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soranokira
07-14-2016, 11:05 AM
so this game recently got a PC version, and since I was going to guide Tenhou through things I decided to make a thread here with screenshot references. <br />
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Link:...

Tenhou
07-14-2016, 02:18 PM
Some nice info to get anyone started. It is a rather straightforward game once you get certain things out of the way and i really like the game.

Zerana
07-14-2016, 02:24 PM
wow, that game looks like a lot of fun.

Arkinum
07-14-2016, 05:31 PM
Is it normal to feel depressed when you see all the games over at DMM compared to Nutaku...... -_-

Tenhou
07-14-2016, 07:10 PM
Is it normal to feel depressed when you see all the games over at DMM compared to Nutaku...... -_-

Perfectly normal. A lot of people seem to suffer from this syndrome.

soranokira
07-15-2016, 09:04 AM
Little update: I'm requesting screenshots for the unit classes so I can translate their abilities. a sample has already been posted. there's unlikely to be any further updates aside from the unit class ones. not sure what else i want to add in. any questions can be posted here.

Filiam has also found a jpwiki, link is in 1st post. you can also google tl the wiki to get a rough understanding of the stuff in game.

Marcus
07-16-2016, 06:16 PM
I started playing this as well I got http://mononohu.gamerch.com/SSR%E5%8A%A0%E8%97%A4%E6%B8%85%E6%AD%A3, http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E9%95%B7%E9%87%8E%E6%A5%AD%E6%AD%A3 and http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E3%83%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%95%E3%8 3%AD%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B9 from free rolls I'm not sure but it sounds like google translate says they need troops to do double attacks not sure which units those are. the UR skills all do nothing unless I have nuns so thats like my primary goal besides getting strong enough to beat the event map and earn w/e I can get from it

anyone just starting this you get a certain amount of exp tickets from quest/ login bonus and some you can buy in the event shop for gold then after that the only way to lvl up your units is raising the dojo building or 道場 is its japanese name I think its unlocked by raising the main building to 15 and basically you keep lvling it up as much as you can and you put girls in it overnight to train because it takes 8 hours and they can get 20k, upwards of 40k exp if you get the building high enough.

you can only put 1 girl in unless you use 300 of the real money currency to open another slot

soranokira
07-16-2016, 08:54 PM
actually, you can combine girls in the combining general and units list section up in the 1st post. exp fodder are obtained primarily through story map clears (from the supply units usually). dojo is meant for additional leveling, not the primary method of leveling.
I'll translate their abilities later, but for now, damn you for getting Louis Frois (the UR). I want her D: (on top of Kenshin-chan)

edit: SSR加藤清正 (Kato Kiyomasa)
Ability 1: When leading a single unit, attacks 2 targets on odd turns
Abillty 2: Lifesteal 20%, and randomly does 15~90% bonus dmg
Ability 3: Break armor 10%, and increases by an additional 1% for every point of wisdom that is higher than the target, up to 30% (this can be interpreted as either 10% chance to ignore enemy armor, or 100% chance to ignore 10% of the enemy def)

SSR 長野業正 (Nagano Wazamasa)
Ability 1: When leading a cavalry unit, 50% chance to increase attacked target by 1
Ability 2: Reflect 10% damage, 20% if it's aoe
Ability 3: Increases damage inflicted on archer units by 100%, and by a further 10% if there are any surviving Uesugi army units

UR ルイス・フロイス (Louis Frois)
Ability 1: When leading miko unit, damage increases by 15% and 50% chance to mark an enemy (marked enemy deals half damage on next turn)
Ability 2: When leading miko unit, damage increases by 35%
Ability 3: When leading miko unit, increases lifesteal by 5% every turn, up to 50%

Marcus
07-17-2016, 05:22 AM
bah was gonna rant about how difficult this game is far but it keeps erasing my typing before I post. basically the most exp I can get is about 75k in 8 hours if I put 2 exp tickets in it to hold the exp. takes all day to find small exp tickets from normal maps and I imagine the daily is useless since all of them so far just butcher my team.

Are you sure Louis Frois skills are for mikos or do you mean the entire miko class tree ? cause google translate said it was nuns which is the highest thing in that tree

soranokira
07-17-2016, 08:00 AM
bah was gonna rant about how difficult this game is far but it keeps erasing my typing before I post. basically the most exp I can get is about 75k in 8 hours if I put 2 exp tickets in it to hold the exp. takes all day to find small exp tickets from normal maps and I imagine the daily is useless since all of them so far just butcher my team.

Are you sure Louis Frois skills are for mikos or do you mean the entire miko class tree ? cause google translate said it was nuns which is the highest thing in that tree

you can get more exp tickets from the higher level map supply units. each higher level map supply unit gives 1 more small exp ticket, to the point that i'm currently getting 7 from one run at the lvl 35+ map's supply unit. and when I do the lower tiers as well, i can get like 40 a day.

sorry, you're right, it's specifically nuns. I just threw them together when I translated since most of the others usually include the entire section of the class tree (primarily split between japanese/western of each unit class)

also, the problem with the dojo is that units you throw inside cannot be used in your attack/defense teams, hence I use it to level the high-tier units I'm going to use while using the already leveled units which are currently making up my core team.

Marcus
07-17-2016, 12:34 PM
also, the problem with the dojo is that units you throw inside cannot be used in your attack/defense teams, hence I use it to level the high-tier units I'm going to use while using the already leveled units which are currently making up my core team.

no you dont have to put your units that you use in the dojo you can put exp tickets in to use as vessels to hold the exp. exp tickets can be leveled up also

Tenhou
07-17-2016, 04:53 PM
Wait, really?! I gotta try that. Thanks for the info.

Marcus
07-17-2016, 05:42 PM
wow these event /daily maps after jumping in lvls from and average of 10 to about 17 with the help of exp tickets from the event shop (seems the buy limit refreshes everyday) I can now clear half of the event maps. problem is they all seem to attack first so I guess the increase in levels gave me enough hp to kill them before they killed me.

kind of an annoying mechanism giving all the daily/event maps a speed advantage like that anyone know if I use the speed increasing formations will that let me attack first usually? Idk if the maps just automatically are always faster the normal mission dont seem to have things that always outspeed me.

supposedly Louis frois is a rare drop from this event but I dont see any maps with her listed as a drop yet event ends on the 19th 14:00 japan time so tomorrow night for me

Edit: nvm the daily maps they're still useless first exp daily map today I tried today still butchered me as usual eventhough I can do some of the event maps at least but it looks like no reward until the last map maybe

soranokira
07-18-2016, 06:17 AM
no you dont have to put your units that you use in the dojo you can put exp tickets in to use as vessels to hold the exp. exp tickets can be leveled up also

they can, but i'm not too sure if it's worth it and i don't intend to do the calculations to make sure it's 100% carry forward

edit: nvm, you're right, I just checked their tips section.

edit2: so i found this:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/5043482b11ff49e58f2217477ddd1290.png

rough translation of the 1st part basically equates to throwing a 'big' exp ticket into the dojo and general A into the dojo.
after 2.5h, exp ticket at lvl 14, general A at lvl 9.
combine exp ticket with general B gives lvl 11 general B.
combine exp ticket (lv 1) with general A gives lvl 12 general A.

therefore by conclusion, placing general A is more efficient. however, taking into consideration needing to take general out of formation, leveling exp tickets is a viable strategy.
合成時の獲得経験値=基本経験値+ 得経験値の63.9%
Combined exp = base exp + 63.9% of obtained exp

Marcus
07-18-2016, 05:46 PM
ah damn 40% loss pretty much I guess one should put in tickets when your awake then put in actual units when you sleep

how do I complete these quest by the way since I think they will be gone along with the event in today's maintenance 1532

soranokira
07-18-2016, 09:13 PM
the bottom 2 won't be, it's spending premium gold. the 1st one i'm not too sure.

Marcus
07-19-2016, 05:10 PM
sora are you sure kiyomasa kato needs intelligence for armor break? because Im a bit confused as to why the kanji 智力 is used here but the building the raises intelligence uses 知力 and so does this girls skill http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E6%AF%9B%E5%88%A9%E5%85%83%E5%B0%B1 google translates 智力 into chiryoku no idea what that means but its the 3rd stat on warlords but translates 知力 into intelligence. another translator says both of them mean wisdom,intelligence, etc.

I just want to be sure Im raising the right stat and will probably raise Motonari Mori also if they do both actually need the same stat and the kanji difference doesn't mean anything. kind of mixed about katos armor break if its chance based and not a 10% reduction at all times it wont be good unless either the battle last alot of turns for her to attack, I raise her intelligence enough to make it 30-40% , or its applied like a status and makes all the other units do extra damage to the armor broken target.

Edit: just figured out how to do the new event seems like most of the events require you to take items they give you out of the mail and use this white scroll here they mail you 20 of the brown scrolls each day which is the required item to enter the event 1542 this is what the event page will look like once youve bought and used the white scroll
1543

soranokira
07-20-2016, 03:42 AM
both of that kanji mean the same.
I haven't tested out that ability and didnt bother in-depth searching as to the mechanics for it. I am just assuming that the likelihood of reducing enemy def by 10% all the time is higher and have been assuming that, because I've never seen severe damage fluctuations when using the same unit with that 10% armor break ability. That said, I'm pretty sure the armor break only applies to her attack.

and yes, you're right about needing to buy that map. my 'guide' is most likely staying this way for now (meaning not much updates/add-ons), since I'm mostly on discord playing this with a couple of friends. That said, there's a difference in server between those who started on phone and those who started post-PC release version.

anyway, guess i might as well add discord link to opening post~

Marcus
07-20-2016, 03:24 PM
Im not sure if its life steal or armor break but sometimes kato does about 400 other times 600 or 700. I dont see her draining health or healing though just she strangely seems to keep fighting even though all her soldiers are dead and shes at 0 hp

soranokira
07-28-2016, 09:12 AM
Im not sure if its life steal or armor break but sometimes kato does about 400 other times 600 or 700. I dont see her draining health or healing though just she strangely seems to keep fighting even though all her soldiers are dead and shes at 0 hp

i think it's likely due to her 2nd ability (lifesteal). you should test out other units with armor break skill against the same enemy.
as for the 0 hp and keep fighting thing, it might be a glitch. she is relatively new in the SSR list after all.

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Factions and naming issues:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/1570_wiki.png

Map during Honnoji incident:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Sengoku_period_1582.png/591px-Sengoku_period_1582.png
Light green = Ryuuzouji
Purple (left) = Ōtomo
Blue (left) = Shimazu
Green (middle-left) = Chosokabe
Yellow = Mouri
Red = Oda
Cyan = Tokugawa Ieyasu
Green (right) = Hojo
Blue (right) = Uesugi
Purple (right) = Date

Source (and more): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_daimyo_from_the_Sengoku_period


Ōtomo faction:
- Ōtomo Sōrin (大友 宗麟, also known as Fujiwara no Yoshishige (藤原 義鎮) and Ōtomo Yoshishige (大友 義鎮))
- Tachibana Muneshige (立花宗茂, alternatively called Tachibana Munetora (立花宗虎 or 立花統虎))
- Tachibana Dōsetsu (立花 道雪, also known as Oni Dosetsu, associated with weapons Chidori and Raikiri)
- Tachibana Ginchiyo (立花 誾千代, daughter of Dosetsu, married Muneshige who carried on Dosetsu's family line)

Ryūzōji faction:
- Ryūzōji Takanobu (龍造寺 隆信)
- Arima Harunobu (有馬 晴信, under Ryuzoji but betrayed Ryuzoji)
- Ryūzōji Masaie (龍造寺 ???, son of Takanobu)
- Nabeshima Naoshige (鍋島 直茂)
- 円城寺信胤
- 百武賢兼 (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/SSR%E7%99%BE%E6%AD%A6%E8%B3%A2%E5%85%BC)

Shimazu faction:
- Kawakami Tadakata

Ōmura faction: (first to convert to christianity)
- Ōmura Sumitada (大村 純忠, known as "Dom Bartolomeu" and the lord who opened the port of Nagasaki to foreign trade)
- Ōmura Yoshiaki (大村 喜前, son of Sumitada)

Misc and unsorted:
- Luís Fróis (1532 – 8 July 1597) was a Portuguese missionary
- Konishi Yukinaga (小西 行長, a Roman Catholic Christian under Toyotomi Hideyoshi)
- Katō Kiyomasa (加藤 清正, a general under Toyotomi who led forces during the Invasion of Korea)
- Takayama Ukon (高山右近, also Dom Justo Takayama, a Roman Catholic Christian)


---actually scratch that, I think I'm too lazy to do any further. Couldnt find the Ryuuzouji 4 generals ;/---

Note: due to succession issues, many generals under formerly under Oda went under Toyotomi, and under Tokugawa eventually.

Oda Faction:
- Shibata Katsuie (柴田 勝家, Oni Shibata)
- Maeda Toshiie (前田 利家)
- Akechi Mitsuhide (Famed for his betrayal of Oda Nobunaga, his full name was Akechi Jūbei Minamoto-no-Mitsuhide (明智 十兵衛 源の光秀))
- Niwa Nagahide (丹羽 長秀)
- Takigawa Kazumasu (滝川 一益)
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Toyotomi faction:
- Ishida Mitsunari (石田 三成, famed as the one who supported Toyotomi Hideyoshi's child Hideyori in the East-West conflict at the battle of Sekigahara which led to formation of the Tokugawa Shogunate)


Ashikaga Shogunate:
- Hosokawa Fujitaka (細川 藤孝, who later on served Oda)

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I hereby dub these 4, the ultimate 4 armors:
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaW1hZ2UucHJudHNjci5jb20vaW1hZ2 UvZTlhZjNlNjI3ZDExNGY0ZTg2NDkwY2E3Y2I3OTkzZTYucG5n In0.iNzKFNFmJBzLryUi5tx-UJQ_h6s.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E8%A1%8C%E4%BA%BA%E5%8C%85%E3%81%BF)
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaW1hZ2UucHJudHNjci5jb20vaW1hZ2 UvYTUxNzhiOWMzODdlNDRmZjg5YzU4NzNjMzQ1NTgyNDgucG5n In0.XSw-Hl8wEkpMGbMS_JuO8QocXOY.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E7%87%95%E5%B0%BE%E5%BD%A2%E5%85%9C)
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaW1hZ2UucHJudHNjci5jb20vaW1hZ2 UvNzY0Yjk3NTA0NDQzNGM5NWI0YzFhY2JmNWNmNzBhMTAucG5n In0.9KUOKw06FWaV9vwbkuWRNr9FJl0.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E5%8D%97%E8%9B%AE%E5%85%B7%E8%B6%B3%E3%83%BB%E6%A 5%B5)
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaW1hZ2UucHJudHNjci5jb20vaW1hZ2 UvNWM0Y2EyZTlhMWRlNDJiNGFhYmFlMzk1NDBlNGYxOGUucG5n In0.xpE-FqwvSuNmiIMyTKZsWXWzczQ.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E8%97%8D%E8%91%A6%E5%A8%81%E8%82%A9%E8%B5%A4%E9%8 E%A7%E3%83%BB%E5%A6%96)

Blazehoof
07-29-2016, 12:34 PM
Hi,

Could you please help me decipher one of the star requirements?

1595

I figured out most of the others, but I can't make heads or tails of this...

Ty

soranokira
07-30-2016, 11:15 AM
Hi,

Could you please help me decipher one of the star requirements?

1595

I figured out most of the others, but I can't make heads or tails of this...

Ty

you need to deploy this unit in your formation: http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E7%A8%B2%E8%91%89%E4%B8%80%E9%89%84
unfortunately, this is one of the most fucked up star requirements early on (I myself didnt get her until after couple of weeks of gameplay), but luckily you only see like 1 or 2 of this one early on, and none after. I ended up keeping 1 copy of her either way

Blazehoof
07-30-2016, 01:49 PM
Thank you!
I was trying a translator and some common sense, but that brought me nothing. I figured it was the name of something, but I couldn't figure out what.
Ty again :P

soranokira
07-30-2016, 11:58 PM
Best weapon catalog:
http://image.prntscr.com/image/15e7e15040024e6e8cb1bd8c183ef8dc.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E6%95%B0%E7%8F%A0%E4%B8%B8%E6%81%92%E6%AC%A1%E3%8 3%BB%E5%A6%96)
http://image.prntscr.com/image/c0260ced467b4adb8846b8457ace4eb0.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E7%8D%85%E5%AD%90%E7%8E%8B)
http://image.prntscr.com/image/7537443378b84242840dbe6975948562.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E5%91%AA%E3%83%BB%E7%84%A1%E5%90%8D%E5%89%A3)
http://image.prntscr.com/image/a7b73c28e4e542739b83c5395a81b5b1.png (http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E5%8D%97%E8%9B%AE%E5%BC%8F%E9%8A%83%E3%83%BB%E6%A 5%B5)

the level 55 gun has much lower base attack, but comes with the effect 'ignore 20% of target's def'. I'm not sure how well it compares to http://mononohu.gamerch.com/%E7%9C%9F%E3%83%BB%E9%B6%B4%E5%A7%AB%E4%B8%80%E6%9 6%87%E5%AD%97 's 20% pierce armor effect, since my understanding was they had the same effect despite different wording. This 2nd weapon might be better than the lvl 55 gun depending on how the actual mechanics work and how much 20 general power affects battles though.

Unregistered
08-03-2016, 07:22 AM
Hi,

Could you please help me decipher one of the star requirements?

1595

I figured out most of the others, but I can't make heads or tails of this...

Ty

Use the UC unit of that name. Keep her and level her up cos she's appear quite often as star requirement and you will need 2 UC also

Unregistered
04-01-2017, 04:39 PM
so since it's coming to Nutaku soon, Is the game fun?
It kinda reminds me of the "Battle of three kingdom" an old PS games.

Tenhou
04-03-2017, 02:55 PM
Depends on what type of games you like. Personally i liked it for a while but the reset timer for resources is rather low so if you want to play games 1-2 times a day, this is not the game for you.

The battles are also not something you decide on who fights who. You decide a formation and highest speed unit goes first and attacks randomly with some restrictions.

Skulkraken
04-04-2017, 04:29 AM
...So, who's going to be handling dev team duties for this game? Will it be another Superhippo clusterfuck?

Myrdin
04-04-2017, 09:13 AM
Game doesnt seem half bad, but the art style feels uninspiring and bland. I suppose I`ll be skipping this one, unless ofc it makes its way over to Nutaku. Seeing as bunch of game are getting dropped by Nutaku it would be nice to find a replacement.
Though then again, I suppose we can hardly expect for a newly released game to be ported to Nutaku any time soon.

Seoyuki
04-04-2017, 09:48 AM
Game doesnt seem half bad, but the art style feels uninspiring and bland. I suppose I`ll be skipping this one, unless ofc it makes its way over to Nutaku. Seeing as bunch of game are getting dropped by Nutaku it would be nice to find a replacement.
Though then again, I suppose we can hardly expect for a newly released game to be ported to Nutaku any time soon.

https://www.nutaku.net/games/mononofu/

???

There's literally 3 games under "Coming Soon" on the main page. Their Twitter has two other games announced that aren't under coming soon, and their blog post about all the game closures specifically says that Nutaku itself is doing great and they'll be announcing even more upcoming games.

Myrdin
04-04-2017, 12:28 PM
Wow... I have no idea how I missed that one. Thanks for the heads up man.

Unregistered
04-05-2017, 10:49 AM
Depends on what type of games you like. Personally i liked it for a while but the reset timer for resources is rather low so if you want to play games 1-2 times a day, this is not the game for you.

The battles are also not something you decide on who fights who. You decide a formation and highest speed unit goes first and attacks randomly with some restrictions.

Ah, I see so this is kinda heavy on the "Grind" sides then?
already had my hands full with just Kamihime and GBF, I guess I'll be skiping this one.
Thanks for the info.

IcedCreme
04-12-2017, 04:57 AM
Here's mine

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Enjoy!

Marinatal
04-12-2017, 05:53 AM
Used your invite code, thanks. Here's mine:

I1X9V0B6QJAK

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04-12-2017, 06:18 AM
mine is

F1L5T2J9YKIR

miki1103
04-12-2017, 06:30 AM
Used one of your invite code :)

mine:V1Q9R4H8SALU

barbatos
04-12-2017, 07:40 AM
mine is

O7Z1I4BWHGAM

Aidoru
04-12-2017, 07:41 AM
Income all the code spamming.

Game seems really mediocre so far. Hopefully it improves as you get further.

CM85K
04-12-2017, 09:34 AM
Here's my code

M3S9L1K3TGWD

Skulkraken
04-12-2017, 09:45 AM
Here's my code

M3S9L1K3TGWD

Used your invite code.

Here's mine:

D3X2W6V8HTUI

Zerana
04-12-2017, 10:42 AM
Used your invite code.

Here's mine:

D3X2W6V8HTUI

I used yours. :D

Here is mine:

N4W7T2V2FJOQ

BarbatosZaku
04-12-2017, 10:47 AM
Wait... to do normal gatcha is necesary use real money?

Skulkraken
04-12-2017, 11:01 AM
Wait... to do normal gatcha is necesary use real money?

No, the normal gacha can be rolled using the tokens you earn through gameplay.

...My first 5x pull on the normal gacha's gold summon drew an SSR - Date Masamune. o_O

Zanza313
04-12-2017, 11:07 AM
My invitation code

H4B6C1W5QMKV

Keyen
04-12-2017, 12:11 PM
Used the last one. Mine:
B5O8U0T3KVNE

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Ok, time for retarded questions:
-No energy? Just this coin/troops timer?
-The roll after each mission doesn't seem to correspond at the moment when I click. Did I miss something obvious?

Unregistered
04-12-2017, 12:41 PM
Pretty sure the reward after battle is all random.


Also here is my invite code. :D

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Pretty sure the reward after battle is all random.


Also here is my invite code. :D

Q5W4G3C4VFRI

Draega20
04-12-2017, 01:11 PM
My invite code is X6F7S0Q7OMPC. if any1 wants to use it.

Unregistered
04-12-2017, 01:59 PM
Used the last one. Mine:
B5O8U0T3KVNE

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Ok, time for retarded questions:
-No energy? Just this coin/troops timer?
-The roll after each mission doesn't seem to correspond at the moment when I click. Did I miss something obvious?

energy is those rice ball thing which regen every 5 min



do use my code : A2R2I3THPWKL

ChelSea
04-12-2017, 02:30 PM
4319
4320
what need for 2*?

Unregistered
04-12-2017, 03:20 PM
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Shalthen
04-12-2017, 03:51 PM
Used the last one posted

Mine: H8N0S0C9FQTV

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04-12-2017, 04:19 PM
heres my invite code here
D8Q3L1B4UEZK

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04-12-2017, 04:24 PM
Invite code
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Unregistered
04-12-2017, 04:29 PM
Invite Code:
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Unregstered
04-12-2017, 04:55 PM
My Invite Code:

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Unregistered
04-12-2017, 06:51 PM
mine
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buddy22
04-12-2017, 07:40 PM
any idea how to do the holiday stuff? Easter event?

BarbatosZaku
04-12-2017, 08:04 PM
I cant use the starter dungeon scroll and easter dungeon.

soranokira
04-12-2017, 09:25 PM
4319
4320
what need for 2*?

use the specified unit. if you dont have her, you'll have to roll gacha until you get a copy of her.

BarbatosZaku
04-12-2017, 09:32 PM
to level a girl you need use another girl but the only form to obtain princess is gatcha, which need coupon. How i can obtain news coupons?

Unregistered
04-12-2017, 09:36 PM
code
M8A4Y4D8OZCK

Eliont
04-12-2017, 11:21 PM
How to use Copper, Silver, Platinum tickets?
What are "duel" that mentioned on them?

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http://puu.sh/viDne/5ee2ad8e3d.jpg
So to unlock second scene we need limit-max unit?

tester
04-12-2017, 11:25 PM
[QUOTE=Eliont;69311]How to use Copper, Silver, Platinum tickets?
What are "duel" that mentioned on them?

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I don't see the "duel" mentioned on them, but those are summon/gacha tickets. hit summon in the top left corner, then the "normal" tab. it should show your gold tickets, and let you draw 1 or 5 generals. scroll down for silver and copper. If you don't have tickets, I am assuming you can spend Kobans for gold draws, hearts for silver draws, and cash for copper draws

Nexiv
04-12-2017, 11:26 PM
My invite code:T1S7U1O0L7WQ

Aidoru
04-13-2017, 12:12 AM
Game feels pretty generous so far, despite me not knowing what I'm doing half the time.

Can anyone tell me how much a fully evolved (all stars filled) UC/C/R unit compares to a no evolved SR/SSR/UR? Seems that I can still learn all the skills despite no evolves but is the lack of stats from no evolving gonna be a game changer?? Or do SR/SSR/UR's with no evolves outweigh even a maxed R?

Eliont
04-13-2017, 01:14 AM
Well, bronze gacha activated.
It seems that game only partially ready and they fixing bugs on the fly according to reports sent.

Kurzathan
04-13-2017, 01:21 AM
Here's my invite code as well. A1E9Z5M2I9BS

Eliont
04-13-2017, 02:29 AM
Someone know how to do this quest? Already comlete this chapter and cant claim
http://puu.sh/viKhC/e660aa1b27.jpg

Wankyudo
04-13-2017, 02:46 AM
Someone know how to do this quest? Already comlete this chapter and cant claim


Each zone has one or two extra quest lines that require a certain amount of stars to be unlocked that culminates in the convoy mission at the end.

Unregistered
04-13-2017, 04:11 AM
Here's my invite code for y'all.

V1F6G3D3X6EK

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my invite code
Z1F0M9T3J1SY

DrakenZero
04-13-2017, 04:11 AM
Looking for Mononofu friends for assists and goodies:

Invite code: I1D5W7F0V5YJ
Friend ID (if you already redeemed another invite code): 171179

denate
04-13-2017, 04:12 AM
Here is my invite code 1000013721
use it for your added item for starter.

Nitewolf
04-13-2017, 07:11 AM
And another invitation code for whoever wants a bit of extra to start: H1S5T1K5O6WJ

Stormy119
04-13-2017, 07:33 AM
My invite code for anyone who would be so kind: F7Y0U7K1AJTB


;)

Astasia
04-13-2017, 08:27 AM
So the tutorial broke on me, I'm not sure if it matters. First when it pointed me to my profile to change my name it said something about returning somewhere else and I missed what it said, I didn't get any more popups for a while, did my own thing and reached level 5 castle. At that point the lab opened up and I got another tutorial thing to click on quests and claim my reward. I couldn't, there was a grey box on top of the quest button and I couldn't click through it. I restarted the game and the gray box was gone, I claimed my reward, but no tutorial message. I've played for like 15 more minutes or so, my castle is almost level 8 and haven't seen anything else. Did I miss any tutorial completion rewards? Or is it not finished until I unlock the smithy whenever that happens?

For the person asking about the easter event, you have to go to the store and buy a dungeon scroll for 10000 coins, which unlocks the dungeon on the special dungeon tab.

Also might as well post my code since everyone else is. >_>

I1Z2N3R5K6MJ

Unregistered
04-13-2017, 08:38 AM
This is my invite code... please use.
I'm lvl 13 but still haven't really figured this game out yet.

S3L1D8W5KPZF

Nitewolf
04-13-2017, 09:05 AM
So the tutorial broke on me, I'm not sure if it matters. First when it pointed me to my profile to change my name it said something about returning somewhere else and I missed what it said, I didn't get any more popups for a while, did my own thing and reached level 5 castle. At that point the lab opened up and I got another tutorial thing to click on quests and claim my reward. I couldn't, there was a grey box on top of the quest button and I couldn't click through it. I restarted the game and the gray box was gone, I claimed my reward, but no tutorial message.

Same happened to me. Also having the tutorial messages popping back up again when clicking the buildings, which is very annoying. Combining that with the tiny amount of inventory space you get, I really wonder if this game is worth it.

Skulkraken
04-13-2017, 09:18 AM
Same happened to me. Also having the tutorial messages popping back up again when clicking the buildings, which is very annoying. Combining that with the tiny amount of inventory space you get, I really wonder if this game is worth it.

The tutorial acted up like that for me, too.

The tiny inventory space is a problem...but at least it's expandable using coins, which are a relatively easy resource to get.

Also, does anyone know how inheritance works?

Unregistered
04-13-2017, 11:04 AM
Anyone know if you can put an invite code after you did the tutorial? Since I click it away at the beginning...

makinaz
04-13-2017, 12:17 PM
Anyone know if you can put an invite code after you did the tutorial? Since I click it away at the beginning...

No you cannot. The game tells you this... after you've already lost the chance to use the code.

BarbatosZaku
04-13-2017, 02:09 PM
Temple or Church? I dont know which is the best option for me.

Keyen
04-13-2017, 02:45 PM
Basically, if you use the class to the left, you go Temple, if you use the classes to the right, you go Church, and if you use both, you are screwed. However, don't worry too much, if you lvlup several skills in the church, and then, you swap to the temple, the skill lvl is transfered to the new class. So you dont really lose anything (except about the artifacts I dont know about yet).

Unregistered
04-13-2017, 04:39 PM
Invite code: Y1L8H7P5S0WZ

Nitty
04-13-2017, 05:14 PM
How do you collect XP from the dojo? Do you have to wait for the bar to fill completely? Then what?

Astasia
04-13-2017, 05:26 PM
How do you collect XP from the dojo? Do you have to wait for the bar to fill completely? Then what?

You don't have to wait, just take them out or put somebody else in their place and they get all the exp they collected. It's a very small amount of exp, it might be hard to notice any gains with characters over level 5 or so.

makinaz
04-13-2017, 05:27 PM
How do you collect XP from the dojo? Do you have to wait for the bar to fill completely? Then what?

Then just take the girl out. It's not necessary to wait the entire time. The bar is just the max amount of exp she can gain in one session.

Keyen
04-13-2017, 05:36 PM
You don't have to wait, just take them out or put somebody else in their place and they get all the exp they collected. It's a very small amount of exp, it might be hard to notice any gains with characters over level 5 or so.

Lvl up it more. Mine give the equivalent of 1 small exp card per hour. Which is not negligible for a passive bonus. A lvl 30 dojo with lvl 30 research is 6K exp/hour.

Wankyudo
04-13-2017, 05:58 PM
Throwing my invite code into the hat

G7Y4T2S2ZFHQ

Keyen
04-13-2017, 07:32 PM
I feel sorry for the guy right after me. The last fight, I got a huge stroke of luck (5 proc resist death in a row, allowing one more hit), getting me the 10th place.

4334

Astasia
04-13-2017, 07:41 PM
I did like 2000 total damage. -_-

I did get an "Original Two-piece Armor" from the easier fight though. 66 base defense, 11 per upgrade, 4% troop regen per turn. Dunno if it's good or not, I assume not since it was an easy fight. Goes well with my "Original Uchigatana" from the prologue at any rate.

Edit: And I just figured out you can forge multiple times in a row. The cooldown adds up to a point, probably capped by the blacksmith level, once it hits that point you have to wait a bit to forge again. I've been sitting here doing it every 2 minutes without realizing I could just forge 15 times in a row then come back 30 minutes later to do it again. >.<

Keyen
04-13-2017, 07:54 PM
It is a very very very very good armor, much better than you will get for some times. It is an easy fight because:
-Ypu can do it only 3 times (it is a convey fight like the other)
-The server has to unlock it by passing thought the early waves.

miki1103
04-13-2017, 08:41 PM
This game seems really good to f2p giving UR card for free... Good chance to have ssr in both platinium and gold draw. The gameplay seems simple but the difficulty spike in the event is ridiculous lol. Seems like a fun game to play :)

Unregistered
04-13-2017, 11:43 PM
Ok so right now it seems that there's always a pair of UR - SSR cards that work together perfectly. e.g. tiger of kai and takeda shingen
The pictures from each girl shows which class is suited best for her. "supposedly"
People that pulled "The Tiger of Kai" will be a shitload ahead because her lvl 30 skill gives her 350% dmg ratio just for fun. I actually was ranked 1 yesterday for a while and completed some campaigns as the first one but now the guys with her fly through because she one shots everything.

As for the world event. Whoever hits the first Boss the hardest and fastest will be rank 1. If you want to climb in ranked use koban for extra battles at midday when the initial battles calmed down,but don't try fighting close to reset either. 10koban = 10 ranked places (maybe use quick battle tickets so you will climb really fast and skip from 500 - 400)

play every easter unit 10x per day and fight the unit that drops SSR unit xp in the beginner dungeon 50x a day.
The droprates are "bugged" right now. So use your tickets now. Even though im f2p Im already at 3 ur 7ssr and 14sr

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The droprates are "bugged" right now. So use your tickets now. Even though im f2p Im already at 3 ur 7ssr and 14sr

Are they really?
How many tickets did you use?
I used 15 gold, 20 silver, ?? bronze, and got 1 SSR, 3 SR and the rest R/UC/C.
So either you are very lucky or you used a heck of a lot more tickets, or you're using a different summon than I.

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well almost everyone in my discord channel is telling how insanely good the droprates are so it's probably not just me
btw I used probably twice your amount you get a shitton for free

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don't forget the free soul and plat tickets

Aidoru
04-13-2017, 11:43 PM
Is everyone in 'your' discord channel a DMM vet?

Unregistered
04-14-2017, 04:20 AM
don't forget the free soul and plat tickets
I don't know how to use them.
I only figured out how to use the gold/silver/bronze.
Can you explain how to use the soul/plat?
When I try it complains about some duel thingo.

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achievement --> mailbox -->inventory --> special summon --> scroll down --> use --> pray for UR

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don't forget the free soul and plat tickets
I don't know how to use them.
I only figured out how to use the gold/silver/bronze.
Can you explain how to use the soul/plat?
When I try it complains about some duel thingo.

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achievement --> mailbox -->inventory --> special summon --> scroll down --> use --> pray for UR

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achievement --> mailbox -->inventory --> special summon --> scroll down --> use --> pray for UR

Thanks... I think I failed the last bit (pray for UR bit), since I got an SSR by following your instructions.

Is it better to level and then evolve or just evolve off the bat?
Are there bonuses for merging 2 lvled chars as opposed to 2 lvl 1 guys?

I've got a fair few dupe SRs and wondering if i should merge them to save space or lvl them first.

Nitty
04-14-2017, 05:24 AM
Is there a limit to the mailbox? Do things disappear after a set time? Is there a size limit?

miki1103
04-14-2017, 06:09 AM
Drop rate bug? Nop its not bug its just a really good % . Nearly 10 % chance of a ssr per plat ticket and 5% per gold ticket that's insane rate. The rate are just rly good and its not a bug lol. You can look at the rate while you look at the gacha content.

Demiurge
04-14-2017, 07:07 AM
Here's my Mononofu invite code: S2D0Y2B3W5OL

Unregistered
04-14-2017, 08:29 AM
Use if you want: H2B2Q9A7TFPR

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Which lvl do i need for the exploration feature of the Port (atm 17)?

The Timezone is Jpn, right (so resets are 0:00 am Jpn time)?

Astasia
04-14-2017, 10:13 AM
Anyone else feeling the need to do the coin quest in the starter dungeon like 50 times a day? My buildings are in the 20s now and it's like 130k coins to upgrade one of them, while my residence is only producing like 20k coins per hour. It feels like you have more coins than you need early on, but it quickly becomes the limiting factor in your advancement.


Even though im f2p Im already at 3 ur 7ssr and 14sr

You get two URs by just doing the 2nd and 3rd panel quests so that's not really surprising. You get several 100% SSR+ and SR+ tickets along the way as well. The game is pretty decent at handing out a few high rarity cards, but that's likely because you have 10 character slots to worry about and you need to evolve all of them.

Keyen
04-14-2017, 10:17 AM
We dont know yet what is the 3rd panel reward, since it's bugged. If you click on the 2nd panel before going to the 3rd, it shows the UR reward, but if you go to the 1st before directly going to the 3rd, it shows the SSR reward. And if you click on the case, it shows nothing, unlike the actual SSR/UR reward on the 1st/2nd panel.

And please, dont say 3 UR/7SSR is not surprising, it is obviously not.

Astasia
04-14-2017, 11:19 AM
We dont know yet what is the 3rd panel reward, since it's bugged. If you click on the 2nd panel before going to the 3rd, it shows the UR reward, but if you go to the 1st before directly going to the 3rd, it shows the SSR reward. And if you click on the case, it shows nothing, unlike the actual SSR/UR reward on the 1st/2nd panel.

Ah, interesting, hadn't noticed that. One would assume it would be a better reward than the second panel, what would be better than a UR ticket?

Unregistered
04-14-2017, 12:22 PM
Speaking of the panel, is it bugged for anybody else? I can only claim upgrading castle to lv 5 just now (it's lv 21). I can't claim any of the others.

gimmick
04-14-2017, 12:36 PM
Anyone else feeling the need to do the coin quest in the starter dungeon like 50 times a day? My buildings are in the 20s now and it's like 130k coins to upgrade one of them, while my residence is only producing like 20k coins per hour. It feels like you have more coins than you need early on, but it quickly becomes the limiting factor in your advancement.

I'm feeling horribly coin starved. Right now I'm concentrating to get the castle to 35 for the fast starter bonus and concentrating on /lab/blacksmith/barracks/residence
as I can.

Keyen
04-14-2017, 12:46 PM
You should upgrade the residence along the castle, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, we have time for upgrading the castle, because the rewards are only sent the 20th, and the timer is hugely decreased by the temple/church. I'm lvl 30 (+lvl 30 residence), I have coins to spare, and I will get my lvl 25 tactics (5 characters) in 2H. In F2P. Shitty draws however (I don't even use the UR I got, way too bad, and got no SSR beside the 2 guaranted)

gimmick
04-14-2017, 12:57 PM
You should upgrade the residence along the castle, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, we have time for upgrading the castle, because the rewards are only sent the 20th, and the timer is hugely decreased by the temple/church. I'm lvl 30 (+lvl 30 residence), I have coins to spare, and I will get my lvl 25 tactics (5 characters) in 2H. In F2P. Shitty draws however (I don't even use the UR I got, way too bad, and got no SSR beside the 2 guaranted)

My gatcha luck is even worse, of my 2 guaranteed SSR's, 1 was an EVO SSR card, so I only have 1 SSR...

Can't wait til I get lvl 25 tactics (I'm about 8 hours from that) so i can start researching expanded roster and actually have general room.

Keyen
04-14-2017, 01:01 PM
Dont count too much on that, since even with the expended roster (I have 53 slots), i'm still 100% cramped and can't use everything I have. For some reason, the gacha is giving me all the C/UC/R/SR before giving me any dupe...


I don't expect to see light on this side until 80-90 slots, which is pretty far. I will just try to keep 11 slots for the 20th (so I can use the 10+1 platinium), but after that...

sniddy
04-14-2017, 01:20 PM
Played a little, no idea whats going on, why to whom or why I should care, few H scenes made no sense and were...meh

I'm out

Natsuki Sasaki
04-14-2017, 02:19 PM
Shouldn't we do a new thread for Mononofu of the Nutaku version...? To not mix them two.

Astasia
04-14-2017, 03:02 PM
Rokkaku Yoshikata (UC) helps quite a bit with coin income. Just bumped up my residence income by 40%.

makinaz
04-14-2017, 03:14 PM
Shouldn't we do a new thread for Mononofu of the Nutaku version...? To not mix them two.

I think this thread is fine because it has a guide in it. No one plays DMM anyway, it's not being updated anymore I don't believe.
Code spam seems to have stopped, so this thread's fine.

Aidoru
04-14-2017, 03:44 PM
Anyone manage to clear the Lv25 mission in the easter or starter's dungeon areas? Having trouble with these. That or I just need better gear as I'm literally still using the stuff from the first chapter.

Keyen
04-14-2017, 04:13 PM
I think I will be able to do it tomorrow. But yes, it's a pretty sturdy wall. You need 5 lvl 30+ guys with lvl 20+ blue/orange equipment.

Aidoru
04-14-2017, 04:39 PM
A 5th member would definitely help but I'm not sure how much more leveling up the formation I need before I get there. I'm gonna guess it's at Lv25 or something for 5 member formations. Also having issues with lack of money so that doesn't help either.

Keyen
04-14-2017, 04:56 PM
It is indeed at lvl 25, and it cost as much as a building lvl 25. But think it as an investment. If you get a 5th character, you will be able to push further, and then, do more lucrative maps, and so, get more gold.

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The maps interesting to deplete everyday:
Beginner dungeon:
-Gold stage (1st) -> 50 tries
-The troop/combat ration stage (2nd) -> 50 tries. Gamble however. Sometime, you get more combat ration than you spent energy. Sometimes, it's the opposite. You decide.
-Exp stage (6th) -> 50 tries
-Once you can, the 7th stage for this juicy SR evolve. 3 tries.
The rest has interesting loots, but the droprate doesn't sound too good. Maybe the platinium fragment one.

Easter:
-Everything, everyday, until you finish the event. 10 tries per stage, 60 tries in total if you are stuck before the stage lvl 25 (like many of us).
Once you are done with the event, you can continue if you are really starved for gold.

Prologue:
-The two convoys-mikos (good drops), 2x3 tries
-The Hidden Dungeon, everything. 4x3 tries. Imba drops everywhere. Silver rolls on the first two map, chance for a (REALLY STRONG) SSR on the last two.

Chapter 1:
-Three convoys-Miko, 3x3 tries. Maybe another one on the 4th map, but I can't get the stars yet.
-The fucking Oda Nobunaga lvl 33 on the 4th map. 50 tries. DO IT. You will roll low amount of gold 99% of the time, but the stage drops an orange weapon (woot), and a whole another stage (WOOT). You can drop it once you get the map, I think. But the droprate is low. Killed him 50 times today, got 1 weapon and lot of 300 golds :>

Chapter 2:
Convoys, as usual. I got the one on the first map, can't advance for the rest. 3 tries.

I'm talking about what I did for now. Since I can't advance (for now) past the chapter 2 map 2 boss (imba regen), I can't tell for the rest.

Of course, you don't have to do everything listed (It's around 240 tries). But they are the good spot for daily farm. Basically, if something has a low count (3 or 10), it has a reason to be farmed.

Aidoru
04-14-2017, 05:02 PM
Yea, the problem more lies in just getting that amount in the first place. The only decent spot I've found for farming gold is the first mission on the Starter's Dungeon (mostly 10~15k per run, 50k if lucky). Is there a better location? I don't mind burning through rations if I need too speed up the process as the sooner I can accumulate the gold for it, the less wasted days I'll have not being able to clear content that's only available for a limited time.

The cooldown from the gold from the residence takes a bit too long for my liking. Which I do have an extra 40%+ on it from garrison unit.

edit: Ty for the list, didn't see it til I posted, so was probably added during the time I was posting this.

Astasia
04-14-2017, 05:11 PM
The rest has interesting loots, but the droprate doesn't sound too good. Maybe the platinium fragment one.

I did the platinum fragment stage 50 times today, got 8 fragments. I dunno if I will be keeping that up. I did also get like 130 small exps though, which took ages to turn in and fuse but got a couple characters from around 25 to 30.

Keyen
04-14-2017, 05:18 PM
Well, honestly, for 8 platinium fragments, I would do it. 1 plat ticket = 300 kobans, 8 fragments = 270 kobans, 50 tries = 5,4 kobans per try in average. Not even counting the exp.


Yea, the problem more lies in just getting that amount in the first place. The only decent spot I've found for farming gold is the first mission on the Starter's Dungeon (mostly 10~15k per run, 50k if lucky). Is there a better location? I don't mind burning through rations if I need too speed up the process as the sooner I can accumulate the gold for it, the less wasted days I'll have not being able to clear content that's only available for a limited time.
TBH, I discovered the gold location in beginner dungeon when you told about it. Missed it at first and didn't try again until you said something about it. I still managed to push this far because:
-The easter stage still gives a lot of money (it's better per try in average than the gold stage)
-I did the 2nd star nearly everywhere, giving lot of money
-I pushed the story as far as I could. Boss gives a lot of money the first time (around 150K/240K per map)
-I focused on the castle and the residence. My church is lvl 13, my dojo and my barracks are lvl 20, port is lvl 10, forge is lvl 15, etc.

Astasia
04-14-2017, 07:34 PM
Hmm. I didn't get the panel achieve thing for world bosses tonight. I came in like 34th place, so I certainly participated, but the panel isn't marked as complete. I wonder if it requires the daimyo one.

Unregistered
04-14-2017, 07:56 PM
I think I will be able to do it tomorrow. But yes, it's a pretty sturdy wall. You need 5 lvl 30+ guys with lvl 20+ blue/orange equipment.

??? not at all
3 guys with high level tiger of kai is enough
I beat her with 4 guys lvl 30 and grey equipment lvl 10

Keyen
04-14-2017, 07:56 PM
I think it require to kill the actual boss. Dunno if i'm right, but I guess these maps are like normal one. Lot of trash troops, then a fight against a boss. And the panel require to participate to an event where the boss is killed, or something like that.


??? not at all
3 guys with high level tiger of kai is enough
I beat her with 4 guys lvl 30 and grey equipment lvl 10

Godly UR is not really a good example.

Astasia
04-14-2017, 08:00 PM
I think it require to kill the actual boss. Dunno if i'm right, but I guess these maps are like normal one. Lot of trash troops, then a fight against a boss. And the panel require to participate to an event where the boss is killed, or something like that.

Ah ya, that would make sense. I guess we didn't actually make it to the boss.

Natsuki Sasaki
04-14-2017, 08:04 PM
So I finally tried this and... no tutorial, huh? I don't even know what to do or how to get more cards, lol. I need to fusion girls and I don't even have cards... Only three, 1 SR and the 2 tutorial R ones.

Astasia
04-14-2017, 08:18 PM
There is a tutorial, it should be pointing you to exactly which card to fuse with which for that stage. I guess it's a bit buggy though, I had issues with the tutorial later on as well.

Aidoru
04-14-2017, 08:24 PM
Played since nutaku launch and still have yet to see a tutorial.

Unregistered
04-14-2017, 08:44 PM
Why is there no Discord Server yet? I'm currently in off-topic on FlowerGirlKnight, but mods were angry yesterday because we talk too much lol

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I think it require to kill the actual boss. Dunno if i'm right, but I guess these maps are like normal one. Lot of trash troops, then a fight against a boss. And the panel require to participate to an event where the boss is killed, or something like that.



Godly UR is not really a good example.

I doubt he won with 4 units lvl 30

I'm finally finished with my 5unit formation and can barely beat her with 2UR/3SSR LVL 32-33

I doubt anyone can beat the final easter egg unit - hmm maybe if you have 5 Tiger of Kai
I looked her up on the JP wiki and she is still the strongest unit although they have many more cards.

Feel free to add me guys (ThisIsMyUsername)

Keyen
04-14-2017, 09:10 PM
Added the 3rd map of the beginner dungeon to the list. Just because it seems you can get more than 5 combat rations from the 50 tries (So it funds itself and much more). I got 5 combats rations in 18 tries.

makinaz
04-14-2017, 09:13 PM
??? not at all
3 guys with high level tiger of kai is enough
I beat her with 4 guys lvl 30 and grey equipment lvl 10

We don't all have Tiger of Kai to carry us. It's not very easy without her.

Astasia
04-14-2017, 09:43 PM
Added the 3rd map of the beginner dungeon to the list. Just because it seems you can get more than 5 combat rations from the 50 tries (So it funds itself and much more). I got 5 combats rations in 18 tries.

I did that one 50 times and got 0 rations. It's a gamble.

Keyen
04-14-2017, 10:03 PM
Yep, got a huge stroke of luck at the start, but only got another on the 32 other. Still got a shitload of troops and +10 energy, but I expected more :p Edited again.

Unregistered
04-14-2017, 10:15 PM
oda drops another 30+ hidden dungeon with amazing loot like the first one

Knave
04-14-2017, 10:18 PM
Okay, just drew Date Masamune and I am not impressed. Skills that only have a chance of activating instead of an automatic buff? I mean I got lucky enough to draw Uesegi Kenshin and between her and Honda Tadakatsu I sailed through until 3rd battle of chapter 1, then I lucked out with the ur ticket and got Tiger of Kai and now she does the heavy lifting. Am I missing something with Date? Is there a troop type she works best with? Or is she just a SSR stat stick?

starburst98
04-14-2017, 10:21 PM
okay what do i do with all these generals? my roster is stuffed and i have platinum and gold tickets to use, do i just max affection the commons and fuse them away?

Keyen
04-14-2017, 10:39 PM
Okay, just drew Date Masamune and I am not impressed. Skills that only have a chance of activating instead of an automatic buff? I mean I got lucky enough to draw Uesegi Kenshin and between her and Honda Tadakatsu I sailed through until 3rd battle of chapter 1, then I lucked out with the ur ticket and got Tiger of Kai and now she does the heavy lifting. Am I missing something with Date? Is there a troop type she works best with? Or is she just a SSR stat stick?

She has a combo with Katakura Kojuuro (SR).

Unregistered
04-14-2017, 10:42 PM
does anyone know on whom I should use inherit?

Astasia
04-14-2017, 10:47 PM
I maxed affection on all my C, UC, and Rs, then sacrificed/fused most of them. There are a few worth keeping, several UCs with bonuses for barracks, one for residence, then there are a few Rs that boost some of the UR/SSR teams, and you'll want at least 2 Cs for quests. If you sacrifice a R you end up wanting back later it's a kick in the nuts, but I don't see any other way to do it. Later on when your castle is really high and you have research that apparently boosts slots further you can start collecting everything, early on you just need to dump it all so you can keep summoning and get better generals. I don't imagine it will be that hard to get back one of every C/UC/R later on.

Inaba Ittetsu (UC) is needed for a couple stars so hold onto her if you get her. That's the only card specifically required by any quests I've seen so far.

Sontilak
04-15-2017, 01:51 AM
So, I pulled The Dragon of Echigo and already have Demon King Nobunaga and Luis Frois. Since Archer doesn't really fit with this army (due to being a tad squishier than others, and the army being mostly Western units. Don't really see a need for 2 Musket / Artillery lines), what's a good Unit type to change Dragon Kenshin to? I'm kinda leaning toward Infantry -> Samurai or Cavalry -> Lancer

Related, does Demon King Nobunaga's Triple Strike work with Artillery too? or only with Muskets / Elite Muskets? (Luis is of course aiming for Miko / Nun)

Wankyudo
04-15-2017, 02:20 AM
So, I pulled The Dragon of Echigo and already have Demon King Nobunaga and Luis Frois. Since Archer doesn't really fit with this army (due to being a tad squishier than others, and the army being mostly Western units. Don't really see a need for 2 Musket / Artillery lines), what's a good Unit type to change Dragon Kenshin to? I'm kinda leaning toward Infantry -> Samurai or Cavalry -> Lancer

Related, does Demon King Nobunaga's Triple Strike work with Artillery too? or only with Muskets / Elite Muskets? (Luis is of course aiming for Miko / Nun)


Fairly certain it does work since one of the missions is against artillery Nobunaga, and I saw triple strike proc. Can't comment on what role to take Dragon to

(While I believe it is, I wouldn't quote me on it though. I may have imagined it)

Unregistered
04-15-2017, 04:22 AM
This is my current set-up.


Uesugi Kenishin ----------- Taikou Hideyoshi ---------------- Empty
(Veteran Samurai) (Corsair)



Empty ----------- Oda Nubunaga ---------------- Empty
(artillery)


Empty ----------- Demon King ---------------- Date Masamune
(artillery) (Lancer or Artillery)


I've been switching my data masamune from class to class because her talon skill never works..I think it only activates with the SR Katakuuro Kuujuro
I'm not happy with this set-up doe just wanted to ask you guys if you think the classes are chosen correctly :P

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This is my current set-up.


Uesugi Kenishin ----------- Taikou Hideyoshi ---------------- Empty
(Veteran Samurai) (Corsair)



Empty ----------- Oda Nubunaga ---------------- Empty
(artillery)


Empty ----------- Demon King ---------------- Date Masamune
(artillery) (Lancer or Artillery)


I've been switching my data masamune from class to class because her talon skill never works..I think it only activates with the SR Katakuuro Kuujuro
I'm not happy with this set-up doe just wanted to ask you guys if you think the classes are chosen correctly :P

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Astasia
04-15-2017, 04:27 AM
Personally I find the entire archer troop set and all branches to be fairly crap. I stopped using any of them. Armor basically ruins the entire mechanic. Each hit is reduced a lot more by armor than the single larger hits from other classes, and even with armor penetration it just doesn't work well I found. I switched my Marksmen out for some Crimson Riders and that was massively more effective on most maps. Even in situations where the archers do a decent amount of damage, having other class types with them sort of messes with their thing, the archers weaken something then the other troops overkill it and waste a lot of potential damage. I feel like archers would work well in full teams of archers designed for quickly grinding easier/soft maps, but I feel like for progressing or doing difficult content they suck. That might just be me though, maybe other people are finding them more useful.


I think I will be able to do it tomorrow. But yes, it's a pretty sturdy wall. You need 5 lvl 30+ guys with lvl 20+ blue/orange equipment.

I was able to do the 25 easter stage today with 4 generals, but otherwise close to that. Level 30-37s, they all had level 12-17 Original Uchigatanas, two of them had level 11-12 Original One-Piece armor, one had a level 11 Original Western, then trash mostly unleveled grey-blue accessories because I haven't found any good ones. The trick I used was abusing Naoe Kagetsuna, a SR with 16% troop regen per turn, I switched her to Personal Guard troops, gave her a 4% regen armor, and she was regenerating like 400 health per turn and only taking like 200 damage per hit in porcupine. So she could perma tank the right column while my other three generals dealt with the two enemies in the middle and left. Took like 10 rounds each battle, but was able to clear it safely 10 times. And got 0 eggs. I don't think I'll hit 750 points in time. >.<

There's a level 30 stage after it, nobody has cleared it yet. I didn't waste the energy to see what was inside.

I feel like the easter event was designed for established players capable of doing the entire run every day, and we got shorted by having it right as the game was launching. I did get 2000 kobans in my easter box today, which was nice, but I promptly wasted it on a 11x plat pull which gave me all dupe garbage.

Keyen
04-15-2017, 06:11 AM
Personally I find the entire archer troop set and all branches to be fairly crap. I stopped using any of them. Armor basically ruins the entire mechanic. Each hit is reduced a lot more by armor than the single larger hits from other classes, and even with armor penetration it just doesn't work well I found. I switched my Marksmen out for some Crimson Riders and that was massively more effective on most maps. Even in situations where the archers do a decent amount of damage, having other class types with them sort of messes with their thing, the archers weaken something then the other troops overkill it and waste a lot of potential damage. I feel like archers would work well in full teams of archers designed for quickly grinding easier/soft maps, but I feel like for progressing or doing difficult content they suck. That might just be me though, maybe other people are finding them more useful.

You are not that wrong, you are just missing one thing. Several characters have damage proc (Like SSR Kuroda Kanbei, SR Honganji "Voodoo is fucking OP in world boss" Kennyo and several other). These damage proc are not reduced by the damage multiplier of archer. Meaning if you use them in an artillery unit, you will do this damage proc x5 nearly each time, and it will do a fucking huge dps, even if the base damage is crap.

Nitty
04-15-2017, 06:49 AM
SSR Date Masamune's skill is different than the description (on JP too). It seems to RNG up to 2.5x damage, with nothing stacking between turns. If you include the character that has a synergy with her, you get a better chance of higher damage, but still max 2.5x. My other characters do 500-600 damage, but Date can do over 1000 easily.

/edit Actually the skill description isn't wrong, it's just misleading. "Chance to continuously stack" means it'll try to stack up to 6 times in the same turn, then next turn it'll reset to 0 and try to stack 6 times again. So you can get +25% damage then fail or roll +25 +25 +25 +25 +25 +25 % = 2.5x in one turn.

White935
04-15-2017, 07:32 AM
Discord link is dead :(

PS: anyone got any suggestion on earning gold?
I'm drying up badly and can't seem to find a decent source/convoy to hit to stock up.

Mimea
04-15-2017, 08:49 AM
Discord link is dead :(

PS: anyone got any suggestion on earning gold?
I'm drying up badly and can't seem to find a decent source/convoy to hit to stock up.

The best one I've found, and I think was mentioned earlier in the thread, is the first battle of the Starter Dungeon. Yes, it's a 10K gold expenditure in the Shop to open the dungeon, but you make that up in just one round. Each time you fight the battle gets you between 10 and 50K gold, and you can do it up to 50 times per day.

I'm still hoarding gold like a crazy person, though. Gotta get those level 35-in-a-week-castle prizes. :D

White935
04-15-2017, 09:11 AM
The best one I've found, and I think was mentioned earlier in the thread, is the first battle of the Starter Dungeon. Yes, it's a 10K gold expenditure in the Shop to open the dungeon, but you make that up in just one round. Each time you fight the battle gets you between 10 and 50K gold, and you can do it up to 50 times per day.

I'm still hoarding gold like a crazy person, though. Gotta get those level 35-in-a-week-castle prizes. :D
4364

Gold digging all day long eh ? :P i think i'll join ya, want caste level 35 too :P

Maxilios
04-15-2017, 12:57 PM
Is it worth to play Masamune Date SSR and Katakura Kojuuro SR combo ? Now I have The Tiger of Kai UR, Uesugi Kenshin SSR, Date Masamune SSR, Oda Nobunaga SSR and Toyotomi Hideyoshi SSR. Must i play all 5 of them in 1 formation or better use Katakura instead of someone ?

Keyen
04-15-2017, 01:29 PM
Pick Katakura Kojuuro, gives her the personnal guard class (or knight if you use the other part of classes tree), and you get yourself a fucking unkillable frontline who is buffing your masamune date. You need one, and she will do that much better than any other character you have (among the SSR/UR listed). Just remove Toyotomi Hideyoshi, I think she is the most dispensable character you have.

I saw several people using Nao Kagetsuna as a tank, but Katakura Kojuuro is much better.

Unregistered
04-15-2017, 01:35 PM
Pick Katakura Kojuuro, gives her the personnal guard class (or knight if you use the other part of classes tree), and you get yourself a fucking unkillable frontline who is buffing your masamune date. You need one, and she will do that much better than any other character you have (among the SSR/UR listed). Just remove Toyotomi Hideyoshi, I think she is the most dispensable character you have.

I saw several people using Nao Kagetsuna as a tank, but Katakura Kojuuro is much better.


Thank you.

Sontilak
04-15-2017, 01:50 PM
Thank you.

I'd drop Nobunaga actually, the Tiger of Kai wants to be on the left side of the Unit tree (Light Cavalry, either Crimson or Black riders). Nobunaga wants to be on the right side (Musketeers and Artillery). You can't buff both sides at once (Temple or Church), so let your UR decide which branch you're on.

Keyen
04-15-2017, 02:27 PM
That's true as well.

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C/P something I wrote on another forum, if you had the same question about "what formation should I use":

When you are using a formation, you need to consider 4 things:
-The stats, obviously, but also...
-How vulnerable you are to AOE (Little spreadsheet about the vulnerability of each formation at the first turn of battle (http://forums.jeuxonline.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=282384&d=1492283497))
-How many units you can protect with one strong tank (for instance, Bison formation doesn't allow a tank to protect 2 others units behind him)
-And how well you can focus. It's related to the previous point, Bison can't use 3 characters to focus one unit.


Basically, I will go Crane, because I think the speed is extremly important (Enemies are usually faster, so it's like getting a free turn, much better any other stats), the vulnerability to aoe is the lowest with the python, and I can protect up to 2 units with my main tank.

Aidoru
04-15-2017, 02:55 PM
Looks like the game is already losing interest as it's dropping on rankings.

Anyways, Demon King on Starter's Dungeon, jeez. I can't see myself beating this unless I start whaling or something.

Is there by any chance a general opinion from DMM about which unit types are better to use? Aside from units that are needed to be a specific type for their skills to activate.

Unregistered
04-15-2017, 03:00 PM
What Religion should I choose "Temple" or "Church" and why?
Was not expecting this at level 20

Aidoru
04-15-2017, 03:07 PM
What Religion should I choose "Temple" or "Church" and why?
Was not expecting this at level 20

You can change between after if you chose.

Temple focuses on unit types on the left side of the class tree while church focus on the right side. Like the Archer class splits between Archer (Left) and Musketeer (Right). Going temple will provide abiitiy to level up dmg/def bonuses for archers while church for musketeers. It's like this for every type.

SOMEGUY789
04-15-2017, 04:24 PM
Why do the daily missions always say that the "dungeon is closed"?

Knave
04-15-2017, 04:50 PM
Looks like the game is already losing interest as it's dropping on ranking

Some of that can be because once you get to the mid-20s, without a fair amount of luck with the gacha to get certain UR and SSR generals to carry the game, the game becomes really grindy. That is very boring to most people.

Aidoru
04-15-2017, 05:39 PM
Since I have little to no knowledge of anything historically related towards Japan, can someone tell me who the 4 Demons of Tokugawa are? Tokugawa Ieyasu seems to be the only unit with the actual name. Googles not much help and the skills that require them do not list the actual units, unless I'm mistaking it for something else.

SOMEGUY789
04-15-2017, 06:14 PM
Probably a shit translation for the Tokugawa clans Shitenno.

Unregistered
04-15-2017, 06:15 PM
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passerby
04-15-2017, 06:17 PM
Since I have little to no knowledge of anything historically related towards Japan, can someone tell me who the 4 Demons of Tokugawa are? Tokugawa Ieyasu seems to be the only unit with the actual name. Googles not much help and the skills that require them do not list the actual units, unless I'm mistaking it for something else.

Taking a swing at it, probably mistranslated

His Four "Heavenly Kings" Generals:
Ii Naomasa
Honda Tadakatsu
Sakakibara Yasumasa
Sakai Tadatsugu

White935
04-15-2017, 07:17 PM
I would imagine why the popularity drop is not related to the game (it's pretty good i'd say, and not terribly difficult for f2p style game-play.. thou a bit grindy at times).
But the fact that for EU time-zones The World events occur at 2 Am and 5 AM respectively (dungeon and boss).
Which honestly leaves the EU players in the dust.. so i imagine that locks out a portion of the player-base.

Aidoru
04-15-2017, 07:37 PM
Taking a swing at it, probably mistranslated

His Four "Heavenly Kings" Generals:
Ii Naomasa
Honda Tadakatsu
Sakakibara Yasumasa
Sakai Tadatsugu

Dang, that sucks, 2 of those are lower than SR, not even sure if it's worth it.

Also keep forgetting to ask, what's the point of the defense party? Or is it basically just set 1 and set 2? At first I thought defense party was what other players would fight in rank matches but after finding out you can check battle history of others battling you, it seems they don't fight the defense party. So what purpose does it serve?

Bruceski
04-15-2017, 09:27 PM
Just poked my head into the game, and the small number of general slots you get while leveling the castle is frustrating given the number of gacha tokens you get. As I get better folks (and raise affection enough to collect the h-scenes), how many C/UC/etcetera do I need to keep around for star requirements? Seen 1 C and 2 UC ones so far.

Keyen
04-15-2017, 09:45 PM
You may want to keep these UC wtih residence/barracks bonus as well. But yes, with 2C/2C/2R, you should be good.

Selius
04-16-2017, 02:37 AM
how do evolution emblems work? i noticed that once i got a unit to 4* i can't use another copy to get it to 5*.

is there a limit to how many times an evolution emblem can be used?

is there any penalty to using a copy to 4* a unit instead of 5*?

Astasia
04-16-2017, 08:35 AM
Taking a swing at it, probably mistranslated

His Four "Heavenly Kings" Generals:
Ii Naomasa
Honda Tadakatsu
Sakakibara Yasumasa
Sakai Tadatsugu

This seems to be the case. Took me a while to figure out, my free UR was Tohsho Daigongen and I couldn't tell if Endurance was ever doing anything. Spent a lot of time looking around in the game and couldn't find anything, even googled "4 demons of tokugawa" and found nothing. Then while building affection with Honda Tadakatsu I noticed endurance triggering at the beginning of every battle. Honda's profile lists out the four heavenly kings. I did have Il Naomasa, I didn't notice it triggering endurance, maybe I wasn't paying attention, I sacrificed her without realizing it. I haven't seen the other two.


Dang, that sucks, 2 of those are lower than SR, not even sure if it's worth it.

I'm starting to feel like rarity doesn't really matter much. There seems to be very little stat difference, just a few point in Power, Leadership and Intelligence, and you can buff all those quite a bit using research and items. The skills seem to be the only thing that matters, and many of the SSR and URs have powerful skills that require SRs and Rs to trigger. Like out my five different SSRs 3 of them need a rare to fully function. Toyotomi Hideyoshi requires Nene, Tokugawa Ieyasu requires the 4 "demons," and Hohjo Ujiyasu along with several SRs are all built around a R, Hohho Suhun. The Hohjo/Hohho units are pretty interesting, it's like a SSR and 2 SRs that all focus on boosting the reflect of a single R unit, and it looks like it can get close to if not over 100% damage reflected on her.


Also keep forgetting to ask, what's the point of the defense party? Or is it basically just set 1 and set 2? At first I thought defense party was what other players would fight in rank matches but after finding out you can check battle history of others battling you, it seems they don't fight the defense party. So what purpose does it serve?

When people attack you they do attack your defense team. Or at least they should, they do for me. I'm pretty sure your defense leader is also your account avatar for your friend list and whatnot.

White935
04-16-2017, 09:01 AM
I'm starting to feel like rarity doesn't really matter much. There seems to be very little stat difference, just a few point in Power, Leadership and Intelligence, and you can buff all those quite a bit using research and items. The skills seem to be the only thing that matters, and many of the SSR and URs have powerful skills that require SRs and Rs to trigger. Like out my five different SSRs 3 of them need a rare to fully function. Toyotomi Hideyoshi requires Nene, Tokugawa Ieyasu requires the 4 "demons," and Hohjo Ujiyasu along with several SRs are all built around a R, Hohho Suhun. The Hohjo/Hohho units are pretty interesting, it's like a SSR and 2 SRs that all focus on boosting the reflect of a single R unit, and it looks like it can get close to if not over 100% damage reflected on her.


This is indeed so, but it's also a one of the better parts with this game, if you look on the skills and individuality of the skills its quite a lot more flexible than most other nutaku games where the skills are just graphic and re-branded with different names.. the skills really differs between each character... i also believe it's not intended to be a "pure" whale 5 UR builds.. but 1 UR, 2 SR 1 SRR is a completely viable build.. and skills allow such combinations to be put together... it gives some interest to the game in my opinion.
There's a few of the R skills i really believe can be great to.. like the one that buffs the entire army based on dice rolls.

FanMao
04-16-2017, 10:12 AM
what better units use for Uesugi Kenshin and Tohsho Daigongen?(for temple) i think mb for uesugi shock trooper, for Daigongen personal guard or need other units? and other question what give stats Inteligence, leadership and power?

Bruceski
04-16-2017, 10:45 AM
You may want to keep these UC wtih residence/barracks bonus as well. But yes, with 2C/2C/2R, you should be good.

Does it ever upgrade to a point where I can garrison more than one unit in those? I actually got dealt a lot of barracks-boosters.

Unregistered
04-16-2017, 11:02 AM
Which unit path should i choose for Uesugi Kenshin?

Bruceski
04-16-2017, 11:06 AM
Also, what's the proper translation for the unit-specific abilities of Takeda Nobushige, Konishi Yukinaga, and Mori Ranmaru? Takeda's first one says "light cavalry", but it's unclear for the others whether they apply to only the left branch of their unit tree or the full thing since "archer" and "cavalry" are the base units.

Nexiv
04-16-2017, 11:09 AM
Hohjo Ujiyasu along with several SRs are all built around a R, Hohho Suhun. The Hohjo/Hohho units are pretty interesting, it's like a SSR and 2 SRs that all focus on boosting the reflect of a single R unit, and it looks like it can get close to if not over 100% damage reflected on her.

i got Hohjo Ujiyasu,Hohjo Ujitsuna and Hohjo Suhun.
Who is the another sr?

Unregistered
04-16-2017, 11:40 AM
M3P3N5R2D1WU

Nitty
04-16-2017, 01:49 PM
I made a wiki page for character synergies, but don't know who the Oda leaders and Otomo guys are.
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Mononofu/Mononofu:Character-Synergy

Yu3kino
04-16-2017, 02:05 PM
Anyone know how to get Nanban pistol? I kind of screw up with the trade. Just spend the ration to buy 20 forged stone to make ultimate Nanban pistol for my UR nobunaga, but I didn't scroll down to see that it need 2 Modified Nanban pistol as well. Now I need to make it which require Nanban pistol. I just keep forgetting to scroll since other games usually have page.

Astasia
04-16-2017, 02:17 PM
i got Hohjo Ujiyasu,Hohjo Ujitsuna and Hohjo Suhun.
Who is the another sr?

I could have sworn there was a 4th unit for that synergy, one that wasn't named Hohjo, but I just looked through all the units again and couldn't find it. I guess I was wrong.

Unregistered
04-16-2017, 02:39 PM
Anyone know how to get Nanban pistol? I kind of screw up with the trade. Just spend the ration to buy 20 forged stone to make ultimate Nanban pistol for my UR nobunaga, but I didn't scroll down to see that it need 2 Modified Nanban pistol as well. Now I need to make it which require Nanban pistol. I just keep forgetting to scroll since other games usually have page.

How do you even get the cursed stones? I guess the pistol is in some campaign as orange item, same as Nobu spear is but no idea where to find most trade ingredients. Maybe upgrading port more as mine is lvl 18? :S

Keyen
04-16-2017, 02:40 PM
Lvl 19, yeah.

BarbatosZaku
04-16-2017, 05:28 PM
How many chapters are enable?

SOMEGUY789
04-16-2017, 06:49 PM
I could have sworn there was a 4th unit for that synergy, one that wasn't named Hohjo, but I just looked through all the units again and couldn't find it. I guess I was wrong.

It might be Kaihime. If there is a fourth needed.

Unregistered
04-16-2017, 09:26 PM
Has anyone ever seen the 'Army God' ability of Uesugi Kenshin actually proc? Ability description specifically says it triggers during combat, but I've never once seen it trigger.

Knave
04-16-2017, 09:50 PM
Has anyone ever seen the 'Army God' ability of Uesugi Kenshin actually proc? Ability description specifically says it triggers during combat, but I've never once seen it trigger.

I don't think that it triggers visibly like Dragon of Echigo, more of a hidden stat boost. Also, to get it you need to set Kenshin as leader.

For my own question, does anyone know how to start artifact exploration? Port is level 15 and I do not see option to do it.

Selius
04-16-2017, 10:40 PM
I don't think that it triggers visibly like Dragon of Echigo, more of a hidden stat boost. Also, to get it you need to set Kenshin as leader.

For my own question, does anyone know how to start artifact exploration? Port is level 15 and I do not see option to do it.

it's just a broken passive. it does not work. it does not trigger.

you need church/temple to be level 30 for exploration

Yuki
04-16-2017, 11:22 PM
Nobbie question but what level does castle/lab need to be for a 5 unit team ?

Selius
04-16-2017, 11:23 PM
Nobbie question but what level does castle/lab need to be for a 5 unit team ?

you level up the formation itself to get more spots. technically you need level 22 i believe.

3 spots at 7, 4 spots at 15, 5 spots at 22? i think

Yuki
04-16-2017, 11:28 PM
I'm already at 21 python but next lvl up still says 4 units :'(

Aidoru
04-16-2017, 11:41 PM
Lv25 is needed.

Kotono
04-17-2017, 12:37 AM
Anyone else seem to have their castle level reward bag vanish? Mine seems to have gone missing before getting to level 15...

Knave
04-17-2017, 02:25 AM
Does that mean to start collecting those flower tokens to trade for super exp cards, I need level 30 castle and temple? If so, that will take a couple of days to get to.

Selius
04-17-2017, 04:17 AM
Does that mean to start collecting those flower tokens to trade for super exp cards, I need level 30 castle and temple? If so, that will take a couple of days to get to.

seems like it. at level 30 church i now have exploration at my port.

costs 80k and takes an hour.

Kurzathan
04-17-2017, 06:00 AM
2 questions:
Any recommendations for passing 32+ map? My team consists of tiger girl and dragon girl UR's 0star and 2 SSR's one of them is 1 star. They're all 35 and the one star is 36 working on getting her to 40. I have full set of blues from previous map or one before taichi, barrel armor, and poems thing. All the gear is level 15 and I'm still having issues. All formations are 15. I'm working on leadership thing atm then intelligence I think.

Any good way to make coin? I'm constantly sitting around 100k coins which isn't enough to catch up building to castle atm.

Selius
04-17-2017, 06:12 AM
2 questions:
Any recommendations for passing 32+ map? My team consists of tiger girl and dragon girl UR's 0star and 2 SSR's one of them is 1 star. They're all 35 and the one star is 36 working on getting her to 40. I have full set of blues from previous map or one before taichi, barrel armor, and poems thing. All the gear is level 15 and I'm still having issues. All formations are 15. I'm working on leadership thing atm then intelligence I think.

Any good way to make coin? I'm constantly sitting around 100k coins which isn't enough to catch up building to castle atm.

Originally Posted by Selius
you are literally refunded the bulk of the cost of leveling up your lab/dojo/barracks/residence. you do the 50 times starter dungeon map 1 for a MINIMUM of 500k gold. you will typically average 600k+/50 runs.

my residence at level 30 currently gives me 450k every 8 hours with my level 33 shibata katsuie garrisoned in it.

page 1 of your achievements is 140k. page 2 is even more. the easter dungeon maps give out 25-35k more often than any other reward.

2*ing most of your story maps has cash reward.

you get big cash rewards for full starring story areas.

just did a convoy battle in the 2nd story map: 100k gold drop.

Skulkraken
04-17-2017, 06:23 AM
4388

Okay, I've got a question. What is this girl's last ability talking about with "chance to use 2 skills"? Is it the case that a unit can normally only trigger one skill each turn? I keep seeing Date Masamune's second/third skill seemingly refuse to trigger, and I was wondering if it was because the first one keeps triggering instead.

Setsui
04-17-2017, 06:39 AM
Seems like lvl 25 special dungeon quests are quite misleading in terms of difficulties spikes, specially Honda Tadakatsu for the starting dungeon, as is harder than all chapter 2 missions from Uprising of Mikawa that is for recommended for players lv 30+ , in my opinion this may be discouraging newer players thinking that if they dont spend money or play a lot they will not be able to progress , There also quite a few noob traps like the Crane formation and wasting time farming gear in quest that have only 1 good reward out of the 6 possibles For example farming equipment in earlier chapters its fairly unproductive. The jump on difficulty may make new players try to get strong in sub-optimal ways instead advancing in the campaign and focusing on the forge/lab upgrades ( Port for example is also a noob trap earlier in the game). Same goes as the mechanic about hidden battle quests making them appear only after reaching a certain number of starts on the battles, unlocking Rokkaku Yoshitaka on the battle of kumeda (first battle of chapter 2) for example is really important for newer players as this is the quest drops two higher troop upgrades for cavalry, the crimson rider and the knight. This upgrades really helped me fighting against the lv 29 quest battle against Shimozuma Rairen in the Uprising of mikawa (second part of chapter 2) This level 29 battle is actually easier than the level 25 battles from the special dungeons and drops a blue weapon named the Mumei sword and a troop upgrade for samurai troops that made me jump in power to the point where i was finally able to progress further on the special dungeons even thought i didnt had the Tiger of Kai.

Obviously a fair amount of noob traps and sub-optimal decision in the early game can be skipped by having ealry-game power house like the tiger of kai or spending a few amount of nutaku gold but hopefully the community will be able to put a guide for people who dont , a discord community that is interested in helping new players could aso help. In my opinion the game is fairly fair to F2P players and how troops and general interact with each other putting and emphasis on synergy makes your way of play unique. Even thought noone can deny that this game has his fair share of grind, grinding quest that have two good rewards out of the 6 certainly makes it more fun and less annoying.

Hyohmaru
04-17-2017, 08:42 AM
Hi guys I'm new to the forum and to the game, playing the nutaku version since it launched four days ago and I can say I have some pretty solid units already. Here's my roster:

(large image, I hope it you be resized automatically)

Okay so I can't post links... will have to attach it

I did intend to build all cavalry units but I just got 2 luís fróis units in one single pull so I'm going 2x Nuke Cavalry 2x Archer Cavalry 1x Nun. What do you guys think?

But my real question is about The Dragon of Echigo, Kenshin. The mistranslation of nutaku is troubling me... And Kenshin card is one of it. Here it says "When leading" so I logically put her as Leader of all my generals but this skill NEVER procs... NEVER... So I was thinking that it actually means "when leading X unit" and nutaku cut it out. Since you guys play the Japanese version, can you confirm it to me?

Last question, is Sanada Nobushige (Yukimura) available in the Japanese version?


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Okay, I've got a question. What is this girl's last ability talking about with "chance to use 2 skills"? Is it the case that a unit can normally only trigger one skill each turn? I keep seeing Date Masamune's second/third skill seemingly refuse to trigger, and I was wondering if it was because the first one keeps triggering instead. It enhances the chance to proc the second skill. The translation is quite awful

Bruceski
04-17-2017, 10:31 AM
Originally Posted by Selius
my residence at level 30 currently gives me 450k every 8 hours with my level 33 shibata katsuie garrisoned in it.


With a level 15 Rokkaku Yoshikato in a level 18 residence I make 33K every 40 minutes, or 400K every 8 hours. Sounds like leveling that place up less affects how much you make, and more how long you can go before emptying it.

Nitty
04-17-2017, 11:06 AM
I did intend to build all cavalry units but I just got 2 luís fróis units in one single pull so I'm going 2x Nuke Cavalry 2x Archer Cavalry 1x Nun. What do you guys think?

But my real question is about The Dragon of Echigo, Kenshin. The mistranslation of nutaku is troubling me... And Kenshin card is one of it. Here it says "When leading" so I logically put her as Leader of all my generals but this skill NEVER procs... NEVER... So I was thinking that it actually means "when leading X unit" and nutaku cut it out. Since you guys play the Japanese version, can you confirm it to me?

It doesn't sound like you'll have enough defense with Calvary and Archers. I'm also struggling to get my archers to do much damage.

Kenshin's skill says it's for "統率部隊" which is command/lead + force/army. If it was a specific troop it would be "troop + 部隊". The skill may be always on and increases effect with intelligence, but I don't see any details.

Hyohmaru
04-17-2017, 11:32 AM
It doesn't sound like you'll have enough defense with Calvary and Archers. I'm also struggling to get my archers to do much damage.

Kenshin's skill says it's for "統率部隊" which is command/lead + force/army. If it was a specific troop it would be "troop + 部隊". The skill may be always on and increases effect with intelligence, but I don't see any details.My intention is to do the most damage the fast as possible. Until now it's working, I always have the most SPD and kill at least 2 units of other players/npc enemies in the first turn. But to deal with some aoe maps I go full Knights.

Also thanks for the answer about kenshin. You play the japanese version? Do they have Sanada Yukimura and which rank is him? SSR?

Knave
04-17-2017, 11:47 AM
Hi guys I'm new to the forum and to the game, playing the nutaku version since it launched four days ago and I can say I have some pretty solid units already. Here's my roster:

I did intend to build all cavalry units but I just got 2 luís fróis units in one single pull so I'm going 2x Nuke Cavalry 2x Archer Cavalry 1x Nun. What do you guys think?



For my own opinion, that team seems very unbalanced, little or no defense so you are very dependent on grinding exp cards and orange gear to max damage output to breakthrough the new chapters. I have found that rarity is less important than general's abilities and team synergy. Using the Hohjo, Date or Tokugawa teams is going to make your life easier than using 4 or 5 UR and SSR beatsticks.

Astasia
04-17-2017, 11:58 AM
Anyone else seem to have their castle level reward bag vanish? Mine seems to have gone missing before getting to level 15...

I never got a level 15 bag. When I was looking at the item list for the level 10 bag before opening it there was no other bag listed though, so I assumed it just stopped there.



Any recommendations for passing 32+ map? My team consists of tiger girl and dragon girl UR's 0star and 2 SSR's one of them is 1 star. They're all 35 and the one star is 36 working on getting her to 40. I have full set of blues from previous map or one before taichi, barrel armor, and poems thing. All the gear is level 15 and I'm still having issues. All formations are 15. I'm working on leadership thing atm then intelligence I think.

Really need to get lab to 25 and upgrade your formations. Getting 5 generals out is probably the biggest thing you can do to increase your power. Also make sure you have tiger of kai as like a crimson rider troop, I've seen other people using her in replays and she usually one-shots most things. Maybe look at troops that boost her damage even more, like the SR that throws dice for a 8% team damage boost. Seems to be a popular combo.


With a level 15 Rokkaku Yoshikato in a level 18 residence I make 33K every 40 minutes, or 400K every 8 hours. Sounds like leveling that place up less affects how much you make, and more how long you can go before emptying it.

That's the case up until around level 30 residence. At that point the collection timer caps out at 8 hours and each time you level it you are just increasing coins per hour by like 1k. It's not a very big improvement, getting to to level 30 just makes it so you can check back on the game less often.

Nitty
04-17-2017, 12:28 PM
Also thanks for the answer about kenshin. You play the japanese version? Do they have Sanada Yukimura and which rank is him? SSR?

I looked at the JPN wiki.

SSR with an event UR version https://mononohu.gamerch.com/SSR%E7%9C%9F%E7%94%B0%E5%B9%B8%E6%9D%91

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 01:18 PM
Also make sure you have tiger of kai as like a crimson rider troop, I've seen other people using her in replays and she usually one-shots most things. Maybe look at troops that boost her damage even more, like the SR that throws dice for a 8% team damage boost. Seems to be a popular combo..

Is going Crimson Rider really a good idea though? I feel like Black Rider benefits her more overall.

Hyohmaru
04-17-2017, 01:23 PM
For my own opinion, that team seems very unbalanced, little or no defense so you are very dependent on grinding exp cards and orange gear to max damage output to breakthrough the new chapters. I have found that rarity is less important than general's abilities and team synergy. Using the Hohjo, Date or Tokugawa teams is going to make your life easier than using 4 or 5 UR and SSR beatsticks.
Until now I'm not having any problem but I think my counter will be damage reflection... I will just kill myself. Do you know any japanese tierlist or posts with units synergy?

I looked at the JPN wiki.

SSR with an event UR version
Thanks, she is so cute hahaha xD


Is going Crimson Rider really a good idea though? I feel like Black Rider benefits her more overall.
My Tiger of Kai does like he says xD It one shots anything in the way. I have two crimson riders, Tiger Shingen and Dragon Kenshin and they one-hit the frontline. But sometimes that means killing themselves

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 01:51 PM
What I'm saying is she would probably one shot it even if she wasn't a crimson rider. Her skill makes her damage gamebreaking. So instead of spending the first turn to 1shot something you already would even without going Crimson Rider (CR), why not go Black Rider (BR) and make it 1 turn to 1 shot 2 enemies or nearly kill 2 enemies instead?

CR's skill only works on the first turn and the additional bonus only works on enemy archers, which you're unlikely to hit as they're generally placed behind units. Unless Crimson Rider can bypass front line defense? BR on the other hand becomes a archer and can attack any unit.

In terms of calculations, in regular form, CR does 125% dmg on first turn (145% on archers) then reverts back to 100%. BR does 60% x 2 forever. 5% less but then you compare their elite forms it becomes 135% (165% archers) vs 80% x 2, 25% more for BR on all but archers and not just a single turn. Let's not forget higher base SPD and ATK, with SPD being extremely important as without it being higher than the enemy, you won't even be doing 350% damage in the first place.

So unless there's a hidden factor I'm not seeing, more scenarios seem to fall towards the advantage of Tiger Kai going BR.

Nitty
04-17-2017, 02:08 PM
Depends on where things end up late game. On maps I'm pushing right now Tiger can't 1-shot everything as Crimson, but there's still room to grow.

Hyohmaru
04-17-2017, 02:14 PM
Is going Crimson Rider really a good idea though? I feel like Black Rider benefits her more overall.


What I'm saying is she would probably one shot it even if she wasn't a crimson rider. Her skill makes her damage gamebreaking. So instead of spending the first turn to 1shot something you already would even without going Crimson Rider (CR), why not go Black Rider (BR) and make it 1 turn to 1 shot 2 enemies or nearly kill 2 enemies instead?

CR's skill only works on the first turn and the additional bonus only works on enemy archers, which you're unlikely to hit as they're generally placed behind units. Unless Crimson Rider can bypass front line defense? BR on the other hand becomes a archer and can attack any unit.

In terms of calculations, in regular form, CR does 125% dmg on first turn (145% on archers) then reverts back to 100%. BR does 60% x 2 forever. 5% less but then you compare their elite forms it becomes 135% (165% archers) vs 80% x 2, 25% more for BR on all but archers and not just a single turn. Let's not forget higher base SPD and ATK, with SPD being extremely important as without it being higher than the enemy, you won't even be doing 350% damage in the first place.

So unless there's a hidden factor I'm not seeing, more scenarios seem to fall towards the advantage of Tiger Kai going BR.It makes sense, you're right. I'm going to change it later. Also I'm thinking of this squad:

Tiger Shingen(level 35): Black Rider
Tadakatsu Honda(level 55): Commando Trooper
Date Masamune(level 40): Trooper. For the extra defense, tho her second skill NEVER procs, I'm thinking of replacing her for a Heavy Knight that synergizes with Takeda
Dragon Kenshin(Level 35): Crimson Rider. I'll just keep her like that to help cleaning the frontline as soon as possible, also it synergizes with her first skill.
Luís Fróis(Level 40) Nun, of course.


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Now an important question, the tournament registration is about to end... Here it says to pay 50 koban to submit my team... Is it mistranslated? Is it to pay 50 kobans to Change the Team and it's already registered? I didn't pay anything yet but I'm afraid of being out of the tournament. Do I need to pay to submit the team?

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 02:19 PM
Depends on where things end up late game. On maps I'm pushing right now Tiger can't 1-shot everything as Crimson, but there's still room to grow.

I feel like that's even less of a reason to go Crimson. The main purpose of CR is to kill an enemy on the first turn, probably to reduce the stress of 4~5 strong enemies. But if you can't even kill the target in 1 turn in the first place, then it loses even more purpose as it loses its damage boost after that first turn. Dragging out a fight will only add onto how much more damage a BR does over a CR.

Hyohmaru
04-17-2017, 02:23 PM
Can anyone answer about the event, please? The time is running out :(

Nitty
04-17-2017, 03:08 PM
No idea on the tournament, sorry. I would guess it's to change team, but that's only a guess.

Talking about the first evolution, if it takes 200% damage to kill something, a BR would take 4 turns and a CR would take 2. I would go for the CR. Also, how random is the targetting on BR?

Knave
04-17-2017, 03:33 PM
I just pulled Kuroda Kanbei from the gacha and was reviewing her skills. I think shock trooper would work best with the lifesteal. Does anyone know the place to get that upgrade?

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 03:37 PM
I just pulled Kuroda Kanbei from the gacha and was reviewing her skills. I think shock trooper would work best with the lifesteal. Does anyone know the place to get that upgrade?

Chapter 1 Hidden Dungeon if you have it or Chapter 2, Ambushing Inabayama Castle, one of the red soldiers stage drops it.

Nitty
04-17-2017, 05:34 PM
I just pulled Kuroda Kanbei from the gacha and was reviewing her skills. I think shock trooper would work best with the lifesteal. Does anyone know the place to get that upgrade?

I just got her too. Her INT damage bonus is "INT difference * level/5" or x7 at level 35. Max 500 damage. So I'm actually thinking make her use Cannons to maximize the damage bonus. It looks like she only life steals one target though. I wonder if Nun would be nice for extra life steal.

SilverFox
04-17-2017, 06:03 PM
I turned my Kuroda into a personal guard and put on some intelligence equipment. I guess I was thinking regen tank when I looked at her skills.

I'm not sure what to do with Tiger of Kai's skill's "Tiger of kai" and "Takeda Shingen". Says I need to lead a light cavalry.

1. Does this work on herself? Left side of the tree seems appropriate for her.
2. Will I lose the skill if I upgrade light cavalry to crimson or black rider?

Unregistered
04-17-2017, 06:05 PM
Hey guys. For the most part I have been guessing how to set up my troops. I made Tiger of kai a crimson raider. I have oda nobunaga as a veteran musketeer. Some of my other units might not have the best synergy but the problem I have is Toyotomi hideyoshi.

I was wondering which unit best fits her. Also, is there a wiki that shows the best units a general plays as somewhere? I couldn't find any

Bruceski
04-17-2017, 06:17 PM
Other than (UC)Inaba Ittetsu, are there any characters I should hang onto specifically for campaign star requirements?

Selius
04-17-2017, 06:49 PM
Hey guys. For the most part I have been guessing how to set up my troops. I made Tiger of kai a crimson raider. I have oda nobunaga as a veteran musketeer. Some of my other units might not have the best synergy but the problem I have is Toyotomi hideyoshi.

I was wondering which unit best fits her. Also, is there a wiki that shows the best units a general plays as somewhere? I couldn't find any

she'd make a good lancer. cavalry > heavy cavalry > lancer

also: protip: anytime someone's skill reads hideyoshi hashiba it actually means toyotomi hideyoshi

pairing her with nene powers up both. and nene is a very damn good unit overall. since she's rare getting her to 4 stars is much easier than most. 15% regen is seriously good stuff

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 07:17 PM
Am I misinterpreting the usage of the word "leading" in skill descriptions (because of poor translation team) or does it mean to set the unit as a leader of the specify unit type?

Mori Motonari has a skill that says she can attack 1 extra unit "when leading archer unit". Mines a Marksman but not a leader and yet still hits 4 targets despite marksman ability only hits 3 targets. So is "leading" in skill descriptions simply meant to mean "have class set to"?

Hyohmaru
04-17-2017, 08:03 PM
Am I misinterpreting the usage of the word "leading" in skill descriptions (because of poor translation team) or does it mean to set the unit as a leader of the specify unit type?

Mori Motonari has a skill that says she can attack 1 extra unit "when leading archer unit". Mines a Marksman but not a leader and yet still hits 4 targets despite marksman ability only hits 3 targets. So is "leading" in skill descriptions simply meant to mean "have class set to"?When is only said "leading" it means Leader of all generals. When it says "leading X unit" it means the class. Since Marksman's base class is Archer she still got the bonus, except Crossbow as said in the skill description.

When the skill says Archer/Infantry/Cavalry/Ronin it means that it will trigger with any sub-class under that three. Other skills will ask for specific classes like Tiger Shingen asks for Light Cavalry and Luis Fróis asks for Miko/Nuns

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 08:07 PM
Such a poor choice of wording on the translation team side then. They could have simple stated "When x class" instead of "When leading x unit". Using 'leading' only led me to believe I had to have the unit as leader as well as the specified unit class. Well at least that opens up more possibilities for me that all they simply need to do is be that unit.

Unregistered
04-17-2017, 08:16 PM
I have hohjo Ujiyasu. I was wondering if there is a good unit to match her. She as 2 skills that increase damage, one of them increases damage over time. Another skill that randomly brings back 1-25 percent manpower. She has higher power and leadership.

Knave
04-17-2017, 08:42 PM
Anyone know the drop rate for the dungeon scroll in the Oda battle? I have done it like 15 times and have only gotten coins. getting aggravated at this point.

Selius
04-17-2017, 08:43 PM
Such a poor choice of wording on the translation team side then. They could have simple stated "When x class" instead of "When leading x unit". Using 'leading' only led me to believe I had to have the unit as leader as well as the specified unit class. Well at least that opens up more possibilities for me that all they simply need to do is be that unit.

dude, the entire game is google translated. there is no translation team. if you google trans the dmm wiki

https :// mononohu. gamerch. com/ %E3%82%88%E3%81%8F%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E8%B3%AA%E5%9 5%8F

you will see the exact same text in 95% of the skill boxes.

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 08:48 PM
That's quite a surprise. To think there's a game even more poorly translated than Brave Girl Raven.

Astasia
04-17-2017, 09:39 PM
What I'm saying is she would probably one shot it even if she wasn't a crimson rider. Her skill makes her damage gamebreaking. So instead of spending the first turn to 1shot something you already would even without going Crimson Rider (CR), why not go Black Rider (BR) and make it 1 turn to 1 shot 2 enemies or nearly kill 2 enemies instead?

CR's skill only works on the first turn and the additional bonus only works on enemy archers, which you're unlikely to hit as they're generally placed behind units. Unless Crimson Rider can bypass front line defense? BR on the other hand becomes a archer and can attack any unit.

In terms of calculations, in regular form, CR does 125% dmg on first turn (145% on archers) then reverts back to 100%. BR does 60% x 2 forever. 5% less but then you compare their elite forms it becomes 135% (165% archers) vs 80% x 2, 25% more for BR on all but archers and not just a single turn. Let's not forget higher base SPD and ATK, with SPD being extremely important as without it being higher than the enemy, you won't even be doing 350% damage in the first place.

So unless there's a hidden factor I'm not seeing, more scenarios seem to fall towards the advantage of Tiger Kai going BR.

There's two things.

Archer damage is usually pretty crippled by defense, damage is being split and basically getting hit twice by defense checks. From what I can tell defense is a percentage based reduction based on the difference between the attack value and defense value. IE with 1000 attack against 1000 defense it might be like 500 damage done, with 1250 attack and 1000 defense it might be closer to 800 damage done, and with 750 attack against 1000 defense it might be something like 200 damage done. I haven't done enough testing to figure out the formula so those numbers are just made up, but that's the general trend I have noticed with damage. It makes archers in general pretty terrible unless the unit has unique skills that greatly benefit them.

The second thing, is that I'm noticing the game likes to throw cannons at you in the hardest content. Just nothing but 4-5 cannons with stupidly OP stats that hit all of your units every turn. It's just begging to be countered with Crimson Riders.

Tiger of Kai can absolutely make Black Rider "work" in most content though, it has a high enough attack that damage isn't reduced too much usually, and against easier stuff it will be two one-shots on the first turn which is nice, against harder content though it wont be close to one-shots. I've seen a few people running Black Riders in replays on the harder content, it works, but doesn't seem nearly as OP as the Crimson Riders. I don't have the unit though so again I'm just basing it off a bunch of replays I've seen.


Anyone know the drop rate for the dungeon scroll in the Oda battle? I have done it like 15 times and have only gotten coins. getting aggravated at this point.

I did the stage 50 times the other day and got 2 scrolls and 1 weapon.

buddy22
04-17-2017, 11:18 PM
Quick question for the newbie support bag how long was it good for mine vanished at lvl 10? Heard on some discord channels they said it was lvl 35 not sure if thats true or not.

Unregistered
04-17-2017, 11:37 PM
So wait, if the party's defense is the actual defense team then I should be be equipping the offensive team's armor solely for whatever skill is listed on it?

And skills that boost defense are really boosting the defense team? Why bother listing defense of the offensive team during battle?

Sorry for the dumb questions. I feel like I got something wrong here.

Aidoru
04-17-2017, 11:55 PM
After some tests after no response asking the same question, it seems the defense team is simply the team other players fight in ranked matches. Nothing to do with gaining bonus defense or whatever. So just make sure to swap your main team to defense before you log off if you don't have a proper team for it. Unless you don't care then do whatever.

BarbatosZaku
04-18-2017, 12:40 AM
Who are the demons of Tokugawa? i know Tadahatsu

Unregistered
04-18-2017, 12:45 AM
I have two SSR evolve cards and i'm not sure in what girls use them. my current team is Oda Nobunaga, Kuroda Kanbei , Mori Motonari, Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Kuroda and Mori seems to hit harder than the rest, also if any of you has Mori and is using archers troops , is worth to change her troops to archer in order to use his third skill? My Mori has been level 30 for awhile but i've been reluctant to change her from cavalry to archer as it's seems like archers are pretty weak overall.

Selius
04-18-2017, 03:03 AM
I have two SSR evolve cards and i'm not sure in what girls use them. my current team is Oda Nobunaga, Kuroda Kanbei , Mori Motonari, Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Kuroda and Mori seems to hit harder than the rest, also if any of you has Mori and is using archers troops , is worth to change her troops to archer in order to use his third skill? My Mori has been level 30 for awhile but i've been reluctant to change her from cavalry to archer as it's seems like archers are pretty weak overall.

how the hell did you get them O_O i want them

Hyohmaru
04-18-2017, 06:02 AM
There's two things.
The second thing, is that I'm noticing the game likes to throw cannons at you in the hardest content. Just nothing but 4-5 cannons with stupidly OP stats that hit all of your units every turn. It's just begging to be countered with Crimson Riders.

Tiger of Kai can absolutely make Black Rider "work" in most content though, it has a high enough attack that damage isn't reduced too much usually, and against easier stuff it will be two one-shots on the first turn which is nice, against harder content though it wont be close to one-shots. I've seen a few people running Black Riders in replays on the harder content, it works, but doesn't seem nearly as OP as the Crimson Riders. I don't have the unit though so again I'm just basing it off a bunch of replays I've seen.

I did the stage 50 times the other day and got 2 scrolls and 1 weapon.The Archers, even my Tiger Shingen, only works in its Elite form. And even so I prefer cannons. Archers have no place in the game right now. Why attacking 2~3 if you can attack 5?

About the hard stages with cannons, use Heavy Knights to counter. I have 4 Heavy Knights and they take almost no damage. AoE Reduction skills



Does anybody know when/how can we unlock artifacts?
Oh... It's probably some level of the port which I've been neglecting until now...

Yuki
04-18-2017, 06:40 AM
Is there any stage where one can farm class changes ?

Hyohmaru
04-18-2017, 07:06 AM
hahah just spent 3000 kobans (didn't buy any, got them from easter chest LOL and farm) on that new event buying Large Chests... I was trying to go for UR and armor but ALL my tries gave me 2 Platinum tickets that gave me SR units hahahahahah dafuq


Is there any stage where one can farm class changes ?Several. But the best one is CH2 - Alternate History - Horn of Counter Attack. All the scrolls can be found there, to the third class, not the Elite.

Unregistered
04-18-2017, 07:20 AM
how the hell did you get them O_O i want them
There is a chance of gettimg them from the gacha , check the content of the gachas and you will see them.

Hyohmaru
04-18-2017, 08:35 AM
Seriously the game is very buggy right now. I even sent a ticket and they said they are "aware" of that... Most of the skills are not processing correctly. My Luís Fróis is not recovering damage even being a NUN and her third skill is not even triggering...

Aidoru
04-18-2017, 08:42 AM
The Archers, even my Tiger Shingen, only works in its Elite form. And even so I prefer cannons. Archers have no place in the game right now. Why attacking 2~3 if you can attack 5?

About the hard stages with cannons, use Heavy Knights to counter. I have 4 Heavy Knights and they take almost no damage. AoE Reduction skills


That makes absolutely no sense at all since Tiger Kai needs to be Light Calvary. The discussion was about her going Crimson or Black Rider, going cannons with her is meaningless unless this is just another shitty translation error by Nutaku.

Regardless, people who use Tiger Kai most likely went with Temple, meaning focusing on left side unit build.

Hyohmaru
04-18-2017, 09:29 AM
That makes absolutely no sense at all since Tiger Kai needs to be Light Calvary. The discussion was about her going Crimson or Black Rider, going cannons with her is meaningless unless this is just another shitty translation error by Nutaku.

Regardless, people who use Tiger Kai most likely went with Temple, meaning focusing on left side unit build.hahaha you misunderstood what I said. Of course Tiger Shingen has to be light cavalry and this is the case with mine. What I said there is that even so I prefer CANNONS over ARCHERS... not talking about Tiger Shingen, I'm talking in general, cannons can attack the whole enemy team. And about Tiger Shingen, I found my CR way better than my BR... just went back to CR again... Having one less enemy to deal in the first turn makes everything much easier, even with the buff ending in the second turn, Shingen BR has to deal with defense reducing his potential damage and giving the chance for the enemy to counter attack with 5 units. Well, again, that's my opinion and what I've tested playing so far ^^ already made Shingen CR, BR and now CR again.

Bruceski
04-18-2017, 09:54 AM
Farmed up 10 platinum fragments from the starter dungeon, they're not automatically turning into anything as advertised.

Arkinum
04-18-2017, 11:20 AM
Tried this game for a few hours. It's not bad, and I kind of like the change of pace from the usual click-to-grind kind of game.

I found out that the auto complete is locked behind a pay wall, which is pretty much a major turnoff for me.

The artwork is elegant and consistent, but kind of lacks that "feeling" I'm going for, and kind of comes off too soft core. This is probably due to the strong yuri vibe this game gives off, due to making the PC a trap.

I'll give a +1 for innovation in trying a new angle for game type and PC role.

I probably won't be staying with it though.

Aidoru
04-18-2017, 11:35 AM
Auto Complete? You mean the fast forward button on the top? You can get those several ways in-game as a free player.

Hyohmaru
04-18-2017, 11:50 AM
Tried this game for a few hours. It's not bad, and I kind of like the change of pace from the usual click-to-grind kind of game.

I found out that the auto complete is locked behind a pay wall, which is pretty much a major turnoff for me.

The artwork is elegant and consistent, but kind of lacks that "feeling" I'm going for, and kind of comes off too soft core. This is probably due to the strong yuri vibe this game gives off, due to making the PC a trap.

I'll give a +1 for innovation in trying a new angle for game type and PC role.

I probably won't be staying with it though.

if auto complete you mean the fast tickets, you can farm it and you don't even need, just click to attack and refresh your page :) the fight is calculated in the moment you started and even the reward is calculated that moment. So what I've been doing is just starting and refreshing my page when the fight takes too long.

Arkinum
04-18-2017, 12:08 PM
@Aidoru

Yes that's what I'm referring to. And farming FF tickets kind of defeats the purpose IMO -_-

@Hyohmaru

That's a helpful trick. Thanks for sharing it.

Unregistered
04-18-2017, 12:20 PM
how the hell did you get them O_O i want them

You can get those from the gacha or defeating the Demong king of the 6 heavens in the starting dungeon(you have only 3 tries per day and you need to defeat Honda tadakatsu to unlock tihs fight) there may be other encounters that drop it but i have not been able to find them.

Hyohmaru
04-18-2017, 12:20 PM
That's a helpful trick. Thanks for sharing it.No problem buddy. Save your fast tickets to Event Bosses

Sivertop
04-18-2017, 12:47 PM
hey together im quite new to the game as many others are also...I got a lot of new Characters which seem quite strong as i saw here in this thread..

i just got 3 questions:

First: Which Character-Combinations are currently the best in terms of pve (maybe even pve/pvp)

Second: Do i lose my progression from Church when switching to Temple?

Third: Does it even make sense to try to hit something when looting? or is it always random? Sometimes i have the feeling its just a waste of time


for the first question: I got almost every SSR/SR Character in my pocket, UR i got Echigo, Demon, Tohsho and Luis.


Right now i have a rather weak combination of Yamagata Masakage, Oda Nobunaga, Uesugi Kenshin, Date Nami and Kuroda Kanbei in my Attack, i know there are better options but i dont want to waste my large exp scrolls on every Character, also since some Skills are badly translated as most of u say i dont even know where to start...so i thought maybe some of u guys know some of the "best" combinations..yes "best" is a harsh word since it also depends on other stuff.

I hope someone can help me with that..

WonderWaffle
04-18-2017, 12:48 PM
the heck do you unlock the hidden dungeons for each chapter (except prologue, found that one)

Nitty
04-18-2017, 12:57 PM
Warning: Some SSR evolution tickets are actually UR evolution tickets. They show up correctly in the right panel of the evolution window.

You don't lose anything switching between church/temple.
Looting is random, hitting the button just speeds it up.

Some dungeons unlock when you to beat all the battles in previous dungeons (1-star). Some battles require you to get stars to unlock. The progress bar in the top left shows how many battles you've unlocked.

Unregistered
04-18-2017, 01:31 PM
Warning: Some SSR evolution tickets are actually UR evolution tickets. They show up correctly in the right panel of the evolution window.

You don't lose anything switching between church/temple.
Looting is random, hitting the button just speeds it up.

Some dungeons unlock when you to beat all the battles in previous dungeons (1-star). Some battles require you to get stars to unlock. The progress bar in the top left shows how many battles you've unlocked.

wish i saw that i used a UR evo ticket without realizing it on Hanbei

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Loot is determined at the start of battle. You can see this for yourself in the starter's dungeon with the stage that gives large exp cards/fast battle tickets. Start that battle; if you see your number of fast battle tickets stay the same, that means you're getting 3 or 4 large exp cards. If you see the number go up by 1 or 2, then you picked up 1 or 2 more tickets that battle. So the roulette after battle is purely cosmetic.

Sivertop
04-18-2017, 01:42 PM
thx for ur asnwers regarding the loot-system...now i only have to stay relaxed until someone have some hints regarding Character-Combinations..

Right now i try to read all these skills myself but when finished with 5-6 Characters im forgetting about the Skills of the previous ones :O its hard with 42 characters each having 3 skills..except for 4 which are uc and r

SilverFox
04-18-2017, 03:12 PM
Tiger of Kai's "Takeda Shingen" activates on herself.

"Leading a light cavalry" doesn't mean she has to be a leader.

The branches underneath light cavalry also apply (I used crimson and elite crimson rider).

...In case you wanted to know.

BarbatosZaku
04-18-2017, 03:41 PM
The Light bow and Mummei weapons are strongers than tachi?