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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Nothing is ever certain, but for Belial, if you whop in 10k and the bonus modifier is 2.5 like JP wiki says for Eidolons, then you're 99.39% chance likely to get one. And you're expected to find 5.097 copies. With no rate bonus, it's 89% and 2.2 copies expected.
    According to reports, the +100% eidolons have a lower draw rate than other SSR eidolons. Since my Gatcha calculator assumes that the draw rate of each SSR eidolon is the same, it won't correctly predict your odds of drawing a +100% eidolon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    According to reports, the +100% eidolons have a lower draw rate than other SSR eidolons.--
    That'd be quite expected since they're whale-traps. Odd how they haven't mentioned that in the JP wiki. Or maybe I didn't know where to look.

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    I got my info from a DMM player. I'm not sure if it's been documented, at least in the JP wiki. Assuming they can be obtained from Jewel Gatcha, we should find out the draw rate from rerollers soon enough. I suspect we'll have two options to get one: spend thousands of dollars on Gatcha, or reroll. The draw rate should be too low for players to get them through normal play, or even by paying a reasonable "subscription" of $30/month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Nothing is ever certain, but for Belial, if you whop in 10k and the bonus modifier is 2.5 like JP wiki says for Eidolons, then you're 99.39% chance likely to get one. And you're expected to find 5.097 copies. With no rate bonus, it's 89% and 2.2 copies expected.
    Im not sure about that. what I knew is that, many heavy whales (according to my definition) had quit the game (dmm version), because they got pissed off by the droprate.

    If anyone is willing to do a little test spending 10k real money, I would appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    That'd be quite expected since they're whale-traps. Odd how they haven't mentioned that in the JP wiki. Or maybe I didn't know where to look.
    there is also a rumor, that high rank accs with high power have even lower chance. and newbie accs or accs being inactive for long time pulling ssr much easier.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    According to reports, the +100% eidolons have a lower draw rate than other SSR eidolons. Since my Gatcha calculator assumes that the draw rate of each SSR eidolon is the same, it won't correctly predict your odds of drawing a +100% eidolon.
    Do you know if this also holds true for the SSR Eidolon tickets? If that is not the case i'd imagine you would eventually get your choice. If all are equal the odds of landing any single one would be 1/27... when all 100% eidolons are released. Assuming price remains 3,000 gold a ticket it's not incredibly terrible, but still spendy, that said, probably still better than when they are featured because you still would need to roll an SSR, then have it be an eidolon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberborn View Post
    Do you know if this also holds true for the SSR Eidolon tickets? If that is not the case i'd imagine you would eventually get your choice. If all are equal the odds of landing any single one would be 1/27... when all 100% eidolons are released. Assuming price remains 3,000 gold a ticket it's not incredibly terrible, but still spendy, that said, probably still better than when they are featured because you still would need to roll an SSR, then have it be an eidolon.
    No, because I have no data on this. I would surmise that, in the interest of keeping the +100% eidolons rare, that the odds of drawing one with an SSR Eidolon ticket are especially low.
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