Thread: party advice request - good water comp bad weapons or decent fire comp good weapons?

I currently have two decent elemental setup due to the past 2 events - fire and water. My water comp is fairly strong, but I have almost no water weapons to work off of (mostly +hp at that), while my fire comp isn't great but I have some really strong weapons now. Which should I be focusing on leveling skills for/levels at this point? Detailed comp below

Water:
Andromeda with SSR water staff
Belphegor
Aphrodite
Nike
Ryu-oh
Weapons are 3 SSR weapons (2 +hp 1 damage) and a weak SR +atk weapon (+80hp +939 atk): Max hp++ x2, Max atk up++, Max atk up

Fire:
Andromeda with fire SSR staff (from typhon)
Motu
Brynhilde
Amon

I have 2 decently leveled fire rares (Nergal and Ignis) as well as Gaia as another random SSR that I could fill in.

Once I level all the new equipment I got, I'll have Fire atk up++ x2, fire atk up+ x6, fire hp up+ x1 (still debating buying 2 of the +hp weapon from typhon vs max break limit one of the other SR weapons)

Just kind of unsure as to where I should be investing rares for leveling skills atm - fire or water weapons. Any comments/advice appreciated or what I should be aiming for next. Thanks all!

Your water team is by far better and should be prioritized. You don't decide on your team by what weapons you have, you decide by what himes you have. Even if you don't have any SSR weapons at the moment, you can get SR weapons by farming disasters raids of the element you want, which you should prioritize (next to break limiting your himes) in-between events or during events after you got the main rewards. Make an alt account if needed to spawn more and friend that alt account to have them send help request to your main.

Your fire team is extremely lacking in debuffs. You literally don't have a single one with that set up unless you use a ex skill on Andromeda. Since you say you have Gaia, even a wind team would be better with Cybele (story) and Zephyrus (from gem gacha).

I hope you have some other souls unlocked too since Andromeda is unnecessary in your water team, with Aphrodite and Nike more than enough to handle the heals, you could have gone for someone else.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Your water team is by far better and should be prioritized. You don't decide on your team by what weapons you have, you decide by what himes you have. Even if you don't have any SSR weapons at the moment, you can get SR weapons by farming disasters raids of the element you want, which you should prioritize (next to break limiting your himes) in-between events or during events after you got the main rewards. Make an alt account if needed to spawn more and friend that alt account to have them send help request to your main.

Your fire team is extremely lacking in debuffs. You literally don't have a single one with that set up unless you use a ex skill on Andromeda. Since you say you have Gaia, even a wind team would be better with Cybele (story) and Zephyrus (from gem gacha).

I hope you have some other souls unlocked too since Andromeda is unnecessary in your water team, with Aphrodite and Nike more than enough to handle the heals, you could have gone for someone else.

I have joan of arc which is kinda why I went for andromeda second (was partway to unlocking her). I was initially looking at mordred next, but not that I have Ryu-Oh who can do the same as black propaganda not sure who to work towards next. Also yea I realized too late that I kinda took a bad route but oh well I'll get more eventually. Besides Nike's heal is kinda weak honestly and the extra heal with the lack of damage from weapons has been more than helpful/necessary for ultimate typhon.

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

not sure who to work towards next.

D'art, then Arthur or Siegfried.

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

I have joan of arc which is kinda why I went for andromeda second (was partway to unlocking her). I was initially looking at mordred next, but not that I have Ryu-Oh who can do the same as black propaganda not sure who to work towards next. Also yea I realized too late that I kinda took a bad route but oh well I'll get more eventually. Besides Nike's heal is kinda weak honestly and the extra heal with the lack of damage from weapons has been more than helpful/necessary for ultimate typhon.

As for the alt - yea already did that long time ago and made her soul the gunner for the snatch assist.

Joan would have probably been better for handling Typhon, though with the lack of weapons, that would be a problem regardless.

Ryu-Oh and Belphagor pretty much handle your frame A and frame B debuffs. Ryu-Oh basically defeats the reason of using Mordred for Black Propaganda. You already have all necessary recovery/affliction recovery/enemy dispel from Aphrodite and Vivian/Cass ex skill. So with this, you could focus your soul on offense, with Arthur being the best option in my opinion. You can probably go Siegfried if you wanted instead too, feel like Arthur would provide more use though.

You could go D'art for Sniper Shot but considering your weapon grid, I doubt Belphagor's -12% to Sniper Shot -20% is going to be the difference between clearing or failing a Advent Ragnarok for you at this time. Though if you draw another SR or higher water hime, grabbing it should be a priority and gives you the option to replace Belphagor. There are no water himes with a debuff as strong as Sniper Shot. Snow Rapheal having the highest current of water himes, being a 15% one, only as strong as Sneak Attack from Granuaile.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

-- Make an alt account if needed to spawn more and friend that alt account to have them send help request to your main.--

From Nutaku's terms of service:

3. USER CONDUCT
3.1 You acknowledge and agree that you shall not:
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- create more than one account per platform to access our Website;

I doubt anyone has ever been banned for this, and hell, they reserve the right to ban anyone for any reason even without breaking any rules, but I'm still not sure I'd advice people to make alt accounts.

does Win OS operated PC and Android OS Smart considered diff platforms?

Originally Posted by Slashley

From Nutaku's terms of service:I doubt anyone has ever been banned for this, and hell, they reserve the right to ban anyone for any reason even without breaking any rules, but I'm still not sure I'd advice people to make alt accounts.

Nutaku doesn't care and would only ever do so if someone wanted to be dick and report every single user who mentioned they have.

You may as well tell players who spend all their time rerolling to stop as well, since easily more than half of the players we have for kamihime for reaching player milestone for jewel log in bonuses are people rerolling several times, maybe even hundreds of times.

Originally Posted by Slashley

From Nutaku's terms of service:I doubt anyone has ever been banned for this, and hell, they reserve the right to ban anyone for any reason even without breaking any rules, but I'm still not sure I'd advice people to make alt accounts.

Advising people to reroll is a bit borderline, as it's a genuine exploit, but alt accounts are pretty standard in online games. Nutaku includes this message in their terms of service so they can registration-lock IPs that are detected creating many accounts. This practice jams up their login servers and siphons money away from their cash shops, as users end up paying account farmers for accounts with premium items rather than Nutaku.

So I know my fire comp is bad and I shouldn't worry too much about that, however for the rewards should I grab 100 soul points or get 2 fire SR weapons to 3* (both are 2* atm, still level 1)? I'm leaning towards the soul points, however I only have 1 SR weapon at 3* break limit and no SSR weapons (4 SR at 2*, 3SSR at 1*).

Also for garuda rewards, assuming I can get enough mats for them, would 3* break limit garuda (+5% wind) or more soul points be better?

Or should I screw all that completely and go for a grimoire? Have 8 evolved 6 of apotheosis.

I know a lot of questions sorry just not really sure how to figure out min/maxing for this game yet.