Some DC advice.

[Unregistered]

As the title says, I'm looking for a lite advice with my DC spending. As of right now, I have 200 demon crystals and 30 SC waiting to be used. I I just awakened my first three units (Spica, Katie, and Iris). All of them are level 40 and below, with many other core units needing levels also. Here's the dilemma: do I purchase another copy of Spica for the -1 UC and possible SU or do I buy two more awakening gems? I have a saki already. Personally, I think I should get the Spica before they change the rotation (this is a sad, sad joke I know) and focus on leveling up some more units to max before worrying about further awakening. The only unit I have close to max level is a cost 37 skill 10 Odettebat level 65. The rest are in the 40-50 range.

[SabishiiRyuu]

As the title says, I'm looking for a lite advice with my DC spending. As of right now, I have 200 demon crystals and 30 SC waiting to be used. I I just awakened my first three units (Spica, Katie, and Iris). All of them are level 40 and below, with many other core units needing levels also. Here's the dilemma: do I purchase another copy of Spica for the -1 UC and possible SU or do I buy two more awakening gems? I have a saki already. Personally, I think I should get the Spica before they change the rotation (this is a sad, sad joke I know) and focus on leveling up some more units to max before worrying about further awakening. The only unit I have close to max level is a cost 37 skill 10 Odettebat level 65. The rest are in the 40-50 range.

I'm far from an expert, but I did exactly as you plan on doing. After awakening my first few units, I got another Spica to get the CR before I got the rest of my units awakened so I'd do what you plan on doing. Unless you have a max CC unit that has a really juicy awakening passive ability. In that case I'd awaken another unit before CRing Spica.

[Kili Krieger]

If you're completely unsure of what to do, I suggest you get Spica (since there's no chance of the awakening spirit going off the list, and there is a chance for Spica to disappear, no matter how slim).

Though I actually gather 300 before getting one, I hate waiting for DC to accumulate before I can awaken, as if I don't have to toil enough already......

[Nero010]

I have a question too. I have Spica and 300ish DCs. Do i get another copy of Spica for CR/SU or do i get Saki? And yes, i have no ranged unit on a melee slot. If Saki is going to stay on the trading post though (which i heared that she doesnt change) i would go for getting Spica and an Awakening Spirit instat i guess.

[SabishiiRyuu]

I have a question too. I have Spica and 300ish DCs. Do i get another copy of Spica for CR/SU or do i get Saki? And yes, i have no ranged unit on a melee slot. If Saki is going to stay on the trading post though (which i heared that she doesnt change) i would go for getting Spica and an Awakening Spirit instat i guess.

I'd go with Saki first if you don't have a Saki, period. As Krieger said, Awakening spirits don't go off the trading post, but the units might and seeing as you already have a Spica but are lacking Saki - which is a good unit - I'd say go for Saki before another Spica. But you'll also have to have enough room to level her up as well.

[lolix]

if u have no other ranged on melee unit , i guess u can get saki , but i found her rather ...meh. Have her on 1 account , and didnțt bothered to get her on the other , even tho i have 500+ dcs left. She is plenty good statwise tho , but i personally dont like it.

[ZeroZet]

Saki's good for what she does. Her Awakening even brings her cost down! And her fast attack works well with her skill, allowing more chances for assassination to proc.
So if you have no melee slot ranger, do get her. This tactical options comes is very useful to have.

[lolix]

i have a max level saki. My other range on melee spot is horace (which fits an entirely different role anyway). I didn't used saki outside of when i was bored in like..... 4 or 5 months. Also this account is my 0 black accounts. Outside of celia , camilla and a tethis , i literally have nothing else then what the game gives for free. I agree that saki is good for what she does. What i don't get is why people have a boner for what she does in general... Ranged assasination is okay i guess , but she's hardly a priority unit IMO. Whatever ...i won't argue against getting her if u have extra dcs. I just never had a case in which i thought "man , i'd kill to have a saki right now"

[Myon]

Got a 50cc50 Saki and I'm quite happy with her.

She's great for some maps where your team is slightly too weak or the necessary strategies a bit too complicated so you want to assassinate some big mobs. For example the Mummy King of the last map Undead Swarm. Place Saki to the left of your gateguard and when the big mummies arrive I activated her Skill

She assassinated 2 big mummies and a lesser vampire so I didn't have to place any blockers on the left hand as my dps was high enough to kill the rest of them (or tank them) with the other units already placed.

Since its RNG heavy she's not somebody you imo want to use on a map which you can clear easily otherwise, but if you're willing to try twice or so to 3 star something she's great.

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to the left should have meant to the right...

guess I should register so I can edit my posts -_-

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neat.... you can edit your posts somehow even when not registered :D

[lolix]

if your strategy requires assasination , it's a bad strategy.


for example , i've had units assasinate bosses before (i think it was the gold archer during the strategist event) , but its obvious that's not a viable strategy most of the time , is it now ? Assasination chance should be treated as a bonus , and not as a stat on which to base an entire strategy

[Eab1990]

Mummies have a slightly higher assassination rate, so using Saki or any other assassination unit isn't a bad strategy.

[lolix]

it's still highly rng based , and relying on luck is not the best strategy in general. As i said before , and i don't want to start this crap again , saki is a good unit statwise. She has the stats to back her black status , and assuming u have extra dc and no ranged on melee slot , she can fill that role well enough.

The problem i have with her it's more related to the fact that i don't see myself using her that often , and when i do , i just get a .."meh" feeling from her. i really don't see her outperforming most of my other units.

Then again , the beauty of aigis is that it can be played in different ways and still be succesfull. Maybe saki is just not compatible enough with my usual strategies , but she might be what others want in theirs

[Nero010]

The gold Archer u mean is propably shao. I was new to the game when her and shukas star rush event was around and was only able to get shao on 13UP and not shuka and since i had no silver archers to cc spica or rita (who i have min costed) until this event i did use Bashira and Shao as my archers and pretty much always when i turn Shaos skill on she assassinates at least 1 between 1 and 4 targets within these 15 seconds. It is kinda relyable, just not for assassinating that one specific unit. It helped me soften up some runs on maps like awakening orb maps though that where very harsh to me. Saki is not a unit for those as she costs too much UP but just talking about assassination generaly. It can lift the weight of some maps. I have never used an Ninja too though (i have none) or ranged units on a melee slot in general so i have no experience with its usefullness.
Leveling her... lets say... i do need to level Spica and Rita from 50cc1 (Rita not an priority but comes in handy at maps with early tight UP) and Mehlis 50cc1, Leanne 50cc1 as well as Zola 50cc35 (my core is all max lvl i just now was able to cc them or got them from shrine recently). Considering though that i have 13 plat armors and at least a 3 week break after this event i might be able to finish all of them including saki (lets say 50cc53-66) until the next event, would have to put behind some awakenings though. Thats pretty much my biggest concern. Getting Spica i still have enough for an awakening spirit and should get the next spirit by the time the first awakening is finished, getting saki i wont. But since we propably still have at least 1-2 months until we can start worrying about the traiding post being rotated i could also say i just wait those 1-2 months and then see what i can get.

[Kamahari Akuma]

it's still highly rng based , and relying on luck is not the best strategy in general. As i said before , and i don't want to start this crap again , saki is a good unit statwise. She has the stats to back her black status , and assuming u have extra dc and no ranged on melee slot , she can fill that role well enough.

The problem i have with her it's more related to the fact that i don't see myself using her that often , and when i do , i just get a .."meh" feeling from her. i really don't see her outperforming most of my other units.

Then again , the beauty of aigis is that it can be played in different ways and still be succesfull. Maybe saki is just not compatible enough with my usual strategies , but she might be what others want in theirs

If anything, I'm only fond of assassinations when its on a unit with range. Shao being a grand example since as far as I know she is one of the few long ranged units with Assassination skill.

If there are others with range larger than archers, I'm not fully aware of them.

While it has its place on Rogues, the limitation of being melee is my only problem with it. While the one black Rogue makes up for it with having higher than normal chances for assassinations after AWing (and then when Skill AWing comes she gets a whirlwind attack that triggers the assassination stuff even if she isn't blocking the mobs), its still not gonna save her from Mummies that hit like trucks once they hit below 50%.

While I don't rely on the rng to get me through, its more like I bring it along for the ride when I know I have a team that can handle what comes at it. I just throw in the assassination units for fun.

Unless its my AWed Cloris, then its just for the almighty mega-slows.

[SabishiiRyuu]

Doesn't Minerva have also the assassination when her skill is activated? with 300 range.

[Kamahari Akuma]

Doesn't Minerva have also the assassination when her skill is activated? with 300 range.

That she does. Now if only I could roll her already...

That and Pirate's attack speed is kinda sad on a unit with an assassination skill.

[SabishiiRyuu]

That she does. Now if only I could roll her already...

That and Pirate's attack speed is kinda sad on a unit with an assassination skill.

Her assassination works only when her skill is active, and when her skill is active she attacks faster than almost every other unit.

[Eab1990]

If anything, I'm only fond of assassinations when its on a unit with range. Shao being a grand example since as far as I know she is one of the few long ranged units with Assassination skill.

If there are others with range larger than archers, I'm not fully aware of them.

While it has its place on Rogues, the limitation of being melee is my only problem with it. While the one black Rogue makes up for it with having higher than normal chances for assassinations after AWing (and then when Skill AWing comes she gets a whirlwind attack that triggers the assassination stuff even if she isn't blocking the mobs), its still not gonna save her from Mummies that hit like trucks once they hit below 50%.

While I don't rely on the rng to get me through, its more like I bring it along for the ride when I know I have a team that can handle what comes at it. I just throw in the assassination units for fun.

Unless its my AWed Cloris, then its just for the almighty mega-slows.

AW Bella has assassination too, but lol us getting Bella anytime soon. ;_;

Also still waiting for Berna's "retreat all 0 HP rogues" AW passive.

[IvanLedah21]

if your strategy requires assasination , it's a bad strategy.


for example , i've had units assasinate bosses before (i think it was the gold archer during the strategist event) , but its obvious that's not a viable strategy most of the time , is it now ? Assasination chance should be treated as a bonus , and not as a stat on which to base an entire strategy

Basically this. It's nice when it procs, especially when u otherwise would have to deploy another unit to deal with the now-dead enemy, but if you're using Saki for her assassination chance, your strategy/team needs work. Her primary use is a very fast attack with ranged capability on a melee spot. Assassination potential is a bonus, nothing more.

[slyyr]

I guess it depends on why you want Saki. I have Hina if I want a ninja and Shao if I want ranged assassinate. I don't like relying on assassinate anyway so Saki is very low priority for me. Can also depend on if you have other black units (or units in general) you want to level up first. Also getting those 3 Ninja awakening Orbs will take time.

Getting Spica makes sense because you will see an immediate benefit with CR and maybe extra skill. Another option is simply awaken 3 more units if you have the resources. I went that way during the Memento event and I don't regret it - I'm up to 6 awakened units plus 1 ready when its leveled and I have more gold. A stronger core team (even if you are Awakening just to make your core team units better) has long term value. Of course anything with a decent passive ability should be priority though. But I'm a free player so I pretty much have to make do with what I have.

[IvanLedah21]

I personally don't use Shao at all but that's mainly because I have AW Minerva, (AW ability improves attack speed) and since both assassinate only during skill and Minerva's skill buffs not only attack but also attack speed, and she has bigger range and higher stats it's just not fair to Shao to even compare lol.

Saki vs Shao
Saki wins: raw stats, attack speed, initial skill timer
Shao wins: cost and range
Melee vs Range slot may be a factor on certain maps

depends on how tight UP is, availability of melee and ranged slots on the field, and the potential need for the "drop and pop skill" ability all blacks, Saki included, have. However, considering most people agree assassinate shouldn't be relied on, for mowing down enemies, unless range and cost are factors and potentially lack of melee slots, Saki wins easily with her vastly superior stats and attack speed



That said, I love my min-cost Spica and if this is your first CR, it's guaranteed and brings her down to -2 (because she comes with a built-in -1) and skill up, so I'd honestly go with that over Saki unless you need/want the black/added deployment flexibility/instant skill/extra scenes she offers.