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Faithful1
06-04-2016, 12:23 PM
Always get stupid 3 Stars on Gacha Premium try .............
I bought like 10 Premium Gacha ..... and ALL I GOT IS 3 STARS BULLSHIT.....
Just so tired of it....

LostRain
06-04-2016, 12:52 PM
If you truly bought 10 with all 3*s... you've got some real shitty luck

Unregistered
06-04-2016, 02:03 PM
I know right ><

Myrdin
06-05-2016, 09:00 AM
well there is a fact that its RNG. I too was pissed that I wasted 100 FGems on Premium. had I waited for the "Limited" pulls with increased rates, I might have been a much happier camper right now.
Dont do premium, save up for better rate Limited pulls.

And yeh its BS, there should be some way to get better pulls without the 3* "trash" (no disrespect towards them 3*). But no game that ever based itself on "RNG character Gacha" where money was involved did this. After all they expect you to buy tons of gold FG and use them for pulls.
If it was "real money" - "Flower gems" conversion (like what Riot does with League of Legends) that would be fine, but I hate when they go for a sick greed cashgrab that is set as "real money for gold, gold for flower gems". Going through one extra game currency diminishes the value of real money by hundreds.... Was it not for this more people would actually spend their cash on the game, I guarantee
(again, look at Riot and how they managed their ingame purchase system, much better, and the customer does not have a feeling of getting scr*wed up the ass).

Tenhou
06-05-2016, 10:05 AM
Limited pulls do not increase your chances to get a certain rarity, only getting a certain girl if you DO get something of that rarity. Chances to get a gold/rainbow remain the same.

Unregistered
06-08-2016, 07:32 PM
yea at least there should be a way to fast farm flowers or a way to trade 20 3 * for a 4* and 20 4* for a 5* and etc

Anon
06-08-2016, 09:38 PM
TECHNICALLY (on average)

Every 3-4 you buy would yield a 4 star.
Every 16-17 yields a 5 star
Every 200 yields a 6 star

So not getting all 3 stars with 10 gacha is a bit unlucky. About the same chance as flipping 3 coins and getting the same side (you did not pick) all 3 times. Looking at it that way it's unlucky but not a super rare occurrence. If you get a 5 star on the other hand, it could be considered lucky, but not really either. 6 star... I don't even need to say.

Unregistered
06-08-2016, 11:46 PM
The plural of anecdote is not data. Every game that has random draws has this exact same story, and the answer is exactly the same for all of them: bad luck is just that...bad luck. Nobody is picking on anyone, there's no conspiracy to withhold good draws from any one person.

The mere existence of people in the game who have drawn 6* girls (of which I am not one, BTW) shows that there's nothing wrong with the gacha draws, they're just not as common as people would like them to be. I've received exactly three 5* girls in the gacha, and one of those was the guaranteed one everyone gets at the beginning so it's really only two. Being on the bad side of the bell curve of gacha draws happens sometimes. Out of the many people who play this game, having it happen repeatedly is also going to happen sometimes. People will post about their exceptionally bad luck, and people will post about their exceptionally good luck, but hardly anybody will post about their average luck (unless it's specifically to prove that average luck happens).

Regarding farming flower gems, however, I am a little concerned that after we use up the big boost given by clearing all the maps we'll have flower gems become too scarce to get a single 10+1 draw on every round of limited gachas they put up, let alone be able to use enough to get what we want from them. The weeks where we get all gems for login rewards will help, but having only event maps to gather new gems is going to make the supply tight. Also, 12-5 might not be the last of the regular campaigns, but we have no confirmation on that as of yet. The only answer to a string of bad luck is more attempts, and they seem to want Nutaku gold to be the only way to break free of it.

ZeroZet
06-09-2016, 01:05 AM
Regarding farming flower gems, however, I am a little concerned that after we use up the big boost given by clearing all the maps we'll have flower gems become too scarce to get a single 10+1 draw on every round of limited gachas they put up, let alone be able to use enough to get what we want from them. The weeks where we get all gems for login rewards will help, but having only event maps to gather new gems is going to make the supply tight. Also, 12-5 might not be the last of the regular campaigns, but we have no confirmation on that as of yet. The only answer to a string of bad luck is more attempts, and they seem to want Nutaku gold to be the only way to break free of it.Heh, of course they are. After all, how do you expect them to fund the continuous operation of this freemium game if not by profits from selling the premium currency and its benefits?
It is not like you need 6* girls to complete maps, and not like real money being only source of gems anyway.


And eventually there should be a promotion allowing one to straight up buy any one girl for collection, and another one giving one random 6* as one-year continuous login bonus, if Nutaku is to follow the formula of original, so you might want to not spend till then.)

thewind32
06-09-2016, 01:12 AM
and they seem to want Nutaku gold to be the only way to break free of it.

Agreed with your post, as for the last line, well someone has to pay the bills. Regardless, rare girls are not required to clear maps, so it's more of a collector's itch.


giving one random 6* as one-year continuous login bonus

I would be pissed as hell if I missed 1 day for some reason, not that I don't welcome more ways to get free stuff :D

Psycojj
06-09-2016, 01:24 AM
TECHNICALLY (on average)

Every 3-4 you buy would yield a 4 star.
Every 16-17 yields a 5 star
Every 200 yields a 6 star

So not getting all 3 stars with 10 gacha is a bit unlucky. About the same chance as flipping 3 coins and getting the same side (you did not pick) all 3 times. Looking at it that way it's unlucky but not a super rare occurrence. If you get a 5 star on the other hand, it could be considered lucky, but not really either. 6 star... I don't even need to say.

To expand on this info and really emphasize the rip-off factor:

Every 3-4 you buy would yield a 4 star. = $15-$20
Every 16-17 yields a 5 star = $80-$85
Every 200 yields a 6 star = $1,000

Ridiculous when you compare this to the price of just buying an h-game (or 10).

ZeroZet
06-09-2016, 01:59 AM
To expand on this info and really emphasize the rip-off factor:

Every 3-4 you buy would yield a 4 star. = $15-$20
Every 16-17 yields a 5 star = $80-$85
Every 200 yields a 6 star = $1,000

Ridiculous when you compare this to the price of just buying an h-game (or 10).
Or, y'know' just farm all required gems in-game. For free. Shockingly cheap, isn't it? :p

Miu
06-09-2016, 02:00 AM
Wow so those people who rolled 2 6* in a few tries did win the lottery. And if you must have 6*s much cheaper to buy an account :rolleyes:

Ikki
06-09-2016, 02:04 AM
Wow so those people who rolled 2 6* in a few tries did win the lottery. And if you must have 6*s much cheaper to buy an account :rolleyes:

i spent 100 flower gems during the limited 2 slice gacha and got baccara alpinia and camellia, i thought that the chances were increased a lot, since after that i saw a lot of people with 6*, but it was just my imagination, rng godess likes me :D

Miu
06-09-2016, 02:09 AM
Lol your signature will make a lot of people angry :D

Ikki
06-09-2016, 02:13 AM
Lol your signature will make a lot of people angry :D

LoL ikr, but im omw to be a good helper, i need 1 more gold red dragon to evolve baccara, taking her to 60 was a real pain in the ass

Unregistered
06-09-2016, 02:14 AM
Lol your signature will make a lot of people angry :D

Yeah, get those ladies trained, whydon'tcha? Two 6*s in a team with less than 60K strength makes me angry.

Ikki
06-09-2016, 02:17 AM
Yeah, get those ladies trained, whydon'tcha? Two 6*s in a team with less than 60K strength makes me angry.

im saving manyus to boost baccara from 50 to 60, i started playing just when the moonvine event started so, not a lot of time to farm, but im getting there :D

Rupturez
06-09-2016, 04:03 AM
im saving manyus to boost baccara from 50 to 60, i started playing just when the moonvine event started so, not a lot of time to farm, but im getting there :D

I should add you asap since your helper squad will be insanely strong when its fully trained :D

MiqDoloran
06-09-2016, 06:30 PM
You should revive the salt thread with that signature of yours. fuck

Anon~
06-10-2016, 01:42 AM
i spent 100 flower gems during the limited 2 slice gacha and got baccara alpinia and camellia, i thought that the chances were increased a lot, since after that i saw a lot of people with 6*, but it was just my imagination, rng godess likes me :D

I like how when people say they saw lot of people with 6*... I have to ask. Did you see everyone who rolled? Or 'lot of people' only include those who get a 6* and brags about it. If the 0.5% holds true, every time someone gets a 6*, about 199 other people fails to do so. But in terms of psychology, I won't doubt that more people would make a post about it if they get a 6* than if not, because it's much more rare. In this case, if you see lots of people saying they have a 6*, imagine how much people who didn't post that did not get one... Just because forum has a dozen people saying they got 6*, and only one or two saying they got bad rolls... does not really make 0.5% any higher than 0.5%. Of course unless it truly isn't 0.5% then that's a different matter.

WittyAnon
06-10-2016, 01:50 AM
Or, y'know' just farm all required gems in-game. For free. Shockingly cheap, isn't it? :p

And that's why this game isn't really pay2win but pay4convenience. Only rich people will pay aiming to roll 6*. Casuals may pay hoping for a 6*. Shockingly cheap? I have my doubts. Depends how you look at it; time is money. Especially since after you complete most of the maps, you instantly net over 100 gem depending how fast you complete the campaign & single time rewards. After that, however, you slowly get some for new events and attendance; maybe only 20 or so a month (compared to like 100 in about a week when you barely start off). But of course if you know more ways to 'farm' gems... like say 1000 of them (which average a single 6*) in a month or two, please do tell. I don't see the 'farm' aspect of it once the farm in the beginning has been harvested once.

Ancarius
06-10-2016, 02:32 AM
It is not Pay4Convenience because you get slower Flower Gems, the more you advance in the game. It is just that 6* is overkill for nothing, 4* and the Event Girls bring you through 12-5, which is the hardest map we currently have.

Unregistered
06-10-2016, 11:42 PM
I like how when people say they saw lot of people with 6*... I have to ask. Did you see everyone who rolled? Or 'lot of people' only include those who get a 6* and brags about it. If the 0.5% holds true, every time someone gets a 6*, about 199 other people fails to do so. But in terms of psychology, I won't doubt that more people would make a post about it if they get a 6* than if not, because it's much more rare. In this case, if you see lots of people saying they have a 6*, imagine how much people who didn't post that did not get one... Just because forum has a dozen people saying they got 6*, and only one or two saying they got bad rolls... does not really make 0.5% any higher than 0.5%. Of course unless it truly isn't 0.5% then that's a different matter.

I sure haven't seen a lot of people with 6* girls...I have a full roster of active allies and only ONE has a single 6*. I highly doubt any of my allies are sandbagging their helper squads by hiding 6*s anywhere else.

sniddy
06-10-2016, 11:53 PM
Good 4* get you events get you 5*

Little luck gets you the odd 5* from Gacha

Once in a blue moon you get 6*

Do you need the 5/6* no....want yes, collect yes, but need no

MiqDoloran
06-11-2016, 09:43 AM
5* are actually needed. 6* are likely going to be helpful later down the road.

sniddy
06-11-2016, 10:04 AM
Yes but 4*'s can get you event 5*

The extras from any Gacha is extra

EDIT - I'm now getting to the point that 3*s Im keeping all have level 5 skills - any point in not selling extra 3*s now?

zathosi
06-11-2016, 11:07 AM
Yes but 4*'s can get you event 5*

The extras from any Gacha is extra

EDIT - I'm now getting to the point that 3*s Im keeping all have level 5 skills - any point in not selling extra 3*s now?

Some 4* shares the same skill as 3*; example with Ground strike skill, which Dandelion (4*) and Olive Aurantiacus (3*) have in common. Just double check for these characters before selling all your 3*.

sniddy
06-11-2016, 11:23 AM
thanks I'll keep an eye out

JessMini
06-11-2016, 03:16 PM
Once in a blue moon you get 6*

I'm on day 34 (I think) and I've yet to recieve my first 6*.. although I've never really Gacha'd hoping for one. I just thought of 6* girls to be something I'd get "way later" in the game, but now I'm starting to feel like it's about time for my first..!

Come to think of it, I only have 4x 5* girls.. I've been so proud of my progress, leveling everyone up, evolving them, and it just hit me that they're all 4*.. They're all replacable. x.x

Peach692
06-11-2016, 04:33 PM
I'm on day 34 (I think) and I've yet to recieve my first 6*.. although I've never really Gacha'd hoping for one. I just thought of 6* girls to be something I'd get "way later" in the game, but now I'm starting to feel like it's about time for my first..!


Sorry, but get in line. I'm roughly on day 60 (maybe a couple days shorter than that) and still no 6* to be seen. Getting a 6* is a matter of luck rather than time. You might be a lucky ass bastard and get one on your first roll or you might just as well not ever get one. I've made my peace with it now. I'm fine building an army of 5* :) I won't ever count on getting any 6*

Ancarius
06-11-2016, 04:42 PM
I'm on day 34 (I think) and I've yet to recieve my first 6*.. although I've never really Gacha'd hoping for one. I just thought of 6* girls to be something I'd get "way later" in the game, but now I'm starting to feel like it's about time for my first..!

Come to think of it, I only have 4x 5* girls.. I've been so proud of my progress, leveling everyone up, evolving them, and it just hit me that they're all 4*.. They're all replacable. x.x

Replacing every 4* is way further into the current lifecycle and is also totally unnecessary. 4* and Event 5* suffices for verything in the game right now.

Ikki
06-11-2016, 04:42 PM
I'm on day 34 (I think) and I've yet to recieve my first 6*.. although I've never really Gacha'd hoping for one. I just thought of 6* girls to be something I'd get "way later" in the game, but now I'm starting to feel like it's about time for my first..!


As the guy above said, its not a matter of time, its just being lucky or not, i have allies way above me in lvl (im only 50) and they haven´t seen a single 6* in all their 10+1 rolls.

Rupturez
06-11-2016, 05:02 PM
Sorry, but get in line. I'm roughly on day 60 (maybe a couple days shorter than that) and still no 6* to be seen. Getting a 6* is a matter of luck rather than time. You might be a lucky ass bastard and get one on your first roll or you might just as well not ever get one. I've made my peace with it now. I'm fine building an army of 5* :) I won't ever count on getting any 6*

I agree, I'm also counting on never rolling a rainbow and only am planning ahead which golds I want to roll on. Not going to waste my time looking at rainbows.

Even rolling a gold is already a tall task for me, 5 10+1 pulls gave me 1 gold.

Pimers
06-11-2016, 05:31 PM
Does I have to consider myself lucky when I have used only one time a 10+1 Roll and get many silvers + one gold and when I said at my friend to do a single roll I got Cattleya (rainbow) ??? x)

Stuff
06-12-2016, 07:01 PM
I'm on day 34 (I think) and I've yet to recieve my first 6*.. but now I'm starting to feel like it's about time for my first..!

HA! Yeah, like everyone else said..don't hold your breath. I've been playing since Day 1 (I think we're on Day 62 right now? 7th Login Bonus Page just started for me last night. And I'm Lv62.) My best girls are seven 5*, 3 of whom were received via Event. My first one was a "GUARANTEED 5*" draw offered back in Week 1, 2nd was from the second Guaranteed 5*, and the other 2 were from Premium Gacha; my last pull in the current one yielded the combo of Chocolate Cosmos and Rose. So yeah, no 6* action here either.

Thats not to say it can't happen. Just takes one spin. (And thats how casinos stay in business; on the arms of slot machines and hope.)

Zenithale
06-12-2016, 07:08 PM
I also play since Day 1 and have only 5 5*: the 3 from Event and the 2 from Guaranted 5* Gatchas. :(

Ikki
06-12-2016, 07:41 PM
I also play since Day 1 and have only 5 5*: the 3 from Event and the 2 from Guaranted 5* Gatchas. :(

why 2 guaranteed 5* gachas? isnt it only 1? the one when you just start? or they give you another guarenteed for some login streak bonus or something

Zenithale
06-12-2016, 07:59 PM
If my memory serves me right, at the beginning of the second week a second guaranteed 5* gacha was available during 1 week.

Ikki
06-12-2016, 08:06 PM
If my memory serves me right, at the beginning of the second week a second guaranteed 5* gacha was available during 1 week.

Ah that explains it, thats a shame, i´m late i guess lol

Haters
06-12-2016, 08:15 PM
^ look at your signature, I can see you got 2 rainbows and 1 gold ( don't count the gold from events yet ), and you said thats a shame because you missed one guaranteed 5* gacha ? I'm kinda jealous about 2 rainbows than a guaranteed 5* you know :(

Ancarius
06-12-2016, 11:05 PM
Did 2 Single Pulls on Limited 1 and got Paulia, which got her skill up and Cyani Cornflower, which is the only 4* i miss. I am more than happy :D

Peach692
06-14-2016, 03:38 PM
Did 2 Single Pulls on Limited 1 and got Paulia, which got her skill up and Cyani Cornflower, which is the only 4* i miss. I am more than happy :D

Good job! You really did well. Whenever I try a single pull I always get Phala.... it's a curse -.-

Discoceris
06-16-2016, 01:30 AM
I like how when people say they saw lot of people with 6*... I have to ask. Did you see everyone who rolled? Or 'lot of people' only include those who get a 6* and brags about it. If the 0.5% holds true, every time someone gets a 6*, about 199 other people fails to do so. But in terms of psychology, I won't doubt that more people would make a post about it if they get a 6* than if not, because it's much more rare. In this case, if you see lots of people saying they have a 6*, imagine how much people who didn't post that did not get one... Just because forum has a dozen people saying they got 6*, and only one or two saying they got bad rolls... does not really make 0.5% any higher than 0.5%. Of course unless it truly isn't 0.5% then that's a different matter.

Amen brother. This is the same kind of psychology you can apply to anything in life. They have a term for this, "vocal minority". On the internet, it's easy to amplify the volume of your voice/message. One person can create 50 forum accounts and then post stuff over and over and it makes like there's a mob of people with the same ideology or agenda. I see this all the time on Reddit, Disqus-related message threads, and YT channels.

MiqDoloran
06-16-2016, 06:19 PM
YT channels.

That stuff gives you cancer.

fghk0
06-18-2016, 07:05 PM
why 2 guaranteed 5* gachas? isnt it only 1? the one when you just start? or they give you another guarenteed for some login streak bonus or something


Indeed there is a second 5 * guarantee ... a few days before the start of the game inside:D. On the Japanese version of the movie is also 5 * guarantee ... there seems to reward new activities ... (maybe.?!:○

Zerana
06-21-2016, 03:59 PM
Finally, after spending about 200,000 normal gotcha seeds I finally got a silver girl...in today's free draw:

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/06/21/WMSDjUNLd3.jpg

I'm very happy about it, but I just wish she wasn't another magic type. Got a ton of those that still need leveling. Off to the grind factory for me.

Discoceris
06-21-2016, 11:50 PM
Finally, after spending about 200,000 normal gotcha seeds I finally got a silver girl...in today's free draw:

I'm very happy about it, but I just wish she wasn't another magic type. Got a ton of those that still need leveling. Off to the grind factory for me.

Yeah, not to look the gift horse in the mouth, but I have the exact same problem. Half of my gold/silver units are purples, and I have the worst luck concerning purple dragons and manyus. It sucks ...

Ancarius
06-22-2016, 12:01 AM
Yep, also having bad luck with Purple Manyuu and i will have with Tachi a full Golden Magic Line. Currently getting showered with Blue ones. :7
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160622/o67hcsdc.png (http://www.directupload.net)
BTW, not my real Set. Just the characters i will use in the end.

Myrdin
06-22-2016, 01:04 PM
It would be nice if they did an event pull with guaranteed 5* (but make it persist over few days, as sometimes you just dont notice on the first time). That would be nice.

Ancarius
06-22-2016, 03:42 PM
Well you had one for the tutorial and there was one in the beginning, as an appology for all the crashes and lost stamina.

Unregistered
06-23-2016, 04:00 PM
Can confirm, have done 7 10+1 rolls with nothing but 3* and about 4 total 4*.

zathosi
06-24-2016, 12:03 PM
Can confirm, have done 7 10+1 rolls with nothing but 3* and about 4 total 4*.

Yeah, the odds are against us with the gacha mechanics, 93,5% of the time, you will get a 3* or 4* girls. But with all the events we have, and their girls that come with them, we will have in maybe 4-5 months full teams of 5*. These girls having all the equipment slots unlocked and skill fully upgraded, will be generally more powerful that the 5* from gacha, with their lvl 1 skill and 1 equipment slot.

Just roll on their gacha with free gems, from events map and daily login card. Most of the time, it will be a complete waste and garbage, but once in a while, you will be lucky.

DarkForest
06-25-2016, 01:56 AM
I get my 6 star mei at my first 10+1 roll(5 silver 5 bronze don't have gold), and get 4 or 5 silver from normal gecha, currently is 26th day i play the game.

Unregistered
06-26-2016, 12:15 PM
Still got only 3 stars guys, not joking, am I damned ? =O

Zandel
06-26-2016, 10:33 PM
Did my 4th (maybe 5th) 10+1 roll with the current new girls cause I needed a slice type and got Water Lilly. Probably the worst of the 5*+ slice types because of her low HP but still happy to get my first 5* that was not a guarantee.

Unregistered
06-27-2016, 06:32 AM
Did my 4th (maybe 5th) 10+1 roll with the current new girls cause I needed a slice type and got Water Lilly. Probably the worst of the 5*+ slice types because of her low HP but still happy to get my first 5* that was not a guarantee.

I got Gerbera from this round of the gacha and while I'm happy to have her, she's not that much better in the power department...at lvl 46 she barely makes my last team in the auto-sort. We'll see how she fares once I get her affection maxed (it's at 52% now) but I'd still expect a 5* girl to be better than unevolved 4*s that are about half her level. Maybe I'm just spoiled by how good Orchid Wydler is (and how good I've made her with ampys).

- - - Updated - - -

Do you people favor priority gacha or "normal" premium gacha? (sorry if this has already been asked)

Ancarius
06-27-2016, 06:54 AM
If there is something in the Spotlight that is interessting then go with the limited ones, if not and you don't want to wait, then go with the regular one.

Unregistered
06-27-2016, 12:07 PM
Well, for me at least, I'm still at the point where a new 5* would be preferable to a duplicate 5*, so I favor the priority gacha for the higher chance of that happening even if there's nothing particularly interesting in there. Later on once I have a good amount of 5*s, I'll probably decide based on what's actually in the priority gacha.

Lied
06-27-2016, 01:01 PM
I avoid the vanilla normal gacha because of the special gachas they sometimes have that are just normal gacha + bonus (like the bloom dragon one), but mainly just pull when the gacha has increased odds for a girl you want. I've learned to not expect anything from the premium gacha, so I just pull it when I have extra gems and the featured girls or bonus items catch my eye.

Unregistered
06-30-2016, 05:38 PM
The title says it ....
I finally got something else than a 3star Flower girl, a 5star one..
I'm quite glad on it ... finally...

Daibouken
02-02-2017, 07:56 PM
If you've played the Nutaku version long enough to know the UI, try dmm.com or dmm.co.jp(R18)
If you can't understand the japanese too well just go to flowerknight.wikia.com.
You get a HUGE BOOST just from playing for 5 minutes lol :P

This is also the story of how I went from noob to pro in a few days lol.


My ID is 756819272 if you want to find me

Discoceris
02-02-2017, 11:08 PM
You should revive the salt thread with that signature of yours. fuck

LOL ... it reminded me of someone I ran into a while back on an alt account and was running this team below level 10 (their main level was below 10)

http://i.imgur.com/RtuISO7.jpg

Unregistered
02-02-2017, 11:16 PM
i bet that's a nutaku sock puppet account. seriously.

steele1743
02-03-2017, 08:45 AM
I find this thread very interesting as perception is, as always, limited to experience. So I have this one ally who I use when they are available to beat the 80 stamina maps and they have a full 6* Team - Cherry, Dogwood, Mei Plumblossom, Kerria, and Daisy all evolved and lvl 51 per my highest lvl, I don't know what they actually are. I just assumed this was how it's done (as in you're supposed to build up 6* teams...note the plural...but reading this thread makes me feel like I hit the ally jackpot since this team crushes every map I throw them at and apparently it's not common to have that many 6*s.

Unrelated is St. Paulia...am I missing something about her? I see that character name come up a lot in discussion and I have her but I haven't leveled her and I feel like I should....

maotd
02-03-2017, 09:03 AM
St Paulia is just the best 4* imho. At least, Total Power wise. Mine is lvl60 (with a few HP ampies) and she is better than most of my lvl70 5*.
Since the first day she is one of my best units, despite she don't have a reliable ability.

Distortedrealms
02-03-2017, 04:09 PM
In other freemium games I have no luck at all, with FKG I have unnatural luck with rolls. Its a strange trade off.

kringley
02-03-2017, 05:21 PM
St Paulia is just the best 4* imho. At least, Total Power wise. Mine is lvl60 (with a few HP ampies) and she is better than most of my lvl70 5*.
Since the first day she is one of my best units, despite she don't have a reliable ability.

IDK, she has a lot of health but attack and defense aren't much to write home about and she's quite slow.
For example I'm comparing her to Holly - very similar maxed HP and attack, Holly has much higher defense, a much better attack skill with higher proc rate, and much better abilities, much higher speed, and is likely to be fully equipped because event girl.
Game is easy enough, if you really like her then go for it but I just think health heavy units tend to have TP numbers that overemphasize their usefulness (which is why I don't think TP is a super useful stat to go by).

Unregistered
09-15-2017, 02:23 AM
some say nutaku is greedy, no, we are just unlucky...

Unregistered
09-15-2017, 04:40 AM
Man. Way to necropost.

wolf
09-15-2017, 08:54 AM
Man. Way to necropost.

lol i was reading the 1st post and i was like wait this sounds familiar then i notice the dates by the end of page 1 xD