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    How do you intend to deal with Vritra? [Upcoming Ragna Advent]



    According to wiki
    Normal burst = AoE damage (~4000 damage). Applies a 3 turn debuff that freezes cooldown of all abilities. (Eg: If your ability have 3 turns left before it comes off cooldown, it will be stuck there frozen until the debuff wears off.)

    Additional Note:

    When the boss hits you with this, the debuff applies first before the turn is considered to have ended and your abilities come off of cooldown. Meaning if an ability you want to use only have 1 turn left and you get hit by it, you will still sit there with 1 turn.



    Rage burst = 3 hits, random (~6000 damage per hit)

    If you have elemental advantage and around two stacks of ATK down debuffs, you can cut all of this damage to around 2000 for normal burst and 3000 per hit for rage.

    How do you intend to deal with this?
    She doesn't seem to be harder than Ragxion in my opinion.
    My only problem with this is that unless you have SSR Thunder to outdamage it and kill it before it kills you, you will be stuck with a healer-less Thunder team unless you supplement with Andro or Joan. Discuss.

    Regardless, I intend to use all black grimoires that I have this Advent and the next to MLB the SR Thunder Kamis.
    This is the team I intend to use.
    How do you intend to deal with Vuritra? [Upcoming Ragna Advent]-capture.jpg
    Last edited by Inb4whales; 07-28-2017 at 12:37 AM. Reason: Vuritra changed to Vritra for correctness.


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    You basically need two sources of debuff removal (or debuff prevention) to handle this debuff effectively + Black Propaganda. One of those can be Behemoth, since you won't see more than two Normal Overdrives in a given cycle. A second option is Mordred with Maiden's Prayer equipped. A third option is Thunder's R "healer", which I assume many people will be using, or any other kamihime that can prevent or remove debuffs. For those not using Mordred, equipping Black Propaganda will likely be necessary.
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    Can we at least have some courtesy for Dullahan Raid please xD? Vuritra is weeks later. We are not even half way through, time-wise, for Yatagarasu yet.
    Last edited by noxybell; 07-27-2017 at 08:45 AM.

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    Thinking ahead is smart to plan out your soul point usage (for those who haven't maxed every soul already). By the time the event is upon us, it'll be too late.
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    hmm...i have 2 problems with my thunder team
    1) lack of debuff 2) lack of healer
    so i've thought to use mordred to cover for the debuff part and maybe give her extra skill that will regenerate a little HP+yggsrdrasil i may be able to have regeneration during the whole battle, though it'll give just a small amount of HP.
    and trying to get her stunned so tyr can finish her off, hopefully i can beat her before she crush me :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    Thinking ahead is smart to plan out your soul point usage.
    Fair point, I myself have some Legendaries that needs leveling too.

    Anyway back to topic: my planned line up:

    Mordred (ex Maiden's Prayers), Raiko, Thor, Tyr, Sol, and definitely bringing Behemoth along. I think I'm going to avoid the Raging Burst entirely. With the nukes of Thor that should be do-able.

    OR

    Joan (ex Sniper Shot if my D'art can level up in time), Raiko, Thor, Tyr, Aphrodite. I feel like Aphrodite's Wash Detox has good enough of a short cool down and applies a debuff block to self. I came up this just because I'm biased against plan 1 with an Ex ability from a Standard soul. Also, I may bring in a Friend's Behemoth just in case. Since Vuritra doesn't have any def up I feel my himes can power through it.

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    That player in the video seems to be using quite a few defender weapons. His eidolon is Yggdrasil and his friend support is a 2/4 Thunderbird (had 50% element boost), which in no way would bump his team's HP that high (in case you didn't know, you still get HP/ATK from your friend eidolon's stats too). Though we have gotten 3 damm SSR defender weapons from events so far, looks like he might be using all 3 or 2 with skill level really high. 1 weapon alone wouldn't be enough to hit 9k HP with only 1 HP main/friend eidolon.

    What does this mean? It means if you've been playing for a while, you can hit 10k+ HP during this event by using 2 20% HP main/friend eidolons and skill leveling the SSR defender weapons you got from past event. People will most likely be using Sandalphon or Yggdrasil as their main who both have 40%thunder/20% hp.

    Thankfully next raid event is a dark event and my light team is more or less capped out in terms of needing XP for anything (though some stuff could be replaced) so I can level up my thunder weapons, which are in the current worst status of all my teams.

    Not for certain but for my first attempt, think I will go

    Mordred (Black Propaganda and Maidens for ex skill to be safe)
    Raiko (Damage reduction buff / Def debuff and buff)
    Nemesis (Attacker and better management of rage phase)
    Amaterasu (20% atk/def down / Deb buff with regen)
    Ramiel (Dizzy+Mordred, atk debuff and multiple buff)
    Perun and Hermod in sub. (Perun for damage reduction in case and no real reason for Hermod)

    Will most likely save my party burst on regular phase if needed to push into raging for overdrive. Not sure how long stun phase lasts since the video uses burst on it. Hopefully enough to eat 2 or 3 turns of regular attacks to refresh skills.

    If it doesn't work well, then back to my light team.
    Last edited by Aidoru; 07-27-2017 at 09:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxybell View Post
    Can we at least have some courtesy for Dullahan Raid please xD? Vuritra is weeks later. We are not even half way through, time-wise, for Yatagarasu yet.
    The reason I brought it up this early because the boss is no pushover like Yata.
    And Raid events never really scare me because even if you fail, you can always obtain help. Even easier if you're in a Union.

    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    A third option is Thunder's R "healer", which I assume many people will be using, or any other kamihime that can prevent or remove debuffs. For those not using Mordred, equipping Black Propaganda will likely be necessary.
    By "healer" you mean the self-healing Indra? She does have a cleanse yes.
    I also saw a player who used Tyr and Gaia there and pretty much used her as a one time meat shield to ensure that no one else dies on the first burst before taking it down with Sieg and Tyr. But the problem is not everyone has Tyr or Gaia so....

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    Mordred (Black Propaganda and Maidens for ex skill to be safe)
    Raiko (Damage reduction buff / Def debuff and buff)
    Nemesis (Attacker and better management of rage phase)
    Amaterasu (20% atk/def down / Deb buff with regen)
    Ramiel (Dizzy+Mordred, atk debuff and multiple buff)
    Perun and Hermod in sub. (Perun for damage reduction in case and no real reason for Hermod)
    Not sure if you forgot or just having Ama there for the one time sniper debuff. But she is going to be obliterated even if one tick of the rage burst hits her.

    But don't worry, I had the exact same idea as you as well until I realised "Shet, I'm a fire main and the event is friggin water..."
    Last edited by Inb4whales; 07-27-2017 at 09:56 AM.

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    I have Amaterasu in all my parties. So she's just there because she's there. She'll most likely die if she gets double hit by the raging overdrive and no HP buff from the set up.

    But as I said, it was just gonna be for my first attempt. If anything, it's just to see if I can handle keeping her out of using regular overdrive, which if I can, I will remove Maiden as a ex skill to use Sniper and swap Amaterasu to another attacker, probably Hermod or Baal.

    I haven't really used my thunder team, rather not a big fan of how Hermod and Thor inflict damage on themselves and the team.

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    Remember that Maiden's Prayer alone may not be enough. That has a 4 turn CD, but you won't be able to use it twice in a row because she'll seal your CD the round before the skill is ready again (that's with with Black Propaganda active). You'll be fine if you only eat 1 overdrive, but you could end up eating two, especially after the first Rage cycle.
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