Thread: Balance speculation

Samurai's UC reduce is poor beucase they got huge stat buffs

They did get buffs which makes them more appealing to try out, and I really want to one day make use Momiji, but it still feels a little hard to justify. Maybe pairing them with a super dancer makes it more appealing.

The advance guard buff (specifically awoken) puts them at a UP point that makes them appealing as an anti-rush guard that attacks everything they block (and makes Waltz deploy at only 1 cost), so they are budget Samurai Soldiers. Once revival is here and we can get Anya, the big bad Dragon Samurai Princess that can handle the units that normally you don't actually want the Samurai to catch, that makes regular Samurai even less appealing.

At the UP/performance point they are at it feels like the kind of role that would be amazing if it actually had black tier stats and skills but struggles a bit without it. Maybe that's why there is still no Black tier Samurai, the unit would be a monster that slaughters everything short of bosses you need dedicated duelists to catch.

With the new witch buffs, what are the minimum requirements to pass War of Magic now? I do have a CCed Yuyu, but the rest are just freemium units (Cloris/Calliope)

Also, how good is Magical Armor Soldier Jessica? I've been waiting for a summon chance up for Bernice, but maybe Jessica is worth it as well?

a max level yuyu , a cloris and maybe a caliopee should be enough (add a mage for safety and you're good)

U still need like level 2-3 of skill on yuyu btw

These Changes are just insanely good lol. Even if a bit late :P
Since i have no HA besides leeanne and Bernard i was quickly looking at them seeing that bernard got to 400+ def and leeanne to 500+ def now which makes them able to clear awakening missions and tank story mission maps that they did struggle a lot with befor. Heck AW Katie now got so much def that she can compete with an silver HA in terms of tanking at 13 UP lol, her def at AW53 is equal to bernards def pre patch.
My Sherry at AW56 now has more ATK then an AW90 Sherry did pre patch and her skill just got 20% buffed. Archers got generaly more ATK which may be the little extra they need at some points to succesfully clear a map early on or not. Blablabla. Too many changes to talk about all at once lol. What i just can say is that this patch made live in nutaku aigis a lot more easier and opens options to switch units (if u have that many) around for new strategies like u couldnt befor and getting some units now looks even more jucier.
Remember i asked a few days ago about getting saki or an extra copy of spica? Now saki is at -4 UP and even more atk speed just turninger her to a "real" scary black unit.

Originally Posted by lolix

a max level yuyu , a cloris and maybe a caliopee should be enough (add a mage for safety and you're good)

U still need like level 2-3 of skill on yuyu btw

I need to add to this, the Yuyu also needs to be 13up. There are multiple possibilities:
1. One guaranteed cr from a dupe Yuyu,
2. aw her (passive is one cr), but you need to lvl her to 30, because she looses with aw a bit of stats at 1st lvl or
3. having aw Jerome in your team for having 2up more at the start of the map.

Man I am LOVING Shuka now. Dropping her down means I can drop Ada for 5 cost, Waltz for 1, and Prince for 7. So freaking good. Give me Pipin's event so I can get an 14(11) cost healer out on the field as well. Makes me reconsider ignoring the Valk event since that means I can get a gold++ 10 cost valk on the field for 7 giving me more UP generation.

i also have a marnie. After awakening her , i get even cheaper melee stuff. Actually , i think they overbuffded the units for how back we are on the event list compared to DMM. Might make our next events a bit easy

Originally Posted by lolix

a max level yuyu , a cloris and maybe a caliopee should be enough (add a mage for safety and you're good)

U still need like level 2-3 of skill on yuyu btw

Originally Posted by Overload

I need to add to this, the Yuyu also needs to be 13up. There are multiple possibilities:
1. One guaranteed cr from a dupe Yuyu,
2. aw her (passive is one cr), but you need to lvl her to 30, because she looses with aw a bit of stats at 1st lvl or
3. having aw Jerome in your team for having 2up more at the start of the map.

After Sybilla, Yuyu will be my next AW unit, spent most of the last event farming enough Calliopes to AW both, the one downside is I could never manage to get another one after I got my bare minimum I was trying to get. I have a few duplicates of yuyu I want to put into my main, issue is I don't have any more witchs to mini CC these yuyus to get a possible SU with my main.

So going to have to hang on a little longer before I can do War of Magic. Farming black spirits is so close yet so far

Originally Posted by Nero010

Remember i asked a few days ago about getting saki or an extra copy of spica? Now saki is at -4 UP and even more atk speed just turninger her to a "real" scary black unit.

before the update I gave in and thought I would min cost Spica, I bought a AW spirit and another copy of her with the DC's I had. I guess that seems to have paid off if Saki got a -4 UP I shouldn't have to worry about her as much seeing as many believe from DMM experience that Spica will change before Saki.

Originally Posted by Talith

Man I am LOVING Shuka now. Dropping her down means I can drop Ada for 5 cost, Waltz for 1, and Prince for 7. So freaking good. Give me Pipin's event so I can get an 14(11) cost healer out on the field as well. Makes me reconsider ignoring the Valk event since that means I can get a gold++ 10 cost valk on the field for 7 giving me more UP generation.

Oh how I want Shuka so bad, should have found this game earlier so I would have been strong enough to get her. Didn't get any units that event because I only just started playing. Can't wait for the revival event on this one...but that seems sooo faarr away....

Originally Posted by lolix

i also have a marnie. After awakening her , i get even cheaper melee stuff. Actually , i think they overbuffded the units for how back we are on the event list compared to DMM. Might make our next events a bit easy

Is Marnie better than Waltz? wondering which one I should lvl as my first dance. I have a few Waltz I can combine into my main so I would be able to CR and SU her better than Marnie but I have heard Marnie is the better dance??

Marnie has a better AW ability and her skill is often better assuming skill levels are on par (5/5 vs 10/10, or 1v1, etc.) due to slightly more range and shorter CD (though Waltz's has longer duration, 7 seconds if both skills are maxed which may sometimes be more helpful), which is why she's considered better since they otherwise largely do the same thing. That said, if you don't have Marnie or you can CR/SU Waltz multiple times without doing the same for Marnie, you might as well use her for now, assuming you have the spare resources to level her.