Hey There new Player looking for advice

[Kira]

Hey There im a new player, I started when the event of Lolonee was ending so im not that strong and I would like to ask for advice on how to lvl/CC my units (with my current team I keep loosing the 4th battle of the ongoing event "Ruined City") Im lvl66 dont have the matts for CC yet so my best fighters are

Archers
Bashira lvl50
Soma lvl42
Daniela lvl10

Soldier
Katie lvl50
Phyllis lvl49
Crave lvl22

Heavy Infantry
Leeane lvl37

Healer
Iris lvl38
Alissa lvl15

Witch and Mage
Belinda lvl30
Valerie lvl15

Bandit
Lolone lvl43

Lancer
Elaine lvl20


And i just spend all my SCs (freeplayer so only 50) and got box expantion (needed the room)
and this units

Feng Shui Master Mia currently at lvl 15
Hunter Stray lvl 20
Half-Elf Yuyu lvl 20
Priest Chrostopher lvl 30
Rogue Harissa lvl 30

Im thinking on adding all of them or at least Mia, Stray, Harissa and yuyu to my main team, and i guess i should try to lvl up Mia, yuyu and Stray since they are plat and gold units so my question is,
Should I buy a spirit of gold with the demon cristals? (only got like 20 or so) so I can CC Katie (and soon Iris) or
should I keep lvling my current team?, or start lvling Mia and Stray instead?

BTW current Team is

Katie
Phyllis
Crave
Iris
Alissa
Dorca (lvl9)
Bashira
Soma
Daniela
Elaine
Leeane
Belinda
Valerie
Lolone
Cypria (lvl20)

[buttlover]

My advice to new players is to focus on growing, you can try to get a base event unit if you feel lucky but the main target is to CC an archer/Vampire hunter, unless you have a really good plat/black.
Reason why is at the lower levels, enemies generally have no armor and the increase range really helps clear the starting maps. (a pre-cc witch can handle armors till you are ready)

My recommended CC units: Bashira (you should have enough silver archers if not then your strongest silver archer then bash) -> Katie/Belinda -> mia/iris/valerie.
Your goal is to clear daily missions on hard and all of them need at least 1 CC archer(except monday which you can run with 2 CC witches+mage)

Do NOT buy spirits, its never worth the demon crystals.
Save your crystals for spica.

I would leave the event maps for the weekends and focus on daily maps during the weekdays. If you can get 1 copy of DK it is more than enough, the cost of her is so high, that CR doesn't really matter.

[Ericridge]

You want your Leeanne 50CC50 as soon as possible. She's the ones taking the hits for your team. Then level up your Healers as well. Bigger heals can make quite a difference.

After your tank/healer is taken care of, your next most important is dps. If you're losing battles because monsters keep on getting past you then it means your dps isn't dpsing hard enough and you need to level them next.

No Calliope? You want at least two witches for Phalanx 2 to grind for affection + gold/platinum fairies if you need them.

Phalanx 2 has been pretty good in terms of affection item drops.

Both Katie and Phyllis is pretty good. Crave might be dropped cuz he's an attacker and not a UP Generator.

Cypria is strong. Her assassinate probably can save you sometimes.

[buttlover]

You want your Leeanne 50CC50 as soon as possible. She's the ones taking the hits for your team. Then level up your Healers as well. Bigger heals can make quite a difference.

After your tank/healer is taken care of, your next most important is dps. If you're losing battles because monsters keep on getting past you then it means your dps isn't dpsing hard enough and you need to level them next.

No Calliope? You want at least two witches for Phalanx 2 to grind for affection + gold/platinum fairies if you need them.

Phalanx 2 has been pretty good in terms of affection item drops.

Both Katie and Phyllis is pretty good. Crave might be dropped cuz he's an attacker and not a UP Generator.

Cypria is strong. Her assassinate probably can save you sometimes.

Please...just no.
A lv50 leeanne is enough to carry you to the desert maps (fiery oasis) where the good xp/unit xp is.

He doesnt need calliope (not worth min-costing yet) when he has BOTH belinda and yuyu.
I keep mixing Cyrus with Cypria (hence the edit) - he'll need a mage/mage armor rather than a rogue.

He will eventually need leeanne CC-ed but not till he has enough dps to clear the adds (no point blocking so much till you can clear them fast enough)
@kira, I would recommend you giving affection to your plat and above units first. Like bash/belinda/mia. (At this point, i'm treating mia as your 2nd core healer)

[lolix]

first of all - never buy spirits with demon cristals (or the gold mages for that matter) . Second of all , spending scs on expanding the inventory was smarter then what most of us did in the early levels.....even tho getting some premiums early can help a lot (assuming u get lucky)



Now , as for why u can't really pass it , it's simply because your team is weak. You do need to cc stuff. CC-ed units are a whole lot stronger then non-cced units. Actually , i'd suggest u skip this event (or try to get a couple copies on the first maps - but generally it's not worth because of the low drop rate) and try to raise your team. Lucille , while a very good unit , it's also pretty niche right now. Not that high of a priority for you. Hell...u might even try to farm the 3rd map for the silver angel/magic fencer if u feel like , but they are not a priority either , and they still have low drop rate as well. Right now , the best thing u can do is level up your units.



As for CC_ing , i'm going to name what i would do in order of importance(priority) :



1. Very high priority :


Bashira , katie , iris , leanne - aka the typical HAT setup (healer/archer/tank). Right now bashira is your strongest unit. CC_ing , maxing aff and raising her level will give you a very strong archer. Archers are also one of the most general use units in the game , so its good to raise them asap.
Katie has a good skill for ramping up points , and is rather tanky as well for a soldier, so she can act like a pseudotank for a while as well.




2. Medium priority:


Belinda , valerie (or the female silver mage since she is better , if u have her) , alissa (preferably mia if u have the resources) , Lolone , soma


Belinda is a very good witch for an event unit for the simple fact that she's good even without being CR (cost reduced) - since she starts at the same cost as a premium unit.

Valerie - will be your basic aoe damage dealer


Lolonee - i'm guessing she is not cr-ed , or at a low cr (max 1/2) - not that great of a choice , but your other duelist seems to be elaine , which is pretty bad , so go with her. U will also need a duelist in your team.


Soma and alissa are ther efor the simple fact that u lack better untis of this class. U will generally need at least 2 archers (i'd honestly suggest daniela since shes better then soma , but soma starts with affection (and she's already lvl 42) , so u dont have to waste extra aff items on her) to farm DC (demon cristals) , and generally having 2 healers will be required from now on. If u have the resources to cc , aff and raise Mia , she is better , but otherwise , her heal is too small (even tho feng shui masters are really good at aoe healing/poison maps)





3. Low priority


yuyu , second mage , second duelist , second heavy , specialists




Yuyu is actually a very good witch - with platinum levels of dps (she's an elf - low hp , increased attack and attack speed) , and u will generally need at least 2 witches.


A second mage is always good to have. Best would be to get lucky and get a premium since they are quite a bit stronger. If not , try to make your second mage a Pallis instead of valerie , since her skill is better then his.

As for second duelist - i'd suggest getting a valk , since they are good to have vs early rushes , and can also help ramp up your points on some maps.


Specialists - Generally event , and niche units with specific roles. Not the highest priority to cc or raise , but some can be really good when their niche happens to apear during an event.

i'd actually suggest getting at least 1 magic fencer actually since they can act as both ranged on meele slot , and as a pseudo princess during skill - aka magic damage that ignores armor.







As for your future plans , i'd suggest getting spica asap from trading post. She is arguably the second best archer in the game , after nanaly , and between her and bashira , u will have a solid ranged lineup.

Don't bother with saki for now. Ninjas are specialists , and saki is not worth getting asap. Hell , i'd argue that u can even awaken 3-4 units before actually getting saki , but that's debatable , and far into the future for u.







Well , this are my 2 cents. Hope it helps somehow , and sorry for the wall of text

[Kira]

Thanks for all the advice you guys rock! :D

So the plan will be like this then, save Demon Crystals for Spica and start lvling Iris, Leeanne, Mia and start working on my witches belinda and yuyu and CC Katie I should get a gold fairie tomorrow in the stamp card I think (bashira will take time since I need a spirit of plat for her and currentrly I dont know where to get one)

Also for affection should I use Crystals or wait till I can farm Phalax 2 for rubies?
(I remember reading somewhere that I should not use Bouquets because they give the less affection points)

And I will keep using my stamina on map 3 with luck i might grab something (thats how I got 3 belindas in last event :p)

@samyy Idont know how to re-roll or I might try to do it for a second account :p

[Ericridge]

If you have spare Stamina to burn and not doing any of the needed daily quest/ event maps, any challenge map for affection item is better than nothing. Phalanx 2 is pretty hard to do until your units is CC'd though.

Before Phalanx 2, I farmed my affection items in Gigantic enemy map. It was fastest one to do.

[lolix]

u might try the dailies for plat spirits



http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Missions

Detalied guide (with videos by Nasu for most maps)

[lolix]

well....i do.....got an 200+ account with no black (other then saki) :(

[kayfabe]

(I remember reading somewhere that I should not use Bouquets because they give the less affection points)

There's no real drawback to using up your bouquets, actually. When it comes to spirits and affection the best advice would probably be to check out this link (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Challenge_Quests) as well as the Daily Missions other posters have already mentioned. As you can tell from the chart there's a lot of maps where any benefit you're gaining from using higher value gifts is undermined by having to pay more Stamina to farm them to begin with. Ultimately your big decision will likely be based on the spirits you need more than anything else. Farming Low Cost Battle & A Gigantic Enemy is tedious compared to Phalanx 2 but it's often a strong option for newer accounts that still rely heavily on Silver & Gold units.

[Ericridge]

Yeah Kayfabe, My team for A gigantic enemy is three iron soldiers and two iron archers, they're all lvl 30. I can just deploy them all then hit the fast forward.

That's pretty much what i do there.

[ToTeras]

I see no mention of Cloris. If you haven't done them already, run her maps as they will give you a few more silvers and another gold witch (although Yuyu is better). Then, like others said, run the challenge missions for your spirits (and affection) because you need to CC your core units ASAP. Skip the event if need be, and never buy spirits for DC.

[IvanLedah21]

Agreed you should largely ignore this event, at least for the first few days. Leveling Bashira, Leanne and Mia/Iris (or Alissa if you're short on gold) is your priority. After them a duelist, Katie, Belinda and Yuyu (hopefully you get a better mage than Valerie, if not you'll have to level him too; Pallis the female silver mage is better if you get her). Daniela is generally better than Soma but Soma starts with a huge head start in affection and yours also has a massive level advantage so at this stage, where you're leveling a lot at once, just stick with Soma for now as your second archer. they're both totally outclassed by Spica (who outclasses all archers except Nanaly the Black and Bashira for burst damage) who should be a priority acquisition once you can manage at least Crystal Keeper N, if not H (Mia will help a ton here if she's leveled)

I see Phyllis is 49, she's actually functional for what she's supposed to do (generate UP) at Level 50 Pre-CC, so you can leave her where she is for the most part. ToTeras mentioned Cloris, but honestly you have Yuyu and Belinda, both generally superior witches so while you can and should do her challenge maps to pick up the free silvers and her, I wouldn't bother leveling her.

For duelists, Lolonee and Cypria are your only viable options, Elaine is meh at best 99% of the time. Depending on how many CR you got on Lolonee, you might prioritize Cypria despite her dependence on RNG simply due to UP costs.

If you find yourself running short on gold, sell iron fodder from story maps rather than using them in combination.

TLDR: Acquire Spica ASAP
Level Priority:
Bashira > Leanne > Iris/Mia (Alissa if gold is an issue) > Katie > Duelist > Soma > Belinda > Yuyu > Valerie

Once you get 200 DC, grab Spica and start leveling her ASAP (replace Bashira with Spica since by the time you get Spica Bashira should be 50CC30 at least)


NEVER CC/CE A UNIT YOU PLAN TO USE BEFORE LEVEL 50!!! I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH, FAILING TO DO SO WILL PERMANENTLY GIMP THE UNIT'S STATS!!!

[Ramazan]

@Lolix: You were the one who advised me to reroll accounts until i get something good, when i first started to game. Recently i noticed you didnt do the same to newcomers :D not that i dislike the idea tho, just wanted to point out this.

@OP: Rerolling accounts is frustrating, make sure you have enough free time to do it, took me 2 days to get a black. But it was well worth it (farne, marnie and mikoto says hi :)) you got mia from shrine as a plat as i see and you also have belinda/lolonee which are decent units and good reason to keep your account but urge of getting blacks will be strong later on, dont say nobody warn you :D another good thing is you didnt cced at 30, never do it below max level and like buttlover said try to unlock "Fiery Oasis" map as fast as you can, look for guides on youtube, faster that way but if you want to make your own strategy then go ahead.

I understand sammy's frustration btw, mikoto is a multiple witch-mage-semi necromancer-panic button combined in one person :D dont know if there is any unit even at dmm that has more utility than her.

[IvanLedah21]

Just wanted to add something that might help you, OP:
Recommended Farming maps:
Unit XP: Return to Ruins, Immortal Beast, Fiery Oasis
Gold: Deep Forest Road
Prince XP: Dragon Hunting, Immortal Beast, last Eastern Kingdom whose name escapes me atm.
Jack of All Trades: Remnant Vanquish 3, Base Scramble II

Listed earliest to latest, the later ones are better but obviously harder to access. If there's a good gold map besides DFR, someone else can talk about it. Personally, I found as long as you sell iron fodder and don't try to level Post CC40 plat/black units with bronze fodder gold generally isn't an issue until you start Awakening units, so I'd stick with either the unit XP maps or the Jack of all Trades.

[Kira]

Thanks for all the good advice <br />
<br />
Im still working on my team but so far CCKatie and shes lvl35 (shes my actual tank right now) and in a couple of days when I get another gold spirit I should CC...

[lolix]

1. affection can be max 50 untill u cc a unit. after cc , u can get 100 aff.


2. Kerry was given to older players instead of bashira. New players now get bashira which is a much better unit.


3. I suggested Cc-ing iris over Mia because shes much cheaper to cc. Also she can do okay as a general healer , but she can burst heal as well with her skill. Mia is a different type of healer. Iris takes priority over Mia IMO. But she should be cc-ed as well , since feng shui masters are really good to have as well.


4. Acount farming is generally more effective if u do 1-2 summons at the start , see what u get and then abandon it if its not what u need. Getting 30-40 scs on each account sems like a huge waste of time IMO.
Then again , i've never done that since i got lucky and got nanaly on my second account from the first try. That being said , u don't absolutly need a black unit for your account to make it work. As i said , my first acount has no black (other then saki) and it's level 200+. Haven't had an event yet that i couldn't complete 100% yet



@Ramazan - i haven't really advised newbies in general since i got lazy. Actually i said from the start that getting a black can be really good since they are powefull , but playing on an account without a black can also be done. The reason i didn't advised him to re-roll more ...strongly is because he's already decently high leveled , with 2 event units (and a really good 1 at that in belinda ). Also a feng shui master is a really good unitto have for dailies in the future (a bit less now) , so he did got a pretty decent acount already

[Ramazan]

Indeed, lolonee is alternative lyla and belinda is the best witch for some.
@Kira: i think your options are obvious now, you can play with 2 accounts like rest of us do, some even have more than 2 and its Ok i think. Aigis is a "very" slow paced game really, especially after they introduced 12 stam event maps.
Playing with mia can be fun, dunno if %15 boost works with commission sortie o_O marr is just so OP for a fengshui master, i feel like cheating when playing with her.
*still gets rekt to those bastard ninjas*

[kayfabe]

Level Priority:
Bashira > Leanne > Iris/Mia (Alissa if gold is an issue) > Katie > Duelist > Soma > Belinda > Yuyu > Valerie


One nitpick: I'd actually prioritize CCing Val over CCing a second witch on any account that gets no immediate gains from acquiring black spirits/beating Wall of Magic. Mages may be irritatingly expensive but they're a necessary evil on young accounts and the 70 extra range can make deployment a lot simpler.

[lolix]

actually i don't even see the point of rushing to cc soma before cc-ing belinda. Unless he somehow wants to rush DC farming , but having a cc-ed witch will help advance both the story and the quests.

And yeah , i agree that valerie/pallis takes priority over yuyu

[buttlover]

Bashira > Leanne > Iris/Mia (Alissa if gold is an issue) > Katie > Duelist > Soma > Belinda > Yuyu > Valerie


Not sure why everyone wants leeanne upped so quickly.
I pretty much ran straight to desert maps by lv50 with 3 CC units. Bashira+Katie+Iris.
Granted, i knew what i was doing and DMM has no shortage of silvers. (plan was to skip leeanne entirely, and it worked out)
That said, you'll still need leeanne in nutaku for lack of a better replacement. Hopefully the end of the year we'll have a gold rush with bernice.

Source: Leveling new account on DMM (1 month old)

Katie pretty much covers as a tank till the harder maps.
Soma can be skipped if you are close to spica (>100+ DC) -> I would advice a VH to replace as the 3rd range dps when you need one

[lolix]

he is decently leveled up and pretty far already. He will need a real tank....especially if he wants to do at least a part of the future event maps. Also , he is a newbie . It's better totell him the basics first , and when he knows what he's doing , he can alter his own team comps as he seems fit.

[IvanLedah21]

actually i don't even see the point of rushing to cc soma before cc-ing belinda. Unless he somehow wants to rush DC farming , but having a cc-ed witch will help advance both the story and the quests.

And yeah , i agree that valerie/pallis takes priority over yuyu

Valerie over Yuyu is legit if he can't get a Pallis first, I'll admit, not sure why I said that. Soma before Belinda is precisely to make DC farming more accessible, since Spica access is a moderately high priority.

[lolix]

problem is that , unless he is willing to pay to recharge stamina , he won't run the DC dailies that many times (esp not the H map - which is the map that requires especially 2 cc-ed archers) anyway....

[kayfabe]

Valerie over Yuyu is legit if he can't get a Pallis first, I'll admit, not sure why I said that. Soma before Belinda is precisely to make DC farming more accessible, since Spica access is a moderately high priority.

That, and you only get 1 guaranteed Pallis anyway. He's annoying to bond but like I said, it's hard to be picky about your AOE damage on a young account.

[IvanLedah21]

@Lolix: good point, except due to the discrepancy between Charisma and Stamina usage on Spirit Rescue and Crystal Keeper dailies, you can still get a couple story maps in on those days even if you do the dailies (assuming no Stamina refills with SC). Crystal Keeper H IIRC is 60 Charisma and 6 Stamina which is 3 and 6 hours of regeneration respectively. That's 60 charisma you can use on story maps per CK H run. Will he raise his witch slower that way? Absolutely. Is it worth it? I personally value Spica enough for it since I don't value witches that highly until the later story and daily maps which he's not ready for (considering he can clear up to War of Magic with non-CC Yuyu/Belinda and maybe a few other units in Phalanx 2, witches shouldn't be THAT high priority yet)

@Kayfabe: I don't even bother raising Trust on males I don't intend to AW. Their bases are naturally higher due to being much harder to raise Trust, plus the bonuses are much smaller than Affection bonuses. That said, it is indeed hard to be picky about the AOE damage on new accounts, so if he wants to raise and CC Valerie earlier than even the Duelist, he's welcome to do that, and it's not a bad idea.

[kayfabe]

I liquored him up but then again, that was back when the only reliable alternative to Val was throwing your DC at Cyrus and running into the same problem anyway. It would have taken 10+ months for the free stamp card booze to get the job done.