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    Quote Originally Posted by noheart09 View Post
    no,to be more honest,this deal is making me think: why do something like this? kk,maybe because of the black friday deal or the xmas rose lovers,but a deal like this is meaningless and i just cant understand it at all.
    oh well if they are happy to lose customers like this.
    pls if anyone understood the secret meaning(apart from just trying to make money out of whales) behind such a deal pls tell me.
    To be completely honest, this feels to me as if Nutaku had schizophrenia. I mean consider this. The sheer difference in the deals they offer. Once in a time they put a really good deal that even non paying (normally) players take, and other times they completely contradict this understanding of the market with nonsensical rubbish like this.
    It doesnt feel consistent enough to be the doings of one person. More like multiple people are trying to pull the ropes at the same time. If we are lucky the more sensible one who understand at least a bit of market logic win the draw and we get a good deal, but most often than not, some "get rich fast - has no idea how it works in actuallity" asshole comes on top.
    Coz I dont believe a single person could be doing this, unless of course they had a split personality dissorder or some other mental demerit of their own. Its just to damn inconsistent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrdin View Post
    To be completely honest, this feels to me as if Nutaku had schizophrenia. I mean consider this. The sheer difference in the deals they offer. Once in a time they put a really good deal that even non paying (normally) players take, and other times they completely contradict this understanding of the market with nonsensical rubbish like this.
    It doesnt feel consistent enough to be the doings of one person. More like multiple people are trying to pull the ropes at the same time. If we are lucky the more sensible one who understand at least a bit of market logic win the draw and we get a good deal, but most often than not, some "get rich fast - has no idea how it works in actuallity" asshole comes on top.
    Coz I dont believe a single person could be doing this, unless of course they had a split personality dissorder or some other mental demerit of their own. Its just to damn inconsistent.
    Think about this logically. Do you really think that $10 for a little piece of digital information is a "good deal"? It isn't even that much of data, and certainly isn't giving you access to more game. I would consider $10 quite an expensive item in ANY game's cash shop.

    Yet by deals like these ones, when a "cheap" one comes up, you guys start snatching them up desperately, because of how "good" the deal is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Think about this logically. Do you really think that $10 for a little piece of digital information is a "good deal"? It isn't even that much of data, and certainly isn't giving you access to more game. I would consider $10 quite an expensive item in ANY game's cash shop.

    Yet by deals like these ones, when a "cheap" one comes up, you guys start snatching them up desperately, because of how "good" the deal is.
    No it's not really a good deal, but when you go clubbing 4 beers will cost you $10 as well, which is still a bad deal but you'll do it anyway. I don't mind small investments in a hobby I enjoy, but I steer clear from outrageous deals like the current one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Think about this logically. Do you really think that $10 for a little piece of digital information is a "good deal"? It isn't even that much of data, and certainly isn't giving you access to more game. I would consider $10 quite an expensive item in ANY game's cash shop.

    Yet by deals like these ones, when a "cheap" one comes up, you guys start snatching them up desperately, because of how "good" the deal is.
    There is truth in what you say. I mean 10 bucks is more then expensive when it comes to a bloody DLC which usually tend to add either multiple hours of gameplay or a lot of new content.
    Here you get a.... single Girl... So yeh, what you say is correct. However compared to the usual insane cost they tend to display its much more agreeable.

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    Right guys, that's what I meant. What I said might've sounded a bit rude, but my point was that if they always had the $10 6*, then you wouldn't think that's cheap anymore. You might even think about passing on some of them. $10 for JUST an ugly christmas rose with no guaranteed 5*? That's robbery! But a $3 6* would sound like a great deal.

    It's all relative. Unless you're a real whale (probably in the tens of millions in networth), you'll be psychologically affected by this. To them, there is 0 marginal cost of giving you a 6*. But they want to make as much profit as possible, so the sacrifice some days to make bank on other days.

    That said, I'm not sure if this was a smart move right before christmas, the time when they'll probably get the most sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Think about this logically. Do you really think that $10 for a little piece of digital information is a "good deal"? It isn't even that much of data, and certainly isn't giving you access to more game. I would consider $10 quite an expensive item in ANY game's cash shop.

    Yet by deals like these ones, when a "cheap" one comes up, you guys start snatching them up desperately, because of how "good" the deal is.
    Again, these kinds of transactions have been the norm for a while now, no matter where you look. It's been in MMOs for ages, it's creeping into mainstream games like COD and Overwatch, and it's what keeps mobage afloat. Some people value virtual waifus that come with cute attack animations with HCGs, some would prefer to marry their shipgirls, some want the hottest/most broken unit in the game, etc. Extend that to people who buy figures, dakis, and whatever else on your shelf and in your room that looks pretty but doesn't actually do anything, and it's not hard to see a connection.

    Or like Rupturez says, take-out and beers only provide a few hours of satisfaction at best, but people do it all the time anyway.

    And this is going to very quickly approach the slippery slope of "how is any hobby *worth* anything", so we'll leave it at that and go back to how bad of a deal this is, even if you like some good-old Wazakita art.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Right guys, that's what I meant. What I said might've sounded a bit rude, but my point was that if they always had the $10 6*, then you wouldn't think that's cheap anymore. You might even think about passing on some of them. $10 for JUST an ugly christmas rose with no guaranteed 5*? That's robbery! But a $3 6* would sound like a great deal.


    It's all relative. Unless you're a real whale (probably in the tens of millions in networth), you'll be psychologically affected by this. To them, there is 0 marginal cost of giving you a 6*. But they want to make as much profit as possible, so the sacrifice some days to make bank on other days.


    That said, I'm not sure if this was a smart move right before christmas, the time when they'll probably get the most sales
    That makes more sense. I mentioned before how a few people were complaining about the $15/$30 skill/dressblooms in the shop being too expensive, and considering that golds were recently priced at $30 in a step-up, and rainbows are typically $50/$60, paying half that or a little over half that for essentially half a dupe isn't a bad deal at all.

    But some people got used to the Black Friday sales and were somehow hoping for $5/$10 blooms instead, which if that happened would just fuck with our perception of a gold/rainbow's given value and hurt sales in the long run.
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    I'm not judging. When I make my millions, I'm gonna spend thousands on virtual games like these too once in a while just for the giggles. Why not?

    I was coming from the perspective of economics and psychology. If you don't have a "bad deal" to compare with, you won't know what is a "good deal". All these companies care about is ARPU and they'll try everything they can to maximize that value.

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    While true, I'd hope that this far down the line, we'd already have a perception of what is a bad deal.

    Nobody asked for them to one-up the terrible "deal" that was the bridal Cactus gacha, and we certainly didn't need it after several good Black Friday sales either.

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    This is not even worth the money, the girl is butt ugly. Just observe fkg's discord, you will know that quite a few people buy Lycoris on last gacha, something that a few people will get no matter what price it is as long as they have enough money (got to get that waifu), maybe this justify that they will likely keep this price tag on longterm. Other thing is they wont change their price if they are not short on cash. Sengoku providence comes right after black friday, coincidence?.
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