[DMM] Mononofu ~ White Lily Battle Princesses ~

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If you undo an inheritance to give the general a different one, does the old one disappear forever? I really want to switch the ability my takenaka has, but I can't afford to lose the old skill i gave her completely, since i only have 3 lvl 55's atm.

You get back the old general, and at level 55, even. Any class changes that the old general had seem to be gone, however. For Takenaka Hanbei, you want to use the "usually doesn't die in the first several rounds" skill.

To answer the EVO card question, no, the new event doesn't give out the missing EVO card piece.

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anyone knows which time daimyo summons bosses at 2nd server?trying to catch it but cant..... + should he just post info in cabinet lol?XD

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anyone knows which time daimyo summons bosses at 2nd server?trying to catch it but cant..... + should he just post info in cabinet lol?XD

For me DwB was always around 8 or 9 am Pacific time or along side the regular wB. Well daiymo changed this week.

[Lord Grim]

I just started playing this game last week yet i can say that i am doing pretty well due to the trainer's dungeon event, but i am having trouble choosing which tank i should use and lvl up.
there are two choices i got which are "CHA" and "ASHIKAGA YOSHIAKI". skillwise i know i should choose ashikaga but cha has stronger stats and makes one of GOH's(one of my generals)skills even stronger which is lifesteal from 10% to 20% and i can't seem to choose which one i should use. please give me your suggestions and tell me if there are other options to choose for a tank except those with rank UR/SSR because they are so fucking hard to get but if you can't think of any then i think a SSR general suggestion is alright. oh and by the way my general lineup are GOH, AKECHI MITSUHIDE, ASHIKAGA YOSHITERU, DEMON OF THE SIX HEAVENS, and the fifth which is my tank is still undecided. and those 4 generals are lvl 35 with the exeption of GOH which is lvl 45. soooo please help me in my problem , thanks.

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I just started playing this game last week yet i can say that i am doing pretty well due to the trainer's dungeon event, but i am having trouble choosing which tank i should use and lvl up.
there are two choices i got which are "CHA" and "ASHIKAGA YOSHIAKI". skillwise i know i should choose ashikaga but cha has stronger stats and makes one of GOH's(one of my generals)skills even stronger which is lifesteal from 10% to 20% and i can't seem to choose which one i should use. please give me your suggestions and tell me if there are other options to choose for a tank except those with rank UR/SSR because they are so fucking hard to get but if you can't think of any then i think a SSR general suggestion is alright. oh and by the way my general lineup are GOH, AKECHI MITSUHIDE, ASHIKAGA YOSHITERU, DEMON OF THE SIX HEAVENS, and the fifth which is my tank is still undecided. and those 4 generals are lvl 35 with the exeption of GOH which is lvl 45. soooo please help me in my problem , thanks.

If im not wrong the 2 most used SR tanks would be Ashikaga Yoshiaki and Naoe Kagestuna. Naturally if you have Toyotomi Hideyoshi (SSR) you would use Nene (R) as a tank. Ive only been playing around 3 weeks so dont know to much about best generals. Just watch other players fights and pay attention to what they use and who they inherit. Also new players just focus on completing Achievements as soon as possible when you get the ticket to choose a UR general Tiger of Kai can help cheese through most of early game. Every day at least 6 gold/silver tickets each your bound to get better generals in time.

[Semaphore]

I just started playing this game last week yet i can say that i am doing pretty well due to the trainer's dungeon event, but i am having trouble choosing which tank i should use and lvl up.
there are two choices i got which are "CHA" and "ASHIKAGA YOSHIAKI". skillwise i know i should choose ashikaga but cha has stronger stats and makes one of GOH's(one of my generals)skills even stronger which is lifesteal from 10% to 20% and i can't seem to choose which one i should use. please give me your suggestions and tell me if there are other options to choose for a tank except those with rank UR/SSR because they are so fucking hard to get but if you can't think of any then i think a SSR general suggestion is alright. oh and by the way my general lineup are GOH, AKECHI MITSUHIDE, ASHIKAGA YOSHITERU, DEMON OF THE SIX HEAVENS, and the fifth which is my tank is still undecided. and those 4 generals are lvl 35 with the exeption of GOH which is lvl 45. soooo please help me in my problem , thanks.

There's a lot to unpack here, so let's get to it.

First of all, Demon King of the Six Heavens is pretty useless. That's not to say that you should drop her right this moment, but you should realize that you're going to want to ditch her soon. She's UR rarity, which you might think is good, but that's actually bad, as it means you basically can't evolve her. You will occasionally get UR EVO or Universal EVO cards, but those are precious and need to be saved for use on much stronger generals, mainly Tiger of Kai and Master Strategist at the moment, though other very strong UR generals will probably release in the future.

When you're leveling up SR generals, it's important to focus on generals that have skills that will be useful to inherit later. That way, once you get your sixth general to level 55, you can immediately benefit from having more than five by inheriting a skill. When you do that, you want it to be a useful skill that you inherit, not some random garbage.

The SR general skills that will remain useful for the longest are the healing ones, mainly Naoe Kagetsuna, Honganji Kennyo, Ashikaga Yoshiaki, and Otomo Yoshishige. The +15% attack and defense skills remain useful for quite a while, too, though they eventually become obsolete due to the presence of Takeda Shingen of Kai. Many SR generals have only garbage skills and leveling them up is a huge waste of resources.

Longer term, the four generals that you want right now are:

UR Tiger of Kai
UR Master Strategist
SSR Sanada Yukitaka
SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai

You might say, oh, well those are hard to get. But so are the EVO cards to evolve SSR and especially UR generals, so save them for the generals that you really want rather than wasting them on less useful generals.

It's also important to realize that tanks are less important than you probably think they are. Once you scale up your damage, tanks and healing really end up only useful for beating reflect-heavy enemies, especially if you're trying to get an A for full evaluation. If your battles end in two rounds, that's not enough time to get much benefit from healing.

And battles do end fast, even at top end PVE. For example, the best non-convoy campaign farming is probably the sixth and seventh opponents of map 6-4, as they drop both curse fragments and gold tickets. Even there, on what is literally the very last map of the campaign, battles still only take me two rounds. If you're hoping to drag something out and win over the course of five rounds, you're going to be dead first, as your opponents have about 35000 attack.

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Can anyone tell me what is the main difference between the two servers?

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Can anyone tell me what is the main difference between the two servers?

One server was released a couple of weeks before the other, and each player is on one server and not the other. On the first server, it generally takes me 3-4 battles to reach the round of 32 in the daimyo tournament, which would mean somewhere in the range of 256-512 active players if you regard signing up for the tournament as the definition of active. I have no clue what the second server population is like.

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Can anyone tell me what is the main difference between the two servers?

It's a 'wartune' style of attempt to get even more cash out of an otherwise dying(payment wise) game.

Since game is competitive and you can't do anything competitive if you are a few weeks(sometimes even days) below the others.. such type of games usually keep releasing new servers for an active cash flow(so new players who want to try the game can become competitive... and paying cash means you can be even more competitive)

This results in game slowly dying until a little more than 1 active guild remains who simply can't leave because they spent either 1000s of $ or half a year on it already.

The only way for such game to survive is to keep releasing pay only content which actually helps with being competitive(like exclusive equipment/girls) or release new servers, which pretty much guarantees you get a decent cash flow again.

They can later merge servers because 'unpopular' and keep releasing new ones... merge them... rince and repeat.

[Semaphore]

It's a 'wartune' style of attempt to get even more cash out of an otherwise dying(payment wise) game.

Since game is competitive and you can't do anything competitive if you are a few weeks(sometimes even days) below the others.. such type of games usually keep releasing new servers for an active cash flow(so new players who want to try the game can become competitive... and paying cash means you can be even more competitive)

This results in game slowly dying until a little more than 1 active guild remains who simply can't leave because they spent either 1000s of $ or half a year on it already.

The only way for such game to survive is to keep releasing pay only content which actually helps with being competitive(like exclusive equipment/girls) or release new servers, which pretty much guarantees you get a decent cash flow again.

They can later merge servers because 'unpopular' and keep releasing new ones... merge them... rince and repeat.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Or perhaps rather, while your comments could plausibly be true for Wartune (which I've never played, so I have no idea), they're wildly wrong for Mononofu.

Mononofu has two servers, and only two. The second server was released a couple of weeks after the first. Those are the only two servers to ever exist, at least on the English language version, and there have never been server mergers.

Mononofu does not have guilds at all, whether active or otherwise.

While it's true that a new player won't be competitive in PVP for a while, it's also possible to just ignore that and treat it as a PVE game. Nearly all of the content is PVE, after all. You'll lose the daimyo tournament if you enter, which you might as well, since you get 50k copper just for showing up. You'll sometimes lose 1/4 of your loot from being raided in a port exploration, but that happens a lot to the very top players, too. And you probably won't rank very highly in the slight rewards given for the ranked match ladder and daily world bosses, but the main reward from the daily world bosses is the convoys that pretty much everyone gets to clear, including people who just started yesterday.

If you're a new player hoping to be competitive in PVP, it will take you several months to catch up--but you absolutely can catch up, with only the exception that you'll always trail a level or so behind in lab skills. Events that you missed will be repeated, and some players are up against the level cap of 65 right now, so you're only gaining on us in general levels, building levels, and equipment forging levels.

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Or perhaps rather, while your comments could plausibly be true for Wartune (which I've never played, so I have no idea), they're wildly wrong for Mononofu.

Mononofu has two servers, and only two. The second server was released a couple of weeks after the first. Those are the only two servers to ever exist, at least on the English language version, and there have never been server mergers.

Mononofu does not have guilds at all, whether active or otherwise.

While it's true that a new player won't be competitive in PVP for a while, it's also possible to just ignore that and treat it as a PVE game. Nearly all of the content is PVE, after all. You'll lose the daimyo tournament if you enter, which you might as well, since you get 50k copper just for showing up. You'll sometimes lose 1/4 of your loot from being raided in a port exploration, but that happens a lot to the very top players, too. And you probably won't rank very highly in the slight rewards given for the ranked match ladder and daily world bosses, but the main reward from the daily world bosses is the convoys that pretty much everyone gets to clear, including people who just started yesterday.

If you're a new player hoping to be competitive in PVP, it will take you several months to catch up--but you absolutely can catch up, with only the exception that you'll always trail a level or so behind in lab skills. Events that you missed will be repeated, and some players are up against the level cap of 65 right now, so you're only gaining on us in general levels, building levels, and equipment forging levels.

I started on first day - and I certainly mean it when I tell that no one should ever consider to start it right now.

Even if we forget about the worst art on nutaku bar a few western games, poor imbalanced gameplay with barely any viable variety(viable as in not having certain UR - just reroll until you get it at the very least, because all other UR's just pale in comparison.. aside of maybe 1 more which is decent)... timed events from people who luck out in the run for daimyo placing his/her own time with your only real choice being adapting to it until next daimyo makes it even worse.... the list of downsides goes on and on.
Even though all URs are at least decent, you need duplicates of them to be worth something... so again - you didn't luck out with duplicates of that specific UR in a while - might as well quit the game as well.
Literally in a game with potential for a strategic play they ruined it by giving the same tier girls complete 180 abilities I don't even know how was it possible to make it THAT disbalanced... you don't even need to test or consider anything when something is literally 1.5-2+ times more efficient, you don't exactly have a choice between temple/church because one is clearly superior with main meta... unless you can get a very good non meta setup - church is barely viable unless you want to 'pray' for RNG to guide you there... Heck even something as basic as weapon is clearly biased towards getting the exact same for every girl...

Not staying competitive means your progression slows to a crawl compared to those who started at start and were luckier/spent a lot. Even if we consider the only fun factor being unlocking... rather bad scenes - this exact thing is pretty much becoming much slower for you, since you are in much worse position to farm the events.
Obviously after a year you will catch up with most non girl 'unlockables', even if you start now and go through the same route the others took but much slower... well, unless they raise the cap obviously.
But even after reaching said cap - unless you got extremely lucky - you have worse girl setup than those who played longer anyway.

It has two servers and the population is rapidly dropping in both - only a matter of time until server 1 will remain at around 100 active players and server 2 will probably descent even lower in half a year or so.

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Anyone know what the general card that is the most expensive reward is of current event? I have not been able to find it labled anywhere and I want to know if it is worth saving for instead of getting the tickets.

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Anybody else not have trade recognize their copies of nanban pistol/nanbakusoku/frois' notes? It would be really nice to convert them to save some space, especially after finding out that the inventory is limited to 100 slots.

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Anybody else not have trade recognize their copies of nanban pistol/nanbakusoku/frois' notes? It would be really nice to convert them to save some space, especially after finding out that the inventory is limited to 100 slots.

You have to upgrade the item to level 1, I had the same problem since i forgot they start at level 0. Once they are level 1 it works fine.

[Semaphore]

Anyone know what the general card that is the most expensive reward is of current event? I have not been able to find it labled anywhere and I want to know if it is worth saving for instead of getting the tickets.

Last time they ran a warlord event, the final reward was a universal EVO card. I can't guarantee that that's it again, but it probably is. I'll find out as quickly as I can for you, though the event will probably be about 1/3 over by the time I do.

[Semaphore]

I started on first day - and I certainly mean it when I tell that no one should ever consider to start it right now.

Even if we forget about the worst art on nutaku bar a few western games, poor imbalanced gameplay with barely any viable variety(viable as in not having certain UR - just reroll until you get it at the very least, because all other UR's just pale in comparison.. aside of maybe 1 more which is decent)... timed events from people who luck out in the run for daimyo placing his/her own time with your only real choice being adapting to it until next daimyo makes it even worse.... the list of downsides goes on and on.
Even though all URs are at least decent, you need duplicates of them to be worth something... so again - you didn't luck out with duplicates of that specific UR in a while - might as well quit the game as well.
Literally in a game with potential for a strategic play they ruined it by giving the same tier girls complete 180 abilities I don't even know how was it possible to make it THAT disbalanced... you don't even need to test or consider anything when something is literally 1.5-2+ times more efficient, you don't exactly have a choice between temple/church because one is clearly superior with main meta... unless you can get a very good non meta setup - church is barely viable unless you want to 'pray' for RNG to guide you there... Heck even something as basic as weapon is clearly biased towards getting the exact same for every girl...

Not staying competitive means your progression slows to a crawl compared to those who started at start and were luckier/spent a lot. Even if we consider the only fun factor being unlocking... rather bad scenes - this exact thing is pretty much becoming much slower for you, since you are in much worse position to farm the events.
Obviously after a year you will catch up with most non girl 'unlockables', even if you start now and go through the same route the others took but much slower... well, unless they raise the cap obviously.
But even after reaching said cap - unless you got extremely lucky - you have worse girl setup than those who played longer anyway.

It has two servers and the population is rapidly dropping in both - only a matter of time until server 1 will remain at around 100 active players and server 2 will probably descent even lower in half a year or so.

So basically, you played the game briefly at launch and wrongly assume that nothing could possibly have changed since then.

You're mistaken to be so fixated on UR generals. If you were to assemble a team of whatever UR generals you want, all level 55, and whichever inherited UR general skills you want, I could easily tear you apart with the team I actually use. For that matter, another player building purely around SSR generals would tear you apart. Your UR Tiger of Kai will be useless because it will never have higher speed than the targets it attacks in such a scenario, leaving Master Strategist as your only decent damage dealer, and without any way to get much to buff her damage.

At launch, UR The Tiger of Kai was the only exceptionally strong general. Today, there are four:

UR Tiger of Kai
UR Master Strategist
SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai
SSR Sanada Yukitaka

If you're into PVP, then maybe you want to add:

SSR Takenaka Hanbei
SSR Uesugi Kenshin

Uesugi Kenshin isn't very good in PVE, though. And if you believe that the Japanese wiki is indicative of the content that will come over here, more top tier generals are coming.

The new event probably gives a universal EVO card. I'm probably going to save it because I have nothing worth using it on, even though I have 7 UR generals that I don't yet have a four star version of.

Temple and church are both viable. There are only two players on my server who have cleared the entire campaigns. One uses temple and the other uses church. Of the 16 players in the round of 16 in the daimyo tournament, 2 use church characters only, 5 use temple characters only, and 9 use at least one of each. None of the temple character only players have any hope of winning, though one of the church only players has been daimyo several times. If you restrict to the four players who have been daimyo in the last three months, you get 11 temple characters and 9 church characters.

As for a rapidly dropping playerbase, the first time I reached the round of 32, I had to win five matches to do so. This week, I had to win four. That means that my best estimate is a playerbase that has dropped by half in the last four months or so. I wouldn't call that catastrophic.

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Based on similarity to the summer water gun event, it's likely that the last four opponents in the new rogue nation event drop a valuable SSR Evo card with about a 0.2% probability. In the water gun event, I got 12 such SSR Evo cards in 5600 attempts, which is enough to get a pretty good estimate of the probability even when it's that low.

The last two opponents this time are rather annoying, as they're very strong corsair mobs that do massive reflect damage. My usual PVE group that cleared the entire campaign loses outright to both of them, and to beat them, I have to swap some parts and have something inappropriate for the warlords. The other two are much easier to defeat.

[Machcio]

How exactly the Sparrow Tail-shaped Hood works? (the armor you can drop from church dungeon)

What exactly they mean by "restore troops"? Heal? By how much?
and what POW stands for?

And are "Frois Notes" worth leveling and improving in port?

[Semaphore]

How exactly the Sparrow Tail-shaped Hood works? (the armor you can drop from church dungeon)

What exactly they mean by "restore troops"? Heal? By how much?
and what POW stands for?

And are "Frois Notes" worth leveling and improving in port?

I haven't gotten the sparrow tail item to drop, so I don't know what it is. The Japanese wiki describes it as "Arriving at the beginning of the turn, recovering the force of military force x 10, increasing defense power of armed power x 10". I'm not entirely sure what that means. Do you have the English translation of it?

POW is power, one of the three general stats. If you look at a general card, it has Pow (power), Led (leadership), and Int (intelligence) numbers, with values typically in the ballpark of 150 or so if you've got decent generals to level 55 and been leveling your lab skills.

As for the church event items, the base items that are directly dropped are pretty much junk whose only real use is as materials for crafting improved versions. The second tier versions aren't terrible, but aren't the items you really want, either. The third tier items are the real prizes from the event.

I'm not impressed by Ultimate Western Musket. I can't see any reason why I'd want to use it over both a water gun and a cursed nameless sword, so I've been vendoring the nanban pistols. Ultimate Western Armor and Luis' Traveler Diary, on the other hand, are absolutely endgame grade gear. I've got the latter and have the components for the former, but need to wait until tomorrow because of the daily port trade limit. Since I just got the last base item for both of them today, I don't expect to get enough drops to get a second of either, however.

[Foolinlove]

How exactly the Sparrow Tail-shaped Hood works? (the armor you can drop from church dungeon)

What exactly they mean by "restore troops"? Heal? By how much?
and what POW stands for?

And are "Frois Notes" worth leveling and improving in port?

The sparrow tail-shaped hood works based on your equipped general's power. It gives u regeneration x10 and defense x10 for each point of power. For example the general I have it equipped on has 135 power, so they get 1350 defense and regeneration at beginning of every turn. The defense bonus is a hidden value since it procs during combat instead of being added onto ur base defense, so it is a lot higher defense than it seems at first glance. It is really good for me atm, since my highest hp general is 5k. Not sure how good it would be once you get up to higher levels though. Though since it stacks with other regen you can hit some REALLY high regen totals. I managed to heal for 2589 every turn with a 5021 max hp and take out the final group in the daily challenges for the first time thanks to that insane regen combo.

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The sparrow tail-shaped hood works based on your equipped general's power. It gives u regeneration x10 and defense x10 for each point of power. For example the general I have it equipped on has 135 power, so they get 1350 defense and regeneration at beginning of every turn. The defense bonus is a hidden value since it procs during combat instead of being added onto ur base defense, so it is a lot higher defense than it seems at first glance. It is really good for me atm, since my highest hp general is 5k. Not sure how good it would be once you get up to higher levels though. Though since it stacks with other regen you can hit some REALLY high regen totals. I managed to heal for 2589 every turn with a 5021 max hp and take out the final group in the daily challenges for the first time thanks to that insane regen combo.

That sounds very powerful at lower levels, though less so at endgame. Percentage buffs are generally stronger than fixed amount buffs at endgame, simply because the numbers you're dealing with are so much higher. Regeneration is useful, but not that useful, as most battles end so quickly once you get stronger. It's good to have some around for when you need to beat a reflect-heavy opponent, though.

How strong ~1500 defense is depends tremendously on how it stacks. It probably doesn't stack with any percentage bonuses that are built into your displayed defense number. But what about percentage bonuses that proc from skills, most notably Koyo Gunkan? Does it depend on the order in which the skills are applied?

It does look to me like it would be viable endgame gear, however, not something you want to discard as soon as you can.

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In what lvl does the exploration in the port appears?
mine is already lvl30 but i still can't see it

[Foolinlove]

That sounds very powerful at lower levels, though less so at endgame. Percentage buffs are generally stronger than fixed amount buffs at endgame, simply because the numbers you're dealing with are so much higher. Regeneration is useful, but not that useful, as most battles end so quickly once you get stronger. It's good to have some around for when you need to beat a reflect-heavy opponent, though.

How strong ~1500 defense is depends tremendously on how it stacks. It probably doesn't stack with any percentage bonuses that are built into your displayed defense number. But what about percentage bonuses that proc from skills, most notably Koyo Gunkan? Does it depend on the order in which the skills are applied?

It does look to me like it would be viable endgame gear, however, not something you want to discard as soon as you can.

Yeah the defense doesn't seem to stack with other bonuses unfortunately, though the flat amount is actually more useful than percents when your numbers are only in 6000's to 7000's. Not sure if it would work with koyo gunkan since I have been completely unable to get a damn takeda shingen of kai =/ so i cant test that, the game hates me ever since I managed to get tiger of kai on first box, ive not gotten any other of the super good generals, just pretty bad ur like cylcops and ssr that are worse than my sr.

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does anyone here knows how to get a forge stone and inheritor ore?and can please anyone tell me how to get it

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In what lvl does the exploration in the port appears?
mine is already lvl30 but i still can't see it

Do you not see an artifacts button? The exploration option is inside that menu. It's plausible that it could require temple or church level 30, as that's the minimum to equip an artifact. It's been long enough that I don't remember the exact requirement.

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Yeah the defense doesn't seem to stack with other bonuses unfortunately, though the flat amount is actually more useful than percents when your numbers are only in 6000's to 7000's. Not sure if it would work with koyo gunkan since I have been completely unable to get a damn takeda shingen of kai =/ so i cant test that, the game hates me ever since I managed to get tiger of kai on first box, ive not gotten any other of the super good generals, just pretty bad ur like cylcops and ssr that are worse than my sr.

Keep drawing tickets and eventually the various laws of large numbers will help you. After being unable to get any UR Master Strategist at all for months, I suddenly went from nothing to a four star version in about two weeks. Two UR EVO tickets helped there, but still, Master Strategist and Taikou Hideyoshi were the only URs that I got more than one of out of over 90 soul tickets in the rebellion event. And I got a lucky UR Master Strategist out of a gold summon right after that event ended, too.

And don't forget to save your SSR and higher EVO cards for the really strong generals rather than wasting them on whatever junk you get first. I've used 19 SSR EVO cards on Takeda Shingen of Kai alone, and having saved them meant that on multiple occasions, as soon as I got a lucky draw, I could make her four stars.

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does anyone here knows how to get a forge stone and inheritor ore?and can please anyone tell me how to get it

Forge stones are obtained at port by trading standard rations for them. It requires port level 19 to have the option to make the trade.

Inheritor ore is only from events. Generals that existed before inheritor ore was added to the game can be inherited without using the ore, however.

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[QUOTE=Semaphore;89170]Keep drawing tickets and eventually the various laws of large numbers will help you. After being unable to get any UR Master Strategist at all for months, I suddenly went from nothing to a four star version in about two weeks. Two UR EVO tickets helped there, but still, Master Strategist and Taikou Hideyoshi were the only URs that I got more than one of out of over 90 soul tickets in the rebellion event. And I got a lucky UR Master Strategist out of a gold summon right after that event ended, too.

Yeah it will eventually turn around, but when you go through around 150 gold tickets in a couple weeks and 90 of them were R and rest were sr cept for maybe 3 bad ssr, it can get frustrating. It doesn't help that I've gotten around 10 plat tickets so far from this current event and every single one of them was sr too. I got 5 of the damn gold increasing general even from the plat tickets which I've had maxed already for a long time lol.

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Anyone know what the general card that is the most expensive reward is of current event? I have not been able to find it labled anywhere and I want to know if it is worth saving for instead of getting the tickets.

I just finished it and can now confirm that the final reward (meaning, at 35k points) is a Universal EVO card. I can also confirm that SSR EVO cards drop from at least one of the final four mobs (and probably all four), though with a very low drop rate.

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What exactly is mikazukimunechika sheath used for? I am assuming its for something in the port , and if so is the item worthwhile and what level port do you need for it?

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What exactly is mikazukimunechika sheath used for? I am assuming its for something in the port , and if so is the item worthwhile and what level port do you need for it?

It's used to craft a Munechika Sword, which requires port level 49. The sword deals an extra 20% damage, and an additional 10% if the target is infantry or if damage is less than 20% of the targets max troops. Crafting it also requires two items that, as best as I can tell, are not yet in the game. There's also a 500 soul fee to craft the sword, so even if you had the components, you might not want to.

And for all of that, the sword isn't even all that great. It's high enough level to be endgame caliber, certainly. But I don't see any good reason to use it over both a water gun and a cursed nameless sword.

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Hi,

Does anyone know why evolution cards can be evolved to 5 stars?

Can I have a 5 stars general? if so, how?

Also, about the evolution emblems. How are they used? do you need to apply them on a general with 3 o more stars when you evolve her?

What would be the effect? +5 in all attributes? How many times can you apply an emblem to a general?

Thank you!

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Hi,

Does anyone know why evolution cards can be evolved to 5 stars?

Can I have a 5 stars general? if so, how?

Also, about the evolution emblems. How are they used? do you need to apply them on a general with 3 o more stars when you evolve her?

What would be the effect? +5 in all attributes? How many times can you apply an emblem to a general?

Thank you!

You can't evolve generals to five stars. An EVO emblem can only be applied to a three star general in the process of evolving it to four stars. In particular, if the general is already four stars, you can't apply the EVO emblem. And yes, it's +5 to power, leadership, and intelligence.

The third map of the daimyo world boss drops "Sword of Light and Shadow", which increases damage to your primary target by power x10, or power x15 if "the target's DEF is higher than hers." It's a high level weapon, and with higher per-level attack bonuses than most weapons offer. But the effect on it is pretty much junk, as that's only going to be about 2k damage to one target. To the vendor it goes.

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[QUOTE=Semaphore;89779]You can't evolve generals to five stars. An EVO emblem can only be applied to a three star general in the process of evolving it to four stars. In particular, if the general is already four stars, you can't apply the EVO emblem. And yes, it's +5 to power, leadership, and intelligence.


Thanks for the reply!

I'm still wondering why evolution cards have 5 stars...

[Machcio]

Is artifact inventory space hard capped at 10? burning through exploration junk few pieces at a time is killing me.

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[QUOTE=Semaphore;89779]You can't evolve generals to five stars. An EVO emblem can only be applied to a three star general in the process of evolving it to four stars. In particular, if the general is already four stars, you can't apply the EVO emblem. And yes, it's +5 to power, leadership, and intelligence.


Thanks for the reply!

I'm still wondering why evolution cards have 5 stars...

I only see four starts on an SSR EVO card. I'm not sure where you're seeing five.

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Is artifact inventory space hard capped at 10? burning through exploration junk few pieces at a time is killing me.

You can expand artifact inventory space the same way that you do normal inventory space. You click the lock at the bottom to bring up the option. It costs copper for a while, and probably eventually koban. I don't see any reason to spend koban on extra artifact inventory space, though, as you can get a lot of slots from just copper.

Congratulations on making the round of 32 in the daimyo tournament for the first time. I personally don't put top damage dealers in the back in PVP like you did with your Tiger of Kai, as people tend to put something in that front spot that you'll hit specifically designed to take a shot from a Tiger of Kai. A lot of players will put a Uesugi Kenshin with an inherited Takenaka Hanbei or vice versa of a corsair class there, so that a strong damage dealer kills herself from reflect damage while her target survives due to Takenaka Hanbei's skill. There is a lot of rock/paper/scissors randomness to it, though.

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If you're on my server, watch the video of Nylem beating EarthCrimson in the round of 16 for the very definition of ridiculous luck. With the matchups lined up as they were, EarthCrimson probably wins about 99% of the time.

[Machcio]

Congratulations on making the round of 32 in the daimyo tournament for the first time. I personally don't put top damage dealers in the back in PVP like you did with your Tiger of Kai, as people tend to put something in that front spot that you'll hit specifically designed to take a shot from a Tiger of Kai. A lot of players will put a Uesugi Kenshin with an inherited Takenaka Hanbei or vice versa of a corsair class there, so that a strong damage dealer kills herself from reflect damage while her target survives due to Takenaka Hanbei's skill. There is a lot of rock/paper/scissors randomness to it, though.

Thx. It's always nice to get some PvP progress, and yes, I'm aware that Tiger of Kai gets killed by reflect damage most of the time. However, as you said the oponent may or may not have team set up for that and putting Tiger of Kai in other positin WILL get her killed (usually much faster) as she is squishy as hell (plus mine is only lv45 and most probably I won't get to EVO card in dungeon final prize). Also I'm almost finished stuffing my Sanada Yukitaka to lv55 so I will have some team changes going soon.

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I only see four starts on an SSR EVO card. I'm not sure where you're seeing five.

In the mobile app version of the game at least SR EVO cards have 5 stars. It might be a bug, though...

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Thx. It's always nice to get some PvP progress, and yes, I'm aware that Tiger of Kai gets killed by reflect damage most of the time. However, as you said the oponent may or may not have team set up for that and putting Tiger of Kai in other positin WILL get her killed (usually much faster) as she is squishy as hell (plus mine is only lv45 and most probably I won't get to EVO card in dungeon final prize). Also I'm almost finished stuffing my Sanada Yukitaka to lv55 so I will have some team changes going soon.

It does depend on who you play, but six of the eight players in the quarterfinals have in the front spot of the bottom row either a Takenaka Hanbei with an inherited Uesugi Kenshin or Dragon of Echigo or the other way around, and of the corsair class. Far fewer players put heavy reflect damage in the top row, as there can only be one general in the top row to defend against.

What's pretty common is that both players put heavy damage dealers in the top row, and then whichever of the two attacks first kills the other in one shot. With a Tiger of Kai especially, if you're not attacking first, you're useless. Last week, I lost when Aargaez barely one-shotted the general I had in that spot, even though my general had about 15k defense and an additional 55% damage reduction from other sources. This week, I decided to stick something with about 700 speed in that spot and make sure that I attack first.

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Well that worked. I organized my team this week with the goal of beating Aargaez, having a decent shot against Temp and Nootaku, and hoping to avoid a decently strong, reflect-heavy opponent like EarthCrimson or Rimuru. So I was quite pleased to see Nylem upset EarthCrimson, as I mentioned above, as well as Nootaku and Rimuru not even appearing in the round of 32.

In the finals, Aargaez came at me with a Sasaki Kojiro with an inherited Tiger of Kai and, with buffs, over 570 speed and 24k attack, even before the Tiger of Kai damage bonus. In three of his previous four matches, that character had fired the first shot of the battle, killing two enemy generals in the process. Temp was the only one of Aargaez's previous opponents to even get a single attack off, and he got two before dying.

So of course my lineup did exactly what it was built to do: killed that particular general before it even fired a shot. Game, set, match. And it does take some luck to design a team before the entire tournament to beat one particular opponent, then happen to draw that opponent in the finals while avoiding a few other opponents that my lineup would fare poorly against. But that's why there's a new tournament every week: to reroll who got lucky and who didn't.

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The silver keep event has a notable item that you might have missed. No, not the inheritor ore. That one is obvious, and you presumably know how much more of that you need.

Rather, the two level 55 opponents drop a "Hatazirushi", which is quite a nice item. If equipped by your team leader, it gives +10% attack and defense to your entire team. Let me make this as unambiguous for you as I can: you want one. The drop rate is pretty low, as I had to win about 140 or so battles to get my first one to drop.

Get a Takeda Shingen of Kai with an inherited Takeda Shingen of Kai equipped with a Hatazirushi and you've got +40% attack and +40% defense to your entire team. That makes a huge difference in just about every battle conceivable. Stacking team-wide buffs is the way to win, and this is a big one.

But you only need one. A party only has one leader, so you can't stack two Hatazirushi bonuses at once. But do get one while the event is going on, even if it means doing less of some other event.

[Machcio]

Get a Takeda Shingen of Kai with an inherited Takeda Shingen of Kai equipped with a Hatazirushi and you've got +40% attack and +40% defense to your entire team. That makes a huge difference in just about every battle conceivable. Stacking team-wide buffs is the way to win, and this is a big one.


Sounds lovely. Maybe next time for me. Right now now I'm really starting to feel the chokepoint. Getting new SSRs (not to mention those you actually want) is slow as hell.

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Sounds lovely. Maybe next time for me. Right now now I'm really starting to feel the chokepoint. Getting new SSRs (not to mention those you actually want) is slow as hell.

If you're doing all of the daily quests, plus the occasional obvious, easy gold ticket from other sources, then on average, you get a new SSR general every other day or so from gold tickets alone. For getting the few that you really want up to four stars, you rely more heavily on EVO cards. For example, I've used 19 SSR EVO cards on Takeda Shingen of Kai alone, 4 of them on Sanada Yukitaka, and possibly none on any other general ever.

Yes, SSR EVO cards are hard to come by, but there's an event running right now that drops them, albeit with only about a 0.2% drop rate. Still, that's enough that I've gotten three of them from the current rogue nation event.

As for the Hatazirushi, my point was that if you can get to and beat either of the level 55 opponents in the silver keep event, it's worth doing so until you get one Hatazirushi, as that will still be a valuable item to have months from now.

Don't think of getting generals as being the only way to advance. You should also be steadily getting stronger from leveling up lab skills and forging up gear, among other things.

[fuzzylogic]

Since I can't log for 5 hours then I guess I'll just have to chitchat.



Get a Takeda Shingen of Kai with an inherited Takeda Shingen of Kai equipped with a Hatazirushi and you've got +40% attack and +40% defense to your entire team. That makes a huge difference in just about every battle conceivable. Stacking team-wide buffs is the way to win, and this is a big one.



That is so kind of you revealing your secret of winning in pve/pvp. That is a big help to newbie players (like me since I started playing this game around august 2-5 of 2017).

I do not have Takeda Shingen of Kai but I do improvise and just use what I currently have. Currently have a level 35 Yamagata SSR, level 55 SR Baba and level 55 SR Yamagata as I also rely on speed because I usually include Tiger of Kai and/or Uesugi Kenshin (the bikini babe version) on my main army. Still hoping to luckily get good generals in the future via summon (only have level 35 Tiger of Kai and level 35 Dragon of Echigo UR generals) :)

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Don't get too caught up in thinking of "good" generals as meaning UR. It's actually better to think of "good" generals as meaning four star, level 55 generals. UR generals are only marginally useful because it takes so long to get them to four stars. You kind of have to pick, this will be the one UR general that I'm going to use, and assume that the rest won't have a spot on your team for several months because you'll reserve any UR EVO or Universal EVO cards you get for that one general.

Zero star UR generals might seem all right when you're fairly new and don't have good gear yet. But they can't use any remotely good gear, as they're capped at level 35, which is absolutely crippling. Eventually, you get good gear and need to be able to equip it.

The four generals that you want right now are:

UR Tiger of Kai
UR Master Strategist
SSR Sanada Yukitaka
SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai

And you want about as many Takeda Shingen of Kai as you can get, as Koyo Gunkan is a great skill to inherit. I have five separate copies of a four star Takeda Shingen of Kai. That's not insane luck from drawing her; that's having used 19 SSR EVO cards on her, which is a large majority of the SSR EVO cards that I've ever had.

For a fifth general, right now, I'm using Mori Motonari, as that's the best other level 55 general I've got. There are several generals that I'd replace her with if I had a level 55 version:

UR Taikou Hideyoshi
UR Sanada Yukimura (S)
UR Bear of Hizen
SSR Akechi Mitsuhide (S)
SSR Naoe Kagetsuna

There are a lot of UR generals not on that list, and I expect SSR Naoe Kagetsuna to be the one I end up with, simply because she's not UR and not an event general that you can't get anymore. I actually do have a one star Taikou Hideyoshi and a zero star Akechi Mitsuhide (S), but they're not worth wasting EVO cards on.

The above is talking about PVE. PVP is different, as very high damage will take off massively more troops than your opponent has, which can easily kill you with reflect damage. Combinations of Takenaka Hanbei with Uesugi Kenshin or Dragon of Echigo are popular in PVP for that reason, and nearly always of the corsair class, even if it's a temple player.

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Hello, i tried to open apps in android but always force closed, yesterday it can be played normally, since last night i can't open it.

Do you know solution for my problems?

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Zero star UR generals might seem all right when you're fairly new and don't have good gear yet. But they can't use any remotely good gear, as they're capped at level 35, which is absolutely crippling. Eventually, you get good gear and need to be able to equip it.

The four generals that you want right now are:

UR Tiger of Kai
UR Master Strategist
SSR Sanada Yukitaka
SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai


For a fifth general, right now, I'm using Mori Motonari, as that's the best other level 55 general I've got. There are several generals that I'd replace her with if I had a level 55 version:

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The above is talking about PVE. PVP is different, as very high damage will take off massively more troops than your opponent has, which can easily kill you with reflect damage. Combinations of Takenaka Hanbei with Uesugi Kenshin or Dragon of Echigo are popular in PVP for that reason, and nearly always of the corsair class, even if it's a temple player.

I do have a 0 star Level 35 UR Tiger of Kai and that general is always on my main army. It might be level 35 but its better when I compared with other generals that I have (compared with a Level 40 SSR Uesugi Kenshin and a Level 40 SSR Takeda Nobushige - both have Elite Black Rider troops and have a Original Black Naginata at max level which is also level 40). Tiger of Kai is equipped with a level 40 Legendary Mumei Sword but the damage is still bigger than the two generals aforementioned. Sometimes I just test or experiment so that I would know which general would be a better fit to my army. I am not really lucky when getting random stuffs so its just a "come what may" situation and just use my current equips, generals and other items related to the game itself.

I use either UR Dragon of Echigo (Corsair troop) or SSR Uesugi Kenshin (Elite Black Rider) as my frontliner when I go PVP or just to get the arena related reward.

I just got a Mori Motonari from last month's 25th day daily log in reward. But in comparison to other generals that I have (in which those generals have Elite Marksman troops) like SSR Honnganji Kennyo, SSR Miyamoto Musashi and SSR Takeda Shingen, Mori Motonari still have the best damage amongst the four.

The progression is slow but still I am just enjoying the game and just doing baby steps (upgrades, leveling research, construction, etc... one at a time). For now the android app is still not functioning and makes us android users sitting ducks lol.

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Hello, i tried to open apps in android but always force closed, yesterday it can be played normally, since last night i can't open it.

Do you know solution for my problems?

I feel your pain dude.... There was no new apk released at the time I checked 4 hours ago (still version 12). Tried playing other nutaku games and they worked fine. So I uninstalled and reinstalled the said game (although I already thought about the pain in the butt update but still wanna check if the app if not functioning). The problem is the server itself as there might a device detection protocol of some sort that was turned off for android. For now android users are just sitting ducks :(

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I feel your pain dude.... There was no new apk released at the time I checked 4 hours ago (still version 12). Tried playing other nutaku games and they worked fine. So I uninstalled and reinstalled the said game (although I already thought about the pain in the butt update but still wanna check if the app if not functioning). The problem is the server itself as there might a device detection protocol of some sort that was turned off for android. For now android users are just sitting ducks :(

The Windows version canceled the normal weekly maintenance. Hopefully that's because they're busy fixing the Android version.

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Is there a sort of tips and tricks thing buried in this forum thread? I just ask because while I've dabbled on this for a while, but not much, still gotta earn my Freshman Ticket and whatnot, feel like I'm not making any progress at all.

Only UR atm is Demon King of the Six Heavens.

SSRs are just two ;-;. Sasaki Kojiro, and Kamiizumi.

Just..really at a loss, to be honest. I'm used to grinding games, but dunno what it is about this one that has me so bloody confused.

[fuzzylogic]

The Windows version canceled the normal weekly maintenance. Hopefully that's because they're busy fixing the Android version.

Hope it will be fixed soon :)

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Is there a sort of tips and tricks thing buried in this forum thread? I just ask because while I've dabbled on this for a while, but not much, still gotta earn my Freshman Ticket and whatnot, feel like I'm not making any progress at all.

Only UR atm is Demon King of the Six Heavens.

SSRs are just two ;-;. Sasaki Kojiro, and Kamiizumi.

Just..really at a loss, to be honest. I'm used to grinding games, but dunno what it is about this one that has me so bloody confused.

This is the thread that you're looking for:

http://harem-battle.club/others/3673-win-mononofu.html

[nines]

Hey guys, I created a subreddit in an attempt to merge all the smaller communities into one big community. It might be fun to join and meet new people you've never had the chance to talk to before. It's brand new and we're still organizing but we'd love to have you.

If you know of another small community please spread the message along!

Check it out at r/MononofuBPoWL/

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Hello, i tried to open apps in android but always force closed, yesterday it can be played normally, since last night i can't open it.

Do you know solution for my problems?

Based on the notice it currently doesn't work on android 7.0 and above.
124.24.57.17:8080/pc/popup.php?id=1977

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Today's in-game announcement claims that the android crash is fixed.

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Today's in-game announcement claims that the android crash is fixed.

hooray!!!! XD

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And the great soul ticket even has returned. Last time it ran, I got 48 soul tickets out of beating the end boss 6515 times. Fortunately, I've been saving my koban ever since then and now have over 5000 to use for this event. If it takes you a whole bunch of battles to beat the boss, it's not worth it. But if you've got a fairly strong team, this is where you get your SSR and UR generals.

[Machcio]

oh yes, it's time to melt that koban into rations and fast battle tickets.


btw: is there any way of non-event farm of SSR evo cards? (apart from normal ticket drop chance)

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Is the UR general cyclops worth using if you have a 3 star version of it? I am currently using a team of 4 star oda nobunaga, takenaka, toyotomi, and takeda shingen, and a 3 star tiger of kai. I've gotten 4 cyclops ur cards from soul tickets so far lol, and I want to know if she is worth using exp cards on compared to ones i already have leveled. I also have a 2 star sanada yukitaka but, i really cant justify using her atm since she can't equip my sparrow tail hood, or any weapon other than the basics.

[Foolinlove]

oh yes, it's time to melt that koban into rations and fast battle tickets.


btw: is there any way of non-event farm of SSR evo cards? (apart from normal ticket drop chance)

The only thing I've seen with ssr tickets other than the normal summoning, was the last 4 battles of the battle point event. I got several from it myself even though I couldn't beat the final 2 fights.

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oh yes, it's time to melt that koban into rations and fast battle tickets.


btw: is there any way of non-event farm of SSR evo cards? (apart from normal ticket drop chance)

There is occasionally an event where the last four opponents have about a 0.2% chance of dropping an SSR EVO card. They ran it over the summer as the event that gave water guns, and then more recently as some other event where the last two opponents were really strong corsairs. You can recognize the event because there are ten opponents in total, the first five drop a lot of small soul cards, the last five drop a lot of large soul cards, and a bunch of opponents drop SR EVO cards. That's the best source of SSR EVO cards, though.

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Is the UR general cyclops worth using if you have a 3 star version of it? I am currently using a team of 4 star oda nobunaga, takenaka, toyotomi, and takeda shingen, and a 3 star tiger of kai. I've gotten 4 cyclops ur cards from soul tickets so far lol, and I want to know if she is worth using exp cards on compared to ones i already have leveled. I also have a 2 star sanada yukitaka but, i really cant justify using her atm since she can't equip my sparrow tail hood, or any weapon other than the basics.

If you happen to have drawn four UR Cyclops cards, then sure, she's a decent enough general. There aren't any UR generals for which I've happened to draw for UR cards of the same general.

I'd definitely level up the three star Cyclops eventually. The question is what to do first. Eventually you've got lots of experience cards and nothing high priority to spend them on, so you just pick something and level it. I've got 51 generals who are level 55 now, and that includes 35 distinct generals.

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Is the UR general cyclops worth using if you have a 3 star version of it? I am currently using a team of 4 star oda nobunaga, takenaka, toyotomi, and takeda shingen, and a 3 star tiger of kai. I've gotten 4 cyclops ur cards from soul tickets so far lol, and I want to know if she is worth using exp cards on compared to ones i already have leveled. I also have a 2 star sanada yukitaka but, i really cant justify using her atm since she can't equip my sparrow tail hood, or any weapon other than the basics.

Wow such a lucky player when it comes to summoning/gacha... Wish I had that luck the same as yours. Finally got my 3rd UR general via golden ticket summon the other day, however it seems that Luis Frois is not that useful. >.<

I think Cyclops is a good general to use. Its still 4 star either main or inherit feed.

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Nobbie question but what level does castle/lab need to be for a 5 unit team ?

lab has to be lvl 25 and upgrafe formation to lvl 25

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Wow such a lucky player when it comes to summoning/gacha... Wish I had that luck the same as yours. Finally got my 3rd UR general via golden ticket summon the other day, however it seems that Luis Frois is not that useful. >.<

I think Cyclops is a good general to use. Its still 4 star either main or inherit feed.

Drawing four Cyclops is your idea of such a lucky player? What then are the people who draw the generals that you'd actually want to use if you had a choice?

To a large degree, you make your own luck in this game by doing more summons. I've done 40 soul ticket summons so far in this event, for example.

[Orion Lady]

I wish that this event would not be only for old players, but gave us new players some chances of getting things too, cause as it stands now the strong will only get stronger and we newbs will be left behind even more.

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I wish that this event would not be only for old players, but gave us new players some chances of getting things too, cause as it stands now the strong will only get stronger and we newbs will be left behind even more.

Most events do cater much more to newer players. This one is the exception. For example, in the trainer dungeon event that just ended, I only used one general for the battle so as to make the battles go faster. While that one general was a UR Master Strategist for the last opponent, I pulled her off in favor of SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai for three other opponents (less reflect damage, still powerful enough to one shot everything, and easier not to have to reshuffle gear), and some random archer who didn't even have any gear equipped for the first three opponents.

Furthermore, a new player and an established veteran getting exactly the same reward will tend to reduce the power gap between them, as the new player has far more use for the same reward. While new players were getting new generals to level 55, I was mostly using the experience cards to level up random spare parts that I'll probably never use. While new players were using the gold to level up buildings or forge up their best pieces of gear, I was spending it on alternate pieces of gear so that I could have level 65 pieces of gear for my defense team. That reduces the power gap a lot.

Even so, it's not like this event is asking you to beat Date Nami and Date Masamune from the end of campaign map 6-4. You can take multiple battles to do it. If it takes you five battles to beat the end boss, you can still beat it. The first time this event ran, it took me five battles to beat the boss at the start of the event, which I got down to 2-3 battles by the end of it. That was still enough to get some good rewards. That's not nearly as fast as beating the boss in one battle that takes two rounds like it was the second time the event ran, or invariably beating the boss in a single round before it even gets to attack like I do now. So while this event is tilted toward the more established players, anyone who has been playing continuously for a couple of months should be able to get some good stuff out of it.

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Drawing four Cyclops is your idea of such a lucky player? What then are the people who draw the generals that you'd actually want to use if you had a choice?

To a large degree, you make your own luck in this game by doing more summons. I've done 40 soul ticket summons so far in this event, for example.

For a guy who is not lucky getting random stuffs, then I say it is a yes. I still consider myself a newbie since I started playing the game during the first week of August. I only have 3 UR generals (not evolved, max level 35) but I still use them. I just improvise of what I currently have. As for the current event, I always get the 30k copper and kuniosa swords, but no SSR Takeda general, soul or soul ticket. Still lovin and enjoying the game XD

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For a guy who is not lucky getting random stuffs, then I say it is a yes. I still consider myself a newbie since I started playing the game during the first week of August. I only have 3 UR generals (not evolved, max level 35) but I still use them. I just improvise of what I currently have. As for the current event, I always get the 30k copper and kuniosa swords, but no SSR Takeda general, soul or soul ticket. Still lovin and enjoying the game XD

Everyone gets copper or junk gear most of the time. The drop probabilities are about 70% copper, 21% junk gear, 7% souls, 1% Takeda Shingen card, and 0.8% soul ticket. If you beat the boss thousands of times, you'll get a lot of souls and soul tickets. If you beat it ten times and stop, then you shouldn't expect to get anything good out of that.

[Foolinlove]

Is there any reason to even keep this general? Their abilities seem utterly useless to me, and I now have 3 of them taking up space in my castle. Is there any viable reason to keep them and not just sacrifice them for souls?

[Foolinlove]

I wish that this event would not be only for old players, but gave us new players some chances of getting things too, cause as it stands now the strong will only get stronger and we newbs will be left behind even more.

This event still can give a little bit of rewards even for newer players, though it scales to insane levels once you can kill him in 1 battle. The first time this event popped I had been playing for a month or so and it took me 3 battles on average to kill it and I managed to get like 3-4 soul tickets. This time I kill it in 1 fight without even having any troop loss since my regen deals with healing myself to full at start of fight. My rewards so far have been around 40 million coins 20 plat tickets from sacrificing the takeda's with platinum priest going and 44 soul tickets and I still have a ton of days of event left. So just take what you can while your new, and look forward to seeing it again once you are stronger. :)

[Orion Lady]

As someone who is round half a month old and extremely unlucky at RNG this event is close to impossible or should i say doable with catastrophic troop fatalities for fucking 30k copper or 100 souls. my highest level character is the one that gives bonus for copper collecting, my second highest Naoe that grants bonus to troop collecting. So if i could beat boss in 10 tries i would not bitch about, but loosing over a million troops for 90k copper and 100 souls is something not worth doing thus making 2 weeks as the event will last seem as a distant future.

[Foolinlove]

As someone who is round half a month old and extremely unlucky at RNG this event is close to impossible or should i say doable with catastrophic troop fatalities for fucking 30k copper or 100 souls. my highest level character is the one that gives bonus for copper collecting, my second highest Naoe that grants bonus to troop collecting. So if i could beat boss in 10 tries i would not bitch about, but loosing over a million troops for 90k copper and 100 souls is something not worth doing thus making 2 weeks as the event will last seem as a distant future.

If it takes you more than 10 tries to beat him it is not worth doing at all unless u get insanely good rng and get a soul ticket on your kill. I honestly dont think i would bother at all personally if it took more than 5 or 6 at most other than a few tries if u had nothing else to do with your energy. Just focus on getting yourself stronger and doing daily world bosses and daimyo until a new event pops up. This event is geared toward people who already have a decently strong team, but it is by far the biggest rewards I've seen from any event if you are capable of doing it quickly.

[fuzzylogic]

Everyone gets copper or junk gear most of the time. The drop probabilities are about 70% copper, 21% junk gear, 7% souls, 1% Takeda Shingen card, and 0.8% soul ticket. If you beat the boss thousands of times, you'll get a lot of souls and soul tickets. If you beat it ten times and stop, then you shouldn't expect to get anything good out of that.

Yeah. You are definitely correct about that. Just got one soul ticket at long last (for like more than 30-35 roulette tries haha). I am just saving kobans as I am quite near of hitting the 1.5k koban summon (but I do not know what to choose if its gonna be event or special summon).

By the way I have a question... Which is better - Modified Nanban Pistol, Kuniosa Sword or Munechika Sword? I got a munechika sheath that I got 3-4 weeks ago from last stage of Exp Card Challenge. It is because all of them have expensive upgrade costs (The cost of upgrading a level 36 Kuniosa sword is 300k+). Thanks in advance XD

[Semaphore]

Yeah. You are definitely correct about that. Just got one soul ticket at long last (for like more than 30-35 roulette tries haha). I am just saving kobans as I am quite near of hitting the 1.5k koban summon (but I do not know what to choose if its gonna be event or special summon).

By the way I have a question... Which is better - Modified Nanban Pistol, Kuniosa Sword or Munechika Sword? I got a munechika sheath that I got 3-4 weeks ago from last stage of Exp Card Challenge. It is because all of them have expensive upgrade costs (The cost of upgrading a level 36 Kuniosa sword is 300k+). Thanks in advance XD

I don't think you can get a Munechika Sword yet, as the hilt isn't in the game, even if the other components are. I had several of the sheathes, but vendored them to make room in inventory.

The others aren't bad, really. My preferred weapons are water gun (came from an event in the summer) and cursed nameless sword (from farming opponents in campaign map 6-4). Well, I don't have a cursed nameless sword yet, but I plan to get a few eventually.

[Unregistered]

The hilt is from boat exploration

[Foolinlove]

I don't think you can get a Munechika Sword yet, as the hilt isn't in the game, even if the other components are. I had several of the sheathes, but vendored them to make room in inventory.

The others aren't bad, really. My preferred weapons are water gun (came from an event in the summer) and cursed nameless sword (from farming opponents in campaign map 6-4). Well, I don't have a cursed nameless sword yet, but I plan to get a few eventually.

Technically you could have gotten a munechika sword from the large chests during the one treasure chest event if u got lucky and got it, as highly unlikely as it was for a 600 koban random.

Since I was not playing during water gun event and am not nearly strong enough to farm the cursed shards yet, I am currently using kuniosa swords on my takeda shingen and tiger of kai so they get the bonus, and ultimate western musket on my other dmg general. Sadly im still stuck using 2 legendary munmei swords on my other 2 generals though =/. Anyone know of a good sword that is achievable by someone able to beat chapter 5 but not 6 that I could replace my munmei's with?

[Unregistered]

I don't think you can get a Munechika Sword yet, as the hilt isn't in the game, even if the other components are. I had several of the sheathes, but vendored them to make room in inventory.

I just checked my inventory, and I have the hilt.

[Unregistered]

Hi. I saw a player with a Naoe SR that almost fully heals every round. How is this effect achieved?

[fuzzylogic]

I don't think you can get a Munechika Sword yet, as the hilt isn't in the game, even if the other components are. I had several of the sheathes, but vendored them to make room in inventory.

The others aren't bad, really. My preferred weapons are water gun (came from an event in the summer) and cursed nameless sword (from farming opponents in campaign map 6-4). Well, I don't have a cursed nameless sword yet, but I plan to get a few eventually.

Hmm even if I have the sheath, I won't be able to make the weapon because of the missing ingredient.

That event that had the water gun ingredients was I guess the time I started playing Mononofu. Sad to say that I can only make Hibiscus during that time and was not to able to get the other ingredient for water gun and that summer headgear. That water gun is I think the best weapon if we are talking about speed boosts.

So I guess its copper burning time just to make the said equipments up to its current max level (Blacksmith is currently level 40 XD). Its better than nothing.

[fuzzylogic]

Technically you could have gotten a munechika sword from the large chests during the one treasure chest event if u got lucky and got it, as highly unlikely as it was for a 600 koban random.

Since I was not playing during water gun event and am not nearly strong enough to farm the cursed shards yet, I am currently using kuniosa swords on my takeda shingen and tiger of kai so they get the bonus, and ultimate western musket on my other dmg general. Sadly im still stuck using 2 legendary munmei swords on my other 2 generals though =/. Anyone know of a good sword that is achievable by someone able to beat chapter 5 but not 6 that I could replace my munmei's with?

If your generals are of level 43 or above (the ones that have the Legendary Munmei Swords equipped on), then I guess you can farm for Palm Fan then make it to Original Palm Fan. It's in chapter 4-6. Just a sugggestion though.

[Machcio]

Was there an update or something? I can't launch the game.
Loading bar stops at 100% and popup shows saying "A resource update if found, please relogin the game"

Both firefox and chrome. fresh flash player installed. clearing cache and cookies didn't help. reloging on nutaku didn't help.

what the hell?

[Semaphore]

Was there an update or something? I can't launch the game.
Loading bar stops at 100% and popup shows saying "A resource update if found, please relogin the game"

Both firefox and chrome. fresh flash player installed. clearing cache and cookies didn't help. reloging on nutaku didn't help.

what the hell?

The game was down for a while this morning, but seems to be working again now. Maybe maintenance just took longer than normal or something.

[Orion Lady]

There was an error when they launched the update, and they fixed it relatively fast and sent us some compensation for it.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Hello New to this forum and just discovered a topic related to Monofufu so I joined in.

This game is addictively fun imo. I due have a hard time beating those top 10 Veterans on Arena. XD

[fuzzylogic]

That copper dungeon reminded me of a previous event but I can't remember what event that was hahaha. That was the event that I farmed for the two armors. But currently copper dungeon is not a good event for me because its not worth the copper that you will be getting in exchange for troop loss. All the stages have 5 corsairs each wth. Better to farm at Frosty Realm or Vulture event than Copper Dungeon.

[Semaphore]

Hello New to this forum and just discovered a topic related to Monofufu so I joined in.

This game is addictively fun imo. I due have a hard time beating those top 10 Veterans on Arena. XD

If you mean the daily PVP, it helps to selectively attack weaker players, and to go after players who don't put their good generals on their defense team. Unless you're trying to get the kizuna from the arena missions, it's generally best to focus more on making sure you win all ten matches for the gold tickets than on getting as high of a rank as possible. I personally tend to pick someone I can beat and then beat him ten times in a row--and it's probably been months since I lost an attack I initiated in the daily PVP.

The thing to remember about daily PVP ranks is that whether the player cares about being high-ranked makes about as big of a difference as how strong the player is. For example, Vermillion is currently ranked #44 on the ladder in spite of being one of only four players on the server to have completely cleared the campaign. Zantetsuken is ranked #304, even though he's only of only 13 players to have access to the best endgame campaign farming for cursed shards. I guarantee you that both of them could be ranked higher if they cared to. But I also guarantee you that Zantetsuken has a very easy time getting his ten daily wins for gold tickets.

If your rank is much higher than justified by how strong your generals are, you also make yourself a target for other players to pick on looking for easy wins. That doesn't necessarily hurt you very much, as if someone beats you ten times in a row, then probably at least nine of them were with him ranked above you, so you don't lose further ranking.

It also makes a difference whether you mostly put your best generals on your defense team, especially overnight, to try to fend off challengers, or whether you leave your spare parts on the defense team without swapping your best generals in there.

If you mean that you have a hard time beating top ten players in the weekly tournament, then yeah, that's how it goes. There is some degree of randomness, as well as a rock/paper/scissors element to it in which matchups really matter. That's why it's not just the same daimyo every week. For example, I might be the only player on the server who can pretty reliably beat Aargaez if I build for it, but I'll tend to lose to EarthCrimson, even though there are probably 6-10 or so other players who would beat him more often than not.

[Semaphore]

That copper dungeon reminded me of a previous event but I can't remember what event that was hahaha. That was the event that I farmed for the two armors. But currently copper dungeon is not a good event for me because its not worth the copper that you will be getting in exchange for troop loss. All the stages have 5 corsairs each wth. Better to farm at Frosty Realm or Vulture event than Copper Dungeon.

Maybe you don't want to farm the end opponents in the copper dungeon, but the first five or so are very weak and still give good copper.

In my case, I don't want to farm the copper dungeon because the soul ticket event is up, which also gives pretty good copper. And because I don't have all that much need for copper anymore, as the main gear that I use a lot has already been forged to the level cap of 65.

[Unregistered]

Hi there, i've been playing this game for 3 months and i'm leveling up my SR gens but i wonder if i'm leveling up the good ones. I don't fully understand the mechanics of this game yet and me bein french doesn't help.
So is anyone have a list of the best SR generals that are worth it. Any help will be appreciated.

[alkaiser]

That would be great !

[Jeffrey Uy]

I even got a hard time beating you, Sir Semaphore. XD

Uhmmm.... I stopped at Chapter 4: Hatano Brothers and I read about Zantetsuken (Curious why he didn't go for higher ranks... Unless he's aiming for Fast Battle Item. Maybe) end game campaign and Curse Shard so I'm curious how many chapters are there?

Also, What is a good equipment nowadays? Mine is Mostly Legendary Mumei Sword, Legendary Western Armor, and Original Jintai Drum. Few of them equip differently.

Sorry for many question, it's just I got hooked and wants to become better like Aargaez, Nootaku, etc and especially you. BTW, big fan of you, Sir Semaphore.


Edit: Almost forgot where on Earth can I find EVO Emblem Shard 3 and Evo Card Catalog Vol. 2?


Hi there, i've been playing this game for 3 months and i'm leveling up my SR gens but i wonder if i'm leveling up the good ones. I don't fully understand the mechanics of this game yet and me bein french doesn't help.
So is anyone have a list of the best SR generals that are worth it. Any help will be appreciated.

Not sure if my idea helps you but you can try. When i play Monofufu for the first time and havent encounter SSR and UR. I found Mori Ranmaru, Shimazu Iehisa, and Imagawa Yoshimoto are my Multi-target Attacker and Takeda Nobushige my tanker. My first one is my rare though.

Also, I recall there a Beginner's quest. And you received that you can pick UR as your Reward Trophy or whatever. Just go Tiger of Kai, I heard that it's strong. (correct me if I'm wrong)

[Semaphore]

Hi there, i've been playing this game for 3 months and i'm leveling up my SR gens but i wonder if i'm leveling up the good ones. I don't fully understand the mechanics of this game yet and me bein french doesn't help.
So is anyone have a list of the best SR generals that are worth it. Any help will be appreciated.

SR generals are, for the most part, a stopgap until you can get the SSR and UR generals that you really want. The only SR general that I've seen other players use much at endgame is Naoe Kagetsuna, and that's usually an SR Naoe Kagetsuna with another inherited SR Naoe Kagetsuna for huge regen. One other SR general worth mentioning is Usami Sadamitsu, for her skill to reduce the defense of all opposing units by 11%.

Mostly you want to focus early on on SR generals who have a useful skill to inherit, so that you can still get some use out of them for a while after you've got SSR generals. Healing skills remain useful for a long time, and I also like the +15% attack and defense skills.

[Semaphore]

I even got a hard time beating you, Sir Semaphore. XD

Uhmmm.... I stopped at Chapter 4: Hatano Brothers and I read about Zantetsuken (Curious why he didn't go for higher ranks... Unless he's aiming for Fast Battle Item. Maybe) end game campaign and Curse Shard so I'm curious how many chapters are there?

Also, What is a good equipment nowadays? Mine is Mostly Legendary Mumei Sword, Legendary Western Armor, and Original Jintai Drum. Few of them equip differently.

Sorry for many question, it's just I got hooked and wants to become better like Aargaez, Nootaku, etc and especially you. BTW, big fan of you, Sir Semaphore.


Edit: Almost forgot where on Earth can I find EVO Emblem Shard 3 and Evo Card Catalog Vol. 2?

For equipment, you generally have to accept that the stuff you forge up for a while to get to the endgame won't be the same equipment that you want to keep using in the endgame.

For weapons, I favor water gun and cursed nameless sword. Unfortunately for you, the water gun is from an event that has come and gone (though it will probably come again), while the cursed nameless sword comes from farming for cursed shards in 6-4. Other than that, you mostly want various event weapons that come and go.

For armors, among the easy to get ones, I favor the golden armor that drops in 5-3. Ultimate western armor is probably my favorite among the armors I've got, but that's also from an event that has come and gone. I use an original god of wind armor to change my generals' attack order, but that's kind of a gadget armor that you don't need more than one of. I also have a cursed nameless armor, which also comes from farming 6-4 and is useful mainly to ensure that the abilities on the cursed nameless sword will take effect. I've been leveling up an original nioh's armor (daily world boss, convoy 2-3) lately because it seems like it might be useful in pvp.

For accessories, a hatazirushi for your team leader is the indispensable one, and came from an event that just ended. I got two of them, so that my defense team could have one, too. I also have a Luis' traveler diary from an event. Among the easy to get accessories, zhan guo ce from level 5-4 is my favorite.

You can't get EVO emblem shard 3 or EVO card catalog volume 2. There was an event that had a small chance of dropping the EVO emblem shard 3, but it's over. And I only got one from the event, anyway. I don't think that the EVO card catalog volume 2 has ever been in the game, unless you can get it at an infinitesimal probability from the port or something like that.

[Jeffrey Uy]

SR generals are, for the most part, a stopgap until you can get the SSR and UR generals that you really want. The only SR general that I've seen other players use much at endgame is Naoe Kagetsuna, and that's usually an SR Naoe Kagetsuna with another inherited SR Naoe Kagetsuna for huge regen. One other SR general worth mentioning is Usami Sadamitsu, for her skill to reduce the defense of all opposing units by 11%.

Mostly you want to focus early on on SR generals who have a useful skill to inherit, so that you can still get some use out of them for a while after you've got SSR generals. Healing skills remain useful for a long time, and I also like the +15% attack and defense skills.

*facepalm* I didn't know Naoe Kagetsuna is really popular and all I did was sacrifice extra. Darn, I'm such a noob. Now, I learn something new from the Master. ^_^

I'll save Nene SR or Naoe Kagetsuna SR / SSR and inherent same copy. (I need Hideyoshi for Nene though). BTW, is +SPD still ok?


For equipment, you generally have to accept that the stuff you forge up for a while to get to the endgame won't be the same equipment that you want to keep using in the endgame.

For weapons, I favor water gun and cursed nameless sword. Unfortunately for you, the water gun is from an event that has come and gone (though it will probably come again), while the cursed nameless sword comes from farming for cursed shards in 6-4. Other than that, you mostly want various event weapons that come and go.

For armors, among the easy to get ones, I favor the golden armor that drops in 5-3. Ultimate western armor is probably my favorite among the armors I've got, but that's also from an event that has come and gone. I use an original god of wind armor to change my generals' attack order, but that's kind of a gadget armor that you don't need more than one of. I also have a cursed nameless armor, which also comes from farming 6-4 and is useful mainly to ensure that the abilities on the cursed nameless sword will take effect. I've been leveling up an original nioh's armor (daily world boss, convoy 2-3) lately because it seems like it might be useful in pvp.

For accessories, a hatazirushi for your team leader is the indispensable one, and came from an event that just ended. I got two of them, so that my defense team could have one, too. I also have a Luis' traveler diary from an event. Among the easy to get accessories, zhan guo ce from level 5-4 is my favorite.

You can't get EVO emblem shard 3 or EVO card catalog volume 2. There was an event that had a small chance of dropping the EVO emblem shard 3, but it's over. And I only got one from the event, anyway. I don't think that the EVO card catalog volume 2 has ever been in the game, unless you can get it at an infinitesimal probability from the port or something like that.

Wow... So many events that I missed or failed to get. Oh well, I'll just wait for the next event. But first I need to bulk out.

[fuzzylogic]

You can't get EVO emblem shard 3 or EVO card catalog volume 2. There was an event that had a small chance of dropping the EVO emblem shard 3, but it's over. And I only got one from the event, anyway. I don't think that the EVO card catalog volume 2 has ever been in the game, unless you can get it at an infinitesimal probability from the port or something like that.

Yeah the EVO Emblem Shard 3 was on that event and can't remember which one. The EVO card catalog vol 2 is on the Oni Hanzo stage (the last stage) on the Sister's Wrath event but I didn't get any :(

[Semaphore]

*facepalm* I didn't know Naoe Kagetsuna is really popular and all I did was sacrifice extra. Darn, I'm such a noob. Now, I learn something new from the Master. ^_^

I'll save Nene SR or Naoe Kagetsuna SR / SSR and inherent same copy. (I need Hideyoshi for Nene though). BTW, is +SPD still ok?

Wow... So many events that I missed or failed to get. Oh well, I'll just wait for the next event. But first I need to bulk out.

There have been lots of events, and many of the event items are useless. Events tend to repeat after a while, probably because it's less work to re-run an old event than to create a new one.

I wouldn't call SR Naoe Kagetsuna "really popular". She's perhaps important to a regeneration heavy build, and the only SR general that gets used much at endgame. But she's hardly essential, and she's never been a regular part of my team.

Personally, I build heavily for speed and damage. If someone else builds heavily for speed and damage, I'll probably have more speed and more damage and win. Aargaez is the most notable other high speed, high damage player, though it is what a lot of players try for to some degree, perhaps partially because it clears most PVE content the fastest.

In PVP, some people build instead for reflect damage. Rimuru is perhaps the purest reflect damage build among strong players, though EarthCrimson and Temp lean pretty heavily in that direction, too. I tend to lose to a strong reflect-heavy player, as I might hit for 20k troops, which instant-kills my general from reflect damage, while their general survives because of Takenaka Hanbei or some such.

Reflect-heavy builds are vulnerable to builds that go very heavy on regeneration or lifesteal with more moderate damage. A heavy reflect damage build relies on killing high damage players with reflect damage, but the reflect damage doesn't kill a moderate damage player who can regenerate to compensate for the reflect damage. That's how TruelyNice beat Temp in the finals of the daimyo tournament two weeks ago.

But someone building too heavily for regeneration and lifesteal is open to being destroyed by a high speed, high damage build. Regeneration and lifesteal don't help if you're getting one-shotted. That's why last week, even though TruelyNice was the defending daimyo, I wiped out his entire team in the tournament before he even got to attack.

There is some degree of rock/paper/scissors to it, and winning daimyo depends substantially on luck of drawing opponents you match up well against while avoiding the ones you don't.

[Semaphore]

Yeah the EVO Emblem Shard 3 was on that event and can't remember which one. The EVO card catalog vol 2 is on the Oni Hanzo stage (the last stage) on the Sister's Wrath event but I didn't get any :(

No, the end stage that gave an EVO card catalog piece gave a piece that was already in the game, not the missing one.

[Jeffrey Uy]

There have been lots of events, and many of the event items are useless. Events tend to repeat after a while, probably because it's less work to re-run an old event than to create a new one.

I wouldn't call SR Naoe Kagetsuna "really popular". She's perhaps important to a regeneration heavy build, and the only SR general that gets used much at endgame. But she's hardly essential, and she's never been a regular part of my team.

Personally, I build heavily for speed and damage. If someone else builds heavily for speed and damage, I'll probably have more speed and more damage and win. Aargaez is the most notable other high speed, high damage player, though it is what a lot of players try for to some degree, perhaps partially because it clears most PVE content the fastest.

In PVP, some people build instead for reflect damage. Rimuru is perhaps the purest reflect damage build among strong players, though EarthCrimson and Temp lean pretty heavily in that direction, too. I tend to lose to a strong reflect-heavy player, as I might hit for 20k troops, which instant-kills my general from reflect damage, while their general survives because of Takenaka Hanbei or some such.

Reflect-heavy builds are vulnerable to builds that go very heavy on regeneration or lifesteal with more moderate damage. A heavy reflect damage build relies on killing high damage players with reflect damage, but the reflect damage doesn't kill a moderate damage player who can regenerate to compensate for the reflect damage. That's how TruelyNice beat Temp in the finals of the daimyo tournament two weeks ago.

But someone building too heavily for regeneration and lifesteal is open to being destroyed by a high speed, high damage build. Regeneration and lifesteal don't help if you're getting one-shotted. That's why last week, even though TruelyNice was the defending daimyo, I wiped out his entire team in the tournament before he even got to attack.

There is some degree of rock/paper/scissors to it, and winning daimyo depends substantially on luck of drawing opponents you match up well against while avoiding the ones you don't.

It does look like Rock/Paper/Scissor. I wonder what good build suits me. Oh well, time will tell. Thanks for the info, Master Semaphore *bows*

Guess I need to hunt gets some regen then. Thanks again.

Edit: Tried to look for Mononofu wikia / guide but seem to be incomplete. I found this item at Arena and curious what this Bullhorn Helmet do.

[fuzzylogic]

No, the end stage that gave an EVO card catalog piece gave a piece that was already in the game, not the missing one.

Oh as I thought that was the missing EVO card catalog piece which is the volume 2. Sometimes I just look what the items are while the roulette is moving so I just thought that was the missing piece since it's the end stage. Thank you for the correction. Appreciate it XD

[Semaphore]

Wow... So many events that I missed or failed to get. Oh well, I'll just wait for the next event. But first I need to bulk out.

You were certainly there for the hatazirushi event, as you were on my friends list well before the event started. It's possible that you weren't yet strong enough to beat the opponents that drop it. It's also decently likely that you could have gotten the item but didn't realize that it was a really nice item and should have been your top priority in what to do while playing during the event until you got one.

There were two opponents that could drop it, with one substantially stronger than the other, and you could only beat them each 30 times per day. The hatazirushi had a drop rate of about 0.5%, so it could easily take several days to get one. But there are far more opponents that you can fight each day than you actually have time to fight, so you have to find the best ones.

In the case of the hatazirushi, I looked it up on the Japanese wiki, which is linked at the start of this thread. I don't know Japanese, and Google translate often comes out fairly garbled. But while you can't count on the name on the Japanese wiki matching the English version, the icons are always identical. From the item effects on the Japanese wiki, it looked like the item (which Google translates as something like "banner flag") might be really nice, so I fought the opponents that drop it until I got one.

[Jeffrey Uy]

You were certainly there for the hatazirushi event, as you were on my friends list well before the event started. It's possible that you weren't yet strong enough to beat the opponents that drop it. It's also decently likely that you could have gotten the item but didn't realize that it was a really nice item and should have been your top priority in what to do while playing during the event until you got one.

There were two opponents that could drop it, with one substantially stronger than the other, and you could only beat them each 30 times per day. The hatazirushi had a drop rate of about 0.5%, so it could easily take several days to get one. But there are far more opponents that you can fight each day than you actually have time to fight, so you have to find the best ones.

In the case of the hatazirushi, I looked it up on the Japanese wiki, which is linked at the start of this thread. I don't know Japanese, and Google translate often comes out fairly garbled. But while you can't count on the name on the Japanese wiki matching the English version, the icons are always identical. From the item effects on the Japanese wiki, it looked like the item (which Google translates as something like "banner flag") might be really nice, so I fought the opponents that drop it until I got one.

Yeah pretty much a weakling. At least you notice me during that event. I also found the site you mention. Good info and I'm surprised there LR rarity. LOL.

[Semaphore]

With the great soul ticket even drawing to a close, there are a few things that I think are striking. One is that there's a huge dichotomy between players who went all on in farming soul tickets and those that didn't. Aargaez is currently #1, having beaten it 14809 times. I'm #10, with 8035. #15 only has 2150, or barely 1/4 of what I have at #10. If you only count what I've done in the last 15 hours, that would be good for #21 on the list. A lot of people might say, oh, I couldn't beat the boss 8035 times because it takes me 3 attempts or 5 attempts or whatever. But you didn't start 8035 battles, either.

Another interesting thing is that the very top of the list isn't a cluster of the very strongest players. The players in the 7-14 range tend to be much more powerful, both in PVP and PVE, than those in the 1-6 range. The 7-14 range includes 4 of the 5 players who have been daimyo in the last three months, for example, and 3 of the 4 who have completely cleared the PVE campaign. Something similar to this happened the last time this event ran, too. I thought that some players who finished very high then might use their 100+ soul tickets to vault into the top tier and seriously contend for winning daimyo, but it really didn't happen.

In my case, the ticket to the top tier was the water gun event that also gave a lot of SSR EVO cards. I got 12 SSR EVO cards to drop from that event. But rather than spending them on whichever SSR generals seemed nice at the time, I saved them and spent most of them on SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai when I could draw her, sometimes a month or two later. Having a ton of soul tickets helps, but it's no replacement for using your EVO cards on the right generals.

My final observation is that either the drop rate was increased or I was much luckier this time. If you convert all souls dropped from the event to soul tickets, last time, I got about 100 tickets in 6515 wins, or about 1 ticket per 65 wins. This time, I got about 160 soul tickets in 8035 wins, or about 1 ticket per 50 wins. The mix of souls and soul tickets and not having exact counts means that I can't do exact statistical computations. But my intuition is that that difference is likely to be statistically significant, as I've got a large enough sample size.

[Jeffrey Uy]

With the great soul ticket even drawing to a close, there are a few things that I think are striking. One is that there's a huge dichotomy between players who went all on in farming soul tickets and those that didn't. Aargaez is currently #1, having beaten it 14809 times. I'm #10, with 8035. #15 only has 2150, or barely 1/4 of what I have at #10. If you only count what I've done in the last 15 hours, that would be good for #21 on the list. A lot of people might say, oh, I couldn't beat the boss 8035 times because it takes me 3 attempts or 5 attempts or whatever. But you didn't start 8035 battles, either.

Another interesting thing is that the very top of the list isn't a cluster of the very strongest players. The players in the 7-14 range tend to be much more powerful, both in PVP and PVE, than those in the 1-6 range. The 7-14 range includes 4 of the 5 players who have been daimyo in the last three months, for example, and 3 of the 4 who have completely cleared the PVE campaign. Something similar to this happened the last time this event ran, too. I thought that some players who finished very high then might use their 100+ soul tickets to vault into the top tier and seriously contend for winning daimyo, but it really didn't happen.

In my case, the ticket to the top tier was the water gun event that also gave a lot of SSR EVO cards. I got 12 SSR EVO cards to drop from that event. But rather than spending them on whichever SSR generals seemed nice at the time, I saved them and spent most of them on SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai when I could draw her, sometimes a month or two later. Having a ton of soul tickets helps, but it's no replacement for using your EVO cards on the right generals.

My final observation is that either the drop rate was increased or I was much luckier this time. If you convert all souls dropped from the event to soul tickets, last time, I got about 100 tickets in 6515 wins, or about 1 ticket per 65 wins. This time, I got about 160 soul tickets in 8035 wins, or about 1 ticket per 50 wins. The mix of souls and soul tickets and not having exact counts means that I can't do exact statistical computations. But my intuition is that that difference is likely to be statistically significant, as I've got a large enough sample size.

You're one lucky player. ^_^

EDIT: It's Maintenance Time, I wonder what's for us.

[Machcio]

Now that's one hell of a dungeon this time.

100% assured, 100% achievable way to get UR Evo card.
Buckle up kids, it's grinding time.


And this Kaneko Sword seems to be cherry on top. I think it might be pretty interesting to try it on Tiger of Kai.

[fuzzylogic]

Now that's one hell of a dungeon this time.

100% assured, 100% achievable way to get UR Evo card.
Buckle up kids, it's grinding time.


And this Kaneko Sword seems to be cherry on top. I think it might be pretty interesting to try it on Tiger of Kai.

+1 to this post.

Not only you would be able to farm for the ingredients but also you would be able to gather lots of exp cards. Hooray! XD

[fuzzylogic]

Now that's one hell of a dungeon this time.

100% assured, 100% achievable way to get UR Evo card.
Buckle up kids, it's grinding time.


And this Kaneko Sword seems to be cherry on top. I think it might be pretty interesting to try it on Tiger of Kai.

The Takonamaka Kaneko Sword from last stage of the Halloween event is good too.

Level required is 30. Initial atk at level 0 is 250. Per upgrade level is I think around 40-45 atk bonus. Gives x2 focus fire on the primary target and heal block for 1 round. If worn by Uesugi Kenshin, deals 150% damage (the kaneko from trade is atk bonus). The upgrade cost is the same with Kuniosa sword, sword of light and shadow, modified nanban pistol, etc.

[Machcio]

If someone is still undecided about Pumpkin Dungeon, a little observation after first day (not as detailed as Semaphore does, but still)

I cleared 6 of 8 enemies in dung. left first two untouched, because I wanted to see if I can reliably get enough of more rare event items (less rare are easy enough to get so I didn't bother).

So, after 300 attacks how close I am to my UR Evo card? My drops were:

11 out of 20 required Witch Hats
13 out of 50 Jack-o-lanterns
40 out of 300 Spooky Ghosts
plus those that you get from getting stars on enemies and those from quests.

So YES, you DO WANT to farm this event, and you WANT to melt any koban you have into rations. I've been playing this game around six months and this is the best chance to get UR Evo I have seen.


EDIT:
I almost forgot. Did I mention crapton of exp cards and ocasional chance for golden tickets?

[Orion Lady]

A decent chance at UR evo, but at the same time drop rates of those items are so ridiculous low that getting any evo cards will be heavy grinding for the whole event time.

[Semaphore]

Original Himetsuru Sword from the end is junk. I haven't gotten a Takenomata Kaneko Sword from the end, but that looks like it might be useful for Uesugi Kenshin and useless otherwise. A comment on the Japanese Wiki makes it sound like the damage bonus might also apply to UR Dragon of Echigo. I'll check if I can get one.

Kaneko Sword (P) from the port, on the other hand, looks to me like top tier endgame quality gear. The Google translate of the Japanese wiki didn't make the description clear, but once you check the item's page, people say explicitly that it means a single target attack turns into two targets, two turns into three, and three turns into four.

Throw in that you increase Uesugi Kenshin's attack by 150% and that also turns Uesugi Kenshin into a top tier general worth comparing to Tiger of Kai, Sanada Yukitaka, and Master Strategist. I'll have to test it when I get one to see if that's really what it's doing. As of yesterday, Uesugi Kenshin was really only useful for reflect damage.

The opponents are also notably easy, so I pull all but Master Strategist off the team so that the battles can end faster rather than having to wait for a bunch of skills to stack.

[Semaphore]

The Kaneko Sword (P) is the key loot from this event. If you ignore it because you're chasing a UR EVO card, you forever forfeit the right to complain about having missed events. There are lots of sources of UR EVO cards, but not many of top of the line weapons. So you might as well pick up five of them, or at least three or four depending on how many characters who attack 4+ at a time you expect to have on your team.

[Foolinlove]

I don't know if i'm just getting bad luck or what but I don't think getting more than 2 or 3 at most of UR evo cards is going to happen even if u farm it every day for whole event. THe ghosts just do not seem to drop often enough to be able to support 300 of them for one trade. I currently have 52 ghosts 15 pumpkins and 12 witch hats after clearing the whole thing, and that is including the bonuses you get. So I really do not see how you can possibly collect enough for the UR cards to be the main focus. The sword looks way too powerful to pass up even for non Kenshin generals, adding an additional attack to every general would be so incredibly powerful. And as previous posters have said you can get UR cards from other sources, and this seems to be one of the best weapons in the game and not able to be gotten elsewhere.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Hmmm... I'll pick up 3 of this since 2 of them are Elite Archers (Onne is Master Strategst and the other is Cyclops). What about that Demon Hair Band?

Also, I like this event.

To Sir Semaphore: Takenomata Kaneko - Adds Focus Fire x2 and a Heal-block mark to the target, lasts for one round. Increase DMG by 150% when equipped to ??? (Kenshin?). (Sorry, no idea drag to second part.)

[Foolinlove]

Hmmm... I'll pick up 3 of this since 2 of them are Elite Archers (Onne is Master Strategst and the other is Cyclops). What about that Demon Hair Band?

Also, I like this event.

I really don't think the hairband is that great. The regen could be sorta useful i suppose but I much prefer the sparrow tail hood for that purpose, especially since the 10% extra regen is random who it targets. So there is a decent chance of getting almost no value other than the flat 5%. Not to mention it cuts into the very limited supply of pumpkin and witch hats needed for swords and ur cards.

[Jeffrey Uy]

I really don't think the hairband is that great. The regen could be sorta useful i suppose but I much prefer the sparrow tail hood for that purpose, especially since the 10% extra regen is random who it targets. So there is a decent chance of getting almost no value other than the flat 5%. Not to mention it cuts into the very limited supply of pumpkin and witch hats needed for swords and ur cards.

Alright. I'll just focus on Kaneko Sword and UR Evo from the Trade. Thanks for the help.

[fuzzylogic]

Original Himetsuru Sword from the end is junk. I haven't gotten a Takenomata Kaneko Sword from the end, but that looks like it might be useful for Uesugi Kenshin and useless otherwise. A comment on the Japanese Wiki makes it sound like the damage bonus might also apply to UR Dragon of Echigo. I'll check if I can get one.

Kaneko Sword (P) from the port, on the other hand, looks to me like top tier endgame quality gear. The Google translate of the Japanese wiki didn't make the description clear, but once you check the item's page, people say explicitly that it means a single target attack turns into two targets, two turns into three, and three turns into four.

Throw in that you increase Uesugi Kenshin's attack by 150% and that also turns Uesugi Kenshin into a top tier general worth comparing to Tiger of Kai, Sanada Yukitaka, and Master Strategist. I'll have to test it when I get one to see if that's really what it's doing. As of yesterday, Uesugi Kenshin was really only useful for reflect damage.

The opponents are also notably easy, so I pull all but Master Strategist off the team so that the battles can end faster rather than having to wait for a bunch of skills to stack.


The Takenomata Sword works on Dragon of Echigo. I have a level 35 Dragon of Echigo (changed from corsair to ghost ninja). Tried and compared using a level 40 Nodachi Collection (990 atk) to a level 15 Takenomata Kaneko (970 atk) on the Halloween event dungeon (the one that has the platinum ticket drop). When equipped, both have 3k atk and both are near to 3.1k... I just checked and its not on the same order as I was kinda sleepy that time XD

Nodachi Collection (level 40, 990 atk)

Normal attack - 1909 (2nd round)
With ghost ninja proc - 2863 (2nd round)


Takenomata Kaneko (level 15, 970 atk)

Normal attack - 2832 (2nd round)
With ghost ninja proc - 4131 (1st round)



Guess after that I was rewarded with an Ultra Exp Card but I don't know where I got that haha. I was just farming either at the last 2 stages and on the stage that has the Platinum Ticket drop

[fuzzylogic]

Got the Kaneko Sword (P) awhile ago and tested to some generals (mostly on the Halloween dungeon stages). It seems that the extra target ability of the said weapon does not work on generals that procs on additional targets (tested on Houzhouin Inshun and its still 2 targets when the cross shaped spear skill had been triggered, so it might be the same to SSR Andou and UR Kuroda). It does not work on generals or troop types that involve column attacks (both triggered and passive). But it works on black riders and marksmen (though have not checked on SSR Mori).

It works great on my kenshin bikini babe. Compared Kuniosa sword to the playful kaneko and the result was too good to be true. On the 2nd to the last stage of the Halloween dungeon, using kuniosa sword gave 10k damage to one target but when using playful kaneko, its 8k on the first target and 7k on the second. And take note its a level 40 kuniosa versus a level 0 playful kaneko.

This playful kaneko sword is one dangerous weapon most especially when its equipped by kenshin. Hope I would be able to see offensive type Uesugi Kenshins or Dragons of Echigo in next week's tournament.

[Semaphore]

The Takenomata Sword works on Dragon of Echigo. I have a level 35 Dragon of Echigo (changed from corsair to ghost ninja). Tried and compared using a level 40 Nodachi Collection (990 atk) to a level 15 Takenomata Kaneko (970 atk) on the Halloween event dungeon (the one that has the platinum ticket drop). When equipped, both have 3k atk and both are near to 3.1k... I just checked and its not on the same order as I was kinda sleepy that time XD

Nodachi Collection (level 40, 990 atk)

Normal attack - 1909 (2nd round)
With ghost ninja proc - 2863 (2nd round)


Takenomata Kaneko (level 15, 970 atk)

Normal attack - 2832 (2nd round)
With ghost ninja proc - 4131 (1st round)



Guess after that I was rewarded with an Ultra Exp Card but I don't know where I got that haha. I was just farming either at the last 2 stages and on the stage that has the Platinum Ticket drop

Thanks for the data. That sure looks like "deals 150% damage", not "increases damage by 150%", which would mean dealing 250% damage. I got one myself now and can read the end of the description as "Increases DMG by 150% when equipped by Uesugi", but that's probably a botched translation or a bad tooltip or something.

I'll have to check on whether the Kaneko Sword (P) is also "deals 150% attack" rather than what the tooltip of "Attack is increased by 150% when equipped by Uesugi Kenshin" says. I have one of those now as well, but need to level it up a ways for a cleaner comparison with existing gear.

If both weapons are really a 50% damage boost, not 150%, then that's a lot less interesting, in part because you have to use a not overly strong general to get the boost. Kaneko Sword should still be quite good for the effect of attacking an extra target, assuming that that isn't also restricted to Uesugi Kenshin and possibly Dragon of Echigo.

By the way, the character card that the sixth opponent can drop is a medium soul card, not a general or EVO card. I'm guessing that the cards that some other opponents drop is also a medium soul card.

[Semaphore]

After further consideration, I think it's interesting that the great soul ticket event did vastly more to strengthen my defense team than my offense team, or at least it will once I've leveled up the new generals. On the offense team, it let me replace Mori Motonari with SSR Naoe Kagetsuna, and an inherited Tiger of Kai by yet another Takeda Shingen of Kai. Both of those are good, but nothing revolutionary.

On my defense team, however, my new lineup will be some five of Tiger of Kai (demoted from being inherited by the offense team), Sanada Yukitaka (got another one to four stars), Uesugi Kenshin, Dragon of Echigo (got one to four stars), Cyclops (got one to four stars), and Mori Motonari. All of those except for Uesugi Kenshin would be new to my defense team. Throw on a newly inherited Takeda Shingen of Kai, an inherited Sasaki Kojiro (for first strike) and a Kaneko Sword (for a third target) for each of Tiger of Kai and Sanada Yukitaka, and maybe I can finally convince Ghot5Nevermore to stop attacking me in arena nearly every single night.

[Semaphore]

Let's throw some additional data in here. Four weapons options:

1) Nothing
2) Level 0 Takenomata Kaneko
3) Level 15 Kaneko Sword (P)
4) Level 65 Water Gun

Attack the fifth opponent of the Pumpkin Dream event with an elite marksman in a solo group and check only the damage dealt to the front target.

Level 55 Uesugi Kenshin, with an inherited SR Naoe Kagetsuna healing skill and no gear equipped besides a weapon:

No weapon: 3094
Takenomata Kaneko: 5094
Kaneko Sword (P): 6294
Water Gun: 6547

Level 45 Dragon of Echigo (four stars), with no inherited general and no gear equipped besides a weapon:

No weapon: 2661
Takenomata Kaneko: 4444
Kaneko Sword (P): 5643
Water Gun: 6110

Level 55 Saitoh Dohsan, with no inherited general and no gear equipped besides a weapon:

No weapon: 2066
Takenomata Kaneko: 2259
Kaneko Sword (P): 2819
Water Gun: 4291

Level 55 Takeda Shingen of Kai, with an inherited Takeda Shingen of Kai and also having a level 65 Golden Armor, level 65 Hatazirushi, and level 20 Perfect Buddha Statue equipped:

No weapon: 9070
Takenomata Kaneko: 9475
Kaneko Sword (P): 10640
Water Gun: 13738

Both Uesugi Kenshin and Dragon of Echigo are clearly getting some large bonuses from both the Takenomata Kaneko and Kaneko Sword (P) that Takeda Shingen of Kai and Saitoh Dohsan are not. I'd be inclined to call it a flat 150% damage from the Takenomata Kaneko, not an extra 150% damage.

I'm less inclined to say that that's the case case for attack, however. The attack ratings for Dragon of Echigo are:

No weapon: 2685
Kaneko Sword (P): 4146
Water Gun: 6904

If you assume 150% attack on the Kaneko Sword (P), that puts you at 6219 attack. The attack gap between Kaneko Sword (P) and Water Gun is still larger than the damage gap. You'd expect it to be the other way around, as Water Gun also decreases the defense of the enemy. If you assume 250% attack, which is how I'd read the tooltip, you're at 10365 attack, which should be way more than a Water Gun.

[Semaphore]

For what it's worth, the cards in the fourth and fifth opponents of Pumpkin Dream are small soul cards, not medium soul cards. Still soul cards, though.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Complicated but I think I understand a bit. Thanks for the info.

BTW, what is the best job for Uesagi Kenshin for Temple User? Also, I don't get what these Inheritor Gem for. I inherent a SR General but the Gem is still on my inventory. What's the point of this?

[fuzzylogic]

Thanks for the data. That sure looks like "deals 150% damage", not "increases damage by 150%", which would mean dealing 250% damage. I got one myself now and can read the end of the description as "Increases DMG by 150% when equipped by Uesugi", but that's probably a botched translation or a bad tooltip or something.

I'll have to check on whether the Kaneko Sword (P) is also "deals 150% attack" rather than what the tooltip of "Attack is increased by 150% when equipped by Uesugi Kenshin" says. I have one of those now as well, but need to level it up a ways for a cleaner comparison with existing gear.

If both weapons are really a 50% damage boost, not 150%, then that's a lot less interesting, in part because you have to use a not overly strong general to get the boost. Kaneko Sword should still be quite good for the effect of attacking an extra target, assuming that that isn't also restricted to Uesugi Kenshin and possibly Dragon of Echigo.

By the way, the character card that the sixth opponent can drop is a medium soul card, not a general or EVO card. I'm guessing that the cards that some other opponents drop is also a medium soul card.


Yeah its just a 50% boost on either atk or dmg on the two kaneko swords. Also read the latter posts of yours and I guess Takenomata is as good as replacement for Legendary Mumei Sword and other weapons whose general level requirement is 45 or below. The two Kaneko Swords are excellent for Kenshin but only the Kaneko Sword (P) can be an optional weapon for extra firepower. Takenomata Kaneko is only good disabling the hp regen of primary target opponent and can be a built in sideboard/meta for pvp.

The water gun is better than the Kaneko Sword (P) because the latter is of low level. If its the same level as of the water gun then there would be a huge difference in attack rating. But in pvp, I guess water gun would be the best weapon of choice.

[Machcio]

Ok, so a question from a little different topic.

Is there a general that is particulary good to be garrisoned in residence?
In barracs for example there is SR Naoe Kanetsugu that has skill increasing troop recruitment. Is tehere similar general for residence?

Or if not for what actually should I look for when assigning there? Not that I hava big choice. I just put someone who I have eveolved to 4 stars and can't fit into my team.

[Semaphore]

Ok, so a question from a little different topic.

Is there a general that is particulary good to be garrisoned in residence?
In barracs for example there is SR Naoe Kanetsugu that has skill increasing troop recruitment. Is tehere similar general for residence?

Or if not for what actually should I look for when assigning there? Not that I hava big choice. I just put someone who I have eveolved to 4 stars and can't fit into my team.

SR Shibata Katsuie is the one you're looking for. At level 55, she offers a 70% bonus to coins from the residence. And yes, the level of the general matters, not just whether she's four stars.

[Machcio]

And yes, the level of the general matters, not just whether she's four stars.

That much I know, I was just wondering if I can improve income more somehow. Thx for the info.

[Semaphore]

Hmmm... I'll pick up 3 of this since 2 of them are Elite Archers (Onne is Master Strategst and the other is Cyclops). What about that Demon Hair Band?

It's not that great, but it's probably superior to Original Zho Zhuan, at least if equipped by Uesugi Kenshin. I wouldn't make it my first priority, but the UR EVO card requires a ton of spooky ghosts, so many that you're probably only able to get one UR EVO card out of the event. It doesn't require so many witch hats or jack-o-lanterns to get the UR EVO card, so once you've gotten that and as many Kaneko Swords as you care to, you'll likely have enough items left over to get a Demon Hair Band or three if you want them. I'd wait until toward the end of the event after you've gotten everything else you wanted to make sure that you have items left over, though. It sure would be annoying to buy the hair bands first and end up one witch hat or jack-o-lantern short of being able to get the UR EVO card at the end of the event.

[Jeffrey Uy]

It's not that great, but it's probably superior to Original Zho Zhuan, at least if equipped by Uesugi Kenshin. I wouldn't make it my first priority, but the UR EVO card requires a ton of spooky ghosts, so many that you're probably only able to get one UR EVO card out of the event. It doesn't require so many witch hats or jack-o-lanterns to get the UR EVO card, so once you've gotten that and as many Kaneko Swords as you care to, you'll likely have enough items left over to get a Demon Hair Band or three if you want them. I'd wait until toward the end of the event after you've gotten everything else you wanted to make sure that you have items left over, though. It sure would be annoying to buy the hair bands first and end up one witch hat or jack-o-lantern short of being able to get the UR EVO card at the end of the event.

I just thought the same thing. I was planning to buy another Playful Kaneko but I decided to wait until the end. Who knows I might need UR EVO. Hehehe (Uhmmm... Remind me what Zho Zhuan do?)
BTW, I almost surpassed you in World Event Ranking earlier but decide not to because I respect you. Also, you're kind enough.
And something bugs me during this event. I'm not sure if I'm lucky or not but I get a lot of Takeda Nobushige SSR at Silver and more on Gold. Weird. (I wanted M. Strategist, Kenshin Uesagi and Tiger of Kai. huhuhu)

[fuzzylogic]

I just thought the same thing. I was planning to buy another Playful Kaneko but I decided to wait until the end. Who knows I might need UR EVO. Hehehe (Uhmmm... Remind me what Zho Zhuan do?)
BTW, I almost surpassed you in World Event Ranking earlier but decide not to because I respect you. Also, you're kind enough.
And something bugs me during this event. I'm not sure if I'm lucky or not but I get a lot of Takeda Nobushige SSR at Silver and more on Gold. Weird. (I wanted M. Strategist, Kenshin Uesagi and Tiger of Kai. huhuhu)

Try farming today's challenge (the exp card challenge every monday) and the last stage has a random drop of Universal EVO card. Who knows and you might get one so you would be able to exchange other event items aside from evo cards. 300 spooky ghosts is one large quantity and its random.

[Machcio]

300 ghosts seems much but they drop pretty good from lower mobs. For me the actual bottleneck are pumpkins. After buying two Kanekos I have hats for three another, but I'm out of pumpkins.

[Foolinlove]

300 ghosts seems much but they drop pretty good from lower mobs. For me the actual bottleneck are pumpkins. After buying two Kanekos I have hats for three another, but I'm out of pumpkins.

Yeah the witch hats seem to be ridiculously common for how few you need to purchase things. I've got 33 of them atm and i already purchased 3 swords lol.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Try farming today's challenge (the exp card challenge every monday) and the last stage has a random drop of Universal EVO card. Who knows and you might get one so you would be able to exchange other event items aside from evo cards. 300 spooky ghosts is one large quantity and its random.

I tried but failed to get them. (Just Freaking Coins.). I'm curious what that sword is.


300 ghosts seems much but they drop pretty good from lower mobs. For me the actual bottleneck are pumpkins. After buying two Kanekos I have hats for three another, but I'm out of pumpkins.

Now that you mention it. Pumpkins sure are harder than Witch's Hat. Weird. The only mob that highly gives you pumpkin is the one with a reward of Pumpkin and Purple Himetsuru.

[fuzzylogic]

I tried but failed to get them. (Just Freaking Coins.). I'm curious what that sword is.



Now that you mention it. Pumpkins sure are harder than Witch's Hat. Weird. The only mob that highly gives you pumpkin is the one with a reward of Pumpkin and Purple Himetsuru.

It is a munechika sword sheath as part when making a munechika sword. However, from previous posts they say that you won't be able to make one because a munechika hilt is not available.


To Machcio and Foolinlove :

Yeah it seems that the pumpkins are more difficult to obtain than of the witch hat. Exchange pumpkins and witch hats awhile ago to obtain the headband. It seems that the headband is not an armor but an accessory instead, and the hp bonus per upgrade is as the same as of the Original Analects. Guess I need to get 2 more of those

[Jeffrey Uy]

It is a munechika sword sheath as part when making a munechika sword. However, from previous posts they say that you won't be able to make one because a munechika hilt is not available.


To Machcio and Foolinlove :

Yeah it seems that the pumpkins are more difficult to obtain than of the witch hat. Exchange pumpkins and witch hats awhile ago to obtain the headband. It seems that the headband is not an armor but an accessory instead, and the hp bonus per upgrade is as the same as of the Original Analects. Guess I need to get 2 more of those

So... basically it's useless to me right now?

Analects? Are you referring 7% if only 1 left, Atl +15% and SPD +6%?

[Semaphore]

I tried but failed to get them. (Just Freaking Coins.). I'm curious what that sword is.



Now that you mention it. Pumpkins sure are harder than Witch's Hat. Weird. The only mob that highly gives you pumpkin is the one with a reward of Pumpkin and Purple Himetsuru.

I'm not sure why you think pumpkins are harder than witch hats. They're certainly not in an absolute sense. Perhaps you mean it takes longer to get 20 pumpkins than 6 witch hats? So far, I've gotten 166 spooky ghosts, 96 jack-o-lanterns, and 44 witch hats. If you conservatively assume that my 14 day total will double my 6 day total, that's good for 332, 192, and 88, respectively. Getting a UR EVO card and 5 kaneko sowrds would take 300, 150, and 50, which is considerably less than that.

[Jeffrey Uy]

I'm not sure why you think pumpkins are harder than witch hats. They're certainly not in an absolute sense. Perhaps you mean it takes longer to get 20 pumpkins than 6 witch hats? So far, I've gotten 166 spooky ghosts, 96 jack-o-lanterns, and 44 witch hats. If you conservatively assume that my 14 day total will double my 6 day total, that's good for 332, 192, and 88, respectively. Getting a UR EVO card and 5 kaneko sowrds would take 300, 150, and 50, which is considerably less than that.

I kinda forgot my record but I do recall that I get more Witch's Hat than Pumpkin. I guess I'm unlucky. XD

[Semaphore]

So... basically it's useless to me right now?

Analects? Are you referring 7% if only 1 left, Atl +15% and SPD +6%?

Original Analects seem to be a decently popular accessory because the base amount of troops that it gives is pretty high. I think the bonuses on it are underwhelming.

On another note, it looks like this week's daimyo tournament will have me face Aargaez in the round of 16 yet again, but with the bonus that the winner of that matchup goes all the way to the finals.

[Semaphore]

I kinda forgot my record but I do recall that I get more Witch's Hat than Pumpkin. I guess I'm unlucky. XD

Are you skipping something that drops jack-o-lanterns or something? I've been doing the last five opponents each day. It's too hard to compute exact probabilities, but I'd think that from my drops, jack-o-lanterns having a higher drop probability than witch hats would be statistically significant by a huge margin.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Original Analects seem to be a decently popular accessory because the base amount of troops that it gives is pretty high. I think the bonuses on it are underwhelming.

On another note, it looks like this week's daimyo tournament will have me face Aargaez in the round of 16 yet again, but with the bonus that the winner of that matchup goes all the way to the finals.

Good thing I kept one, just in case. Wishing you good luck on that Daimyo Tourney (I didn't participate this one because I'm not strong enough.).

[Semaphore]

Good thing I kept one, just in case. Wishing you good luck on that Daimyo Tourney (I didn't participate this one because I'm not strong enough.).

It's best to sign up every week. Even if you lose your first match, that's still a free 50k copper. Each win is worth at least an additional 100k. Two of the opponents I faced to get to the round of 32 had all of their attack, defense, and max troops values under 3k. Surely you could have beaten them, too, and then a comparable schedule means you get at least 250k copper for nothing.

For that matter, the defense team you've got up right now would have easily beaten two of the three opponents I faced, had a decent shot against the third, and might well beat several of the people who did make the round of 32.

[Jeffrey Uy]

It's best to sign up every week. Even if you lose your first match, that's still a free 50k copper. Each win is worth at least an additional 100k. Two of the opponents I faced to get to the round of 32 had all of their attack, defense, and max troops values under 3k. Surely you could have beaten them, too, and then a comparable schedule means you get at least 250k copper for nothing.

For that matter, the defense team you've got up right now would have easily beaten two of the three opponents I faced, had a decent shot against the third, and might well beat several of the people who did make the round of 32.

Ok, I'll participate. BTW, Takeda Nobushige with Regen Skill is good. She's so tough. XD I just need to give her a better weapon and armor.

EDIT: Are they kidding me? SSR Evo Card. Why not UR? Also why the every 5 day Reward has a Blue Background?

[Foolinlove]

Are you skipping something that drops jack-o-lanterns or something? I've been doing the last five opponents each day. It's too hard to compute exact probabilities, but I'd think that from my drops, jack-o-lanterns having a higher drop probability than witch hats would be statistically significant by a huge margin.

I am having the same thing as him happen. My totals have been 182 ghosts, 80 jack-o-lanterns and 82 witch hats doing the last 5 every day myself. I think we are just being unlucky =/

[fuzzylogic]

So... basically it's useless to me right now?

Analects? Are you referring 7% if only 1 left, Atl +15% and SPD +6%?

Yeah that's the one. So the demon hairband is a combination of Original Hanaire's ability (with a random 10% hp regen on a random general if worn by Kenshin) and the troop/hp bonus per upgrade that of the Original Analects, in which it can be equipped by a level 30 or higher general.

Seen the latter posts as I may too be having the same unlucky situation as experienced by Foolinlove. I have a low number of spooky ghosts (like 43 or something near that) because I just complete the last 3 stages.

As for this week's tournament, it seems that Nootaku was not part of the top 32 :(

[Semaphore]

EDIT: Are they kidding me? SSR Evo Card. Why not UR? Also why the every 5 day Reward has a Blue Background?

An SSR EVO card is the best daily login reward they've ever offered, though they did offer it once before, too. In some months, it has been some random junk SSR general for you to sacrifice.

[Semaphore]

I am having the same thing as him happen. My totals have been 182 ghosts, 80 jack-o-lanterns and 82 witch hats doing the last 5 every day myself. I think we are just being unlucky =/

Is the difference between your numbers and mine that you're getting too few jack-o-lanterns, or that you're getting too many witch hats? You're on pace to have enough for a UR EVO card, five Kaneko swords, and have a lot left over.

[Semaphore]

Seen the latter posts as I may too be having the same unlucky situation as experienced by Foolinlove. I have a low number of spooky ghosts (like 43 or something near that) because I just complete the last 3 stages.

As for this week's tournament, it seems that Nootaku was not part of the top 32 :(

You have a low number of spooky ghosts because you're not doing the opponents that drop them. The last two opponents don't drop spooky ghosts at all.

As for the tournament, sometimes people don't sign up, such as if they're on vacation. It's also possible for two very strong players to be matched against each other in the preliminary rounds. Once I got matched against Vermilion in the preliminary rounds.

[Foolinlove]

Is the difference between your numbers and mine that you're getting too few jack-o-lanterns, or that you're getting too many witch hats? You're on pace to have enough for a UR EVO card, five Kaneko swords, and have a lot left over.

Its not that I'm not getting enough lanterns, its just a waste to constantly get witch hats, especially on the last one where you can get 4 super exp cards lol. I get witch hats constantly from that fight in particular. There is no way im going to be able to spend all the hats I currently have, and there is still half the event left.

[Unregistered]

may i have a friend invite code? Does server matter?

[Jeffrey Uy]

An SSR EVO card is the best daily login reward they've ever offered, though they did offer it once before, too. In some months, it has been some random junk SSR general for you to sacrifice.

Hmmm... From what I remember that the first Monthly Reward was that Date Masamune (which I failed to get because I signed-up late). Still, I like UR better though but oh well, might as well evolve a SSR unit. Any recommended unit to evolve Sir Semaphore?


Is the difference between your numbers and mine that you're getting too few jack-o-lanterns, or that you're getting too many witch hats? You're on pace to have enough for a UR EVO card, five Kaneko swords, and have a lot left over.

I also soon to have 5 Kaneko but I'll choose to wait since the event will end at November 9. (I'm going to miss Frosty Realm Campaign).



As for the tournament, sometimes people don't sign up, such as if they're on vacation. It's also possible for two very strong players to be matched against each other in the preliminary rounds. Once I got matched against Vermilion in the preliminary rounds.

Just curious. What daylight time will they used?


may i have a friend invite code? Does server matter?

Right now, it's maintenance. I will check if what server we play and possible my friend's code.

EDIT: Looks like we have that event again. Just different name.

[Selius]

so i just got an ultra exp card from the last pumpkin dungeon fight.

shit is so cash. 650k exp before you even level it

[Jeffrey Uy]

so i just got an ultra exp card from the last pumpkin dungeon fight.

shit is so cash. 650k exp before you even level it

Good for you. :D

EDIT: Just spend 1.5k Koban on Hunter Summon. No Ur but i got those 2 new Generals.

[Semaphore]

Any recommended unit to evolve Sir Semaphore?

My philosophy on generals is that you can never have too many SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai. I've used 25 SSR EVO cards on her alone, which is why I have seven level 55 Takeda Shingen of Kai. Stacking six Koyo Gunkan buffs (one base Takeda Shingen of Kai on your team and five inherited) means that your entire team's attack and defense ratings are multiplied by about 2.313 and speed is multiplied by about 1.77. And that stacks with whatever other buffs you can find, too.

[thatoneguyfromwork]

Going to ask here since I feel kind of lost on who to focus on leveling since it's such a difficult thing in this game.

I know from reading on here that my 4 Star SR girls are going to outclass my 0 zero star UR and even my 1 star SSR. So the first SR girl I got I started feeding exp cards and training her like there is no tommorrow, got her to 55. Honda Tadakatsu, I upgraded her from Ninja to Veteran Ninja and gave her my 1 star SSR gear to make her as strong as possible. Now...the problem I'm having is she performs about on par with my 1 Star SSR maxed out, Toyotomi Hideyoshi with weaker gear.

So I feel like I screwed up in picking Honda to max out just because she was my first 4 star SR. I have since got more SR 4 stars; Mori Ranmaru, Imagawa Yoshimoto, Shimazu Iehisa, Ishida Mitsunari and Mori Terumoto.

Since I finished Honda I'm moving on to one of these girls. Which is best or should I hold on for a even better SR?

Looking at them, even though I know I don't have a good graps on stats and battle in this game. It seems to me that Shimazu Iehisa going to be my next focus. Please, let me know if there is a better option of what I put or if I should just wait for key girls to get 4 starred.

[Foolinlove]

Going to ask here since I feel kind of lost on who to focus on leveling since it's such a difficult thing in this game.

I know from reading on here that my 4 Star SR girls are going to outclass my 0 zero star UR and even my 1 star SSR. So the first SR girl I got I started feeding exp cards and training her like there is no tommorrow, got her to 55. Honda Tadakatsu, I upgraded her from Ninja to Veteran Ninja and gave her my 1 star SSR gear to make her as strong as possible. Now...the problem I'm having is she performs about on par with my 1 Star SSR maxed out, Toyotomi Hideyoshi with weaker gear.

So I feel like I screwed up in picking Honda to max out just because she was my first 4 star SR. I have since got more SR 4 stars; Mori Ranmaru, Imagawa Yoshimoto, Shimazu Iehisa, Ishida Mitsunari and Mori Terumoto.

Since I finished Honda I'm moving on to one of these girls. Which is best or should I hold on for a even better SR?

Looking at them, even though I know I don't have a good graps on stats and battle in this game. It seems to me that Shimazu Iehisa going to be my next focus. Please, let me know if there is a better option of what I put or if I should just wait for key girls to get 4 starred.

While I do not consider myself an expert, I managed to get past the sr part of the game fairly quickly. The 4 star generals only outperform strong ssr or ur generals when you can give them really powerful gear that can not be equipped at lower levels. If you are using gear that is equippable by lvl 35 or 40's the ssr or ur will be generally stronger if they are powerful ones, since their skills increase their dmg by a lot more. This is especially true with tiger of kai, and sanada yukitaka and master strategist. Both of those generals do more dmg than any sr even if they r at lvl 55 and they are 35. I personally only leveled up generals in sr that had either regen like Naoe and sr nene or attack increase skills that I could inherit once I was able to. Using the very limited experience cards on generals with trash skills like Mori is going to slow your advance down greatly. I had more success using a bunch of 2 or 3 star ssr generals until I managed to get gear that was not equippable by them. The honda is a decent general to have leveled since it has the +defence and offense skill to inherit until you get to better generals. I found that regen is one of the most useful things early on in the game and allowed me to clear things much stronger than should have been possible, and takenaka is especially useful for pushing against units that should wipe you out by surviving being destroyed multiple rounds sometimes. Even a 0 star takenaka can make a better tank than most other generals until you get to better gear simply because he is hard to put down if u put him in the strongest lane of the enemy attack.

[Foolinlove]

Looking at them, even though I know I don't have a good graps on stats and battle in this game. It seems to me that Shimazu Iehisa going to be my next focus. Please, let me know if there is a better option of what I put or if I should just wait for key girls to get 4 starred.

I forgot to reply to this part sorry. Out of the ones you mentioned the only ones with a decent skill is shimazu's first one. The other ones are really not worthwhile at all to me.

[fuzzylogic]

You have a low number of spooky ghosts because you're not doing the opponents that drop them. The last two opponents don't drop spooky ghosts at all.

As for the tournament, sometimes people don't sign up, such as if they're on vacation. It's also possible for two very strong players to be matched against each other in the preliminary rounds. Once I got matched against Vermilion in the preliminary rounds.


Yeah I am only focused on getting the Kaneko Sword (P) and the Demon Hairband. I just need one of each. But I might be able to catch up collecting spooky ghosts if I can craft the said equipments asap (already have 53 spooky ghosts and 21 pumpkins) or it depends if I would be hooked up on this week's event (The Tiger of Kai and friends army again).

As for the tournament, watched the battles of the top 32 players in which EarthCrimson made his Kenshin an offensive one and equipped with a Kaneko Sword (P). Hooray for offensive type Kenshins!!!! XD

Anyway it's kinda sucks when you are expecting a general that you want even if you had spent 1.5k kobans on the draw 11 tab. Used the kobans on the event that has greater chance of getting UR Kenshin (H) and got 3 SSRs. The 11th one was a SR Niwa Nagahide. It seems like I have a curse or something when it comes to random stuffs haha.

[fuzzylogic]

Going to ask here since I feel kind of lost on who to focus on leveling since it's such a difficult thing in this game.

I know from reading on here that my 4 Star SR girls are going to outclass my 0 zero star UR and even my 1 star SSR. So the first SR girl I got I started feeding exp cards and training her like there is no tommorrow, got her to 55. Honda Tadakatsu, I upgraded her from Ninja to Veteran Ninja and gave her my 1 star SSR gear to make her as strong as possible. Now...the problem I'm having is she performs about on par with my 1 Star SSR maxed out, Toyotomi Hideyoshi with weaker gear.

So I feel like I screwed up in picking Honda to max out just because she was my first 4 star SR. I have since got more SR 4 stars; Mori Ranmaru, Imagawa Yoshimoto, Shimazu Iehisa, Ishida Mitsunari and Mori Terumoto.

Since I finished Honda I'm moving on to one of these girls. Which is best or should I hold on for a even better SR?

Looking at them, even though I know I don't have a good graps on stats and battle in this game. It seems to me that Shimazu Iehisa going to be my next focus. Please, let me know if there is a better option of what I put or if I should just wait for key girls to get 4 starred.

SR Honda is useful for a new player because it can be used as part of your main army and on the long run it can be used as an Inherit feed general (the Mikawa Spirit ability most especially if you would have a UR Tohsho or SSR Tokugawa for higher chances). I do have a level 55 SR Shimazu but I am using her as Inherit feed (the 0.5% damage per level bonus related skill).

Just do the dailies so that you would able to get silver and gold tickets. If lucky you might be able to get a UR or SSR general on the gold ticket summon XD

[Selius]

how do i open chapter 5? the wiki is listing stuff from chapter 5 so im assuming we have it

i have full stars on everything else now. is it a scroll drop or what

[Foolinlove]

Yeah I am only focused on getting the Kaneko Sword (P) and the Demon Hairband. I just need one of each. But I might be able to catch up collecting spooky ghosts if I can craft the said equipments asap (already have 53 spooky ghosts and 21 pumpkins) or it depends if I would be hooked up on this week's event (The Tiger of Kai and friends army again).

As for the tournament, watched the battles of the top 32 players in which EarthCrimson made his Kenshin an offensive one and equipped with a Takenomata Sword to disable the troop regen of the opponent.

Anyway it's kinda sucks when you are expecting a general that you want even if you had spent 1.5k kobans on the draw 11 tab. Used the kobans on the event that has greater chance of getting UR Kenshin (H) and got 3 SSRs. The 11th one was a SR Niwa Nagahide. It seems like I have a curse or something when it comes to random stuffs haha.

I would not feel too bad about your results. I have completely given up on using kobans for those draws since I have done it 4 times at 1500 koban and each time I got a single ssr out of the whole series. And sr generals are utter trash for me at this point. =(

[fuzzylogic]

I would not feel too bad about your results. I have completely given up on using kobans for those draws since I have done it 4 times at 1500 koban and each time I got a single ssr out of the whole series. And sr generals are utter trash for me at this point. =(

I still won't lose hope even if that was my 3rd time haha. And the funny thing on that 2nd time of using draw 11 summon (that I got 3 SSRs overall), it was then followed by using the 6 gold tickets (that I got when completing the dailies) and got a UR Taikou.... a twisted fate of summon situations lol

[Semaphore]

Going to ask here since I feel kind of lost on who to focus on leveling since it's such a difficult thing in this game.

I know from reading on here that my 4 Star SR girls are going to outclass my 0 zero star UR and even my 1 star SSR. So the first SR girl I got I started feeding exp cards and training her like there is no tommorrow, got her to 55. Honda Tadakatsu, I upgraded her from Ninja to Veteran Ninja and gave her my 1 star SSR gear to make her as strong as possible. Now...the problem I'm having is she performs about on par with my 1 Star SSR maxed out, Toyotomi Hideyoshi with weaker gear.

So I feel like I screwed up in picking Honda to max out just because she was my first 4 star SR. I have since got more SR 4 stars; Mori Ranmaru, Imagawa Yoshimoto, Shimazu Iehisa, Ishida Mitsunari and Mori Terumoto.

Since I finished Honda I'm moving on to one of these girls. Which is best or should I hold on for a even better SR?

Looking at them, even though I know I don't have a good graps on stats and battle in this game. It seems to me that Shimazu Iehisa going to be my next focus. Please, let me know if there is a better option of what I put or if I should just wait for key girls to get 4 starred.

As SR generals go, Honda Tadakatsu is pretty good. You'll probably keep her for a long time for an inherited skill. I think the reason why she seems weak to you is that she's a veteran ninja, which really isn't a useful class. That's partially because the tier 3 classes are vastly weaker than the tier 4 classes, and partially because the ninja classes just aren't very good.

[Semaphore]

Yeah I am only focused on getting the Kaneko Sword (P) and the Demon Hairband. I just need one of each. But I might be able to catch up collecting spooky ghosts if I can craft the said equipments asap (already have 53 spooky ghosts and 21 pumpkins) or it depends if I would be hooked up on this week's event (The Tiger of Kai and friends army again).

As for the tournament, watched the battles of the top 32 players in which EarthCrimson made his Kenshin an offensive one and equipped with a Takenomata Sword to disable the troop regen of the opponent.

Anyway it's kinda sucks when you are expecting a general that you want even if you had spent 1.5k kobans on the draw 11 tab. Used the kobans on the event that has greater chance of getting UR Kenshin (H) and got 3 SSRs. The 11th one was a SR Niwa Nagahide. It seems like I have a curse or something when it comes to random stuffs haha.

I don't spend koban directly on summons anymore, as the soul ticket event especially made it far more valuable to spend it on rations and fast battle tickets. Even if 1500 koban is 75 rations and 750 fast battle tickets, that's probably good for about 12-15 soul tickets once you can beat the end boss in one battle. That's a lot more than you expect to get by buying a summon.

[Semaphore]

how do i open chapter 5? the wiki is listing stuff from chapter 5 so im assuming we have it

i have full stars on everything else now. is it a scroll drop or what

I don't remember how you open chapter 5. I think it's beating some particular opponent either on Siege of Takamatsu Castle at Bicchuu or Alternate History: Battle of Nagashino. I think that was the one where chapter 5 was added after I had beaten everything on chapter 4, so I had to go back and beat the various opponents once each until I found the right one and it unlocked chapter 5. Or maybe it was chapter 6 where I had that problem.

[Semaphore]

The new SSR Mori Terumoto should shake up the PVP metagame, as she's the counter to the popular Takenaka Hanbei corsairs. I plan to save my soul tickets from the new soul ticket event until she is added to the soul ticket summons. I got the SSR Naoe Kagetsuna that I wanted in the last soul ticket event (that only ended a week ago), so now there aren't any other generals in the soul summons that I urgently want.

[Selius]

I don't remember how you open chapter 5. I think it's beating some particular opponent either on Siege of Takamatsu Castle at Bicchuu or Alternate History: Battle of Nagashino. I think that was the one where chapter 5 was added after I had beaten everything on chapter 4, so I had to go back and beat the various opponents once each until I found the right one and it unlocked chapter 5. Or maybe it was chapter 6 where I had that problem.

i got it now. i had to beat the last 2 battles in siege of takamatsu castle again

thanks

[Jeffrey Uy]

My philosophy on generals is that you can never have too many SSR Takeda Shingen of Kai. I've used 25 SSR EVO cards on her alone, which is why I have seven level 55 Takeda Shingen of Kai. Stacking six Koyo Gunkan buffs (one base Takeda Shingen of Kai on your team and five inherited) means that your entire team's attack and defense ratings are multiplied by about 2.313 and speed is multiplied by about 1.77. And that stacks with whatever other buffs you can find, too.

You've spend all SSR Evo for that unit alone?! Oh I get it, you'll either inherit her to another inuit or inherit her with another unit.
Still not lucky to get her thpugh. huhuhu Oh btw, I apologize that I surpassed you on today's last Daily World Event.

I didn't know SR Honda is good for beginner.

[fuzzylogic]

I don't spend koban directly on summons anymore, as the soul ticket event especially made it far more valuable to spend it on rations and fast battle tickets. Even if 1500 koban is 75 rations and 750 fast battle tickets, that's probably good for about 12-15 soul tickets once you can beat the end boss in one battle. That's a lot more than you expect to get by buying a summon.

Yeah that is one good point to follow. The first time I encountered that event (The Tiger of Kai and friends army), I have to beat it like 5-7 times just to start the roulette spinning. The second event of the same army (The Vulture Legion), it took me 2-3 times just to get the reward and yes I had spent 100 kobans for the battle tickets in which it was worth it (1 soul ticket, 700-1200 souls, 2 SSR Takeda Shingen aside from the copper/equipment). Now on the Howling event, it took me 1-2 battles in which made think that my army is quite progressing. I just tested and still prioritizing the Halloween dungeon. Maybe I'll farm at Howling Dungeon next week if I see that the next event is not that interesting to farm at.

[thatoneguyfromwork]

Thanks for all those that commented. Some useful info there.


As SR generals go, Honda Tadakatsu is pretty good. You'll probably keep her for a long time for an inherited skill. I think the reason why she seems weak to you is that she's a veteran ninja, which really isn't a useful class. That's partially because the tier 3 classes are vastly weaker than the tier 4 classes, and partially because the ninja classes just aren't very good.

What do you think about changing the class. I haven't done that yet and I have a class change for every possible class in my inventory I think. Would it be worth going cavalry or infantry are those change items super rare and should be saved?

[fuzzylogic]

Thanks for all those that commented. Some useful info there.



What do you think about changing the class. I haven't done that yet and I have a class change for every possible class in my inventory I think. Would it be worth going cavalry or infantry are those change items super rare and should be saved?

It depends on what your current troop faction is (temple or church). Because bonuses from troop type training research give a big help to your army. For temple, go for the offensive types (go for aoe type troops if possible) since SR Honda has atk and def boost from her first skill (elite marksman or elite black rider). If church, it can be elite artillery, elite samurai or elite swordsman. But it all depends to you XD

Don't forget to unlock and finish the hidden dungeons on chapter 1 and chapter 2 so that you would have extra or reserved troop types to consider once your army would change.

[Foolinlove]

Thanks for all those that commented. Some useful info there.



What do you think about changing the class. I haven't done that yet and I have a class change for every possible class in my inventory I think. Would it be worth going cavalry or infantry are those change items super rare and should be saved?

I personally like elite black riders and guards the best of all unit types. The guards for my defense general/s and black riders for the damage. Unless they get a bonus for a specific troop type like master strategist with archer. The guard has by far the best overall defense and the riders seem to do the most damage overall.

[Semaphore]

Thanks for all those that commented. Some useful info there.



What do you think about changing the class. I haven't done that yet and I have a class change for every possible class in my inventory I think. Would it be worth going cavalry or infantry are those change items super rare and should be saved?

Class changes are cheap. You can get a first tier class change from the store for 500 kizuna. Kizuna is a little scarce early on when you're leveling lab skills, but I now have over 400k kizuna sitting there and not much to spend it on. Second tier class changes cost 30k copper from the store, so those are basically free. Third and fourth tier are a matter of, go to the level that drops them and beat that level until you get the one you want. Maybe you have to beat some random opponent 10 times to get the drop, but they generally come pretty quick.

Other than when you're very new to the game, there's little sense in using any generals who haven't been promoted to a fourth tier class. I wouldn't say it's cheap to switch classes back and forth at the drop of a hat, but getting a character to the class you want is fairly cheap.

One tip that I'd offer you is, if you get class change items in your mailbox, leave them in your mailbox until you're ready to use them. That way, you can keep them around and not waste inventory space.

If you go temple, the main classes are elite guard, elite black rider, and elite marksman. If you go church, the main classes are corsair, heavy artillery, and heavy knight. Or at least, that's about all that people use in PVP.

Personally, I've mostly moved away from tanking and healing, and instead rely on killing opponents before they get to attack. That's sometimes trouble when facing corsair-heavy opponents, but seems to be the optimal strategy in most places.

For example, in the current soul ticket event, I don't just beat the boss in one battle. I beat it in one round, and half of the time with only three of my generals having to attack before I've won. A tank and heal heavy approach might also beat the boss in one battle, but if it takes three or four rounds, then you fight massively fewer battles in the same amount of time unless you're burning fast battle tickets.

[Semaphore]

Yeah that is one good point to follow. The first time I encountered that event (The Tiger of Kai and friends army), I have to beat it like 5-7 times just to start the roulette spinning. The second event of the same army (The Vulture Legion), it took me 2-3 times just to get the reward and yes I had spent 100 kobans for the battle tickets in which it was worth it (1 soul ticket, 700-1200 souls, 2 SSR Takeda Shingen aside from the copper/equipment). Now on the Howling event, it took me 1-2 battles in which made think that my army is quite progressing. I just tested and still prioritizing the Halloween dungeon. Maybe I'll farm at Howling Dungeon next week if I see that the next event is not that interesting to farm at.

What I do is to clear the final five opponents of pumpkin dream first, which takes a little over an hour. The opponents are very weak, so I pull all but one general off my team so that I don't have to wait so long through various skills taking effect. I need Master Strategist for the last three, but then switch to Saitoh Dohsan with a Playful Kaneko Sword equipped so that I can kill them much more quickly while only having to wait for the weapon skill to take effect rather than a whole long list of things. I intermittently read something else while doing this. For example, that's what I'm doing right now as I type this.

Once I've cleared that part of pumpkin dream, whatever time remaining I'm on the computer for the day, start another battle of the howling pass event if I notice that the previous one has finished. That seems to be good for around 100 clears of it if I'm at work most of the day, or probably more like 300 on weekends. Winning in one round, not just one battle, helps a lot.

[Foolinlove]

Has anyone noticed a drop in soul tickets in this current event in comparison to the last one, or am I just having really bad luck so far? I have been clearing it as much as last time and instead of getting 8-10 soul ticket drops a day I have only gotten 3. On the other hand the amount of souls seems to be way higher, since I have collected something like 8000 or so a day of souls. I'm only asking because I'm not sure if they cut the rate of the soul ticket drop or my luck has just been skewed this run.

[Semaphore]

Has anyone noticed a drop in soul tickets in this current event in comparison to the last one, or am I just having really bad luck so far? I have been clearing it as much as last time and instead of getting 8-10 soul ticket drops a day I have only gotten 3. On the other hand the amount of souls seems to be way higher, since I have collected something like 8000 or so a day of souls. I'm only asking because I'm not sure if they cut the rate of the soul ticket drop or my luck has just been skewed this run.

You get 8-10 soul tickets per day, not counting from souls? Assuming a 1% soul ticket drop rate, that would put you over 500 million points for the event. On my server, that would have been good for about #2 or #3 server-wide. I'm not saying it's impossible, but did you really play the event as much as you're claiming?

[Semaphore]

Jeffrey Uy, I saw you at #1 in the daily world boss fairly late in the event. Unfortunately for you, that event pretty heavily favors people who can rack up more score per battle. In order to get above whatever rank threshold you're aiming for, you have to either be able to run up score fast enough that others can't pass you, or make it expensive enough that they won't try.

For example, let's suppose that you can kill 500k troops per battle and someone else can kill 1 million troops per battle. Let's suppose that within 1 minute left in the event, you have the same score, and there is time for 8 battles left. The person you're competing against knows that he can drop another 8 million points on his score in that minute, while you can only do 4 million. He might decide to do 5 million just so that you can't beat him and stop. If he's 3 million points behind you, he knows that he can catch up. This often leads to the people who can't put points on the board as fast just declining to compete at all.

In order for you to win, you have to either happen to hit a day when no one capable of running up a score in a hurry cares to, or else be so far ahead that people who look at it decide it's not worth what it would cost to catch you. Had you been #1 by a margin of 30 million points with 5 minutes to go, it's likely that no one decides to challenge you for #1 even if they could, as it's simply too expensive to bother.

As for no one else caring, I once got #1 with a score of about 20 million. I don't get #1 often, because I don't want to burn a ton of koban on it. Speaking of koban, on days when koban is the reward, a score of 50 million isn't even guaranteed to put you in the top 10.

People also tend to try to score just above the threshold for a big reward, not just below it. Sometimes #3 gives far better rewards than #2. Sometimes #10 gives far better rewards than #11. When there is such a drop off, you'll see a lot more competition from people trying to get the better reward rather than the lesser one.

On the bright side, by pushing Aqua-chain, Rimuru, and Neowarden to have to put up more points than they would otherwise have in order to finish in the top 3, you might be primarily responsible for allowing everyone on the server to clear one convoy more than they would have otherwise. Whether you value that or not is up to you.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Jeffrey Uy, I saw you at #1 in the daily world boss fairly late in the event. Unfortunately for you, that event pretty heavily favors people who can rack up more score per battle. In order to get above whatever rank threshold you're aiming for, you have to either be able to run up score fast enough that others can't pass you, or make it expensive enough that they won't try.

For example, let's suppose that you can kill 500k troops per battle and someone else can kill 1 million troops per battle. Let's suppose that within 1 minute left in the event, you have the same score, and there is time for 8 battles left. The person you're competing against knows that he can drop another 8 million points on his score in that minute, while you can only do 4 million. He might decide to do 5 million just so that you can't beat him and stop. If he's 3 million points behind you, he knows that he can catch up. This often leads to the people who can't put points on the board as fast just declining to compete at all.

In order for you to win, you have to either happen to hit a day when no one capable of running up a score in a hurry cares to, or else be so far ahead that people who look at it decide it's not worth what it would cost to catch you. Had you been #1 by a margin of 30 million points with 5 minutes to go, it's likely that no one decides to challenge you for #1 even if they could, as it's simply too expensive to bother.

As for no one else caring, I once got #1 with a score of about 20 million. I don't get #1 often, because I don't want to burn a ton of koban on it. Speaking of koban, on days when koban is the reward, a score of 50 million isn't even guaranteed to put you in the top 10.

People also tend to try to score just above the threshold for a big reward, not just below it. Sometimes #3 gives far better rewards than #2. Sometimes #10 gives far better rewards than #11. When there is such a drop off, you'll see a lot more competition from people trying to get the better reward rather than the lesser one.

On the bright side, by pushing Aqua-chain, Rimuru, and Neowarden to have to put up more points than they would otherwise have in order to finish in the top 3, you might be primarily responsible for allowing everyone on the server to clear one convoy more than they would have otherwise. Whether you value that or not is up to you.

Before I speak, Let me first apologize again that I surpass your World Event Ranking. I meant no offense, just liking the reward of Soul. And Thanks for noticing me. Also, I care, when I participated first time on World Event. I notice you, Aargaez and Temp being top 3. That's where I motivated to become stronger like you. But still end up being a weakling. huhuhu

Tbh, I was enjoying battling with Neowarden. What pissed me off is Rimuru. I'm not sure how he did it so fast. (Aside from using Fast Battle Ticket). Not only that I spent 150 Koban to buy Fast Battle Tickets and still end up 4th. I need more advice on what to do to become better at World Event. (and hoping not to surpass you again *bows).

[Semaphore]

Before I speak, Let me first apologize again that I surpass your World Event Ranking. I meant no offense, just liking the reward of Soul. And Thanks for noticing me. Also, I care, when I participated first time on World Event. I notice you, Aargaez and Temp being top 3. That's where I motivated to become stronger like you. But still end up being a weakling. huhuhu

Tbh, I was enjoying battling with Neowarden. What pissed me off is Rimuru. I'm not sure how he did it so fast. (Aside from using Fast Battle Ticket). Not only that I spent 150 Koban to buy Fast Battle Tickets and still end up 4th. I need more advice on what to do to become better at World Event. (and hoping not to surpass you again *bows).

Don't apologize for scoring higher than I do in a world boss. Even from a purely selfish perspective, if more other people score higher, that unlocks more convoys, which tends to mean I get more rations, so I benefit. If so many other people were to rush through the world bosses that I could never even crack the top 10, that would probably mean about an extra 30 standard rations per day for me, and then I could stop spending koban on rations.

As for how people score highly, some people build more heavily for a good world boss team than others. I personally build more for beating top end PVE such as the soul ticket event boss, though I have plans to build for world bosses soonish. (I need to draw one more SSR Sanada Yukitaka and three more cursed shards for what I have planned, and then level up the general and the sword.)

One way to do it is to stack as many buffs as you can so that you have one character dealing as much damage to a single target as possible. That's the route I plan to go. It goes something like this:

Sanada Yukitaka (lots of damage buffs)
inherited Tiger of Kai (deals 350% damage)
Elite Crimson Rider class (+35% damage in first round)
five Koyo Gunkan buffs elsewhere on the team (+15% attack each)
Wind of Echigo buff (+20% damage)
Hatazirushi from the team leader (+10% attack)
level 65 Cursed Nameless Sword (+50% damage)
level 65 Cursed Nameless Armor (+20 power)
level 65 Zhan Guo Ce (+35% damage)
level 20 Perfect Emerald in port (+9.5% damage)
lots of high rank lab and temple skills (my current median skill level is 43)

I figure that should be good for about 1 million damage in the first round from that one general alone. In most world boss battles, that will be, do one hit for 1 million damage and instantly die of reflect damage. But I'll move her around some and in battles where I don't die on the first round, do a ton of additional damage on each subsequent round. Throw in several hundred thousand damage from other generals on the team, and I expect that would be good for about 1.5 million damage per battle if I can't line up well, and perhaps 2-4 million damage per battle against opponents 5, 6, 7, 9, and 11 on a map, at least until people kill the enemies that don't deal reflect damage.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Don't apologize for scoring higher than I do in a world boss. Even from a purely selfish perspective, if more other people score higher, that unlocks more convoys, which tends to mean I get more rations, so I benefit. If so many other people were to rush through the world bosses that I could never even crack the top 10, that would probably mean about an extra 30 standard rations per day for me, and then I could stop spending koban on rations.

As for how people score highly, some people build more heavily for a good world boss team than others. I personally build more for beating top end PVE such as the soul ticket event boss, though I have plans to build for world bosses soonish. (I need to draw one more SSR Sanada Yukitaka and three more cursed shards for what I have planned, and then level up the general and the sword.)

One way to do it is to stack as many buffs as you can so that you have one character dealing as much damage to a single target as possible. That's the route I plan to go. It goes something like this:

Sanada Yukitaka (lots of damage buffs)
inherited Tiger of Kai (deals 350% damage)
Elite Crimson Rider class (+35% damage in first round)
five Koyo Gunkan buffs elsewhere on the team (+15% attack each)
Wind of Echigo buff (+20% damage)
Hatazirushi from the team leader (+10% attack)
level 65 Cursed Nameless Sword (+50% damage)
level 65 Cursed Nameless Armor (+20 power)
level 65 Zhan Guo Ce (+35% damage)
level 20 Perfect Emerald in port (+9.5% damage)
lots of high rank lab and temple skills (my current median skill level is 43)

I figure that should be good for about 1 million damage in the first round from that one general alone. In most world boss battles, that will be, do one hit for 1 million damage and instantly die of reflect damage. But I'll move her around some and in battles where I don't die on the first round, do a ton of additional damage on each subsequent round. Throw in several hundred thousand damage from other generals on the team, and I expect that would be good for about 1.5 million damage per battle if I can't line up well, and perhaps 2-4 million damage per battle against opponents 5, 6, 7, 9, and 11 on a map, at least until people kill the enemies that don't deal reflect damage.

Thank You Sempai. ^_^

Not sure where I can find those items your recommend but I'll get them eventually. Meaning it will take a while to get my hands on Rimuru. Grrrrr.

[Foolinlove]

You get 8-10 soul tickets per day, not counting from souls? Assuming a 1% soul ticket drop rate, that would put you over 500 million points for the event. On my server, that would have been good for about #2 or #3 server-wide. I'm not saying it's impossible, but did you really play the event as much as you're claiming?

I play on the 2nd server, and ended up finishing 5th since 3 people blitzed an insane amount on the last day or 2 after being firmly in 2nd for the entire event until last couple days. But i ended up getting something like 275 soul tickets total last event and close to half came from soul tickets. Can't remember the final tally for points though, i think it was like 415 million or so.

[Jeffrey Uy]

uhmmm... i found a new item from port. I thought at first it was Platinum Fragment but it says here Artifact Shard. Should I just keep it for that big Diamond?

[fuzzylogic]

What I do is to clear the final five opponents of pumpkin dream first, which takes a little over an hour. The opponents are very weak, so I pull all but one general off my team so that I don't have to wait so long through various skills taking effect. I need Master Strategist for the last three, but then switch to Saitoh Dohsan with a Playful Kaneko Sword equipped so that I can kill them much more quickly while only having to wait for the weapon skill to take effect rather than a whole long list of things. I intermittently read something else while doing this. For example, that's what I'm doing right now as I type this.

Once I've cleared that part of pumpkin dream, whatever time remaining I'm on the computer for the day, start another battle of the howling pass event if I notice that the previous one has finished. That seems to be good for around 100 clears of it if I'm at work most of the day, or probably more like 300 on weekends. Winning in one round, not just one battle, helps a lot.

Thanks for the tip... Appreciate it. There is one problem, I can't be online the whole time because I am using the android app haha. So I just have to check what to farm at my free time (aside from playing other android games in which I go online just for the dailies).

[Semaphore]

Thanks for the tip... Appreciate it. There is one problem, I can't be online the whole time because I am using the android app haha. So I just have to check what to farm at my free time (aside from playing other android games in which I go online just for the dailies).

It's hard to be competitive in this game if you can't spend some hours per day mostly doing something else, but occasionally clicking back to the game window to see if the previous battle has ended, and if so, start the next. You don't need to focus on playing the game for hours per day, but it really helps if you can have the game running while reading or playing a different game or whatever, and occasionally start a new battle if the previous one has ended.

[Foolinlove]

It's hard to be competitive in this game if you can't spend some hours per day mostly doing something else, but occasionally clicking back to the game window to see if the previous battle has ended, and if so, start the next. You don't need to focus on playing the game for hours per day, but it really helps if you can have the game running while reading or playing a different game or whatever, and occasionally start a new battle if the previous one has ended.

I definitely agree that running this at the same time as doing other things helps a lot. It's really the only way you can clear things enough times without burning an insane amount of fast battle tickets. And since using my limited supply of koban for those just isn't gonna happen, I never have enough battle tickets for anything other than the daily world bosses.

[DawnOfWar]

Hello, I just came here because I'm gifting my account of s3 with the id: DawnOfWar. (current daimio of s3)

I just don't have enough free time so better than to delete it I prefer to give it to someone.

If you are interested pm me.

[Semaphore]

Well this is strange. The last two times that the soul ticket event ran, I burned through all of my koban to buy rations and fast battle tickets and then burned a ton of fast battle tickets. Both of those times, I ended the event at #10, and don't think I was ever higher than #5 or so early on in the event. Now I'm #2 on the server three days into the event in spite of doing the halloween event first each day and having not used a single fast battle ticket on either event. Did everyone collectively decide that they didn't want soul tickets anymore?

[Foolinlove]

Well this is strange. The last two times that the soul ticket event ran, I burned through all of my koban to buy rations and fast battle tickets and then burned a ton of fast battle tickets. Both of those times, I ended the event at #10, and don't think I was ever higher than #5 or so early on in the event. Now I'm #2 on the server three days into the event in spite of doing the halloween event first each day and having not used a single fast battle ticket on either event. Did everyone collectively decide that they didn't want soul tickets anymore?

I think most people are still doing the pumpkin event as well, which means unless they r buying rations they can't do much of the soul ticket event. On the 2nd server it's pretty slow as well in comparison to last time. It will probably change once this event ends and people don't have something else to try for.

[Machcio]

Well this is strange. The last two times that the soul ticket event ran, I burned through all of my koban to buy rations and fast battle tickets and then burned a ton of fast battle tickets. Both of those times, I ended the event at #10, and don't think I was ever higher than #5 or so early on in the event. Now I'm #2 on the server three days into the event in spite of doing the halloween event first each day and having not used a single fast battle ticket on either event. Did everyone collectively decide that they didn't want soul tickets anymore?


Soul tickets events return pretty regularly, while items from halloween event may never be available again (next halloween may be completely different event) so I guess most people assume it's better safe than sorry and try to farm halloween event as much as possible

[fuzzylogic]

It's hard to be competitive in this game if you can't spend some hours per day mostly doing something else, but occasionally clicking back to the game window to see if the previous battle has ended, and if so, start the next. You don't need to focus on playing the game for hours per day, but it really helps if you can have the game running while reading or playing a different game or whatever, and occasionally start a new battle if the previous one has ended.

Yeah even if I have some get together with friends or if I do chores or if I am doing my duty in the family business, I am still playing mononofu and some selected nutaku games :)

[fuzzylogic]

Soul tickets events return pretty regularly, while items from halloween event may never be available again (next halloween may be completely different event) so I guess most people assume it's better safe than sorry and try to farm halloween event as much as possible

That is so true because this is the third Tiger of Kai and friends event that I have experienced so far (don't know if there were previous ones before August). I do have a lot of 3 and 4 star generals (just one 4 star SSR) but they are just on the waiting list. So not only I am farming for the halloween ingredients but also exp cards. But I do have a hunch that the Christmas event might be another one like the Halloween or Paradise events (exchange of certain ingredients for some items at the port).

[Unregistered]

Well this is strange. The last two times that the soul ticket event ran, I burned through all of my koban to buy rations and fast battle tickets and then burned a ton of fast battle tickets. Both of those times, I ended the event at #10, and don't think I was ever higher than #5 or so early on in the event. Now I'm #2 on the server three days into the event in spite of doing the halloween event first each day and having not used a single fast battle ticket on either event. Did everyone collectively decide that they didn't want soul tickets anymore?

We Don't have rations to burn anymore

[Jeffrey Uy]

Is it me or Mononofu time got delayed by a hour?

EDIT: Yay! Good pull from 5x Soul Ticket. I got Cyclops, Date Masamune, Takayama Ukon, The Dragon of Ichigo, and Takeda Shingen of Kai

[Machcio]

Different topic - What is top limit of your inventory space, and is 100 koban per slot the last price tag?

[Semaphore]

Different topic - What is top limit of your inventory space, and is 100 koban per slot the last price tag?

I'm not sure, but I've bought quite a few inventory slots at 100 koban each and the price hasn't changed. I'm not sure how many slots I've bought with koban, but I now have 67 inventory slots.

[Unregistered]

Maximum is 100 slots and the pricetag is 100 koban per slot all the way to the end.

[Machcio]

thx. I'm sitting on 58 now but it's getting cramped.

[Jeffrey Uy]

100 huh? That's still good.

Do i really have to spend 50 Koban to participate on the tournament?

[Semaphore]

Do i really have to spend 50 Koban to participate on the tournament?

No. You can enter your initial team for free. If you want to subsequently change your team within the same tournament, that costs 50 koban. Changing your team is mainly for people who have made it to at least the round of 16 to that they've seen the teams of their possible opponents, and see that their current team will lose to an opponent, but but they'll win if they change it. You get 100 koban for winning a semifinal match and 200 for winning the finals, so a change that you reasonably expect will get you a victory in the semifinals is worth it.

[Jeffrey Uy]

No. You can enter your initial team for free. If you want to subsequently change your team within the same tournament, that costs 50 koban. Changing your team is mainly for people who have made it to at least the round of 16 to that they've seen the teams of their possible opponents, and see that their current team will lose to an opponent, but but they'll win if they change it. You get 100 koban for winning a semifinal match and 200 for winning the finals, so a change that you reasonably expect will get you a victory in the semifinals is worth it.

Boy, I'm such a noob. T_T I thought have to pay 50 koban as a Registration Fee.

BTW, what's up with the time delay?

[Semaphore]

Boy, I'm such a noob. T_T I thought have to pay 50 koban as a Registration Fee.

BTW, what's up with the time delay?

You can sign up for the tournament anytime between midnight Monday morning and 7 pm Tuesday. Everyone who signs up anywhere in that time interval is part of the same tournament. Preliminary matches to bring the field down to 32 happen on 8 pm Tuesday, then another round at 8 pm on each of Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. The semifinals and finals are at 8:30 pm and 9 pm on Friday. The timer is that you have to wait for the scheduled time of the next match before it takes place.

[Jeffrey Uy]

You can sign up for the tournament anytime between midnight Monday morning and 7 pm Tuesday. Everyone who signs up anywhere in that time interval is part of the same tournament. Preliminary matches to bring the field down to 32 happen on 8 pm Tuesday, then another round at 8 pm on each of Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. The semifinals and finals are at 8:30 pm and 9 pm on Friday. The timer is that you have to wait for the scheduled time of the next match before it takes place.

I did then there's a pop-up message about paying with 50 Koban. Wait, what about Daily World Event at 8pm?

[fuzzylogic]

I just tried one time for the weekly tournament like one or two months ago (won the first but lost to Cakeman on the 2nd round). There was a 50 koban fee and I didn't modify anything. I have a guess that the initial 50 koban fee would be waived if you were part of the top 8 or something from the previous week.

Anyway I guess I recently discovered that Ghost Ninja is the best troop type for SSR Uesugi Kenshin (S). Before the damage of that Kenshin bikini babe was like around 10k to 20k at Howling event (depending on the number of cavalry units I have in the army that was defeated). Just experimented since I have extra commando and shock troopers in the mailbox so I would be able to revert the said general to its previous troop type if I don't like the damage it would bring. Equipped the new Kenshin (S) with a level 40 Original Jintai Drum, a level 30 Kaneko Sword (S), and a level 20 Snow Fox Mask. Also placed an SSR Naoe that I got from Soul Ticket summon yesterday (just level 35). Then tried on the Tiger of Kai and friends army again to check the damage and survivability of the army. When the SR Yamagata and Baba skills (the +atk% bonus chance), the Ghost Ninja ability and the Inspire II from OJD triggered, it made a whopping 53k damage on that black rider although it was not the primary target. I was holding my dropped jaw up again when I saw the damage haha.

It seems that the Inspire and Ghost Ninja abilities have a trigger counter for each target if a single target or combat troop has a bonus target ability coming from an equipment or from a general skill (like SSR Houzhouin, SSR Andou or that SSR version of Bear of Hizen). But I am not sure if Inspire works the same way on aoe type troops (example would be marksman - normal on primary, with inspire proc on 2nd and normal on 3rd target).

[fuzzylogic]

You can sign up for the tournament anytime between midnight Monday morning and 7 pm Tuesday. Everyone who signs up anywhere in that time interval is part of the same tournament. Preliminary matches to bring the field down to 32 happen on 8 pm Tuesday, then another round at 8 pm on each of Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. The semifinals and finals are at 8:30 pm and 9 pm on Friday. The timer is that you have to wait for the scheduled time of the next match before it takes place.

My apologies as you were definitely correct that there is no registration fee involved. Went to base to make my main PVE army on the offensive side (I don't have a reliable PvP army because my corsair related generals are only level 35 haha). Then arena, then weekly tournament, then modify generals. The registration is successful once the modified generals interface would be closed and it would show the generals on the 5 empty boxes. Maybe I accidentally tapped "send generals 50 koban" that time XD

[Unregistered]

the 3th skill of MAster Strategist is wrong translate or what happen? i put her as elite marskman, but she don't attak all enemy unit...

[fuzzylogic]

the 3th skill of MAster Strategist is wrong translate or what happen? i put her as elite marskman, but she don't attak all enemy unit...

The said general should be at least level 30 for the 3rd skill to work XD

[fuzzylogic]

Hmm I saw Temp having UR Uesugi Kenshin (H) as its leader on the tournament sched.... I want that :(

[Machcio]

Hmm I saw Temp having UR Uesugi Kenshin (H) as its leader on the tournament sched.... I want that :(

Either he was extremely lucky or he burned a ton of koban to get her. UR chances being as usual... :)

But one or two more Kenshin versions and they may have enough of them to make event whare you have bigger chances to get all of those versions :D

And compared to equipment I had until now, Kaneko Swords are almost not fair. Almost :)

[Jeffrey Uy]

I still don't get how's this tourney goes.

EDIT: I wonder what's next for us after maintenance Also, will the Halloween Event Items stays in my Inventory for next year? And will they fix my timer? It's still delayed by a hour.

[fuzzylogic]

Either he was extremely lucky or he burned a ton of koban to get her. UR chances being as usual... :)

But one or two more Kenshin versions and they may have enough of them to make event whare you have bigger chances to get all of those versions :D

And compared to equipment I had until now, Kaneko Swords are almost not fair. Almost :)

Yeah super lucky Temp. Already had 3 different versions of Uesugi Kenshins and just want the Halloween version, like a collection thingy.

Already exchanged the Halloween event ingredients for the 3rd Kaneko Sword (P) and 3rd hairband, as well as 1 SSR and 1 SR evolved cards (only got 158 spooky ghosts overall haha). And kept one Takenomata Sword as it might come in handy for PvP. That playful Kaneko is a weapon that makes an offensive general even more dangerous.

[Jeffrey Uy]

Yeah super lucky Temp. Already had 3 different versions of Uesugi Kenshins and just want the Halloween version, like a collection thingy.

Already exchanged the Halloween event ingredients for the 3rd Kaneko Sword (P) and 3rd hairband, as well as 1 SSR and 1 SR evolved cards (only got 158 spooky ghosts overall haha). And kept one Takenomata Sword as it might come in handy for PvP. That playful Kaneko is a weapon that makes an offensive general even more dangerous.

3 Kenshin?!

[fuzzylogic]

I still don't get how's this tourney goes.

EDIT: I wonder what's next for us after maintenance Also, will the Halloween Event Items stays in my Inventory for next year? And will they fix my timer? It's still delayed by a hour.

It's a singe elimination format until it reaches the top 32. The number of rounds before top 32 varies among the number of players registered.

You might want to go to your nutaku account and change your time on the account/profile settings as it might be corrected.

[Jeffrey Uy]

It's a singe elimination format until it reaches the top 32. The number of rounds before top 32 varies among the number of players registered.

You might want to go to your nutaku account and change your time on the account/profile settings as it might be corrected.

No I mean, I haven't face anyone since Tuesday. Alright, checking on my account.

[Machcio]

I'm actually getting pretty angry. The amount of event that are available at one time is too big. This promotes pay-to-win stategy so hard. Few months ago it was always that one event ends and new event begins. Sometimes there was even a week break between them. Without burning koban on rations you can do only one event at a time.

[Foolinlove]

I'm actually getting pretty angry. The amount of event that are available at one time is too big. This promotes pay-to-win stategy so hard. Few months ago it was always that one event ends and new event begins. Sometimes there was even a week break between them. Without burning koban on rations you can do only one event at a time.

It wouldn't be so bad to have a couple of events running, if it wasnt for the fact that lately all the events are useful that run together. Before it was generally something like the soul event with coin dungeon etc. So you could just get the bonuses for the not so great dungeon and spend most of your energy on the better event. But now we keep getting multiple dungeons that give good rewards.

[fuzzylogic]

3 Kenshin?!

yeah 1 UR Dragon of Echigo, 1 SSR Uesugi Kenshin and 1 SSR Uesugi Kenshin (S)

[fuzzylogic]

No I mean, I haven't face anyone since Tuesday. Alright, checking on my account.

You should have received notification if you had won or lost a certain tourney round. And your generals should be showing on the 5 empty boxes above the "modify generals" or "generals send 50 koban" icon.

[fuzzylogic]

I'm actually getting pretty angry. The amount of event that are available at one time is too big. This promotes pay-to-win stategy so hard. Few months ago it was always that one event ends and new event begins. Sometimes there was even a week break between them. Without burning koban on rations you can do only one event at a time.

So I guess I have to choose what dungeon to prioritize. That last stage of Trainer Dungeon became difficult compared than of the previous one because of engaging to Corsairs instead of Nuns. The Grand Theft event is also full of raiders/corsairs lol. But the rewards on the last stage of the latter event are good ones.

[fuzzylogic]

It wouldn't be so bad to have a couple of events running, if it wasnt for the fact that lately all the events are useful that run together. Before it was generally something like the soul event with coin dungeon etc. So you could just get the bonuses for the not so great dungeon and spend most of your energy on the better event. But now we keep getting multiple dungeons that give good rewards.

You have a point. So I guess I'll just clear the 2nd to the last stage of the Trainer Dungeon, then some battles at the last stage of the Grand Theft event (that I might get lucky and get kobans haha) and most of the day farming at Howling event.

[Foolinlove]

You have a point. So I guess I'll just clear the 2nd to the last stage of the Trainer Dungeon, then some battles at the last stage of the Grand Theft event (that I might get lucky and get kobans haha) and most of the day farming at Howling event.

You can also finally get the final piece of emblem in the 3rd from last battle in Grand Theft. I finally managed to complete an emblem today and gave it to my tiger of kai.

[Machcio]

So I guess I have to choose what dungeon to prioritize. That last stage of Trainer Dungeon became difficult compared than of the previous one because of engaging to Corsairs instead of Nuns. The Grand Theft event is also full of raiders/corsairs lol. But the rewards on the last stage of the latter event are good ones.

Yes and no. Koban in the last stage is the obvious cherry on top, however I believe it has usual drop rate for top item that can de drawn from lottery, which is around 0.2% as Semaphore counted few times. And I didn't get it even once after clearing this enemy. However from 25 tries I already got EVO emblem shard III twice. As far as I understand this item (usable ONLY on 3 star general when evolving to 4 star to get +10 on stats instead of +5, right?) it's usability is limited, but for now it's the only way to obtain it i guess and I plan to farm several of those.

[Semaphore]

No I mean, I haven't face anyone since Tuesday. Alright, checking on my account.

The tournament is single elimination. When you lose one match, you're out for the week. If 300 people register, then on Monday, it does the first few rounds of that to get down to 32 people left and you play several matches consecutively or until you lose. There is a bug where the battle log only shows the last match you played on Tuesday unless you reload the game.

[Semaphore]

So I guess I have to choose what dungeon to prioritize. That last stage of Trainer Dungeon became difficult compared than of the previous one because of engaging to Corsairs instead of Nuns. The Grand Theft event is also full of raiders/corsairs lol. But the rewards on the last stage of the latter event are good ones.

Ties where everyone dies go to the attacker. Ties where neither side is wiped out go to the defender. So if you kill the corsairs in the last round and they kill you with reflect damage in the process, that counts as a win.

And really, even the last opponent in the trainer dungeon is easy. I pull all but one of my generals off of my team to make the battles go faster. I used to use Master Strategist for the last battle, but now I'm using Dragon of Echigo for the last round. I'll probably switch to Saitoh Dohsan for some earlier rounds, as you generally want the weakest general that can one-shot the opposing side in order to make the battles go faster and reduce reflect damage.

[Semaphore]

Yes and no. Koban in the last stage is the obvious cherry on top, however I believe it has usual drop rate for top item that can de drawn from lottery, which is around 0.2% as Semaphore counted few times. And I didn't get it even once after clearing this enemy. However from 25 tries I already got EVO emblem shard III twice. As far as I understand this item (usable ONLY on 3 star general when evolving to 4 star to get +10 on stats instead of +5, right?) it's usability is limited, but for now it's the only way to obtain it i guess and I plan to farm several of those.

The gear drops from the grand theft event are junk that is also available in the normal campaign. The EVO emblem shard 3 was briefly available in the church event, and this seems to be a similar event that also drops it, but while allowing you to run it more times per day.

I have no idea what the drop rates on EVO emblem shards and koban from the last opponent are, but they seem to be the only thing in the event worth caring about unless the drop rates of experience cards or something are better than I expect. The 0.2% drop rate that I've cited in the past was for SSR EVO cards from an event that gave you 200 chances per day at getting one. That's the only thing I'm aware of where the drop rate was that low. The drop rate for soul tickets in the soul ticket event is around 1%, for example.

[Foolinlove]

Does anyone know exactly the marshal's hood does from the daily event? It's effect says it reduces dmg from enemy marshal by 100%, but what exactly counts as enemy marshal?

[Jeffrey Uy]

yeah 1 UR Dragon of Echigo, 1 SSR Uesugi Kenshin and 1 SSR Uesugi Kenshin (S)

I didn't know Dragon of Echigo is count as Uesegi Kenshin.


You should have received notification if you had won or lost a certain tourney round. And your generals should be showing on the 5 empty boxes above the "modify generals" or "generals send 50 koban" icon.

I already did since Tuesday. Do I have to pay another 50 Koban for it again?


So I guess I have to choose what dungeon to prioritize. That last stage of Trainer Dungeon became difficult compared than of the previous one because of engaging to Corsairs instead of Nuns. The Grand Theft event is also full of raiders/corsairs lol. But the rewards on the last stage of the latter event are good ones.

I totally agree with you. Both Dungeon's Last 2 Farming Unit are the good one. (Well, the 3rd one on Thief still ok). What I hate about the Thief Dungeon is that their units are Corsairs. Oh I got myself the 3rd Shard. But I did not expect it all only increase Stats and must be on Level 50. So, does that mean, the 4 star can't get the bonus stats?

[Foolinlove]

I didn't know Dragon of Echigo is count as Uesegi Kenshin.



I already did since Tuesday. Do I have to pay another 50 Koban for it again?



I totally agree with you. Both Dungeon's Last 2 Farming Unit are the good one. (Well, the 3rd one on Thief still ok). What I hate about the Thief Dungeon is that their units are Corsairs. Oh I got myself the 3rd Shard. But I did not expect it all only increase Stats and must be on Level 50. So, does that mean, the 4 star can't get the bonus stats?

You do not have to pay koban at all in tournament, unless you modify your team after you enter. It will show you the result of old round if u lost or the next opponent you will face in tournament on the tournament screen. After the first day, there is only 1 fight per day until the next evening. Exception being on Friday when the last 3 rounds go. The emblem is useable on lvl 55's since I gave it to my Tiger or Kai who is 55.

[Unregistered]

The said general should be at least level 30 for the 3rd skill to work XD

i know, she is lvl 35... but seems don't work.. she just hit as a normal elite musketer

[fuzzylogic]

I didn't know Dragon of Echigo is count as Uesegi Kenshin.



I already did since Tuesday. Do I have to pay another 50 Koban for it again?



I totally agree with you. Both Dungeon's Last 2 Farming Unit are the good one. (Well, the 3rd one on Thief still ok). What I hate about the Thief Dungeon is that their units are Corsairs. Oh I got myself the 3rd Shard. But I did not expect it all only increase Stats and must be on Level 50. So, does that mean, the 4 star can't get the bonus stats?

Yes and the bonus from the Kaneko Swords applies to her.


No need for that


You can still use the emblem even if its already 4 star. Go to generals then roster then choose the general you want to have the emblem consumed at. There is a small icon on the right stating "use emblem". I already did that before maintenance when I finally had my first 4 star general (that emblem I made had been in my storage since Sister's wrath event). And I have to because of lacking inventory space. But I guess I have to farm again for my Kenshin (s) even before the time it would reach 4 stars.

[Semaphore]

i know, she is lvl 35... but seems don't work.. she just hit as a normal elite musketer

The skill says, "Attacks all enemy units and deals 10% reduced DMG when leading an Archer, Veteran Archer, Marksman or Elite Marksman unit." Elite Musketeer is not one of the classes on that list. As the others are lower tier classes, generally you want Master Strategist to either be an Elite Marksman to make use of the "attack everyone" kill, or else some other class (probably heavy artillery) if you're church to at least take advantage of the Brilliance of Sengoku skill.

[Semaphore]

You can still use the emblem even if its already 4 star. Go to generals then roster then choose the general you want to have the emblem consumed at. There is a small icon on the right stating "use emblem". I already did that before maintenance when I finally had my first 4 star general (that emblem I made had been in my storage since Sister's wrath event). And I have to because of lacking inventory space. But I guess I have to farm again for my Kenshin (s) even before the time it would reach 4 stars.

I had not figured that out. Thank you very much.

[Machcio]

You can still use the emblem even if its already 4 star. Go to generals then roster then choose the general you want to have the emblem consumed at. There is a small icon on the right stating "use emblem". I already did that before maintenance when I finally had my first 4 star general (that emblem I made had been in my storage since Sister's wrath event). And I have to because of lacking inventory space. But I guess I have to farm again for my Kenshin (s) even before the time it would reach 4 stars.

give that man a cookie

[fuzzylogic]

I had not figured that out. Thank you very much.

You are very most welcome. :)


give that man a cookie

With milk please.... XD

[fuzzylogic]

Anyway already got a Soul Ticket from that Howling Event as so it seems I am unlucky at random stuffs haha. Out of the four Soul Tickets (that included the souls I had from Howling and from sacrificing generals), only SSR Naoe was the useful one. However, it seems that the 2nd statement from her 3rd skill only applies to her only because I notice that the damage to Tiger of Kai from the rest of the army is not increasing and had the same damage to Takeda Nobushige.

[Semaphore]

Anyway already got a Soul Ticket from that Howling Event as so it seems I am unlucky at random stuffs haha. Out of the four Soul Tickets (that included the souls I had from Howling and from sacrificing generals), only SSR Naoe was the useful one. However, it seems that the 2nd statement from her 3rd skill only applies to her only because I notice that the damage to Tiger of Kai from the rest of the army is not increasing and had the same damage to Takeda Nobushige.

Well yes, you expect that most of the tickets you draw are not going to be useful to you. You make up for it by having lots and lots of draws. One useful general out of four soul ticket draws is actually pretty good.

Personally, I'm just saving the soul tickets I get from the event. There's nothing in the soul ticket summon pool right now that would be all that valuable to me. SSR Mori Terumoto is presumably coming, as she's in the platinum summon pool, so I'll wait for her to be added before using my soul tickets. And hopefully wait for a platinum priest event, as that's going to be a whole lot of platinum tickets.

[Jeffrey Uy]

You can still use the emblem even if its already 4 star. Go to generals then roster then choose the general you want to have the emblem consumed at. There is a small icon on the right stating "use emblem". I already did that before maintenance when I finally had my first 4 star general (that emblem I made had been in my storage since Sister's wrath event). And I have to because of lacking inventory space. But I guess I have to farm again for my Kenshin (s) even before the time it would reach 4 stars.

So, I can do it as many as I want?


give that man a cookie



With milk please.... XD

+1


Well yes, you expect that most of the tickets you draw are not going to be useful to you. You make up for it by having lots and lots of draws. One useful general out of four soul ticket draws is actually pretty good.

Personally, I'm just saving the soul tickets I get from the event. There's nothing in the soul ticket summon pool right now that would be all that valuable to me. SSR Mori Terumoto is presumably coming, as she's in the platinum summon pool, so I'll wait for her to be added before using my soul tickets. And hopefully wait for a platinum priest event, as that's going to be a whole lot of platinum tickets.

Dang. I should save it then. What does SSR More Terumoto do?
Nevermind, found it. I thought there's a new upcoming general. My bad for misunderstanding there, Sir Semaphore.

[fuzzylogic]

Well yes, you expect that most of the tickets you draw are not going to be useful to you. You make up for it by having lots and lots of draws. One useful general out of four soul ticket draws is actually pretty good.

Personally, I'm just saving the soul tickets I get from the event. There's nothing in the soul ticket summon pool right now that would be all that valuable to me. SSR Mori Terumoto is presumably coming, as she's in the platinum summon pool, so I'll wait for her to be added before using my soul tickets. And hopefully wait for a platinum priest event, as that's going to be a whole lot of platinum tickets.

So I guess I was lucky then haha. Not like awhile ago when I used 8 golden tickets and they were all R lol.

Hope there would be an SR version of Hohho Sohun with the same reflect damage skill.

[fuzzylogic]

So, I can do it as many as I want?






+1



Dang. I should save it then. What does SSR More Terumoto do?
Nevermind, found it. I thought there's a new upcoming general. My bad for misunderstanding there, Sir Semaphore.

I think it's only a one time use for that general who had already consumed an evo emblem. It would be so imba if one general would have used more than one emblem. Imagine Master Strategist having a very high int bonus coming from evo emblems.

Balancing the game is very important so that players won't abuse a certain item or general. :)

[Machcio]

I'm curious. What's your result on koban drops from last enemy in Grand Theft dung?
I have only 1 out of 150, which would be 0.75%. It's pretty low but considering that it's 300 koban already I think I can understand it.

[Foolinlove]

I'm curious. What's your result on koban drops from last enemy in Grand Theft dung?
I have only 1 out of 150, which would be 0.75%. It's pretty low but considering that it's 300 koban already I think I can understand it.

Mine is 0 so far, my luck seems to suck for koban.

[fuzzylogic]

I'm curious. What's your result on koban drops from last enemy in Grand Theft dung?
I have only 1 out of 150, which would be 0.75%. It's pretty low but considering that it's 300 koban already I think I can understand it.

I'll just farm Grand Theft dungeon next week as I am currently prioritizing the last 2 stages of Trainer Dungeon (for exp cards and copper) and the Howling event. But the time I saw your post that its 300 koban as one of the rewards on the last stage, I think its really a tough one to get. So you are now 300 kobans richer :)

[Semaphore]

Mine is 0 so far, my luck seems to suck for koban.

I tried farming the last one one day and never got the koban reward. After that, I figured it was probably too low of probability to be worthwhile and am ignoring it. Maybe I'll give it another shot after the soul ticket event ends, or maybe not. Probably not.

The real jackpot from the event is the EVO emblem fragments, especially the part 3 that was previously unavailable. So far, I've gotten 3 of them in as many days, for thus far a drop rate of 2%. With those unavailable elsewhere in the game, you don't want to miss that just trying to farm koban that is available all over the place.

[Semaphore]

I think it's only a one time use for that general who had already consumed an evo emblem. It would be so imba if one general would have used more than one emblem. Imagine Master Strategist having a very high int bonus coming from evo emblems.

Balancing the game is very important so that players won't abuse a certain item or general. :)

Don't forget that power and leadership affect damage dealt and taken pretty universally. Being able to get a general to 500 power or leadership by stacking EVO emblems would be really unbalancing.

You laugh about Master Strategist having a high int bonus from emblems, but the 184 intelligence that mine has isn't enough for her Brilliance of Sengoku skill to take effect against certain opponents late in the campaign.

[Jeffrey Uy]

I think it's only a one time use for that general who had already consumed an evo emblem. It would be so imba if one general would have used more than one emblem. Imagine Master Strategist having a very high int bonus coming from evo emblems.

Balancing the game is very important so that players won't abuse a certain item or general. :)

Oh ok.


I'm curious. What's your result on koban drops from last enemy in Grand Theft dung?
I have only 1 out of 150, which would be 0.75%. It's pretty low but considering that it's 300 koban already I think I can understand it.

More like 1 %. I did received 100 koban on the 2nd last Black Unit (Small difference though XD). But no 300 Koban... yet.
BTW, i friend requested you earlier.



You laugh about Master Strategist having a high int bonus from emblems, but the 184 intelligence that mine has isn't enough for her Brilliance of Sengoku skill to take effect against certain opponents late in the campaign.

Yes, pretty powerful skill.

[Machcio]

BTW, i friend requested you earlier.


Good thing that you told me, because request you sent looks exactly the same like requests I've sent to other people. I wouldn't know there is request I have to accept.

[fuzzylogic]

Don't forget that power and leadership affect damage dealt and taken pretty universally. Being able to get a general to 500 power or leadership by stacking EVO emblems would be really unbalancing.

You laugh about Master Strategist having a high int bonus from emblems, but the 184 intelligence that mine has isn't enough for her Brilliance of Sengoku skill to take effect against certain opponents late in the campaign.

Chapter 6?

[Semaphore]

Chapter 6?

Not for most of chapter 6, but only for two particular opponents at the very end of it: SSR Date Nami and SSR Date Masamune, the last two non-convoy opponents in 6-4. Even now that they've been available for months, there are still only five players who have beaten the latter. The latter has 40887 attack, 29792 defense, 251 speed, and 28140 troops per general. The former has 42342 attack, 29792 defense, 246 speed, and 25890 troops per general. They're also elite marksmen, so they hit three targets, and have a skill that means they sometimes deal triple damage.

[AnimeLuna]

Hi I'm new to the game. I used to play on the Japanese server but quit for a while and now I'm wanting to play on the global nutaku server. I could just skip straight to the game but decided it might be beneficial to use an invite code for a bonus. But absolutely none of the codes I've found work :( they all say error_recommended_code. Does anyone have a working code available?

[Jeffrey Uy]

Hi I'm new to the game. I used to play on the Japanese server but quit for a while and now I'm wanting to play on the global nutaku server. I could just skip straight to the game but decided it might be beneficial to use an invite code for a bonus. But absolutely none of the codes I've found work :( they all say error_recommended_code. Does anyone have a working code available?

I could share you my Invite Code but first thing first. Register your account here so I can pm you. ok?

[AnimeLuna]

I could share you my Invite Code but first thing first. Register your account here so I can pm you. ok?
I hadn't really intended to make an account here though...