

What I'm "on about" is whether or not it is worth putting off my third healer to try to rush CCing Aisha? (My thoughts are it's probably NOT a good idea) As for Imelia as a "anti-lich unit I was under the impresssion I needed something with MR to tank them. If that is NOT the case then I'm pretty happy about that, and I will get Imelia to 50cc30 for the Spectral March 500.

Thanks for your time!

cannot confirm, because you technically needed neither 3rd healer nor Aisha for this subjugation, but I have no idea which will be better for next event. anything goes.

having MR helps with tanking, but it's jackshit if you don't have the hp. Look at Olivie, the black princess. 25 MR, but she can't tank the 3 liches while plat princess Lilia can with her 15 MR. there's also a reason why one method of 3* immortal beast involves dropping and withdrawing silver bandits to soak up the magic dmg in place of your other units, in the event that you cannot outheal the dps. in subjugation, you don't care about units dying, so just dropping bandits in one after another is a good way to hold the liches back until they die from your ranged dps.

Aigis is a game where you need to learn about your units. almost each and every one of them will be useful under different scenarios. only exception is azami and rorone (the former whereby she is saki food, the latter whereby she is the only farm event unit which changes skill on CC, so no point using her)

[King Dong]

cannot confirm, because you technically needed neither 3rd healer nor Aisha for this subjugation, but I have no idea which will be better for next event. anything goes.

having MR helps with tanking, but it's jackshit if you don't have the hp. Look at Olivie, the black princess. 25 MR, but she can't tank the 3 liches while plat princess Lilia can with her 15 MR. there's also a reason why one method of 3* immortal beast involves dropping and withdrawing silver bandits to soak up the magic dmg in place of your other units, in the event that you cannot outheal the dps. in subjugation, you don't care about units dying, so just dropping bandits in one after another is a good way to hold the liches back until they die from your ranged dps.

Aigis is a game where you need to learn about your units. almost each and every one of them will be useful under different scenarios. only exception is azami and rorone (the former whereby she is saki food, the latter whereby she is the only farm event unit which changes skill on CC, so no point using her)

Could you link a video of someone doing the 500 without 3 healers? I haven't seen one yet so that could be interesting.

I'm taking your advice to heart, and leveling Imelia for my next try...and I would be interested to see if I can do 2 healer, 2 mage, and Bashira in the first five ranged slots over the normal 3 healer, mage, and mage/witch/X (X being that witch that heals with skill use that I saw in one video) which I seem to have seen in all the other videos.

Thank you for your time, and your advice, it is much appreciated!

[ZeroZet]

Could you link a video of someone doing the 500 without 3 healers? I haven't seen one yet so that could be interesting.No video, but really, it is a matter of power. My Iris and Alissa under their skills and with support of Shuuka's can keep health of a team good enough while my Mehlis and Thetis melt liches. Barbie-jii and Zola provide additional fire if liches hobble into their range, but before then they just chill out) All CCmax, of course. I think Claudia with her skill could be even better choice as MR tank, but if Thetis works, why bother with replaces?
Ah, I also place Thetis first and so force liches to target different girls instead of ganging up on poor valkyre, so there's also that aspect)

[Unregistered]

Could you link a video of someone doing the 500 without 3 healers? I haven't seen one yet so that could be interesting.

I'm taking your advice to heart, and leveling Imelia for my next try...and I would be interested to see if I can do 2 healer, 2 mage, and Bashira in the first five ranged slots over the normal 3 healer, mage, and mage/witch/X (X being that witch that heals with skill use that I saw in one video) which I seem to have seen in all the other videos.

Thank you for your time, and your advice, it is much appreciated!
IMHO, your black team is good for 500 kill.In the video guide they use 3 healer BUT as long as you place unit on EXCACTLY order( yes because lich target by order>place) so you should make your strat based around that.Note that Elaine has 1313 at 50cc50, so immediately when the 3 Lich appear use you healer skill, and pray she survive.BTW you might want to put Aisha in the nearest to entrance range slot since with her HP, well she might share the dmg as well as dish out dmg to finish those lichs faster.My team is similar to the key kii except I use Olivie as the lightning rod after my Elaine die(i got lucky that 2 lich have die by then and the remaining lich cant 1-hit my Olivie).

[King Dong]

Updated OP.

With this update I did some minor reformatting.

Advice is welcome as always. :cool:

[King Dong]

Well, updated the OP with my current teams and what not. This info is what my teams look like after finishing Spectral March 500/10k on both accounts, and post Dance of Shadows.

I still need like 50 DCs on the Black Account to get Spica, I have the DCs on the 2 Plat account but not the archers to CC. I need a silver heavy to CC the 2nd Leeanne on the two plat account. I'm short 1 silver solider to CC Jerome on the Black Account. Overall I haven't really started thinking about AWs because I still need to CC a few units on both accounts and, as is to be expected, I simply need more silver units. Gonna grind until the next event. Possibly leveling a Vampire Hunter on both accounts in preparation for Base Scrambles.

Any advice is still more then welcome!

[Kyanon]

Khuri is a really good unit, definitly put her on your to-do list, her range doesn't make her useful on all maps, but when you can use her she's awesome. FYI, I just did the map 2 pyramids today, and I had to use 5 physical ranged units, so you'll maybe want to level daniella too.

[Jay Rich]

Well, updated the OP with my current teams and what not. This info is what my teams look like after finishing Spectral March 500/10k on both accounts, and post Dance of Shadows.

I still need like 50 DCs on the Black Account to get Spica, I have the DCs on the 2 Plat account but not the archers to CC. I need a silver heavy to CC the 2nd Leeanne on the two plat account. I'm short 1 silver solider to CC Jerome on the Black Account. Overall I haven't really started thinking about AWs because I still need to CC a few units on both accounts and, as is to be expected, I simply need more silver units. Gonna grind until the next event. Possibly leveling a Vampire Hunter on both accounts in preparation for Base Scrambles.

Any advice is still more then welcome!

I must say your doing very well on both your accounts for the short time you have been playing especially if I remember your a F2P. I only have the one account but I am a P2P (Though I don't by SC a whole lot, just enough to give me some sort of advantage) and I don't have as many CCed units as yourself (Rough count I have 11). Just coming up to the end of my second month now since I started and I can already tell I will struggle with some of the harder events, I was lucky to be able to do this event fully but didn't get great waltz or silver drops from the missions.

I am currently working on ccing Spica as ranged units seem to be the way to go for now and then I will be working on my third healer and then after that maybe one of my vampire hunters as I do seem them get used from time to time.

Being a new player I don't know how good my advise will be but looking at both your plat team and black team you seem to have good tanks, healers and mages so I guess if it was me I would try working on some more ranged dps like trying to get spica (as she is highly recommended by most I have talked to) and or Daniela as a cheap archer.

Even though you may not be able to CC her at this time at least if you lvl her now she will have some small uses and will be ready for when you get the silvers to CC her. But that is only my opinion, best of luck with the team building! :D