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Taiketsu
07-17-2016, 11:26 PM
Hi Guys,

i was wondering about the G maps for Daily Missions and if they are even beatable at the moment or if im just plain bad für not beating them. Since i found no videos where people did do them i was wondering again why they are even in the game currently if/when no1 can do them.
And if they are doable is it worth to do them or is it just for " i did it im good" feelilng?

MFG Taiketsu

blacksaber
07-18-2016, 12:30 AM
All of the maps require awakened units (Not necessarily a full team. But it can help). A maxed black unit would fall short, as well. The only two I have yet to do myself is spirit rescue and demon crystal. I'll likely do them when I build a team for those maps when I get around to it. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason to do G maps is for more gold on mondays (not sure if thursday daily has increased drop rate). Affection items and spirits can be obtained any time from challenge maps.

NotThatGuy
07-18-2016, 01:10 AM
As noted, the G dailies require high level, at least partially awakened teams to beat. I've cleared them all save the trust item G map (as I've not bothered attempting it yet), and will note that in most cases it can be worth it.

The Monday G daily is the best map for Plat Armors, having the highest drop rate and two possible drops for them. It is however worse than the X map for gold.

The Tuesday/Friday map is arguably the best map for black spirits, having a 30% drop rate (the same as Dwarfs and Giants Challenge map), along with three chances for them to drop, however while it only costs twice the stamina of Dwarfs and Giants, it costs a large amount of charisma, so some may argue it is not worth it just for the black spirits, it also has good drop rates for Platinum spirits (with two chances), and the best drop rate for rainbow spirits (with two chances) compared to stamina spent (unless you have the spirit drop rate boosting bandit, in which case the E difficulty is the most efficient for Rainbow spirits, I forget off hand if that is only if she's awakened or not though).

Wednesday Gs are from what I recall both the best rates for gifts, but I generally don't find them worth it (mind I don't tend to find the gift dailies worth it in general) since I find saving my stamina for Thursday more valuable, and get more than enough gifts doing challenge maps on the weekends and occasionally from events, if I was in dire need of gifts however, they would likely be the most efficient way to from them (such as if we had constant back to back events).

Thursday G map is the best of the demon crystal maps hands down, with the best drop rate, the same stamina cost as the H and X versions, and one more possible drop than the H version (same as the X). It also has a 100% drop rate when the 1.5 times drop rate for daily missions events occur.

Overall, the G maps are usually better than the lower difficulties, but may be worse at a specific aspect. Overall, it is dependant on what you are going for.

Tenhou
07-18-2016, 05:45 AM
They're beatable, but you need quite the damn good units. As of currently i am only doing the Golden Armour G map 1* (killing all necessary enemies) and for that i need...
-3 gold+ soldiers
-3 gold+ mages
-3 healers
-2 good duelists, preferably one princess
-1 AW high level Bernice or better
-Prince

And yes, all of them at max level and some of them AW'd.

So yeah, the requirements can be a bitch. I sometimes 3* the map if my Berna can assassinate 3 armours quickly that i normally skip.

Sincronic
07-18-2016, 11:21 AM
Pretty much like Tenhou, I think the only map i actually tried to clear was Golden armor G, and it relies on luck, due to berna assassinating black armor in 5-6 hits, any more will result in 2*. But since the rate is pretty good, i do like few 3* in row.
Other than a bit of luck, brute force it with pure power.

I can post a video on youtube in day or few, or write how i do it in 1h, if anyone is interested.
Keep in mind i use Berna and Mikoto as "cheating" my way through :P (Mikoto might not be necessary though)

lolix
07-18-2016, 01:27 PM
skyfallen gift G is easy because i have nanaly. The rest , i haven't really tried.

IvanLedah21
07-18-2016, 02:15 PM
Pretty much like Tenhou, I think the only map i actually tried to clear was Golden armor G, and it relies on luck, due to berna assassinating black armor in 5-6 hits, any more will result in 2*. But since the rate is pretty good, i do like few 3* in row.
Other than a bit of luck, brute force it with pure power.

I can post a video on youtube in day or few, or write how i do it in 1h, if anyone is interested.
Keep in mind i use Berna and Mikoto as "cheating" my way through :P (Mikoto might not be necessary though)

Considering I have AW Nanaly, Aisha, Minerva, Sophie, Sybilla, Despara for blacks and Sherry, Jerome, Camilla, Iris, Marr, Spica, Adele, Katie, Bernice, Mehlis, Uzume and Yuyu for plat/gold, along with AW Monica and Cellia for farming (and Cuterie but who in their right mind will use her for anything but gift farming?), I really feel I ought to be able to power through the G maps without relying on Assassination (though I might get lucky with that anyways from Sybilla and Minerva). I just don't have the right strategy for Golden Armor or Spirit Rescue G maps, it seems. I CAN 3* Skyfallen Gift G and Crystal Keeper G with ease though, so I'm pretty sure I just need the right strategy for the other two (not in a hurry to try Toast to Men G lol)

Taiketsu
07-18-2016, 10:21 PM
Looks like ill need to train my Units a lot more before i can try these G maps^^"
Currently im running out of Silver Units for AW/CC so its kinda annoying that i get so less drops in the current event Q_Q

Sincronic
07-19-2016, 02:34 AM
I decided to record a vid of Monday daily, so here ya go for anyone who is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsPet8Tqe24

I still don't remember exact placements so i screw up here and there, but it should be like this. Just put solano 3 sec earlier and Katie should be able to keep heavies from passing, then use Mikoto's skill to get some time for replacing Katie with Bernice (Maybe you can do it without freeze, but there is chance some red armor will quickly pass and you will lose 1 life)

p.s. I almost forgot to start recording lol

Talith
07-26-2016, 04:57 PM
I actually just managed to 3* Spirit G today thanks to awakening Karma during the Memento event in order to merc the Lich King. I got her to lvl. 66 and supported her with Waltz and Prince buffs. Her team-healing passive gets me through the very beginning without a healer and she tore through the starting golden werewolf while Prince tanks the next wolf on the left (taking days to kill it) while Katie holds the right, my unawoken Cloris sadly being my best witch (and even sadder she still has better dps than Memento).

I don't see myself investing the resources to clear Male G and I'm not clearing Thursday without some new units or some awoken skills.

Nero010
07-26-2016, 07:58 PM
I actually just managed to 3* Spirit G today thanks to awakening Karma during the Memento event in order to merc the Lich King. I got her to lvl. 66 and supported her with Waltz and Prince buffs. Her team-healing passive gets me through the very beginning without a healer and she tore through the starting golden werewolf while Prince tanks the next wolf on the left (taking days to kill it) while Katie holds the right, my unawoken Cloris sadly being my best witch (and even sadder she still has better dps than Memento).

I don't see myself investing the resources to clear Male G and I'm not clearing Thursday without some new units or some awoken skills.

Mementos DPS outside of skill is 6 damage per second higher then Cloris hers.
... i know i know just sayin

Sincronic
07-27-2016, 01:20 AM
I actually just managed to 3* Spirit G today thanks to awakening Karma during the Memento event in order to merc the Lich King. I got her to lvl. 66 and supported her with Waltz and Prince buffs. Her team-healing passive gets me through the very beginning without a healer and she tore through the starting golden werewolf while Prince tanks the next wolf on the left (taking days to kill it) while Katie holds the right, my unawoken Cloris sadly being my best witch (and even sadder she still has better dps than Memento).


Can you show the exact unit placement in a screenshot or 2 or video? :P Never actually tried Spirit G cause of high stamina consumption :/

IvanLedah21
07-27-2016, 07:16 AM
Golden Armor G - 3*
Spirit Rescue G - stuck at 2*, need to level Despara and her skill a bit more, I always miss that first aura'd gold wolf lol
Skyfallen Gift G - 3*
Toast to Men G - haven't bothered even trying lol
Crystal Keeper G - 3*

Crystal Keeper was done the earliest, using Aisha, Minerva, Nanaly, Spica, Zola and Marr, with Prince for buff and Jerome for UP generation
Skyfallen Gift was next, using the above, plus Mehlis for extra aoe damage
Golden Armor I got done just this past Monday, using AW Uzume video, substituting a few units (like Aisha + skill instead of summoner and AW Sherry instead of Thetis)
Spirit Rescue, I use the video titled "Despara + Sybilla" as a guide, like I said his Despara has max skill I think (1.9x multiplier), mine is level 1 lol (1.4x multiplier and duration runs out b4 wolf gets back into her range)

Talith
07-27-2016, 10:59 AM
Can you show the exact unit placement in a screenshot or 2 or video? :P Never actually tried Spirit G cause of high stamina consumption :/

Where do people find the blank maps with the numbered / lettered placements?

Sincronic
07-27-2016, 12:19 PM
Where do people find the blank maps with the numbered / lettered placements?

You have G map blanks here:
http://snowsnowaigis.blog.jp/archives/cat_376474.html

ZeroZet
07-27-2016, 01:19 PM
Where do people find the blank maps with the numbered / lettered placements?
JP wiki (http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%a5%a2%a5%f3%a5%ca%a4%c8%c0%e3%a4%ce%c8%fe%bd%f7) has everything covered. And Google (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fseesaawiki.jp%2Faigis%2Fd%2F%25cd%2 5cb%25c6%25fc%25b8%25c2%25c4%25ea%25a5%25df%25a5%2 5c3%25a5%25b7%25a5%25e7%25a5%25f3&edit-text=&act=url) has your back (and every other piece of private information)

Talith
07-29-2016, 04:14 PM
Alright, I'll have to wait until Friday so I can do it again and jot down exact placements.

- - - Updated - - -

Alright so with the starting deployment I drop Katie, Waltz, and Fedora. Katie ends up staying the entire duration of the map if I feel like it, normally replace her last with Horus though.

Golden wolf passes by on the left, and then soon after you'll see two wolves heading down that way. I put Prince and Claudia along the path to catch them. Placing any at the top melee spot will make them catch one of Katie's wolves and then leak on the left. Claudia rips apart any wolves she catches without help but the Prince is going to need healing to tank one for a while... which I'm not putting because first we need to catch the golden wolf with Karma. Waltz will have her active by the time the golden wolf reaches the right side, using that and Karma active will kill it while keeping everyone healthy. Withdraw Karma once it is dead.

There is different ways of handling things from here on out but the general idea is:
- place a heavy armor at the front
- a healer that can reach the prince and heavy
- stack mages / Solano at the entrance to nuke whatever the heavy catches.

http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/07/30/vmJ51oTcX7.jpg

Nero010
07-29-2016, 07:18 PM
Nice Guide. I cant use it as i dont have the whole old Event Units but it already gives a very good idea still if u dont have them how u could replace them. Even though Karma seems pretty essential. Nice work, the visiual helps alot

Talith
07-29-2016, 07:54 PM
The gold wolf takes his sweet time to get to the right side, so there are different ways of killing it. Although, most guides I've seen boil down to either letting him go (for farming the level at 2*s) or they use some kind of black tier unit to kill it.

If we ever get revivals then Anya is a good choice to pick up as several guides make use of her on the level.

Nero010
07-29-2016, 09:11 PM
Well since i have Sherry the most offensive of all princesess i would not say no to a tank princess that can block 2 units and attack both at the same time with def like an silver-gold HA. Well not to forget her op lightning rod ability with high hp and 20 mr. Something my Sherry isnt realy more suited for then Imelia or any other meat shield.
In the end i would say yes to any tanky unit though i guess since my only tanks are bernard and leanne xD

Taiketsu
07-30-2016, 02:12 AM
Is it possible to replace Karme with Olivie? Since my got max skill lvl it should work in term of dmg reduc or is she to bad for the job in this map?

lolix
07-30-2016, 02:30 AM
she should theoretically be able to do it as well. karma can't die for 13 seconds. Olivie can't be touched for 15. assuming u have the dps to kill the wolf during that time , since she has 2k less hp then karma..

Talith
07-30-2016, 11:14 AM
The hardest part is figuring out the start.

Dealing with that gold aura wolf "Goldie" using minimal resources because you also have to deal with the 2-3 silver wolves that try to rush out the left side, and making sure you have the healing and damage to cover both... while not dieing to the map poison. Give me Pippin's event!

I think it might be possible to delay the Prince and get an awoken heavy out there to catch everything while you deal with Goldie. The starting placement I had let's Fedora cover the top slot where a heavy goes. I don't think a single healer is going to be good enough to keep up with both the heavy and whoever is dueling Goldie though. You can put a witch right above where I placed Fedora and she can cover the entrance and later Goldie when he comes around so maybe if you have two strong witches (Cloris doesn't count) something can be done with that.

Sincronic
07-30-2016, 03:33 PM
Thanks for the guide :) I guess i should first awaken my Odette and then try