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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Honestly i got say that you guys did a terrible job on the balance of the rewards. 100K points to get a single 5 star is just ridiculous, you would have to grind this day and night to get it...people have jobs and a life you know. But by far the worst one is the dojo...like really, even with a full group of max lv 6 stars with all stats capped i cant find a way to win...hell, if I used affection to get 20% stat boost, that should be overkill and I should be able to stomp everything i my way, but thats not what happens...this event is de definition of unfair, the enemy is way stronger, faster and more resistent, there is no strategy involved, is all about luck. This is my experince at floor 89, only god knows what nonsense is waiting at the higher levels.
    So in conclusion, i kind of like this game and all, but you guys are making what was supposed to be fun and relaxing into just pure frustration.
    All feedback we received from users is that the 500k reward was too much, but the 100k reward is reachable for every player. We have lots of players that already reached the 100k mark for several days now, with around nine more days of the event.
    We had to release something for these players to keep their interest in the game.

    While you do not get the additional fight before battles in the advanced dojo, the extra stage is unlocked after some battles, this is the reason we mentioned that for the rebellion event you get points by doing almost any battle.

    Even if you do only the advanced dojo with the unlocked stage that gives 600 points,which is also unlockable with free magatama you can easily get to 100k.

    We do agree that for the Advanced dungeon you need specific tailored formation for each level to be able to complete it and that you require a fair amount of time spent in game to farm these in the events or draw them from gacha. There are guides that give several options for the formations that can complete levels.

    We plan to re add this event again, in this form, when enough new players have joined, which means that you can continue farming for 1* Yazou then, but also in the new version available on DMM, once we receive the details.

    We also give out more magatamas and login bonuses just so that you can use them to fill out the gaps in any of the events.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff View Post
    There are guides that give several options for the formations that can complete levels.
    May I ask for links to those guides? Thou I don't use nor plan to use Discord so if they are there - they are non existed to me .

  3. #483
    All games have a degree of difficulty to reward value, not everything will be achievable by those who are new to the game or aren't willing to commit to games. This degree of toughness gives a challenge to those players who have commit to the game and offer a great reward at the end, it may be painfully annoying to other players seeing this goal but knowing they wont reach it.

    Being a new event to Sengoku Providence and not having many veteran players or DMM players to shower their knowledge down on us like many other Nutaku games makes going into these events painful as you really don't know what to expect. This advanced dojo is the first dojo I have tried to reach the end with and I found it surprising at first how hard it was.

    I am a newish player so you can understand how I am not expected to do these hard dojo levels compared to someone who has been playing longer than I have. You can also bring the creature senkai into the dojo unlike total war so you are not limited to gacha senkai which gives free players a chance to compete.

    I am also glad to hear that this event will come back eventually meaning if you can wait you don't need to go all out in the first one, unless you really want the unit.

    At my current rate I do believe I can get this event unit 6*ed. I currently have 29x1*, 1x2*, 1x3* and 1x4*, so if my maths is correct (and correct me if I am wrong) to get one 6* you need a total of 78x1*'s I should only need another 33 roughly which works out at 3.33 drops per day. I have blown quite a few Magas for this event but not lots. I was at 140 magas at the start of the event and I have been getting the daily magas plus some login rewards and other ones and I have only dropped down to 130 magas so really it hasn't been to costly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Rich View Post
    At my current rate I do believe I can get this event unit 6*ed. I currently have 29x1*, 1x2*, 1x3* and 1x4*, so if my maths is correct (and correct me if I am wrong) to get one 6* you need a total of 78x1*'s I should only need another 33 roughly which works out at 3.33 drops per day. I have blown quite a few Magas for this event but not lots. I was at 140 magas at the start of the event and I have been getting the daily magas plus some login rewards and other ones and I have only dropped down to 130 magas so really it hasn't been to costly.
    Did math a few posts back. I think its a good math. As in nobody corrected me hehe.

    http://harem-battle.club/others/2567...html#post61775

    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor86 View Post
    Grand total to get a 6* X-Luk girl from this event is then a 2*, 3* and 4* that 100% drop from mission rewards till level 80 of dojo, and a total of 61+X 1* (so 62 for base 1-Luk, 161 for 99-Luk). If one is able to reach floor 100 and thus get a 100% guaranteed mission rewards 5* drop - those numbers go down by 30, a.k.a. 31+X 1* (so 32 for 1-Luk, 131 for 99-Luk).

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff View Post
    All feedback we received from users is that the 500k reward was too much, but the 100k reward is reachable for every player. We have lots of players that already reached the 100k mark for several days now, with around nine more days of the event.
    We had to release something for these players to keep their interest in the game.

    While you do not get the additional fight before battles in the advanced dojo, the extra stage is unlocked after some battles, this is the reason we mentioned that for the rebellion event you get points by doing almost any battle.

    Even if you do only the advanced dojo with the unlocked stage that gives 600 points,which is also unlockable with free magatama you can easily get to 100k.

    We do agree that for the Advanced dungeon you need specific tailored formation for each level to be able to complete it and that you require a fair amount of time spent in game to farm these in the events or draw them from gacha. There are guides that give several options for the formations that can complete levels.

    We plan to re add this event again, in this form, when enough new players have joined, which means that you can continue farming for 1* Yazou then, but also in the new version available on DMM, once we receive the details.

    We also give out more magatamas and login bonuses just so that you can use them to fill out the gaps in any of the events.
    If the 100k reward was what you were expecting players to aim for, then that should have been used to advertise the event instead of the 500k reward.

  6. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor86 View Post
    Did math a few posts back. I think its a good math. As in nobody corrected me hehe.

    http://harem-battle.club/others/2567...html#post61775
    That sweet feeling to get a 6* senkai knowing every other drop you get is an addition to her luck and not that horrid feeling of not 6*ing her in time before event end, which is the boat we are currently riding. In a way it is also depressing to know to 99 luck her you would need that many drops. The amount of stamina needed for that alone is depressing haha.
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  7. #487
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulkraken View Post
    If the 100k reward was what you were expecting players to aim for, then that should have been used to advertise the event instead of the 500k reward.
    We admit that we could have created a better banner and focus more on the main reward or at least show all rewards.

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    Since there's a dev team contact here (probably, can't say for real with them being Guest and such ) I may as well give some of my feedback.

    Rebellion event is GREAT... once you figure out that main reward is getting the one of paywall premium 5* characters for free and stop shooting for the top place . It's biggest draw that players can run it basically for free, by just farming normal maps, strengthening their teams and so on. Equally (for me) good point is that it has visible and steady progress, being point accumulation and all. It feels good to see that every drop of resources you pour into it pushes you forward to the goal! And the set-point huge payoff map that unlocks with stamina spent is the greatest thing ever!

    Adv Dojo, on the other hand, feels terrible in comparison. Not only it forces one to forgo all other activities and cut into other event's progress, it is also of the worst kind: that throws you at the (nonexistent) mercy of Random Number Goddess by forcing you to farm drops at the laughable chances. Or asks for a very specific compositions of gacha 5* (and we all know just how much they are (in)accessible for non-whales), fully evolved / godified at that, for better rates, all while still facing a very grim possibility of game laughing at your face by spending several hundreds of stamina points for no progress at all with dry runs.

    Both feel a bit too grindy. Halving the requirements and duration might make them feel more dynamic, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Rich View Post
    That sweet feeling to get a 6* senkai knowing every other drop you get is an addition to her luck and not that horrid feeling of not 6*ing her in time before event end, which is the boat we are currently riding. In a way it is also depressing to know to 99 luck her you would need that many drops. The amount of stamina needed for that alone is depressing haha.
    Maybe for you. My drops are so luck luster that I won't be even in half of my way towards 6*. If what supposed dev said is true, that we will actually get a total of 2 reruns (one reissue ala DMM and one pure copy of this event just in later time. One as myself could consider getting a 5* out of this event, and then use all surplus of 1* dropping to basically create as high luck 1* as possible. Then when re-events appear just use all additional 2/3/4/5* drops and 1* to finish that 1* 99-Luk girl, and with her make a 99-Luk 5* to combine with one already made and few additional girls and then have a 99-Luk 6*.

    Question only is whats the time frame of waiting here. Aka how long we would need to wait for those re-events, will they allow us to get 2/3/4/5* like this one, or will they be just a 1* additional drops, and of course if that info about there being two of them is true.

    EDIT:

    Its cute how gachas that are supposed to help us with dojo are paid only. People who pay already finished dojo probably ages ago. And people who don't pay like me are rather pushed towards stopping playing rather than dropping a dime or two to have it easier.

    45% dmg reduction for dark grils from light being paid only is also kinda BS (Technically you can 'try' getting her via single 5 magas spins GL with getting her thou).

    Collab with that idiotic game Idol Z is also kinda meh. I wish we had at least some kind of tracker to see what we managed to complete, cause if someone has stuff done before its like a guessing game if it will count or do I need to do something.

    At least future rebellion event with a 99-Luk girl as a 100k points rewards seems nice assuming they will keep points gains as they are in this rebellion event.

    EDIT 2:

    Also can we get a "switch the banners off" button like we have in X-Overd? Those flashy changing stuff are obnoxious and annoying.

    EDIT 3:

    Is at least the 6* version of dojo girl h-scene animated? Was kinda disappointed that her 5* isn't animated like all other 5* I got from girl events (that are actually easier to do that this dojo event lol).
    Last edited by Eversor86; 02-16-2017 at 06:56 AM.

  10. I don't know, I've been playing Sengoku Providence since it's release...it's not that friendly to new players.

    Even these new events are near impossible for newer players despite these "staff".

    I have 6 5-star but all of these have come from the events and christmas, new year gachas. I feel if I was go keep going but I feel I would be left so far behind despite have 240ish free magatama...they are fairly worthless but will allow me to finish the more recent events with no problems.

    My "guild" has died 3 times. I'm not feeling it. This game is just going to die, if I, being a day 1 free player feel like I'm being left behind.

    There will be no new players that can get into this game and will stay. The staff better get this through their heads. Even those that have held on won't be around for much longer.

    Even whales need fodder to fight in GvG.

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