need advice for team developement

[Unregistered]

As the title say, I'm in dire need of helpful advice.I just play for, until the end of this month, 2 months long so I don't have any event unit outside of Imelia.Here's my team , sort by Rarity and level respectively:
http://imgur.com/a/FMKln
I got way too many healer while none of the DPS, and my DC condition is nowhere near enough to have Spica yet, currently focusing on the event.So I hope for advices on how should I develope my team, by spending SC to PS or to wait for Anna(rumored to be next event).

[soranokira]

looks like a decent setup for early game. I guess you should work on Olivie, Elaine, Imelia, bernard and a 2nd mage (hope you can get pallis), more or less in that order. I'd say save your SCs until you have 50 for the stamp card, and either roll or expand slots (expanding is recommended over rolling because of hoarding silvers and fairies for efficient leveling and AW'ing in the future). Whenever you get spica, I'd slot her after Olivie and before Elaine.

units are generally considered usable at 50cc40, but I'd recommend getting at least to 50cc50. olivie should get to 53 before feeding black fairies + plat armor for her leveling so you don't burn your gold.

[Unregistered X]

You have a decent starting team there, but it is still missing a few essential pieces that you'll want to fill:

1) Spica - a major component to range dps, very high priority for dcs, may even consider spending SCs on thursday daily if there's a warning that the Trading Post will change (as you definitely do not want to miss her).

2) Bernice - a super solid tank whose availability can either make or break event, consider spending on premium summon if she's a spotlight. Silver HAs won't be enough on harder maps.

While you're working on acquiring those two (or after raising them if you get them), raise up Olivie/Imelia, as those will be your primary magic/physical duelists. You will also want to raise the 2nd Iris up, because having solid healers are pretty essential (unless you get fedora). A second mage will also be good as well, but it might be better to wait for Pallis (either through the story line or via events - should be one in memento's event if we don't skip that) instead of raising a second Valerie.

[Unregistered]

looks like a decent setup for early game. I guess you should work on Olivie, Elaine, Imelia, bernard and a 2nd mage (hope you can get pallis), more or less in that order. I'd say save your SCs until you have 50 for the stamp card, and either roll or expand slots (expanding is recommended over rolling because of hoarding silvers and fairies for efficient leveling and AW'ing in the future). Whenever you get spica, I'd slot her after Olivie and before Elaine.

units are generally considered usable at 50cc40, but I'd recommend getting at least to 50cc50. olivie should get to 53 before feeding black fairies + plat armor for her leveling so you don't burn your gold.
I'm trying to save SC(though I'll gladly burn 9 more(down to 10) for Waltz) and I have already complete 50 SC for my stamp.Spica is a bit far-fetched, since my team can't do the X map and H map has terrible drop rate, at least for me( min is 0-1 and max is 2-4).Working on Elaine but even then she cant tank 3 lich at once in 500 kills, and I still cant pass BS II so Pallis is a bit out of reach as well.

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You have a decent starting team there, but it is still missing a few essential pieces that you'll want to fill:

1) Spica - a major component to range dps, very high priority for dcs, may even consider spending SCs on thursday daily if there's a warning that the Trading Post will change (as you definitely do not want to miss her).

2) Bernice - a super solid tank whose availability can either make or break event, consider spending on premium summon if she's a spotlight. Silver HAs won't be enough on harder maps.

While you're working on acquiring those two (or after raising them if you get them), raise up Olivie/Imelia, as those will be your primary magic/physical duelists. You will also want to raise the 2nd Iris up, because having solid healers are pretty essential (unless you get fedora). A second mage will also be good as well, but it might be better to wait for Pallis (either through the story line or via events - should be one in memento's event if we don't skip that) instead of raising a second Valerie.
Tks for the advice.Still even my core silver team isn't full AFF yet(only Katie, Chloris, Alissa and Soma) and time is pretty tight.

[soranokira]

BSII pretty much requires you to have strong physical dps, so having spica will be really helpful. also you can forget about X because it pretty much requires AW70 spica. farming crystal keeper H diligently was how all of us got our spica.

if you're looking for 500 kills at subjugation, you will most likely need 2 mages. check out the subjugation thread for more info, I theorized a 2 healer setup for that map which basically requires Imelia + Leeanne/Bernard and a couple of other lightning rods for the liches. you can also refer to other guide videos that use 3 healers and so on, although from what I can tell, your dps for it will be lacking regardless.

also, people shouldnt worry about not getting 500 kills in subjugation IMO. I started in DMM 5 months ago and I've not gotten even a single subjugation where I managed the full kills. pretty sure I missed 150 demon crystals that way.

[switch]

No love for Berna?

[soranokira]

No love for Berna?

none. rogues remain low priority eternally except for level 25 cypria to 1* skip castle retake (and clear RtR early). they have their uses, but they lose out to many other units in general usefulness by nature.

[switch]

still as a black wouldnt she be very useful as a low cost duelist at 14 up. surely better then a valk or bandit at 13

[Sincronic]

Actually Sora, i have to say that Berna, when awakened, is a beast. Much like Karma/Sophie, she can save the day 90% of time. :P

She has so many "chance to kill" (see pic below), that she literally one shots 4+- units in row with skill on, and i dont mean goblins, i mean heavies with 1000 def or whatnot, liches, this dancer on X map, horse riders. Just pew pew pew and all gone =)

Honestly, i kept her at lv35 for a looooong time, but then i said, fuck it, she's black, why not, got her to lv cc60, still didnt use her a lot (but i did use her). Then i said fuck it again and awakened her. Ever since then im just sitting like O.O watching how she annihilates enemies. Like cutting through butter.
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Also forgot to say, if you take in account her attack speed (which should be 1.3 i think +-) her attack, prince, and skill, she has huge attack, (if i did my math okay, 1122 damage per sec)

[ZeroZet]

And then SAW comes and she turns into hurricane of death, assassinating everybody around her with impunity. Not even fliers will be safe from her wrath (later on)!
Besides, tokenized rogues are pretty fun to have, throw at enemies without support and not care even one bit XD

[switch]

Yeah as much as people complain about assassinate and RNG. Time after time have I watched my Minerva just destroy hoards of units with it

[Sincronic]

Not sure how good her SAW is compared to normal skill, since i think it makes her lose damage or something like that :c, but ofc aoe is better.



Besides, tokenized rogues are pretty fun to have, throw at enemies without support and not care even one bit XD

Oh true, she gets that "retreat from battle if killed" like valkyries, right? (one day tho xD)

[soranokira]

valks only get that retreat from battle if killed with lecia (black valk, new event unit) is deployed.

also, berna is nice post-AW, but chances are you'd get more out of AW'ing other units e.g. clissa for her true dmg + additional stats against whatever she is dueling. and you need to remember that's only post-AW for berna to really be of any use. assassination is also not very critical late-game since chances are you can just burst dps down everything, and berna wouldn't be a very good choice for anything that can't be burst-dps downed. Majin Advents are a good example of the really good units that everybody would use, when confronted with large numbers of crazy strong mobs.

in any case, berna is just good because she's a black, but her class and stats doesnt help herself nor her class any.

[Unregistered]

BSII pretty much requires you to have strong physical dps, so having spica will be really helpful. also you can forget about X because it pretty much requires AW70 spica. farming crystal keeper H diligently was how all of us got our spica.

if you're looking for 500 kills at subjugation, you will most likely need 2 mages. check out the subjugation thread for more info, I theorized a 2 healer setup for that map which basically requires Imelia + Leeanne/Bernard and a couple of other lightning rods for the liches. you can also refer to other guide videos that use 3 healers and so on, although from what I can tell, your dps for it will be lacking regardless.

also, people shouldnt worry about not getting 500 kills in subjugation IMO. I started in DMM 5 months ago and I've not gotten even a single subjugation where I managed the full kills. pretty sure I missed 150 demon crystals that way.
my strongest acc(which is one that I "inherit" from someone else) manage to 500 kills with Dahlia, Maribel, Mehlis, Chydis, Belinda + basic unit so I dont think it should be that hard to 500 kills, but my main acc(which's only about 1 month old) only able to make it up to 490.

[soranokira]

my strongest acc(which is one that I "inherit" from someone else) manage to 500 kills with Dahlia, Maribel, Mehlis, Chydis, Belinda + basic unit so I dont think it should be that hard to 500 kills, but my main acc(which's only about 1 month old) only able to make it up to 490.

chydis + basic units = 3 healer strat. +mehlis +valerie = your 2 mages. easily managed. also I should point out that I only mentioned Imelia + leeanne/bernard is needed in addition to backup lightning rods. if you're high level enough, they might not even die and lightning rod not even necessary. your dahlia + maribel pretty much replaces Imelia and Leeanne/bernard I mentioned.

also, not everybody has units like yours (my best valk is a kerry and that's because I joined before Bashira became tutorial summon) so not sure what your point was. my theory was based on relative new players who've been playing at least since Imelia's event (which is like, this month)

[Unregistered]

chydis + basic units = 3 healer strat. +mehlis +valerie = your 2 mages. easily managed. also I should point out that I only mentioned Imelia + leeanne/bernard is needed in addition to backup lightning rods. if you're high level enough, they might not even die and lightning rod not even necessary. your dahlia + maribel pretty much replaces Imelia and Leeanne/bernard I mentioned.

also, not everybody has units like yours (my best valk is a kerry and that's because I joined before Bashira became tutorial summon) so not sure what your point was. my theory was based on relative new players who've been playing at least since Imelia's event (which is like, this month)
My bad, I should have add that even that strong acc still can't pass BS I and II(which is pretty much a gate blocker just like Castle Retake) so my point is a 2nd mage is pretty much unlikely to have for a 1-month long player(exclude gacha proablity) and even if you have many good unit, if they're not silver(and min-costed one) then they may not help in map that require tight UP management.Then again, if you're willing to pay for the buff pack, you can achieve 500 kills even with silver for a 1-month long player(which is unlikely for you to have a 3rd CCed healer, but with Imelia you can do that, even at barely CR-2).Just want to point out that even my silver team ( in the 1-month long acc) can obtain up to 490 kills then 500 kills is achieveable IF you want to spend, that's all.

[soranokira]

My bad, I should have add that even that strong acc still can't pass BS I and II(which is pretty much a gate blocker just like Castle Retake) so my point is a 2nd mage is pretty much unlikely to have for a 1-month long player(exclude gacha proablity) and even if you have many good unit, if they're not silver(and min-costed one) then they may not help in map that require tight UP management.Then again, if you're willing to pay for the buff pack, you can achieve 500 kills even with silver for a 1-month long player(which is unlikely for you to have a 3rd CCed healer, but with Imelia you can do that, even at barely CR-2).Just want to point out that even my silver team ( in the 1-month long acc) can obtain up to 490 kills then 500 kills is achieveable IF you want to spend, that's all.

2nd mage = 2nd valerie. it's possible.