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Ancarius
05-29-2016, 08:46 PM
After the whole thing with the Gathering Bug, they seem to have fixed the stamina bar in such a way, that you can abuse it.
While doing the Manyu Daily i was "lucky" enough to get 4 wooden chests. Before finishing the mission i thought if it would be possible to restart the mission, so i terminated the Firefox Process in the task manager.

To my surprised it worked. It seems the Stamina only gets used, when you finish a mission, originally it was used when you started it. This can be potetially be used to reroll the outcome of a mission.

I give a small warning out, that it might not work for other people. I myself only tried it 2 times, with success, but still.
Would be interesting to know, if other people also tried it and if it worked or not.

soranokira
05-29-2016, 08:48 PM
you do realize this is bug abuse and you can be banned for it?

Zandel
05-29-2016, 11:08 PM
Was wondering when someone would be stupid enough to post about this.... took far longer then I expected tho. gratz nutaku community, I underestimated you.

thewind32
05-29-2016, 11:24 PM
Was wondering when someone would be stupid enough to post about this.... took far longer then I expected tho.

My thoughts exactly lol

Unregistered
05-30-2016, 05:56 AM
You might as well make sure you properly file a report now, or hope they don't investigate their logs too deep.
http://www.nutaku.net/support/game-inquiries/

ZOLANTON
05-30-2016, 06:25 AM
Ahahaha, now that you actually posted about it, Nutaku'll probably fix it. Now sit back and watch the abusers burn with hatred.

Unregistered
05-30-2016, 07:33 AM
There is a somewhat "legit" benefit to this though. If your game crashes, which I do seem to suffer about once every two-three days, you won't have lost your stamina. Ideally, if they fix it, they make it like Hitsuji Chronicle, where you get the option to continue almost exactly where you left.

Ancarius
05-30-2016, 07:58 AM
Oh wow, never thought it was bad to make people aware of a bug that shouldn't be there in the first place. :I

Tenhou
05-30-2016, 08:01 AM
Making others aware of things so that they can abuse it themselves is not really what you should do.

Instead, report the bug to nutaku so they can work on fixing it.

This whole deal comes from the fact that they made stamina only be used up when a mission finishes to begin with and they are actively monitoring to only allow a certain amount of resets per hour/day/whatever before they consider it abuse rather than a random disconnect.

thewind32
05-30-2016, 08:02 AM
I believe that way it is now was due to compensate for system instability initially where players were getting errors / crashes regularly? Can't remember. But honestly though, can they prove that people are abusing the system and not actually reconnecting due to a spotty wi-fi connection or actual browser crashes etc? Would be nice if it becomes the way the post by unregistered above suggested though.


to only allow a certain amount of resets per hour/day/whatever before they consider it abuse rather than a random disconnect.
Oh I wasn't aware of that. Looks like this isn't much of an exploit then

Ancarius
05-30-2016, 08:17 AM
Wrote them 2 tickets, one with the exploit and one with possible Feedback of why people fall back to save scumming in the first place.
The chance to even spawn wooden Chests in every 80 Stamina Daily (except Gold Rush) and the existence of 3* in every Premiumgacha.
When people try to abuse a system then yes, sometimes they are people who just want rewards as quick and easy as it gets, but sometimes the games mechanics lure you into that trap. Which can be fixed, seen as they fixed some things in the past and are apparently vocal in the Discord Channel.

And yes maybe it was bad to post about, never thought other people knew about it. But better to talk about it and make other people aware of what can happen. I don't think a large portion of the overall community visits this forum. And multiple tickets attract more attention than a single one.

sniddy
05-30-2016, 09:20 AM
I'm torn on the 3*s in premium Gacha

When starting they're OK and giving players too many 4*'s early would be a little too much...

I would say something like when you hit level 50 they go away but then you'd never be sensible spending gems before 50

A super premium spin maybe at 7 gems would seem a nice middle ground....maybe no 10+1 to really make the 50 spin a gamble at 4.5 gems a spin, and the premium your 'safe' bet when starting to get a few 4's, then when they're meaningless do you keep spinning for the 4*'s and likely skill up or equip up fodder....or gamble for 5's and 6's

Save scumming for 'good' results takes some of the fun away, and if it leads to penalising me for those odd times my net decides not to play ball that's not great.

Rupturez
05-30-2016, 09:32 AM
Well I did use it twice to get 3 medals on ?-4, 120 stamina for your girls to take the wrong pathing is incredibly punishing.

Would be pretty lame if I get banned for using it twice though.

soranokira
05-30-2016, 10:33 AM
by making this post, you also happened to inform potential bug abusers who did not know about this in the first place, so now you're effectively introducing bug abusers to nutaku fkg. especially when you mentioned that you did it on purpose on the 1st page, which equates to abusing the bug pretty much. If you wanted the bug fixed, simply sending a game support ticket about it would've sufficed, no need to inform the community.

ideally, the community should NEVER know of any methods where a bug can be abused.

Unregistered
05-30-2016, 01:14 PM
Just remember RNG-sama is always watching