250 flower gems used

[hahaha]

Nothing better than a 4*, pretty much it for me :mad:

[JessMini]

I don't know what to write here to lessen your pain, but.. all I can say is I know the feeling (not quite 250, but I still know the frustration).

[Unregistered]

hey bro iv seen a guy spend ++1000 flower till he got his 6 stars so good luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCb1FP_MCl8
i have bad luck as well 50 flowers and i get 11 3 stars so yeah ...

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2 days ago i wasted 50 flower gems and i got all fucking copper and 1 shitty silver FEELSFUCKINGBADMAN WITH A WEAPON OF MASSIVE DESTRUCTION

[Ericridge]

Gacha is time based system. Don't blow all your gems in a minute. Its what time based gacha wants. Always learn how the pulling system works before you invest money. Otherwise you'll be super angry and feel robbed.

[Ikki]

Gacha is time based system. Don't blow all your gems in a minute. Its what time based gacha wants. Always learn how the pulling system works before you invest money. Otherwise you'll be super angry and feel robbed.

what do you mean by time based system, not spend all the flower gems at once? like roll 50 gems , get shitty loot, wait some time and then roll again another 50?

[Kamakiri]

"Time based", how can you prove this? Do you have access to information we don't have? :o

For me it's just pure fantaisy till you can back up your words with something more solid than just some observations ;)

[Ericridge]

Dunno, just heard someone say its time based so all my evidence is based on hearsay. I don't really care enough to confirm at the moment. My luck is terrible on average so I end up not giving a shit anyways. Just mentioned it because it might make you guys care enough to understand what kind of engine the gacha is running on and find out. Hopefully mention it here so I get to know what kind of engine without any work on my part.

If you guys don't want to that's fine to me either way.

[Rupturez]

hey bro iv seen a guy spend ++1000 flower till he got his 6 stars so good luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCb1FP_MCl8
i have bad luck as well 50 flowers and i get 11 3 stars so yeah ...

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2 days ago i wasted 50 flower gems and i got all fucking copper and 1 shitty silver FEELSFUCKINGBADMAN WITH A WEAPON OF MASSIVE DESTRUCTION

I would still say the guy in the youtube video has above average luck, on average he nearly pulls a gold every single pull. That said, what a gigantic amount of cash wasted Oo

[Zerana]

hey bro iv seen a guy spend ++1000 flower till he got his 6 stars so good luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCb1FP_MCl8
i have bad luck as well 50 flowers and i get 11 3 stars so yeah ...

All those gems and there were some really bad rolls. Just makes me hate the game's RNG even more. lol. Also...big waste of money, but I will say that girl did look awesome.

[Miu]

Omg that guy has a full team of rainbows... imagine how much he spent.

[Unregistered]

Been there, done that. I myself have spent 250 gems also and got no 5* too so I know how you feel bro, you just have to let it go *pat pat* Things will get better eventually (at least thats what i thought)

[MiqDoloran]

Just wait for Nutaku to cash in on people's desperations and pay for the guaranteed 6*, it'd probably save you cash compared to buying gems.

[zathosi]

I am a premium player, but recently, after many horrible gacha rolls, I have decided to stop buying gems for this game. With all the back-to-back events that we have, we will have a full harem (um...army) of 5* girls in maybe 5-6 months. This will make 93,5% of rolls from the premium gacha a complete waste and garbage.

I find it strange that the premium gacha mechanics, the primary incentive for buying gems, have so bad odds. It is so bad that it have convinces me to become a freemium player. I will maybe buy gems for these guaranted 6* or 5*, but I will not longer flush my money on their gacha, only use free flower gems from events and log-in card on it.

[Kamakiri]

Well they seem to have to follow DMM patern, will be better later in lot of points. They already added some gacha with really good rates for specific 6* and 5*.

[kojaku]

I agree too. (I'm a free player). In the end, it's not going to be much of a difference between any kind of player type. Even if future event girls seem purposely weaker (things like +7% atk up instead of 10 like orchid), the lvl 5 skill and 4 equips can probaby offset that weaknesses, potencially making getting 5* from gatcha pretty worthless.

So in the end, about expending in gatcha, i would go with a "collector" approach rather than a power gameing one. Just try to get the unit you want for whatever reason like cool art, sexual fetishs, relaxing voice, whatever, be it hoarding or directly buying. And just be happy if you get her, or groan in pain wasting 105 gems in a 5* just to be bashfully rejected. ;_;

Of course, there's also the option of power gaming by getting 20 6*, but i would rather buy me a house with such a high investment.

[Unregistered]

I also had a poor run of Gem Pulls I did 3x 50 gem pulls and had only received some 4*, I don't remember the exact number now but think I worked out I was just under average based on %. My most recent pull got me a 5* not one I had been chasing (a character quest one) but at least it was one.

I'm now thinking I'll be saving my gems for the future... power creep should see better girls appearing further down the line.

[Peach692]

Don't get discouraged, the odds are indeed sucky, but it'll happen sometime. i've been playing since day 1 as a free player and I believe i've done 6 or 7 10+1 pulls so far and I had never got a single 5* until my last pull where I got 3 at once! :D
So I guess the lesson is: don't get your hopes up everytime you're about to draw from the premim gacha but keep playing and trying and eventually it'll happen. Also, note that buying gems is a very poor investment since it won't garner you anything for sure, so I'd tell you to not waste your money.


I am a premium player, but recently, after many horrible gacha rolls, I have decided to stop buying gems for this game. With all the back-to-back events that we have, we will have a full harem (um...army) of 5* girls in maybe 5-6 months. This will make 93,5% of rolls from the premium gacha a complete waste and garbage.


^ this

[Pimers]

When I see I have 5 FG and for fun I tell my friend to roll for me and I got a rainbow I laugh hard x)

[WizAnon]

Omg that guy has a full team of rainbows... imagine how much he spent.

Not much, only $3-4k on average per squad (5 character) of rainbows if he buys the flower gems in bulks. Non-bulk + single rolls would average about $1000 per unit.

[Discoceris]

Dunno, just heard someone say its time based so all my evidence is based on hearsay. I don't really care enough to confirm at the moment. My luck is terrible on average so I end up not giving a shit anyways. Just mentioned it because it might make you guys care enough to understand what kind of engine the gacha is running on and find out. Hopefully mention it here so I get to know what kind of engine without any work on my part.

If you guys don't want to that's fine to me either way.

The internet isn't a good source for facts. Anecdotes are just that ... stories. Unless someone backs a claim up with evidence, it's just hearsay, or in other words, complete bullshit.

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Not much, only $3-4k on average per squad (5 character) of rainbows if he buys the flower gems in bulks. Non-bulk + single rolls would average about $1000 per unit.

Unless you're rich and have money coming out of every pore of your skin, $3,000 is NOT "not much". For $3,000, you could buy a fucking top-of-the-line gaming PC, or over 100 titles on Steam, etc. At that point, you're wasting money on what I would consider a crap product, designed solely to funnel cash back to DMM.

[A Time to Screw]

http://i.imgur.com/pBk2nBT.gif

[Rupturez]

http://i.imgur.com/pBk2nBT.gif

Haha now that would be amazing. I would already have a heart attack if I see it going rainbow.

[Lied]

Haha now that would be amazing. I would already have a heart attack if I see it going rainbow.

TFW you've never seen the pot turn gold except that one time an ampy popped out of the normal gacha

[Miu]

Omg, if that really happened I would think I'd used up all my luck for the rest of my life.

[Peach692]

TFW you've never seen the pot turn gold except that one time an ampy popped out of the normal gacha

haha to use up all your luck with an ampy.... the gacha god is such a troll. *sigh*

[Ericridge]

http://i.imgur.com/pBk2nBT.gif

This is nothing but a porn video for gamblers.

[sniddy]

0.000000000000488%

Compared to the odds of winning the UK national lottery

0.000004911948413%

Ye gods that's low.....

[Unregistered]

I wish I could win the lottery too but apparently the gacha system works by everyone drawing from the same pool and every 200 draws a 6 star is added so you'll only ever get one (two if the 6 star cards overlap across the 200 draws) 6-star from a draw.

At least that's what this video is trying to say.

https://youtu.be/Zlg9Mkj0KEE

Wonder if it still holds true for the nutaku version?

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I wish I could win the lottery too but apparently the gacha system works by everyone drawing from the same pool and every 200 draws a 6 star is added so you'll only ever get one (two if the 6 star cards overlap across the 200 draws) 6-star from a draw.

At least that's what this video is trying to say.

https://youtu.be/Zlg9Mkj0KEE

Wonder if it still holds true for the nutaku version?

Meant to post this video actually, but they're both related

https://youtu.be/vCb1FP_MCl8

[Distortedrealms]

I have more luck on single pulls it seems. Just now, reading this thread I thought 'I have hoarded 25 flowers, lets try for fun' 5 pulls and I get two 4* girls I was missing; Hibiscus, and Saffron Tulip, plus three shite pulls but I am more than happy. Early on I pulled a 5* Cymbidium on a single, and the other day i got a Dandelion 4* on a normal pull. Its not impossible, its just luck of the draw.

[Ammo]

Yeah, I had 36 gems and reaaally needed another slice type so I just now decided to single roll. 5th roll got Waterlily. So far that makes Cattleya, Chocolate Cosmos, and Waterlily obtained from single rolls.

[Rupturez]

I have more luck on single pulls it seems. Just now, reading this thread I thought 'I have hoarded 25 flowers, lets try for fun' 5 pulls and I get two 4* girls I was missing; Hibiscus, and Saffron Tulip, plus three shite pulls but I am more than happy. Early on I pulled a 5* Cymbidium on a single, and the other day i got a Dandelion 4* on a normal pull. Its not impossible, its just luck of the draw.

to be honest I consider everything under 5* to be a shit roll. Even if it would be 11 4*'s. You can get all 4*s from normal gacha, it's just a matter of time.

[sniddy]

I agree the 1st pull is really the only one the 4* 'matter' beyond that it's skill upgrades

[Distortedrealms]

Well, right now those 4* will go a long way to replace the 3* I have. When I have replaced all the 3* elements I will worry about the 5* but with these events happening I will soon be just cracking my skull hoping for rainbows.