Thread: Some questions

I wouldn't restart. Getting more silvers can be painful, but it's manageable. Only 30CC'ing an important unit like Katie or Bashira would be restart-worthy, IMO.

If you need archers, assuming the next event is Claudia, Daniela is a drop from the third (40/4) map.

You shouldn't really expect to get more than 20-30 DCs a week without refills.

lol, adele is great, especially when you can AW her.
yuyu is also arguably best of gold witches.

there is no need to reroll. you just need to spend some time grinding. natural refills are fine since it's break now and all that. just prioritize leveling the standard core team units: katie, bashira, soma/daniela, leeanne, adele (replaced cloris), iris, alissa, valerie.
get the above all to 50cc30, 100% affection. focus on farming Return to Ruins, and deep forest road when you're out of gold (sell units from deep forest road, don't use them for leveling). as for affection, go youtube EthEternal videos to clear story missions and challenge missions. (once again remember Adele replaces cloris) 1* skip if necessary, your priority is getting to return to ruins/remnant vanquish 3/flame dragon/dragon hunting (any of these 4 for prince level and unit exp) and phalanx 2 (for challenge quests, stamina use)

as for dailys, only do monday and thursday daily and ignore every other daily. also refer to etheternal for clearing daily missions. thursday daily H in particular requires 2 cc'd archers and 2 cc'd healers (you can use pre-CC'd ones if at least one or both of them have high attack/level and affection), while phalanx 2 (affection farming map) requires 2~3 witches.

once you reach 50 SC spent for this month, avoid premium summons and only use them for charisma/stamina refills when you feel it's necessary (to power level units to clear event maps, or to play event maps multiple times for more drops) and for box expansion until you get barracks. Alternatively, refer to the stickied threads in this forum (lafate's SC use for freemium guide and unit guide)

Originally Posted by lolix

yuyu and adele are pretty decent ( i actually advicse o raising yuyu and skip cloris , right after adele. Yuyu should be able to help you pass the wall of war of magic - which i still can't pass on 1 account.) That being sqaid , i think you linked the same picture twice. If you didn't , and all u got from 40 scs were adele , 2 yuyus and 1 gold monk , then you are indeed pretty unlucky. I mean , adele is a good witch , but anything not named despara is not that great. I mean , witches have their uses , and all that , but cloris can cover the attack side , while belinda/yuyu can cover the range side good enough that you can make do without anything else.


As for DCs , the H mode gives on average better , but usually i get between 9 and 12 , so it won't be a massive improvement. (still 50% is something). Btw , speaking of 2 accounts , i also have 2 and both are 160+ and i enjoy them both. Its up to you in the end , but you haven't invested that much in this 1 , and a single black summon would already make your new account better then this 1 quite a bit (assuming you get lucky). Hell , even some plat summons like camilla or gelius would be a massive boost

PS: i suggest using 50 sc at once when you decide to do so , because it will upgrade your stampcard for the next month

Re edited 2nd image, and seems its good to reroll another acc because cloris is already good and adele didnt needed, so i'll wait for an useful boost event. I was waiting for other dailies to fill 50 sc on stampcard.
As for dcs i read a guy got spica in a day, seems he is a pay to winner in this case

@eab sorry i didnt get your third sentence, i never cc my units below 50 level and bashira didnt cced :P

The only thing im afraid of is the upcoming event like you said which i wont be ready if i make a new account.

i disagree sora. Sure , adele is good , but she's not a needed unit. It would be like a newbie getting jeromme on his first draws. Ofc jerome is a great pick up , but not really needed since we have katie. And katie can perform just as good untill a very long way into the game. Its the same thing with cloris and adele.
Actually , on my second acount , were i didnt passed the wall of magic , i would chose a yuyu over adele any day. She gets good base attack for being an elf (she rivals belinda , with just single digits less attack) and she gets the range necesary to be usefull in war of magic.


From this point of view , adele , is really not that great of a pick up for a starter.

Lolwut, that's a bad example. Jerome is a hell of a starter draw. Hell, even Julian is a great starter. Two gold+ soldiers are better than one in this case, especially since newbies won't have Aria or be able to mincost Julian.

A better example would be someone like Gina. A great unit in a niche class that doesn't become amazing until AW.

At any rate, witches are always good to have, but I'd also prioritize Yuyu over Adele first.

Originally Posted by lolix

i disagree sora. Sure , adele is good , but she's not a needed unit. It would be like a newbie getting jeromme on his first draws. Ofc jerome is a great pick up , but not really needed since we have katie. And katie can perform just as good untill a very long way into the game. Its the same thing with cloris and adele.
Actually , on my second acount , were i didnt passed the wall of magic , i would chose a yuyu over adele any day. She gets good base attack for being an elf (she rivals belinda , with just single digits less attack) and she gets the range necesary to be usefull in war of magic.


From this point of view , adele , is really not that great of a pick up for a starter.

but there is no need to reroll just because of that. eventually she WILL be awesome. and newbies don't NEED particular shrine summons except maybe princess and a ranged melee (only option being Hina atm)
and like I said, Adele can replace cloris completely, which allows you to avoid using her completely as well. you need to look at the long term aspect as well. frankly speaking it's better to get a good shrine summon unit that you'll use forever than a unit that is only helpful early game (like themis/kerry who pretty much gets to warm the bench after claudia and other princesses and/or possible princess replacements)

any other shrine unit is mostly just GOOD to have, and not a MUST. the game's designed such that you don't need anything beyond your starter set and can eventually use event units to make up for the weak points.
edit: also, the only reason I'm prioritizing adele/cloris over yuyu is due to increase attack skill, which is more helpful than yuyu's higher base atk/atk speed in phalanx 2. adele/cloris will enable you to clear it earlier at a lower level and more easily. you'll eventually want to level both anyway.

again , i disagree. First of all , cc-ing plats is an expensive deal , and unless he really needs a plat soldier cc-ed , katie is by far a better/cheaper choice. Also , wasting resources for 2 soldiers is pointless , seeing as just 1 is enough for most maps (untill now i never even had a need for another cc-ed soldier - even for a phyliss) , when he could cc an archer , or a healer or a heavy instead. Building a core team fast is better then cc-ing and raising multiple units of the same class , as a newbie

@sora i would argue that there are plenty of good units that are good to have both early AND late game. Getting a bernice is good. Getting a plat mage is good. getting a camilla is good. Getting any black not named clissa is good (and even clissa is a very good duelist) , and so on. There are plenty of units that are good both early and late

Jerome doesn't even need to be CC'd to be useful. I didn't even level Julian for a long time, but I still got way more mileage out of him at base level than I ever got with Phyllis.

Some people even hold off on CC'ing Jerome because his skill doesn't change. It's not until AW that he makes up for his increased cost. He's still amazing to have.

And maybe you don't need two soldiers, but having that much more UP at the start gives you a lot more breathing room for any map that isn't a rush map. Not sure why this is even a point to debate. Any amount of time/resources spent on soldiers isn't really wasteful. Most of them should only be sturdy enough to handle goblin/wolf rushes long enough to get their skill ready, which both Julian and Jerome can do without dedicating too much time to them.

obviously , but it doesn't change the fact that there are way better units to get at the begining. I guess i have higher expectations since my first summons were camilla on 1 account and nanaly on the the other , but i think getting adele at the begining was quite unlucky

Originally Posted by lolix

obviously , but it doesn't change the fact that there are way better units to get at the begining. I guess i have higher expectations since my first summons were camilla on 1 account and nanaly on the the other , but i think getting adele at the begining was quite unlucky

I find it unnecessary because my 1st 5 summons were 5 silvers. it was only like 3~4 weeks into the game before I rolled another 5 and got decent ones (lilia, hina, themis and iris)
you can live w/o rerolling. getting anything else is lucky enough.