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inferno1337
08-12-2016, 03:34 PM
Hey there, I just reached level 40 and would like to have your advice on what to upgrade since I do not know how common the high end items are. I am guessing I should only upgrade +7..+10 stuff? And also only those of the highest rarity of its class (3* Bracelet, 4* Ring etc)? Should I always sacrifice 10 items at once or is it OK to use just a few items? Is there ever a need to upgrade stuff of lower rarity but with a high +value?

Are these items good enough to upgrade or should I wait until I get stuff with +7 or higher?
- 3* Bracelet +4
- 4* Ring +3

Thanks!

Ramazan
08-12-2016, 03:39 PM
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Flower-Knight-Girl/FKG:Equipment

First you should always upgrade mid-tier (silver) equipment which is mostly warriors ring, earring and above (gold) and always use low tier and bronze ones as fodder. Yeah always (try to) sacrifice 10 equipments at once since its cheaper in the end. Dont bother with bracelets and amulets like i said, just go level warriors ring and earring if possible.

inferno1337
08-12-2016, 03:47 PM
OK, but a bronze +9 ring has 400 attack while a silver +10 earring has 200 attack. Why should I upgrade the earring except of course if everyone already has a fully upgraded ring?

Edit: Ah never mind. I am guessing that at some point I will be replacing the bronze rings with silver ones anyway, so upgrading them is a waste.

Unregistered
08-12-2016, 04:16 PM
At first, you'll just put all mid-grade equipment as a priority over all low-grade equipment. Doesn't matter much which ones you use, because you probably have other things you need to use your gold on. Then when you build up a big enough supply of mid-grade equips you can start prioritizing within them.

The items, in order of power addition, are: ring, bracelet, earrings, necklace. The gaps between each type are big, so it's seldom appropriate to deviate unless you want to bulk up all attack or all defense for some reason.

Personally, the only worn equips I ever upgrade are +10s. Eventually all of the ones you use will be +10 so you don't want to waste gold and XP in lesser equips for what is really a marginal gain early on. I do 'bank' XP in lower equips to save space by upgrading them once with one equip of the same type to get them to lvl 8-11. This also lets me upgrade a new +10 to lvl 30 in one shot and at a much lower total gold cost than half-stepping it with lvl 1 equips. Gold will become less scarce as you play, but the equipment inventory space is still a huge reason to keep on doing this.

Mystic
08-12-2016, 05:27 PM
Always look for the most efficient way to level equipment. Doing so will save a lot of time, equipment and coins. I have created an image showing the most efficient way to max a silver equipment [ring]. PM me on the discord if you want more help, im almost always on there, rarely here.

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Myrdin
08-13-2016, 03:18 AM
I only upgrade High Tier equipment of Rarity 9+
Its expensive and takes a long time to do, so anything less than lvl 9 item is not worth the trouble.
Also I used to have all my girls equipped but with the way the game is set up, and the items are not "taken out" of your communal inventory, I had to unequip all non-active knights.

Normally in any game that has inventory you have "active" and "Passive" - passive is the one where you carry stuff, active is the one where you equip stuff. When equipping item, it gets moved from INVENTORY into EQUIPMENT (any RPG, Crafting and Survival game out there). This game is an exception (a stupid one at that) that ANY equipped item is still counted as part of the inventory, thus it still counts towards the maximum number of items you can have.
With that being said - equip only your active girls, otherwise you will soon run out of space, and with no space you cant roll for new - maybe better Rarity - equipment.

Drip
08-13-2016, 03:46 AM
The *only* things I upgrade are the lvl 10 silver ones and the personal earrings. Why upgrade a lvl 9 when it's going to be replaced with a lvl 10 eventually? So I rather upgrade a lvl 10 necklace than a lvl 9 ring. And I have far from enough spare jewelry to upgrade all my lvl 10 jewelry, so it's not hard to "only level what I won't replace".

Upgrading a necklace with spare necklaces and upgrading rings with spare rings boosts them a bit better, but just boosting a single piece with whatever 10 spare pieces you have is more cost efficient. I tend to go for the median of that. If most of my spare pieces are rings, I use it to upgrade a ring. If most of my spare pieces are wristbands, I use them to upgrade a wristband.

Mystic
08-13-2016, 06:06 AM
I've made a a guide based on my experiences with equipment leveling and after researching different ways for each equipment. I only focused on what i thought was important (RIP earring). Take it with a grain of salt or treat it as a trusty page to follow.
And this is my current ring collection
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/13/X3t78x.png

inferno1337
08-13-2016, 05:41 PM
Ok, thank you for your input everyone.

As a final question, is there a noticable XP loss for 'banking' items? If not it doesn't really matter how you upgrade stuff as you never lose XP. You can then simply sacrifice your previousy upgraded crap item whenever you get +10 items.

Mystic
08-13-2016, 06:45 PM
Is 'banking' items adding a lot of lv 1 to the same equipment?
IIRC 'banking' a bracelet requires around 19-20 bracelets from level 1
ie. LV 1 + 10* LV 1 = LV 22 [10 x lv 1 upgrade cost]
LV 22 + 9 or 10* LV 1 = LV 30 [9 or 10 x lv 22 upgrade cost]

However if you dont 'bank' and combine equipment like in the guides you can save exp and coins
Back to the bracelet example
Make 8 Lv 1 + Lv 1 = Lv 10 or 11(if you get a great synthesis success) [8 x lv 1 upgrade cost]
Lv 1 + 7* LV 10 & 1 Lv 11 = Lv 30 [8 x lv 1 upgrade cost]

As you can see the bottom method, it is cheaper in terms of upgrade cost, as all you leveling is done at level 1 and not at lv 22. Also we are only using 16 bracelets to max it as opposed to dumbly sending 10 at a time all level 1 into the desired equipment which would need around 20 bracelets.

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Make em like this

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/14/MsbdD0x.png

Astasia
08-14-2016, 01:05 AM
I think most of this advice is great for endgame players, but is kind of beyond a fresh level 40 player. I wouldn't worry about waiting for +10 warrior rings, they could be weeks or months away, upgrading whatever you have at the time helps a lot. Don't try to max level any of it, but throwing 10 junk items onto +4 warrior rings or defense bracelets will be a nice, and cheap, boost in power.

inferno1337
08-14-2016, 05:27 AM
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Make 8 Lv 1 + Lv 1 = Lv 10 or 11(if you get a great synthesis success) [8 x lv 1 upgrade cost]
Lv 1 + 7* LV 10 & 1 Lv 11 = Lv 30 [8 x lv 1 upgrade cost]
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Wow thats nifty. It will also allow me to 'upgrade' my crappy stuff (though just to Lv 10) without a second thought until I don't need them anymore. Just as Astasia said, for now I still have to use the medicore stuff.

After testing it a bit, it seems that the amount of sacrificed items is just as important as their level:
- Lv 1 + 2 x Lv 20 = Lv 21 (sacrificed: 22 x Lv 1)
- Lv 1 + 1 x Lv 20 + 9 x Lv 1 = Lv 25 (sacrificed: 21 x Lv 1)

This would mean that the most effective upgrade method is to create throw-away items with such a level, that you will need exactly 10 of them to max a high end level item in one try. Looking at your example that would be level 9 / 10 items for a final level 30. Understood! :)

Btw. would the same principle hold for upgrading the girls level using 2* girls as an alternative to manyus? Just combine 2* girls to level 8 and then fuse them with other high level girls? Or is it still not worth the coin cost?

Mystic
08-15-2016, 09:58 AM
Since you seemed to have use for my previous example, here is a guide i made, which explains what i do with my equipment. Do keep in mind that you have just started and this is mainly for those who want to learn how to upgrade all equipment and have a lot of seeds or equipment laying around. In the guide i didn't make an earring guide, but it should be the same as the warrior ring's, just swap the rings to be earrings.

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/14/k1h0q.png

Happy Upgrading

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Feels good out right maxing a warrior ring after going through 23 of the crappy ones (0-9). Just need four more to have all my flower knights equipped! :D

saberlance
08-15-2016, 02:05 PM
Thanks for the guide! Looks like you put a lot of work into it, not to mention the testing to figure it out.

I'm one of those players that's been stockpiling seeds, so I will definitely make use of this.

Zandel
08-15-2016, 09:44 PM
Just a note to save more money then what Mystic has posted... be patient and only upgrade equipment with the same type of equipment. Use rings on rings, bracelets on bracelets etc. Doing that will save you so much more then not. Requires a lot less equipment as well.

Mystic
08-15-2016, 10:08 PM
I don't know Zandel, silver equipment are a lot more rare than the bronze counterpart. Also, combining two lvl 1 silver rings brings it to lv 9 instead of lv 10. If you want to use ring on rings, you would need at least over 38 silver rings. (38 silver rings makes 19 lv 9 rings which isn't enough to make lv 40) Also it comes with the added problem of left over bronze equipment if you stick to rings on rings. Personally i have over 32 +10 bracelets compared to 16 +10 rings.

A japanese wiki supposed this to be the rates of mid-level equipment gacha.
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/16/j2Lc4.png

We would need to use excess bronze equipment somewhere.
I'm only following this guide which works best for me.
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/16/szMJ9Iqn.png

Sourced from : http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment

Unregistered
08-18-2016, 06:40 AM
I don't know Zandel, silver equipment are a lot more rare than the bronze counterpart. Also, combining two lvl 1 silver rings brings it to lv 9 instead of lv 10. If you want to use ring on rings, you would need at least over 38 silver rings. (38 silver rings makes 19 lv 9 rings which isn't enough to make lv 40) Also it comes with the added problem of left over bronze equipment if you stick to rings on rings. Personally i have over 32 +10 bracelets compared to 16 +10 rings.

A japanese wiki supposed this to be the rates of mid-level equipment gacha.
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/16/j2Lc4.png

We would need to use excess bronze equipment somewhere.
I'm only following this guide which works best for me.
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/16/szMJ9Iqn.png

Sourced from : http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment




Well, it is this kind of information in the Japanese version?

https://t.co/zFWbwoLCkf

Mystic
08-21-2016, 05:55 AM
Well, it is this kind of information in the Japanese version?

https://t.co/zFWbwoLCkf

Thats could definitely be a better version - uses less coins, uses earrings as well. Might switch to that but it might be a bit confusing for me T_T.
So many different ways to make it

For comparison
fkgblog - http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hallowfine-fkg/imgs/b/6/b6dbfcdf.jpg
35 Bronzes
15 Earrings
15 Rings
~48k Coins

Previous guide - http://harem-battle.club/attachment.php?attachmentid=1670&d=1471040825
38 Bronzes
19 Rings
~55k Coins

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http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/08/21/PNIAYlZTvV.png

GotLoveForAll
05-31-2017, 11:14 PM
So I throw away all my green equipment instead of feeding them into my bronze?

Largepotato
06-01-2017, 07:08 AM
So I throw away all my green equipment instead of feeding them into my bronze?

That's the min/max way when you have loads of equipment seeds.

You can still use them as initial feeding fodder on lvl 1 bronze & silver equips.

Maladaptive
07-21-2017, 12:34 PM
Anyone have a guide for the best way to level up Event Bracelets up to L50?

GotLoveForAll
07-31-2017, 04:06 AM
Are we able to lock equipment? Or is the only way to equip to a girl?

paraphin
07-31-2017, 05:26 AM
Are we able to lock equipment? Or is the only way to equip to a girl?

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Volarmis
07-31-2017, 05:35 AM
Are we able to lock equipment? Or is the only way to equip to a girl?

Go to the screen where you can lock girls and click the "Equipment" button there.
You will be able to lock equipment.

mega94all
07-31-2017, 05:49 PM
Aside from equip manyus?
try this :

http://i.imgur.com/fAKgaqJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qkO51Dk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ONRP0Es.jpg

*bit late for equipment but better than nothing :rolleyes:

Maladaptive
08-01-2017, 04:12 AM
Aside from equip manyus?
try this :

http://i.imgur.com/fAKgaqJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qkO51Dk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ONRP0Es.jpg

*bit late for equipment but better than nothing :rolleyes:

Thanks so much for this! Been hoping someone would reply to my request from last week :)