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  1. #21
    1) yes, unless you're somehow filthy rich (like 3mil gold +)
    2) more or less, yes. I would classify them under similar priority, not sure what tenhou thinks though.
    3) for me, yes. I doubt I'll ever use Uzume/Sakuya under normal circumstances, at least. cost too high for what they can offer.
    4) no, considering you have mincosted phyllis. (Phyllis when you need low cost multi-blocker, Cypria/betty when you need to simply thin the waves, aka take them out one by one)
    5) Both yes, but I won't say skip Lilia. She can wait until after those 2, but it's worth maxing her eventually (She is amazing now, and can be even better after AW)
    6) Preferably both, but probably Odette 1st since she's easier to use, aside from her cost.
    7) Yes. You should consider them after all the core units we mentioned before, but these 2 are basically useful for specific situations and fun to play with later on. But not very critical.


  2. #22
    Okay, and thanks everyone for the advice

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    Who to max out really depends on the fairies you get. Are you able to regluarly get black ones? Because otherwise i'd put higher prio on Gellius, Odette and Lilia. Platinum fairies are a lot more easy to come by than blacks for me at least, so i have tons of armours to spare but not enough spirits. Not sure about your situation.

    As for Cellia i think she really should be among the first ones after seeing what you have maxed. Her passive grants 3% more chance to get fairies on maps that drop them and it is increased to 5% once she awakens when we do get it. She also comes with her defense-for-all skill which can be useful at times. Of course, if you feel this is insignificant, go for Horace or Saki instead.

    And yes i do agree that if you have those units maxed, Lynn and Ada can wait a bit longer.

    Lastly, regarding Uzume, she will most likely be more and more important as time goes. Don't underestimate a 10% increase to all your units damage.

  4. #24
    My first pick was Sybilla and I just pulled another one from a base summon. Keep both or SU/CR? I'm having a tough time with the decision mostly because of all the Princesses her awakened form looks like the closest thing to an every map unit rather than a specialized duelist like Karma or Olivie, so I would think two of them would wreck face on some maps. On the other hand, I already have a perfect Horace so such a thing might be excessive.

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    To be fair, Sybilla is considered one of the worse princesses on DMM. Olivie is actually a really good go-to choice. Don't let that low health pool distract you, she has the highest defense, resistance and attack of all the princesses and will survive most things.

    Personally i'd CR/SU the main Sybilla, but that's also a lot due to not wanting to have 2 of the same unit. People will whine when i say that i would do the same with 2x Nanaly, but they can go screw themselves :P

  6. #26
    I wouldn't say Sybilla is the worst. She is still really good and she has a very high single-target ranged DPS. She also has stats that allow her to be used in a lot more situations than Themis, Sherry, or Olivie can handle. You can also use her skill immediately, which is always useful when you're in a pinch.

    The reason why it's easy to assume that Sybilla looks the worst these days is because of how the developers are making Premium Platinum units really good now. They are making them more powerful with Skill Awakenings and are nearly on the level of Black units. There are many good Premium Platinum units now and those include the following: Ridy (Pegasus Rider), Sherry (Princess), Lilia (Princess), Cypria (Rogue), Sabine (Magic Swordsman), and Jessica (Mage Armor). I may have missed some but those are some of the notable ones. They are making Platinum units more appealing to use since they were always overlooked in favor of Black units. It's also because of the difficulty to get them cost reductions compared to event units.

    Don't have a Black unit? Look no further since those Premium Platinum units become very good in the future.
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    Oh, I'd much rather have pulled Olivie than a second Sybilla, don't get me wrong. I started too late to acquire Karma so Olivie's MC hammer dance would be a priceless addition. I just meant that most maps do not actually require an uber duelist and even less require two uber duelists. Basically, I see Sybilla as competing for a slot with my magic fencers and the Saki I haven't yet bothered to acquire, not with Karma or Olivie.

  8. #28
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    Oh, I'd much rather have pulled Olivie than a second Sybilla, don't get me wrong. I started too late to acquire Karma so Olivie's MC hammer dance would be a priceless addition. I just meant that most maps do not actually require an uber duelist and even less require two uber duelists. Basically, I see Sybilla as competing for a slot with my magic fencers and the Saki I haven't yet bothered to acquire, not with Karma or Olivie.
    thing is, magic fencers would be competing against ninjas, not princesses. they're used more for their range than 'magic dmg on activation duelist'
    I'd CR/SU the sybilla prime myself, but doesnt mean that having 2-3 duelist isn't necessary, most notably the somewhat recent 2nd G tier map in Horus event. (3 liches) and the 8th map (also 3 liches)

  9. #29
    As said above, it really depends on your roster and how many good duelists you can field. Once you've been playing for awhile and have a wide variety of units that can fill the same role, even having dupes of amazing units loses its charm. Typically I value diversity more than anything else, because the game rarely gives us maps where two different lanes of the same map are most optimally handled the same way.

    In fact, the only unit I can think of that I ever wished I had a half dozen of to field at once is Lisse Lotte. <_< But she's a bit of a special case since she's a ramp unit.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Rieyn View Post
    As said above, it really depends on your roster and how many good duelists you can field. Once you've been playing for awhile and have a wide variety of units that can fill the same role, even having dupes of amazing units loses its charm. Typically I value diversity more than anything else, because the game rarely gives us maps where two different lanes of the same map are most optimally handled the same way.

    In fact, the only unit I can think of that I ever wished I had a half dozen of to field at once is Lisse Lotte. <_< But she's a bit of a special case since she's a ramp unit.
    frankly speaking that's probably only because she's somewhat easy to mincost and SU. assuming you can get all mincosted/max skilled units, I'd prefer a couple of different ramp units e.g. Jerome+Aria+Katie+Lieselotte, just for multiple different buffs to have, instead of having all be Lieselotte.
    then again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7g_jJEB3s8 disagrees. (naturally, also another special case)

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