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    The Princess, The Bandits, and The Capital of Evil Spirits - Running the Numbers

    I've attached a spreadsheet where you can enter your accounts charisma and stamina information, souls to collect, and Sacred Crystals to use so that you can get an approximation of the resources you want to put in this event.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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    So I did some calculations on what the Sacred Crystal costs would be for this event and figured others might be interested.

    Started with the stamina and charisma made over the 2 weeks:

    24 stamina/day
    480 charisma/day
    14 days * 24 stamina/day = 336 stamina
    14 days * 480 charisma/day = 6720 charisma

    And the drop rates on the best missions to farm:

    Reunion G - Best for souls drop
    60 charisma, 7 stamina
    drops
    1_soul * 1 * 100%, 3_soul * 1 * 100%, 5_soul * 1 * 50%
    ~14 soul average per run
    ~2 souls per stamina
    ~.233 souls per charisma

    Army of the Dead X - Best for souls drops that also has silvers
    50 charisma, 5 stamina
    drops
    3_soul * 2 * 100%, 5_soul * 2 * 30%
    ~9 souls average per run
    ~1.8 souls per stamina
    ~.18 souls per charisma

    Artillery Monsters X - Platinum armor drops for those who need them
    50 charisma, 5 stamina
    drops
    1_soul * 4 * 85%, 5_soul * 1 * 90%
    ~7.9 souls average per run
    ~1.58 souls per stamina
    ~.158 souls per charisma

    Capital of Evil Spirits - I need more silver archers
    40 charisma, 4 stamina
    drops
    1_soul * 3 * 55%, 3_soul * 2 * 80%
    ~6.45 souls average per run
    ~1.6125 souls per stamina
    ~.16125 souls per charisma

    The charisma usage is more efficient than stamina usage for all the missions, so for the sake of determining how many souls can be farmed, they can be ignored. Assuming that you don't mess up the missions and you use your stamina efficiently, the number of souls you accumulate without crystal usage is as follows:

    Reunion G
    336 stamina * 2 souls per stamina ~ 672 souls

    Army of the Dead X
    336 stamina * 1.8 souls per stamina ~ 605 souls

    Artillery Monsters X
    336 stamina * 1.58 souls per stamina ~ 531 souls

    Capital of Evil Spirits
    336 stamina * 1.6125 souls per stamina ~ 542 souls

    Since you need to complete all the missions minus the G missions to get to farm these missions (minus Capital of Evil Spirits), soul collection will be lower than the numbers given. I approximate what you would lose to be about 20.

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    Next, I took into account the crystals that you would earn during the event from collection and missions. I made an assumption that you would be able to spend about 9 crystals, 7 earned from the event missions and 2 from collection rewards (I intentionally left one out from the collection rewards as I based it on my own inability to complete Reunion G). I did the calculations for levels pre-100, 140 to 159 and post-200.

    100) 9 * 12 stamina = 108 stamina
    150) 9 * 15 stamina = 135 stamina
    200) 9 * 18 stamina = 162 stamina

    The total used stamina even with this will still be less than the used charisma, so no shards need be spent on charisma in this scenario. I included the souls per crystal calculation as well, which should still work for up to 11 addition Sacred Crystals used. After that point, breaking crystals for charisma becomes relevant.

    Reunion G
    100) 336 + 108 stamina * 2 souls per stamina ~ 888 souls
    12 stamina/crystal * 2 souls per stamina ~ 24 souls/crystal
    150) 336 + 135 stamina * 2 souls per stamina ~ 942 souls
    15 stamina/crystal * 2 souls per stamina ~ 30 souls/crystal
    200) 336 + 162 stamina * 2 souls per stamina ~ 996 souls
    18 stamina/crystal * 2 souls per stamina ~ 36 souls/crystal

    Army of the Dead X
    100) 336 + 108 stamina * 1.8 souls per stamina ~ 799 souls
    12 stamina/crystal * 1.8 souls per stamina ~ 21.6 souls/crystal
    150) 336 + 135 stamina * 1.8 souls per stamina ~ 848 souls
    15 stamina/crystal * 1.8 souls per stamina ~ 27 souls/crystal
    200) 336 + 162 stamina * 1.8 souls per stamina ~ 896 souls
    18 stamina/crystal * 1.8 souls per stamina ~ 32.4 souls/crystal

    Artillery Monsters X
    100) 336 + 108 stamina * 1.58 souls per stamina ~ 702 souls
    12 stamina/crystal * 1.58 souls per stamina ~ 18.96 souls/crystal
    150) 336 + 135 stamina * 1.58 souls per stamina ~ 744 souls
    15 stamina/crystal * 1.58 souls per stamina ~ 23.7 souls/crystal
    200) 336 + 162 stamina * 1.58 souls per stamina ~ 787 souls
    18 stamina/crystal * 1.58 souls per stamina ~ 28.44 souls/crystal

    Once again, subtract about 20 souls for your previous missions completion.

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    Last, I wanted to know approximately how many crystals it would take if your usage of stamina and charisma was optimal.

    the charisma calculation

    Reunion G
    1600 souls / .2333 souls/charisma ~ 6850 charisma
    ~330 charisma/crystal
    850 charisma/ 330 charisma/crystal ~ 3 crystals

    Others
    1600 souls / .2 souls/charisma ~ 8000 charisma
    ~330 charisma/crystal
    2000 charisma/ 330 charisma/crystal ~ 6 crystals

    So the approximate total Sacred Crystal requirements based on the level you farm are:

    Artillery Monsters X
    1600 souls / 1.58 souls/stamina ~ 1013 stamina
    1013 - 336 = 677 stamina from crystals

    100) 677 stamina / 12 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 62 crystals
    150) 677 stamina / 15 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 51 crystals
    200) 677 stamina / 18 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 44 crystals

    Capital of Evil Spirits
    1600 souls / 1.6125 souls/stamina ~ 992 stamina
    992 - 336 = 656 stamina from crystals

    100) 656 stamina / 12 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 61 crystals
    150) 656 stamina / 15 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 50 crystals
    200) 656 stamina / 18 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 42 crystals

    Army of the Dead X
    1600 souls / 1.8 souls/stamina ~ 889 stamina
    889 - 336 = 553 stamina from crystals

    100) 553 stamina / 12 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 52 crystals
    150) 553 stamina / 15 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 43 crystals
    200) 553 stamina / 18 stamina/crystal + 6 crystals ~ 37 crystals

    Reunion G
    1600 souls / 2 souls/stamina ~ 800 stamina
    800 - 336 = 464 stamina from crystals

    100) 464 stamina / 12 stamina/crystal + 3 crystals ~ 42 crystals
    150) 464 stamina / 15 stamina/crystal + 3 crystals ~ 34 crystals
    200) 464 stamina / 18 stamina/crystal + 3 crystals ~ 29 crystals

    As these calculations do not take into account leveling up, completing all event missions, perfect stamina and charisma usage, etc. as well as random numbers, crystal usage could be higher or lower than these numbers.

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    Final notes:

    These would have been done in a spreadsheet, but I wanted to do some pen and paper math and thought that Sacred Crystal usage calculations for the current event could be fun. If this ends up being useful, I plan on linking a spreadsheet sometime in the near future. If not, I ask that the mods please delete this thread.
    Last edited by Varamathras; 05-04-2016 at 12:18 PM. Reason: Added link to spreadsheet


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    Wow your must really love maths which i hate more than anything, you should do this for other events too anyway thanks for the topic now i can farm at capital of evil spirit map peacefully with my alt as for my main im still struggling at dat damn lich king maps because of high uc...
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    Nice work there.
    Just wanted to point out, though, that I can't use the spreadsheet. I only have view access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotono View Post
    Nice work there.
    Just wanted to point out, though, that I can't use the spreadsheet. I only have view access.
    Go to file > make a copy... and you'll then be able to edit your copy of it.

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    I've changed the mistake in my permissions. It should work now.

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    Trust me, you want to change your avatar

  7. Quote Originally Posted by CharlesRJC View Post
    Trust me, you want to change your avatar
    Even better, nobody keep Harissa around. All I think of when I see her in my barracks now is FarK...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahari Akuma View Post
    Even better, nobody keep Harissa around. All I think of when I see her in my barracks now is FarK...
    Since you mentioned it... crap. Harissa is now completely ruined for me.

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    At 837 souls so far. I've spent 2 stones refreshing charisma, got a level up as well, and the rest has been spent on refreshing stamina for Reunion G.

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    as others said , i suggest you chage your avatar

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