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Lafate

05-02-2016, 09:17 AM

Hello boys and girls, Bandit Bandit Bandit Bandit Bandit Bandit Female Bandit Bandit Bandit Bandit and did I mention Bandit?

ETA: 3/5/16

Rewards

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/09c4abccfb6d1af3.png
Introducing Imelia the Princess Bandit! Note that is she is a princess and a bandit not a princess of bandits, and before someone ask she isn't some hybrid classwise she is a pure bandit. So that means it is time to get rid of those Conrads, Eunices, and Mortimers... if you were crazy enough to keep them around. However... remember you must get Amelia as soon as possible... or Imelia will be incredibly sad without her Onee-chan.

Souls collected Reward
25 Souls: Princess Bandit Imelia joins the harem!
50 Souls: Increase Skill Level (2/10)
100 Souls: Initial level 10
150 Souls: Increase Skill Level (3/10)
200 Souls: Cost Reduced by 1 (-1)
250 Souls: Increase Skill Level (4/10)
300 Souls: Cost Reduced by 1 (-2)
400 Souls: Increase Skill Level (5/10)
500 Souls: Initial Level 20
600 Souls: Increase Skill Level (6/10)
700 Souls: Cost Reduced by 1 (-3)
800 Souls: Increase Skill Level (7/10)
900 Souls: Initial Level 30
1000 Souls: Increase Skill Level (8/10)
1100 Souls: Cost Reduced by 1 (-4)
1200 Souls: Initial Level 40
1300 Souls: Increase Skill Level (9/10)
1400 Souls: Cost Reduced by 1 (-5)
1500 Souls: Increase Skill Level (10/10)
1600 Souls: Initial Level 50

Extra Reward
45 Souls: Gold Armor
90 Souls: Spirit of Gold
135 Souls: Platinum Armor
180 Souls: Spirit of Gold
225 Souls: Shard of Crystal
270 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
315 Souls: Gold Armor
360 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
405 Souls: Platinum Armor
450 Souls: Spirit of Black
495 Souls: Shard of Crystal
540 Souls: Spirit of Black
585 Souls: Gold Armor
630 Souls: Spirit of Rainbow
675 Souls: Platinum Armor
720 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
765 Souls: Shard of Crystal
810 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
855 Souls: Gold Armor
900 Souls: Spirit of Black
945 Souls: Platinum Armor
990 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
1035 Souls: Shard of Crystal
1080 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
1125 Souls: Gold Armor
1170 Souls: Spirit of Black
1215 Souls: Platinum Armor
1260 Souls: Spirit of Black
1305 Souls: Shard of Crystal
1350 Souls: Spirit of Rainbow
1395 Souls: Gold Armor
1440 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
1485 Souls: Platinum Armor
1530 Souls: Spirit of Platinum
1575 Souls: Shard of Crystal
1620 Souls: Spirit of Black
1665 Souls: Gold Armor
1710 Souls: Spirit of Black
1755 Souls: Platinum Armor
1800 Souls: Spirit of Rainbow

Noted enemy stats

Imelia
Attack type: Physical Melee
HP: 5600 (Princess and the Bandit Group)
Atk: 280 (Princess and the Bandit Group)
Def: 100
MR: 0

Jack Lantern (Small)
Attack type: Magical Melee
HP: 4000
Atk: 40
Def: 60
MR: 20
Note: Ignores Terrain.

Jack Lantern (Large)
Attack type: Magical Melee
HP: 8000
Atk: 80
Def: 130
MR: 20
Note: Ignores Terrain.

Maps

Princess and the Bandit Group

Charisma: 20
Stamina: 1
Experience: 150
Gold at 3☆: 1200
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 3
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 17
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPytTaWiMZA
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/FgvVdX.pngx2http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/cd0983a9e0e1a51f.png
Min/Max Souls: 0-2

Imprisoned Soul

Charisma: 30
Stamina: 2
Experience: 200
Gold at 3☆: 1500
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 22
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYvnqBQR4Xs
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/FgvVdX.pnghttp://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/sVonDtap0.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/209d0e489f1a9bf8.png
Min/Max Souls: 3-4

The City of Evil Spirits

Charisma: 40
Stamina: 4
Experience: 300
Gold at 3☆: 2250
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 44
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6dZb2E4eIw
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/FgvVdX.pngx3http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/sVonDtap0.pngx2http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/4363b2226f3bec33.PNGhttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c17d10071b0a6cce.png
Min/Max Souls: 0-9

Demon of Heavy Artillery X

Charisma: 50
Stamina: 5
Experience: 350
Gold at 3☆: 2700
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 33
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CUht14JQbU
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/FgvVdX.pngx4http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/QlpmvV6o.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/844c4ffb17fa8cb0.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/575582c9bbc6866f.PNG
Min/Max Souls: 0-9

King of the Dead G

Charisma: 100
Stamina: 2
Experience: 200
Gold at 3☆: 1800
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 5
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 93
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSLDPMbPPbs
Drops: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/b5678824b9ebaef1.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/03fd984a550c3efe.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/affec06cfe3f15b4.png
Completion Reward: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c8312011687722f1.png

Erratic Spirit

Charisma: 35
Stamina: 3
Experience: 220
Gold at 3☆: 1650
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 46
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwCZWGE6rYo
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/FgvVdX.pngx3http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/QlpmvV6o.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/316526482b0e91d0.PNGhttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/9a7dcdc58d7dc6cb.PNG
Min/Max Souls: 0-8

Death Corps X

Charisma: 50
Stamina: 5
Experience: 320
Gold at 3☆: 2400
Initial Unit Points: 10
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 61
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_cnmFCrKHw
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/sVonDtap0.pngx2http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/QlpmvV6o.pngx2http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/9460da3d3aa30d33.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/57483c5c0ded1b6e.png
Min/Max Souls: 6-16

Reunion G

Charisma: 60
Stamina: 7
Experience: 380
Gold at 3☆: 3000
Initial Unit Points: 0
Life: 10
Max # of Deployed Units: 8
Number of Enemies: 59
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJsHg3HWQLI
Drops: http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/FgvVdX.pnghttp://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/sVonDtap0.pnghttp://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/02/QlpmvV6o.pngx4
Min/Max Souls: 4-24
Completion Reward: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c8312011687722f1.png

Comments about the event

Well honestly the even looks incredibly easy for a collection event. It is rather off putting and has me worried just a little bit. Especially since we have be known to get harder things. Shall this be Machine Gun Fish 2: Rise of the Pumpkin Death Turrets? who knows! Though in all honesty if you want to max out Imelia run the 60/7 cost map it will give you the most consistent drop rates. If you want to go farm Silvers... I guess go do that... but you better not be using a Conrad!

Anyway... Drop Rates for the Souls.
Princess and the Bandit Group
1 Soul: 60%

Imprisoned Soul
1 Soul: 10%
3 Souls: 100%

The City of Evil Spirits
1 Soul: 55%
3 Souls: 80%

Demon of Heavy Artillery X
1 Soul: 85%
5 Souls: 90%

Erratic Spirit
1 Soul: 85%
5 Souls: 45%

Death Corps X
3 Souls: 100%
5 Souls: 30%

Reunion G
1 Soul: 100%
3 Souls: 100%
5 Souls: 50%

Spotlight Units

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/f758e7bb72369c3d.png
Platinum Pirate Anelia

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/3ced3933fc375d75.png
Platinum Bandit Lyla

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c2c67dc22aada748.png
Platinum Vampire Hutner Elizabeth

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a4c6a666ec874742.png
Gold Archer Bella

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/766046e4f4b68748.png
Gold Avenger Dorothy

New Characters Arriving

Note: This is based off of current JP version stats. We may not get the same if we get a previous version of the units, but they will eventually get to this point.

Bandit Princess Imelia

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/80a6ad250f6573ad.png
HP: 3596
Atk: 808
Def: 328
MR: 0
Block: 1
Cost: 16
Skill: Increase Attack and Defense by 100% for 30s| HP reduced by 50% after skill end| WT: 40; CT: 80
Ability: -
Awakened Skill: Increase Attack and Defense by 130% for 45s| HP reduced by 70% after skill end| WT: 45; CT: 90
Awakened Ability: By being on the team Imelia increases the health of all bandits by 10%

Pirate Princess Anelia

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/116a6a28b60d0b50.jpg
HP: 1766
Atk: 720
Def: 259
MR: 0
Range: 300
Cost: 14
Skill: Increase attack by 30% for 20s| Attack up to five enemies at once| Attack becomes magic based| WT: 30; CT: 60
Ability: -
Awakened Skill: Increase attack by 50% for 20s| Attack up to three enemies at once| Attack becomes magic based| Attack Speed Increase| WT: 20; CT: 40
Awakened Ability: By being on the team Anelia increase the attack of all pirates by 7%

Hunter Bella

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/f84d22b37a88cb95.png
HP: 1481
Atk: 518
Def:172
MR: 0
Range: 260
Cost: 11
Skill: Increase range by 70% for 25s| WT: 20; CT: 30
Ability: -
Awakened Skill: Increase range by 80% for 30s| Attack Speed Increase| WT: 23.3; CT: 35
Awakened Ability: Has a chance to instantly kill her target.

Earth Fairy Dorothy

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/43814d8f8f70ba0c.png
HP: 2649
Atk: 608
Def: 326
MR: 0
Block: 1
Cost: 15
Skill: During skill if unit would be killed it instead brought to 50% of the units maximum HP| Can only be triggered once per skill use| WT: 56.7; CT: 85
Ability: -
Awakened Skill: During skill if unit would be killed it instead brought to 50% of the units maximum HP| Can only be triggered once per skill use| Ability now has a 30% chance to happen| WT: 63.3; CT: 95
Awakened Ability: 20% chance for an attack to deal damage as if the unit had 80% more attack.

Cat Witch Nenya

http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/82e3d30257b51017.png
HP: 897
Atk: 367
Def: 70
MR: 10
Range: 210
Cost: 9
Skill: 30% Attack increase and 15% Range increase for 60s| WT: 60; CT: 60
Ability: -

Ninja Kagerou

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a87ee5fb5dd8ae40.png
HP: 1090
Atk: 300
Def: 169
MR: 0
Block: 1 (200)
Cost: 12
Skill: For 20 seconds she has a 30% chance to dodge physical attacks. In addition for the duration she has a chance to instantly kill the target she is attacking. 40 sec WT, 40 sec CT.
Ability: -

Apprentice Cavalry Mischa

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/dd67dee232f265e6.PNG
HP: 1236
Atk: 496
Def: 277
MR: 10
Block: 1
Cost: 8
Skill: Unit recovers 30% of maximum HP| WT: 20; CT: 20
Ability: -

New Classes Being Introduced

Nothing this time guys.

Talith

05-02-2016, 09:20 AM

I heard something about a Bandit? A princess? Waifu material?

Unregistered

05-02-2016, 09:26 AM

new units introduced is a lot of optimism

Ramazan

05-02-2016, 09:32 AM

Second time nenya coming to us :D I have seen that dorothy before... Hitsuji maybe? And looks a bit similar to strawberry in fkg too.

soranokira

05-02-2016, 09:51 AM

I heard something about a Bandit? A princess? Waifu material?

sister sandwich with the princess sisters anelia and imelia is the best.

ZeroZet

05-02-2016, 10:35 AM

*Tosses Lafate another crate of crystals for a bulk shipment of torches and pitchforks*
So, let's play the game of "Guess who will replace two new gold premium units", shall we? XD ... T_T
Also, soooooo looking forward to Not-Nenya, Not-Mischa and Not-Kagero...

Arkinum

05-02-2016, 10:49 AM

I'm going to take this opportunity to get some silver archers.

As for the princess, I'm probably going to stop at 300-400 souls...

Talith

05-02-2016, 10:56 AM

There doesn't seem to be any silver archers though. I'd love to get my hands on some (15+) as well.

ZeroZet

05-02-2016, 10:57 AM

As for the princess, I'm probably going to stop at 300-400 souls...She's a bandit, not a princess. Well, not anymore) So, while her weapon does bear unique name and mythical properties, its attacks are physical in nature, rather than magical of Princess-princesses' legendary swords.

Arkinum

05-02-2016, 11:04 AM

There doesn't seem to be any silver archers though. I'd love to get my hands on some (15+) as well.

The City of Evil Spirits, unless I'm seeing the rewards list wrong 0_o

And ya, I probably should have said "princess" instead of princess.

Talith

05-02-2016, 11:12 AM

I was mistaken. I was looking for Soma and Daniela and forgot about Lauren. Hmm, I really should consider spending some time on City of Evil Spirits then.

Buster Wolf

05-02-2016, 11:42 AM

If I didn't already have Lyla (who's next on my awaken list) I'd probably go all out to get this character like I did with Claudia.

Tenhou

05-02-2016, 12:00 PM

Only got Cellia so it's quite given that i'll aim for this one. I'm tired of silver farming so i'll just nab the best map and get started.

lolix

05-02-2016, 12:01 PM

meh , i was already close to 50 scs and was aiming for a new stamp card. Might as well get a good duelist (at least on my second account) and expand my baracks with the leftovers i guess.

Ramazan

05-02-2016, 01:03 PM

isnt it'd be good if you spend at least 100 sc to get deluxe stamp card? It gives you 5 extra sc. Think like this: you spend sc 50-50 and get 2 months of special stamp card with the same amount of sc that normal stamp card offers= no profit for sc. And you spend 50+50=100 sc which gives 2x sc each time which makes total 10 which is 1 more sc at a time regarding spent sc. You can say that spending 50-50 gives more luxury items, but those items are easier to get more than sc.

lolix

05-02-2016, 01:33 PM

the problem is the amount of time its required to raise 50 scs as a free player , and the timing of your needs. For example , it just happens that i need at this time to start expanding my baracks , becasue i can't hadle the amount of fodder (for awakening ) and spirits and general fodder , without combining as soon as i get them...which is obvious not that good (i'd preffer to keep some fodders and some spirits for a later time). It also happens that i actually need a good duelist on 1 of my accounts , and a barbarian with a skill that gives 100% attack and 100% defense on top of their already high base hp looks like a pretty good prospect.

Tenhou

05-02-2016, 01:57 PM

Yeah, it can be rather difficult to time that "wonderful deluxe" together with your needs.

Ramazan

05-02-2016, 03:40 PM

Yeah, it can be rather difficult to time that "wonderful deluxe" together with your needs.

5sc is 5sc. You wont get any except from events and stamp card which makes max ~25 a month.

Tenhou

05-02-2016, 04:14 PM

5sc is 5sc. You wont get any except from events and stamp card which makes max ~25 a month.

Indeed, and coupled with some events actually asking you to spend SC it gets quite annoying for free players to try to get up to that deluxe card :P

Somewhat easier on DMM because they throw events after one another PLUS a fair deal of apology SC all the time so you get roughly 50+ SC a month.

Kamahari Akuma

05-02-2016, 04:23 PM

*Checks Imelia off the Great Aigis Wishlist*

Well with Imelia on the horizon that means I can finally have her wishlist seat taken by someone else.

Not to mention the bedroom with her name on it will finally see use...

However... remember you must get Amelia as soon as possible... or Imelia will be incredibly sad without her Onee-chan.

I want to Lafate, but my want for close to perfect as possible Imelia is tearing me apart! D:

Blaxer

05-02-2016, 06:16 PM

Finally back to my laptop, she looks cute, i care for nothing more, will spend SC to max her if needed besides i don't have female bandits...

lolix

05-02-2016, 07:03 PM

i agree , she looks cute , but i will prob max her to use her as a duelist first and foremost. I actually liked rita as well. She looked badass , but since i already had archers , i didn't even raised her aff for the scenes.

Lafate

05-02-2016, 07:25 PM

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13124652_232048400495912_3713913804394171720_n.jpg ?oh=d37fb70cada28500a6ad6186c04247f9&oe=57A75BA4

From the lovely Elf-chan of the facebook group.

switch

05-02-2016, 08:01 PM

So she has duo scenes or is that the pirate who has the duo scenes?

Blaxer

05-02-2016, 08:01 PM

kayfabe

05-02-2016, 08:14 PM

This is the first event unit in a while that has tempted me to use crystals and I'd appreciate second opinions.

The case against Imelia:
I already have Syb-chan and Thetis putting in work as my every day duelists and I have Bernice for tanking duties along with AW-Betty and an imperfect Claudia as my backup/situational duelists.

The case for Imelia:
I started too late to get my hands on Karma or Anya. In terms sheer effective health Imelia would actually be my meatiest unit during her skill duration. A tag team of Conrad and Imelia could be a fun long term project, especially if I nab a Lyla during the spotlight en route to grabbing a premium stamp card.

Blaxer

05-02-2016, 08:23 PM

This is the first event unit in a while I've been tempted to use crystals and I'd appreciate second opinions.

The case against Imelia:
I already have Syb-chan and Thetis putting in work as my every day duelists and I have Bernice for tanking duties along with AW-Betty and an imperfect Claudia as my backup/situational duelists.

The case for Imelia:
I started too late to get my hands on Karma or Anya. In terms sheer effective health Imelia would actually be my meatiest unit during her skill duration. A tag team of Conrad and Imelia could be a fun long term project, especially if I nab a Lyla during the spotlight en route to grabbing a premium stamp card.

As someone that have Anya Karma Sybilla and Claudia i really crave physicall duelists, i mean, Rowana has that nice HP recovery skill but she's kinda meh overall

And since Conrad-sama is the only muscle i have, i will totally aim for maxing her

switch

05-02-2016, 08:29 PM

looking at the last map as the main duelist tanking those god awful liches ehhhh do i wanna us lilla or thetis? or even lyla maybe?

Lafate

05-02-2016, 08:45 PM

Conrad-sama

BLASPHEMER!

namhoang909

05-03-2016, 03:01 AM

what is possible unit to replace Khuri in Reunion G, i don't have vampire hunter

switch

05-03-2016, 04:29 AM

I get how you're meant to spend SC to get the perfect unit. But I mean come on can't even get 1600 with perfect drops and using the SC from the maps

Lafate

05-03-2016, 04:50 AM

I get how you're meant to spend SC to get the perfect unit. But I mean come on can't even get 1600 with perfect drops and using the SC from the maps

You aren't suppose to. That isn't how collection works. That is how farm works.

switch

05-03-2016, 05:16 AM

Fair enough aha so can anyone offer replacement units for the last map. For Claudia and the VH. (Other guy asking)

Lafate

05-03-2016, 05:24 AM

Fair enough aha so can anyone offer replacement units for the last map. For Claudia and the VH. (Other guy asking)

I honestly don't know about that without any sort of testing.

Also...

[05:22 AM] Lafate : HOLY HELL
[05:22 AM] Lafate : THIS BASTARD ATTACKED ON HALLOWEEN!
[05:22 AM] Lafate : EVERYONE TO ARMS WE ARE GOING TO BATTLE!

JMich

05-03-2016, 05:33 AM

Fair enough aha so can anyone offer replacement units for the last map. For Claudia and the VH. (Other guy asking)

Disclaimer: Haven't gotten there yet, so just my thoughts on it.
For Claudia, any high health duelist should be able to do it, though MR would also help. Not sure if the true damage is needed or not.
For Khuri, most physical ranged ones should be good as replacements, but Khuri is a unit worth leveling (and min costing too).

Grimmiq

05-03-2016, 05:39 AM

Calliope subbed in for Nenya again. Guessing no new units again.

switch

05-03-2016, 05:40 AM

Other then the lack of archers I have 2 bashira to combine into the main one.. Nutaku like to poke fun at me for trying to get nanaly the bastards giving me bashiras ehh.. Almost have a (vh) bashira aha also is bashira worth awakening ?

Blaxer

05-03-2016, 06:00 AM

Omg i just can't stop seeing crossover everywhere lol

Someone needs to shop her dialog to "farewell ashen one" / "touch the darkness inside me" i can't breath hahahaha

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/03/DhCWv3.png

switch

05-03-2016, 06:13 AM

No not soul farming... Anything but that

Lafate

05-03-2016, 07:05 AM

Well event cleared and I'm currently at 106 Souls.

switch

05-03-2016, 07:17 AM

Who did you use as the duelist?

denate

05-03-2016, 07:23 AM

Is the most stamina used stage worth to farm the souls ?

soranokira

05-03-2016, 07:26 AM

not sure why you're asking lafate when he's probably using a unit you dont have considering he's a veteran from close to the beginning of nutaku aigis days.

anyway managed up till the 50/5 map (not inclusive) for the time being. 2* the 100/2 map as well with full kills and drops but momiji died because I didnt give her enough hp =( oh well.

edit: also, 2 souls/sta for 60/7 map, 1.8 souls/sta for 2nd best map, and everything else is around 1.6~1.7 more or less (except 2nd and earlier maps of course)

switch

05-03-2016, 07:40 AM

I may or may not have the unit but I can always use something close

denate

05-03-2016, 07:41 AM

Talith

05-03-2016, 08:02 AM

So far so good. Got a silver archer on my single try of the map and progressing steadily. Waiting 35 more mins before stoning for stamina. Heavily considering just running Capital of Evil Spirits for silver archers while grinding out souls. I need at least 8 but it would be nice to have a buffer as I'll definitely need more later.

Unregistered

05-03-2016, 08:14 AM

http://i.imgur.com/ykCWkZz.png

maybe too close...

switch

05-03-2016, 08:19 AM

More like pro timing ;)

Lafate

05-03-2016, 08:22 AM

Who did you use as the duelist?

My Duelist for this event were Sherry, Clissa, Rowanna, and to a smaller extent the Prince.

Talith

05-03-2016, 08:50 AM

Just one shot cleared reunion G. MVPs include Solano + Odette on wave control, Odette active as a security blanket, and Awoken Horace (with 3 healers) tanking the Liches from start to finish.

BigLittleBitties

05-03-2016, 09:25 AM

holy **** that lich spam in Reunion G. I don't know if I can handle it even with my team atm, we just get run over by the Lich and can't set up fast enough.

I do have an Elizabeth, but she's lv 1 so it's like... :(

1179

switch

05-03-2016, 09:32 AM

Just pulled cellia and anelia.. Gg that pirate buff and my minevra.. Only took 40sc as well was summoning for stamp card aha gg.. 10 SC left for the event... Legit did a 5 minute happy dance

Sakob

05-03-2016, 10:23 AM

Just pulled cellia and anelia.. Gg that pirate buff and my minevra.. Only took 40sc as well was summoning for stamp card aha gg.. 10 SC left for the event... Legit did a 5 minute happy dance

I've pulled:
2 Kojuros (Back to back - blah).
Lyla (lol, the unit this event basically replaces... woo).
Minerva (Excited for a pirate, sad it was the wrong one).

I'm hunting for Adele or Anelia (Or both).

Adele for the 10% HP... to go with my only other black, Aisha. (Super HP bonuses for the win?).
Anelia because damn she looks awesome... (and now I have a Minerva for her to buff!).

I know I have Aisha so I really have no right to complain, but unggggh!

Anyone use Minerva a lot? she good for much? I don't know how good quick draw is really, constantly increasing a pirates atk speed seems really strong as does the 1.7 atk multiplier on her skill.

kayfabe

05-03-2016, 10:31 AM

The only time Minerva is the "wrong" pirate is if you're sleepwalking your way through Thursday dailies.

This is less advice and more of a brag, but man, a Sophie+Elizabeth tag team cuts through pumpkin conga lines like thermite through butter.

switch

05-03-2016, 10:32 AM

minerva is a god i use her every map lol.. max skill i pull like 1.4k per shot and it also can insta kill, minerva. cuts through pumpkin conga like i blink and its gone

Talith

05-03-2016, 10:34 AM

Alright, full one shot cleared all event levels. Awoken Horace was a god damned champ when it came to dealing with Liches, never had to withdraw her once she was deployed. Had her hold the line at the northern entrance of King of the Dead G with only Iris healing her and Saki mowing down the jack-o-lanterns. Claudia held the line to the west against the regular liches. She is going to need her awakening if she wants to duel the higher liches.

switch

05-03-2016, 11:34 AM

just like to point out for people who maybe cant do the G maps artillery x, according to wiki is 85% for the 1 souls and 90% for the 5, so unless unlucky should almost always get 9, plus drops plat armor at 10% for all you people with spirits, while army of the dead the 5 souls are only 30% drop

Blaxer

05-03-2016, 04:04 PM

Can someone confirm whether or not this kind of maps have 100% drop rate for the first clear?
Every event where there's one i always get all drops the first time
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/03/7tzNFqMDdh.png

CharlesRJC

05-03-2016, 04:07 PM

Unregistered

05-03-2016, 05:48 PM

If I'm reading the wiki correctly and my math is right, then suggesting that the people who cant do Reunion G should farm Artillery Monsters X over Army of the Dead X for souls is poor advice. You're less than likely (~46%) to hit all 9 souls per run in Artillery. You're correct that the 5 soul drop in Army is only 30% as opposed to 90%, but they're two of them while also guaranteeing 6 souls at 100% per run for a potential maximum of 16 in a single run. Assuming you want the most possible souls without having a team that can farm Reunion G, you should be putting all of your stamina into Army of the Dead X. If you can do Reunion G then its the best option for soul farming assuming you don't need silvers. This information is all available on the wiki as well.

TLDR: Read the wiki before helping out. Army > Artillery

switch

05-03-2016, 06:30 PM

artillery seems easier to do then army some people might not be able to do it, and some people much like mean have some very bad rng on maps. 30% to me means ill maybe get 1. never get 2. fuck i barely ever get 2 rubys on phalax 2 and thats 40% some people might be happy with a almost 100% 9 souls and maybe some plat armors if they lucky, was just point out the drop rates and that artillary can drop plat armors never told them artillery over army. the per sta difference is .22 now lets say they are only running as a free player with max map timers wasting no stam. the difference is 70 souls over the 2 weeks. if they hit the avg for army souls they can get another unit target. they get any less then avg by even .02 and miss the unit target and have 2-3 silver pirates instead of maybe 2-3 extra plat armors. which if they have spirits could boost so they can do better for next event. its up to them really im not forcing them to do any map. was just pointing out they might be able to do artillery x instead of the even lesser maps since i didnt find the map that hard and even picked up a plat armor

Unregistered

05-03-2016, 07:58 PM

I agree Artillery is an easier map than Army. I was mainly looking towards your last point which made it seem like Artillery was a better bet than Army because 30% drop when it just isn't. I'd even say plat armor and silver valk is a worse side drop than silver soldiers and pirates, from a relaively new player perspective, but that's also besides the point. RNG though is just that, RNG.

Grimmiq

05-03-2016, 10:00 PM

Tempted to just farm Artillery, the Lich rush at the end of Reunion kicked my ass.. I can do Army of the Dead X, but I've already gotten 2 exp armours from Artillery, so even if it slows me down a little, those might make it more worth it to me. I doubt I'll get the 1400 needed for max CR anyway.

I already have 4 silver pirates and 9 silver soldiers (Have 12, but want to keep a Phyllis, Rosalie and Assal for my collection).

lolix

05-03-2016, 11:11 PM

Sakob

05-03-2016, 11:19 PM

actually , the first time i've done the map , i did i blindly so i got surpised by the lich rush. after looking at lafate's guide tho , it really doesn't seem as bad. Any plat princes at 50+ level should be able to do it. Don't try other duelists other then princesses (i guess you could use a magic fencer during skill usage , but not sure how effective that will be) becasue the lich king has quite a bit of armor (tried celia first time around) , and if u don't kill the king fast enough , u're in trouble.

Other then that , u will need 3 healers , so there is that if you're a newer player.

I was able to handle the lich rush with a level 60 gold princess (themis). Though I do have Aisha awakened, so she has +14% HP. But i'm not sure she'd have died even without that buff. So it really shouldn't be that bad... you definitely need to place one of the healers AFTER you drop your duelist though, so that they soak some damage instead of them all piling onto your duelist.

switch

05-04-2016, 12:23 AM

Unregistered

05-04-2016, 12:51 AM

Interestingly just ran into the same problem with Army of the Dead X. 11 souls dropped and earned a plat armor gift, click through mission like normal, go to collect gift and nothing there. Check my soul count and says 2 souls to go until plat armor. Not sure what my count was before but has to be the same, since it told me I just earned an armor but need only two more to earn one. Only got on for one run before bed anyway, will see what it's like in the morning.

soranokira

05-04-2016, 01:08 AM

be careful people just did 60/7 map got 14 souls says i got spirit of gold in rewards. then i get neither the spirit of gold or the 14 souls. i clearly waited for all the drops to show on map n what not. and just clicked on the game. didnt close the game or anything

the in-game one has an error in that it might inform you about getting a reward early even though you haven't reached the amount to obtain the reward. I believe that threshold is 5 souls ahead of the actual. also, you can know whether you get a reward or not by checking your no. of souls, since you get something every 45 souls pretty much.

switch

05-04-2016, 01:54 AM

yeah it didnt give me the 14 souls i earned.

Eab1990

05-04-2016, 08:02 AM

the in-game one has an error in that it might inform you about getting a reward early even though you haven't reached the amount to obtain the reward. I believe that threshold is 5 souls ahead of the actual. also, you can know whether you get a reward or not by checking your no. of souls, since you get something every 45 souls pretty much.

This. Claudia's event had the same issue when I got notices but didn't always get rewards until one more run.

Kyanon

05-04-2016, 09:35 AM

That moment when you were able to 2-stars Reunion G on your first try, but now, I just can't do it no matter what... Mortimer dies everytime, and even with Iris + Fedora + Alissa, plus Sasha's skill up, damages are still too much for him... I refered to key kii's vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmmseCFTWbo&list=PL-vcI6413BKVDLibWa4tt1UIMiy7oXeZ6&index=9), with only a few changes : Sasha instead of Valerie (for more damages + skill) and prince put on the field only after Alyssa and Dorca, cause else I don't have enough Unit Points, but it still don't work... Has anyone an idea or is it as far as I can go without AWed unit ?

soranokira

05-04-2016, 09:41 AM

ZeroZet

05-04-2016, 10:17 AM

Try the strategy from Lafate's collection of videos i the first post of a thread. I find it easier to pull off.

CharlesRJC

05-04-2016, 11:17 AM

Gotta go with perfect unit for first time in nutaku item collection event history (my Karma lacks 1 CR and Len 2). Maps seem to be quite easy. Another thing I love is that all rainbows I have gained so far during this event successfully gave me a skillup. Sweet stuff.

Kyanon

05-04-2016, 12:42 PM

Try the strategy from Lafate's collection of videos i the first post of a thread. I find it easier to pull off.

Thanks a lot for this advice, was able to 3-star it for the first time, but it's still quite close, due to the fact I don't have a mincosted Aria to help. Had to swap her with Katie, and use Spica instead of the awakened gold archer used in the vid, so quite close with my Unit Points, but seems doable ! I'll try a few more time this map to see if I can farm it or if I'll have to go with Army of the Dead.

switch

05-04-2016, 01:45 PM

question. demon crystals or event.. hmmm

Kamahari Akuma

05-04-2016, 02:18 PM

That moment when you have 10 SCs and then burn them all on premium summs and all you get is a silver and Julian. :(

Granted the silver was a rogue but I'm rolling in them right now after Rita's event, and atleast Julian will save me having to make a CCed solider for AW fodder.

Ramazan

05-04-2016, 02:50 PM

Looking for a king of the dead guide which doesnt include 2 gold soldiers (only katie) and include mostly silver-gold-maybe some plat units. Checked recent youtube videos but i saw only a man did it with black units. Anybody got one?

Btw, thanks lafate for the guide, unlike others says as the maps are easy, couldnt one-shot X and G maps. Well this doesnt make them hard too anyway :P

JMich

05-04-2016, 04:03 PM

Looking for a king of the dead guide which doesnt include 2 gold soldiers (only katie) and include mostly silver-gold-maybe some plat units. Checked recent youtube videos but i saw only a man did it with black units. Anybody got one?

I encountered one that used a non-cc Phyllis as the second soldier, purely for UP generation. Will have to look a bit more for it, but I think it was the one from Draa. Let me look for it a bit and I'll come back.

Edit: Draa it was. Here it is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOKsOiV-fao).

YoxalLoyal

05-04-2016, 05:19 PM

Not really spending SCs for this event (for the first time), so I'm at 60 souls. Been trying to 3* the 100/2 and only got 2* atm.

Did some premium summons today for both Nutaku and DMM Aigis and...

Pulled nothing but silvers (2 rogues though) at Nutaku and Anelia at DMM.

Well, Imelia is really going to miss her onee-chan since they're at different versions of Aigis. XD

http://i.imgur.com/jj3M533l.png

lolix

05-04-2016, 07:36 PM

@ramazan - you can literally do it with just 1 soldier tho. You just need to block the bottom (the spot phylis blocks in lafate's video) and place the prince faster. You don't need the 2 soldiers for blovk , nor do you have that much need for 2 up generators (sure , having up early helps , but the map is not so tight on up that you need 2).

At least i 3stared it with just 1 soldier..

Pyonification

05-04-2016, 07:37 PM

Edit: Draa it was. Here it is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOKsOiV-fao).
Off topic but: Easily the worst quality of Face of Face I've ever heard.

switch

05-05-2016, 01:03 AM

gotta love always getting below the avg souls.. 2 times 19 souls and 6 times 9 souls... ehh

Sincronic

05-05-2016, 02:37 AM

gotta love always getting below the avg souls.. 2 times 19 souls and 6 times 9 souls... ehh

I got 4 souls twice on god map, currently at 153 <_<

slyyr

05-05-2016, 06:39 AM

I have managed to 3 star both X missions but I'm not going to bother going after the G level ones. I don't feel I'm ready yet.

I want to farm for Archers and Bandits (Spica is hungry to devour Laurens and/or Awaken) so thats my focus.

So far I have 85 Citizens' Souls, 2 Eunices, 1 Calliope and 1 Lauren from the event. .

lacus

05-05-2016, 08:45 AM

RNG though is just that, RNG.

To be fair, the more extreme drop rates (close to 0 or 1) do tend to give you more consistent results, which may be something worth considering when the averages are similar. RNG still relies on statistics and there are time where you care about more than just averages.

switch

05-05-2016, 03:42 PM

So do people aim for min costed or skill lvl 10?

Talith

05-05-2016, 04:48 PM

Technically you can max skill her later with faeries but that's probably more expensive than just collecting your way there.

Kamahari Akuma

05-05-2016, 05:11 PM

If anything, after burning my 10 SCs, I'm just aiming for maybe near 700. It would get her UP equal to that of an un-CRed Conrad and get some decent skill investment in.

Minimum goal is around 300 though in case the 3 SCs we get over the course of the event due to the stamp calendar aren't enough for my dream of 700.

Blaxer

05-05-2016, 05:25 PM

Oh man i want this unit min-maxed so fucking much but i just remembered i have a 6 day trip starting next Friday so i will miss a lot of days worth of souls :'(

Now i'm determined to burn my SC so i can get a decent unit still... sigh...

switch

05-05-2016, 06:12 PM

I'm not sure if I wanna max her still.. As I have all other bandits lol, tho I can see Celia and imelia as a wicked combo

Sincronic

05-05-2016, 07:31 PM

i just remembered i have a 6 day trip starting next Friday so i will miss a lot of days worth of souls :'(

Perhaps ask a friend to do it for you? :/ Just tell him/her where to put which units, when to use skills and all good ^^

switch

05-05-2016, 07:41 PM

namhoang909

05-06-2016, 03:06 AM

Uhhh be careful with that if the friend buys SC I hear people can get their account banned or something. also anyone else think that 1 sp crystal for a reward is just a slap in the face? like seriously just 1 lol need 5 just to get a silver at best.. rather demon crystals or like at least 10 sp crystals. just 1 is a joke

not even pay off for 1 unit ranged from iron to silver
btw i found this few day ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuQaWWreoT4 thing is: i am going to use Shao 50cc50 in Daniella spot and gold mage instead of cannoneer, however i do not have a black healer, my best one is AW Iris 34, can she handle these lich because the units in video clip have lower level but if nutaku boost pumkin or lich, then i am screwed.

according to video, i'll place Alissa 50cc50 100% in Iris spot, Dorca in Alissa spot, Iris in black healer spot, Fedora 50cc34 100% in Dorca spot, what do you guys think?

soranokira

05-06-2016, 03:23 AM

...wait, why are you using that video instead of the one lafate posted, which is easier? if you're afraid of VH, you can replace the vampire hunter with bashira.

namhoang909

05-06-2016, 04:47 AM

i don't have both Vampire hunter and Bashira, the archer can shoot multi arrow in my team is Stray but he is not AW, strongest archer i have is Spica AW 60

soranokira

05-06-2016, 05:30 AM

i don't have both Vampire hunter and Bashira, the archer can shoot multi arrow in my team is Stray but he is not AW, strongest archer i have is Spica AW 60

you can try doing it with stray even if he's only CC60.
you also need to realize that stray's actual dps is probably worse after AW.

namhoang909

05-06-2016, 06:02 AM

you can try doing it with stray even if he's only CC60.
you also need to realize that stray's actual dps is probably worse after AW.

how about using spica AW60 instead Stray is supposed to be stronger after AW why he becomes worse

soranokira

05-06-2016, 06:13 AM

how about using spica AW60 instead Stray is supposed to be stronger after AW why he becomes worse

you need 2 archers. I meant using spica and stray >_>
stray dps gets weaker after AW because he gets longer range but slower attack speed iirc. this is why you need to do your research beforehand and understand your units.

namhoang909

05-06-2016, 06:50 AM

you need 2 archers. I meant using spica and stray >_>
stray dps gets weaker after AW because he gets longer range but slower attack speed iirc. this is why you need to do your research beforehand and understand your units.

in fact i get a little trouble dealing with all gems collect except for the herculean, additionally after previous event i tend to AW Rita or Shao first and 3 archers are quite enough to all lv up thing
so i will place katie then spica and hopefully she can clear first wave or at least no unit gets killed last time i tried with spica AW55 2 pumpkin got to katie and she's gone

CharlesRJC

05-06-2016, 07:08 AM

I use 40AW lv Len instead of VH. Another possibility is placing a ninja, my 50AW Saki wrecks those pumpkins and skeles so badly she probably could handle it even without Spica

Ramazan

05-06-2016, 07:19 AM

I use 40AW lv Len instead of VH. Another possibility is placing a ninja, my 50AW Saki wrecks those pumpkins and skeles so badly she probably could handle it even without Spica

And some people still says saki is useless, not worthy etc...

soranokira

05-06-2016, 08:48 AM

in fact i get a little trouble dealing with all gems collect except for the herculean, additionally after previous event i tend to AW Rita or Shao first and 3 archers are quite enough to all lv up thing
so i will place katie then spica and hopefully she can clear first wave or at least no unit gets killed last time i tried with spica AW55 2 pumpkin got to katie and she's gone

you can let katie survive by placing her behind imelia, then activate anelia skill when the middle pumpkins get near. that is why I mentioned to follow the guide lafate used. I guess everyone fell in love with poortroopers/keykii and can only use their videos w/o checking other videos.

lolix

05-06-2016, 08:54 AM

And some people still says saki is useless, not worthy etc...

and said people are right. You realize that he invested 300 dcs just to get her , raised her up (used 3 silvers to cc her + a crapload of experience to max a black unit) , and after that he awakened her (so...what , 100 more dcs , 6 more silvers + orbs + gold) + even more experience, when he could have simply used an archer that doesn't need too tank them either.

For example i had great results using bashira (non awakened) during her skill usage. Actually every archer that can shot multiple arrows (or even a vh) can do it without it having to be awaken.....and they cost less to deploy either.

Now don't get me wrong. Saki has her uses , but this event is hardly one of them. She is usefull for some maps , but for everything that has ranged slots avaible , she's not that great. She's really good when you really really need a ranged on a meele slot

Eab1990

05-06-2016, 09:13 AM

Kamahari Akuma

05-06-2016, 10:11 AM

Eab1990

05-06-2016, 10:32 AM

Azami? Don't you mean "Saki skill fodder"? :P

Precisely.

Unregistered

05-06-2016, 12:12 PM

sigh
3 runs in a row 4 soul drop only
that nullifies my early great runs
i need some assurance
reunion g only
prince lvl163 charisma 390 stam 16
35 sc
497 souls goal 1500
ill skip all dailies in favor of event
how many sc i might consume to reach it
how many [what if] i dont skip the armor daily

thx

lolix

05-06-2016, 12:17 PM

Saki is good on King of the Dead G because of two long lines of pumpkins overlapping with the top-right ranged spot and your lightning rod against the lich king.

As usual, lolix has no concept of what the word "useless" means. Just because you need more upkeep on her doesn't mean she can't be useful. "Wasteful" would be a more legitimate term, but there are worse things to waste resources on. Like Azami.

Hina would be worth leveling regardless, though.

to be fair i said from the start that she has her uses , but let's be honest , u don't need her (especially the awakened version of her) to finish this event. And if u can do the same map with a cheaper unit , why the hell is she even in your team instead of a reserve healer/duelist/archer/whatever ?

Literally the only maps where you need ninjas are the maps that have limited ranged slots , and u really need ranged dps. Or some sort of mobs where you might want ranged assasination , but other then that , i don't see many uses for saki. My saki (cc80 , maxed , not aw) has literally seen the main team 3-4 times....and half of those were just to test her.

AGAIN , I REPEAT MYSELF , saki has her usage , and she is not a complete waste of resources , but she shouldn't be a priority unit , and aquired only if you have extra resources. I for one , still didn't gotten a saki for my second acount , because on my first 1, i found her useless.

Eab1990

05-06-2016, 01:09 PM

to be fair i said from the start that she has her uses , but let's be honest , u don't need her (especially the awakened version of her) to finish this event. And if u can do the same map with a cheaper unit , why the hell is she even in your team instead of a reserve healer/duelist/archer/whatever ?

Literally the only maps where you need ninjas are the maps that have limited ranged slots , and u really need ranged dps. Or some sort of mobs where you might want ranged assasination , but other then that , i don't see many uses for saki. My saki (cc80 , maxed , not aw) has literally seen the main team 3-4 times....and half of those were just to test her.

AGAIN , I REPEAT MYSELF , saki has her usage , and she is not a complete waste of resources , but she shouldn't be a priority unit , and aquired only if you have extra resources. I for one , still didn't gotten a saki for my second acount , because on my first 1, i found her useless.

If you actually took the time to pay the fuck attention to what I'm saying, the main issue I have is with your terminology (and your inherent dislike for ninjas, apparently). I don't give two shits about your opinion on the unit.

The fact is, if there are situations where she can be useful, she is by definition NOT USELESS, and your constant need to discourage people from using her is blatant disregard of how there's more than one way to play the damn game.

Though even when you're downplaying her strengths, you still manage to be wrong. It's amusing how you act like we haven't had several maps that had limited ranged slots for months now. There were maps with no more than three ranged slots as far back as Solano's event. You gonna tell me someone like Saki wasn't worth having around for those maps?

soranokira

05-06-2016, 08:45 PM

kayfabe

05-06-2016, 08:45 PM

People need to chill. I've disagreed with lolix on many occasions and even I think this current tangent is hardly worth an argument. In the context of being a direct response to what Ramazan said I don't even think that lolix's comment was particularly unreasonable. We're essentially flipping out because someone made a qualified objection to a post that equated "Unworthy" with "Useless." That's not an insane distinction to be talking about since saying Saki is a useful but expensive luxury pick is quite a bit different from saying she is outright useless. Ya'll got off-the-cuff statements on both sides and there's no need to get salty over it.

lolix

05-06-2016, 11:57 PM

the thing is , i don't even have a dislike for ninjas. I actually like more diverse roles for melee slots. The issues with them (and especially saki > on which I DO have a dislike) is that she costs a lot to deploy and she costs a lot to aquire. Once deployed , she is good statwise , but not worth the DCs in my opinion. As soroano said , you can even use a fencer even if it has less dps (well , she can act like a secondary duelist/pseudoprincess for a while for stronger bosses , which is better IMO then a dodge tank) , what's the point of using so many DCs for saki ? I mean , if ninjas were a bit cheaper to deploy , saki might be quite better

Yes , as kayfabe said , she's a luxury pick , and as eab said , she is not dowright useless. That being said , nobody can deny that she can be replaced on most maps , and it's not really a priority for most of us.

soranokira

05-07-2016, 12:11 AM

this is why dmm players don't like to read nutaku players discussion and comments. lack of research and shortsightedness.

lolix

05-07-2016, 12:22 AM

this is why dmm players don't like to read nutaku players discussion and comments. lack of research and shortsightedness.

Issue being that we're talking about curent our units. Even dmm can't speculate about what new balance patches they will get or how their units will change. As we all know , hindsight is 20/20.

The problem with nutaku tho , is that balance changes and new upgrades that are avaible to dmm don't happen as often here , so it might take a while till we get them. What does that mean ? It means that making an investment without knowing when it will make a profit is generally not a great ideea.

That being said , is DMM saki a groundbreaking unit that's worth more then awakening your core team ? Doubt it . Even there , she's a luxury pick , and i'm guessing she's even less of a priority seeing as they actually rotate the trading post , and there will always be stuff to buy , better then her (spica, chydys being just 2 examples of units we had that are a higher priority then her)

kayfabe

05-07-2016, 12:39 AM

Once deployed , she is good statwise , but not worth the DCs in my opinion.

I wouldn't go that far. She's expensive and I'm a strong advocate of at least getting your primary tanking setup operational before grabbing her but she's actually pretty nasty once you factor in her attack speed. Basically, I don't think she's a unit that she should be skipped but I also don't think that she's such a priority unit that the current levels of smack talk going on are really warranted.

soranokira

05-07-2016, 12:42 AM

you do realize you shot yourself in the foot when you said the cost is an issue when saki gets -4 cost atm from AW as it is atm? and that I was being really sarcastic when I said you practically assumed everybody can get a magic fencer to replace ninjas? getting a decent ranged melee IS a priority (see G-tier this event, the QQ when solano event came before charlotte's and that 1 map with only 3 ranged slots almost forcing the necessity for a ranged melee) if you do not already have one, and therefore saki is NOT useless. (because you assumed everybody joined before 2016 and therefore has ranged melees to replace saki with.)

for the record, if you're gonna bring in ricardo, dude seriously sucks big time. you'd get more out of getting a saki than getting him and leveling him up. tried and tested.

I might as well point out that with the current shitty silver drop rates nutaku has atm and the slow pace of events, you'd get extra DCs to buy both spica and saki instead of AW'ing every core unit you are able to. with events as slow as it is, you're better off getting a ranged melee to cover more grounds and letting yourself be better prepared for future events. especially when AW units are NOT a necessity to clearing most of the events, simply making them easier. and that goes even for current DMM G-tier events: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmi49WuOnhk

edit: also, I wouldnt really say cost is an issue when it comes to ninjas. my saki cost 23, azami cost 18 in the 100/2 G tier, and I used her with no issues. 5 cost gap and still deployable. and they're just going to get cheaper.

lolix

05-07-2016, 01:30 AM

even with the -4 cost , saki is a 19 deploy cost. That' still not cheap. And you actually need to have an awakened saki for that in the first place , which is a issue.

That being said , if u guys like her , feel free to use her. I for 1 had no problem 3starring most events without her , and all i was wsaying is that she is not a priority over awakening core or aquiring priority stuff (like spica) in the first place. If u have extra dcs , you might as well get it and awaken her

Edit : @kayfabe , i said that she is good statwise once deployed , didn't i ?

namhoang909

05-07-2016, 04:39 AM

you can let katie survive by placing her behind imelia, then activate anelia skill when the middle pumpkins get near. that is why I mentioned to follow the guide lafate used. I guess everyone fell in love with poortroopers/keykii and can only use their videos w/o checking other videos.

lol i did check Lafate post but after realizing that multi-arrow shoot unit i thought i should follow others' posts

Asdf1

05-07-2016, 06:37 AM

some like saki some don't no point arguing about it, she is not useless nor is she a priority for new players i think that's what everybody is trying to say and for the record dmm players does not mean better players

Blaxer

05-07-2016, 08:55 AM

So Saki's usefullness aside
How's the soul gathering going for you guys? i don't count the SC i've used but i only have used them on Sta atm, i let cha regen naturally

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/07/P90blRGCf6.png

kayfabe

05-07-2016, 10:02 AM

I've been getting 2 or 3 drops often enough that I'm starting to take it personally.

soranokira

05-07-2016, 10:17 AM

http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http://i.imgur.com/Jy2jxKh.png

with 14 SCs spent, 2 of which were on charisma. leveling to 180 tomorrow too.

Eab1990

05-07-2016, 10:47 AM

because he's gonna replace them with magic fencers since everyone including him and those who joined only in 2016 have horus and charlotte and therefore saki = useless.
also because he has azami therefore saki is useless since azami can do everything saki can do (except the truth of the matter is that she actually can't). also because a unit is only useful if she doesnt need to be maxed out.

now if only our blacks actually have their pre-AW passives implemented.

I didn't even bring up magic fencers because the pumpkins here have MR, as well as the mummies on desert maps that need most of its ranged slots taken up by healers/archers, so you get better mileage out of ninja assassination there too.

And cost isn't a point against Saki either, seeing as our magic fencers also cost a lot to deploy, and neither of them should be your first deployment in a map.

Overall, this has less to do with lolix having some weird hate-boner over Saki and more that he has no idea what he's talking about (as usual) and him hating Saki is just a by-product of that.

soranokira

05-07-2016, 10:58 AM

I didn't even bring up magic fencers because the pumpkins here have MR, as well as the mummies on desert maps that need most of its ranged slots taken up by healers/archers, so you get better mileage out of ninja assassination there too.

And cost isn't a point against Saki either, seeing as our magic fencers also cost a lot to deploy, and neither of them should be your first deployment in a map.

Overall, this has less to do with lolix having some weird hate-boner over Saki and more that he has no idea what he's talking about (as usual) and him hating Saki is just a by-product of that.

I was mixing sarcasm with what he was thinking btw. it's ok, he can preach what he wants while we continue to use the units that we feel are good.

lolix

05-07-2016, 02:03 PM

King Dong

05-07-2016, 02:24 PM

I love all the drama that surrounds Saki on these forums. :D Good times! ;)

Ramazan

05-07-2016, 02:50 PM

which is exactly what i said eab (the part about me having something with saki). Also i don't get how exactly you guys missed the part were i said saki is a good unit stat wise. AKA , SHE HAS GOOD STATS ONCE DEPLOYED AND IT'S IN NO WAY BAD FOR WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

I just pointed out that 300 dcs is a lot. 100 more even more so , if you want to make her cheaper to deploy , for a unit that will have fairly average (or under average usage) when you can simply use said dc's on priority stuff. She is in no way a priority unit to aquire.

Somehow you guys keep going over that part and bash me for saying that saki is not good. I said she's useless. As in "she has no uses". Obviously that's hyperbole , as eab pointed out , but that doesn't change the fact that she is a very costly unit to aquire , and some might consider her not being worth the investment. i am one of those. I've yet to have an event where i really though "man , my first account is doing so well with saki , i should really get her for my second"

For example i've 3stared lynn's event without her , and as far as i know , that was 1 of the events were a ninja would have been really good seeing as we had maps without ranged slots.

That being said , if you want to use it , just use it. Nobody is stoping you from sinking your dcs in it.

We'll spend that 100 aw dc for all gold+ units we use anyway so no need to worry about it, except the ones like anna ofc. There are risk factors in most maps, most of them dependent on rng and timing, and saki is a bonus unit which decreases these risk factors because of having high stats and being a multipurpose unit. Ofc you can clear all maps without saki but if you're not whale and have no full black + good plat team you'll get in trouble with most of the difficult maps because of low dmg. One of you guys implied about magic fencers, i dont think we have an easy access to a good magic fencer, didnt heard someone saying ricardo is an useful unit too.

lolix

05-07-2016, 03:17 PM

switch

05-07-2016, 03:19 PM

Mikoto is my best panic button aha :)

JMich

05-07-2016, 03:57 PM

Don't tell me you would rather get saki then get and awaken spica , or your core HAT units first ?

I got Spica, then got Saki, then awakening came and I awoke Bernice, Iris, Betty and Katie (so far). I do not regret getting saki, even though I still haven't CC'ed.
My current limiting factor for awakening isn't DCs, it's unit experience and silver fodder. Possible other use for the 300 DCs would be getting a second Spica to CR the main, not sure if an extra unit is better than a CRed unit or not.

kayfabe

05-07-2016, 04:09 PM

I didn't even bring up magic fencers because the pumpkins here have MR, as well as the mummies on desert maps that need most of its ranged slots taken up by healers/archers, so you get better mileage out of ninja assassination there too.

Due to their ability to toggle damage type via skill activation Enemy MR and Armor are relatively minor concerns for Magic Fencers compared to the fact that they have a ranged damage penalty and much slower attack speed than ninjas--things have to be pretty heavily armored before magic fencers really rival ninjas in dps. Charlotte and Horace actually can do quite well in this event but that has more to do with the fact that they have decent health and MR and thus are competent lightning rods in addition to pitching in some extra damage at range and dueling in melee. They're more like off-tanks than a big pile of extra dps.

Buster Wolf

05-07-2016, 05:22 PM

ok , i can get behind that. She's a panic buton. A lot of blacks are because of black skills. She's still expensive , and she's still not a priority unit in any case. Don't tell me you would rather get saki then get and awaken spica , or your core HAT units first ?

In all honesty the only Awakened unit you really need is a Healer (even then you don't really), there are many video solutions to maps where you don't require Awakened units or use a variety of different units to fill for not having a certain unit.

kayfabe

05-07-2016, 06:14 PM

I mostly prioritized my damage sponges. You can often make for a lack of soak with careful parachutes and withdrawals but messing around with that crap gets old pretty fast when you're grinding the same map for 10 days. I'd rather just park Awakened Bernice and go back to my book than hover over the withdrawal button to make sure I save enough UP for my next chump blocker.

switch

05-07-2016, 06:30 PM

Just awaken a DPS and iris or Camilla. And you're golden for days, Katie is also good for the passive and she becomes a somewhat decent blocker

lolix

05-07-2016, 06:35 PM

lets not forget about awakened spica. Increases damage to all archers , and gets bonus damage to fliers , which is great for farming the x and g maps for more dcs. There are a crapload of units that i'd rather awaken first before buying a saki. That was exactly my point. If ill ever have extra , then sure , ill go for her , but i wouldn't recomant a saki to newbies , unless they really really need a ranged on melee slot

soranokira

05-07-2016, 08:03 PM

except even if they need a ranged on a melee slot, you wouldn't recommend saki to them either. that was the problem. you could've said she's not necessary for one who has a ranged melee alternative, but you didn't. you literally assumed everyone has access to a good ranged melee already and therefore saki is unnecessary and therefore you can jump straight to AW'ing units without getting saki (after getting spica. spica is a priority, period)

lolix

05-07-2016, 08:23 PM

spica is probably a priority even if they need a ranged on melee spot.That's the issue with god damn saki. Like seriously , i've done the shitiest maps that were without/very few ranged slots where a ninja would have helped a lot , without them, even before charlotte;s event, with multiple duelists and/or archers/aoe. Hell , for solanos and horace there were maps that could have been easier with ranged on melee , but i still did it without her , and still got perfect units. Saki is in no way a god damn priority. SHe's good to have if you do want a ranged on melee and you have the dcs for her. If you're a newbie low on dc's , don't bother getting her first. Get a god damn spica and even awaken her long before you even decide to get saki. ANd even then , you might find a better use for those dc seing as we're getting harder and harder maps that require awakenings of healers , or tanks , or of duelists.

switch

05-07-2016, 09:03 PM

lolix what are you 2 main dps ranged slots?

lolix

05-07-2016, 09:47 PM

spica/bashira on first account (keep in mind that i started during kerry's era) and bashira/spica/nanaly (still in kerry's era) on my second. Usually my second has better ranged dps. My first has much better duelists/healers

Malcolm

05-07-2016, 09:48 PM

if you have plenty DC to get saki, then you're a long time veteran player, should already have several melee-range units such as azami, charlotte, rika etc. so saki is not necessary.

if you're a new player, then of course you shouldn't bother with saki. if you do need range fire on melee slot, the gold/plat sailor can get most job done, enough to guide you to the future black ninja event.

Eab1990

05-07-2016, 10:19 PM

>claims to not need Saki on his second account
>has Nanaly on second account

Found your fucking problem there.

Spica does not replace Saki either. If you need that ranged spot for a healer/mage/whatever else, Spica obviously isn't going to help. Yes, Spica is better in most situations, but that wasn't the point of this argument. Once again, if you have other major priorities, no one is saying Saki should be picked above them. We're arguing against your idea that Saki shouldn't be picked up at all unless you're drowning in DCs. If, say, my only options for AW were extremely low-priority units like Cuterie, Mehlis, or Stray, I would pick Saki over them.

if you have plenty DC to get saki, then you're a long time veteran player, should already have several melee-range units such as azami, charlotte, rika etc. so saki is not necessary.

if you're a new player, then of course you shouldn't bother with saki. if you do need range fire on melee slot, the gold/plat sailor can get most job done, enough to guide you to the future black ninja event.

Uh what. Sailors don't replace ninjas either. They don't have the same DPS and they have a cooldown timer, and are essentially worthless pre-AW anyway. At least use Rika instead or something.

switch

05-07-2016, 10:25 PM

side note and not sure if this wwas already askecd but what are imelias and amelias SAW, nvm manged to find them by the looks of it iemlia is 2.3 attack n defense for 70% health loss after and amelias is 1.5 damage to 3 targets ignoring defense right?

lolix

05-07-2016, 10:46 PM

and the nanaly argument would have been worth a damn if i would have used saki to replicate my god damn succes from my second account , on my first 1 , by using saki to subsitute for weaker ranged prowess. That's not the case

CharlesRJC

05-08-2016, 04:15 AM

Let me get this stuff straight for all people that got confused by this discussion:

Saki is great unit but should not be prioritized over Spica or any other base units. If you are at the point you desperately need ranged unit in meele slot go for her since you are unlikely to get anything better. If you fear that'll get you behind with awakenings spend those 10-15 SC's on DC day refills. Better than getting 3 silver bandits anyway. Consider awakening Saki pretty soon because it gives her great boost. Consider skillupping her as well because her skill AW is pretty brutal and you will want to be done with if ASAP.

Ignore lolix opinion because he's simply wrong. And no, I'm not going to discuss it with you so don't bother replying :P

Charles out.

lolix

05-08-2016, 09:34 AM

you literally said what i said. (at least do read the conversation before butting in trying to look cool) . I said the same : saki is a good unit statwise , but she should not be a priority. I repeated that shit for 3 pages now. Then i'm wrong :) ok charles

Edit : also if you're f2p , and haven't even maxed your baracks yet , spending 15 dcs is a pretty big hit and u would wnat an awakened spica for them anyway for the highest level of effivciency , by being able to do the X-G maps

Eab1990

05-08-2016, 10:13 AM

No, you said she was useless, then tried to change the definition of "useless" to mean "you should not get her because I had no use for her, even if other people did". If you just left it at saying Saki was low-priority, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because once again, no one was arguing against that.

lolix

05-08-2016, 10:28 AM

for the love of god , you people are serious ? I said she was useless , which was obviously poor wording , but if you go and look back at that reply , you would see that , right then i actually said that she has her ussese but her cost is too high and there are other priority units then her....in the same damn reply. It's obvious i just had a poor choice of words

I kept repeating that , and i said a number of times that it was indeed a poor choice of words and i didn't meant she's useless in the traditional sense of the word. That can happen when people are not native speakers.

Meanwhile , you guys entirely ignore that part and get stuck over a word. Are you really that petty ?

EDIT : looking back at the god damn reply i didn't even fucking said that she was useless myself. ramazan said "and people said that saki is useless , not worthy , etc"
To which i replied that they are right aka saki is not worth the cost of being a priority unit. Therefore i didn't even said what u people are acusing me of saying for god's sake

soranokira

05-08-2016, 10:40 AM

You basically said she's not a priority. (which, if you noticed, you globally assigned her a useless role just because she's 300 DC and that no one should get her, be it newbie or veteran)
Me and charles basically said she is a priority for those lacking a good ranged melee. that is all.

you do realize you shot yourself in the foot when you said the cost is an issue when saki gets -4 cost atm from AW as it is atm? and that I was being really sarcastic when I said you practically assumed everybody can get a magic fencer to replace ninjas? getting a decent ranged melee IS a priority (see G-tier this event, the QQ when solano event came before charlotte's and that 1 map with only 3 ranged slots almost forcing the necessity for a ranged melee) if you do not already have one, and therefore saki is NOT useless. (because you assumed everybody joined before 2016 and therefore has ranged melees to replace saki with.)

just because you don't need her to clear your maps doesnt mean everyone else has a good ranged melee replacement like you.

and before you bring up spica again, I already mentioned she is lower priority compared to spica, but depending on the situation saki is higher priority than AW.

lolix

05-08-2016, 10:48 AM

you rea.ize everybody gets a ranged on melee slot right now ? and while the sailor is pretty crap , and least new players have that covered up...unlike us , which we didn't...and somehow still managed to survive without saki. The point is : saki is not a priority unit and that's that. Stop telling newbies to get her. She's not worth the investment , even over other units then spica. Sure , if u can use scs for refils to spam the dc map maybe. If we get SAW in the near future , maybe as well , because she becomes quite a lot better , but right now ? i'd rather improve my core team sora , while ignoring saki. That should be even more valid for newbie players

soranokira

05-08-2016, 11:01 AM

Spica does not replace Saki either. If you need that ranged spot for a healer/mage/whatever else, Spica obviously isn't going to help. Yes, Spica is better in most situations, but that wasn't the point of this argument. Once again, if you have other major priorities, no one is saying Saki should be picked above them. We're arguing against your idea that Saki shouldn't be picked up at all unless you're drowning in DCs. If, say, my only options for AW were extremely low-priority units like Cuterie, Mehlis, or Stray, I would pick Saki over them.

Uh what. Sailors don't replace ninjas either. They don't have the same DPS and they have a cooldown timer, and are essentially worthless pre-AW anyway. At least use Rika instead or something.

clearly you don't read. or have a completely different opinion against this yet can't refute this. so be it.

unlike us , which we didn't...and somehow still managed to survive without saki
OF COURSE WE DID. all we had to do was just 2* skip that damn map if we couldn't anyway, or get a weaker solano back then. I mean, we don't DIE because we don't have a ranged melee. hell, you don't die even if you started playing from day 1 and you couldn't 3* this G-tier map. actually, can anyone even die in this game? I mean, life = 0 and yet life carries on, grind harder.

Stop telling newbies to get her. She's not worth the investment

Read the part I quoted from Eab's post.

i'd rather improve my core team sora , while ignoring saki. That should be even more valid for newbie players

that's your choice and that's because you have actual ranged melees to work around, as well as some OP premium units that not everyone has to help them clear maps which would otherwise become more manageable with a ranged melee. GGWP whenever we start getting maps with little ranged spots and then you realize ranged melees get more important (the same way priest warriors get important), and then you don't have to care because you have your pitiful ninja azami which somehow still works while newbies who listened to you suffer because they have no permanent ranged melees to work around maps.

great advice.

lolix

05-08-2016, 11:18 AM

actually i have no ninja. Have just 1 coppy of azami on both accounts lol. Did dailies during her event. And you're still missing the point. My first acount doesn't have op ranged dps. Actually my best units are probably spica , bashira , tethis , celia and camila. That's all i have that are somewhat good. And tethis i even aquired her a month ago. I've did managed to get a perfect solano even tho i didn't 3stared the evnet (the last map required a multiple blacks and karma to do ffs) , and i've literally 3 starred every event sincer hers with the exception of a G map that had 3 gold werewolfs , and can't remember what god damn event that was... And that wasn't becasue of saki. It was because i simply could not block it with any duelist , and even the guide videos used karma for them.

Other then that , i've managed to 3 star everything , without using saki , before and after getting horace or charllote (which is sitll not cc-ed for that matter). Horace was actually cc-ed a long time after her event as well since i didn't really needed a ranged melee that much in the first place on that account. Funny because i did cc-ed both charlotte and horace on the nanaly account , mosttly because i lacked good duelists , and i used them as pseudo princesses more then ranged melee.

And that's the great story of saki , that stays unused while being maxed and black. I guess she had her usage tho : managed to clear my black fairies from inventory since i was running out of space.

EDIT 2 for clarity : i'm not saying that saki doesn't have her usese , but the instances you would really really require a ninja are really not that many as you guys make it out to be. She is in no way a priority to aquire. Other then that , i am done. Don't see the point of this stupid argument when literally all parts involved here agree that she's not a priority. Whatever she's worth the cost of dc's is debatable because aquiring saki requires a couple of IFs before : first you have to wonder , have you gotten spica ? Have you awakened her yet ? If not >> she takes priority over saki. Second , is your core team strong enough to deal with new content , or there are any instances where you can't advance your story/daily/challenge ? Then your core team takes priority. You have the amount of dcs for her without gimping or stalling the awakening of priority units ? Are the instances were you need a ranged on melee slot that often that you have to invest all your dcs in her ?

That's the point with saki. SHe's conditioned by a lot of crap , that paying players or the ones that played before the big break don't understand because they had a crapload of dcs coming into awakening and most likely had a saki before we even got AW. It's not that easy for free players and especially newbies to get them.

That being said , i won't deny that saki has very good stats once deployed , and has some usses. I guess each person have to weight the pros and the cons for their own accounts. And that's how i feel we should end this , because we're going to pointlessly argue about semantics of a word otherwise

Eab1990

05-08-2016, 04:49 PM

We're arguing against your use of the word "useless" because your entire argument has been contingent on some weird mistaken notion that everyone has access to some better free replacement for Saki. That is not the case. Viera does not replace Saki. Ricardo sure as hell does not replace Saki. Actual ranged units are not always an option. Even if you had Azami, Saki is flat out better.

Don't try to shift the blame of your poor choice of words when your whole argument is shit.

Side note, there is something ridiculously amusing about how you failed to 3* one of the easiest G maps.

lolix

05-08-2016, 04:59 PM

my poor choice of words is something that i admited and corected later on , even tho you guys still insist on making a whole argument based on that. (even tho if you go look at the reply on page 11 , i didn't even said that word. You just assumed that i did , because i said that the people who "consider saki useless and unworthy" are right. I actually meant to say that shes not worth the cost , but whatever...that's how it came out. I admited it was a poor choice of words in the end). In the same reply i even said that saki has her uses. Therefore how could you say that i said she;s useless , whne my reply pointed out that she's not ?

Just how petty are you ? for real.

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and said people are right. You realize that he invested 300 dcs just to get her , raised her up (used 3 silvers to cc her + a crapload of experience to max a black unit) , and after that he awakened her (so...what , 100 more dcs , 6 more silvers + orbs + gold) + even more experience, when he could have simply used an archer that doesn't need too tank them either.

For example i had great results using bashira (non awakened) during her skill usage. Actually every archer that can shot multiple arrows (or even a vh) can do it without it having to be awaken.....and they cost less to deploy either.

Now don't get me wrong. Saki has her uses , but this event is hardly one of them. She is usefull for some maps , but for everything that has ranged slots avaible , she's not that great. She's really good when you really really need a ranged on a meele slot

Do read what i said pls

Eab1990

05-08-2016, 04:59 PM

The only petty one is the one who thinks their argument is still right after saying their choice of words was wrong, yet still continues to say the same damn wrong things.

Seriously, I'm not the only one who sees a blatant contradiction when you say "useless was an exaggeration" and "people who say Saki is useless are right" in the same post.

lolix

05-08-2016, 05:24 PM

do you even read ?or have some sort of case of being special ? I didn't meant to say shes useless , especially since i didn't used the word myself. I just agree with the part of the phrase that said that she's unworthy. I still think she's not worth the cost in most cases. (notice how i rambled on about costs ?) DOesnt change the fact that she is a good unit statwise that can be used at certain times.

Like you are literally impossible. You've said useless was a bad word. I agreed with you and said that i didn't meant that. Then everyone agree with me that saki is not a priority unit. Like wtf is left to even fucking argue ?

Whatever if i actually meant useless or worthless in my post ? Just looking at it should be obvious that i meant she's not worth the investment , seeing as i rambled about costs and THEN i even said that she has her uses for maps that require ranged on melee. If its not obvious from that , that useless was not the word i was going for , i dunno what else to say.

Eab1990

05-08-2016, 05:58 PM

I gave you the more acceptable term "wasteful" four pages back, and you continued to argue that she wasn't a necessity, while simultaneously never offering any free alternatives for people to use, because you somehow assumed everyone has the ranged DPS for maps with limited range slots like Mighty Ogres X. How the hell did you even 3* that map, anyway? Buffs don't count, that's the easy way out and invalidates most strategies.

lolix

05-08-2016, 06:47 PM

i didn't 3 starred mighty ogres X. (As i said earlier , solano's event was 1 of the events i didn't 3 starred. )Well , at least not on my first account. I think i did it on the nanaly account tho. can't remember exactly. regardless , it doesn't matter since the last map was way out of my realm of posibility with the units i had at the time. So didn't 3 starred the event.

Also , corection : i didn't said that she's not a necesity. I said that she's not a priority , unless you have extra dcs.

Actually , realistically speaking she's not a necesity FOR QUITE SOME TIME (you will need her eventually since her saw is rather good , and she is a good unit statwise) when building a good army either (KEEP IN MIND THAT I AM TALKING HYPOTHETICALLY RIGHT NOW) , unless you really really need a ranged on melee slot and were unlucky to get rika , horace , charlotte or even azami if u want to consider her (even tho she's meh) and so on.

That generally includes newbies that started at most a month or 2 ago. I would argue that said people have other priorities untill aquiring a ranged melee slot. And untill they will have their core team up , we will probably get another event that will involve a unit like that , and they will be better served by using those dcs on other stuff.

That literally means 2 things : if you're a veteran , you can wait on getting her because you probably have replacements. If you're a newbie , you have other priorities anyway. Either way , saki is better to get when you have a surplus of DC , otherwise , i agree with you , she is wasteful...aka she's not worth.

Blaxer

05-08-2016, 06:47 PM

lolix

05-08-2016, 07:00 PM

actually i got for the last day only 2 or 3 drops as well mate. Pretty shitty

Tenhou

05-08-2016, 07:01 PM

Fuck reunion G hahahaha
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/09/msnvMOpru.png
This aside i have had "decent" luck with drops, considering my luck, been geting 14 minimum, 19 average and 24 once every second day

Oh i got that few as well today once. Didn't even know it could go that low :P

Talith

05-08-2016, 07:13 PM

Fuck reunion G hahahaha
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/09/msnvMOpru.png
This aside i have had "decent" luck with drops, considering my luck, been geting 14 minimum, 19 average and 24 once every second day

And just after looking at this post:

http://i.imgur.com/U4n6pFt.png

That would be the 3rd or 4th time so far, but I think overall I'm still hitting average or slightly above.

Blaxer

05-08-2016, 07:23 PM

And just after looking at this post:

http://i.imgur.com/U4n6pFt.png

That would be the 3rd or 4th time so far, but I think overall I'm still hitting average or slightly above.

Your Horace is awakened right? how much MR does she have after AW? is she a good magick tank? why do i ask these things?

Tenhou

05-08-2016, 07:28 PM

Got 718 souls now, so i'm well on track for the 1,4k i need.

Talith

05-08-2016, 08:18 PM

Your Horace is awakened right? how much MR does she have after AW? is she a good magick tank? why do i ask these things?

She is awoken and level 45 with 2013 health and 10 MR. She just also happens to be my strongest MR duelist since I can't awaken Claudia yet.

She also doesn't hit the field until all 3 medics are already out. Odette and Fedora actives make it a very comfortable waiting period until Horace gets deployed.

Pyonification

05-08-2016, 08:29 PM

Got 718 souls now, so i'm well on track for the 1,4k i need.

If we're posting progress, I'm at 417 souls after 5 sacred crystals.

switch

05-08-2016, 08:51 PM

645 I think with like maybe 10 crystals

soranokira

05-08-2016, 08:52 PM

I have 894 atm, so I'm way over. gonna switch over to farming the silvers I need now.

anyway looks like ranged melees are not a priority so ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDI22icDeOs

lolix

05-08-2016, 09:00 PM

i'm certain that newbies will want to rush melee ranged exactly for that map sora. /s

Ericridge

05-09-2016, 12:22 AM

I'm only strong enough to do the first map so I'm aiming for 25 souls.

switch

05-09-2016, 12:43 AM

Eric I wouldn't even bother with the first map it's a waste of time to farm it. You would be much better off just lvling as much as you can and doing atleast the 2nd or 3rd map on the last few days of event. The second map has 100% drop rate of 3 souls so it's already way better and it can drop rogues which you will need a fair amount of. Or if you can maange to do the 3rd map you can get Laurens which you will need for when you get a spica. :P

Ericridge

05-09-2016, 02:11 AM

soranokira

05-09-2016, 02:40 AM

Well what is the average level of units needed to beat 3rd map? My units is like at lvl 10-20. I got killed easily on 2nd map.
you have 1 week to http://harem-battle.club/millennium-war-aigis/1219-beginner-guide-leveling-team.html

ignore the event until the last 3 days. by then you should be able to manage map 2 enough to at least get 25 souls for a full cost imelia. in this case you would prioritize getting 1 cc'd healer and 2 cc'd archers if possible. as well as a bit of levels on cloris and hopefully bashira + soma + cloris can get you through 2nd map. the 1 week of grinding = charisma on story maps, stamina on clearing challenge quests (etheternal guide vid)

switch

05-09-2016, 02:44 AM

lol by the looks of map 2, you would need like 2 lvl 30 archers lvl 30 katie and maybe 2 lvl 30 healers or maybe just 1 healer. i would put katie where the prince is in the video, lvl 30 is probably over kill for that map i would think lvl 20 would be able to do it

ZeroZet

05-09-2016, 03:17 AM

Wasn't recommended levels for maps be stamina cost x10 or something like that?
With X being "CC onry" and G being "max out and pray"?)

lolix

05-09-2016, 03:21 AM

Wasn't recommended levels for maps be stamina cost x10 or something like that?
With X being "CC onry" and G being "max out and pray"?)

first time i hear that 1.

soranokira

05-09-2016, 06:05 AM

Wasn't recommended levels for maps be stamina cost x10 or something like that?
With X being "CC onry" and G being "max out and pray"?)

nope.
the maps are basically split into E, N, H, X and G. which is also level 1, 25, 50, cc25, cc50 respectively. note that these recommended levels are for 1*, not 3*. and yes, these values are not made up by me, they are found in the DMM version.

Ericridge

05-09-2016, 03:44 PM

As it turns out my characters was already tough enough to clear 2nd stage and 3 star it. My biggest mistake was putting down Heavy infantry instead of valkyries.

But Mages is so obscenely expensive to summon man. Difficult to hold off hordes of magical damage units that is mostly vulnerable to magical damage cuz of high prices on mages. 28 for valeria and 25 for vanilla mages. It'd make a world of difference if mages was 20 points.

So yeah, lvl 20-10 characters can 3* the 2nd stage if you're fast enough to click fast on korean starcraft levels of clicking hax speed.

Blaxer

05-09-2016, 07:44 PM

But Mages is so obscenely expensive to summon man. Difficult to hold off hordes of magical damage units that is mostly vulnerable to magical damage cuz of high prices on mages. 28 for valeria and 25 for vanilla mages. It'd make a world of difference if mages was 20 points.

So yeah, lvl 20-10 characters can 3* the 2nd stage if you're fast enough to click fast on korean starcraft levels of clicking hax speed.

About mages: Wait untill you CC them bwahahahaha, remember that soldiers and valks are your friends ;)
About clicking speed, OSU

ZeroZet

05-09-2016, 09:34 PM

But Mages is so obscenely expensive to summon man. Difficult to hold off hordes of magical damage units that is mostly vulnerable to magical damage cuz of high prices on mages. 28 for valeria and 25 for vanilla mages. It'd make a world of difference if mages was 20 points. That's why you want to Class Evolve Katie pronto) Reinforce3 is that good))
Maybe even deploy Phyllis/ alongside.

Roy you can also Cost Reduce once, his copies can be easily reobtained. But I advice against CRing silvers until you have at least more than six copies of them.

namhoang909

05-10-2016, 02:38 AM

nope.
the maps are basically split into E, N, H, X and G. which is also level 1, 25, 50, cc25, cc50 respectively. note that these recommended levels are for 1*, not 3*. and yes, these values are not made up by me, they are found in the DMM version.

not related but what do you think about AW kerry and babie, i see slowing down part but not sure the increasing damage or increase range can suffice that

switch

05-10-2016, 02:41 AM

I can't see aw Kerry being a good thing. Probably better off waiting till a event valk if that's the only reason you aw Kerry cause she is a valk

Tenhou

05-10-2016, 05:51 AM

There's probably no reason to AW Kerry unless you are having problems with her surviving and she's your only choice. At that point you also need to be prepared to feed her a ton of fodders to get her past her normal stats, though.

Barbie, well... It is a dps loss. Just because you can attack earlier it won't mean your damage will be higher sadly. It'd be something to awaken if you lack long range damage dealers to fill a certain ranged slot on a battlefield, but usually you won't need that and a standard Barbie would be better.

namhoang909

05-10-2016, 06:49 AM

switch

05-10-2016, 07:01 AM

Barbra I would just use a mage lvl up armor. For when you get a plat mage or mehlis as she is rather good. As for Kerry idk I sure wouldn't awaken her unless you have another better I'm guessing you got them from gold rush? Wish we had another rush so I could max my iris CR aha

namhoang909

05-10-2016, 07:19 AM

how many copy of iris did you use for min cost

switch

05-10-2016, 07:25 AM

I haven't hence why I said I wish we have another aha . looking at your units I would awaken Katie. That 2% buff is nice and then Monica for the extra chance on DC. And seeing how a valk is in the maybe upcoming events I wouldn't put anything into Kerry

namhoang909

05-10-2016, 07:34 AM

i saw you said "max my iris CR" so i assume...
kerry's been my trump card for very long time she has high damage, armor and MR even after i got claudia, her low cost still made her more reliable

Tenhou

05-10-2016, 07:38 AM

i just have another copy of both and think it would be better to use it for CR since my units are max. i' definitely go for kattie but in mean time i think i should AW another to make future event easier, which one should i go for?
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With those things i wouldn't look into AWing Kerry at all. Claudia can't be AW'd yet so fair deal about it i guess, but she's still a better choice than Kerry for most things.

I'd awaken Katie next as you said, and nothing else in the meantime, really. I'd say one of the better decisions would be to aim for an as good Imelia as possible and then level + awaken her instead of whatever you have.

Possible units you want to awaken after leveling them later would be Monica and Hina albeit even that is rather vague. All in all, you don't necessarily need to awaken things asap to "make things easier" for you. Most events currently can be done well without any awakened units.

switch

05-10-2016, 07:51 AM

Then just use the Kerry for the CR and skill up.. The exp with fairy's is like less then 3k I think. Which really isn't alot compared to gold males who give 7k

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Even buying another spica for CR and skill up is better then awakening both barba and Kerry.

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You only wanna awaken units you really can't get better then. Or atleast not without summoning. Kerry and barba are both replaceable. It's not a matter of if it's when.

namhoang909

05-10-2016, 10:02 AM

With those things i wouldn't look into AWing Kerry at all. Claudia can't be AW'd yet so fair deal about it i guess, but she's still a better choice than Kerry for most things.

I'd awaken Katie next as you said, and nothing else in the meantime, really. I'd say one of the better decisions would be to aim for an as good Imelia as possible and then level + awaken her instead of whatever you have.

Possible units you want to awaken after leveling them later would be Monica and Hina albeit even that is rather vague. All in all, you don't necessarily need to awaken things asap to "make things easier" for you. Most events currently can be done well without any awakened units.
i still get problem with Pirate gem for katie, and till this point i have to admit i cc-ed shao only for Reunion G map, the next star event won't be sure to be lucky like this so i am thinking to AW Shao or maybe charlotte but i don't see many people use charlotte, most of guide i've seen people prefer magic fencer from desert

Then just use the Kerry for the CR and skill up.. The exp with fairy's is like less then 3k I think. Which really isn't alot compared to gold males who give 7k

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Even buying another spica for CR and skill up is better then awakening both barba and Kerry.

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You only wanna awaken units you really can't get better then. Or atleast not without summoning. Kerry and barba are both replaceable. It's not a matter of if it's when.

kerry is at max lv already. and if she is not for cr then maybe i'll use copy as fodder for AW

King Dong

05-10-2016, 02:28 PM

OK, Overwatch Beta is over ;( but now I can get back to MWA. So, how far do you guys think I can get on this event? And what should I be farming? Here is my current account info for both accounts...

2 Plat Account

Prince Level 106
http://i.imgur.com/06V1coY.png
http://i.imgur.com/InHmzlO.png

Edit: I went ahead and 3*ed The Princess and The Bandits, Imprisoned Souls, and Capital of Evil Spirits for a total of 9 Citizens' Souls. Should I push on? If so how far? OR Should I farm Capital of Evil Spirits for Silver Archers? Keep in mind I'm F2P and will need archers for Spica, Marr, and Cypria.

Black Account

Prince level 96
http://i.imgur.com/zTm16qR.png
http://i.imgur.com/G2jrMOy.png

Edit: I went ahead and 3*ed The Princess and The Bandits, Imprisoned Souls, and Capital of Evil Spirits for a total of 6 Citizens' Souls and 1 Silver Archer. Should I push on? If so how far? OR Should I farm Capital of Evil Spirits for Silver Archers? Keep in mind I'm F2P and will need archers for Spica and Cypria.

soranokira

05-10-2016, 09:18 PM

I'd say you should just check the videos and try. most event maps have tons of life so you don't fail the map all that easily, just leak a ton of monsters and lose out on drops, getting a 1*. also, http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Event_Missions you might want to read up on event missions to get a better understanding of each type of event mission so you know how far you want to go yourself. as a rough estimate, you need cr2 on an event unit for it to cost the same as a premium gacha unit of the same class.

lolix

05-10-2016, 09:46 PM

just searched overwatch since i hear a lot of people being hyped over it. Now i have a new crush.

namhoang909

05-10-2016, 11:31 PM

King Dong

05-11-2016, 06:30 AM

a really lucky F2P, if you aim for event unit (plt bandit) go for hardest map you can, let a few enemies slip, souls come from these pumpkin, archer can be farmed in future event, like star event( best scene) or just stick with your plan and farm archer to AW Spica and Bashira

"Lucky"? More like dedicated I farmed starts for both accounts I have played the start 100+ times. :P

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Ok, I pushed on a bit this morning and my current progress is...

2 Plat Account

Prince Level 106
http://i.imgur.com/06V1coY.png
http://i.imgur.com/InHmzlO.png

The Princess and The Bandits 3*
Imprisoned Souls 3*
Capital of Evil Spirits 3*
Hollow Monsters 3*
Artillery Monsters X 3*
Army of the Dead X (Will Marr work for a third healer, and my duelist are Elaine 50cc30, Eunice 35, and Cypria 50 think it will work?)
King of the Dead G
Reunion G

Current Citizens' Souls 36

Black Account

Prince level 96
http://i.imgur.com/zTm16qR.png
http://i.imgur.com/G2jrMOy.png
The Princess and The Bandits 3*
Imprisoned Souls 3*
Capital of Evil Spirits 3*
Hollow Monsters 3*
Artillery Monsters X 2* (messed up withdraw will 3* I think)
Army of the Dead X (I don't have 3rd non-lvl1 healer, and I only have Elaine 50cc30 and Cypria non cced for duelist. Think I should try anyways?)
King of the Dead G
Reunion G

Current Citizens' Souls 38

I'm not sure about trying G maps, and if I do is 1 staring them worth it? I mean you won't get the SC and I don't have an awakened archer which is a early unit in both maps.

Anyways thanks in advance to anyone who replies, and thank you to those who already have. :D

lolix

05-11-2016, 06:52 AM

if u can get all the drops it might be worth , but considering most of the times u get 8 total souls , not sure if the risk is woth the rewards. There is also thee chance of getting 5 or 6 drops tho , and that gives a crapload of souls (19-24) , but that rarely happens. More often then now u will get 3-4 drops

Tenhou

05-11-2016, 07:19 AM

Speaking of the event, this might give some random fancy light on the usefulness of Imelia for anyone still on the fence:
https://iceinhell.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/event-preview-the-princess-the-bandits-and-the-capital-of-evil-spirits/

Talith

05-11-2016, 08:14 AM

1185 souls farming G exclusively. Almost there.

soranokira

05-11-2016, 08:24 AM

1185 souls farming G exclusively. Almost there.

a tad overkill. we still have 5~6 days of farming. I even switched from G to silvers farming to slow down, lol

Eab1990

05-11-2016, 08:31 AM

12 SC, 840/1400 souls. This morning was a good one, got 24/19/24 souls.

Talith

05-11-2016, 08:59 AM

a tad overkill. we still have 5~6 days of farming. I even switched from G to silvers farming to slow down, lol

I should as well at this point. Farming archers in Capital of Evil Spirits might be where I head to.

Blaxer

05-12-2016, 01:06 PM

The dream is real guys
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/05/12/DkymP.png
for those who cared/remember i go on a trip tomorrow early morning so i wanted to rush those 1.4k and actually made it :)
Now i can go in peace

lolix

05-12-2016, 01:26 PM

around 1.1k on both accounts. Somewhere around 20 scs i think

slyyr

05-12-2016, 05:22 PM

Spent no SCs and just hit 307 souls. Well on target for 400 in total.

Also have farmed 4 Laurens and 4 Eunices.

King Dong

05-12-2016, 05:43 PM

So, just to be clear you need to get -2 UC to make the unit worth using right? (well equal to a gatcha) And that is like 300 souls...so should that be my goal? I failed on the second X map, so I have just been farming the X map I can do.

switch

05-12-2016, 06:03 PM

I would aim for 405 if you can for the plat armor and skill lvl is always good

solitarydragon97

05-12-2016, 11:05 PM

15SCs, 990 souls. I really hate the last map's drop rate.

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I have a feeling that after next run, I will have 999 souls. :(

Masterwolf

05-13-2016, 12:09 AM

Well got to 264 souls mainly farming the Capital of Evil Spirits since I needed Laurens badly since Last Thursday I got Spica. She is now CC40. Also spent some time and SCs trying to get affection up since I was so haphazard about it when I first made this main account. Man that made a huge difference since I just redid Artillery Monsters X and 3 starred it easily. Gonna give the Army of the Dead X map tomorrow to see how I do since I totally zero starred it the first time I tried it last week. So I think I will focus on getting to 400 and spending the rest of the time on finishing buffing up my team so that next event should be easier.

And was just able to 2 star the Awakening Gem quest. Still need to work on a few units but I was able to get some drops. So I am assuming (And yes I know it's a couple weeks off) I should Awaken Spica, then Katie.

namhoang909

05-13-2016, 05:55 AM

1253
took me a week to go through reunion G, i hope to make it to 1400

Talith

05-13-2016, 09:53 AM

At 1395 souls. Thanks to the Lauren drops I finally managed to CC Rita and Shao. Rita prime could finally consume her clones and went from 1CR 5/10 to Max CR 6/10. Now I can retire my old Somas as their eventual awakening fodder RIP.

lolix

05-13-2016, 10:11 AM

1275/1240. Both accounts are going to get 1.4k either around tomorow or the day after tomorow at most.

King Dong

05-14-2016, 06:44 AM

Well, after this mornings runs I have 150/167 on my two accounts. Hopefully I can hit the 300 mark (405 if I'm lucky).

Edit: What time does the event usually end? Like does it run all day and end the morning after at 6 AM or does it end at 6 AM on the posted dated?

Tenhou

05-14-2016, 06:51 AM

It ends on tuesday, no idea the exact time but perhaps around 6-7 GMT+2?

Basically maintenance will end on 12:00 GMT+2 so it will start a few hours before that.

switch

05-14-2016, 07:53 AM

Yeah make sure to use all your last stamina well before the event end. Don't leave it to the last minute maintenance has stuffed me so many times with events or golden armor

Talith

05-14-2016, 10:52 AM

So 30 stones for me so far this month, but without spending anymore I'll have 1500 souls cleared and I've already gotten 7 Archers and 4 Bandits out of it as well. Really happy with this event and the prize at the end.

kayfabe

05-15-2016, 02:27 AM

I'm at 32 crystals spent and I'm below 1400. That's with doing Reunion too. So fuck this event, basically.

switch

05-15-2016, 02:29 AM

Yeah I also seem to be alot lower then I should be.. Ehhh

CharlesRJC

05-15-2016, 02:30 AM

Just quick reminder that if you are going for 1400 not 1500 you are doing it wrong

switch

05-15-2016, 02:33 AM

I've run Lauren map on alt for 3 days now without a single silver drop

soranokira

05-15-2016, 02:58 AM

Just quick reminder that if you are going for 1400 not 1500 you are doing it wrong

not for those who have 30 rainbow fairies to throw. it's still an optional thing IMO.

switch

05-15-2016, 03:15 AM

If imelia is anything like my spica. That bitch chews rainbows and gives nothing back.

CharlesRJC

05-15-2016, 03:34 AM

not for those who have 30 rainbow fairies to throw. it's still an optional thing IMO.

Can't really imagine situation when you have 30 spare rainbows. Even if you are unlucky enough to not roll premium plats/blacks, that still leaves unit drop events and golds. Besides if your luck is shit 30 rainbows might get used to max skills of no more than 2 units.

And for 3SC's you would spend on last skillup you get value of skill awakening, bonus 10% defence and attack increase during skill use, the value of ~4 rainbow fairies, tin can and plat fairy. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

lolix

05-15-2016, 03:40 AM

depends if you can afford those extra scs , and also depends on how much luck you have doing Reunion G. for example , last day , i've gathered around 50 souls in total , because i kept getting 2-3 drops on that stupid map

namhoang909

05-15-2016, 05:09 AM

switch

05-15-2016, 05:23 AM

also gotten like shit aqll drops in the last few days

lacus

05-15-2016, 05:38 AM

Given how much of a pain King of the Dead G was to three-star, I was expecting Reunion G to be a little a little tougher :3 (Though I suppose it makes sense.) Also you guys are making me feel bad for only going for CR3 with all your perfect unit talks and such haha

namhoang909

05-15-2016, 07:05 AM

i took a little time looking around for King of the Dead only to realize most of them use more than 2 plt archer or 1 plt mage and other nuke unit, so i just pass

soranokira

05-15-2016, 07:48 AM

i took a little time looking around for King of the Dead only to realize most of them use more than 2 plt archer or 1 plt mage and other nuke unit, so i just pass

the vital units are probably angels/ranged melee, 2 duelists preferably princesses, 2 nuke units and 2+ good healers. but you'll have to decide for yourself whether you think your team is up to the task of handling it or not.

Tenhou

05-15-2016, 07:55 AM

Can't really imagine situation when you have 30 spare rainbows. Even if you are unlucky enough to not roll premium plats/blacks, that still leaves unit drop events and golds. Besides if your luck is shit 30 rainbows might get used to max skills of no more than 2 units.

I'm going for 1,4k. I have 20ish rainbow fairies that i am not putting to use yet, way too many plat armours and i don't feel like one measly plat fairy is worth the extra SC.

I did the same for Claudia, got her SU within 2 rainbows. Then again, i know what some people *cough* sora *cough* will say about that.

kayfabe

05-15-2016, 08:05 AM

Trust me, if 1400 was my target I'd be considerably happier right now. My post was merely indicating that I've spent 30+ and failed to get that far.

slyyr

05-15-2016, 08:53 AM

I have 406 so I'm stopping here. Silver farming went really well with a haul of 6x Eunice, 5x Lauren, 2x Calliope and a Verotte.

This leaves me with the resources to Awaken Adele or Spica :D

Unregistered

05-15-2016, 10:19 AM

I have 406 so I'm stopping here. Silver farming went really well with a haul of 6x Eunice, 5x Lauren, 2x Calliope and a Verotte.

This leaves me with the resources to Awaken Adele or Spica :D

Good for you.I also aim to 405 since 500 seem pointless. I got 2 black during this event and yet both of them are not Sophie( really, RNG-sama?).Without Unit Exp and Gold to lv them ( I currently has 200+ k Gold and my best grind map is Fiery Oasis, start playing after the General of the ruined land event) they will just eat dust in my barrack, given that they are duelist ( Olivie and Berna).

switch

05-15-2016, 03:27 PM

Olivie is a very good duelist and I think she also buffs fairy's like spica which you will get or already have. And at skill lvl 5 100% Dodge. We will probably have a break after this event so atleast a week to lvl her aha

Tenhou

05-15-2016, 08:01 PM

Reached that 1,4k faster than i should because i accidentally used another SC. Oh well, done with the event. Gold farming for tomorrow.

switch

05-15-2016, 08:06 PM

Do you really need that gold or plat armor tho tenhou aha

lolix

05-15-2016, 08:10 PM

done with it as well. 1.4k on both accounts.

Talith

05-15-2016, 08:59 PM

1.5K cleared. Let's see what the news section has in store for us tomorrow.

soranokira

05-16-2016, 07:56 AM

finally done with this crap:
http://i.imgur.com/6qxKoVz.png

YoxalLoyal

05-16-2016, 09:29 AM

Why is it that I'm lucky with my drops on the last day. Been getting 4s, 5s, and 6s in 6 runs. Currently above 700, so I'm satisfied with my result.

switch

05-16-2016, 09:57 PM

Day 5 still no silvers from 40/4 ...

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I'm so done with this stupid event... Only needed 40 souls in 3 runs and get 2 runs of 0 soul drops from g map.

Unregistered

05-16-2016, 10:30 PM

No break, and another farm fest(well at least this one is newbie-friendly but still 10k monsters kills is nowhere easy)

soranokira

05-16-2016, 10:43 PM

No break, and another farm fest(well at least this one is newbie-friendly but still 10k monsters kills is nowhere easy)

it's actually a break. and nobody said you had to farm all 10k kills.

Arkinum

05-16-2016, 11:26 PM

Well I'm done. 9 silver archers (one went to CC Rita), bunch of bandits and a few other silvers. Managed to get 300 souls too.

I'm satisfied.

YoxalLoyal

05-16-2016, 11:42 PM

Ended up with 803 souls. Was praying for RNG to give me 19+ souls and I got one last 5 drop before finishing the event.

lolix

05-17-2016, 01:15 AM

still at 1.4k on both accounts. Might use a couple fairies to make it 10/10 skill. All in all pretty good.

Buster Wolf

05-17-2016, 01:24 AM

Little over 315 souls, but got 7 Barrads, 1 Phyllis & 1 Platinum Armor (have too many of these I can't use x.X)

Tenhou

05-17-2016, 04:40 AM

No break, and another farm fest(well at least this one is newbie-friendly but still 10k monsters kills is nowhere easy)

Pretty much what sora said and to add in - you only get fairies and plat armours as rewards, and there's a cap on how many you can get. You have to weight whether it is worth it to you or if you rather farm normal stuff instead. Subjugations are in no way necessary other than getting some fodder that you can easily grind up on dailies.

Also, it runs for 4 weeks if they do the same as DMM, with other events coming later to run alongside it. It's something to throw charisma at when you have excess.

switch

05-17-2016, 05:18 AM

Deffs needs go hard if we get the happy subjugation aha

ZeroZet

05-17-2016, 05:56 AM

1531 souls, exactly where I wanted it to end.
Given himself a celebratory premium summon, see a green light of platinum! Thinks "Woo, Anelia, please be Anelia!". Light fades to reveal... Cellia (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Cellia).
I know, she is a valuable drop booster, and only I lacked, so I have nothing to complain... But I soooo want to! XD
Furthermore, she also takes my minimax Imelia's place in Awakening queue. Oh well.