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ZeroZet
09-20-2016, 04:05 AM
Good timeofaday, brave Princes! It is September, and things are starting to look good so far. Not only we had gotten the UI retouch and free gacha depth increase recently, we are even getting back-to back events for now (yes, drop rate up is an event)! And now we may even finally stop being mere Princes at last and have our Awesome Moment of Crowning :D
So let's walk The Road to Becoming the King of Bandits!

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/millenniumwaraigis/images/1/16/The_Road_to_Becoming_the_King_of_Bandits.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160920113338
Event runs: 2016-08-20 to 2016-09-27

Rewards
This is a Unit Farm event.
http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2efd47c1ee6e11fc.png

Introducing the Bandit Girl RLolonee! Ah, the infamous sole event unit who changes the skill upon Class Evolution, she'll be quite a chore to max skill to say frank, as you would need to CC every copy of her to get a Skill Up out of combine, in addition to Cost Reduction. But nothing a few rainbows can't fix, should she catch your fancy (or you have missed Imelia). You may think of her as a bit weaker, more survivalist variant of her mentor Lyla. Her skill is Bandit's signature Risk Life II > Risk Life III, bringing awesome power to bear at the cost of entirety of defense (and coincidentally shared with a number of Shrine summoned units *wink-wink, nudge-nudge*), what can be double-edged sword against physical enemies or pose no danger against mages. To fix up that weakness somewhat, Awakening gives her 25% dodge chance, and more importantly, pushes her health to break whopping 4k. Tis a Golem tier (with some help)!
...But dat no natural Skill Ups from combines...

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c5293a6eb522d4f1.gif

http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7f536f57f3efec71.png


Noted enemy stats


┌──────────┬──── ────────┬─────── ──────┬──────┬── ──┬─────┬─────┬─ ──────────────── ──┐
│ Name │ Attack type │ HP │ Atk │ Def │ MR │ AS │ MOV │ Notes │
╞══════════╪════ ════════╪═══════ ══════╪══════╪══ ══╪═════╪═════╪═ ════════════════ ══╡
│ Lolonee (https://i.gyazo.com/982ee11741470cafd77280578e5e11fd.png) │ Physical │ 4500 │ 360 │ 100 │ 0 │ 172 │ 500 │ Map 1 │
│ │ Melee │ 4750 │ 380 │ 100 │ 0 │ 172 │ 500 │ Map 2 │
│ │ │ 8000 │ 640 │ 100 │ 0 │ 172 │ 500 │ Map 3 │
│ │ │ 9000 │ 1000 │ 0 │ 0 │ 157 │ 500 │ Map 4 (has aura) │
│ │ │ 10800 │ 1200 │ 0 │ 0 │ 157 │ 500 │ Map 5 (has aura) │
│ │ │ 18000 │ 2000 │ 0 │ 0 │ 157 │ 500 │ Map 6 (has aura) │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ Eunice (https://i.gyazo.com/f708ea7d9e4f63b93576e78f71b4d3f2.png) │ Physical │ 5130 │ 427 │ 180 │ 10 │ 157 │ 400 │ Map 2 │
│ │ Melee │ 10000 │ 1200 │ 0 │ 10 │ 157 │ 490 │ Map 6 (has aura) │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ Mortimer (https://i.gyazo.com/b0f3734b8261d04c929c28f74da447d8.png) │ Physical │ 5130 │ 427 │ 180 │ 10 │ 157 │ 400 │ Map 2 │
│ │ Melee │ 10000 │ 850 │ 180 │ 10 │ 157 │ 490 │ Map 6 (has aura) │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ Cellia (https://i.gyazo.com/a6dcbffc77a68aeaafc775ff0baed337.png) │ Physical │ 10000 │ 600 │ 300 │ 20 │ 157 │ 450 │ Map 3 │
│ │ Melee │ 28000 │ 650 │ 450 │ 15 │ 157 │ 600 │ Map 6 (has aura) │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ Lyla (https://i.gyazo.com/125fea1e287e93f977cdb6de9b26ee69.png) │ Physical │ 11250 │ 990 │ 0 │ 0 │ 157 │ 400 │ Map 4 (has aura) │
│ │ Melee │ 25000 │ 2200 │ 0 │ 0 │ 157 │ 400 │ Map 6 (has aura) │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ Imelia (https://i.gyazo.com/35ae94cf270714bbc23d6f5d54bb2f8c.png) │ Physical │ 10000 │ 1400 │ 700 │ 10 │ 157 │ 200 │ Map 5 │
│ │ Melee │ 18000 │ 1400 │ 900 │ 0 │ 157 │ 450 │ Map 6 (has aura) │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ Anelia (https://i.gyazo.com/529c2b088879ac9a63225fc9561287ff.png) │ Physical │ 14000 │ 800 │ 200 │ 10 │ 251 │ 350 │ Map 5 \ (attacks up │
│ │ Ranged (200)│ 14000 │ 800 │ 200 │ 10 │ 251 │ 350 │ Map 6 / to 5 units) │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ C****d (https://i.gyazo.com/55cd795c00356cd5f8ea42c69c6042a1.png) │ Physical │ 13000 │ 1800 │ 0 │ 0 │ 162 │ 500 │ Map 6 (has aura) │
│ │ Melee │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │
├──────────┼──── ────────┼─────── ──────┼──────┼── ──┼─────┼─────┼─ ──────────────── ──┤
│ Holy │ Magic │ 300 │ 150 │ 120 │ 80 │ 91 │ 600 │ Map 3 \ flying, │
│ Spirit (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/millenniumwaraigis/images/c/ce/Spirit_Enemy.png/revision/latest?cb=20160920045016) │ Ranged │ 800 │ 150 │ 200 │ 90 │ 31 │ 600 │ Map 6 / don't stop │
└──────────┴──── ────────┴─────── ──────┴──────┴── ──┴─────┴─────┴─ ──────────────── ──┘

Stat correction: 0.9 for first maps, 0.95 for second, 1.0 for the rest.


Maps

Lolonee Bandits' Ambition


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 20 ║ Experience │ 140 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 1 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 750 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 18 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/ffe3e5a41a35f7b8.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijOBS0m_4D0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7n__Hq7jg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKVteZUv8-g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgVgG9J9jkw
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7126a2867798f205.png


For the King of Bandits Title


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 25 ║ Experience │ 180 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 2 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1125 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 28 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/8a1ae2fec13946b2.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVOyWgyb-iA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgI9RREpWDI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtorSsK-5Y4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qnsast302I
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7126a2867798f205.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/17f36a2e15601fc5.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c0abf3a757d0d6fa.png


Together with the Holy Spirit


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 30 ║ Experience │ 220 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 3 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1500 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 23 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/d96ed19c4c387882.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7rAsnkTBMU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9X_MliRvw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYC4dmlao3U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK-wgJwBfls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7GjG0Pd9k0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI_R6olLVc8
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7126a2867798f205.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/fd6f56b1ffd9904f.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/03fd984a550c3efe.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/affec06cfe3f15b4.png


The Bandits' Fighting Methods


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 40 ║ Experience │ 300 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 5 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 2250 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 43 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/b94171a95b06864a.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKO5ldrXozc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ya2yqnk_xc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMNTTK_gDGI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98prakVnJrM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrGvrFVec98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGVdPCyWUkM
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7126a2867798f205.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/898ec972d9d863ff.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2b952310af928a2f.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/cd0983a9e0e1a51f.png


Bandit and Pirate Princesses


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 55 ║ Experience │ 420 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 10 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 7 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 2700 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 36 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a5f521465fb0bd3f.jpg
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z54LGWTfrcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeZbBonWjdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHxGQbRp5L4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWWwxyJD-r0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY523vG4Ggc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sYO3UFBeNY
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7126a2867798f205.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/a76a4c92d01a0a54.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/57483c5c0ded1b6e.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/575582c9bbc6866f.PNG


Battle Royale for the King G


┌──────────┬──── ────────────┬─── ──╥────────────┬ ────╥─────────── ┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 90 ║ Experience │ 580 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼──── ────────────┼─── ──╫────────────┼ ────╫─────────── ┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 12 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 3600 ║ Life │ 6 ║ Enemies │ 12 │
└──────────┴──── ────────────┴─── ──╨────────────┴ ────╨─────────── ┴────┘

Gimmick: -
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/3270dfbb51ae673d.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ivhj_1r3Ms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bFeUlR694A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENlCjsBqq_I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHOZYE9a9kc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PCxxxum9jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVJdJVSrnBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vhbyRbp0Pk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHIZwxkmCXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7i0INtpYdQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8WyEZrn6w
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7126a2867798f205.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/beaf141f236ac7ba.pnghttp://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c17d10071b0a6cce.pnghttp://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/03fd984a550c3efe.png



Comments about the event
It's a debut of 90/12 map where event unit drops with 100% certainty, so should you really like Rorone Lolonee, you can be guaranteed 14 copies of her by parking your army there) You can ever find a silver rogue and bandit there, along with Platinum Spirits to feed Lolonee with. As for fodder farming angle, there's mage+heavy combo on map 4 and tin can alongside soldier and pirate on map 5. And Map 3 offers the spirits if you find two spirit dailies and Phalanx2 not enough) 20/1 should guaranteed drop Lolonee for the first completion (and only for the first one) as well)

For maps themselves, bandits, bandits everywhere! Be prepared to take heavy hits and return in kind (dodge&burn might actually be preferable to straight-up 4-face heavy tanking, especially in G-tier map). Care should be extended to Spirits, especially on last maps. They may be weak'ish, but are nearly immune to magic and shoot fast. Also C****d. If you for one reason or another always wanted to beat the ever-loving sh!t out of our lord and savior, here's your chance :D



New Characters Arriving

Note: This is based off of current JP version stats for perfected units.

Bandit girl Lolonee
http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/6308f61e15a7814d.jpg


┌─────┬──────╥── ────┬────────┐
│ HP │ 4397 ║ Range │ Melee │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼────────┤
│ Atk │ 907 ║ Block │ 1 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼────────┤
│ Def │ 238 ║ Cost │ 16 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼────────┤
│ MR │ 0 ║ │ │
└─────┴──────╨── ────┴────────┘

Skill: Risk Life III: 10s; Attack 2.6x, defense 0; AS: 83; WT: 12.5; CT: 25
Awakened Ability: Physical Damage Avoidance: 25% chance to dodge physical attack.
Awakened Skill (NI): Step Drive: 10s; attack 2.5x, defense 0; physical attack evasion +50% [75%]; AS: 83; WT: 15; CT: 30


Magic Armor Princess Grace
http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/7a24b12556b6b14e.jpg


┌─────┬──────╥── ────┬─────────── ────────┐
│ HP │ 3400 ║ Range │ Melee (skill: 180) │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ────────┤
│ Atk │ 541 ║ Block │ 4 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ────────┤
│ Def │ 607 ║ Cost │ 31 │
├─────┼──────╫── ────┼─────────── ────────┤
│ MR │ 20 ║ │ │
└─────┴──────╨── ────┴─────────── ────────┘

Skill: Overdrive: 35s; attack and defense 2.0x; current HP halved when skill ends; range [180]; AS: 102; WT: 1; CT: 55
Awakened Ability: Magic Barrier: By just being in sortie, grants all melee units +10 MR.
Awakened Skill (NI): Limiter Cut: 30s; attack and defense 2.3x; current HP halved when skill ends; range [180]; AS: 102; WT: 5; CT: 50
* Character is collaboration with Alicesoft.
** Yes, she's one who kicks your behind whom you bully in Saturday's Awakening Orb daily.
*** No, she's not a Princess, but full-fledged Mage Armor)


New Classes Being Introduced
None


All Hail to the King (of bandits) - us! :cool:

ЗЫ. Links:

MWAWiki (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Road_to_Becoming_the_King_of_Bandits) (EN)
Seesaa (http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%BB%B3%C2%B1%B2%A6%A4%D8%A4%CE%C6%BB) (JP)
GCWiki (http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%BB%B3%C2%B1%B2%A6%A4%D8%A4%CE%C6%BB) (JP)
WikiWiki (http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/?%BB%B3%C2%B1%B2%A6%A4%D8%A4%CE%C6%BB) (JP)

tidus
09-20-2016, 04:30 AM
thx 4 the guide
guess gonna just 3star this event. alredy have all other 3 platinum bandit so i dont think she is worth getting a slot, plus i read she change skill when aw so u need to aw all her copy to scr:|
but that new blacky seems strong

Blaxer
09-20-2016, 05:39 AM
Oh boi i had to re-do 5sta mission and when i come back from school Imelia will be facing Imelia :^)

Ramazan
09-20-2016, 05:40 AM
Of all the things in guide only that black unit and tin can interested me because im currently drowning with plat spirits thx to recent drop rate revision x_x gonna use lolone only for lyla skill up and i may save a cced copy for entertainment purposes :P thx for the funny guide :)

slyyr
09-20-2016, 06:12 AM
Wouldn't the skill change mean you need to CC her then use CCed copies to skill up her? Certainly explains why so many bandit drops on these maps.

ZeroZet
09-20-2016, 06:32 AM
Wouldn't the skill change mean you need to CC her then use CCed copies to skill up her? Certainly explains why so many bandit drops on these maps.Yup, as noted above
she'll be quite a chore to max skill to say frank, as you would need to CC every copy of her to get a Skill Up out of combine, in addition to Cost Reduction.. But thankfully she has a standard 5-leel skill, so usual stack of rainbow spirits would do the trick just as well)

Nero010
09-20-2016, 07:17 AM
If u have Imelia and other duelists like Sherry should you invest efforts into her? Even though she looks realy cute and cheeky i think this is the first event unit i could pass on investing in (as ccing her for skill ups is a pain and my rainbows would be better spend on 6/10 imelia)

IvanLedah21
09-20-2016, 07:19 AM
If u have Imelia and other duelists like Sherry should you invest efforts into her? Even though she looks realy cute and cheeky i think this is the first event unit i could pass on investing in (as ccing her for skill ups is a pain and my rainbows would be better spend on 6/10 imelia)

She is basically Lyla with a bit less power and a bit more survivability due to AW ability. If you have Imelia, Sherry, Lyla, or had the luck of recruiting the Black Princesses, you can get a guaranteed copy or two and leave it at that without much regret (unless you're a perfectionist, which your post says you're not)

Jay Rich
09-20-2016, 07:28 AM
She is going to be a hard unit to get max skill up...... I see my rainbow spirits getting a work out should I feel like using them on her.... Though she is also good news for my Lyla, should I feel in the mood to CC her. Might just focus on getting max CR and then farm bandits.

Oh and nice work once again Zerozet on the well written Guide!

kayfabe
09-20-2016, 07:38 AM
This should be a fun event for Elizabeths everywhere.

SabishiiRyuu
09-20-2016, 08:14 AM
Thanks for the guide. Does anyone know which map is the best map to farm her? 3*'d everything and I'm gonna start farming her. I've no need for her in my army, but as previously said I'm a perfectionist so I'll try and max CR her.

Overload
09-20-2016, 08:33 AM
Thanks for the guide. Does anyone know which map is the best map to farm her? 3*'d everything and I'm gonna start farming her. I've no need for her in my army, but as previously said I'm a perfectionist so I'll try and max CR her.

Practically it's the last one because of 100% event unit drop, theoretically it's the second last one with 50%, but well, you need to be lucky.

SabishiiRyuu
09-20-2016, 10:28 AM
Practically it's the last one because of 100% event unit drop, theoretically it's the second last one with 50%, but well, you need to be lucky.

You're certain the last one is 100% drop? if so, I'd take that over 50%

EDIT: You're right. It's guaranteed. Ran it 5 times and got 5 copies. Funny enough not a single one of those reduced her cost. really pissed me off lol.

EDIT 2: I've fed her about 15 copies and got only 2 CRs. This is down-right retarded.

lolix
09-20-2016, 11:56 AM
ah , the benefits of being a whale. Some of us didnt even finished the event yet



As for the unit , i actually like her more then lyla. She has a good combination of survavibility and dps , which lyla lacks for example , and much more damage then cellia which makes her good.

Im guessing this is the reason they made her skill change in the first place




That being said , having a perfect Imelia kinda makes her irelevant....but as our good fallen friend lafate used to say - u can never have too many duelists



PS - again , very good guide zero. keep up the good work

SabishiiRyuu
09-20-2016, 12:03 PM
ah , the benefits of being a whale. Some of us didnt even finished the event yet

Haha. I stopped spending so much on the game... well except last week. That said though, events have become a breeze with my main army, now.

Talith
09-20-2016, 12:38 PM
So far my blind run is going smoothly. Solano had a field day in Bandit and the Pirate Princesses. Incinerate a massive slow moving early swarm? That's basically her dream assignment.

Blaxer
09-20-2016, 02:30 PM
Omg i though it was funny and couldn't stop laughing for a while lol
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/09/20/JnvCO.png

buttlover
09-20-2016, 02:36 PM
Hmm, missed out about 6 months worth of gameplay due to work but seems like there isn't any good units missed. FeelsGoodMan

Hoping for a event black or dragon knights soon FingersCrossed.

scrubp
09-20-2016, 02:53 PM
Already got AW Olivie, AW Imelia, 50CC70 Lyla, 50CC50 Thetis, and a perfect Elva from the recent event sitting around waiting to be fed...

I think I'll just 3* all the maps and farm silvers

Eab1990
09-20-2016, 05:02 PM
Hmm, missed out about 6 months worth of gameplay due to work but seems like there isn't any good units missed. FeelsGoodMan

Hoping for a event black or dragon knights soon FingersCrossed.

Imelia, Shuuka, Waltz, and Memento are good, especially if you don't have their premium counterparts.

Unregistered
09-20-2016, 05:49 PM
Imelia is amazing even if you did have premium bandits as well. If you don't have the premiums I'd say missing all 4 of those would be a pretty big deal for future event maps. You might be fine with what you missed but there certainly was a lot in 6 months.

slyyr
09-20-2016, 07:26 PM
I'm going to CC and CR her but the skill is too much work to bother with. Even without it she's still ok if I really need yet another duelist.

Last map is proving tricky for me to get beyond 1 star but those guaranteed drops are keeping me interested.

buttlover
09-20-2016, 07:34 PM
Imelia, Shuuka, Waltz, and Memento are good, especially if you don't have their premium counterparts.

Indeed missing some girls are regrettable.

Managed to shuuka before i left, Waltz would be interesting to tryout since I have no time to level her in dmm.
Memento is a rare token generator (in nutaku) but is the weakest of the necromancers especially once metsu comes out.
Imelia and Lolonee (wtf nutaku translations) are just another replaceable duelist and that slot has too much competition.

What hurts my gameplay is really missing lark (black samurai) and rosel (plat monster slayer) in dmm.

ZeroZet
09-20-2016, 11:51 PM
Lolonee (wtf nutaku translations) <...> lark (black samurai)
... lark... wtf buttlover translations!? :p With stuff like this I doubt you should complain about whatever JP devs do to the names in our side ;) (they still do the handling, apparently)

Anyway, another big thing you missed was full unit rebalace patch (t'was an interesting experience to try out all that changes), but as you are dmm-side player, you should be just at home with the changes, as they brought Nutaku side units to exact parity with current JP side.

buttlover
09-21-2016, 03:24 AM
... lark... wtf buttlover translations!? :p With stuff like this I doubt you should complain about whatever JP devs do to the names in our side ;) (they still do the handling, apparently)

Anyway, another big thing you missed was full unit rebalace patch (t'was an interesting experience to try out all that changes), but as you are dmm-side player, you should be just at home with the changes, as they brought Nutaku side units to exact parity with current JP side.

Not the actual name for sure, but google translate doesn't do a good job of translating a mix of kanji and kantagana. 鬼切の使い手ヒバリ for anyone that can translate.

More importantly...they just posted something upcoming..
Also apparently there is a new event quest line only for newcomers which give them http://gyazo.com/bde8212d5cd14f8337371dc34d09efcd.png

SabishiiRyuu
09-21-2016, 05:25 AM
Not the actual name for sure, but google translate doesn't do a good job of translating a mix of kanji and kantagana. 鬼切の使い手ヒバリ for anyone that can translate. http://gyazo.com/bde8212d5cd14f8337371dc34d09efcd.png

The name is Hibari.

darkeleon
09-21-2016, 02:42 PM
i saw the video and went to 12 stamina mission , the pirate focus the dmg to my healer T___T i put in front a duelsit at front of her but he keep hitting my poor healer and killed her <.<wasted 12 stamina for 1 lonely platinum fairy

SabishiiRyuu
09-21-2016, 02:50 PM
i saw the video and went to 12 stamina mission , the pirate focus the dmg to my healer T___T i put in front a duelsit at front of her but he keep hitting my poor healer and killed her <.<wasted 12 stamina for 1 lonely platinum fairy


she does AoE since her skill is active. if you have a high level rogue(i used Berna but I assume Cypria works too) you deploy her quickly right after Imelia passes through and your healer will be safe.

I've done that mission nearly 30 times and I still haven't max CR'd Lolonee. Still need 1 more CR and I'll be done and can proceed to farm mages.

JMich
09-22-2016, 12:53 AM
the pirate focus the dmg to my healer T___T i put in front a duelsit at front of her but he keep hitting my poor healer and killed her
The VP Games guide shows that, and shows that Ertel is enough to keep your healer alive. So do add her to the sortie, in case you mess up with the duelist placement timing.
Been there, done that, and was pissed to realize that even though I planned to put Ertel in the sortie, I forgot about her :?

ZeroZet
09-22-2016, 01:18 AM
i saw the video and went to 12 stamina mission , the pirate focus the dmg to my healer T___T i put in front a duelsit at front of her but he keep hitting my poor healer and killed her <.<wasted 12 stamina for 1 lonely platinum fairyAnelia is not that beefy, so well-raised duelist can kill her before she kills him, so if you have the unit to do that, simply engage her as soon as Imelia passes and don't place anybody on T until Anelia's dead.

She has 191 dps and 14 000 health + 200 defense, if you want to !!math!! out who can do that)

IvanLedah21
09-22-2016, 06:37 AM
Anelia is not that beefy, so well-raised duelist can kill her before she kills him, so if you have the unit to do that, simply engage her as soon as Imelia passes and don't place anybody on T until Anelia's dead.

She has 191 dps and 14 000 health + 200 defense, if you want to !!math!! out who can do that)

My AW Sybilla demolished her lol

Also, if you use Fedora (I don't) you can deploy her out of AoE range earlier in fight and use her Range Up skill to heal your duelist if they need that extra support. You could also use two duelists if you don't have a single duelist capable of soloing her (swap out first when they're low)

Jay Rich
09-22-2016, 07:07 AM
My AW Sybilla demolished her lol

Also, if you use Fedora (I don't) you can deploy her out of AoE range earlier in fight and use her Range Up skill to heal your duelist if they need that extra support. You could also use two duelists if you don't have a single duelist capable of soloing her (swap out first when they're low)

Just got enough DC to get an AW spirit, my Awakened Sybilla is so close now, I look forward to her OP power, even though she feels pretty powerful already.

As for the event I managed to most missions first go except the last one which took my my second try to 3 star it. The last map I have only been able to one star by myself so I referred to the guides going around. Still yet to 3 star and and have only had a couple go's.

SabishiiRyuu
09-22-2016, 07:09 AM
Took me 34 copies but I finally min-costed Lolonee. Now onto farming mages.

Jay Rich
09-22-2016, 07:12 AM
Took me 34 copies but I finally min-costed Lolonee. Now onto farming mages.

I so hope it doesn't take me that many copies. Have put 6-7 copies into my main and need 3 more CR before min costed unit. I feel like it wont be an easy 3 CR..

Nero010
09-22-2016, 08:25 AM
I so hope it doesn't take me that many copies. Have put 6-7 copies into my main and need 3 more CR before min costed unit. I feel like it wont be an easy 3 CR..

I dont know what i was doing but i only have 1 Lolonee lol

SabishiiRyuu
09-22-2016, 09:37 AM
I so hope it doesn't take me that many copies. Have put 6-7 copies into my main and need 3 more CR before min costed unit. I feel like it wont be an easy 3 CR..

My 2nd CR took me about 15-20 copies. I was actually quite annoyed. You probably won't be as unlucky as me.
Tbf she's not a bad unit if you don't have a good duelist. A 16UP zerk with near Lyla strength is not bad at all.

IvanLedah21
09-22-2016, 11:46 AM
Just got enough DC to get an AW spirit, my Awakened Sybilla is so close now, I look forward to her OP power, even though she feels pretty powerful already.

As for the event I managed to most missions first go except the last one which took my my second try to 3 star it. The last map I have only been able to one star by myself so I referred to the guides going around. Still yet to 3 star and and have only had a couple go's.

The biggest change between Sybilla and AW Sybilla is during skill she can attack at range, but unlike Magic Fencers, she does so with full power (and being a Black Princess... that's a LOT of power).

I totally cheesed the last fight. I dropped AW Jerome (for UP generation) then just went straight ranged damage with AW Aisha, Minerva, Nanaly and Spica. I DID drop AW Sybilla to deal with Anelia though. IIRC she's the only one in that map with a ranged attack so as long as you're ready for her, you can RDPS the rest down with minimal risk (assuming your RDPS can kill them quick enough)

namhoang909
09-23-2016, 04:31 AM
so dark knight we got from previous event is nameless?

ZeroZet
09-23-2016, 04:36 AM
so dark knight we got from previous event is nameless?She swore off her previous name to atone for the sins she committed under the influence of a Greater Demon and now goes under the moniker of "-" :cool:

namhoang909
09-23-2016, 05:25 AM
I am kind of wondering if she can handle 2 rogues at the end of 90/12 Imelia and Lolonee

dtomoyo
09-23-2016, 07:20 AM
for Battle Royale for the King (90/12)

you can actually Assassinate most of unit.
if you have trouble fighting, try to believe in your luck and try to Assassinate something (....)
they dont have boss bonus, they god assassinated really easily for me (tried 3 times)

IvanLedah21
09-23-2016, 07:25 AM
I am kind of wondering if she can handle 2 rogues at the end of 90/12 Imelia and Lolonee

Given ALL the bandits in the final map have Risk Life active for massive attack boost, I highly recommend avoiding all melee fighting and just RDPS them down with Witches, Mages, Archers, etc. Bashira/Nanaly in particular shine because Risk Life drops defense to 0 so unless enemy buff somehow works differently, they should do full damage 3/4 times per volley. Actually, Archers/VHs are probably the best units to use here in this case, since Pirates have higher attack and Mages/Witches ignore defense (and hit MR) but all attack slower than those 2 classes and with enemies presumably having 0 defense, higher attack speed/multi-hit abilities will rock more than high powered hits.

Profile4
09-23-2016, 08:29 AM
This event seems to be pretty lowbie-friendly. Been farming the 7stam mission and it has a pretty great drop rate. Pretty much every run gives either Lolonee or a plat armor, sometimes both. Every 4 or 5 runs they toss a silver in for kicks. Already sitting at 8 Lolonee and 6 plat armors from it.

Eliont
09-23-2016, 09:05 AM
Got a bunch of Lolo and some silvers but not a single HA... I starting feel cursed...

Unregistered
09-23-2016, 09:14 AM
As ivan pointed out, archers and VH are your friends. The only reason this map isn't completely free is because of limited ranged spots. I have to do a bit of finagling with my blocks to get the 3 stars myself, but any two archers on the two right ranged spots take out half the enemies (Lolonee included). The Nasu guide in the first post gives a good idea on early deployment.

Tfmtfm
09-23-2016, 04:03 PM
Considering I don't want Lolonee I (of course) am getting a high number of her... no HAs, Soldiers, or Rogues. This is The Warmaiden's Oath all over again.

Varamathras
09-23-2016, 11:07 PM
Just min costed Lolonee. Trying to decide if it is worth cost reducing a second, or just using them for experience.

Davion
09-24-2016, 01:11 AM
I would say, it's better to "exp" them, you will probably not use second copy (or do it for lolz).

lolix
09-24-2016, 03:35 AM
first account , mincosted her in 8 copies.

second is at 3 cr after 6. was a bit lazy during this event. then again , my second has a lyla as well , so i dont need lolonee much. also my lyla is at max skill level already , so shes pointless. Ill aim toperfect her , since i need silver barbs anyway i guess...and extra duelists are not bad to have

Jay Rich
09-24-2016, 07:28 AM
Finally got my Lolonee min costed took me about 12 units to do so (wasn't keeping an exact count.). Now to farm for Bandits which I am seriously lacking. So far my luck with silvers has been bad but I haven't been trying to farm them yet. Still would like to have seen at least 3 by now by doing the harder maps...

slyyr
09-24-2016, 08:04 AM
Who do I have to screw to get silvers to drop this event LOL

Plenty of Lolonees though. I only want one Heavy and Mage so I can CC my Battle Mage. I guess thats too much to ask.

ZeroZet
09-24-2016, 08:30 AM
Min-costed Lolo with about 8 units, end result is CC62. Pretty good, all in all. But my plat spirit reserves took quite a hit for that...

Kinkoid
09-24-2016, 11:15 AM
Who do I have to screw to get silvers to drop this event LOL

Plenty of Lolonees though. I only want one Heavy and Mage so I can CC my Battle Mage. I guess thats too much to ask.

Same issue here. I've tons of Lolonees, several Leeane... no Mage... I'm started to be bored to grind the same map :)

Tfmtfm
09-24-2016, 02:55 PM
Who do I have to screw to get silvers to drop this event LOL

Plenty of Lolonees though. I only want one Heavy and Mage so I can CC my Battle Mage. I guess thats too much to ask.

Same issue here. I've tons of Lolonees, several Leeane... no Mage... I'm started to be bored to grind the same map :)
Welcome to my Hell,chips and drinks on the right. I just want 1-2 Leeannes and Rosalies.

chaos
09-24-2016, 03:20 PM
hope after this event is liana's event or gold rush

SabishiiRyuu
09-24-2016, 03:43 PM
Like the rest of you I'm in dire need of mages... and I'm not getting any.

Jay Rich
09-25-2016, 04:41 AM
What map would be the best to farm for bandits? Currently farming the 25/2 'For the King of Bandits Title' for Mortimer but wondering if my chances would be better on a harder map like 90/12 'Battle Royale for the King' for Eunice?

Reason I ask is I have done a 25/2 map countless times with only one Mortimer dropping.

JMich
09-25-2016, 06:31 AM
wondering if my chances would be better on a harder map like 90/12 'Battle Royale for the King' for Eunice?
Assume a 10% chance of Mortimer dropping. Your chances of not getting any Mortimers after running the map 6 times (aka 12 stamina) is 0.9^6 or about 53%. That means that your chances of getting at least one Mortimer in 6 runs is about 47%. I sincerely doubt if the 90/12 map has a 45% chance of dropping a Eunice.
If Mortimer's chance of dropping is 5%, then your chances of getting at least one in six runs is a bit over 25%. Still much better chances than getting a Eunice from last map.

Unregistered
09-25-2016, 07:12 AM
The obvious trade off is the guaranteed Lolonee drop and good chance of Plat Spirit. If you truly don't care about those though then the 25/2 map will mean more silver bandits per resource spent.

Tfmtfm
09-25-2016, 04:44 PM
I feel like I'm being trolled. No Leeannes, no Rosalies, EIGHT LOLONEES... a unit I don't want. Wish I could get 8 of something I do want next Farm Event.

Ramazan
09-25-2016, 06:02 PM
Dont know how many it took but i got a maxed lolonee without spending sc, except that night when i rage-spend 3 sc (cha/sta) in order to beat last map... which i did thankfully.

denate
09-25-2016, 10:27 PM
Assume a 10% chance of Mortimer dropping. Your chances of not getting any Mortimers after running the map 6 times (aka 12 stamina) is 0.9^6 or about 53%. That means that your chances of getting at least one Mortimer in 6 runs is about 47%. I sincerely doubt if the 90/12 map has a 45% chance of dropping a Eunice.
If Mortimer's chance of dropping is 5%, then your chances of getting at least one in six runs is a bit over 25%. Still much better chances than getting a Eunice from last map.

Thank you, This probability math alway curse me to painful headache.

Tenhou
09-26-2016, 11:23 AM
Decided to try to get some soldiers during the weekend and ran a few 7 stamina maps. Ended up with no soldiers and a 4CR Lolonee. Well okay, i won't even use her damn it >.<

Nero010
09-26-2016, 12:52 PM
I got 7 lolonees combined into my main one but only -2 cr and 4/5 skill (which means nothing) so her cost is just down to standart. My luck is cheatin on me. Even if i wont use her often having 2 plat bandits is usefull

EDIT: Used 15 SC got her Min costed and an extra copy for guaranteed su after cc. Call me crazy but... usualy id get maybe 2 silvers and 1 gold from shrine with 15 sc so... in my eyes itd be a waste to use them on premium summon and not on an event unit

YoxalLoyal
09-26-2016, 07:51 PM
Final day and alt. account has her at -4CR. Ah well. There's always that daily revival in the far far future to mincost her. Kinda sad I wasted 1 SC only to get a silver pirate out of it. Though I did get a ton of plat armors, so that's a plus.

Main account was trying to farm for plat armors, but only got 3-4 so far. Did get a ton of Lolos though. Come on Aigis, stahp trolling me with your drops! On the plus side, I fed two CC'ed Lolos to Lyla and got +2SU.

slyyr
09-26-2016, 08:08 PM
Since my last post I have had 1 mage drop and 1 lolonee. I will have stam for maybe 1-2 more rolls of the dice before the end. Last night I spent resources on gold farming as I badly needed it potentially going into another week off.

lolix
09-27-2016, 06:41 PM
both my lolonees are max crs , like...2 days before the event ended , and i even got to farm a full day of monday daily. I probably cr-ed both in under 12 tries. 1 was done in 8 for certain.

Managed to get some silver barbs as well , since i kinda needed them to start awakening my plat barbs.....all in all a good event for me. I kinda like lolonees personality as well , and i think her skill , passive aw ability and cost make her better then my lyla (excluding aw skills , which i dunno what lolonee gets) , so i might actually awaken her in the future. Kinda lazy tho , since lyla is cc-ed and max lvl already...

kayfabe
09-27-2016, 06:50 PM
My understanding is that her SAW still gives attack power but also bumps up her evasion from 25% to 75%. Not bad on paper, but the duration is apparently still shitty. Lyla's SAW crushes it by turning her into a relatively low cost wave clearer.

Personally, I'm just gonna bed Lolo before feeding her to Conrad and forgetting this whole event ever happened. :P

Nero010
09-28-2016, 05:07 AM
My understanding is that her SAW still gives attack power but also bumps up her evasion from 25% to 75%. Not bad on paper, but the duration is apparently still shitty. Lyla's SAW crushes it by turning her into a relatively low cost wave clearer.

Personally, I'm just gonna bed Lolo before feeding her to Conrad and forgetting this whole event ever happened. :P

This Prince here knows no mercy. A true barbarian King indeed.

Blaxer
09-28-2016, 11:52 AM
So i got 0 silvers and 7 lolos... i'm fucking crying... i'm just gonna trade all for RC, not even gonna bother with feeding her to conrad, i mean, 3 silver 1 fairy and leveling for EACH copy lol no ty
i guess i'll have better luck next event *crossing fingers*

IvanLedah21
09-28-2016, 03:18 PM
So i got 0 silvers and 7 lolos... i'm fucking crying... i'm just gonna trade all for RC, not even gonna bother with feeding her to conrad, i mean, 3 silver 1 fairy and leveling for EACH copy lol no ty
i guess i'll have better luck next event *crossing fingers*

Just saying... I hope you realize that Event Units give pitiful amounts of RC, you're better off using them as mini-platinum armors if you aren't going to use them. Event Plat gives like 5 RC IIRC.

lolix
09-28-2016, 03:31 PM
Just saying... I hope you realize that Event Units give pitiful amounts of RC, you're better off using them as mini-platinum armors if you aren't going to use them. Event Plat gives like 5 RC IIRC.

i agree. gives 4-5k xp , while discharging will give like 3 RC. not sure if worth.

Talith
09-28-2016, 04:01 PM
I collect them specifically to use as plat-lites because monday daily HATES me.

kayfabe
09-28-2016, 04:41 PM
Just saying... I hope you realize that Event Units give pitiful amounts of RC, you're better off using them as mini-platinum armors if you aren't going to use them. Event Plat gives like 5 RC IIRC.

It's even worse at only 3 per turn in yet I still disagree, at least for some players. If you're not a whale then event units are practically the only game in town when it comes to Rainbow Crystals. I'm not actually that enthused about the Black Knight but my army is already fairly mature and can easily afford to squirrel some RC away here and there until the day Leona comes around.

Arkinum
09-29-2016, 06:46 AM
Not a great event for me. Got a nearly perfect event unit (until I cc her anyway, at least I got some decent min cost). About 3 silvers that I don't really need right now.....

IvanLedah21
09-29-2016, 06:52 AM
It's even worse at only 3 per turn in yet I still disagree, at least for some players. If you're not a whale then event units are practically the only game in town when it comes to Rainbow Crystals. I'm not actually that enthused about the Black Knight but my army is already fairly mature and can easily afford to squirrel some RC away here and there until the day Leona comes around.

Hm...
Standard Event Farm Unit: 50% chance on 55/7 map = 3 RC
vs.
150 DC Cyrus = 20 RC

If you can handle Crystal Keeper G, you can get 12-18 DC per run for 80/8 per run, averaging to 10 runs per Cyrus, for 800/80
Event unit would need 7 copies to tie (actually, barely beat) 1 Cyrus, so 7 x 2 (50% chance) x 55/7 = 770/98

Due to Stamina being in shorter supply than Charisma (at level 200, you have like 420 Charisma but only 18 Stamina), Cyrus would be cheaper for SC usage. Of course, we're assuming non-whale so you'd basically want to combine the two when farm events come around, going for as many event unit copies on every day but Thursday. Since not every event is farm unit, Cyrus is more reliable, per se, but you obviously get many more runs of the event map in purely due to Cyrus' DC being available only one day a week.

kayfabe
09-29-2016, 11:17 AM
That, and I'm personally willing to risk pursuing a mixed strategy when it comes to using my SC on gacha and refills, so I tend to hoard my SC a bit more than most people. It's rare that the spotlight is good enough to get my attention, but I was willing to blow some SC on things like the Monica, Thetis & Gellius spotlight. I'd light all my SC on fire if they ever offer Nadia+Rachel or Uzume.

buttlover
09-29-2016, 12:05 PM
can someone enlighten me why Rachel is a good pick over say, spica? I would say they are competing for the same slots.

IvanLedah21
09-29-2016, 12:24 PM
can someone enlighten me why Rachel is a good pick over say, spica? I would say they are competing for the same slots.

Rachel has higher attack and range, plus a brief but powerful slow (75% for .25 seconds lol) and isn't made of paper. Spica's advantages are lower cost, higher attack speed and her Archer Attack UP buff. Until Skill AW they ARE competing for the same slots more or less.
Rachel: Attack 712 at AW MAX, Range 325
Spica: Attack 589/630 at AW MAX, Range 260 (312 during skill)

Spica's attack speed advantage doesn't really make up the massive gap in attack, and Rachel's range advantage is huge outside skill. If you're using other archers in the same deployment group this changes though. The 2nd number for Spica's attack is there in case the Wiki doesn't include her Archer Attack Up 7% buff in her stats

ZeroZet
09-29-2016, 01:21 PM
And then there's Rachel's Quick Shot 2 that brings her to the (nearly) same attack speed as Spica and further buffs her attack by whopping x1.7. And it is up nearly half of the time! (30s duration / 40s cooldown)

kayfabe
09-29-2016, 03:21 PM
Rachel is admittedly more of a long term investment but she's just plain practical once SU'd. Her skills paper over her class's only weakness and thus she can contribute against anything but the most absurdly armored units. Basically, think of it this way: Spica is so good that anyone who can outperform her at all is automatically worth a good hard look. Plus, later on we'll (hopefully) be getting a free Advance Guard that comes with a 10% attack power buff to Pirates that further erodes Spica's advantages. Those of you related to Kyogre should further note that it should stack with Anelia's Awakened ability and allow you to thus bring even more pain.

TLDR: I wouldn't necessarily gun just for Rachel but if I happened to pull her from a loaded spotlight I'd in no way be disappointed.

Blaxer
09-29-2016, 05:27 PM
Is she really THAT good? i don't really use pirates but since i have her maxed cc already i'm considering AW her
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/09/30/qreM0cl.png
I'm on my way to AW Nanaly atm, but the only thing i lack is not gonna be avialable until monday so...

Do i do it? if i get good drops from the last runs on today's daily i will have enough for another AW fairy, that and i already have my CC'd silver for Nanaly besides Rachel's.

kayfabe
09-29-2016, 08:41 PM
If by "THAT good" you mean "better than Nanaly" the answer is hell no. Rachel does everything you could reasonably expect from a platinum pirate but that's not the same thing at all as being on the same level as Nanaly. Nanaly murders the ever lovin' crap out of things. The reason I fixate more on units like Nadia, Uzume, Gellius and Rachel more than Minerva, Nanaly & Aisha is because the former group of units is merely hard to acquire while the latter group drinks big salty whale tears with every meal.

Jay Rich
09-29-2016, 08:44 PM
Is she really THAT good? i don't really use pirates but since i have her maxed cc already i'm considering AW her
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2016/09/30/qreM0cl.png
I'm on my way to AW Nanaly atm, but the only thing i lack is not gonna be avialable until monday so...

Do i do it? if i get good drops from the last runs on today's daily i will have enough for another AW fairy, that and i already have my CC'd silver for Nanaly besides Rachel's.

I couldn't say for certain I have both Nanaly and Rachel but only got Nanaly recently. Nanaly being a black unit and a must have archer is powerful, her quad shot and increase range with affection make her deadly during her skill. Though on the other hand Rachel being a prate packs more of a punch and with her skill active becomes a powerful unit with a larger range than most if not all archers especially when she is awakened.

Personally in my opinion both are good to have AW but end of the day it is who you believe it is better for your team. I am going to awaken Rachel first on my team as I already have Spica and Bashira as good archers but will eventually AW my Nanaly too. Her increased range and skill make her good for large maps and with her affection up has more health than Nanaly just a little less defense but only by two point. But as I said who would you use more?

kayfabe
09-29-2016, 09:37 PM
Nanaly's big claim to fame is that she's a ridiculous "first pick" unit due to her skill being front-loaded--Triple & Quadra Shot don't scale with skill ranks worth a damn, but they're still strong enough that you can murder everything without first throwing a bunch of fairies in her direction. Throw in the Black tier initial skill timer and you have a unit that's uniquely suited to single-handedly carrying a crappy team past nasty early rushes through the magic of superior firepower. She's less dramatic on a veteran team that's already rocking Awakened plats but even then she's a nice pickup.

Blaxer
09-29-2016, 10:07 PM
If by "THAT good" you mean "better than Nanaly" the answer is hell no. Rachel does everything you could reasonably expect from a platinum pirate but that's not the same thing at all as being on the same level as Nanaly. Nanaly murders the ever lovin' crap out of things. The reason I fixate more on units like Nadia, Uzume, Gellius and Rachel more than Minerva, Nanaly & Aisha is because the former group of units is merely hard to acquire while the latter group drinks big salty whale tears with every meal.


I couldn't say for certain I have both Nanaly and Rachel but only got Nanaly recently. Nanaly being a black unit and a must have archer is powerful, her quad shot and increase range with affection make her deadly during her skill. Though on the other hand Rachel being a prate packs more of a punch and with her skill active becomes a powerful unit with a larger range than most if not all archers especially when she is awakened.

Personally in my opinion both are good to have AW but end of the day it is who you believe it is better for your team. I am going to awaken Rachel first on my team as I already have Spica and Bashira as good archers but will eventually AW my Nanaly too. Her increased range and skill make her good for large maps and with her affection up has more health than Nanaly just a little less defense but only by two point. But as I said who would you use more?


Nanaly's big claim to fame is that she's a ridiculous "first pick" unit due to her skill being front-loaded--Triple & Quadra Shot don't scale with skill ranks worth a damn, but they're still strong enough that you can murder everything without first throwing a bunch of fairies in her direction. Throw in the Black tier initial skill timer and you have a unit that's uniquely suited to single-handedly carrying a crappy team past nasty early rushes through the magic of superior firepower. She's less dramatic on a veteran team that's already rocking Awakened plats but even then she's a nice pickup.

i think i didn't make myself clear here, i WILL awake Nanaly because 1. i want that nice range up and 2. she has a nice dmg up against flying monsters
i was just asking if Rachel was worth awakening, now i have done some research and while she seems usefull in the future (dat 90s skill), right now she seems more like a situational unit to me, maybe i'll awake her after a few units

Jay Rich
09-30-2016, 03:03 AM
i think i didn't make myself clear here, i WILL awake Nanaly because 1. i want that nice range up and 2. she has a nice dmg up against flying monsters
i was just asking if Rachel was worth awakening, now i have done some research and while she seems usefull in the future (dat 90s skill), right now she seems more like a situational unit to me, maybe i'll awake her after a few units

Sorry got caught up in my explanation of what I thought of her and went all out lol. She definitely isn't a priority unit to AW but one if you do have use for pirates or can see use for her in the future which I do.

IvanLedah21
09-30-2016, 06:49 AM
Now here's a question: Should I AW Rachel when I have AW Nanaly, MINERVA, Aisha, Despara, Farne, Spica, Sasha, Adele, Yuyu and Garania for ranged damage already? lol

buttlover
09-30-2016, 07:06 AM
Now here's a question: Should I AW Rachel when I have AW Nanaly, MINERVA, Aisha, Despara, Farne, Spica, Sasha, Adele, Yuyu and Garania for ranged damage already? lol

Not like you have anything else to do in nutaku ahaHAHA.

Jay Rich
10-01-2016, 07:04 AM
Now here's a question: Should I AW Rachel when I have AW Nanaly, MINERVA, Aisha, Despara, Farne, Spica, Sasha, Adele, Yuyu and Garania for ranged damage already? lol

I say Awaken all units!!! You can never have a powerful enough army.