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Lafate
01-18-2016, 07:33 AM
Hello boys and girls, It seems the devs are back to going out of order once again... or skipping... can't be all to sure. However, lets not focus on that. Welcome to Ninja Army of Darkness. Rope won't be enough to capture a kunoichi so you better have something else in the wings.

ETA: 19/1/201

Rewards

http://i.gyazo.com/74f5dd0c73214429087b40911694c017.png
Introducing Azami.... Well... I honestly don't know what to say about her knowing what I do. If you are lacking a Ninja she would be able to serve as one temporarily. Just... Poor Azami is out shined by Saki who is literally always in the Trading Post.


Noted enemy stats

Ashigaru
http://i.gyazo.com/178d863c94c1245e60d2c0a47338b1dc.png
Attack type: Physical Melee
HP: 1200 (Ninja of Darkness), 1200 (Ninja Again), 1350 (Heaven Flying Technique), 1500 (Art of Numbing Poison)
Atk: 160 (Ninja of Darkness), 160 (Ninja Again), 180 (Heaven Flying Technique), 200 (Art of Numbing Poison)
Def: 100
MR: 10

Sanosuke
http://gyazo.com/050c5099c94a77b8d83c501c7a4ab12b.png
Attack type: Physical Melee
HP: 6000 (Art of Numbing Poison), 7200 (True Meaning of the Shinobi X), 6900 (Dance of Tentacles G)
Atk: 400 (Art of Numbing Poison), 480 (True Meaning of the Shinobi X), 460 (Dance of Tentacles G)
Def: 200
MR: 10

Ninja
http://i.gyazo.com/8e6a43a04ee3b7fb2d2010a9ef565fe4.png
Attack type: Physical Ranged
HP: -
Atk: 190
Def: -
MR: -

Flying Squirrel Ninja
http://i.gyazo.com/02012dba6a8830522fbcb0c75ce97699.png
Attack type: Flying
HP: Estimated 10
Atk: -
Def: -
MR: -

Paralysis Ninja
http://i.gyazo.com/71b38f64e9dd2cfd7916fb0642ff3099.png
Attack type: Physical Ranged
HP: -
Atk: 200
Def: -
MR: -

Ninja Master
http://i.gyazo.com/4389d4cc820f25b4d5109112eaea818b.png
Attack type: Physical Ranged
HP: 2700 (Heaven Flying Technique), 3000 (Art of Numbing Poison), 3000 (True Meaning of the Shinobi X), 3450 (Dance of Tentacles G)
Atk: 450
Def: 30
MR: 10

Azami
http://gyazo.com/445cbba4c7df73386b94adf5bfaa6040.png
Attack type: Physical Ranged
HP: 7000 (True Meaning of the Shinobi X)
Atk: 250, 450 Blocked/225 Not Blocked (Skill)
Def: 100
MR: 10

Roper
http://i.gyazo.com/e4e064a3c2f1c4f09b74d3f12a32a3c0.png
Attack type: Physical Melee
HP: 6325 (Dance of Tentacles G)
Atk: 11 (Dance of Tentacles G)
Def: 100
MR: 15
Note: Causes Paralysis


Maps

Darkness of Ninja

Charisma: 20
Stamina: 1
Experience: 150
Gold at 3☆: 750
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 15
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDQRa2CYWLE
Drops: http://i.gyazo.com/b0245db1186b7a2690e2961ca4b7ff96.pnghttp://i.gyazo.com/8246182e94eff736120d057bf00bfc17.pnghttp://i.gyazo.com/57478165529f8ece296d164afddb7d51.png


Ninja Again

Charisma: 30
Stamina: 2
Experience: 300
Gold at 3☆: 1125
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 19
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjXSgOLNXL8
Drops: http://i.gyazo.com/b0245db1186b7a2690e2961ca4b7ff96.pnghttp://i.gyazo.com/871cbc0d03385218e79e77ceb0705430.pnghttp://i.gyazo.com/619ceb5c209ee18e6b86916caae7aea6.pnghttp://i.gyazo.com/57478165529f8ece296d164afddb7d51.png


Heaven Flying Technique

Charisma: 40
Stamina: 3
Experience: 350
Gold at 3☆: 1500
Initial Unit Points: 15
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 48
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84rzJBSv-sk
Drops: http://i.gyazo.com/b0245db1186b7a2690e2961ca4b7ff96.pnghttp://gyazo.com/6a691ab730c01ecfe096c1443a1c90ae.pnghttp://i.gyazo.com/619ceb5c209ee18e6b86916caae7aea6.png(Two Drops)


Art of Numbing Poison

Charisma: 50
Stamina: 5
Experience: 400
Gold at 3☆: 2250
Initial Unit Points: 20
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 42
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYrLp-ZMcKY
Drops: http://i.gyazo.com/b0245db1186b7a2690e2961ca4b7ff96.pnghttps://i.gyazo.com/9498ffaa45c4840647496106c17643a8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/5inTqvv.png(Three Drops)http://gyazo.com/5cdbc225c4a5832c2f60aa7f43f73df8.png


True Meaning of the Shinobi X

Charisma: 70
Stamina: 7
Experience: 500
Gold at 3☆: 4500
Initial Unit Points: 30
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 53
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOBEx02inY
Drops: http://i.gyazo.com/b0245db1186b7a2690e2961ca4b7ff96.pnghttp://i.gyazo.com/4d74e9e5efdebb5a52caca572d3962ae.pnghttp://gyazo.com/05992bd6ac72085401ad766fae796c81.pnghttp://gyazo.com/5cdbc225c4a5832c2f60aa7f43f73df8.png


Dance of Tentacles G

Charisma: 100
Stamina: 2
Experience: 200
Gold at 3☆: 1500
Initial Unit Points: 40
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 10
Number of Enemies: 75
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6EASmQXJTQ
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/dYkR9W8x.pnghttp://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/pWd9kzfFi.pnghttp://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/dy05hw.png
Completion Reward:http://gyazo.com/5cdbc225c4a5832c2f60aa7f43f73df8.png



Comments about the event

Well this is a skippable event if there ever was one. Besides Saki in the trading post. There is another black ninja you will get from an event. There is virtually no point at which you would need to use Azami, and if you happen to have Hina then you can take that virtually away and make it 100% no chance of use. It is pretty much Charlotte all over again... but at least Charlotte had some use over Horace.

However, Azami can do something for you besides warming the bed. She has the same skill as Saki so you know what that means... well I hope you do... if you don't it means go ahead and max out Saki's skill. Best part is you can farm her and get her at level 10 already so no leveling needs to be done on your part. Just toss in some Iron/Bronze fairies from the Gold Rush and boom! Tons of experience and skill for your Saki. However, I will say if you aren't lucky don't bother trying to go 5/5 and just go 4/5. That last skill is only a 5% chance. So I'd really just try to get the last point with Rainbow fairies.


Spotlight Units

http://gyazo.com/fe27c89c30680db2e09a5d3ecc04eb30.png
Platinum Ninja Hina

http://i.gyazo.com/7bd77885c4e0139f212bb7c96feaff22.png
Gold Samurai Chizuru


New Characters Arriving

Note: This is based off of current JP version stats. We may not get the same if we get a previous version of the units, but they will eventually get to this point.

Ninja Azami

http://i.gyazo.com/c8821da69c9fb3c56ed9e89e4325cb6d.png
HP: 1358 (1497 Awakened)
Atk: 312 (336 Awakened)
Def: 303 (336 Awakened)
MR: 0
Block: 1 (200 Range)
Cost: 15 (13 Awakened)
Skill: She has a 50% chance to dodge an attack for 20 seconds. In addition for the duration she has a 10% chance to instantly kill her target. WT: 15, CT: 30
Ability: -
Awakened Skill: -
Awakened Ability: Her attacks have a 10% chance to instantly kill her target.


Wandering Sword Arts Practitioner Chizuru

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/5c9eed5870672f8f.png
HP: 2523 (3337 Awakened)
Atk: 551 (731 Awakened)
Def: 162 (206 Awakened)
MR: 0
Block: 2 (3 Awakened)
Cost: 17 (20 Awakened)
Skill: She has an 80% chance to dodge ranged attacks for 30 seconds. WT: 20, CT: 30
Ability: -
Awakened Skill: For 30 seconds she reduces her block to 1, Attacks at range (240), and has a 80% chance to dodge ranged attacks. WT: 26.7, CT: 40
Awakened Ability: Increases her attack by 10%. [Already applies to listed stats]


Ninja Kagerou

http://gyazo.com/0aa4a9bcb408c77f971ed8cc07c88cb6.png
HP: 1090
Atk: 300
Def: 169
MR: 0
Block: 1 (200)
Cost: 12
Skill: For 20 seconds she has a 30% chance to dodge physical attacks. In addition for the duration she has a chance to instantly kill the target she is attacking. 40 sec WT, 40 sec CT.
Ability: -



New Classes Being Introduced

Nothing this time.

soranokira
01-18-2016, 08:07 AM
Now the dilemma: to use SC to expand box to store my Saki fodders, or to use SC to farm saki and use the saki fodders immediately.

Lafate
01-18-2016, 08:16 AM
Box will be worth it later.

Kamahari Akuma
01-18-2016, 08:53 AM
*Sees it is not Yurina*

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

*One sedation later*

Considering that Azami is just a plat version of Saki, its hard for me to figure out what to do for this event.

Completionism says to do the event as if there was no Saki in my barracks right now, because even if Azami is a plat Saki, 'technically' it is possibly easier to min cost Azami vs Saki. Assuming your Azami drops (what ones that do come your way, bloody 50/50) don't peter out on you, mincosting Azami is easy to do during the course of this event where in order to mincost Saki you need to shell out over 900 DCs or more depending on your luck to get Saki mincosted.

But cynicism is saying to screw Azami and have one of her around to say "yeah we have AN Azami", but then use all her doubles into Saki for free Skill lvs that saves us the use of Rainbow fairies to do the same albeit with worse odds.

And then we have the silver free farm. Assuming we don't get get jilted out of another event to get her, we can get Kagerou and add her to the never-ending harem at last. Not to also mention its free Sanosuke season as well if you're out for his blood (don't think I didn't notice Sophie's CC requirements).

So to say I'm torn is an understatement. I swear though if I go the first route and she gets mincosted after all my previous farm events after Shiho have failed to do the same, the Dead Sea will be fresh water compared to me.

soranokira
01-18-2016, 08:57 AM
So to say I'm torn is an understatement. I swear though if I go the first route and she gets mincosted after all my previous farm events after Shiho have failed to do the same, the Dead Sea will be fresh water compared to me.

Even if you do get her mincosted, there's event ninjas later on as well which you can get mincosted as well. and saki gets pretty awesome with skill AW, while azami has horrible stats among all the plats & blacks (and not much better than kagerou the silver ninja). and her AW ability isn't all that awesome either. I'm not even sure Azami can be considered a plat version of saki; their specs are just so different.
ninja comparison: http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A5%E6%A5%CB%A5%C3%A5%C8%2F%A5%AF%A5%E9%A5%B9%2F% C7%A6%BC%D4#unit_ninja

Kamahari Akuma
01-18-2016, 09:06 AM
Even if you do get her mincosted, there's event ninjas later on as well which you can get mincosted as well. and saki gets pretty awesome with skill AW, while azami has horrible stats among all the plats & blacks (and not much better than kagerou the silver ninja). and her AW ability isn't all that awesome either. I'm not even sure Azami can be considered a plat version of saki; their specs are just so different.

While that is true, until AW is a thing and we have those other units, I'm looking at them from their current versions that we have access to.

And it is depressing.

That and is it bad to admit that I'm not a fan of Azami's art design? At least Saki is trying to cover herself up...

MalusCorvus
01-18-2016, 10:12 AM
While that is true, until AW is a thing and we have those other units, I'm looking at them from their current versions that we have access to.

And it is depressing.

That and is it bad to admit that I'm not a fan of Azami's art design? At least Saki is trying to cover herself up...

A kindred spirit! Yeah, that "outfit" is so weird it almost offends both senses and reason. The hell is that panty design? And I've never been a fan of bras so skimpy they make it look like the wearer has no nipples, amongst which this takes the cake. Like, seriously.

Well, good news about this is I'll have a mincosted platinum unit. But I'm new enough that I've never gotten a duplicate of any other platinum unit so I can only look forward to that.

Pyonification
01-18-2016, 11:49 AM
*Looks at Checklist.. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iz40XQUxhRSPXl2bNT4tQoTuPsRzXzu-hzk22Rw02Wo/edit#gid=0).*
Ah! Holy carp, I need those Silver Samurais and a Silver Ninja!

If only Witches dropped for this too, I'd be golden.

Kamahari Akuma
01-18-2016, 01:29 PM
*Looks at Checklist.. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iz40XQUxhRSPXl2bNT4tQoTuPsRzXzu-hzk22Rw02Wo/edit#gid=0).*
Ah! Holy carp, I need those Silver Samurais and a Silver Ninja!

If only Witches dropped for this too, I'd be golden.

*Looks at Checklist*

*One case of the giggles later*

Do you mind if I keep this on hand? This made my day with how damn amusing with the commentary you have on it.

Pyonification
01-18-2016, 01:40 PM
*Looks at Checklist*

*One case of the giggles later*

Do you mind if I keep this on hand? This made my day with how damn amusing with the commentary you have on it.

I don't mind at all! I'm glad you enjoyed the commentary

I was planning on posting this in another thread because I do want feedback for it, but I'll ask when Awakening is closer to release.

gam
01-18-2016, 02:18 PM
Thanks for the guide.

But I cant help but grumble at the Nutaku devs. They pick up Aigis because of it's success, yet they continue to implement it in a weird inconsistent way. Oh well at least there is an event.

Kamahari Akuma
01-18-2016, 02:33 PM
Thanks for the guide.

But I cant help but grumble at the Nutaku devs. They pick up Aigis because of it's success, yet they continue to implement it in a weird inconsistent way. Oh well at least there is an event.

Inconsistent is a 'nice' way of putting it.

MalusCorvus
01-18-2016, 05:17 PM
I don't mind at all! I'm glad you enjoyed the commentary

I was planning on posting this in another thread because I do want feedback for it, but I'll ask when Awakening is closer to release.

The commentary is pretty great. If only I could be so spontaneously humorous!

namhoang909
01-19-2016, 01:51 AM
they always surprise me, just when i think that i've gotten enough charisma to do daily ->they maintain

soranokira
01-19-2016, 02:56 AM
they always surprise me, just when i think that i've gotten enough charisma to do daily ->they maintain

that's your own fault, they already announced maintenance. and hell, it always goes into maintenance at the same times.

edit: except for fucking DST issues.

namhoang909
01-19-2016, 02:59 AM
that's your own fault, they already announced maintenance. and hell, it always goes into maintenance at the same times.

edit: except for fucking DST issues.

ok my fault where can i see that announcement

soranokira
01-19-2016, 03:09 AM
ok my fault where can i see that announcement

http://i.imgur.com/FLjkF5I.png

Might as well mention that news always released 1 day before (when monday begins), and aside from a few exceptions, maintenance and events almost always starts on a tuesday.

Ligoya
01-19-2016, 03:54 AM
Well, Kagerou are giving me more value rather than Azami, I have my reason :
1. Ninja are more like support fire and only needed if there's spare melee slot to be put into, so the sooner Ninja be placed the better which Kagerou win because she's a silver.
2. I already have Saki so I only need 2 ninja in my rooster, 1 for damage and 1 for fast deployment.

soranokira
01-19-2016, 03:59 AM
Well, Kagerou are giving me more value rather than Azami, I have my reason :
1. Ninja are more like support fire and only needed if there's spare melee slot to be put into, so the sooner Ninja be placed the better which Kagerou win because she's a silver.
2. I already have Saki so I only need 2 ninja in my rooster, 1 for damage and 1 for fast deployment.

Hien disagrees. (looks at his -1 cost AW ability)

Ligoya
01-19-2016, 04:22 AM
Hien disagrees. (looks at his -1 cost AW ability)

Yeah, and Hien too. He got Attack up II if I'm not mistaken so yeah, he's for Male only map.

angelhalo
01-19-2016, 05:08 AM
Hi. I just started playing this game recently and this is my very first event.. (heard of this game via sybilla nendo by gsc)
From the looks of it this event unit isn't an important one..as I am only in my early lv50 should I just stick to map 2 to get her?

I have only cc Katie and is trying to save sc to try to gacha sybilla :/

I also read e guide on how to effectively use sc. The spotlight does it means rates up for gacha unit like the current ones for this event?

Ligoya
01-19-2016, 05:10 AM
OF COURSE, OF COURSE THERE ARE NO SILVER NINJA, KAGEROU ARE FUCKING LOLI, OF COURSE, OF FUCKING COURSE THERE ARE NOTHING FOR US !! Omg, wtf is this game.

buttlover
01-19-2016, 05:18 AM
seems like for the past 3 months it was just one shitty event after another.
I mean horace was the only highlight that i can think of, and we don't even really need her in most maps.

Ligoya
01-19-2016, 05:25 AM
Hi. I just started playing this game recently and this is my very first event.. (heard of this game via sybilla nendo by gsc)
From the looks of it this event unit isn't an important one..as I am only in my early lv50 should I just stick to map 2 to get her?

I have only cc Katie and is trying to save sc to try to gacha sybilla :/

I also read e guide on how to effectively use sc. The spotlight does it means rates up for gacha unit like the current ones for this event?

Yes, this event isn't an important "you must have this character to clear a map" event. But if you are looking for a "easy to earn" Ninja, there you go.

As for the map, I think map 3 is as far as you can go, if you have a decent archer, healer, cc katie, defense boost Prince for tanking the Ninja.

The spotlight are like when you summon and the light are the same rarity of the spotlight, then you may get that character. So it's not increasing chance that you will get better rarity but increase chance of you will get that chara when you get the light.

soranokira
01-19-2016, 05:35 AM
Hi. I just started playing this game recently and this is my very first event.. (heard of this game via sybilla nendo by gsc)
From the looks of it this event unit isn't an important one..as I am only in my early lv50 should I just stick to map 2 to get her?

I have only cc Katie and is trying to save sc to try to gacha sybilla :/

I also read e guide on how to effectively use sc. The spotlight does it means rates up for gacha unit like the current ones for this event?

focus on leveling your team, grind some affection up, and just spend last 2 days trying in 3rd map if you want azami. although she isn't really gonna be worth it.

buttlover
01-19-2016, 05:55 AM
Hi. I just started playing this game recently and this is my very first event.. (heard of this game via sybilla nendo by gsc)
From the looks of it this event unit isn't an important one..as I am only in my early lv50 should I just stick to map 2 to get her?

I have only cc Katie and is trying to save sc to try to gacha sybilla :/

I also read e guide on how to effectively use sc. The spotlight does it means rates up for gacha unit like the current ones for this event?

i'll recommend you to gacha all your sc away and see if you have any good plats/blacks before deciding to commit to this acct. Because you are still new, you are afford to reroll and this event sucks anyway.

If you took part in the gold rush and got bernice, you might wanna keep the acct, but if you didn't just roll for it and recreate and reroll till you get a decent "starter".

angelhalo
01-19-2016, 06:12 AM
i'll recommend you to gacha all your sc away and see if you have any good plats/blacks before deciding to commit to this acct. Because you are still new, you are afford to reroll and this event sucks anyway.

If you took part in the gold rush and got bernice, you might wanna keep the acct, but if you didn't just roll for it and recreate and reroll till you get a decent "starter".

My first free Gacha was a platinum archer Bashira, I am trying to level her atm. What starter unit should I be looking for? The current Gacha event, is there any useful units? Should I wait for the next set of units before spamming my sc?

Meanwhile I shall attempt to follow the guide to earn more sc. and level my 3* units. If possible I wanna hold on to the sc until Sybilla rates up event

I started on the last day of the gold rush. Didn't have the level to attempt it.

- - - Updated - - -


focus on leveling your team, grind some affection up, and just spend last 2 days trying in 3rd map if you want azami. although she isn't really gonna be worth it.

Roger...may I ask, How many event units do we need for minimum cost?

soranokira
01-19-2016, 06:25 AM
My first free Gacha was a platinum archer Bashira, I am trying to level her atm. What starter unit should I be looking for? The current Gacha event, is there any useful units? Should I wait for the next set of units before spamming my sc?

Meanwhile I shall attempt to follow the guide to earn more sc. and level my 3* units. If possible I wanna hold on to the sc until Sybilla rates up event

I started on the last day of the gold rush. Didn't have the level to attempt it.

- - - Updated - - -



Roger...may I ask, How many event units do we need for minimum cost?

scroll down to the cost reduction section: http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Unit_Combination
it's a % thing, so chances are you won't be able to get a mincosted azami. she's not all that great anyway, so don't worry about her too much.

Bashira is NOT your first free gacha actually. that's a tutorial summon which gives you a bashira guaranteed. there are a couple of good units this spotlight, including plat healer camilla and plat soldier jerome. you could roll for it if you have at least 50 SC I think.

refer to this thread for suggested team building: http://harem-battle.club/millennium-war-aigis/763-casual-player-suggestions.html

slyyr
01-19-2016, 06:32 AM
I picked up Azami already so I'm using the rest of the event to farm Christopher. Need at least 1 to round out my male squad plus extras for CCing. All the other silvers I have some of so they are low priority. Also min costed a bronze ninja for the male squad too.

I do have to ask - is it worth farming silver Samurai at all?

angelhalo
01-19-2016, 06:49 AM
I used all 35 sc I stocked and got the following
Liddy (plat) pegasus rider
Yuyu (gold) witch
Gina (gold) monk
Cuterie (gold) rogue
Fedora (gold) priest
2 random 3*

Are they good enough?.. Now I won't be able to get 45 sc for a decent Feb stamp :((

soranokira
01-19-2016, 06:56 AM
I used all 35 sc I stocked and got the following
Liddy (plat) pegasus rider
Yuyu (gold) witch
Gina (gold) monk
Cuterie (gold) rogue
Fedora (gold) priest

Are they good enough?

well cuterie is good to have since you missed gold rush. same for fedora (good 3rd/4th healer). and yuyu is an elf which = good. but Gina is pretty worthless and Liddy won't get much use for the time being, although she can be useful for certain situations.

angelhalo
01-19-2016, 06:58 AM
Sweet! I shall attempt to level em up at the meantime and try to restock my sc, :(

A question
How long does a f2p need to save 100sc?

Unregistered
01-19-2016, 07:41 AM
I used all 35 sc I stocked and got the following
Liddy (plat) pegasus rider
Yuyu (gold) witch
Gina (gold) monk
Cuterie (gold) rogue
Fedora (gold) priest
2 random 3*

Are they good enough?.. Now I won't be able to get 45 sc for a decent Feb stamp :((
Reroll for a black imo.

soranokira
01-19-2016, 08:11 AM
Sweet! I shall attempt to level em up at the meantime and try to restock my sc, :(

A question
How long does a f2p need to save 100sc?

very long. played for 5 months and only got 30+ (I did spend pretty often on events itself though, as well as 16 SC during horus event for powerleveling.)/ 30+ is after I summoned my 1st 10

MalusCorvus
01-19-2016, 09:22 AM
that's your own fault, they already announced maintenance. and hell, it always goes into maintenance at the same times.

edit: except for fucking DST issues.

Don't be too hard on him, I know I haven't played long enough to learn the schedules, and besides, unlike another game on Nutaku the only news is about maintainance and then only the day it takes place, so I haven't gotten used to it.

Also, DST. What timezone is the server in, anyway?



Anyway, the event. First two missions were easy, third I got my ass handed to me. Looks like I'll be grinding the first two for a little while...

Kamahari Akuma
01-19-2016, 09:30 AM
How I felt after seeing that Kagerou, the silver ninja whom is clearly not a loli, is once again not only in an event she should be in but also isn't in one about ninjas.

http://the-artifice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/AA1.jpg

As if I didn't need anymore reason to overflow with salt over this event. Oh well the spotlight should-

*sees Camilla in the spotlight along with Mikoto and Jerome*

...There is a silver lining after all.

Time to kick ninja ass.

soranokira
01-19-2016, 10:08 AM
Don't be too hard on him, I know I haven't played long enough to learn the schedules, and besides, unlike another game on Nutaku the only news is about maintainance and then only the day it takes place, so I haven't gotten used to it.

Also, DST. What timezone is the server in, anyway?



Anyway, the event. First two missions were easy, third I got my ass handed to me. Looks like I'll be grinding the first two for a little while...

EST. 2am-5am. which is why I live in Asia but I have my computer's time register a 2nd clock at EST time so I can easily reference. not too difficult. it's not the first time they're doing maintenance, and all games have maintenance. a simple look at the news tab would've provided some insight into that.

buttlover
01-19-2016, 11:17 AM
Sweet! I shall attempt to level em up at the meantime and try to restock my sc, :(

A question
How long does a f2p need to save 100sc?

Assuming you cleared all the main quests and the additional questline doesnt come.
you get 5 a month on the basic card + assuming there are 2 events (ranges from 2-4 usually) that month. Each event gives roughly 6 SC.
So that means you get 17 a month.
You will need slightly less than 6 months for 100 SC.

darkeleon
01-19-2016, 11:50 AM
Azami sprite is quite good with the long hair but her image <,<slut
these posion crap can really mess your sodier skill :mad:

angelhalo
01-19-2016, 12:33 PM
Reroll for a black imo.

really ? :( its that bad?

Pyonification
01-19-2016, 12:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qLoZeOs.png?1
The sentient tea at it's finest.

Just spitballing here.
You must cease this at once! You speak true, you've acted without thought, but you will only continue bring harm in your wanton recklessness. Is this truly what you want?

Unregistered
01-19-2016, 12:54 PM
really ? :( its that bad?

It's not that it's that bad, but black units are very hard to come by, especially as a free player. Chances are you will regret not rerolling later on. Since you just started anyway might as well start with a nice black.

MalusCorvus
01-19-2016, 02:11 PM
The sentient tea at it's finest.

Just spitballing here.
You must cease this at once! You speak true, you've acted without thought, but you will only continue bring harm in your wanton recklessness. Is this truly what you want?

Sentient tea? XD

On a side note, is the spoilered text a translation of the JP version? Neat. MWA is pretty good about being understandable, I find, but I do play a couple other games that could use some better English text... (makes furtive glances at Dragon Tactics: Memories)

angelhalo
01-19-2016, 02:18 PM
I see, as long as i can clear the content , I'm fine ...this is not my primary game anyway :) just playing casually + rerolling sounds like a pain (have to make xxx email addresses...)

Pyonification
01-19-2016, 02:30 PM
Sentient tea? XD

On a side note, is the spoilered text a translation of the JP version? Neat. MWA is pretty good about being understandable, I find, but I do play a couple other games that could use some better English text... (makes furtive glances at Dragon Tactics: Memories)


There was once upon a time where the Development Team for Aigis sent up an update apologizing for the lack of updates back in August. However they misspelt "Development Team" as "Development Tea" So I've been calling them a team of sentient tea since.

Also the spoiler text is just me re-writing the text because of the misspelling, because I felt like it and to have it fit a more medieval fantasy vibe.

Lafate
01-19-2016, 02:36 PM
It is thoughtless and thoughtlessness they just forgot the T.

MalusCorvus
01-19-2016, 02:50 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought too, seemed pretty clear, if odd.


There was once upon a time where the Development Team for Aigis sent up an update apologizing for the lack of updates back in August. However they misspelt "Development Team" as "Development Tea" So I've been calling them a team of sentient tea since.

Also the spoiler text is just me re-writing the text because of the misspelling, because I felt like it and to have it fit a more medieval fantasy vibe.

I see. I wondered if maybe T's had consistantly been an issue in previous text errors so you guys had taken to referring to the letters themselves as sentient XD. And I do like the re-writing, glad to see I'm not the only one who does that. I tend to be a little wary of trying to hard to make something sound "old" but then again one of my favorite authors wrote in a deliberately antiquated style (in the early 20th century no less), and I'm told my own writing has an archaic vibe to it as well.

Pyonification
01-19-2016, 03:07 PM
And I do like the re-writing, glad to see I'm not the only one who does that.

Yeah, it's a fun thing I like to do when I see non-voice acted dialogue that was translated.
But for this situation I didn't like how it repeated thoughtless and said
"you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more thoughtlessness?"
My first thought was "Anna, get a damn thesaurus."
Like, I'm all fine when they just translate the original text one for one, but I feel some time should be put into making the text more exciting in a sense.
If I take that exact sentence and say instead
"you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more recklessness?"
Even that could be cut down, but I could spend all day here tearing apart this one line for Anna.
"Please stop, it may be true you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more thoughtlessness?"
>"Stop this at once, as thoughtless as you may be, think of how much pain you'll bring if you do not cease this recklessness!"
>"I beg of you, cease this at once! Whatever thoughtless decision you have made prior, you must realizes by now you have only brought harm to the innocent!"
>Please stop, your wanton betrayal to the people has gone on long enough. Have you not considered the suffering your thoughtlessness has inflicted?
>Damn girl, you dun goof'd. Maybe you should use your head a little more before you start throwing ninja stars and shit.

angelhalo
01-19-2016, 03:08 PM
damn 3rd stage is too hard for me...gotta try to grind 2nd stage or give up completely

MalusCorvus
01-19-2016, 03:31 PM
Yeah, it's a fun thing I like to do when I see non-voice acted dialogue that was translated.
But for this situation I didn't like how it repeated thoughtless and said
"you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more thoughtlessness?"
My first thought was "Anna, get a damn thesaurus."
Like, I'm all fine when they just translate the original text one for one, but I feel some time should be put into making the text more exciting in a sense.
If I take that exact sentence and say instead
"you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more recklessness?"
Even that could be cut down, but I could spend all day here tearing apart this one line for Anna.
"Please stop, it may be true you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more thoughtlessness?"
>"Stop this at once, as thoughtless as you may be, think of how much pain you'll bring if you do not cease this recklessness!"
>"I beg of you, cease this at once! Whatever thoughtless decision you have made prior, you must realizes by now you have only brought harm to the innocent!"
>Please stop, your wanton betrayal to the people has gone on long enough. Have you not considered the suffering your thoughtlessness has inflicted?
>Damn girl, you dun goof'd. Maybe you should use your head a little more before you start throwing ninja stars and shit.


Eh, I think you could theoretically re-use thoughtless, but it takes a bit of skill and you'd really have to emphasize the fact that Azami knows she's in the wrong but is continuing. "You say you were being thoughtless, yet you continue with that same thoughtlessness!" But I myself do tend to abuse the hell out of synonyms, so I agree with not re-using it.

Lafate
01-19-2016, 05:07 PM
Yeah, it's a fun thing I like to do when I see non-voice acted dialogue that was translated.
But for this situation I didn't like how it repeated thoughtless and said
"you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more thoughtlessness?"
My first thought was "Anna, get a damn thesaurus."
Like, I'm all fine when they just translate the original text one for one, but I feel some time should be put into making the text more exciting in a sense.
If I take that exact sentence and say instead
"you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more recklessness?"
Even that could be cut down, but I could spend all day here tearing apart this one line for Anna.
"Please stop, it may be true you were being thoughtless, but do you want to continue with even more thoughtlessness?"
>"Stop this at once, as thoughtless as you may be, think of how much pain you'll bring if you do not cease this recklessness!"
>"I beg of you, cease this at once! Whatever thoughtless decision you have made prior, you must realizes by now you have only brought harm to the innocent!"
>Please stop, your wanton betrayal to the people has gone on long enough. Have you not considered the suffering your thoughtlessness has inflicted?
>Damn girl, you dun goof'd. Maybe you should use your head a little more before you start throwing ninja stars and shit.


THe issue is... Recklessness does not fit. She isn't being Reckless she is being thoughtless.


Azami: Such strength... This task is beyond us. If this is how it is. there was nothing we could do.
Iron Ninja(Ninja Underling): Master, what are you doing?!
Azami: I must take responsibility for these thoughtless actions. I will give my life to earn mercy for yours.


She was done. To save her men she was going to let prince and company kill her. In the hopes that the prince would spare her men because of it. So as I said before Reckless or Recklessness does not fit the context.

EDIT: Also just once I want for us (the prince) to be like. "The price for you going against me is your body!"... Why because I find it hilariously out of character.

Pyonification
01-19-2016, 05:19 PM
THe issue is... Recklessness does not fit. She isn't being Reckless she is being thoughtless.
I guess the issue was that I was focusing on the one phrase, but being thoughtless could also be considered reckless. You can be reckless because you aren't thinking things through. Being reckless is acting without thinking or without considering the consequences. Now I won't argue against the translation, its set in stone, but I feel recklessness would fit in this situation.


EDIT: Also just once I want for us (the prince) to be like. "The price for you going against me is your body!"... Why because I find it hilariously out of character.
It's okay, we'll just shower her in flowers and rubies to the point where this is basically canon.

Edit: Also, speaking of the topic of her sacrificing herself so that her men could be spared, it'd be interesting to see what kind of stories the monsters are telling our opponents for everyone to think the Prince is some spoiled twat who is incompetent and affluenzic. (At least that's what I gathered from the dialogue that I read.)

Lafate
01-19-2016, 05:52 PM
I guess the issue was that I was focusing on the one phrase, but being thoughtless could also be considered reckless. You can be reckless because you aren't thinking things through. Being reckless is acting without thinking or without considering the consequences. Now I won't argue against the translation, its set in stone, but I feel recklessness would fit in this situation.



Considering the fact she was thinking and considering the consequences of her action of temporarily siding against the prince... I'll have to disagree.

MalusCorvus
01-19-2016, 06:13 PM
Considering the fact she was thinking and considering the consequences of her action of temporarily siding against the prince... I'll have to disagree.

In which case she wasn't really being thoughtless either and we'll need to figure out what type of stupid she was actually being. :p

Unregistered
01-19-2016, 08:11 PM
i cannot get 3rd star

please help!!

http://i.imgur.com/KXNDVjG.png

Kamahari Akuma
01-19-2016, 08:41 PM
i cannot get 3rd star

please help!!

http://i.imgur.com/KXNDVjG.png

*Tries and take Gellius from you*

I'd ask what your team is before you walked into this map. Would be nice to know where the said unit happened to die.

Lafate
01-19-2016, 08:43 PM
i cannot get 3rd star

please help!!

http://i.imgur.com/KXNDVjG.png

Okay keep everything the same...

but remove barbie, gellius, Alissa, and both Valkyries...

put Iris where Alissa is. put a mage(I guess Barbie) where Iris is, and place an archer south of Iris position in the picture.

Done.

Pyonification
01-19-2016, 09:04 PM
Considering the fact she was thinking and considering the consequences of her action of temporarily siding against the prince... I'll have to disagree.

In which case she wasn't really being thoughtless either and we'll need to figure out what type of stupid she was actually being. :p

If THAT's the case, then I have no idea what's going on then. I'd need to mull over the whole dialogue all over again just to see what's going on. Cause at this point, Anna could have called her a bloody idiot and it'd be just as valid as calling her thoughtless.

Edit: Apparently in mission 1 Ninja of Darkness, they wanted to kill Anna. Because they speak of wanting HER head and not HIS head

Edit2: Ninjas Again: Clearly, Azami's motive is to protect the world cause a Ninja's duty is to fight monsters and protect the world. So if fighting the monsters means more damage to the world, then naturally, she has to kill whichever enemy reduces the world's overall casualty. She's also under the impression it's the Prince's fault everything went to shit.

The Art of Flying: Nothing of plot relevance is here, just introducing flying squirrel

The Art of Paralysis: Now the motive is to give the people hope. Since the people have been "Backed into a corner" the ninjas must do what they can to give hope to the people and that's accepting the monster's promise and assassinate the Prince. Fair enough.

True Duty of the Ninja X: Azami accepts she's screwed up, but instead of surrendering, she decides to keep fighting.

Lafate
01-19-2016, 09:08 PM
Edit: Apparently in mission 1 Ninja of Darkness, they wanted to kill Anna. Because they speak of wanting HER head and not HIS head

Just add more to my theory of Anna being Aigis' daughter. The monsters know it!

OMG AIGIS HAD A LOVE CHILD WITH THE DEMON LORD! THIS MUST BE WHAT IS HAPPENING!

Pyonification
01-19-2016, 09:15 PM
Just add more to my theory of Anna being Aigis' daughter. The monsters know it!

OMG AIGIS HAD A LOVE CHILD WITH THE DEMON LORD! THIS MUST BE WHAT IS HAPPENING!

I'm just convinced that Anna is just a secret asshole. According to translations of the art books, Anna is suppose to be the prince's childhood friend. Imagine sitting in an office as he bangs everything with a pair of breast in the army, probably in the room right behind you.

Lafate
01-19-2016, 09:26 PM
I'm just convinced that Anna is just a secret asshole. According to translations of the art books, Anna is suppose to be the prince's childhood friend. Imagine sitting in an office as he bangs everything with a pair of breast in the army, probably in the room right behind you.

I'm convinced that Anna is the child of Aigis that she sent to the prince because she knew she was going to fall and become the Demoness. Anna is meant to lead us to the salvation of the world, and without her we would fail. So the monsters want her dead.

Pyonification
01-19-2016, 09:29 PM
I'm convinced that Anna is the child of Aigis that she sent to the prince because she knew she was going to fall and become the Demoness. Anna is meant to lead us to the salvation of the world, and without her we would fail. So the monsters want her dead.
I'd believe this.

soranokira
01-19-2016, 09:32 PM
actually the monsters set a high bounty on the Prince's head as well (mentioned in one of the later maps aside from 1st), other than probably Anna.

Lafate
01-19-2016, 09:49 PM
Actually they say your heads. More then likely 'Prince and Co' aka the resistance. Anna however is the only one singled out.

Unregistered
01-19-2016, 10:14 PM
*Tries and take Gellius from you*

I'd ask what your team is before you walked into this map. Would be nice to know where the said unit happened to die.


Okay keep everything the same...

but remove barbie, gellius, Alissa, and both Valkyries...

put Iris where Alissa is. put a mage(I guess Barbie) where Iris is, and place an archer south of Iris position in the picture.

Done.

sorry i just realise is my mistake

i think, allied unit death 0 means i lost 0 unit, but still no star. i thought is a bug

scenario probable is i lost unit and didnt see. i was wondering why it does not show allied unit death 1

if i cannot beat this map with my team i should stop playing aigis. but thanks for help

MalusCorvus
01-20-2016, 01:17 AM
I'm just convinced that Anna is just a secret asshole. According to translations of the art books, Anna is suppose to be the prince's childhood friend. Imagine sitting in an office as he bangs everything with a pair of breast in the army, probably in the room right behind you.

To be fair, the Prince does offer his first bouquet to her, but she politely declines... but then privately thinks that her affection is already at maximum. Damn girl, stop being so... whatever -dere applies in this situation!

Also, I like that headcanon, Lafate. Admittedly I may have just read some spoilers but that just makes me want to play even further. I like that this game actually has a plot, and that you can headcanon stuff about it. Seriously, this stuff doesn't happen over on the Dragon Tactics section...

Lafate
01-20-2016, 01:34 AM
Yep Aigis has lore we can dig through. I just wish that we would eventually get the all aigis version to get even more lore... and the books.

MalusCorvus
01-20-2016, 01:53 AM
Yep Aigis has lore we can dig through. I just wish that we would eventually get the all aigis version to get even more lore... and the books.

Nice, nice. I do love it when we get story and lore for things! Even an H-game!

You know, we should have a thread for discussion of lore. And perhaps another thread for discussion of characters. I tried to do the latter on certain sub-boards which shall remain unnamed and got a big fat nothing for a reply... really made me question my choice of games...

nikonana
01-20-2016, 06:06 AM
4 tries for 4th map 2 elaine no Azami. Fuckin bullshit.

Still this map require some micro especially when your archer got paralyzed.

soranokira
01-20-2016, 06:15 AM
especially when the desert, oriental, magic city and jungle maps come.
also lilia and sherry are actually close friends, and arondight was even a gift from lilia's kingdom to sherry's.
and nanaly taught nyashira the ways of the bow~

and thats just the tip of the aigis lore that hasnt been explicitly mentioned here for us.

namhoang909
01-20-2016, 07:16 AM
so are jerome and that platinum healer worthy? i only have katie and phyllis to generate U.P

soranokira
01-20-2016, 08:27 AM
so are jerome and that platinum healer worthy? i only have katie and phyllis to generate U.P

Jerome is best soldier atm and camilla is the only plat healer we have access to ever since chydis was out of TP, so pretty much yes.

Pyonification
01-20-2016, 10:29 AM
Nice, nice. I do love it when we get story and lore for things! Even an H-game!

You know, we should have a thread for discussion of lore. And perhaps another thread for discussion of characters. I tried to do the latter on certain sub-boards which shall remain unnamed and got a big fat nothing for a reply... really made me question my choice of games...

Not gonna lie, if we had an entire thread for discussing lore, I'd probably spend most of my time making fun of it. Bwahahaha!

ZeroZet
01-20-2016, 02:51 PM
Nice, nice. I do love it when we get story and lore for things! Even an H-game! Well, some kind soul has started to translate the character book profiles at the wikia, so there's some additional insight there.

And there was a whole excerpt from the Aigis ranobe somewhere around here, I think. Now that's one thing I'd really love to see translated... Maybe somebody can feed the raws to some trusty translator / MTL editor team for us? ;)

Pyonification
01-20-2016, 03:59 PM
*Looks at Checklist.. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iz40XQUxhRSPXl2bNT4tQoTuPsRzXzu-hzk22Rw02Wo/edit#gid=0).*
Ah! Holy carp, I need those Silver Samurais and a Silver Ninja!
I wasn't really keeping up with the gameplay discussion but...
Ehem.

AAAAH! Why isn't Kagerou here!?
Noooo! Hina isn't gonna be able to awaken like this!!

Edit: Anyone think it's worth doing Dance of the Tentacles to grind Demon Crystals while its not Thursday? 50% down the line is pretty solid and can be better with a Monica.

slyyr
01-20-2016, 07:22 PM
Loving this event so far. 2 Azami and 3 Christophers so far. Needed him for my male squad and its filled the hole in the lineup.

I am levelling one and plan on possibly CCing him. The other I used to CC Fedora. I want to use one to CC Alissa too. Can't have too many healers ;)

Is it worth CCing Christopher or better to run 2 in the male squad? 1 50CC50 and 1 L50 perhaps?

lolix
01-20-2016, 07:42 PM
Loving this event so far. 2 Azami and 3 Christophers so far. Needed him for my male squad and its filled the hole in the lineup.

I am levelling one and plan on possibly CCing him. The other I used to CC Fedora. I want to use one to CC Alissa too. Can't have too many healers ;)

Is it worth CCing Christopher or better to run 2 in the male squad? 1 50CC50 and 1 L50 perhaps?

i have no ideea why wold u need 2 male healers. I never had the need for even 1 till now , but whatever. Also i would cc iris before alissa

soranokira
01-20-2016, 08:46 PM
i have no ideea why wold u need 2 male healers. I never had the need for even 1 till now , but whatever. Also i would cc iris before alissa

for toast to men X and G? ;)

Kamahari Akuma
01-20-2016, 08:52 PM
I wasn't really keeping up with the gameplay discussion but...
Ehem.

AAAAH! Why isn't Kagerou here!?
Noooo! Hina isn't gonna be able to awaken like this!!

Welcome to my existence. *Continues downing buckets of sorrow over no Kagerou*

slyyr
01-20-2016, 11:31 PM
i have no ideea why wold u need 2 male healers. I never had the need for even 1 till now , but whatever. Also i would cc iris before alissa

I already have Iris and Dorca at 50CC50

MalusCorvus
01-21-2016, 02:56 AM
Edit: Anyone think it's worth doing Dance of the Tentacles to grind Demon Crystals while its not Thursday? 50% down the line is pretty solid and can be better with a Monica.

What's Dance of the Tentacles even like? The cost kind of intimidates me so I don't want to undertake it unless I know I can win...

lolix
01-21-2016, 04:00 AM
What's Dance of the Tentacles even like? The cost kind of intimidates me so I don't want to undertake it unless I know I can win...

easier then the 7 stamina one \imo , especially if u have solano



for toast to men X and G? ;)


toast to men is the male aff daily , yes ? no ideea what X and G means , but i'm assuming it's a higher dificulty then the ones we have right now ?
I guess he could use it for that , but i wasn't talking about future. I was referencing the present , and at the time , he doesn't need 2 male silver healers (literally the worst healers , since he gets half attack bonus then an alissa for example) , when he could easily cc iris and fedora which are way better , and should be core in a team , assuming he lacks camille

soranokira
01-21-2016, 04:53 AM
because I like destroying people's hopes and dreams for easy maps.

Toast to men X:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntRvTGXZt8
Toast to men G:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYIOxAAGUSo

watching conrad killing himself. much fun.

Kamahari Akuma
01-21-2016, 09:18 AM
because I like destroying people's hopes and dreams for easy maps.

Toast to men X:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntRvTGXZt8
Toast to men G:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYIOxAAGUSo

watching conrad killing himself. much fun.

Oh come now its only an AW Cyrus and Barbie you have to deal with on the G map. And a few silvers. And AW Conrad. They aren't that much of a problem!

The sarcasm is real.

Edit:

In other news...
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/01/21/kVYKP35.jpg

FINALLY. 3*d and I got my cyncial one Azami to say that I did this event. Now onto my free plat armor/DCs map with the wimpy tentacle monsters!

Tenhou
01-21-2016, 10:19 AM
Did the final map today. Cleared it on the first try and i went in blind even. That must have been the easiest 100/2 map i've ever seen.

Kamahari Akuma
01-21-2016, 01:32 PM
Did the final map today. Cleared it on the first try and i went in blind even. That must have been the easiest 100/2 map i've ever seen.

Went in with some idea of what was to come, but applied as much platinum to it as possible. Nothing says hp shred more than Elizabeth and her Quick Shot II.

Speaking of which, its probably the only reason why this map is so easy. The tentacle mobs hit like wet noodles yet have enough HP bulk to be an annoyance. Yet with units that hit hard or have crazy burst, all you'd have to do is sneeze in this map's general direction and it falls over.

MalusCorvus
01-21-2016, 05:33 PM
Well... all I've gotten so far are irons and bronzes. Not sure what the drop rate is, but for me it's pretty attrocious, such that I decided to do the daily for demon crystals instead.

...Still a little salty at the results, but it's going to be a long time before I get anything with DCs..

Kamahari Akuma
01-21-2016, 06:34 PM
Well... all I've gotten so far are irons and bronzes. Not sure what the drop rate is, but for me it's pretty attrocious, such that I decided to do the daily for demon crystals instead.

...Still a little salty at the results, but it's going to be a long time before I get anything with DCs..

DC faming is like tending to a very sensitive crop. You gotta tend to it just right to make the most of it.

Then you go out in a blaze of glory as you spend them all on Spicas and Sakis.

namhoang909
01-21-2016, 07:05 PM
90 sc and no platinum or black...just try to show off my bad luck

Kamahari Akuma
01-21-2016, 07:13 PM
90 sc and no platinum or black...just try to show off my bad luck

18 premium summons and no plats or blacks? Clearly Aigis has it out for you :P

namhoang909
01-24-2016, 04:54 AM
18 premium summons and no plats or blacks? Clearly Aigis has it out for you :P

the thing cost me 5 sc per roll, i did think i can get at least Jerome or plat healer

- - - Updated - - -

sry but can anyone please help me with true duty of ninja x, i have all unit but somehow can't make it. i really need SC :( please

soranokira
01-24-2016, 05:15 AM
the thing cost me 5 sc per roll, i did think i can get at least Jerome or plat healer

- - - Updated - - -

sry but can anyone please help me with true duty of ninja x, i have all unit but somehow can't make it. i really need SC :( please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOBEx02inY
based on nasu vid, I basically used the same method, but bashira replaced daniela on the right, spica replaced soma on the left. also, I left katie as she was, and waited until she got paralyzed, then replaced her with Ada (just about any rogue/monk should do, really). also activated bashira skill during the 1st ninja master and activated it again when the samurai came and skill was ready. after getting rid of top paralysis ninja with 1 or 2 duelists, if bashira gets paralyzed, take her out and replace with another archer/mage. I also used bernice on the right side, and activated her skill when katie got paralyzed

lolix
01-24-2016, 06:43 AM
i did the same as sora (replacing soma and daniela with bashira on the right and spia on the left) , but placed katie lower (where u will place the heavy armor) , and let bashira fight the first 3 ninjas. She can kill the first 1 before she gets paralyzed , and u can activate her skill for the 2nd and third that hit quite hard , to burst them down. Then u use katie's skill to drop a couple of healers (1 for left and 1 for right side of the map ) , then u proceed on getting a duelist in front of her ( u still keep katie for her second reinforcement). after that i retreat bashira and place a solano on her spot , and then use katies skill , then replace her and drop a heavy (keep in mind that paralyzing ninjas tend to attack the last unit placed , so try to place solano before the heavy to not get her paralyzed). When the first 2 samurais enter solano's range , u activate her skill and stop givving a fuck about the right side. Now on the left side , u can place 2 duelists to bloak either the paralyzing ninja or the big shuriken ninja , and another duelist to block a samurai. assuming your duelists are decent , u wont even need to retreat them , but just to be on the safe side , be carefull. U will need to block 1 samurai because otherwise it escapes (if u don't have a second heavy like the video has)

All in all the main difference between me and the guide video is solano replacing bashira. and the 2 duelists replacing a heavy. It's pretty easy , and it doesn't require big micro managemenet because solano just obliterates everything that comes in her range.

namhoang909
01-24-2016, 07:15 AM
tragically i tried most of strategy on youtube not so different from one you posted, my alissa is cced- lv 50 100% aff and kattie is cced 57 100% aff, i don't have Bashira so i use Spica and daniella 50 -100% aff yet right side can not stand a chance when first 2 ninja masters come.
i just got through that only once by activated daniella skill which it completely different from the clip, after that in last wave ninja with poison took out whole right side, just after i replace Daniella with mage
i can't understand why they took out my katie so fast, i am also using savior tittle and i 've tried to deal with this stage since friday won 3 times so i do hope someone could just make the miracle happen for me

lolix
01-24-2016, 07:31 AM
tragically i tried most of strategy on youtube not so different from one you posted, my alissa is cced- lv 50 100% aff and kattie is cced 57 100% aff, i don't have Bashira so i use Spica and daniella 50 -100% aff yet right side can not stand a chance when first 2 ninja masters come.
i just got through that only once by activated daniella skill which it completely different from the clip, after that in last wave ninja with poison took out whole right side, just after i replace Daniella with mage
i can't understand why they took out my katie so fast, i am also using savior tittle and i 've tried to deal with this stage since friday won 3 times so i do hope someone could just make the miracle happen for me

can u post what units do u have? we might have better insight if we see your entire crew. U could place katie with daniela on the right , on the positions the guide placed them , and spica on the left side ( spica has way 2 low life to keep her on right). Place katie first , then daniela. Let daniela kill the first ninja by herself , then use the skill for the other 2. U will need to replace katie after her first use if u placed her like in the video , and get a good duelist (kerry can handle it). Having solano would help u alot since she outdpses everything we have in the game right now , and she is quite cheap to place , compared to a mage. if u don't have solano , i'd place a very cheap mage (valerie/pallis or even a gold 1) insteaad of the likes of odette , since u need fast dps placed. Also , i repeat myself : paralyzing ninjas tend to target the last unit placed , so if u place a mage u need to place the heavy right after him , otherwise they will paralyze him , and u will lack damage then. I've failed the map 1 time because they paralyzed my dpser.

Anyway , seeing your entire crew could help us give u better advice , since right now we're speculating.

soranokira
01-24-2016, 07:31 AM
tragically i tried most of strategy on youtube not so different from one you posted, my alissa is cced- lv 50 100% aff and kattie is cced 57 100% aff, i don't have Bashira so i use Spica and daniella 50 -100% aff yet right side can not stand a chance when first 2 ninja masters come.
i just got through that only once by activated daniella skill which it completely different from the clip, after that in last wave ninja with poison took out whole right side, just after i replace Daniella with mage
i can't understand why they took out my katie so fast, i am also using savior tittle and i 've tried to deal with this stage since friday won 3 times so i do hope someone could just make the miracle happen for me

because you shouldnt let katie tank in the last wave. she lacks the def/hp. use a heavy like bernice/leeanne. also, using a rogue will greatly reduce the need to switch units since they can tank the paralysis ninjas longer. and I assume you dont have solano. for the right side, if you can keep switching units as they get paralyzed it should not be too much of an issue actually.

namhoang909
01-24-2016, 08:18 AM
can u post what units do u have? we might have better insight if we see your entire crew. U could place katie with daniela on the right , on the positions the guide placed them , and spica on the left side ( spica has way 2 low life to keep her on right). Place katie first , then daniela. Let daniela kill the first ninja by herself , then use the skill for the other 2. U will need to replace katie after her first use if u placed her like in the video , and get a good duelist (kerry can handle it). Having solano would help u alot since she outdpses everything we have in the game right now , and she is quite cheap to place , compared to a mage. if u don't have solano , i'd place a very cheap mage (valerie/pallis or even a gold 1) insteaad of the likes of odette , since u need fast dps placed. Also , i repeat myself : paralyzing ninjas tend to target the last unit placed , so if u place a mage u need to place the heavy right after him , otherwise they will paralyze him , and u will lack damage then. I've failed the map 1 time because they paralyzed my dpser.

Anyway , seeing your entire crew could help us give u better advice , since right now we're speculating.


because you shouldnt let katie tank in the last wave. she lacks the def/hp. use a heavy like bernice/leeanne. also, using a rogue will greatly reduce the need to switch units since they can tank the paralysis ninjas longer. and I assume you dont have solano. for the right side, if you can keep switching units as they get paralyzed it should not be too much of an issue actually.

well like it said i've tried both approaching, place kattie first then place Daniella first, all were place exactly like tutorials on youtube and since i don't use elaine i like to use kerry for last wave so for the left side is spica, Iris, prince, bernice, 2 duelist (conrad + elaine to attack poison ninja and ninja master in last wave) right side includes kerry, alissa, dorca, Leeanne and daniella which will be replace by Barbi
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soranokira
01-24-2016, 08:53 AM
http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/06fef7d6659f24e1.png
1) katie at K, daniela at T, spica at L, prince at A
2) activate daniela skill when ninja masters come (or when paralysis ninja if you cant kill paralysis ninja w/o skill) and katie skill whenever possible
3) alissa at S, iris at O. should just barely make it before spica dies from poison.
4) bernice at J, leeanne at E, continue generating UP.
5) conrad/elaine duel paralysis ninja/ninja master on left route as per key kii vid.
6) watch right lane, activate daniela skill as soon as possible, withdraw katie when she gets paralyzed and put cypria. withdraw daniela and put barbie in her place.

should more or less work if you manage this. activate alissa/bernice/leeanne/spica skill when you withdraw katie and put cypria.

lolix
01-24-2016, 09:05 AM
hmm..... this team should be able to do it. 2 bad u missed bashira , since her skill makes it really easy , but regardless , u should be able to do it. Let's see....u could try setting katie first (so she takes aggro) , then setting spica on right side , and hope she can kill the first 3 ninjas without katie dieing. then place iris on the right as well (or place alissa if katie is paralyzed and spica takes aggro , since she can't tank many big shurikens hits) , and after u use katie's first reinforcement skill , recall her and place cypria. Since she's a rogue , she has a good chance of dodging paralyzes. after that u recall spica , and place barbi on her spot. AFTER barbi has been placed , set a heavy behind cypria.


If you get confused in the middle of the battle on how to place stuff , either pause the game and come back and read what me and sora sugested or, u can open another window on the same page as aigis , and it will freeze your aigis page. From my personal experience with this map , a lot of the fails i experienced with it ( i failed it once , and had to do a couple of runs till i 3 starred it as well ) are born from bad placements or placement order.


EDIT : do what sora said , but i'd say place your mage before bernice/heavy unit. As i said , paralyzing ninjas tend to focus the last placed unit. U don't want them to paralyze your mage. Also , as i said , if u lack the dps on the right side , u could try spica instead of daniela , but the problem with spica is her very low hp. u will need to move fast

EDIT2: if the enemies run too fast and u need to block them before u can place barbi , feel free to place bernice first , but keep in mind that barbi will take aggro. if he gets paralyzed , recall and place pallis in his stead imediatly

buttlover
01-24-2016, 10:03 AM
the true path's hard part is just dropping the units at the right time once you get your main unit down. If 2 of those big shurik ninjas get tgt, they will take out most range/weak tanks

namhoang909
01-24-2016, 06:06 PM
my new false, just trying to figure it out why i have to activate daniella skill in first place

https://www.facebook.com/100005533602152/videos/469602746567508/?l=1358251695098613775

MalusCorvus
01-24-2016, 06:42 PM
So I just got a second Christopher from The Art of Flying. I did not realize you could get multiple silvers of the same unit. I was all, "Holy shit."

Now if I could do that with some other classes I need to evolve... don't get me wrong, I now have 3 silver healers I can use for fodder for my two active healers and a third I could use. But still...

blacksaber
01-24-2016, 06:53 PM
So I just got a second Christopher from The Art of Flying. I did not realize you could get multiple silvers of the same unit. I was all, "Holy shit."

Now if I could do that with some other classes I need to evolve... don't get me wrong, I now have 3 silver healers I can use for fodder for my two active healers and a third I could use. But still...

Always good to have at least 3 silvers from each class. You never know when you'll need em.

soranokira
01-24-2016, 06:55 PM
my new false, just trying to figure it out why i have to activate daniella skill in first place

https://www.facebook.com/100005533602152/videos/469602746567508/?l=1358251695098613775

dude, I don't understand. why are you delaying your unit placements in the first place? that poison isn't that strong. just place your units down immediately once you have the UP! also, if doesnt work that way, place daniela then place katie. she will get paralyzed before using skill but that is not an issue. also, you forgot to activate bernice skill, for one. or rather, you forgot to activate ANYBODY'S skill. how do you expect to kill them fast enough that way? left side you placed kerry down too late. if you looked at key kii's vid, he blocked yellow ninja at 1st melee spot. fyi, I've tried placing down duelist tons of times while the paralysis ninja was walking together with the samurai. I place kerry and she DOESNT block any of the samurai, goes for the ninja straight away.

edit: might as well mention, activate daniela skill = kill ninja master faster = katie take less dmg.

namhoang909
01-25-2016, 12:53 AM
dude, I don't understand. why are you delaying your unit placements in the first place? that poison isn't that strong. just place your units down immediately once you have the UP! also, if doesnt work that way, place daniela then place katie. she will get paralyzed before using skill but that is not an issue. also, you forgot to activate bernice skill, for one. or rather, you forgot to activate ANYBODY'S skill. how do you expect to kill them fast enough that way? left side you placed kerry down too late. if you looked at key kii's vid, he blocked yellow ninja at 1st melee spot. fyi, I've tried placing down duelist tons of times while the paralysis ninja was walking together with the samurai. I place kerry and she DOESNT block any of the samurai, goes for the ninja straight away.

edit: might as well mention, activate daniela skill = kill ninja master faster = katie take less dmg.

after Daniella was killed by ninja master i have to wait till UP generate enough to get Pallis, then UP is not enough to place Elaine or kerry as you can see in 3:11, and yes a little messed up in the end 'cause i didn't activate bernice skill but skill has nothing to do with poisonous status right?

soranokira
01-25-2016, 02:28 AM
after Daniella was killed by ninja master i have to wait till UP generate enough to get Pallis, then UP is not enough to place Elaine or kerry as you can see in 3:11, and yes a little messed up in the end 'cause i didn't activate bernice skill but skill has nothing to do with poisonous status right?

actually, it does. higher def = chance of deflecting paralysis ninja atk = take longer to get paralyzed. (also receiving less dmg from samurai so healer focus on healing them less)
place unit earlier so they can activate skill earlier.
activate skills for more dmg = kill faster = less dmg taken = unit not dying. same goes for cleric heals and stuff.

namhoang909
01-25-2016, 05:09 AM
actually, it does. higher def = chance of deflecting paralysis ninja atk = take longer to get paralyzed. (also receiving less dmg from samurai so healer focus on healing them less)
place unit earlier so they can activate skill earlier.
activate skills for more dmg = kill faster = less dmg taken = unit not dying. same goes for cleric heals and stuff.

so do you have any idea why daniella of VP games (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU6I4iR1VjI) killes ninja master faster than mine, i see no different but prince level, my daniella is max aff and level

Radhulbh
01-25-2016, 08:01 AM
So...another break? Oh boy...

soranokira
01-25-2016, 08:23 AM
so do you have any idea why daniella of VP games (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU6I4iR1VjI) killes ninja master faster than mine, i see no different but prince level, my daniella is max aff and level

actually, he doesnt. daniela didnt die because he put daniela first and katie after that (makes ninja master attack katie instead of daniela due to order of last unit placed), which I suggested

also, if doesnt work that way, place daniela then place katie
I see the reason for the delay in unit placement for the right side now (due to daniela having lower hp than bashira and killing slower), but your left side should not need the delay since you're using spica.

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 08:31 AM
So...another break? Oh boy...

I'd like to reiterate to the "plz break" group that I fucking told you so and that it wouldn't stop with just a single one-week break.

Regardless, I'll reserve my rage for whatever our one-year anniversary event will/won't be. Or in the event that this break ends up being longer than one week (this shit better not happen again).

In the meantime, I'm hoping for a star/collection event next. Maybe Claudia.

Kamahari Akuma
01-25-2016, 08:35 AM
I'd like to reiterate to the "plz break" group that I fucking told you so and that it wouldn't stop with just a one-week break.

*Hides in bunker*


Regardless, I'll reserve my rage for whatever our one-year anniversary event will/won't be. In the meantime, I'm hoping for a star/collection event next. Maybe Claudia.

There is only one event that is worthy of us all.

And that is Yurina.

lolix
01-25-2016, 08:59 AM
I'd like to reiterate to the "plz break" group that I fucking told you so and that it wouldn't stop with just a single one-week break.

Regardless, I'll reserve my rage for whatever our one-year anniversary event will/won't be. Or in the event that this break ends up being longer than one week (this shit better not happen again).

In the meantime, I'm hoping for a star/collection event next. Maybe Claudia.

i for 1 , am enjoyig the breaks. Past 2 months i raised/maxed quite a number of units , and that's okay in my eyes , considering we're close to AW. that being said , having breaks after star events and gold rushes seemed kinda pointless , i agree

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 09:03 AM
i for 1 , am enjoyig the breaks. Past 2 months i raised/maxed quite a number of units , and that's okay in my eyes , considering we're close to AW. that being said , having breaks after star events and gold rushes seemed kinda pointless , i agree

"I'm enjoying the breaks so I don't care if everyone else gets to suffer with having nothing but farming to do."

lolix
01-25-2016, 09:11 AM
"I'm enjoying the breaks so I don't care if everyone else gets to suffer with having nothing but farming to do."

"i'm not enjoying the breaks , so i don't care that others want to take advantage of said breaks , to prepare their teams for awakening"

See how that goes both ways ?

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 09:14 AM
"i'm not enjoying the breaks , so i don't care that others want to take advantage of said breaks , to prepare their teams for awakening"

See how that goes both ways ?

"I didn't use my free time during the previous star event, the gold rush, etc. and still insist to be spoonfed breaks because I can't organize my time properly."

We can go through this same song and dance again and you'd be just as wrong as last time.

lolix
01-25-2016, 09:16 AM
"I didn't use my free time during the previous star event, the gold rush, and still insist to be spoonfed breaks because I can't organize my time properly."

We can go through this same song and dance again and you'd be just as wrong as last time.

who said that i didn't ? I did , and with the exception of the 2 rogues , i got all the units in very few tries. I also said that i saw no point in giving a break after the gold rush , didn't i ?

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 09:37 AM
I said last time that the breaks were always there DURING the events, you just needed to find time for it.

Asking the devs for more breaks will only make them more complacent with not giving us anything else. Before long, we'll be going back to the two, three, six-week long breaks again. Because of people like you who are content with getting less stuff, not more.

FilthyWeeb
01-25-2016, 09:53 AM
wowsofilthy

lolix
01-25-2016, 10:00 AM
I said last time that the breaks were always there DURING the events, you just needed to find time for it.

Asking the devs for more breaks will only make them more complacent with not giving us anything else. Before long, we'll be going back to the two, three, six-week long breaks again. Because of people like you who are content with getting less stuff, not more.


first of all , that's just speculation.
Second , it's more likely that they are running out of pre-aw events to give us , and they are giving us breaks in between them to gain more time to implement awakening

See how easy is to speculate ?

MalusCorvus
01-25-2016, 10:09 AM
Well, I'm new, so any event gives new stuff for me, so I'm perfectly happy and care nothing for that silly little back-and-forth. :3

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 10:11 AM
Lolwut.

Barring Yurina, they ran out of pre-AW events MONTHS ago. We've been on our own butchered schedule since we got Ada after Solano. That's not speculation.

And it was "speculation" that we'd get more than a single one-week break to begin with, while you initially said something along the lines of "a one-week break every month or so". And we're clearly past that. I'm pretty sure I have more ground to stand on than you.

lolix
01-25-2016, 10:20 AM
Lolwut.

Barring Yurina, they ran out of pre-AW events MONTHS ago. We've been on our own butchered schedule since we got Lynn after Solano. That's not speculation.

And it was "speculation" that we'd get more than a single one-week break to begin with, while you initially said something along the lines of "a one-week break every month or so". And we're clearly past that. I'm pretty sure I have more ground to stand on than you.

Speculation was the fact that they are stalling by giving us breaks after every event , to implement awakening. This is speculation , for the sole reason that we don't know what they are doing , but i see no other reason to do that , especially since there aren't that many events that can be done 100% without AW.

As for the "one week a month break" it was not a speculation. It was a suggestion , and i still stand by it. Just because we get so many breaks right now , and i had the time to max a couple of units , it doesn't mean that i completely agree with the curent state of afairs . Feel free to look on the past page , at the firt phrase you quoted me on. I clearly stated that breaks after events like gold rushes and star events are pointless.

Not sure why you're trying to place the blame on me (especially since what i suggested is different from what we have), or say that this is what i wanted. It's not. I want breaks , but not THAT often.

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 10:29 AM
Why am I blaming you? Because it's easy to make blanket statements about the opposition when the more reasonable option was to demand that our version be more like the JP's version (i.e. no breaks), and not be like you and settle for the tired, butchered version we've had for the past year.

And awakening is already approved anyway. There's no need to stall. Hell, there was no need for them to stall when they were giving us 2/3/6-week breaks either, yet they did anyway. Why should I expect now to be any different? Your "speculation" argument is flimsy at best.

lolix
01-25-2016, 10:41 AM
Why am I blaming you? Because it's easy to make blanket statements about the opposition when the more reasonable option was to demand that our version be more like the JP's version (i.e. no breaks), and not be like you and settle for the tired, butchered version we've had for the past year.

If you don't realize that we will never have what the DMM version has ( unless nutaku decides to make some pretty big changes , or banks decide that fantasy cartoons aren't representation of real life , and allow lolis in the game ) , it's your own fault.
You can always start playing on DMM , like a number of our members (sora and tenhou for example) did , and get the full experience

That being said ,there are a number of things i dislike in aigis , but having breaks from time to time wouldn't be one of them , especially if we got the "full game". Hell , i'd probably prefered breaks more often if that was the case. Seeing as it's not , i don't like having breaks as often either.


I mean literally the single difference between breaks and no breaks is what you farm. Either you farm events , or farm dailies , it makes very little difference to me. The novelity factor disapears after the first day anyway

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 10:45 AM
The loli argument has nothing to do with this argument. There's obviously been pushback on that too, so there's no need to bring it up here. I'm talking purely about event frequency.

In case you've forgotten, we still haven't had a single revival, 1.5x drop event, or anything else that could be used in place of a full-on "nothing to do but farm" break. You're telling me that you not only don't want to make a push for that, you're content with this barebones content. That's what pisses me off.

lolix
01-25-2016, 10:52 AM
The loli argument has nothing to do with this argument. There's obviously been pushback on that too, so there's no need to bring it up here. I'm talking purely about event frequency.

In case you've forgotten, we still haven't had a single revival, 1.5x drop event, or anything else that could be used in place of a full-on "nothing to do but farm" break. You're telling me that you not only don't want to make a push for that, you're content with this barebones content. That's what pisses me off.

No. I'm not. Obviously. Not sure were in my posts ever saw me saying that i don't want new content. What i'm saying is that i want new content , but i also want the time to god damn use the units i got from said events. And that will require at times a break to catch up , especially if you had 2-3 events without a break (which is what i suggested in the first place).
What i don't understand is how can you want event after event after event without ever having the chance to use the units you got from them. Especially since events bring forth just another map to farm. You can't tell me that you enjoy doing the same map over and over for a week. After the first day , i'm already bored by the event maps. Event maps don't bring me any joy or entertainment. What keeps me goign are the units.

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 11:14 AM
The event maps are the means to get AND use new units.

For example, I had no trouble integrating Shiho into my party during Solano's event by leveling her during her event and CC'ing her by the time Len's event rolled around. I didn't even use plat fairies to combine my Shihos, I just used the SCs I got from her maps to keep farming copies of her. And Len was obviously a low-priority event unit, so I stopped after a certain milestone and used the rest of my charisma/stamina on the usual.

Likewise for Solano with Ada's event and onwards. I didn't bust my ass to bring her up to speed. It happened naturally from the downtime DURING events.

Even now, with Azami being the lackluster unit she is, I'm using this time to farm Harissas for future CC/AW purposes. I can't do that on a break. I even get the chance to get more exp armors and DCs on the side. Other event maps drop a few affection items here and there as well. So I still get a nice mix of drops without having to sacrifice a week of doing nothing but farming.

Which leads us right back to the "take a break DURING events" argument that you kept ignoring last time and apparently this time as well.

You claim to find events boring, but you can't tell me you use new units in your Phalanx 2 runs or dailies. You likely have afk strategies for them already. And I'm sure you do commissions as well.

Breaks are nothing but afk weeks. Events are what you use to experiment your new units on. If you can't find the time to prioritize and level the event units that are actually useful, that's your fault. And you only drag down the game by constantly clamoring for more breaks.

Anonymous
01-25-2016, 11:56 AM
At this point I wish breakfaggots would just fuck off and die. I've had enough of these weeks of nothing.

Unregistered
01-25-2016, 01:08 PM
At this point I wish breakfaggots would just fuck off and die. I've had enough of these weeks of nothing.

we're literally in the middle of an event. lol.

Also as a newbie , i kinda don't mind breaks. I need some time to raise my bernice and fedora anyway.

lolix
01-25-2016, 01:12 PM
At this point I wish breakfaggots would just fuck off and die. I've had enough of these weeks of nothing.

well , luckly for us , we don't care about the opinions of cowards.

MalusCorvus
01-25-2016, 01:51 PM
At this point I wish breakfaggots would just fuck off and die. I've had enough of these weeks of nothing.

You could always find something to do with your life other than MWA.

Tfmtfm
01-25-2016, 01:58 PM
You could always find something to do with your life other than MWA.
This

/end Thread Derail

namhoang909
01-25-2016, 02:00 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100005533602152/videos/469846936543089/?l=8878658342824295414
lol finally made it, however i really doubt if i could handle ninja master on right side without activate daniella :(

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 02:06 PM
You could always find something to do with your life other than MWA.

Cool false dichotomy, bro.

You can have a life and still easily be unhappy with the current state of affairs.

Even with events, it's not like Aigis takes up a lot of your time.

The question is whether you can get enjoyment out of that time. And if you suffered through the early months of 2-3 week breaks every event and/or the six-week break between Rowanna/Odette, then you'd find these breaks dull as hell too.

MalusCorvus
01-25-2016, 03:08 PM
Cool false dichotomy, bro.

You can have a life and still easily be unhappy with the current state of affairs.

Never said it was a dichotomy. But if someone has enough time on their hands to be dissatisfied with having nothing new on a single game for a week, and complain about it on places where it won't make a difference, then I'm not quite sympathetic. I especially don't care for those who initiate back-and-forth jabs with others for perceived statements about... you know, I honestly don't care what you were going on about back there, it's entirely too worthless to care.

Of course, I was also addressing that individual in question, who had entirely too harsh words to say about those who disagreed with him. I've never been much for hyperbole, but still.

Pyonification
01-25-2016, 03:57 PM
#sob

I only got 4 Samurais. Bringing me to 6 total Samurais for my Awakening quota. And I need 9!!
(Even though Sanosuke is clearly an Ashigaru before CC, but whatever!!)

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 04:18 PM
Never said it was a dichotomy. But if someone has enough time on their hands to be dissatisfied with having nothing new on a single game for a week, and complain about it on places where it won't make a difference, then I'm not quite sympathetic. I especially don't care for those who initiate back-and-forth jabs with others for perceived statements about... you know, I honestly don't care what you were going on about back there, it's entirely too worthless to care.

Of course, I was also addressing that individual in question, who had entirely too harsh words to say about those who disagreed with him. I've never been much for hyperbole, but still.

The implication is there for everyone to see. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother to address him at all, would you?

I too enjoy passive-aggressive posting for the sake of killing time at work. At least, that's what I was doing. Not sure what it is you think you're doing.

Kamahari Akuma
01-25-2016, 04:33 PM
*looks at previous posts*

Dear Aigis.

Azami's event is so evil its causing her event thread to go into the break/no break arguement again!

*Fortifies bunker*


#sob

I only got 4 Samurais. Bringing me to 6 total Samurais for my Awakening quota. And I need 9!!
(Even though Sanosuke is clearly an Ashigaru before CC, but whatever!!)

At least you got more than one Sanosuke.

Other than the one I just kept getting more Azami drops than him. Clearly their drop rates are reversed. :(

Daverost
01-25-2016, 04:33 PM
"i'm not enjoying the breaks , so i don't care that others want to take advantage of said breaks , to prepare their teams for awakening"

See how that goes both ways ?

That's the best you've got? I've been working on that during events. I've leveled up four AW fodder units in the last few days alone. While doing this event. And I also capped out Bernice's level during this event.

I'm also free-to-play, not buying gems to fuel extra farming.

Just learn to be efficient and everyone can stop wishing for the death of this game by asking for less content instead of more.

Kuremisago
01-25-2016, 04:49 PM
Azami's event is so evil its causing her event thread to go into the break/no break arguement again!


Yup. Meanwhile, over on the eng wiki, people are shitflinging about how Azami is useless/not useless again.

Pyonification
01-25-2016, 04:50 PM
At least you got more than one Sanosuke.

Other than the one I just kept getting more Azami drops than him. Clearly their drop rates are reversed. :(

Yeah, I got 4 Azamis too. Still sitting the fence to either combine them just for the sake of it, or buy a Saki and feed the houghtless ninja to Saki.


*The stuff he said here*
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MalusCorvus
01-25-2016, 04:51 PM
The implication is there for everyone to see. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother to address him at all, would you?

I too enjoy passive-aggressive posting for the sake of killing time at work. At least, that's what I was doing. Not sure what it is you think you're doing.

I think I'm wasting my time with this "conversation."



Wish I had something relevant to post, but alas. This seems like the final day (for me) of the event, so... I guess I'll try to do True Duty of the Ninja sometime tonight, hopefully that won't end in tears. I do have 3 out of 5 Azamis, however, so I'm quite happy.

Eab1990
01-25-2016, 04:56 PM
At least you're self-aware.

AzureWinter
01-25-2016, 09:32 PM
I think I shall give up trying to 3 star True Duty of the Ninja X, since I can't even manage to clear it.
All the other ones were quite reasonable up until that one. I'm following the guides for it but I just can't keep my units alive.
At least I have a few copies of Azami, so I'm not empty handed. Good event other than the last actual mission,

namhoang909
01-25-2016, 10:11 PM
I think I shall give up trying to 3 star True Duty of the Ninja X, since I can't even manage to clear it.
All the other ones were quite reasonable up until that one. I'm following the guides for it but I just can't keep my units alive.
At least I have a few copies of Azami, so I'm not empty handed. Good event other than the last actual mission,

well i just almost acted like you until i spent 93 sc for the spotlight, lol

Kamahari Akuma
01-25-2016, 10:15 PM
I think I shall give up trying to 3 star True Duty of the Ninja X, since I can't even manage to clear it.
All the other ones were quite reasonable up until that one. I'm following the guides for it but I just can't keep my units alive.
At least I have a few copies of Azami, so I'm not empty handed. Good event other than the last actual mission,

Admittedly, its an annoying as hell map do deal with.

More or less it possibly needs capped out healers to keep anything alive, though if you have good units with dodge skills or inherit class abilities it might tip the scales in your favor.

After all, they can't paralyze what they can't hit. *Rubs 5/5 Skill lv Olivie lovingly*

namhoang909
01-25-2016, 11:41 PM
again, i have to ask is level of player has anything to do with prince beside tittle, i tried to do "dance with the tentacle" and it seemed easier then previous one until 2 samurai followed by 2 ninja master came, the prince can not handle ninja master fast enough so 1 escaped and screwed the game :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F3T1hslgjg in this prince has to kill 1 samurai and 2 ninja master

Tfmtfm
01-25-2016, 11:46 PM
Admittedly, its an annoying as hell map do deal with.

More or less it possibly needs capped out healers to keep anything alive, though if you have good units with dodge skills or inherit class abilities it might tip the scales in your favor.

After all, they can't paralyze what they can't hit. *Rubs 5/5 Skill lv Olivie lovingly*
I managed to 3-star it by mostly following key kii's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiIKPtLp5t0) with two exceptions: When the 2nd Wave hits I dueled the Ninja Masters with whatever I had to duel with so they never threatened the left side (50CC31 Rika, 50CC35 Kerry), and I swapped out the right archer with a Mage.

MalusCorvus
01-25-2016, 11:54 PM
All right, quick opinion: I have not yet undertaken True Art of the Ninja. Its 7 Stamina cost means I only have enough stam for one run, and I'd best make it count. But I'm not sure if my troops are ready.

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/01/26/4UQ5fFB.jpg

This is my team, assuming I can upload an image properly. Though I think we only have an hour left, I was wondering if anyone could give a definite yay or nay as to whether I should go for it...

Also, uploading that image was way more hassle than it needed to be...

Pyonification
01-26-2016, 12:06 AM
I was wondering if anyone could give a definite yay or nay as to whether I should go for it...
DO IT!
You're gonna have to sit out once 2am rolls in and you got less than 50 minutes!
DO IT! YOU CAN FUCKING DO IT

Just pause if you must, plan accordingly, hammer out those Reinforcements from Katie, bank on those assassinates, spam abilities as soon as they come up.
Mephlis might be able to snipe some Ninjas with her increased range

I believe in you bro, You can body every Ninja that rolls in!

Watch the video on page one religiously and study the fuck out of it. CC'd army of silvers? pfft, who needs that you're good! You can do it man!

namhoang909
01-26-2016, 12:11 AM
All right, quick opinion: I have not yet undertaken True Art of the Ninja. Its 7 Stamina cost means I only have enough stam for one run, and I'd best make it count. But I'm not sure if my troops are ready.

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/01/26/4UQ5fFB.jpg

This is my team, assuming I can upload an image properly. Though I think we only have an hour left, I was wondering if anyone could give a definite yay or nay as to whether I should go for it...

Also, uploading that image was way more hassle than it needed to be...

just record it, ok?

MalusCorvus
01-26-2016, 12:12 AM
DO IT!
You're gonna have to sit out once 2am rolls in and you got less than 50 minutes!
DO IT! YOU CAN FUCKING DO IT

Just pause if you must, plan accordingly, hammer out those Reinforcements from Katie, bank on those assassinates, spam abilities as soon as they come up.
Mephlis might be able to snipe some Ninjas with her increased range

I believe in you bro, You can body every Ninja that rolls in!

Watch the video on page one religiously and study the fuck out of it. CC'd army of silvers? pfft, who needs that you're good! You can do it man!

Study religiously? Talk about last-minute cramming... all right, here goes.


just record it, ok?

Oh gods, if I knew how, I would!

soranokira
01-26-2016, 12:20 AM
no i doubt your team is strong enough. you dont have the right cc'd units.

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@namho prince level does affect at certain thresholds. lvl 192 prince gets big hero title (2% more boost from skill, from 19% to 21%), and every 25 levels after level 100 prince gets a slight stat boost as well.

lolix
01-26-2016, 12:20 AM
That's the best you've got? I've been working on that during events. I've leveled up four AW fodder units in the last few days alone. While doing this event. And I also capped out Bernice's level during this event.

I'm also free-to-play, not buying gems to fuel extra farming.

Just learn to be efficient and everyone can stop wishing for the death of this game by asking for less content instead of more.

literally all the units i use right now are AW ready (assuming you don't need max skill level) , so efficiency has nothing to do with it. Also asking for breaks from time to time =/= asking for breaks after each event. I don't like the curent situation either


All right, quick opinion: I have not yet undertaken True Art of the Ninja. Its 7 Stamina cost means I only have enough stam for one run, and I'd best make it count. But I'm not sure if my troops are ready.

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/01/26/4UQ5fFB.jpg

This is my team, assuming I can upload an image properly. Though I think we only have an hour left, I was wondering if anyone could give a definite yay or nay as to whether I should go for it...

Also, uploading that image was way more hassle than it needed to be...

Your team won't be able to do it. don't waste stamina on it

Tfmtfm
01-26-2016, 12:31 AM
No chance. Not only are there not enough tanks CC'd, you don't have the Archer/Healing Power. I gave up on Dance of the Tentacles G because after 5 Failures you get a sense of what you lack... trust me, don't waste the Stamina.

namhoang909
01-26-2016, 12:32 AM
no i doubt your team is strong enough. you dont have the right cc'd units.

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@namho prince level does affect at certain thresholds. lvl 192 prince gets big hero title (2% more boost from skill, from 19% to 21%), and every 25 levels after level 100 prince gets a slight stat boost as well.

okay, next time i won't believe these guide too much kei kii still use "savior" but his prince can kill 3, mine only 2 apparently player's level

MalusCorvus
01-26-2016, 12:33 AM
I should have waited, like, five minutes before trying. The last people to post were completely correct. I got completely steamrolled.

And I recorded it.

Unregistered
01-26-2016, 02:35 AM
okay, next time i won't believe these guide too much kei kii still use "savior" but his prince can kill 3, mine only 2 apparently player's level
Had the same issue, but it can be done by placing a somewhat tanky and cheap unit behind the prince.


I should have waited, like, five minutes before trying. The last people to post were completely correct. I got completely steamrolled.

I'm not sure how you missed the sarcasm in Pyonification's post, or how you didn't notice that the video guides use full CC teams (which was also mentioned in that post). But hey, you learn from mistakes.
On another note, why the hell did you CC Crave (especially with Katie still un-CC'd)?

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okay, next time i won't believe these guide too much kei kii still use "savior" but his prince can kill 3, mine only 2 apparently player's level
Had the same issue, but it can be done by placing a somewhat tanky and cheap unit behind the prince.


I should have waited, like, five minutes before trying. The last people to post were completely correct. I got completely steamrolled.

I'm not sure how you missed the sarcasm in Pyonification's post, or how you didn't notice that the video guides use full CC teams (which was also mentioned in that post). But hey, you learn from mistakes.
On another note, why the hell did you CC Crave (especially with Katie still un-CC'd)? And you CR'd your silvers... Might as well restart lol.

MalusCorvus
01-26-2016, 03:08 AM
I'm not sure how you missed the sarcasm in Pyonification's post, or how you didn't notice that the video guides use full CC teams (which was also mentioned in that post). But hey, you learn from mistakes.

If it was sarcasm, it was literally the most obtuse and not-obvious sarcasm I've seen in my life, the likes of which will never be surpassed.


On another note, why the hell did you CC Crave (especially with Katie still un-CC'd)? And you CR'd your silvers... Might as well restart lol.

I was young! I was innocent! And I did the things the game encouraged me to do.

And... Restart? And lose a month's worth of work? Fuck no. I'd like to believe this game is slightly more forgiving than that. Yeah, Crave was a mistake, but a calculated one. An experiment, if you will. As for lowering the cost of my silvers, I don't regret that for a moment.

Unregistered
01-26-2016, 03:58 AM
You will regret it soon enough. You need 3 silvers to CC a plat, and past the initial story rewards silvers are quite hard to get unless you are willing to spend money on the gacha (in which case you should just remake your account in the first place imo). Do you have enough silvers left to CC Katie, Iris, Alissa, Mehlis, Valerie, Cloris, Calliope and Bashira? If yes you will have a decent core team at least, but you will still struggle to CC event units/potential gacha plats.

Askeladd
01-26-2016, 04:13 AM
Sorry for bringing back a certain topic that has already been discussed but I'm starting to be fed up with these breaks. Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing for new players or players that need to get some of their new units ready. Also, I completely agree on the fact that if we are going to have any form of break, the best place for it to be is after a farming event, not a star collection event or a gold rush. If the circumnstances were not these, I wouldn't even be bothered because we are leaving a farming event behind (managed to up my Saki to 3/5 and max CR my Azami with 4/5 skill, guessed I could try maxing her withouth spending any extra resource to see if she is of any use in future events considering I already have Hina and Saki and besides, I had nothing better to do with my resources).

The problem here is that we had a gold rush event before this... which happened to have a break after it... which happened to be during Christmas and we didn't get any form of freebies or event related to it (I can even understand the event problem, but no freebies? Come on Nutaku, you even gave us some SC during Black Friday). Now? another break. At this point in time I'm not even sure if the issue is DMM failing to provide updates for Nutaku because of certain reasons or the people at Nutaku being lazy asses and simply not caring for the player base in MWA. Just take a look at most other Nutaku games... the events are almost nonstop constantly and they are even popping out new games like the world was going to end next month. I'm currently only playing MWA and this trend kind of infuriates me. Should I start the game today, I would've started it in DMM.

End of rant. I don't want to start another discussion like the one before, but feel free to discuss this if you want to.

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 05:32 AM
>maintenance ends
>oh look it's fucking nothing


literally all the units i use right now are AW ready (assuming you don't need max skill level) , so efficiency has nothing to do with it. Also asking for breaks from time to time =/= asking for breaks after each event. I don't like the curent situation either

He said "AW fodder units". You have golds/30CC'd silvers sitting around? Hell, you have 100 DC for every unit you plan to AW?


If it was sarcasm, it was literally the most obtuse and not-obvious sarcasm I've seen in my life, the likes of which will never be surpassed.

I guess I gave you too much credit. That was a pretty obvious fake motivational post.

Pyonification
01-26-2016, 08:17 AM
Morning people!

For those saying I was being sarcastic, I actually meant the stuff.

To me, defeat only comes when everyone's dead and the giant "You lose" screen is up. People in Dota hate me for it. Evidently, so will Malus since I wasted his Stamina.

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 08:33 AM
False hope may as well be sarcasm!

Pyonification
01-26-2016, 08:40 AM
False hope may as well be sarcasm!

False hope is all I have to ride on!

lolix
01-26-2016, 09:55 AM
>
He said "AW fodder units". You have golds/30CC'd silvers sitting around? Hell, you have 100 DC for every unit you plan to AW?




No , not cc-ed , yet a have a crapload of fodder , except for archers.

EDIT: As for dc's , well , i have enough to insta AW 2 unit on 1 account , and enough for 3 on the other , seeing as i don't see saki a priority right now. Hell , i might wait to awaken some units first , then buy chydis , and then get saki. Other then some niche maps ,were u can;t use archers (like the monk event) , i fail to see me needing more ranged prowess. I mean , between maxed spica , lvl 60 bashira , and maxed nanly , and the 2 magic fencers which i got on both accounts (and with the exception of 1 charlote that is cr 3 , the rest are mincosted) , i fail to see the need for a saki asap.

So , yes i'm decently ready for AW. more so then most people. But what i lack the most is gold for example and spirits/aff items , which this break is giving me an oportunity to max. And obviously more dcs

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 10:14 AM
I'm pretty sure most of us can AW at least one unit off the bat because of how many breaks we've had.

I can definitely AW two, maybe even three of my princesses ASAP. Sybilla and Lilia are top priority for me, and I've got their CC'd soldier/valk/witch ready. I could AW Themis if I wanted to too. Not my second Sybilla though, she's not capped yet.

I've got a bunch of other 30CC'd classes set up too, but I'm lacking in archers and I still need to set up more rogues/pirates/samurai. Beyond that, my next priority is Betty, Shiho, Solano, and Rika, though I need to finish capping all of them first.

And I'm up to 900 DCs again.

lolix
01-26-2016, 10:25 AM
I'm pretty sure most of us can AW at least one unit off the bat because of how many breaks we've had.

I can definitely AW two, maybe even three of my princesses ASAP. Sybilla and Lilia are top priority for me, and I've got their CC'd soldier/valk/witch ready. I could AW Themis if I wanted to too. Not my second Sybilla though, she's not capped yet.

I've got a bunch of other 30CC'd classes set up too, but I'm lacking in archers and I still need to set up more rogues/pirates/samurai. Beyond that, my next priority is Betty, Shiho, Solano, and Rika, though I need to finish capping all of them first.

And I'm up to 900 DCs again.

I'm assuming you've played even before the big break before odette's event. ANd that you're also a paying user. I didn't played in that big period of breaks , and i'm a non paying user.
Actually , i'm guessing that's the main reason you don't care about breaks. Regardless , how many do you think have your resources ....even on this forum ? Probably the few long standing forum users like lafate , charles , tenhou and a few others. The majority of the people that didn't played during the big break are probably at the same spot as i am .....or worse. I'm willing to bet that worse , since i've been quite active , and rarely wasted my stamina/charisma

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 10:38 AM
I'm assuming you've played even before the big break before odette's event. ANd that you're also a paying user. I didn't played in that big period of breaks , and i'm a non paying user.
Actually , i'm guessing that's the main reason you don't care about breaks. Regardless , how many do you think have your resources ....even on this forum ? Probably the few long standing forum users like lafate , charles , tenhou and a few others. The majority of the people that didn't played during the big break are probably at the same spot as i am .....or worse. I'm willing to bet that worse , since i've been quite active , and rarely wasted my stamina/charisma

Bravo, you deduced something that was incredibly obvious. I would've thought me being one of the few people above level 200 was enough of an indicator of how I've been a day one paying player.

But it should be a no-brainer that I'm complaining about breaks now because I suffered through longer breaks back then. I thought I made that clear last time too.

Yes, new players can benefit from the breaks. That's not the fucking point. Once again, that's NOT how the game is supposed to work. Besides the gold rush, the game's pace is not supposed to slow down for new players. Instead of having more events and more things to look forward to, more breaks means everyone ends up hitting a wall sooner or later and having nothing but farming to do. Why do you think more and more people are complaining about the frequent delays?

ZeroZet
01-26-2016, 10:43 AM
Breaks a GODSEND to any new player. Its their only hope to catch up in any reasonable timeframe (for free). Even for old-timers its a chance to properly level, smother and play-test their new shiny girlfriend, integrating her into their strategies.

That being said, boosted drops on a break week would be much welcome, but alas, it is not a thing in our version.


Oh, maybe if we just have events extended for anotheer week (to become two weeks total instead of one), it would satisfy everyone? )



ЗЫ. Have you seen the Nutaku main page rotating banner?! It is coming!!! XD

Tenhou
01-26-2016, 10:46 AM
ЗЫ. Have you seen the Nutaku main page rotating banner?! It is coming!!! XD

One can hope at least.

lolix
01-26-2016, 10:50 AM
>>> i'm a wallet warrior. i give no fucks about the others <<< At least say it as it is.

1 would assume that if u have so many dc's , you're probably bathing in gold and aff items as well. I can see how that would make 1 bored when you can max units as soon as u get them. And the whole "take a break during events?" that only applies to people that can waste scs during events. Seems a bit hypocritical , considering the fact that you yourself don't to that , and just rely on the huge pool of resources that you got during another break....

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 10:52 AM
Breaks a GODSEND to any new player. Its their only hope to catch up in any reasonable timeframe (for free). Even for old-timers its a chance to properly level, smother and play-test their new shiny girlfriend, integrating her into their strategies.

That being said, boosted drops on a break week would be much welcome, but alas, it is not a thing in our version.
Oh, maybe if we just have events extended for anotheer week (to become two weeks total instead of one), it would satisfy everyone? )



ЗЫ. Have you seen the Nutaku main page rotating banner?! It is coming!!! XD

If the game slowed down for every new player that came along, we'd get nowhere.

And I don't need a week to play-test my new units. I get enough leftover charisma naturally that I can level units during an event.

Maybe if people didn't feel the need to compulsively max out every unit that they get ASAP, instead of focusing on the ones that actually matter to their team and only working on the rest when they have the spare resources, they wouldn't feel so overwhelmed all the time. Hell, there are still some silvers I haven't even CC'd/100%'d, like Dorca or most of the male silvers, because I know I won't use them.


>>> i'm a wallet warrior. i give no fucks about the others <<< At least say it as it is.

1 would assume that if u have so many dc's , you're probably bathing in gold and aff items as well. I can see how that would make 1 bored when you can max units as soon as u get them. And the whole "take a break during events?" that only applies to people that can waste scs during events. Seems a bit hypocritical , considering the fact that you yourself don't to that , and just rely on the huge pool of resources that you got during another break....

"Your opinion should be ignored because you have a distinct advantage over new/free players." kek

Gold? Yes, because I farmed Dragon Hunting endlessly pre-autocomplete and had exp/gold buff for some time, and didn't bankrupt myself trying to max out every unit. Something a lot of people, new and old, seemed to have missed is that account experience is important. From day one, I focused on leveling my Prince ASAP so that I would have more charisma and stamina by the time the later events rolled around. As a result, I didn't grind the more cost-efficient maps for leveling my units individually, meaning I didn't spend as much, so I have a bigger gold stockpile than others. And here I am. So sue me for being more prepared than the rest.

Affection? Not really, there's been a fairly steady amount of new girls coming in that Phalanx 2 runs can only cover maxing one or two girls at a given time.

I haven't cashed this month (though I have the 100 SC stamp card atm). This past event, I only used the SCs I got from three-starring each map for stam refills (and once for charisma for the G map), because I really needed Harissas. Beyond that, I still had plenty of leftover charisma for Immortal Beast farming.

I know for a fact that plenty of people took breaks on Thursday and Monday. Nothing stopping free players from taking breaks from the event.

lolix
01-26-2016, 11:06 AM
problem being that some people can't even raise their main team up since they are new.

And any game that doesn't lowers the entry bar for new players and just focuses on the older player base , will die in time for the pure reason that new players feel overwhelemed and frustrated. If , a browser game that makes most of its money from paying players , doesn't have an low entry bar for new players , it will slowly start to lose player base , since in time , even older players will stop playing (duh , that's the case for most games in general....even more so for browser games. Saw it happen many times before) , and you won't have enough newbies joining to counteract the lose of older players. If that's the case , it will , in time , become unprofitable to keep the servers running , since they don't make enough money , or the playerbase is 2 low

If you don't understand that , it's pointless.

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 11:10 AM
Even underleveled teams* could've taken on the first four maps of this event (not three-star, but enough to clear and get at least one copy of the event unit). Much like any other event. Likewise with the gold rush. And if not, there's always the cheap goddess buffs to give them an edge.

You're bullshitting yourself if you think that, without breaks, this game locks out new players to a major extent. Again, stop trying to compulsively max out everything ASAP and you won't feel so overwhelmed.

*underleveled team = high un-CC'd or only CC'd silvers/golds. If you don't have at least a few CC'd silvers, you shouldn't be taking on any event past the first or second map. And you can't be so ridiculous as to think the game needs dumbing down to that extent.

Unregistered
01-26-2016, 11:20 AM
Breaks are worthless, i started on dmm during those 6 weeks of nothing on nutaku and now i have 5 AW units and can 2-3* all god tier maps. I spend 0$ for SC so people should start to focus on most needed stuff rather than max out every unit and demand more breaks. <.<

lolix
01-26-2016, 11:21 AM
Even underleveled teams could've taken on the first four maps of this event (not three-star, but enough to clear and get at least one copy of the event unit). Much like any other event. Likewise with the gold rush.

You're bullshitting yourself if you think that, without breaks, this game locks out new players to a major extent.

mate. i had like 10 - 15 total drops in total , with 50%. Doing the first 4 maps ( I doubt they could do "the art of paralyzing" with non cc-ed units anywya , but whatever. let's say you're right) , they would have 27%. Assuming , i'm right , they would have at best 10%. the first and second have 2 and 5%....so literally pointless to even try to farm those

Still , you're suggeting to run the map a fuckload of times , just to get 1 copy (won't event start ranting how they can't even cc/su said units unless they are very very lucky, and there are a crapload of units that are useless without SU's or too expensive otherwise to deply if non-cr , so literally useless for a new player) , just to waste stamina , and get a bad unit when he's better of farming ? Obviously not. You will say that it's not worth it , and i , as a veteran player , would agree , but a newbie won't know that , therefore getting himself caught into a trap : he will waste a fuckload of resources to get a bad unit that may be situational , or not useful at all , then realize that he invested so much resources on a bad unit , and his team is way too crap to tackle the next event.

That's a pretty shity way to draw new players into the game

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 11:31 AM
Newbies shouldn't be diving straight into an event from the start to begin with. Doesn't mean they're actually barred from it.

There's a difference between being newbie-friendly and walling newbies from new content. You're suggesting it's the latter and want it to be more like the former. I'm suggesting that it's only the former, assuming the player actually does research (and the player isn't super-unlucky to never get a drop).

The difference is that making the game too newbie-friendly dumbs down the entire game. If all events were as mind-numbingly easy as the gold rush (sans Bernice's map), we'd have a lot more problems with the fundamentals of the game.

Btw, I'm pretty sure you're playing down the RNG. I got 10 copies of the event unit solely doing map 4, and on previous events, I know a handful of people who could only afford to farm the lower maps and usually still get by with at least one copy. It's far from impossible, especially if you can run the lower maps twice as much as the higher maps. Yeah, they'll obviously get less copies than if they were able to do the later maps, but getting a single copy over the course of a week? That's not a tall order.

Askeladd
01-26-2016, 12:55 PM
Even if I was a new player I would agree on having less breaks as it kind of ruins the mood of the game and the way it was originally designed to be played. Just watch the schedule for DMM: when you compare both versions it's clear that Nutaku's lacking in a lot of departments compared to DMM's. However, there are some factors that explain many of these lacks:

1. The infamous loli debate. Japan is Japan and we are not Japan. The lolis are a delicate issue in (most I would assume) our countries and it is only natural that Nutaku tries to avoid any problems by just not putting them into the game. Some suggestions (I even suggested it a long time ago) include banning the H-scenes for these lolis but I think the major problem here is that this is a game with H scenes and this means that the information could be misunderstood sometimes ("omg there is a loli in here you sickos bla bla"). However, we already have Hina and Shiho in the game. I know they are not the "loliest" of them all but to be honest I do think they became a bunch of lazy asses regarding this issue and it's easier to just "ban" content and move on. Less work for them. And considering Shiho and Hina are already in the game, I'm pretty sure DMM has nothing to do with this.

2. Japan. That country has a lot of things to offer that other countries simply can't. One of them is this kind of games. The market there is fierce which means developers have to step up and spoil their players in order to keep them from switching to another game. This kind of problem also arose when I played Brave Frontier almost one year ago and it was the exact same problem: the international market for this kind of product is just starting to grow, while in Japan it's already an all-out war between the companies. Yes, Nutaku's version of MWA is inferior to DMM's by a longshot but it's only natural: after all it's nothing more that the offspring of it, living in a much less dangerous world.

Aside from that, there was a time in this version when the breaks were just unexplainable (the infamous Odette break, I started playing during Echidna's event so I haven't missed that much), but you could easily blame it on the game being on it's first steps and trying to look for a way to grow. That way was found and the events kept happening. However and as far as I can't remember, the schedules have been an absolute mess. Do you want breaks? Sure, I can understand and I'm not against it. But this game has the events planned in a way that some of them require less effort than the others. Many events in this game are farm-based which require a lot of investment if you want not only the unit but a perfect/near-perfect/improved unit (or just some extra silvers or goodies). These events are a great excuse to put a break after them, but having breaks after star events or gold rushes is simply stupid: it stalls the game too much, it bores a good chunk of the players and can lead to some of them quitting.

The idea of this game is to be f2p for everyone, but if you want to have everything as perfected as possible, you will have to go into the dark side and become a p2w player. Once you have a good team it's possible to go for a near-perfect or a perfect unit without spending anything, but other events such as Len's or Karma's will require to be in the dark path to achieve a perfect success. It's the nature of these kinds of games: some of them are more relentless on this aspect, some of them are less.

I can understand all that, but the path Nutaku is taking with MWA is simply stupid. There has to be something behind it, some sort of problem because it doesn't make any sense. To hace a Black Friday event with some free SC's and completely forget Christmas/New Year is just plain dumb and it makes no sense from a company pov. They "compensate" us with the fabled gold rush with extra days so we can farm our desired golds to... grant us a pointless break. Yes, some of you will think that it was a good idea with such low fairy rates, but I'm starting to think it was done on purpose to have a reason to put a break after the event (which gave them an effective 3-week time to plan things). They delivered Azami and there is still no Awakening in sight, a feature we should have gotten some time ago judging by the event order (which is also completely botched and I'm not talking only about the loli issue here). Either Nutaku has a real problem with MWA or they are making fun of us.

Having said all this I enjoy the game because I can play it twice a day most days and be efficient with my resources. Once you pass a certain threshold, the game isn't as time-consuming as it used to be (especially with the inclusion of Comission Sortie, oh the pain these past times without that glorious feature...). However, I think that, if Nutaku are deciding all of this without a good reason to, they will regret it in the near future because people will get eventually bored of the game and move on. I mean, it's not as bad as the first months of the game but they had an excuse back then. Which is their excuse now? They've got to have one!

AzureWinter
01-26-2016, 02:17 PM
well i just almost acted like you until i spent 93 sc for the spotlight, lol
Uh, Cool? Congrats...? ;<.<


Admittedly, its an annoying as hell map do deal with.

More or less it possibly needs capped out healers to keep anything alive, though if you have good units with dodge skills or inherit class abilities it might tip the scales in your favor.

After all, they can't paralyze what they can't hit. *Rubs 5/5 Skill lv Olivie lovingly*

It truly is. My two archers (Except Spica whom I just got, and lack enough silvers to CC), Pallis and Katie are the only units I have level capped. Working on my healers and tank now.
I managed to get 5 extra copies of Azami. But now my unit list is completely full. There's a few extra silvers I dont really need right now, like the silver Lancer, and several silver bandits. When is the best time to combine them to reduce CR and up skills? After CC? And how, do I just combine the one copy of her with nothing else?

Kamahari Akuma
01-26-2016, 06:55 PM
It truly is. My two archers (Except Spica whom I just got, and lack enough silvers to CC), Pallis and Katie are the only units I have level capped. Working on my healers and tank now.
I managed to get 5 extra copies of Azami. But now my unit list is completely full. There's a few extra silvers I dont really need right now, like the silver Lancer, and several silver bandits. When is the best time to combine them to reduce CR and up skills? After CC? And how, do I just combine the one copy of her with nothing else?

If the question is CCing Azami...

Step 1: Is Saki a purchase in the near future for you? If yes, get her and throw all but one Azami into Saki. If no, proceed to step 2.

Step 2: Go ahead and pick one Azami to funnel all her clones into.

Its worthy to note that both Azami and Saki don't have a skill change after CC, so any skill lvs gained won't be lost in transition.

Btw, define several silver bandits. If you are rolling in silver bandits, take some of the clones and put them into the main ones for free CRs and skill lvs. Assuming you don't have better bandits than Eunice and Mortimer the both of them are decent as anti-lich sledgehammers.

Edit: Just make sure to leave like 4 or so bandits as spares for CCs though. You'd be surprised what can need a silver bandit for CC.

slyyr
01-26-2016, 09:26 PM
I was able to use my new account created on Saturday to farm maps 1 and 2 easily. It couldn't handle map 3. I couldn't get Azami to drop but I got a nice CR Bronze Ninja for my male team out of it.

kayfabe
01-26-2016, 10:39 PM
Even as a free player I rather disagree with lolix regarding breaks. I understand that there's a sense of feeling left out when events are going and you're struggling with the top level maps. However, if you can just manage to perfect clear 2 or 3 of the early maps you're still effectively increasing your SC income by 50% for the month. Furthermore, I also think it's somewhat foolish to act as if lower tier map drops are completely useless to farm due to low event unit drop rates. For example, I personally chose to more or less punt on getting a good Ada, Charlotte, Azami or Rikka but I went ahead and spent Saturdays & Sundays farming the lower end maps anyway. I did the same thing with Horace and Solano events too. Why? Because 10% drop rates on silver units isn't so bad when you're only spending somewhere from 20-30 charisma and 1-3 stamina to enter the maps in the first place. This has allowed me to do silly crap like perfect Phyllis but still have 13 silver soldiers waiting in the wings to serve as Awakening & CC fodder--I've still got a half dozen Rosalies collecting dust and I wasn't even around during the Faerie Village event.

Eab1990
01-26-2016, 10:46 PM
I was able to use my new account created on Saturday to farm maps 1 and 2 easily. It couldn't handle map 3. I couldn't get Azami to drop but I got a nice CR Bronze Ninja for my male team out of it.

IMO, this event's map 3 was tougher than usual. The ninjas that throw the larger shuriken hit pretty hard and can decimate ranged units pretty quickly.

On the other hand, map 4 was much easier than the usual map 4 difficulty. Still probably a tall hurdle for new players, but still much more manageable compared to other events.

namhoang909
01-26-2016, 10:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100005533602152/videos/470238053170644/?l=3713624523824933126 compare to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNwki-K78H8
i think i have better unit and still lose' cause i hardly deal with rush

soranokira
01-27-2016, 02:46 AM
https://www.facebook.com/100005533602152/videos/470238053170644/?l=3713624523824933126 compare to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNwki-K78H8
i think i have better unit and still lose' cause i hardly deal with rush

your failure to understand how the game mechanics work make me unable to see how you can possibly carry on following these guide videos. you're not even trying to understand what happens at every point in time and why the units are placed the way they are.

namhoang909
01-27-2016, 05:09 AM
your failure to understand how the game mechanics work make me unable to see how you can possibly carry on following these guide videos. you're not even trying to understand what happens at every point in time and why the units are placed the way they are.

i just read and find out lich will attack unit placed last, so only one question left, why my 2 mages can not handle big trolls fast enough

soranokira
01-27-2016, 05:32 AM
i just read and find out lich will attack unit placed last, so only one question left, why my 2 mages can not handle big trolls fast enough

no idea why your mages couldnt kill the old man mage within 2 hits, allowing him to blast your units twice. try using a better mage. also, more importantly, his phyllis was 100% aff and your phyllis obviously has 0. I saw your phyllis with only 220+ def while etheternal's vid has phyllis at 308 def. (all with prince buff)

next time, don't only look at unit levels. you're doing nothing but following blindly. look at the stats of the units in the video and compare them to your own. you can easily see stats when the video clicks on the unit to withdraw or to use a skill (have to calculate their stats by 100/119 or 100/121 when prince is deployed in the video)

You need to learn to be flexible and see for yourself what you're doing wrong vs what happens at that point in the guide video. sometimes, deploy stronger units than in the video (or weaker ones, for lower cost to manage cost issues) so that things are easier, and so on.

Askeladd
01-27-2016, 05:40 AM
You deployed Eunice too late, which means liches fired a free round to your Alyssa. That ruined the target priority of all your healers and your timings with deployments as well. That's why liches slowly started destroying your army, one by one. Losing Katie fairly early on is not an issue since you had enough UP to take on the liches. The problem with that map is that completing it with those units is like cooking a good dish: you have to be methodic and spot on with your decisions. One mistake, and your plan will be ruined as you saw.

3 mages can wipe the bulk of enemies that come before the liches. You have to focus on deployment and withdrawal to keep those pesky liches entertained with beefy units. Your Alyssa can take up to 2 shots, but not more than that. On the mages: we would need to know their affection aside from the level. Male units tend to have better base stats but less trust growth, while females have worse base stats but better affection growth. The reason why Eth uses 3 Valeries is to use their skill to quickly clean the clusterfuck at the end and focus on dealing with these liches as fast as possible.

namhoang909
01-27-2016, 06:06 AM
no idea why your mages couldnt kill the old man mage within 2 hits, allowing him to blast your units twice. try using a better mage. also, more importantly, his phyllis was 100% aff and your phyllis obviously has 0. I saw your phyllis with only 220+ def while etheternal's vid has phyllis at 308 def. (all with prince buff)

next time, don't only look at unit levels. you're doing nothing but following blindly. look at the stats of the units in the video and compare them to your own. you can easily see stats when the video clicks on the unit to withdraw or to use a skill (have to calculate their stats by 100/119 or 100/121 when prince is deployed in the video)

You need to learn to be flexible and see for yourself what you're doing wrong vs what happens at that point in the guide video. sometimes, deploy stronger units than in the video (or weaker ones, for lower cost to manage cost issues) so that things are easier, and so on.
ok i'll check stat in that video again, i use phyllis mostly for the spirit rescue h that's why i didn't think about her aff
another thing cuterie can not be deployed in sky fallen gift so only challenge quest or maybe if lucky event right?

You deployed Eunice too late, which means liches fired a free round to your Alyssa. That ruined the target priority of all your healers and your timings with deployments as well. That's why liches slowly started destroying your army, one by one. Losing Katie fairly early on is not an issue since you had enough UP to take on the liches. The problem with that map is that completing it with those units is like cooking a good dish: you have to be methodic and spot on with your decisions. One mistake, and your plan will be ruined as you saw.

3 mages can wipe the bulk of enemies that come before the liches. You have to focus on deployment and withdrawal to keep those pesky liches entertained with beefy units. Your Alyssa can take up to 2 shots, but not more than that. On the mages: we would need to know their affection aside from the level. Male units tend to have better base stats but less trust growth, while females have worse base stats but better affection growth. The reason why Eth uses 3 Valeries is to use their skill to quickly clean the clusterfuck at the end and focus on dealing with these liches as fast as possible.

i am not good at dealing with number, when they come that many and so strong i feel terrified so best strategy to me is the one that i don't need to change unit so much in short time and looks like only platinum battle master with platinum healer can make it

Askeladd
01-27-2016, 06:28 AM
Cuterie can apply her passive by just being in the team. You don't need to deploy her.

As for Immortal Beast just give it a try every once in a while and focus on those quick switches and when do enemies appear. Learn the visual hints and you will slowly get the gist of it and get better at dealing with these situations. Also, as soranokira said, up that Phyllis affection to 100%.

namhoang909
01-27-2016, 06:41 AM
Cuterie can apply her passive by just being in the team. You don't need to deploy her.

As for Immortal Beast just give it a try every once in a while and focus on those quick switches and when do enemies appear. Learn the visual hints and you will slowly get the gist of it and get better at dealing with these situations. Also, as soranokira said, up that Phyllis affection to 100%.

you guys really make a good point I checked apparently my cced 50 pallis has less damage, could it be different in damage when cc i mean my cc-ed pallis after minus 51 damage bonus by aff, she has only 341 instead of 350 and only mistake i've made is with allisa when cc-ed her at 31
and for the stage since one of my healer not function very well could it be compensated by gold and 1 silver with 100% aff, Eth has his Leeanne with 1.4 def increase when activate, mine only 1.2 if it's not i will try with my bernice and dragon princess shaman, both have higher cost especially the dragon shaman

no pallis has 341 i just look at comment

Askeladd
01-27-2016, 07:04 AM
Pallis is superior to Valerie when you need that extra push in dps with her active. Other than that, Valerie should be your go-to unit in these situations. Being a male unit means that he will probably have better base stats (my 50cc50 Valerie has almost 550 ATK with max lvl Prince + Savior title iirc) and he is superior in this map because his skill allows him to clean bigger waves faster (and you also have a Barbie, which is essentially an upgraded Valerie).

Bernice is a really good choice and you won't regret it. You can manage these additional costs by making sure Katie stays alive after the Troll gank squad so she can pop up an extra skill for +15 UP. Remember that Echidna has a bit less range than normal healers. Take that into consideration when planning to deploy her.

AzureWinter
01-27-2016, 07:32 PM
well i just almost acted like you until i spent 93 sc for the spotlight, lol


If the question is CCing Azami...

Step 1: Is Saki a purchase in the near future for you? If yes, get her and throw all but one Azami into Saki. If no, proceed to step 2.

Step 2: Go ahead and pick one Azami to funnel all her clones into.

Its worthy to note that both Azami and Saki don't have a skill change after CC, so any skill lvs gained won't be lost in transition.

Btw, define several silver bandits. If you are rolling in silver bandits, take some of the clones and put them into the main ones for free CRs and skill lvs. Assuming you don't have better bandits than Eunice and Mortimer the both of them are decent as anti-lich sledgehammers.

Edit: Just make sure to leave like 4 or so bandits as spares for CCs though. You'd be surprised what can need a silver bandit for CC.
No she is not, I just purchased Spica and got her to 50 (need more silver archers for CC). I'm back up to 54 DC, but I was thinking using that for another Spica to increase her skills...

So what Im wondering is when to do it. Should I do it after I CC her?

For bandits I have 2 Mortimer, 2 Eunice, and three gold Conrad.
I don't really use the bandits though, but if I can get use out of them if I put their copies in them for CR or better skills yeah maybe.
Oh. So hmm, I have the 4 silver and three golds. Maybe I should just leave the silvers, and level up the Gold Conrad?

soranokira
01-27-2016, 08:50 PM
No she is not, I just purchased Spica and got her to 50 (need more silver archers for CC). I'm back up to 54 DC, but I was thinking using that for another Spica to increase her skills...

So what Im wondering is when to do it. Should I do it after I CC her?

For bandits I have 2 Mortimer, 2 Eunice, and three gold Conrad.
I don't really use the bandits though, but if I can get use out of them if I put their copies in them for CR or better skills yeah maybe.
Oh. So hmm, I have the 4 silver and three golds. Maybe I should just leave the silvers, and level up the Gold Conrad?

you can do that if you want to. I myself got 2 spica and fodder'd 1 to spica prime for that 100% CR/SU after CC (since I had the laurens and by the time I got enough for 2nd spica my spica prime was already 50CC40+)
just remember to use 3 plat fairies and level the fodder spica to level 10 before combining, for max exp.

as for using up units and all that, I'd suggest you use SCs on box expansion instead, but if you dont want to or cant afford to, leveling conrad copies to lvl 30 then cc-ing them with the silver bandits, then feeding them to conrad prime (a 50CC40+ conrad) should help you clear some bandits.

namhoang909
01-28-2016, 01:01 AM
how about Monica, she can +2% chance to get DCs does she need to be on the field to make it or just in team?
an gina her skill rush will decrease cool down of every unit on field, right? sr i really don't understand how these skills work

soranokira
01-28-2016, 02:39 AM
how about Monica, she can +2% chance to get DCs does she need to be on the field to make it or just in team?
an gina her skill rush will decrease cool down of every unit on field, right? sr i really don't understand how these skills work

just in team.
Gina with her rush skill only makes her attack faster. it doesnt affect cooldown of skills.

MalusCorvus
01-30-2016, 01:53 AM
Should have asked this sooner, but alas... I have Ayami, and I intend to use her. For combat, of course. :P

But I have three of her, and while the other two would be great for XP and lowering her cost, should I fuse them both at once or individually? Is the cost decrease per unit, or is there a fixed chance per fusion assuming a duplicate is involved?

soranokira
01-30-2016, 03:23 AM
Should have asked this sooner, but alas... I have Ayami, and I intend to use her. For combat, of course. :P

But I have three of her, and while the other two would be great for XP and lowering her cost, should I fuse them both at once or individually? Is the cost decrease per unit, or is there a fixed chance per fusion assuming a duplicate is involved?

fusing them both at once or individually doesnt not change your chances.
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Unit_Combination
scroll down to see % chances for CR and SU

some people keep them around while waiting for fairies to combine (since plat rarity units give good exp), while some dont care and just feed, and some look at the unit's level before feeding (because lvl 40+ consumes a lot of gold otherwise if you don't use high exp combinations to reduce the amt of gold spent)
but in the end, it doesn't matter that much and is largely a personal preference.