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    Removed Facebook Posts

    I'm posting a short description on several forums regarding an issue that has affected some of you when interacting with our social media pages.

    Firstly, our social media admins don't like removing posts. That said:

    1. Nutaku does not have any loli characters in our games.

    2. Please don't request loli characters. You may request any specific character you would like, just not "more loli characters".

    Some of you may have noticed that our games are containing a much wider variety of characters than they previously did. We're very happy about this and it took a lot of hard work to get to this point. While we appreciate it when people post messages regarding our wider range of content, asking for loli or implying we have loli in our games jeopardizes our ability to bring new characters and invites a crackdown on the content we already have.

    It's not an exaggeration to say that places like Facebook and Twitter are being monitored by our payment processors. Posts about this subject on our official pages gives them ammunition to censor us. We know this because it's happened already.

    So for the sake of the content we have and the games we hope to acquire, any post implying that Nutaku has underage characters will be removed. The irony of having to censor some comments to get more uncensored content isn't lost on us, but that's a price we're willing to pay for more characters, H-scenes, and games.


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    As a customer who has paid hard earned money just for the possibility to unlock pieces of digital code (and sometimes not getting anything since that's the way gatcha works), might I suggest you work to find more accommodating payment processors?

    For some of us, while we are not interested in underaged characters, simply don't like altered products and want a product without missing content.

    Quite frankly, we pay you and you pay your payment processors. You should worried about what we want and your payment processors should be worried about what you want, not the other way around. If your payment processor has the manpower to be monitoring your facebook page, then they are wasting human resources and not doing an effective job. All they are being paid to do is just process the payments. I would argue that that's an even greater indication that they should be ditched for another payment processor.

    So the only question I'm actually interested in is this : Are you working to find another payment processor or not? Why not? How long would it take?

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    Some of the stuff has to do with laws. Images, movies and such with uncensored nude or almost nude underaged characters is illegal in alot of countries. Or something like that, like child pornography?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyehmm View Post
    Some of the stuff has to do with laws. Images, movies and such with uncensored nude or almost nude underaged characters is illegal in alot of countries. Or something like that, like child pornography?
    Lolis are not always underaged, in most cases just women with a small cup size and/or small body size. And it's not a law issue, it's an issue with the processor who doesn't like lolis because they fear to lose reputation with content like that.

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    1) Nutaku has never said that they were being restricted by such laws.
    They said they were restricted by the payment processors.

    Therefore change the payment processors and the problem should be solved.

    Please don't make up reasons that Nutaku never even mentioned.
    If this is the case, then Nutaku needs to clearly say this instead of blaming the payment processors.
    Say "We are based in Country X and will never ever have these characters because these are the laws of our country"

    2) It has been mentioned time and again that Aigis has all-ages scenes that replace the h scenes for the underaged characters and that could be used without breaking any laws.
    Not everyone is interested in the h scenes. Once again, these are solutions that have been proposed months ago. People expect answers, not just sit around and play dumb.

    3)Some of these were reasonable excuses 9 months ago when nutaku was a small site with 2 or 3 games. They never came out to say : We are never going to work on art issues ever. The issue was left hanging and some people expected changes to eventually happen. Now they have 13 games on nutaku.net and 3 games on nutaku.com. I have witnessed whales spending hundreds or thousands on their accounts. In games like Pero, there were cards that could only be acquired if you spent hundreds within a month. (medal system where you literally traded spent money for cards) With profit like that, I would argue that they could choose from any "payment processor" they like. If this issue is going to remain static, they also need to tell their audience that it will never change.

    Many people out there are making decisions without having good information on the direction that this is going to go in the future. Some people play exclusively on dmm because they expect the issue to never be resolved. Some people play on both nutaku and dmm. Its actually way easier to keep quiet and just give up just like I stopped playing pero without saying anything weeks ago. By voicing out, I'm giving Nutaku a chance to improve the game in a way that might retain my interest even though it puts me in the unpleasant spotlight. More importantly point number 2. Stop telling me about child porn laws when one of the best solutions suggested months ago was to implement all age scenes for the young characters.
    Last edited by Slurpee; 12-30-2015 at 07:05 PM.

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    Their FB name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin668 View Post
    Their FB name?
    you do realize you dont need to sign in to read facebook posts right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
    you do realize you dont need to sign in to read facebook posts right?
    Cuz i'm alwyas use direct link to play, at that page dont have their fb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin668 View Post
    Cuz i'm alwyas use direct link to play, at that page dont have their fb
    I'm trying to say that those payment processors don't need to sign in to read nutaku's FB and twitter posts. so asking for their FB name doesn't help you any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slurpee View Post
    As a customer who has paid hard earned money just for the possibility to unlock pieces of digital code (and sometimes not getting anything since that's the way gatcha works), might I suggest you work to find more accommodating payment processors?

    For some of us, while we are not interested in underaged characters, simply don't like altered products and want a product without missing content.

    Quite frankly, we pay you and you pay your payment processors. You should worried about what we want and your payment processors should be worried about what you want, not the other way around. If your payment processor has the manpower to be monitoring your facebook page, then they are wasting human resources and not doing an effective job. All they are being paid to do is just process the payments. I would argue that that's an even greater indication that they should be ditched for another payment processor.

    So the only question I'm actually interested in is this : Are you working to find another payment processor or not? Why not? How long would it take?
    From what I've seen on the other forums, it seems that the payment processors have already agreed to almost all of the things people have been clamoring for (Nutaku was apparently successful using the "1000 year old dragon" defense or whatever).

    *However*, there is a possibility that they might have second thoughts about agreeing to it if they see messages about "lolis" plastered all over the Facebook and Twitter pages, which are significantly more public than these forums are. Stop using that trigger word where the processors are watching, and Nutaku will be able to make the changes you (and I, and pretty much everyone else) want, individual game devs notwithstanding.

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