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  1. #61
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    It's a rigged gacha. Don't even try it, or the game itself.
    Go to DMM to play this instead.

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    My opinion on this bullshit is that it is high time we spoke up to Nutaku about their shitty business practices - with the lack of money or support.

    When entire game features are paywalled, when units not originally paywalled are made paywalled, when the high-end rates are reduced to just about zero and the original rates are paywalled, this is absolutely unacceptable for the players.

    We won't tolerate such blatant greed and abuse of the playerbase. Say NO to Nutaku Sengoku Providence!


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    Really, I'm only participating in this so that I can form the Uesugi-Takeda coalition, being an actual Uesugi irl myself

    But really, this gacha is pissing me off; my main account pulls EVERYTHING BUT the scion of Uesugi Kenshin, while my alt pulls NOTHING BUT Kagekatsu . And as far as I'm able to tell, there's no Takeda available in the current gacha, minus points for that
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    Never played the DMM version, but $25 per 5* doesn't seem like a good deal. Managed to get Oda Nobunaga after a week of rolls though, so guess I'll give the game a shot when its released. I like turn based RPGs and the art does look nice.

    I eventually end up spending something on games I enjoy playing for a while, but annoying paywalls make me less likely to spend money, not more. Stuff like the Black Friday deals for Flower Knight Girl is what gets me to open my wallet, not this nonsense.

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    Worst launch EVER. Nutaku what are you doing? I hope this game will fail.
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    Though I do not expect to be playing this, I was wondering about what people said.
    First pull was a 4*, 9th pull was the 5* Nankoubou Tenkai. A single day of pulls.
    She is nice, though if I had to choose to pay for another slot and the unlocked girls I would wanna get Akechi Mitsuhide.
    Normally I dont really like girls of that type, but this one just... I dunno, clicks with me.

    That being said, since part of the game features are locked behind a paywall (wtf, who is the CO for this release, fire that person immediately), and the two extra girls are also behind it, I wont bother. I might have been tempted If Akechi was viable via normal pull, not after paying 25$ for a slot, plus those locked features... come on. I didnt wanna go into this since it seems like a PVP, but was slightly tempted to try it.
    Not anymore - which is a shame really, the game looks intresting enough, and I do dig that art (Akechi.... uch, how the heck did you charm me you Tanuki woman ! )
    Last edited by Myrdin; 12-03-2016 at 01:55 AM.

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    ...wait are certain heros locked behind paywalls

    and if so can you unlock them in game

    ...and yeh heavy PvP = wha;e fest and epenis game

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattress View Post
    Worst launch EVER. Nutaku what are you doing? I hope this game will fail.
    It will go the way of so many of their titles. They've never publicly released stats on their games, the way DMM does to drive hype, which all the more makes me leery of spending any money or time on new releases. I hope they NEVER get their hands on KanColle, because they don't ever deserve a cash cow like that, seeing how they've been running fraudulent paywall schemes.

    I know what Nutaku is after, because so many tech companies have tried (and failed) to do ... they want to do things, even if it's downright scummy, to drive up the green on the ledger sheets, to entice acquisition, so that their founder(s) can make millions cashing the whole thing in. And if you think it's bad now, wait till whoever buys them out runs the show. There'll be tsunami of tears clogging up ethernet cables all around the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discoceris View Post
    I know what Nutaku is after, because so many tech companies have tried (and failed) to do ... they want to do things, even if it's downright scummy, to drive up the green on the ledger sheets, to entice acquisition, so that their founder(s) can make millions cashing the whole thing in. And if you think it's bad now, wait till whoever buys them out runs the show. There'll be tsunami of tears clogging up ethernet cables all around the world.
    Yet they are running $2 000 000 (and now $10 000 000) investment funds into english developers willing to do naughty games... Curious ways to drive ledgers to green, huh?

    Besides, Nutaku doesn't develop any of their hosted games.


    Doesn't make this version any less scammy. I'd would hope there won't be that many idiots who would support this bullcrap paywall policies and players would show devs behind this that such things are unacceptable, but not gonna delude myself. People with more dough than common sense will happily open their wallets anyway.
    Well, b!tching on fan forums won't do much regardless. If any of you want to take it out on devs, take it to them, on social media outlets or something
    Last edited by ZeroZet; 12-03-2016 at 05:36 AM.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Errant View Post
    Never played the DMM version, but $25 per 5* doesn't seem like a good deal. Managed to get Oda Nobunaga after a week of rolls though, so guess I'll give the game a shot when its released. I like turn based RPGs and the art does look nice.

    I eventually end up spending something on games I enjoy playing for a while, but annoying paywalls make me less likely to spend money, not more. Stuff like the Black Friday deals for Flower Knight Girl is what gets me to open my wallet, not this nonsense.
    It's not. I'm just going to rip my comparison between us prereg and jp prereg from ulmf and paste it here (With some edits since I was pissed when I wrote it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wankyudo
    First, the very noticeable lack of the 50 = 1 guaranteed 5*. Anything below 5* doesn't help in the end dungeons. At all. The stat difference between a 4* -> 5* and a 5* - 6* is very noticeable in addition to the skill advantages.

    Second, JP preregistering came with a 5* NO MATTER WHAT. Yamamoto Kansuke was a girl who was given to every single person who preregistered, who made a difference for a lot of people. Especially further down the line when she received her godified form that made light teams viable against dark teams again. (She also wasn't added to the preregister pool since she was being given for free. They didn't even want to pad their pool with her, which they'd be well justified in doing)

    Third, the pool of 5* pull is even lower then jp preregister. I'm counting six on their front page; which in a release of a new game would be understandable, but it doesn't even compare to the whopping 11 available at JP preregister time. Yododono, Nohime, Eishoin, Hideyoshi Toyotomi, Nene, Akechi Mitsuhide, Ieyasu Tokugawa, Nankoubou Tenkai, Oda Nobunaga, Ishida Mitsunari, and finally Tadakatsu Honda.

    40 dollars would net you a 10 roll with one guaranteed 5*. That's one 5* in addition to 9 other units who can be additional 5* or fodder units to exchange. During super white gacha time (Which happened every one or two months), it's 40 jewels (Which more or less was 40 dollars) and would net you 10 units, one guaranteed 6* (Because every girl is pre-evolved) and 9 either evolved 4*-5* or 5*-6*. And it started early into the lifetime of the game.

    Fourth, that basic QoL function (x2 speed/auto hit) becomes a necessity to maintain your own sanity. This games dungeons and events favor quantity over quality. Majority of the events I ran involved 100 stages, which without either of those two becomes excruciatingly mind-numbing. Locking that behind the same paywall is a dirtbag thing to do.

    Honorable mention goes to the reduced rates.
    In short, $50 for 3 chances at a 5* (You can still have abysmal luck and get nothing) vs 2 guaranteed and (And free) 5* (Yamamoto and whoever you end up rolling). Then spending $40 dollars on another guaranteed 5* + 9 potential 5* or waiting to that super white and getting 2 guaranteed 5* + 1 guaranteed 6* + 9 guaranteed 5* (Either evolved 5s or evolved 6s)

    Superhippo and Nutaku can go jump off a bridge. This is just an abomination

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    As I said before. The CO responsible for this release needs to be fired immediately, and regardless of gender castrated so this genes of imbecility and greed do not spread any further.

    Just the sheer volume of difference in those two releases is mind boggling.

    If I could understand Japanese language, and was on time for the release of these games on DMM I would not be supporting this company (NUTAKU) by any stretch of imagination. Granted - In games like these where many events are non repeatable and you can permanently miss on stuff I would have to make it in time. I hate starting such games unless I was there from the very beginning (reason why I stuck to FKG and X-Overd, even though I did try Aegis and Kampani Girls) and as such avoided missing out on stuff.
    Alas here I am, for I do not posses the benefits I mentioned above... yet, that is.
    Last edited by Myrdin; 12-04-2016 at 07:32 AM.

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