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  1. #11
    I've just done a quick test to confirm that, when you fuse a general who has leveled up quite a ways into another general, 70% of the experience put into the first general carries over. That's about in line with what I expected.

    As for whether attack power or bonus damage is stronger, I think it varies some on the power and leadership ratings of the generals involved. I've got a Sanada Yukitaka (+150% attack power) and a Tiger of Kai (350% damage). Sanada Yukitaka tends to deal more damage against weak generals with low power and leadership, while Tiger of Kai tends to deal more damage against strong generals with high power and leadership. That's without changing my own generals, and seems to hold regardless of the defense rating of the opponent.


  2. #12
    I have now verified that the level cap is 65. Your castle cannot go above level 65, which means that no other buildings can go above level 65. That means that you cannot forge gear above level 65, nor can your lab or church/temple skills go above level 65. When buildings are at level 65, rather than saying the stats for the next level on the info screen, it just says ---

    Lab and church/temple skills being capped at 65 is pretty much purely theoretical for now, as each level of each skill is going to take something like a week of cooldown. But not being able to forge gear to above level 65 is a considerable limitation. I've already got a lot of gear at level 65, and I'm probably not the only one. For what it's worth, the expected cost to forge a piece of purple gear from level 0 to 65 is about 42 million copper. For a yellow piece of high level gear, it's about 51 million copper.

    On the rebellion event (previously the crusader event), I got 48 soul tickets in 6515 victories, which is about 0.74%. If we assume a 1% drop rate, then that is more than two standard deviations below the expected value, so my previous estimate of 1% was probably too high. I got about as many soul tickets from cashing in souls dropped during the event as getting soul tickets directly.

    I now think that my Sanada Yukitaka/Tiger of Kai comparison above was actually caused by Sanada Yukitaka's "24 Generals" skill, which increases damage to non-cavalry. I think that that was throwing off my comparison and I didn't realize it.

    On the endgame farming drop rates, I've now done opponents 4 through 7 on map 6-4 several hundred times in total. I didn't keep exact counts, but I'm going to estimate that the curse fragment drop rate is around 1% or perhaps a little higher. The two gold ticket drop rate is around 3%. Thus, if you spend 100 koban to get 10 standard rations and burn them all on endgame non-convoy farming, you can expect to get on average about 6 gold tickets or so out of it, in addition to a curse fragment. That makes buying tickets more directly with koban look like a really bad idea unless you're either a whale or care only about the UR drop rate.

    In case you're wondering, Temp and Semaphore are the only players who have cleared the campaigns entirely on my server. Nootaku, Aargaez, Vermillion, Arikromus, Nylem, and Rimuru have also cleared the seventh opponent on 6-4. TruelyNice and zantetsuken are the only other players to ever beat an opponent that can drop curse fragments. It is perhaps not a coincidence that I've just named 10 of the top 11 finishers in the rebellion event, with Aqua-chan as the exception.

  3. Quick question since people in this topic seem pretty knowledgeable about the game. Is arena for veterans only?

    I can only seem to select the top 500 to view/attack, I'm ranked 42000ish. I've only been playing for about a week so I'm nowhere near the strength of a top 500. It would be nice to do something beside campaign, espicially since I'm starting to hit a wall and I'm not having enough coins to level my castle everyday.

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneguyfromwork View Post
    Quick question since people in this topic seem pretty knowledgeable about the game. Is arena for veterans only?

    I can only seem to select the top 500 to view/attack, I'm ranked 42000ish. I've only been playing for about a week so I'm nowhere near the strength of a top 500. It would be nice to do something beside campaign, espicially since I'm starting to hit a wall and I'm not having enough coins to level my castle everyday.
    Arena has both the daily ladder and a weekly tournament. You should participate in both, for different reasons.

    The reasons to participate in the weekly tournament are simple. It costs nothing to enter, but you get 50k copper for participating, plus 100k per match you win. The 50 koban team change fee is if you enter, then later that week decide to change your team. You can enter a completely independent team each week if so inclined. So if you enter, at worst, you get 50k copper for losing your first match. If you're lucky enough to draw an easy opponent or two, you might win more than that.

    As for the daily ladder, you should participate in that, too. The goal of the daily ladder is to win ten matches in which you're the attacker, as this gets you two gold tickets. Winning matches where someone else attacks you don't count toward this total. You can only challenge people within ten ranks of your own, but you can challenge below you as well as above. If you challenge someone above you and win, you trade positions in the rankings.

    The key to winning at ladder matches is to choose easy opponents. If you challenge someone, you get your offense team, while they get their defense team. For most players, their best generals and their best gear is on their offense team. People commonly don't have any gear equipped at all on their defense team, and sometimes only trot out a single general. The ladder screen will show you the icon of the leader of the defense team of possible opponents. The ranking that shows the full top 500 will show you the level of the leader of the defense team. A level below 35 is a sure sign of an easy opponent.

    Ranks 491-500 are volatile, because everyone who isn't ranked can only challenge players in that range. So you'd really like to stay up the top 490 indefinitely. But if you're rank 370 and see that the player who is rank 372 has a level 1 leader on his defense team, you can challenge him ten times in a row, claim your ten wins, claim your two gold tickets, and be done with daily ladder matches for the day.

  5. #15
    Is changing to a Musketeer unit to get a skill bonus of x2.5 DMG useful at all if one has Temple instead of Church, and is it worth to change units to archer to get one extra target but having DMG reduced by 10% ?

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Lady View Post
    Is changing to a Musketeer unit to get a skill bonus of x2.5 DMG useful at all if one has Temple instead of Church, and is it worth to change units to archer to get one extra target but having DMG reduced by 10% ?
    I assume that you're talking about Demon King of the Six Heavens. If so, then the answer is that the general is pretty useless. A zero star UR will get destroyed by a four star SR. Using UR EVO or Universal EVO cards to get Demon King of the Six Heavens to four stars is a massive waste of very scarce resources that would be better used on just about any other UR general.

    It's not a fixed 2.5x damage bonus. It's a small chance at it that relies on having high intelligence, which you won't because the general is zero stars. So the real answer is, it doesn't matter what class you set the general to, as you don't want her on your team.

  7. #17
    In the interest of full disclosure, I should probably admit that I no longer reciprocate with everyone on my friends list who assists me. It's capped at 20 per day, and I do assist 20 people pretty much every day, trying to reciprocate for as many as I can. But most likely as a result of this thread, I seem to be averaging getting assisted by a little over 20 people per day, and that means that I can't assist them all back.

    I do prioritize assisting those who assist me every day or nearly so, such as the two people who have now assisted me for more than 80 consecutive days. (Yes, I keep track of that.) But I can no longer promise to assist back everyone who assists me, which for now means that the people who only assist once or twice per week don't necessarily get assisted back.

  8. #18
    Hi I'm new to the game and I'm a little confused. When you say the classes on the left are for temple and the ones on the right are church do you mean starting from the two blue classes? Or the left side of the red and black classes are temple and the right side of red and black are church?

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by AnimeLuna View Post
    Hi I'm new to the game and I'm a little confused. When you say the classes on the left are for temple and the ones on the right are church do you mean starting from the two blue classes? Or the left side of the red and black classes are temple and the right side of red and black are church?
    The classes that descend from the left side blue class are for temple, the classes descending from the right side class are for church. For example, Calvary: Light Cavalry and all the classes descending from it are for the temple - Heavy Cavalry and the all the classes descending from it are for the church.

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