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    NEW! Advice wanted, Questions within, help with plan, ect. :D

    Questions/Advice wanted

    1. SC plan? I'm not spending any money on this game. I read multiple guides on this and I'm still confused. (Expansion > Events > Dailies > Summons (yeah right "F" RNG)) Not sure when to first start spending on expansions, don't know what events are/why they're important, when do I start dailies (how much to spend on then?), and well like I said I hate RNG so I won't do summons unless I pretty much have to.

    2. Benchmarks? (For example at level 5?, CU lvl 1, and RS lvl 1 you should do the tutorial missions...lol)

    Prince level = ??
    Core Units levels = ??-??
    Remaining Starters = ??-??
    Then you should be up to ??, farming ??, and your next goal should be ?? ... ect.

    3. What level do I stop using irons as fodder? Is it ok to push that further? What are the draw backs?

    4. When do I start using fairies to speed up leveling?

    5. How important is it to match classes when combining units?

    6. Is leveling your fodder a bit ever worth it? (I.E. Bronze fodder should you level it to let's say 10ish if you're gonna use fairies plus the unit on core units?)

    7. How much gold do I need in reserve? (Are 2k gold roles worth it?)

    8. Is there a gold dump? (What I mean is you can dump your Charisma into missions, you can dump your Stamina into challenge quest, where do you dump gold?)

    9. Bonding Advice? (Who, When, How much?)

    10. Links to non-Harem-Battle club content I may want/need?

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    Below is a layout/guide for my current plan based off what little I know from 3-4 days of playing. (I plan to reset and run more then 1 account)

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    Leveling: Charisma Dump

    Remnant Vanquish 1 > Pastoral Gate
    Bandit Hideout > Wolves' Den
    The Royal Road
    Return to Ruins
    After that when you 3 start something it is better then what you were doing...no?

    Affection Farming: Stamina Dump

    Silver: Low Cost Battle
    Gold: A Gigantic Enemy
    Platinum: Phalax 2
    Black: Low Cost Battle 3

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    Starter Army: Post tutorial (Strategy Lessons and Urgent Mission Drill), and let's say level 10+.

    Soldiers: 2 (Katie - Phyllis)
    Healers: 2-3 (Iris - Allisa - Dora)
    Archers: 2-3 (Bashira - Soma - Daniela)
    Tanks: 2 (Leeanne - Iron Heavy Infantry)
    Mages: 2 (Valerie x2)
    Witches: 2 (Cloris - Calliope)
    Duelist: 2 (Elaine - Eunice)
    Assist: 0
    Anti-Zerg: 0
    Anti-Rush: 1 (Cecily)
    Anti-Swarm: 0
    Support: 0

    Leveling Army: Getting units to 20-30, advancing through story missions, and preparing for dallies and fairy farming.

    Soldiers: 2 (Katie - Phyllis)
    Healers: 2-3 (Iris - Allisa - Dora)
    Archers: 2-3 (Bashira - Soma - Daniela)
    Tanks: 2-3 (Leeanne x2 - Russell)
    Mages: 2-3 (Valerie x2 - Roy)
    Witches: 2 (Cloris - Calliope)
    Duelist: 2-3 (Elaine - Eunice - Mortimer)
    Assist: 1 (Hayate)(If possible)
    Anti-Zerg: 2 (Leo x2)
    Anti-Rush: 1-2 (Cypria - Cecily)
    Anti-Swarm: 0
    Support: 0

    Mid-Game Army: Ready for some events, continuing story missions, ect.

    Soldiers: 2 (Katie - Phyllis)
    Healers: 2-3 (Iris - Allisa - Dora)
    Archers: 3-5 (Bashira - Soma - Daniela - Spica - Wilfred (CRed))
    Tanks: 2-3 (Leeanne x2 - Russell(CRed))
    Mages: 2-3 (Valerie x2 - Roy(CRed))
    Witches: 2-3 (Cloris - Calliope x2)
    Duelist: 2-3 (Elaine - Eunice - Bergan(CRed) - Mortimer)
    Assist: 1 (Hayate)(If possible)
    Anti-Zerg: 2-4 (Leo x2(CRed) - More Leo's ??)
    Anti-Rush: 1-2 (Cypria - Cecily)
    Anti-Swarm: 0
    Support: 0

    Goal Army: Advice welcome!

    Problem for the future. :P

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    Unit Leveling: Fodder Dump

    1st tier Gold+ Units: Katie - Bashira - Iris - Cloris
    2nd tier Gold+ Units: Cypria

    1st tier Silver Units: Soma/Daniela - Alissa - Leeanne/Bernard - Valerie/Pallis
    2nd tier Silver Units: Elaine - Calliope - Eunice - Phyllis
    3rd tier Silver Units: Crave - Cecily - Mortimer - Dorca

    1st tier Bronze Units: Hayate (Ninja) - Leo (Soldier)
    2nd tier Bronze Units: Wilfred (Archer) - Russell (Tank) - Bergan (Bandit) - Roy (Mage)
    3rd tier Bronze Units: Ars (Archer) - Hector (Soldier)

    Fairy (Spirits) Priority:

    Bronze: Hayate > Leo > Russell - Wilfred > Roy > Bergan
    Silver: Leeanne - Soma/Daniela - Alissa - Valerie > Calliope - Elaine >
    2nd Leeanne - 2nd Valerie > Eunice - Phyllis >
    Gold: Katie - Cloris - Iris >
    Platinum: Bashira > Cypria >
    Black:

    CCing Priority:

    Silver: Leeanne - Soma/Daniela - Alissa - Valerie >
    Gold: Katie - Cloris - Iris >
    Platinum: Bashira > Spica > Cypria >

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    Honestly any additional advice is welcome...I'm here to learn.
    And Thanks in advance to anyone who replies!
    Last edited by King Dong; 04-08-2016 at 04:32 PM.


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    1. I'd recommend saving 10-20SC for events so that you always have enough of them in case you want the event units. As for what events are useful, Lafate always puts up a guide and comments on it. Aside from that you can also ask in said thread when it pops up for further suggestions.

    2. As for benchmarks, i'd say you should focus on getting some units to 30ish first and then go on to 50 and CC them. The units you mentioned in your priority are nice but i'd suggest first CCing Katie and/or Bashira. Bashira is something you level if you have a decent amount of silver archers since she needs a whole 3 of them. Otherwise it might be a better idea to go for Soma/Daniela. Iris is after that and if you want to aim for early phalanx 2 challenge missions you will need Cloris CC'd. Leanne is not that important to CC first but she becomes more important later on.

    3. Typically at 40+ you will want to use only bronze units and then stop at 50+ for CC'd gold/plat units until you can get your hands on platinum armours and more fairies. Do note that early iron/bronze units from maps might as well just be sold until you reach better ones.

    4. If you want to do this, you better do it at 40+, but usually you might want to save those fairies for other things.

    5. Decently important. Many units do not even have iron/bronze fodders of their class. It does give more exp to match classes but it is not a death threatening situation to not do so as long as the fodder is high level.

    6. Only worth it if you are going to fodder gold+ units to CR/SU (and even then it's only to level 10ish) but you won't want to do that for a long time. Leveling iron/bronze fodders is pointless.

    7. When starting out you want to save all gold possible. The higher level you get the more it costs to combine. A safe buffer later on would be 500k, but it never hurts to have more.

    8. Combining and 2k gold summons. Once you reach awakening stages (much later do not even worry about it for now) you will need tons of gold though.

    9. Katie, Bashira and Iris are good contenders for your first affection items. In that order too as Katie's defense is really darn useful a lot of the time.

    10. I'll leave this to others. If it exists, it's in the stickies :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenhou View Post
    1. I'd recommend saving 10-20SC for events so that you always have enough of them in case you want the event units. As for what events are useful, Lafate always puts up a guide and comments on it. Aside from that you can also ask in said thread when it pops up for further suggestions.

    2. As for benchmarks, i'd say you should focus on getting some units to 30ish first and then go on to 50 and CC them. The units you mentioned in your priority are nice but i'd suggest first CCing Katie and/or Bashira. Bashira is something you level if you have a decent amount of silver archers since she needs a whole 3 of them. Otherwise it might be a better idea to go for Soma/Daniela. Iris is after that and if you want to aim for early phalanx 2 challenge missions you will need Cloris CC'd. Leanne is not that important to CC first but she becomes more important later on.

    3. Typically at 40+ you will want to use only bronze units and then stop at 50+ for CC'd gold/plat units until you can get your hands on platinum armours and more fairies. Do note that early iron/bronze units from maps might as well just be sold until you reach better ones.

    4. If you want to do this, you better do it at 40+, but usually you might want to save those fairies for other things.

    5. Decently important. Many units do not even have iron/bronze fodders of their class. It does give more exp to match classes but it is not a death threatening situation to not do so as long as the fodder is high level.

    6. Only worth it if you are going to fodder gold+ units to CR/SU (and even then it's only to level 10ish) but you won't want to do that for a long time. Leveling iron/bronze fodders is pointless.

    7. When starting out you want to save all gold possible. The higher level you get the more it costs to combine. A safe buffer later on would be 500k, but it never hurts to have more.

    8. Combining and 2k gold summons. Once you reach awakening stages (much later do not even worry about it for now) you will need tons of gold though.

    9. Katie, Bashira and Iris are good contenders for your first affection items. In that order too as Katie's defense is really darn useful a lot of the time.

    10. I'll leave this to others. If it exists, it's in the stickies :P
    First off, Thank you!

    Now if you have time I have a few follow up replies/questions?

    In response to your reply to number three...REALLY!!! I read that I should stop using Iron at level 10...getting enough bronzes to level my units to 20-30 was taking forever. Being able to use all the irons I've been selling to level units for four times as long will be nice.

    In response to your reply to number two...Like I said above I was under the impression I was to stop using iron at level 10. So, with that information I was planing on using fairies to level from 20 up and well getting to farm gold and plat fairies that early seemed impossible. That is why it seemed to me that my silvers where gonna be the easiest to get to 50 so I could even CC them. Now I just have to get to gold fairies by the time Katie > Iris > Cloris hit 50, and as soon as I can get to Phalax 2 I can CC Bashira. Does that sound about right?

    Ok, it seems to me like the stamina milestones for a new account seem to be...

    Unlock full starting army (with your starting stam going into the 7 tactic missions and 4 drill missions)
    Getting through "Low Cost Battle" (for silver fairies)(with your next chunk of stam)
    Getting through 15 Challenge quest for the increase in unit capacity
    Getting through "A Gigantic Enemy" (for gold fairies)
    Then when possible rush to "Phalax 2" (for plat faires)

    where in there would I likely be starting dailies? Or would it be after?

    As for the Charisma milestones it is basically just progressing from good farm level to the next good farm level as your army permits right?

    Something like

    Remnant Vanquish 1 > Pastoral Gate
    Bandit Hideout > Wolves' Den
    The Royal Road
    Return to Ruins
    ect.

    Again Thank you for your time!

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    u start doing gold dailies as soon as they are avaible. There are plenty of guides for newbies or aigis videos on youtube with low level units (i think i even saw the easy and normal maps done with under lvl 20 units). Aff and spirits dailies are not that important (unless u want the free sc for 3staring it) since u will get most of your aff/spirits from challanges. DCs should be done as soon as posible as well , and for that , u should get 2 cc-ed archers asap and 2 cc-ed healers as well. Farming the hard map is generally better

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    u start doing gold dailies as soon as they are avaible. There are plenty of guides for newbies or aigis videos on youtube with low level units (i think i even saw the easy and normal maps done with under lvl 20 units). Aff and spirits dailies are not that important (unless u want the free sc for 3staring it) since u will get most of your aff/spirits from challanges. DCs should be done as soon as posible as well , and for that , u should get 2 cc-ed archers asap and 2 cc-ed healers as well. Farming the hard map is generally better
    Ok, start Monday dailies ASAP!

    Not sure what "DCs" are...maybe Daily Missions?

    As for getting the 2 archers and 2 healers CCed quickly...what's your take on "3. What level do I stop using irons as fodder? Is it ok to push that further? What are the draw backs?" Is Tenhou's suggestion of level 40 accurate?

    Thank you for your time!

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    DC's are short for demon crystals. It's the thursday daily and you need two CC'd archers for it.
    The monday gold daily much like phalanx 2 makes Cloris ideal to level at some point since she is used in the H difficulty one.

    And in all honesty, aim for the Desert Oasis mission it is the best. Many guides are outdated since they added the desert missions.

    Well, the currently final desert mission at 40 cost is the best overall, but at lower levels it will be difficult so the 30 cost one (oasis) will be your best bet for fodders.

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    depends. If u have gold and u can afford it , u can sometimes use irons (lvl 20 irons tho from imortal beast/base scramble2) to level units to 50 or 60 , but that is usually not that effiecient. generally 40-50 is okaish , then start using plat armors + 3 fairies of the same rarity as your unit for a whooping 8k xp per plat armor

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    my sig has a link to a beginner guide I made which may help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
    my sig has a link to a beginner guide I made which may help you.
    I read it. That is where a lot of my plan came from. But I still had questions so I posted them here.

    Thanks for the guide though! ;D

    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    depends. If u have gold and u can afford it , u can sometimes use irons (lvl 20 irons tho from imortal beast/base scramble2) to level units to 50 or 60 , but that is usually not that effiecient. generally 40-50 is okaish , then start using plat armors + 3 fairies of the same rarity as your unit for a whooping 8k xp per plat armor
    I was more talking about when you first start. I read somewhere to stop using Irons at 10, but then Tenhou suggested I could use them all up to 40. Truth is I started one of the new accounts today after I posted this and I have the full starting army I listed above (with both Leeanne's), a level 20 Prince with three units above him (Kate 22, Bashira 22, and Soma 21), and the rest of my listed army at 10+. I'm sitting comfortably at 10k+ gold, farming Wolve's Den(Commisssion obviously), and doing some challenge missions. It feels like a healthy start. BUT I might not keep the run since I see how easy it is to get to this point in one sitting I might just farm some reset accounts for a nice starting unit, or maybe I just do that for my next account. This one started with Roy (level 15 now) which is obviously poop lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenhou View Post
    DC's are short for demon crystals. It's the thursday daily and you need two CC'd archers for it.
    The monday gold daily much like phalanx 2 makes Cloris ideal to level at some point since she is used in the H difficulty one.

    And in all honesty, aim for the Desert Oasis mission it is the best. Many guides are outdated since they added the desert missions.

    Well, the currently final desert mission at 40 cost is the best overall, but at lower levels it will be difficult so the 30 cost one (oasis) will be your best bet for fodders.
    Desert Oasis mission? That is all.
    Last edited by King Dong; 04-08-2016 at 11:50 PM.

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    Well if you.reset accounts and get Elizabeth or Aisha.. Your account is pretty much set for life. Pretty much any plat apart from a few. Will set your account up nicely

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