Thread: Who to use as third healer?

I pulled an Iris from the shrine, but I have Alissa and Iris as CCed healers already and was planning on CCing dorca as my third healer. Should I drop Dorca from my plans and use the 2nd Iris?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I pulled an Iris from the shrine, but I have Alissa and Iris as CCed healers already and was planning on CCing dorca as my third healer. Should I drop Dorca from my plans and use the 2nd Iris?

Guess it comes down to what do you prefer. Me I don't like having duplicate units and have put all my other Iris's into my main for CR and skill up (You of course have to cc them at minimum to get a skill up with CC or AW Iris.).


So lets look at it this way Dorca won't be a good as Iris when both are maxed but Dorca will be better for low cost maps by 2 unit points when fully CRed, so Dorca will cost less to use but wont be as effective, with Iris she will cost more but will be better in certain situations.

You already have a Iris correct? So I think it would be better for you to build on a second silver healer for those maps when cost can be an issue. Eventually if you don't feed that Iris as fodder to you main then you may want to lvl her up as well, but there are other gold healers that you may get by then that would be better to work on for variety. That's in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Jay Rich

Guess it comes down to what do you prefer. Me I don't like having duplicate units and have put all my other Iris's into my main for CR and skill up (You of course have to cc them at minimum to get a skill up with CC or AW Iris.).


So lets look at it this way Dorca won't be a good as Iris when both are maxed but Dorca will be better for low cost maps by 2 unit points when fully CRed, so Dorca will cost less to use but wont be as effective, with Iris she will cost more but will be better in certain situations.

You already have a Iris correct? So I think it would be better for you to build on a second silver healer for those maps when cost can be an issue. Eventually if you don't feed that Iris as fodder to you main then you may want to lvl her up as well, but there are other gold healers that you may get by then that would be better to work on for variety. That's in my opinion.

Hmm, I'll probably go with Dorca then. If I use the 2nd copy of Iris to CR/SU the other, is there an optimal level I should have the fodder Iris be?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hmm, I'll probably go with Dorca then. If I use the 2nd copy of Iris to CR/SU the other, is there an optimal level I should have the fodder Iris be?

Im no pro at this game so other veterans may tell you something different and I hope they correct me if I am wrong but with Iris seeing as her skill changes after CC and if you wish to use your second Iris as fodder for your main like I do you will need to CC her also (which can be a little costly in terms of silver units if you have multiple, I have had 3 Iris I have used this way.)

I lvled the fodder Iris to lvl 30 and then CCed and lvled once again to 20-30 so my fodder Iris was 30CC30, a lvl 30cc20 Iris will net you about 710 xp so best used with gold spirits too if your main can still be lvled to max. Just remember a CR and skill up aren't guaranteed the closer you get to max CR and Skill up so it can quite a painful method to do if it doesn't always work.

You can find charts on chances of skill and and CR here.

The "optimal" level to merge units whos skill changes after CC is 30CC20
If the unit does not get a new skill after CC just level 10 (not CC'd or anything).

For your Iris it would be 30CC20.

Having said that, I used two Iris's until I got Fedora and Camilla. Now I use those 3. I hated using duplicate units, but honestly, Iris is way better than the silver healers, though you absolutely want to hold on to a low cost silver healer. Some maps need to to bring out a healer quickly, and silver units are easy to CR as well as being cheap to deploy.

Keep in mind some maps will require 3 healers... and I remember needing 4 in one or two maps, (though I wouldn't worry about those fringe cases). Honestly, Until you pick up another healer (Camilla, Fedora or if the trading post starts rotating again Chydis) I'd rock both Iris's, and a silver of your choice.

The optimal is CC10. Getting them to 20-30 costs more than you gain so it's a net loss.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

The optimal is CC10. Getting them to 20-30 costs more than you gain so it's a net loss.

Cool, I will note that for next time when I use CC units as fodder.

When I started both my accounts (and the 100+ rerolls I did) I kept getting two Iris's at level 10 (well one at level 10 and one the next time I logged in). When I asked this question it was suggested that I use both Iris's with my Alissa on my black account, but I got Marr on my two plat account for a third healer. Even with that being the case I have been considering leveling the second Iris as my 4th healer for Immortal Beast, and any other maps that may need four healers. I have yet to need two cheap healers.