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switch
07-09-2016, 04:21 PM
Getting real keen for this event hopefully they give it to us and don't for some reason be like na no event for you.

HellamongHeaven
07-10-2016, 12:35 AM
Don't jinx it.Beside we have their post as proof so they can't run from this.I expect the worst thing could happen is they change the silver unit to match that no "loli" content.

blacksaber
07-10-2016, 12:46 AM
They haven't taken over yet. So there is little chance they will let Nutaku add Misha or Nenya.

Nero010
07-10-2016, 11:09 AM
They haven't taken over yet. So there is little chance they will let Nutaku add Misha or Nenya.

True, they will in a few months so and said so explicit for Misha. I have no problem with that, every step forward is a good step... usualy :D
I think this paranoia is kinda... useless^^

Kamahari Akuma
07-10-2016, 12:03 PM
True, they will in a few months so and said so explicit for Misha. I have no problem with that, every step forward is a good step... usualy :D
I think this paranoia is kinda... useless^^

If only because pessimism and past travesties (The Great Odette Break Event) have led some people to not believe anything said by Nutaku to be true.

Thankfully that sorta changes starting tuesday.

Eab1990
07-10-2016, 03:04 PM
There's nothing to celebrate about just yet.

Remember that the event after Memento won't be up for another three weeks, and we don't even know what will be next, or when. We could easily have Odette revival 3.0, 4.0, etc. before "things improve."

Sincronic
07-10-2016, 05:32 PM
and we don't even know what will be next, or when.

Actually we do know... Valkyrie farm event somewhere around 10th of august. (not sure about exact date but you can check it up)

Eab1990
07-10-2016, 06:04 PM
Actually we do know... Valkyrie farm event somewhere around 10th of august. (not sure about exact date but you can check it up)

You should probably read the whole sentence again.

I said we DO know the event AFTER Memento (Emilia farm event), and that it'll be three weeks after (August 16).

We DON'T know what comes after that, and that's obviously a problem.

switch
07-10-2016, 06:58 PM
And 3 weeks in its self is shit ehh I mean atleast we know it's only 3 weeks. But 3 weeks is still along time without an event hopefully we get a week buff event in the middle atleast

Nero010
07-10-2016, 07:28 PM
Come on guys, arent u a little too demanding?
Obviously Nutaku wasnt responsible for the slow progress but the DMM Team that only occassionaly when they had time put effort into the english version of thier game. It was Nutaku who fought for us to get controll of the development of the english version of the game. This is nothing easy. Nothing easy at all. And now that they made it, instat of shutting down the game, they again have a lot and a ton of work in front of them to work on, to learn about the templets etc. etc. and then pack on this huge project of trying to paste up the speed and then eventuelly somehow catch up to the DMM version in a long long progress, because yes also most of the playerbase isnt developed enough to keep up with an x3 speed as the game gets significantly harder. Theres a lot to look into and a lot to talk about what they will change first, dozens of patches besides just the girls and events that arent added so maybe u guys could just keep it a little more calm with the "i want content content content content fast, faster, fastest". I mean srsly.
@Eab WE dont know what comes after an event in 1+ month future? Heck THEY propably dont know what comes after that by now. I think somehow 80% of the people here dont realise that its not Nutakus fault that event paste or whatever had been low and they arent to blame for anything but that they are just now working on trying to solve our problem that the devs in DMM dont care about.
Guess Thankfullness is something rare among the net. I like this community a lot but this attitude just sucks

HellamongHeaven
07-10-2016, 09:43 PM
Come on guys, arent u a little too demanding?
Obviously Nutaku wasnt responsible for the slow progress but the DMM Team that only occassionaly when they had time put effort into the english version of thier game. It was Nutaku who fought for us to get controll of the development of the english version of the game. This is nothing easy. Nothing easy at all. And now that they made it, instat of shutting down the game, they again have a lot and a ton of work in front of them to work on, to learn about the templets etc. etc. and then pack on this huge project of trying to paste up the speed and then eventuelly somehow catch up to the DMM version in a long long progress, because yes also most of the playerbase isnt developed enough to keep up with an x3 speed as the game gets significantly harder. Theres a lot to look into and a lot to talk about what they will change first, dozens of patches besides just the girls and events that arent added so maybe u guys could just keep it a little more calm with the "i want content content content content fast, faster, fastest". I mean srsly.
@Eab WE dont know what comes after an event in 1+ month future? Heck THEY propably dont know what comes after that by now. I think somehow 80% of the people here dont realise that its not Nutakus fault that event paste or whatever had been low and they arent to blame for anything but that they are just now working on trying to solve our problem that the devs in DMM dont care about.
Guess Thankfullness is something rare among the net. I like this community a lot but this attitude just sucks
Must agree with you there, mate.Even I have had a long time thinking that's it's Nutaku's fault that make the English version such a miserable one until someone clear it up to me about that " intern" joke.They're just a publisher and even worse, they didn't have any saying in the matter since H-game are not that much acceptable for the mass(heck, just look at Steam policy for non-H content policy).So ever since they make that post, I guess there's finally hope at the best and beside, you can always come to DMM if you want it to rush you into near-exhaustion(that daily revival leave me rarely if ever have any spare char/sta to waste) so no point in taking it out on Nutaku, who's at least trying to satisfy their customer in one of their long-live project "look at Duel Squad and Dragon's Memory Tactics" .

Eab1990
07-10-2016, 11:34 PM
Come on guys, arent u a little too demanding?
Obviously Nutaku wasnt responsible for the slow progress but the DMM Team that only occassionaly when they had time put effort into the english version of thier game. It was Nutaku who fought for us to get controll of the development of the english version of the game. This is nothing easy. Nothing easy at all. And now that they made it, instat of shutting down the game, they again have a lot and a ton of work in front of them to work on, to learn about the templets etc. etc. and then pack on this huge project of trying to paste up the speed and then eventuelly somehow catch up to the DMM version in a long long progress, because yes also most of the playerbase isnt developed enough to keep up with an x3 speed as the game gets significantly harder. Theres a lot to look into and a lot to talk about what they will change first, dozens of patches besides just the girls and events that arent added so maybe u guys could just keep it a little more calm with the "i want content content content content fast, faster, fastest". I mean srsly.
@Eab WE dont know what comes after an event in 1+ month future? Heck THEY propably dont know what comes after that by now. I think somehow 80% of the people here dont realise that its not Nutakus fault that event paste or whatever had been low and they arent to blame for anything but that they are just now working on trying to solve our problem that the devs in DMM dont care about.
Guess Thankfullness is something rare among the net. I like this community a lot but this attitude just sucks

Demanding? Thankfulness? Don't even talk to me about that.

I actually kept my mouth shut for most of Odette revival 2.0, since I had FKG (and Overwatch) to keep myself relatively busy, even if I obviously had more than my fair share of complaints. But 1.5 years later and there is literally NOTHING going for Nutaku Aigis right now.

Nutaku doesn't get credit for "keeping the game alive" if it means our event schedule is still as uncertain as ever. If that's your idea of good news, you may as well just play Kanpani, since it's in a similar boat.

Nutaku WILL get credit IF they ever compensate us for what was SUPPOSED to improve 6+ months ago: our missing units, our updated trading post, our consistent event schedule + revivals. Absolutely none of that has been delivered yet.

Don't give me that shit about not being thankful for what little insight Nutaku has given us, even if most of it isn't their fault to begin with. There is literally nothing to thank them for yet. Knowing that we're only getting two events in the span of two months isn't reassuring in the least.

Also, anyone who thinks Nutaku's slow pace compared to DMM is worth complimenting at this point is out of their fucking mind. There are people who already have full AW teams, myself included. Some people even have AW99 blacks. My account level is 225. We are ridiculously overleveled as it is. This is what my farming team looks like. Not even my main team, my farm team. Not pictured is my AW Sybilla, AW Lilia, AW Anya, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.

http://i.imgur.com/SHbPziG.jpg

Anyone who isn't at or near this point is probably too new to see just how bad Nutaku Aigis is and/or probably should've just moved to DMM anyway. The only people who should be on Nutaku now are people who are too invested and/or lazy to switch to the clearly superior version.

NotThatGuy
07-11-2016, 12:36 AM
While I agree it is a bit early to start raining thanks on Nutaku seeing as the hopeful improvements have yet to come though, I will point out that the claim we won't be getting the second mentioned event until three weeks after this next one is a bit misleading. After all, the coming event is a star rush event, which on its own takes two weeks, and then there is going to be a one week break after that before the next event. The one week break is certainly less than ideal (particularly after a star rush), but it is no three week break, and two weeks of a star rush that I can farm for silvers after clearing the maps is certainly preferable to two weeks of nothing.

Edit: Unfortunately it seems I misremembered the date of the later event, and it is in fact three weeks after the end of the one about to start.

switch
07-11-2016, 01:32 AM
i beievel the next event is on the 16th of next month thats 5 weeks away take 2 weeks for star event. leaves 3 weeks of break

Sincronic
07-11-2016, 01:46 AM
You should probably read the whole sentence again.

I said we DO know the event AFTER Memento (Emilia farm event), and that it'll be three weeks after (August 16).

We DON'T know what comes after that, and that's obviously a problem.

Ah sry, brain didn't register that 3 week part. But still, not even nutaku can predict stuff 2 months ahead, wait for the news until valkyrie event starts/finishes.

HellamongHeaven
07-11-2016, 02:15 AM
i beievel the next event is on the 16th of next month thats 5 weeks away take 2 weeks for star event. leaves 3 weeks of break
It "could" be 3 weeks of breaks but with various addtion such as implement new unit and at the very least, change spotlight unit.Honestly I'm looking forward to have Mischa, Elaine just ain't that useful(I trade her for Niel, at least she's useful as a lightning rod and gatekeeper).

Ericridge
07-11-2016, 02:58 AM
Well, I started 1-2 months ago, and this is my main team. Only can hope I can tackle the memento maps and valkyrie's contract.

http://i.imgur.com/wQvfaxb.jpg

Its alright I suppose, that 1.5x drop for story missions really accelerated the development of my main story very fast. I gained like 128 levels on my units. All from level 30 to 60 on evolved units.

HellamongHeaven
07-11-2016, 03:31 AM
Well, I started 1-2 months ago, and this is my main team. Only can hope I can tackle the memento maps and valkyrie's contract.

http://i.imgur.com/wQvfaxb.jpg

Its alright I suppose, that 1.5x drop for story missions really accelerated the development of my main story very fast. I gained like 128 levels on my units. All from level 30 to 60 on evolved units.
You will need at least 3(or even 4) healers and 3 duelist for the 7th mission on memento's event so I suggest you lv Imelia fast, and another duelist as well.Also, if you have to spare, exchange Elaine for Niel, she's a godsend lightning for a silver.Addtionally, prioritize Yuyu over Chloris if you can only focus on one.Also, map 5 in memento event IIRC you will need at least 2 CCed mage for it.

Eab1990
07-11-2016, 04:05 AM
While I agree it is a bit early to start raining thanks on Nutaku seeing as the hopeful improvements have yet to come though, I will point out that the claim we won't be getting the second mentioned event until three weeks after this next one is a bit misleading. After all, the coming event is a star rush event, which on its own takes two weeks, and then there is going to be a one week break after that before the next event. The one week break is certainly less than ideal (particularly after a star rush), but it is no three week break, and two weeks of a star rush that I can farm for silvers after clearing the maps is certainly preferable to two weeks of nothing.

Uh, what?

Daughter of the King of the Dead: 07/12/2016 - 07/26/2016
The Valkyrie’s Contract: 08/16/2016 - 08/23/2016

Where are you getting "one week break" from?

NotThatGuy
07-11-2016, 04:40 AM
i beievel the next event is on the 16th of next month thats 5 weeks away take 2 weeks for star event. leaves 3 weeks of break

Uh, what?

Daughter of the King of the Dead: 07/12/2016 - 07/26/2016
The Valkyrie’s Contract: 08/16/2016 - 08/23/2016

Where are you getting "one week break" from?
Well, taking another look at the announcement, it seems you are both correct while I had misremembered the latter date. Unfortunate, though it is far from the worst break we've had and at least has a set end in sight. Hopefully there will be some form of added content such as the other Eastern Wind story maps or at least another boosted drop rate week.

switch
07-11-2016, 03:16 PM
Eric if i was you i would do as far as you can on event maps. then leave the rest untill the last 2 days of events gives you 2 weeks of lvling if you need certan silvers obvs do the maps that have them. but dont forget there might be a story map aswell that you missed the silver thats worth going back and doing.

kayfabe
07-11-2016, 07:28 PM
I kinda hope these maps will be interesting but I'm not getting my hopes up too much. I have Awakened versions of Syb-chan, Sophie, Elizabeth and Thetis so I think it's more likely that my harem is just going to wreck face.

Tenhou
07-12-2016, 05:02 AM
Well, cleared the first 4 maps and did 3 summons with the SC i had available. Got a Sophie. This is not the Flamel i was looking for, buying more SC it is.

Nero010
07-12-2016, 05:38 AM
I think someone here should reread my post. I didnt say theres a lot we have to be thankfull for. What ur post clearly indicates is that u still blame everything on nutaku while at the same time u...

slyyr
07-12-2016, 05:41 AM
Another long break to come?!? I better make hay while the sun shines and farm the crap out of silvers I need for awakening. IF the game will let them drop.

For the mid-length players like myself the breaks have made progress devastatingly slow. By comparison DMM feels like its gone into overdrive with the revivals and is awesome! Resource management is very important and you have to strategise beyond the event and farming resources.

Its not like they don't have a buttload of content to draw from DMM, even if most players can't complete all maps. You can still do well on the earlier ones and gather resources. Players don't necessarily need to 3 star everything now to enjoy the game. Besides we wil lget revivals eventually and can access it again then.

Eab1990
07-12-2016, 05:50 AM
I think someone here should reread my post. I didnt say theres a lot we have to be thankfull for. What ur post clearly indicates is that u still blame everything on nutaku while at the same time u dont get that they are like zero resposible for the content that we got up until now. I said we have to be thankfull for nutaku to fight for our interests and take over a game whichs original devs at DMM dont care about and only update it on thier spare time when thier japanese version of the game leaves them the time. Ur whole post is screaming "im frustrated about the paste (absolutly understandable at this point) and blame everything on the first label i see print over the game even if they dont have any control of what content we get (not understandable). Theres nothing to be thankfull to nutaku yet that they did, BUT the mere fact that they took things in thier hands to solve what WE want, because the lonley little intern in DMM responsible for our version of the game doesnt do it.
Hands down.
Your not only blaming the wrong people letting your anger out on them you and a few others also dont care to think at least a minute about that nutaku never had to do the step to try to take over the game and just leave it in DMMs hands or shut it down cause the owners over there in japan dont care. Your litelary yelling at the peopels that try to fix the problems you want solved and that they didnt cause.

No shit, I was around for the first time Dev Tea pulled this shit, and was momentarily thankful that Nutaku convinced them to add auto-complete.

But that was almost a year ago. Nutaku does not get excused for letting things fall this far AGAIN. Just because they're picking up the slack themselves now doesn't mean I can't blame them for taking this long to fix something that has been an issue for well over a year.

Where were they when we told them about the complete lack of a trading post update? The supposed greenlit units that should've been here months ago? It's only because we haven't had an event in two months, PLUS the fact that two other games closed that they finally spoke up about their plans for the game's future.

Their silence on the matter hasn't made any improvements. That's entirely enough reason to give them at least partial blame for what has happened.

Nero010
07-12-2016, 06:00 AM
No shit, I was around for the first time Dev Tea pulled this shit, and was momentarily thankful that Nutaku convinced them to add auto-complete.

But that was almost a year ago. Nutaku does not get excused for letting things fall this far AGAIN. Just because they're picking up the slack themselves now doesn't mean I can't blame them for taking this long to fix something that has been an issue for well over a year.

Where were they when we told them about the complete lack of a trading post update? The supposed greenlit units that should've been here months ago? It's only because we haven't had an event in two months, PLUS the fact that two other games closed that they finally spoke up about their plans for the game's future.

Their silence on the matter hasn't made any improvements. That's entirely enough reason to give them at least partial blame for what has happened.

Well i wont say that your completely wrong. I guess until a certian point u do have the right to feel salty. I personaly just see no reason to be pessimistic on that object and get frustrated seeing people "cry" over content while this time it had been announced that the content is coming at this paste and even an very good explanation why, because they take over and intent to add a lot content that were lacking, neither way your looking at it its just not humanly possible to do it any better or faster right now. So better do it now, better do it right, then never. Past cant be changed. Thank mother nature for that law. Im only interested in the future and i give them the go to look at them with a white vest from now on and evaluate them from what they do from now on. Even though that might be easier for me then for you as im not as long around (and the long breaks where actualy partialy helpfull for me but that doesnt matter, it was for some, for some not).

SabishiiRyuu
07-12-2016, 06:07 AM
Well, cleared the first 4 maps and did 3 summons with the SC i had available. Got a Sophie. This is not the Flamel i was looking for, buying more SC it is.

I am extremely envious of you. Sophie is my most wanted unit. Just rolled and got a Cellia. I know she's useful for farming spirits but I want mai waifu :(

IvanLedah21
07-12-2016, 06:48 AM
@EAB - You even mentioned in your first post ""Don't give me that shit about not being thankful for what little insight Nutaku has given us, even if most of it isn't their fault to begin with." and then continue to rant? Yes, it would have been great for them to fight to take over a year ago, or even 6 months, whatever. Can't change it now, they're doing what they can and I'm willing to give them the benefit of some time to finalize the take-over before I start judging. This is coming from someone who has Awakened quite a few units including Sophie, Despara, Nanaly, Sybilla, Aisha and Minerva.

As for the event maps, went in blind to the first 5 and wrecked them all with my team of AW units lol. Will have to wait until after work to see how the last two go, but not expecting too much trouble with my team.

Eab1990
07-12-2016, 07:02 AM
Not giving them credit for what should've been done 6-12 months ago =/= Being thankful (or not being thankful) that they're doing anything to begin wtih <br />
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Let me reiterate. There is NOTHING Nutaku...

Asdf1
07-12-2016, 07:21 AM
@Eab I feel the same way as you. The news they posted was merely a reiteration of what they said they would do months ago and until now were still waiting. I will play this version till end of September and hope for the best but if nothing happens then I might as well not waste my time. As a side note haven't seen Lafate in the forums, did he quit?

Eab1990
07-12-2016, 08:09 AM
He showed up on ULMF recently, so he'll probably be around sometime... maybe.

Tenhou
07-12-2016, 08:21 AM
Might have just "quit HBC."

I know sora did that.

Talith
07-12-2016, 09:23 AM
Man they really half assed the translation this time.

Eab1990
07-12-2016, 09:51 AM
The translation's been half-assed for a while.

Half-assing the banner though, that's a new low for them.

lolix
07-12-2016, 09:52 AM
i was wondering why nobody was arguing with nobody here. This must be why.

Can't say i'll miss him much tho

Edit : obv not talking about lafate

Ramazan
07-12-2016, 11:28 AM
Any confirmed drop list?

YoxalLoyal
07-12-2016, 11:56 AM
Any confirmed drop list?

At the English wiki page: http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Daughter_of_the_King_of_the_Dead

There's no Mischa and Nenya drops if you were curious.

Masterwolf
07-13-2016, 01:42 AM
@EAB1990 Do you not understand how negotiations work? When Nutaku got them to add the auto complete that was them getting a concession from the developer that at that time did not want to give up control of the English version of the game. This time they have convinced the Japanese developers to cede control of updates to Nutaku, which means they can for once control the games output. Something they couldn't do before. You rail against Nutaku like they were responsible for the lack of updates when they in fact had no control. They now have been given control so we need to give them a little time to see if they carry through on the promises they made.

Nero010
07-13-2016, 02:38 AM
i was wondering why nobody was arguing with nobody here. This must be why.

Can't say i'll miss him much tho

Edit : obv not talking about lafate

I never got to talk to him and that kinda makes me sad, his guides and super fast updates on events made the game feel more alive for me as a beginner and made things a lot easier back then. I dont need that much of a child sitting anymore, but newer players propably do they dont know how and where to find stuff on thier own. Sigh, i hope he gets back. He made stuff like a proffessional lol.

lolix
07-13-2016, 02:48 AM
as i said , i wasn't talking about lafate. And newbies can still get help here. But they have to ask first now.

Nero010
07-13-2016, 03:43 AM
I know, just wanted to share my feelings

btw. maintainance just got changed from 5:30am EDT to 6:30am EDT lol, i was hoping to do the thuesdays orb map one more time now that i found a way to beat it with my team but looks like maintainance lasts until wednesday starts in aigis, i need one more valk orb for sherry :<

IvanLedah21
07-13-2016, 07:10 AM
OK so I misread your post. My apologies. It came across like a raging rant, which I suppose it kind of was, but this post makes it clearer you're just saying &quot;it's too early to be praising them,...

Eab1990
07-13-2016, 07:18 AM
I know how messy negotiations can get.

But the point is, I have little confidence and zero reason to be optimistic when we don't even know what's coming after Emilia or when.

And then we have shit like Nutaku asking on Twitter "what kind of UNIQUE ENGLISH AIGIS UNIT would you like to see from which artist", despite the fact that there are obviously more pressing matters, and their track record on Nutaku-exclusive units isn't great to begin with. Stuff like that certainly doesn't help their case.

IvanLedah21
07-13-2016, 07:22 AM
I know how messy negotiations can get.

But the point is, I have little confidence and zero reason to be optimistic when we don't even know what's coming after Emilia or when.

And then we have shit like Nutaku asking on Twitter "what kind of UNIQUE ENGLISH AIGIS UNIT would you like to see from which artist", despite the fact that there are obviously more pressing matters, and their track record on Nutaku-exclusive units isn't great to begin with. Stuff like that certainly doesn't help their case.

Fair enough. the stance "Give me a reason to believe in you again, Nutaku" is solid, given their past track record. Not on Twitter and did not know they were asking questions like that. Rather than make uniquely English units, how about bringing over some of those excluded units/more recently introduced units, huh?

Nero010
07-13-2016, 08:53 AM
Fair enough. the stance "Give me a reason to believe in you again, Nutaku" is solid, given their past track record. Not on Twitter and did not know they were asking questions like that. Rather than make uniquely English units, how about bringing over some of those excluded units/more recently introduced units, huh?

They already stated that they will do that (and especialy named misha). Why not ask at spare time or during a work break via twitter for an nutaku exclusive unit now that they can do something like that? Doesnt mean itll happen but more like someone found the time to ask around for that. And of course they try to please us with using some benefits and swagg "hey u will get something special too". Theres realy no reason arguing about that.

Eab1990
07-13-2016, 09:01 AM
Mischa was greenlit several months ago. That didn't stop the devs from endlessly replacing her with Elaine. It shouldn't have reached the point that they have to step in for that much, but here we are.

If we can't take Nutaku's word at face value for something as simple as that, then the complaints should continue.

(I will kindly shut my mouth if they promise to let me replace my Liana with black Iris. And maybe Deine with Dina.)

ZeroZet
07-13-2016, 09:37 AM
Hey! Leave Deine out of it! That mecha is only unit I actually won't want to replace with a petite counterpart.

Getting the oneechan in addition, to complement her imouto, on the other hand... XD

Eab1990
07-13-2016, 09:38 AM
Well, I have two Deines, so...