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    need advice for long term strategy

    hey there i usually read this forum but rarely post; now i'm at a point on aigis i dont really know what is better to do next, i can usually do event without a lot of problems, only having problem with the story map (stuck at the danger in the oasis).
    I'm current lv 177 with around 1 million gold and 260 demon crystal, the point i dont know wich unit i should aw next, what my team really need to improve(aside from reduce cost), i cashed in the past but dont plan to cash in the future( 2 time 150 sc with only 3 plat in total...)
    Thx all your your advice
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    I saw Jerome not AW'd. I didn't need to continue looking. that's your answer.

    edit: took a 2nd look. I'd say AW whatever units you use the most yourself. you can either AW utility units (Len, Shuuka, monica, cellia, katie etc. drop boosters are included here), or units like Horus, Shizuka, claudia, Lyla, Saki which is basically focusing on your duelist component which seems a bit weak aside from clissa. also max level elizabeth and claudia before anything else though.
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    the best map for lvling is base scramble 2. so i wouldnt be to worried if you cant 2 the last 2 maps yet tho seems weird you can.

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    jerome and elizabeth

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    scratch elizabeth i wpuld go for len. defense M is very nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by switch View Post
    scratch elizabeth i wpuld go for len. defense M is very nice
    "Skip the almost-nanaly-powered Vampire Hunter, who will be a great asset, for a much more situational unit."

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    He's doing fine in the duelist department. He has the 3 best barbarians in the game (lyla/imelia/celia) + clissa + claudia. He just needs to raise them a bit.


    As for AWs , my rule of thumb is : multipliers (like spica/bernice/belidna/katie/etc) and units that increase drop rates(celia/monica) get AW-ed first because of their utility. Speaking of utility , jerome is also a very good pick ,as sora said


    Looking at your team , i'd follow what sora said , and awaken jerome first. Then i'd go either for monica for DC drop rates or bernice , since she boosts both her defense and makes an already strong gellius even tankier. Then i'd go cellia for increased drop rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenhou View Post
    "Skip the almost-nanaly-powered Vampire Hunter, who will be a great asset, for a much more situational unit."
    to be fair , elizabeth , just as nanaly , gets just range post aw , and 40 or so more base damage. That's pretty weak compared to what other AW are avaible. Not saying he shouldn't , because even that 40 damage is a lot during her skill and her 3 shots , but it's still not that high impact of an AW IMO. Not saying that len is a better choice tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    to be fair , elizabeth , just as nanaly , gets just range post aw , and 40 or so more base damage. That's pretty weak compared to what other AW are avaible. Not saying he shouldn't , because even that 40 damage is a lot during her skill and her 3 shots , but it's still not that high impact of an AW IMO. Not saying that len is a better choice tho...
    Don't underestimate range, especially for a vampire hunter which is a rather low range class to begin with. 15 is quite a damn lot and allows Elizabeth to be placed in positions where normal VH's cannot cover everything. That said, i agree on not AWing her first and i never said so either.

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    Jerome should be the first thing you awaken. Due to his skill not changing, and his cost, Ive found he's worse CC'd than Pre-CC'd due to the 3 extra UP to deploy him when his main role is generating more UP. After Awakening however he is better due to the +2 boost to starting UP.

    For more short term gain, awakening Elizabeth is good given she is generally a good unit, and it lets you increase her max damage as well as increasing her range.

    That said, if you are looking at long term strategy, I would personally suggest prioritizing Cellia (for better spirit drop rates), Monica (for better DC drop rates), and as an eventually (though lower priority than more useful combat units) Cuterie (for better gift drop rates, though provided you aren't trying to max affection every girl, instead just focusing on those you use, you likely don't have too many issues with running out of gifts).

    As for other useful units to awaken in no particular order:

    Saki, if you use her. Ninja presently get a -4 cost reduction on awakening (eventually a patch will reduce their normal cost by 2, making the awakening reduction 2 as well, but until then...), and in her case she also gets a faster attack speed, making her much more useful. That said, if you don't use her much it's likely not worth it.

    Odette will be handy to awaken as what looks like your primary mage. Mostly, due to gaining more damage helping to more quickly take out groups, though her increase in MR may occasionally also be handy.

    Len might be useful, as noted she boosts everyone's defense by 5% and when you use her she will reduce the skill cooldown timers even more than before awaken. That said, I've personally not felt that I needed to awaken her but preferance may vary.

    Claudia is quite handy to awaken as a princess and likely one of your better Duelists. Her true damage skill may prove quite useful in the future, and she has fairly good stats beside. Awakening will just make her better.

    Iris is a good pick as a healer. Awakening her will cause her to heal everyone when deployed (something I actually used to 3* Danger in the Oasis as to prevent the early group of axe throwers killing my units before they could be dealt with, though admittedly I had a mine min-costed as well). Admittedly you already have the platinum healer awakened who has a stronger version of that ability so it may be a slightly lower priority, and you may potentially get more out of Fedora.

    Bernice is a rather good tank. While you do already have an awakened Gellius, eventually you should awaken her as well. Not only is her defense only slightly lower than Gellius, she also increases the defense of all Heavy Armours by 5% just by being in your sortie.

    Fedora. While I don't use her, having already leveled Iris enough and having some other better healers as well, she does have a higher non-skill heal at max level, and her awakening reduced her UP cost by 1, making her faster to deploy. Additionally her range increase skill may be useful in some situations.

    Cloris or Yuyu would be useful to awaken, due to filling the role of a ranged magic damage dealer. My personal preference would be Yuyu, as she has notably higher base damage, can be CRed and awakening further lowers her cost by 1. That said, Cloris has better burst damage with her skill, and does gain a low chance to instant kill enemies when she hits them (not really enough to be relied on, but it is a potentially nice benefit)

    Katie may be nowhere near as good as Jerome, but she is still useful, and her awaken ability gives everyone +2% defense if she's in the sortie. Not a high priority, but potentially worth doing eventually.

    Outside awakening units, you also seem to have duplicates of some units you seem to use. While it ultimately is up to you, it likely is worth using them to CR/Skill up the copies you are using, though I would note in advance that eventually when rainbow crystals are introduced, you can gain them by discharging higher rarity units (and then spend them to get some very nice units from the trading post), so if you don't feel the chance of a cost reduction is worth it, it may be better to save them for that (to clarify, the units you can get cost 1000 rainbow crystals, while non-event platinums give 100. I forget how much other rarities give, but high rarity provides more). I would note though that in the case of Cellia and Fedora, it may be best to wait until after awakening to combine them so as to gain the experience as well.

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    well jerome was the one i was planning to aw next(just capped his trust this week) and i guess i'll farm the orbs to aw him, about the second i rarely use a second tank or either len, is that 5% def(around 30 def ) for gellius really important? are there any other unit i should focus for when aw skill will be added(have like 20 rainbow for it) and should i use my second clissa just to reduce my main cost by 1?
    edit: just a few info about some unit
    odette she has 40 cost sadly i'd just started on late august so i was able to get only one of her
    fedora has her cost reduced to 17(min)
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    if you have time to place a 35 up mage , u probably have time to place a 40 up mage IMO. That being said , 5% defense on itself is not that much. But combine with prince buff , combine with katie , combine with len. Every little helps. Especially during his skill duration.


    Then again , bernice is not a priority for you now i guess , but she is one of the better gold units to awaken in general IMO. Her SAW looks good as well , when we'll get that

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    He's doing fine in the duelist department. He has the 3 best barbarians in the game (lyla/imelia/celia) + clissa + claudia. He just needs to raise them a bit.


    As for AWs , my rule of thumb is : multipliers (like spica/bernice/belidna/katie/etc) and units that increase drop rates(celia/monica) get AW-ed first because of their utility. Speaking of utility , jerome is also a very good pick ,as sora said


    Looking at your team , i'd follow what sora said , and awaken jerome first. Then i'd go either for monica for DC drop rates or bernice , since she boosts both her defense and makes an already strong gellius even tankier. Then i'd go cellia for increased drop rate

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    to be fair , elizabeth , just as nanaly , gets just range post aw , and 40 or so more base damage. That's pretty weak compared to what other AW are avaible. Not saying he shouldn't , because even that 40 damage is a lot during her skill and her 3 shots , but it's still not that high impact of an AW IMO. Not saying that len is a better choice tho...
    you already said it, they're not level'd.

    as for elizabeth vs Len, I'd go for Len as well because defense buff for when it's needed since she's useless otherwise, unlike elizabeth who can be used even pre-AW. also, 30% faster skill reuse. *looks at subjugation* she basically allows you to ramp up your team much, much faster in subjugations.

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