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Sasha
05-15-2015, 03:48 AM
This event is really straight forward, farm the maps for a chance for Maribelle to drop. She drops on Maps #2 (http://harem-battle.club/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) , 4, and 5. Map #2 (http://harem-battle.club/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) has a 100% drop rate for your first clear, so even noobs should be able to get a single copy.

Silver Drops this time around are:
Bagan (Bandit)
Cecily (Rogue)
Valerie (Mage) + Soma (Archer)
Calliope (Witch)
Leanne (Heavy Armor)

The important thing to note for Maribelle is that among Heavy Armors, she's a special case. She's a possessor of the rare "Holy Awakening" Skill which doubles both attack and defense at the same time, making it one of the strongest skills in the game. To counter this though, her stats are down right awful for her rarity.

For stat comparison.
At 50CC50 with 100% affection, Leanne has the following stats:
1813 HP, 209 Attack, 426 Defense

At 50CC70 with 100% affection Maribelle has:
2229 HP, 298 Attack, 341 Defense

Maribelle only has +416 HP, +89 Attack, but -85 Defense. Keep in mind that because Heavy Armors have naturally low Attack, very often the enemy will be Defense-Capped against them. So in practice, the +89 Attack will often only transfer out to +9 Damage. An because Heavy Armors can tank 3 enemies at once (4 after Awakening), the -85 Defense will be multiplied to all 3 (4) enemies at once resulting in taking 255 (340) extra damage per set of attacks.

Copy pasted info

Doge
05-15-2015, 12:21 PM
You forgot to paste the other two parts I wrote.

With skills activated is where Maribelle takes the lead however.

Leanne with 5/5 Skill
209 Attack, 682 Defense (most people won't level up her Skill to 5 though, usually 3-4 max)

Maribelle
596 Attack, 682 Defense

Perfectly matched Defense, but Maribelle has 387 more Attack (over double), and at these numbers Maribelle can actually break the threshold for more Attack to matter. Overall, without Skill active you'd probably want Leanne > Mariblle. With Skill active, Maribelle > Leanne.

Stat comparison for Awakening:

50CC60AW80 Bernice
2900 HP, 275 Attack, 595 Defense (+5% AW Passive to Defense)

50CC70AW90 Maribelle
3105 HP, 324 Attack, 420 Defense

Maribelle has +205 HP, +49 Attack, but -175 Defense (205 if you count in Bernice's Awakening Passive). Maribelle still comes out slightly ahead in HP and Attack, but the difference in Defense is even more obvious here.


With Skills active:

Bernice
275 Attack, 1129 Defense

Maribelle
648 Attack, 840 Defense

Maribelle has +373 Attack (also more than double), but still -289 Defense. In this case without Skill, Bernice > Maribelle. With skill active, it depends on what you need. If you actually need to tank something, Bernice >> Maribelle by even further gap. But if you need the Heavy Armors for the sole sake of their Block 3/4, but need to kill things ASAP, Maribelle > Bernice.

Maribelle's Awakening Passive is Shield of Miracles, which gives her a 10% chance to nullify all damage from an attack. Her Awoken Skill changes her skill duration from 40 seconds to 70 seconds, as well as increases the multiplier from 2.0x attack and damage to 2.5x attack and damage; but comes with the downside that you can then only use her skill once per mission.

NutakuDev
05-15-2015, 12:40 PM
Quick preview of one of the upcoming levels; watch out for those ghosts.http://i.imgur.com/Cig9fYr.jpg

Kotono
05-19-2015, 05:26 AM
Went ahead and made a playlist of my first attempts on these maps. I messed up at the start on the last two maps, though. Will have to update it later once I get the 3 stars on them.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG5Zm8YLtnENW38g9k21SXcjuqBHsDGd_

Nyamette
05-19-2015, 08:05 PM
I just have Cloris CC'd. Hope i can get Maribell at the end of the week.

And hope too to get Sybilla or Sherry...

Kotono
05-19-2015, 09:25 PM
What is the average level of your team?
I was just able to 3 star the first map with my 20 and under team. But I think from map 2 onward it would be a bit too hard... maybe.

Edit: Well, I just managed a 1 star skip on it. All that aoe and so many ranged enemies was quite brutal, though. Guess I can try my luck with map 3 now.

schwarzone
05-22-2015, 04:37 AM
Just wanted to throw out there that I got Crave on First Battle (the first mission), not Bagan. Dunno if anything else has changed.

A Time to Screw
05-22-2015, 12:22 PM
Got a perfect maribel. It only took the blood sacrifice of 50 Holy Virgins.

Nyamette
05-23-2015, 08:00 PM
Went ahead and made a playlist of my first attempts on these maps. I messed up at the start on the last two maps, though. Will have to update it later once I get the 3 stars on them.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG5Zm8YLtnENW38g9k21SXcjuqBHsDGd_

Sorry for the late reply.

Finally got her at least with 1 star

I just have Cloris CC'd at lvl 50 and now is 30

Katie lvl 47 awaiting to be 50 and CC too!

My best units are Bashira, Dahlia, Iris and Mehlis <3

Kotono
05-23-2015, 08:52 PM
Alright, well I'm still not able to clear map 3 with my low level account. Those ghost armors have been too much of an issue. They two shot any ranged unit I put out as they pass it and that is leaving me with no mages to kill anything else with. But that account is just starting to get units to level 30.

I guess I can't help much.

Fah
05-27-2015, 12:01 AM
I only managed to get 2 Maribel drops (one of them was the 100% one from Map 4). Oh well, maybe I'll have more luck in the next event.

Do we know what the next event will be or when it starts?

Kotono
05-27-2015, 12:46 AM
The event itself has not been announced. I would imagine it probably begins next Tuesday, though.

ZeroZet
11-14-2016, 03:25 AM
Reviving for revival!)
My own reformat will have to wait till later, sorry...

Ramazan
11-14-2016, 04:48 AM
Her low initial is why shes better than leeanne, dont think aw helps much due to +1 block, anyway i dont have bernice so im getting her.

JSmith12
11-15-2016, 10:38 PM
Using the aigis.gcwiki.info I have manged to make some rough calculations on the value and comparison for Maribel (forgive my spelling)

Now when affection and awakening are not taken into account and we only focus on max level cc, we find that Maribel only has
2329 health, 178 attack, 307 defense

Doing the same with Leanne (she is our base silver for comparison), we have
1970 health, 213 attack, 426 defense

Maribel we see excels in attack but lacks in health and defense which are the most important qualities of heavy armors. Being the tanks of aigis we (or at least me) are more concerned with them taking hits rather than dealing them.

Now we will take skill into account (skills will be assumed to be maxed)

Maribel's doubles both attack and defense so we now have
356 attack, 614 defense

Leanne's skill increases only defense by 60% so we have
213 attack, 681 defense

Again we see that Maribel focus's on attack but Leanne excels in defense which is the main goal of a heavy armor

Now we shall see when affection is taken into account (for the sake of space I will condense the details into one line)

Maribel now has 298 attack, 367 defense - with skill we have 596 attack, 734 defense

Leanne now has 558 defense (attack does not get boosted) - with skill we have 892 defense

As we can see, even without awakening, Leanne is on par with a max level awakened black unit in terms of defense whereas Maribel just barely scratches the surface. In order for Maribel to excel Leanne she would need to be awakened as well and max level which gives us
(with affection and skill)
648 attack, 972 defense

Now Maribel is on par with the max level awakened black units, but is it worth it? In the long run of course but considering the difficulty in maxing her level, skill, affection, and awakening,(and just getting her) it will be a long ways off. For the sheer sake of ease, Leanne is still a better unit to focus on in the short term as she is far easier to max in all areas.

Ericridge
11-15-2016, 11:33 PM
Now Maribel is on par with the max level awakened black units, but is it worth it? In the long run of course but considering the difficulty in maxing her level, skill, affection, and awakening,(and just getting her) it will be a long ways off. For the sheer sake of ease, Leanne is still a better unit to focus on in the short term as she is far easier to max in all areas.

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion as well. I was excited about a possible replacement for my Leeanne but went eh in the end. Only thing Maribel has over Leeanne is that Maribel have more hp than Leeanne. I'm guessing i'll just grab maribel and slowly max her out over time. For those niche situations I guess. And Hentai.

ZeroZet
11-16-2016, 04:31 AM
Finally, guide time. Not like anybody needs a guide for such an easy event...

Good timeofaday, brave Princes! It is that time of the week again, and it is actually a Revival time! Yes, again, devs didn't stop on the first one like with Domination and Gold Rush, didn't even stop for a break, as unbelievable it is, and so we plunge straight ahead to our second revival!
So let's relive the Holy Warrior's Challenge!

Revival runs: 2016-11-15 to 2016-10-22
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/millenniumwaraigis/images/e/e0/Holy_Warrior%27s_Challenge_%28Revival%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161115155030


Rewards
This is a Unit Farm event.
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/millenniumwaraigis/images/a/aa/Holy_Warrior_Maribel.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150513005642

(Re)Introducing the Mujahideen* Holy Warrior Maribel (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Maribel), the original wielder of the Holy Awakening, with all good (double attack and defense for duration!) and bad (mediocre stats out of skill) it brings. For ones only having silvers (or worse yet, Garrett (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Garrett) XD) on Heavy Infantry front, she's definitely a nice addition. And while Bernice (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Bernice) trounces her survivability-vise, Maribel's damage in skill is second only to Deine (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Deine), and sometimes there is a need for a tank that can not only take damage, but dish out their own. (and no Samurai or Mage Armor to fulfill that)
Awakening gives her an ability to randomly take no damage from enemy's attacks, and Skill Awakening ups her skill to 2.5x multiplier for 70 seconds, but makes it one-shot.
Oh, and since she is from the beginning of events, she benefits from having her cost inflated by less. Only 4 CR to go, compared to modern event unit's 5!)

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/millenniumwaraigis/images/f/fb/Maribel_CC_Sprite.png/revision/latest?cb=20160708002452
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/millenniumwaraigis/images/a/af/Maribel_AW_Sprite.png/revision/latest?cb=20160708002517

* Googe Translate. Don't ask. :P


Noted enemies:


┌───────────┬─── ─────────┬────── ┬──────┬──────┬─ ───┬─────┬────── ──────────────┐
│ Name │ Attack type │ HP │ Atk │ Def │ MR │ AS │ Notes │
╞═══════════╪═══ ═════════╪══════ ╪══════╪══════╪═ ═══╪═════╪══════ ══════════════╡
│ Pink HA (http://gyazo.com/1a3e4440467481dfc3d0a4a7b34dcd9f.png) │ Physical │ 1600 │ 450 │ 200 │ 0 │ 150 │ Map 2 / │
│ BallTrower│ Ranged │ 2200 │ 450 │ 200 │ 0 │ 150 │ Map 4 | splash AoE │
│ │ │ 2400 │ 450 │ 200 │ 0 │ 150 │ Map 5 \ │
├───────────┼─── ─────────┼────── ┼──────┼──────┼─ ───┼─────┼────── ──────────────┤
│ Blue (http://gyazo.com/3790b2fe10521bb3f6a98ffe33cff534.png) │ Physical │ 5600 │ 650 │ 400 │ 0 │ 75 │ Map 2 │
│ Heavy │ Melee │ 7700 │ 770 │ 400 │ 0 │ 75 │ Map 4 │
│ Armor │ │ 19200 │ 1092 │ 400 │ 0 │ 75 │ Map 5 │
├───────────┼─── ─────────┼────── ┼──────┼──────┼─ ───┼─────┼────── ──────────────┤
│ Ghost (http://gyazo.com/5642a278fd3a683c5b92d149839c0377.png) │ Physical │ 1200 │ 400 │ 2000 │ 0 │ 70 │ Map 3 (attacks all │
│ Armor │ "Melee" │ 1440 │ 400 │ 2000 │ 0 │ 70 │ Map 5 (whom touches │
└───────────┴─── ─────────┴────── ┴──────┴──────┴─ ───┴─────┴────── ──────────────┘

Stat correction: 0.9 for first maps, 0.8 for second, 1.0 for third, 1.1 for forth, 1.2 for fifth.


Maps

First Battle


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 20 ║ Experience │ 150 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 2 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 750 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 22 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: https://i.gyazo.com/d0c38556f7590a4dc88b9743e39a02fb.jpg
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri56qQWCHUw
Drops: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c7c15afe2edc1e11.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/d8db303277f5fb70.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/cd0983a9e0e1a51f.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/yWh5DU.png


Iron Ball & Armor


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 25 ║ Experience │ 300 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 2 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1125 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 40 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: https://i.gyazo.com/0b2f9696ef998246f2ffc6b432634168.jpg
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZ7TZZSCzw
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/3a8caccda8ba8121.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/beaf141f236ac7ba.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/ab5bade2e5fd1fb0.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/yWh5DU.png


Spirit Armor


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 30 ║ Experience │ 350 ║ Initial UP │ 15 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 3 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1500 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 66 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: Ghost Armors can wander through ranged spots
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/24307ecbe6707b56.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqUVdXKuIbg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8DAxTZkARA
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2b952310af928a2f.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/fbeb04da1658e46e.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/48c47cdf69b17aff.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/yWh5DU.png


Lines of Armor


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 35 ║ Experience │ 400 ║ Initial UP │ 20 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 3 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1875 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 45 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/adf842277dc7b9f0.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5tUGnlkKTI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OEmnMJ3PSc
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/3a8caccda8ba8121.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/974e526f9c3a4500.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2f5e91649c072c40.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/yWh5DU.png


Lines of Armor 2


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 60 ║ Experience │ 500 ║ Initial UP │ 20 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 6 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 4500 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 95 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: Ghost Armors can wander through ranged spots
Map: https://i.gyazo.com/e189afa0be2d4eace47fd3ef69f28a59.jpg
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fIuD5XE91o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKaWG1K3Gu4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eb8LrLLqcs
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/3a8caccda8ba8121.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/898ec972d9d863ff.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2d2f2a676fb9c76b.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/Ax8D7.png




Comments about the event
Seeing as it is a revival of an rather ancient event, maps should pose no real problem for any developed army, not to mention Awakened one :D Newer Princes should prepare for Heavy Armors (so bring magic and / or bandits to the fray) and be mindful of wandering Ghost Armors.
There are some silvers to choose from:

Soldier (Crave (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Crave)) (map 1);
Rogue (Cecily (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Cecily)) (map 2);
Mage (Valerie (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Valerie)) (map 3):
Archer (Soma (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Soma)) (map 3);
Witch (Calliope (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Calliope)) (map 4);
Heavy Infantry (Leeanne (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Leeanne)) (map 5)

Unfortunately, mage+archer's map don't drop Maribel.



New Characters Arriving
Claire and Misha. Sweet merciful Aigis above, MISHA AND CLAIRE! We are finally getting em (some of the) skipped units!!!

Apprentice Knight Misha (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Misha)
http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/b3963726941d7f34.PNG


┌─────┬──────╥── ────┬─────────── ─┐
│ HP │ 1236 ║ Range │ Melee │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ─┤
│ Atk │ 493 ║ Block │ 1 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ─┤
│ Def │ 277 ║ Cost │ 8 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ─┤
│ MR │ 10 ║ │ (CC stats) │
└─────┴──────╨── ────┴─────────── ─┘

Skill: Heal I: Instant; Recover 30% HP; WT: 20; CT: 20
* Our little miss "best non-shrineplat valkyrie" is finally with us!
** Picture is from the later update to silvers that raises theit level cap from CC50 to CC55.


Steel Archer Claire (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Claire)
http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c594b318971975c4.png


┌─────┬──────╥── ────┬─────────── ─┐
│ HP │ 1467 ║ Range │ 260 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ─┤
│ Atk │ 485 ║ Block │ 0 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ─┤
│ Def │ 174 ║ Cost │ 11 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ─┤
│ MR │ 00 ║ │ (AW stats) │
└─────┴──────╨── ────┴─────────── ─┘

Skill: Increase Attack III: 35s; attack 1.8x; AS: 62; WT: 16.7; CT: 25
Awakened Ability: Rapid Fire: 10% chance to fire 3 arrows.
Skill Awakening (NI): Full Auto: 18s; attack 0.9x; raises attack speed but arrow speed same; attacks 3 targets at same time; AS: 27; WT: 23.3; CT: 35
* Our little miss "one of the best gold rarity units", "near-platinum-level Archer" is finally with us!



New Classes Being Introduced
None


All Hail to the Revivals! :cool:

ЗЫ. Links:

MWAWiki (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Holy_Warrior's_Challenge) (EN)
Seesaa (http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%c0%bb%c0%ef%bb%ce%a4%ce%c4%a9%c0%ef) (JP)
GCWiki (http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%C0%BB%C0%EF%BB%CE%A4%CE%C4%A9%C0%EF) (JP)
WikiWiki (JP)

namhoang909
11-16-2016, 11:14 AM
bad drop rate as usual, 3 stars last map after 2nd try( a soldier was killed in first time 1st =>2 star) and still only 1 Maribel

IvanLedah21
11-16-2016, 11:15 AM
please tank iron golem with leanne..k thanks

Last I heard, the golems are only getting tanked by VERY specific units and are better off being killed by range with tokens to slow them down unless you have said units ready to roll. Maribel might qualify, but that's one of those niche situations Ericridge mentioned near the end of his post. In most situations, Leanne is better at the HA's job until Maribel gets to high AW levels.

Ramazan
11-16-2016, 12:23 PM
Here (https://youtu.be/iwLRz8lP2oQ?t=1m10s), maribel could perform even better than bernice thx to her higher skill multiplier. Like i said on my other post, maribel here is better than leeanne too because:

Leeanne's skill has 30 seconds initial, while
Maribel's skill has 12.5, consider maxing Maribel's skill/cost is way easier and cheap than leeanne but thats another matter. I used leeanne on bernices spot but sucked because after lions came her skill still had like 10 seconds to be activated, i couldnt placed her earlier either because of other units. (sophie solved all my problems at next try :))

What im trying to say is most moderate-hard maps have few situations where heavy def needed, i mean you dont need to block bosses 7/24, they just come at mid and at the end of the stage and i think Maribel's 25 sec cooldown is not so bad like leeanne's and 40 sec uptime is even better for that.

Lets say a boss need to tanked longer than 40 seconds where maribel becomes useless, i think Leeanne becomes so too as well. I mean Leeannes skill has even lower uptime which can led her to misery even earlier than maribel.

Also, Maribel is again better for early rushes due to her higher atk than leeanne, cuz she can kill the stuff thx to her high attack and when big guys come she'll already be ready thx to her low initial. I'll just try to get her maxed even while having max aff sophie and leenne, dunno what to do with bernard tho, probably maribel aw fodder :p

IvanLedah21
11-16-2016, 01:55 PM
The thing about Maribel is she isn't a typical HA so it's tricky comparing her to the others. Outside of Garret (and Deine but she's a Black anyways) the rest have a clear, heavy focus on defense while due to her stats and skill she's something of a bulky dps instead. As far as tanking goes, the fact that Maribel is often compared to Leanne, a Silver, instead of Gellius (a plat like her) or even Bernice (gold) says a lot about her full-time tanking ability. Also keeping in mind she'd have to tank an extra enemy if she AWs hurts her in comparisons to Leanne as well.

TLDR: If you have Bernice, Gellius or Deine and a bulky dps like Shizuka, Cornelia or Elva (there are other bulky dps, of course, these are just examples) then you don't really need to worry about getting a good Maribel. If your only tank is Leanne, or you have no bulky dps, she's a solid fill-in for those roles if you have no other options. Be careful if you AW her though.

Ramazan
11-16-2016, 03:13 PM
Alt is min-cost, 4/5
Main is -3, 5/5
Both are opposite :) guess i'll get 2 perfect maribels till event ends.

Kinkoid
11-16-2016, 03:21 PM
Nice event revival !
Thanks for the tips about maxing Meribel... if she's not so tough in defense compared to Bernice, I don't see the point of maxing her... for DPS there are better options

IvanLedah21
11-16-2016, 04:27 PM
Only reason compared to Bernice is if ranged deployment slots are at a premium, it's nice if your blocker can kill stuff solo. Not sure if Bernice is capable of tanking golems with skill up, need some numbers on them, I believe Maribel can with max skill and high AW level (though with 4 blocks, doing so with either is risky, given the golems' apparently massive attack stat it seems you wouldn't want other enemies smacking your blocker as well while healers are trying to heal up from that massive hit).

MalusCorvus
11-16-2016, 06:46 PM
From one event to another, huh?

Meanwhile, Lines of Armor 2 is a long map. By the end I had 418 UP, most I've ever seen myself get, and it would have been more if I'd kept Katie on the field...

Tony
11-16-2016, 10:01 PM
Just mincosted Maribel and normally I'd feel pretty good about that, especially since I don't have another HA besides Leeanne. Then I see this talk about her having low stats for a platinum and that her skill is basically her saving grace, and now I'm all kinds of grumpy since that's only at 2/5. Sigh, at least her final map is easy as heck.

IvanLedah21
11-17-2016, 11:01 AM
your talking about steel golem in magic city not iron.

OK, so Iron Golems are weaker I take it (but still strong enough to one-shot Leanne)?

Regardless, Maribel will be an upgrade to those who only have Leanne, Bernard and/or Garret or lack an off-tank/bulky dps, the others are better in almost every situation that you actually want a durable blocker.

@Tony: Skill isn't too bad to raise, since you can always use Rainbow Spirits later. Min-costing is the important part since you won't get many chances to do it after the event (not many = 0 unless you whale enough to get the Bond Fairies from SL Stamp Card)

saike
11-17-2016, 12:17 PM
which map best to farm her?

Ramazan
11-17-2016, 12:26 PM
which map best to farm her?

Last one, apparently.

JSmith12
11-17-2016, 12:31 PM
Maribel is an odd one when it comes to heavy armors. Generally they excel in health and defense and attack less so, yet Maribel while still excelling in health, lacks in defense and makes up for it in attack. It is also true that in terms of skill activation higher rarity units are always quicker and Maribel is good in that respect.

It comes down to preference I think to some degree. I personally want a heavy armor that takes hits though having one deal them out is good in some situations. Again to reiterate, Maribel is a good choice when she is fully maxed out and awakened. You can even have her skill be under-powered because it always doubles attack and defense.

The key thing that is preventing me from fawning over her (which I would in other situations) is that she is difficult to get a hold of. Last I checked, drop rates for any event farming are rather atrocious. I have been trying to farm for mages in the last event for nearly its entirety and I only got two, and that was for two weeks where this is for one only.

TLDR: Maribel is a good choice of unit. However she would be difficult for some players to max out and that would take time. Early players should rather focus on other units for either defense or attack and have Maribel be a long time project until she is usable.

lolix
11-17-2016, 12:47 PM
got her maxed after ...what ? 2 days since her event started ? without using sc's either....on 2 different accounts. She's not that hard to max. Still don't really like her that much

IvanLedah21
11-17-2016, 02:10 PM
Maribel is an odd one when it comes to heavy armors. Generally they excel in health and defense and attack less so, yet Maribel while still excelling in health, lacks in defense and makes up for it in attack. It is also true that in terms of skill activation higher rarity units are always quicker and Maribel is good in that respect.

It comes down to preference I think to some degree. I personally want a heavy armor that takes hits though having one deal them out is good in some situations. Again to reiterate, Maribel is a good choice when she is fully maxed out and awakened. You can even have her skill be under-powered because it always doubles attack and defense.

The key thing that is preventing me from fawning over her (which I would in other situations) is that she is difficult to get a hold of. Last I checked, drop rates for any event farming are rather atrocious. I have been trying to farm for mages in the last event for nearly its entirety and I only got two, and that was for two weeks where this is for one only.

TLDR: Maribel is a good choice of unit. However she would be difficult for some players to max out and that would take time. Early players should rather focus on other units for either defense or attack and have Maribel be a long time project until she is usable.

Maribel shines most when ranged spots are at a premium, so it's not so easy to back up Bernice/Gellius with ranged damage dealers and still have a healer. Both of those (and Deine obviously, but that's a given) outclass her in doing the HA's job but those two have crappy damage output and thus it's useful to have a blocker who can hit hard. That said, she still needs her skill to do that as well, and if you're saving it for Aura'd wolves or something, her Attack is decent without it but you're better off using an AW samurai instead if you have one. Maribel is for those moments where you need decent damage output without backup while having the survivability to tank a few heavy hitters (ones that will overwhelm healers trying to keep up samurai or advance guards)

This event has pretty standard drop rates AFAIK (50% on last map) so it's not particularly hard to min-cost, 4/5 her (use rainbows for last skill level). 60 Cha/6 Sta isn't as bad as some event maps have been and the maps are rofl-easy unless you're fairly new so farming can begin from day 1 and last through Day 14. Even without SC use (some item farm events come to mind as essentially REQUIRING SC use to max the event unit) it's not unreasonable to think those who want a min-cost, 3/5 or better Maribel by event end will have it (barring downright terrible luck)

lolix
11-17-2016, 02:23 PM
farm events are 1 week events. Star events last 2 weeks

lacus
11-17-2016, 02:55 PM
got her maxed after ...what ? 2 days since her event started ? without using sc's either....on 2 different accounts. She's not that hard to max. Still don't really like her that much

wat? how did you manage that kind of sorcery? >_<

Personally I'm having subpar luck with unit drop, even having spent a few crystals already. Though my CR/SU luck is as strange as usual - my first 3 combines so far got me to 4/5 skill and -1 cost. It never really seems to work the other way around for me.

Edit: Meanwhile on my alt...constant stamina waste, no sc used -> same number of drops. First 3 combines nets 3 CR and 3 SU . . . mmk

Ramazan
11-17-2016, 03:10 PM
Sometimes, i do want HA to kill things, or at least deal some damage while soldier generates UP for rest of the team, and goblins dont need that much of defense but latter ones which can be tankable thx to her awesome multiplier. ( keep repeating myself <_< )

Unregistered
11-17-2016, 08:46 PM
Not having much luck on her. Only got 2 drops of her + the guarantee drop on clearing Map 4 for the first time.

Tony
11-18-2016, 04:00 AM
I swear you cannot get a Skill Level and a Cost Reduction with the same unit combination (sans the first one). I got her reduced all the way down to the limit, but her skill was always stuck at 2/5. Then all of a sudden she starts taking levels and I get to 4/5 after a day or so. Crazy RNG being all troll like.

soranokira
11-18-2016, 07:46 AM
so many posts comparing leeanne and maribel wut.

maribel has AW, leeanne doesnt. that alone pretty much gives maribel > leeanne. doesnt hurt to have 2 blockers as well. max hp is also a thing that factors in regarding a tank's usefulness. a 3k def tank is useless if he only has 1k hp; a barrage of 10% dmg can kill him because healers didnt heal on time.

anyway, been farming maribel nonstop since her revival began. no SCs used, but only managed 7 copies aside from the guaranteed one on map 4, which gave me only cr2 3/5. hopefully i can mincost before event ends, but it does kind of look grim ;/

IvanLedah21
11-18-2016, 12:00 PM
^i didnt understand what you are trying to say in that last statement(u were arguing leanne>maribel(non skill up)if you forgot~)... :v define "almost every other situation" where leanne /any tank outshines mari.
leanne will surely survive anything with 3 healers.so ? is that what you advice people to do ?

Sigh... let me make this clear for you:

1) Maribel is an upgrade to those who only have Leanne, Bernard and/or Garret.

2) "Almost every other situation" had "the others" before it, referring to the other HAs: Bernice, Gellius and Deine. those 3 are simply better blockers in almost every situation you do want 4 blocks.

3) Where did you get "Leanne will surely survive anything with 3 healers"? She's a freaking SILVER! NOBODY is going to expect her to tank "anything" heal support or not.

4) Without skill, Leanne is comparable in durability to Maribel until Maribel hits high AW'd levels.
Hard Numbers for you:
Level 50 pre-CC, 50 affection:
Maribel: HP 1725, Defense 241
Leanne: HP 1545, Defense 356

CCMax, Max Affection
Maribel: HP 2329, Defense 367
Leanne: HP 1931, Defense 507

AW-Max Maribel: HP 3267, Defense 455

Defense Numbers assuming skill use (Leanne Max skill, Maribel's numbers don't change, only duration)
Pre-CC:
Maribel 482 vs. Leanne 569.6
CC:
Maribel 734 vs. Leanne 811.2
MAXED
Maribel 910 vs. Leanne 811.2

Maribel only catches up in Defense DURING SKILL WHILE AW'd. HOWEVER, due to her large HP advantage, and the fact she kills stuff faster, plus faster skill timer and longer duration, her durability becomes superior at late CC levels without REQUIRING AW to be superior in durability.

The entire discussion arises from the fact she needs skill to be clearly superior in durability to a unit two rarity tiers lower than her (though with skill she is about 100 defense under Deine with her AW buff included but with about 600 less HP; cheaper though). We're not saying Leanne is a godly tank because she simply isn't. She IS a good tank for her cost and rarity. Clear?

Blaxer
11-18-2016, 02:59 PM
i'm here just farming slivers since i got her maxed since the original event (2 somas so far...)

Nero010
11-18-2016, 03:37 PM
Sigh... let me make this clear for you:

1) Maribel is an upgrade to those who only have Leanne, Bernard and/or Garret.

2) "Almost every other situation" had "the others" before it, referring to the other HAs: Bernice, Gellius and Deine. those 3 are simply better blockers in almost every situation you do want 4 blocks.

3) Where did you get "Leanne will surely survive anything with 3 healers"? She's a freaking SILVER! NOBODY is going to expect her to tank "anything" heal support or not.

4) Without skill, Leanne is comparable in durability to Maribel until Maribel hits high AW'd levels.
Hard Numbers for you:
Level 50 pre-CC, 50 affection:
Maribel: HP 1725, Defense 241
Leanne: HP 1545, Defense 356

CCMax, Max Affection
Maribel: HP 2329, Defense 367
Leanne: HP 1931, Defense 507

AW-Max Maribel: HP 3267, Defense 455

Defense Numbers assuming skill use (Leanne Max skill, Maribel's numbers don't change, only duration)
Pre-CC:
Maribel 482 vs. Leanne 569.6
CC:
Maribel 734 vs. Leanne 811.2
MAXED
Maribel 910 vs. Leanne 811.2

Maribel only catches up in Defense DURING SKILL WHILE AW'd. HOWEVER, due to her large HP advantage, and the fact she kills stuff faster, plus faster skill timer and longer duration, her durability becomes superior at late CC levels without REQUIRING AW to be superior in durability.

The entire discussion arises from the fact she needs skill to be clearly superior in durability to a unit two rarity tiers lower than her (though with skill she is about 100 defense under Deine with her AW buff included but with about 600 less HP; cheaper though). We're not saying Leanne is a godly tank because she simply isn't. She IS a good tank for her cost and rarity. Clear?

Indeed. And having Bernice(AW) and Leannee(max) (and Bernard(max)) and Shizuka(AW) makes having maribel and needing to AW her obsolete. If one has no AW Samurai Maribel can fill that hole, but either i want to just tank something(Bernice) or i want to have a beefy blocker that kills stuff(Shizuka). If i want a cheap Tank leannee does the job just nearly as well as maribel and not so risky without skill.

Tenhou
11-18-2016, 03:59 PM
To be fair, most maps are not really risky with Maribel. A lot of the time the stronger enemies come in waves so you can just use her skill, kill the dangerous wave, wait for her skill to be up again and then use it on the next dangerous wave. I did this a lot in the past. Heck i used to have Maribel + Bernice and not even level Leanne. Maribel filled in any hole i ever needed an offtank for while Bernice held off the main area. Nowadays that's Deine + Bernice though.

Jay Rich
11-18-2016, 08:26 PM
I have both Bernice and Gellius so I have no real need for Maribel, in saying that I am still aiming to get her perfected and maxed lvl just not Awakened. She is a nice looking unit a nice addition to my hare......I mean army.

In all honesty I do have a great main team but like to use some of my other units from time to time doing other weaker maps or if I am finding I want a challenge on harder maps that my better units can clear I will indeed be using her, not that she is a bad unit just as many have said above why would you use her over some of the more powerful heavies which I have 2 off.

lacus
11-19-2016, 09:36 AM
12 copies combined and still stuck at 2 cr and 4/5 skill. Really? :rolleyes: That desire sensor sure is strong.

Ericridge
11-19-2016, 09:40 AM
12 copies combined and still stuck at 2 cr and 4/5 skill. Really? :rolleyes: That desire sensor sure is strong.

Have you tried changing your avatar to try trick the desire sensor?

lacus
11-19-2016, 09:59 AM
Have you tried changing your avatar to try trick the desire sensor?

lol. But seeing as how powerful its mind reading abilities are, wouldn't that just amplify the effects? :eek:

JSmith12
11-19-2016, 05:18 PM
The entire discussion arises from the fact she needs skill to be clearly superior in durability to a unit two rarity tiers lower than her (though with skill she is about 100 defense under Deine with her AW buff included but with about 600 less HP; cheaper though). We're not saying Leanne is a godly tank because she simply isn't. She IS a good tank for her cost and rarity. Clear?

Thank you. This was my point exactly. In reference to some only having Leanne, I happen to be in that boat along with having Garrett whom I quite dislike.

I just wish I had better luck with shrine summoning to have someone like Deine or Bernice, or maybe even a gold rush like in the DMM version to help in upgrading from silvers. But little steps at a time, for now I'll simply focus on getting everything I have to top form and worry about advancement in units later.

Ericridge
11-19-2016, 06:03 PM
lol. But seeing as how powerful its mind reading abilities are, wouldn't that just amplify the effects? :eek:

Dunno, It might work because I managed to mincost/maxskill my maribel. I just hope reducing it's cost while it isn't CC'd won't come and bite me back. Because I've only reduced the UP cost of my units in their CC'd form so far. I don't know if its okay or not.

So supposedly my Maribel will only cost me 20 UP once she's awakened because I brought her cost down to 16 while she's in base form.

lacus
11-20-2016, 01:35 AM
And I just min-costed and max SU'd her on my alt with 6 combines. :rolleyes:

Ericridge
11-20-2016, 01:53 AM
And I just min-costed and max SU'd her on my alt with 6 combines. :rolleyes:

Well.. Congrats! :)

slyyr
11-20-2016, 05:11 PM
Just finished 3 runs on stam 6 in a row. Zero drops, not even the bronze.

...

I waited 18 hours for this? :(

I would farm archers but I want more Maribels and don't need Soldiers. Heavies are hhandy and my future plans need a lot anyway. Drops have been ok so far but 3 runs in a row of nothing at the top drop % is harsh, especially as I have had many zero drop runs along the way.

Meister
11-20-2016, 09:11 PM
This is the first time I truly perfected a unit from a farming event, I usually miss 1-2 skill levels or 1CR. But I'll still be farming her for Emilia since they have the same skill. :D

2488

Tony
11-21-2016, 12:33 AM
Out of curiosity, would using 4 units at once be any different from combining one at a time?

ZeroZet
11-21-2016, 12:49 AM
No difference other than the cost.

lacus
11-21-2016, 01:12 AM
Well.. Congrats! :)

Haha...thx, now if only I actually cared about my alt and bothered leveling the account.

But I got pretty lucky with the last three combines and got the last two CR. Still at 4/5 skill but I can just use the rainbows I have for that. Now to raise a second copy as I had hoped to do (don't judge xD).

Nero010
11-21-2016, 12:47 PM
I do not have a single maribel copy besides the garantueed one... on the other hand i farmed for mages most the time though.

YoxalLoyal
11-21-2016, 01:00 PM
Used up all my Emilia copies and got Maribel to 4/5. And yesterday, I used up my remaining two copies of Maribel and got that last skill up and -1. Now she's at -2/max cost which is good enough for me. Tried to farm mages all week and only one.

Alt. got Maribel to -3/+3. Stopped farming for her for Monday dailies. Guess she's gonna be my situational tank in this account since I have Deine already.

IvanLedah21
11-21-2016, 03:00 PM
I perfected one Maribel even though I have Deine (CR -2), Gellius (CR-2) and Bernice (min-cost) all AW'd... I must have no life XD

MalusCorvus
11-21-2016, 05:27 PM
I know it's a little late at this point, but I was somewhat curious to see who could accumulate the most Unit Points by the end of the mission... here's my current record. Really curious to see what the max anyone can get is...

JMich
11-22-2016, 12:57 AM
Really curious to see what the max anyone can get is...
Unit points cap at 999. I recall seeing a video that reached said cap, but can't recall what said video was.

Unregistered
11-22-2016, 01:45 AM
Fuck, only got 3 Maribel for this event. RNG Goddess hates me. I hope next event would be merciful.

MalusCorvus
11-22-2016, 02:12 AM
Unit points cap at 999. I recall seeing a video that reached said cap, but can't recall what said video was.

Ah, that makes sense, should have thought of that. Kinda takes the wind out of my curiosity there. Wonder if anyone reached it in this map?

lacus
11-22-2016, 05:51 AM
lol, ended up using 13 rainbows just to get her skill from lv 4 to 5. This rng is killing me >_<

wyldstrykr
11-22-2016, 05:52 AM
it is okay to cost reduce maribel? or platinum units has more uses other than cost reducing/skill upgrade?

Jay Rich
11-22-2016, 06:06 AM
it is okay to cost reduce maribel? or platinum units has more uses other than cost reducing/skill upgrade?

Depends if you want the unit or not. If Maribel is going to be a great unit to your team then yes you are better off using for CR and SU. But if you don't need her you can always use them for xp fodder. It all comes down to what you want, as I don't have a need for her as I have two stronger Heavy Armors but I still use my duplicates to Cost reduce and Skill up and have some left over for other things.

The duplicate units wont offer you anywhere near as much xp as Plat Armors they are just a bit better than using bronze units for upgrades so I find it better to add to your main event unit. Event units uses are limited as they aren't treated like normal units of that tier, you wont get much Rainbow Crystals when discharging them and during double or triple combined xp weeks for gold tier and above units even units don't get this buff so no point keeping them for that.

ZeroZet
11-22-2016, 06:07 AM
While you can use your farmed event unit copies as mini-platinum_armors to level up other units, or even sell them for a mere 3 RC, their primary use IS to cost reduce and skill up your primary copy of an event unit.

Arkinum
11-22-2016, 10:10 AM
Pretty much the same result for me as last event. Very few silvers but managed to get a nearly perfect Maribel, just missing one skill point. I'm not too sour about it since CR is more important.

Good event anyway, as I was too under leveled to get past the second stage first time around.

slyyr
11-23-2016, 02:45 AM
-2/+2 from 8 extra copies. RNG hated me during the event and on the sidelines. That drought of zero drops on 6 stam ended up lasting 5 in a row to finish with my last Maribel then another zero after.

Just as well I have awakened Bernice and Jessica ready to awaken when I have the resources.