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Lafate
05-19-2016, 02:32 AM
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Cyrus
Skill: 100% Increase to AoE Radius for 25s| WT: 25; CT: 50
AW Skill: 100% Increase to Attack and AoE Radius for 30s| Paralyzed after use| WT: 53; CT: 80

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Barbastroff
Skill: 100% Increase to AoE Radius for 25s| WT: 25; CT: 50
AW Skill: 100% Increase to Attack and AoE Radius for 30s| Paralyzed after use| WT: 53; CT: 80

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Mehlis
Skill: 70% Increase to range for 25s| WT: 20; CT: 30
AW Skill: 70% Increase to range for 25s| AoE Radius halved| Attack Speed Increase| WT: 23; CT: 35

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Garania
Skill: 150% Increase to AoE Radius for 30s| WT: 22.5; CT: 45
AW Skill: 50% Increase to attack and 150% increase to AoE Radius for 25s| WT: 27; CT: 55

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Sasha
Skill: 50% Physical evasion chance for allies within range for 30s| WT: 40; CT: 80
AW Skill: 50% Physical evasion chance for allies within range for 30s| Attack Speed Increase| WT: 47; CT: 95

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Odette
Skill: Magic damage taken by allies is reduced by 20% for 30s| WT: 22; CT: 44
AW Skill: 30% Range increase for 40s| Halves magic resistance of all enemies within range| WT: 35; CT: 70

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Mordrebete
Skill: 90% Increase to attack for 45s| WT: 12.5; CT: 25
AW Skill: 100% Increase to attack for 45s| Deals True Damage| Once per battle use| WT: 12; CT: 0 [25 Hidden]

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Ester
Skill: 100% Increase to attack for 30s| Magic resistance of all enemies reduced by 70%| WT: 1; CT: 60
AW Skill: 40% Increase to attack, AoE Radius, and a 20% Increase to range for 150s| Magic resistance of all enemies is halved| WT: 5; CT: 120

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lolix
05-19-2016, 02:47 AM
i actually like the 2 male gold mages. They gain a crapload of dps.

Ramazan
05-19-2016, 02:49 AM
So, i see now why you implied mehlis turns into a cannon. Dont get me wrong but do these skills given to them recently or you were lazy :P

Lafate
05-19-2016, 02:51 AM
i actually like the 2 male gold mages. They gain a crapload of dps.

Mehlis does nearly as much as Desparia apparently.... so she does more... while the male gold mages nuke the entire map D:


So, i see now why you implied mehlis turns into a cannon. Dont get me wrong but do these skills given to them recently or you were lazy :P

recent.

Also this is why I say she is a cannnon
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13230275_10204678518521811_984368944216878344_n.jp g?oh=8a18b064b1ae8647360c23af5f2e74ac&oe=57E14B97

switch
05-19-2016, 02:59 AM
Is the attack speed actually good?

lolix
05-19-2016, 03:01 AM
i guess it depends on how much attack speed she gains , but look at her skill. In terms of pure stats mehlis was already not that far ahead of the 2 other goldies. Now she loses aoe as well , on top of not gaining damage (dunno why i said range..lol). Imagine this : cyrus and barbi hit almost double per hit , in a 4x area (compared to mehlis , because she loses 50% , while the other 2 will hit in a 200% aoe).

It all depends on how fast she gets to attack and how many enemies are pressent. Having a 200% range slow cannon is pointless if there are only 2-3 , whille having a minigun with 50% aoe would be way better.

soranokira
05-19-2016, 06:20 AM
Lafate missed out that cyrus and barbastroff AW skill (both have the same AW skill, just like Cloris and Belinda) also self-paralyzes after skill ends.

Barbastraff (バルバストラフ):
AoE Attack II (範囲攻撃II): (25s; attack AoE 2x; AS: 106; WT: 25; CT: 50)
Secret Art 'Magic Resonance Amplification' (秘術 魔導共鳴増幅): (30s; attack and AoE blast 2x; self: paralysis when skill expires; AS: ; WT: 53; CT: 80)

Cyrus (サイラス):
AoE Attack II (範囲攻撃II): (25s; attack AoE 2x; AS: 81; WT: 25; CT: 50)
Secret Art 'Magic Resonance Amplification' (秘術 魔導共鳴増幅): (30s; attack and AoE blast 2x; self: paralysis when skill expires; AS: ; WT: 53; CT: 80)

Grania (ガラニア):
AoE Attack III (範囲攻撃III): (30s; attack AoE 2.5x; AS: 96; WT: 22.5; CT: 45)
Inferno (インフェルノ): (25s; attack 1.5x; AoE blast 2.5x; AS: ; WT: 27; CT: 55)

Mehlis (メーリス):
Extend Range II (射程強化II): (25s; range 1.7x [408]; AS: 87; WT: 20; CT: 30)
Magic☆Shooter (マジック☆シューター): (25s; range 1.7x [408]; AoE blast halved, but wait period after attack shortened [from 2s to 0.5s]; AS: ; WT: 23; CT: 35)

Mordrebete (モルディベート):
Strengthen Attack IV (攻撃力強化IV): (45s; attack 1.9x; AS: 96; WT: 12.5; CT: 25)
Darkness Sphere (ダークネススフィア): (45s; attack 2x; true damage; once per battle; AS: ; WT: 12; CT: 0 [25 hidden])

Odette (オデット):
Magic Barrier (マジックバリア): (30s; reduces magic damage to all allies by 20%; AS: 96; WT: 22; CT: 44)
Anti-magic Barrier (アンチマジックバリア): (40s; range 1.3x [312]; halves magic resistance of enemies within range; AS: ; WT: 35; CT: 70)

Sasha (サーシャ):
Secret Art of Glamour (幻惑の秘術): (30s; all allies within range gain 50% physical evasion; AS: 82; WT: 40; CT: 80)
Accel Mirage (アクセルミラージュ): (30s; self: attack speed up; gives 50% physical evasion to allies within range; AS: 52; WT: 47; CT: 95)

kayfabe
05-19-2016, 08:21 AM
A half second delay certainly removes any misgivings I had about Mehlis. She should still be OK for mop up duties thanks to the range increase and she looks to be way better against pockets of armor.

soranokira
05-19-2016, 08:28 AM
and then you realize yuyu is actually a cheaper alternative to mehlis pretty much. although with slightly less stats of course.

Talith
05-19-2016, 08:52 AM
Losing the team-wide magic resistance active on Odette kind of kills the point of the unit. D: Especially considering how much of a pain it was to gain 20 ranks in it.

Eab1990
05-19-2016, 08:53 AM
Yuyu's SAW turned out to be good after all? Was annoyed that she lost her identity as a witch thanks to it, but if she's a cheaper mage instead, I guess that's fine.

So Cyrus/Barb turned into Garania, and Garania became Garania 2.0?

lolix
05-19-2016, 09:14 AM
that's pretty decent. Most of us have crap mages outside of odette. Getting more dps out of the goldies is good. actually i dunno how to feel about odette's skill. Guess she improves her own and her allies dps against magic resistant monsters , but at the cost of losing her defensive skill , which was honestly the reason i've finished quite a number of boss battles before i got a decent mr duelist in claudia. I'd rather have 2 odettes

soranokira
05-19-2016, 10:04 AM
Yuyu's SAW turned out to be good after all? Was annoyed that she lost her identity as a witch thanks to it, but if she's a cheaper mage instead, I guess that's fine.

So Cyrus/Barb turned into Garania, and Garania became Garania 2.0?

not really. cyrus/barbie just gained bonus atk multiplier, while garania is also increasing her damage. and yes, I was never against yuyu's SAW. I believed her SAW was decent because +range +attack. obviously she doesnt have mehlis's stats and multipliers and attack speed, but mehlis mincost = 30, vs yuyu's mincost 10. yuyu's increase atk and range multipliers are decent enough (40%) for a 13 cost (full cost) unit in my opinion, even if you have to replace her eventually.


Losing the team-wide magic resistance active on Odette kind of kills the point of the unit. D: Especially considering how much of a pain it was to gain 20 ranks in it.

50% MR reduction is more useful actually, especially for bosses and stuff. works very well with multiple witches/mages/necromancers etc. it doesnt feel much in nutaku at this point because we've not gotten those 1k def 80 MR enemy units though.
http://i.imgur.com/PcYg1wl.png

ZeroZet
05-20-2016, 02:55 AM
So, Magical Girl Lyrical Mehlis becomes pretty much the single-target magic dps, and quite a high one at that?
And then Cyrus would actually be a better compliment to her than Barbie-jii, I guess. She covers long-distance sniping, he covers mob mopping)

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