edelweiss revival event [Archive]

Wutan

11-10-2016, 06:06 AM

thx to ashe from discord we got this to help everyone^^

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232270893391282176/246255854079180800/unknown.png

ah yes forgot to say "welcome to the rng hell" ^^

Thanks friend :)

E-2 is the way to go it seems or E-7 because there is no bloody RNG involved^^

Rupturez

11-10-2016, 06:08 AM

I only need like 2 inventory slots and skill ups on Edelweiss, if it's anything like the Lavender event I'll be done fast.

Ugh, I remember these maps. Cringeworthy RNG maps.

Balkri

11-10-2016, 07:15 AM

3450 stones for a full Edelweiss... lets the farming beginning! :D

moarsi

11-10-2016, 09:11 AM

I only need like 2 inventory slots and skill ups on Edelweiss, if it's anything like the Lavender event I'll be done fast.

Ugh, I remember these maps. Cringeworthy RNG maps.

Same here. I joined the game when Edelweiss's event was in it's second phase. I was low leveled and stuff and only managed to get an Edelweiss with lvl 3 skill and lvl 2 equipment. Good to know the reissued ones are compatible with the old girls too though, I really didn't want to grind out another Edelweiss

Aidoru

11-10-2016, 09:27 AM

Could someone upload the image on another host? Either it's because I don't have discord installed or the url is broken. Seems like the prior if someone else could see it.

Raine

11-10-2016, 09:29 AM

Could someone upload the image on another host? Either it's because I don't have discord installed or the url is broken. Seems like the prior if someone else could see it.

http://i.imgur.com/EhRurdK.png

Aidoru

11-10-2016, 09:38 AM

Thanks, appreciate it.

Rupturez

11-10-2016, 11:23 AM

lol the boss in the middle of e-4 nearly 1 shotted my Orchid Wydler, kind of strange considering this is a low map. It's the only hit he managed to make though.

http://tinyimg.io/i/InT0ADl.png

noheart09

11-10-2016, 11:35 AM

lol the boss in the middle of e-4 nearly 1 shotted my Orchid Wydler, kind of strange considering this is a low map. It's the only hit he managed to make though.

http://tinyimg.io/i/InT0ADl.png

boss skill: i noticed some bosses deal tons of dmg but when that happens i also hear the skill activation noise so thats how it is(imo).

Unregistered

11-10-2016, 12:56 PM

boss skill: i noticed some bosses deal tons of dmg but when that happens i also hear the skill activation noise so thats how it is(imo).

Some of the early event bosses have skills that hit for a percentage of your current health. Like 99% for the Lavender final boss, if I remember right.

Shurato

11-10-2016, 01:26 PM

If someone want to try 3 medals at ?-4 .

I used 4 slow squads without Lilac+Dipladenia.

1st-200
2nd-210
3rd-215
4th-235
helper- 421

Unregistered

11-10-2016, 02:00 PM

RNG Hell - oh shit. I'll try this mission after finishing the fireworks one. This time, I won't farm until I 3 star the last missions since they have Flower Gems. Stupid Lavender event had me running the very last map so many times that I had over 2,000 sealstones leftover just to get the Flower Gems.

https://65.media.tumblr.com/83ed4b47fb2aa1dcd6d1c87b8825d19f/tumblr_ogg2c4Ax5u1vg5ef8o1_1280.png

smr

11-11-2016, 01:51 AM

anyone else get an error message when they max out coins (~7800) on Phase 1 Map 4?

Anonymouse

11-11-2016, 03:47 PM

Any else able to buy five skillblooms instead of the usual four?

nazrin992

11-13-2016, 11:34 PM

Hmm, any advisable farming map before phase 2?

Wutan

11-14-2016, 12:09 AM

Hmm, any advisable farming map before phase 2?

E-2...2 Squads bottom and 3 Squads at the Top...

Cost: 15 Stamina / Revival Currency: 45

Zenithale

11-14-2016, 05:24 AM

That RNG... :mad:... I have spend enough Sta in E-4 to get Edelweiss and all Dress&Skill-Blooms she needs, but didn't 3* that last !§?*&@! map yet... :mad:

Dorei0sama

11-14-2016, 07:12 AM

That RNG... :mad:... I have spend enough Sta in E-4 to get Edelweiss and all Dress&Skill-Blooms she needs, but didn't 3* that last !§?*&@! map yet... :mad:

Just use one crappy unit and rely on one helper unit with 800+ speed.

Zenithale

11-14-2016, 09:34 AM

Just use one crappy unit and rely on one helper unit with 800+ speed.
Explanation? And why 800+ Speed? :confused:
In the best possible case = the Helper got all the right RNG nodes, you have only 25% chance with the top RNG Node since you have to walk on it at least 2 times to kill all Pests and Boss. That single Node makes you lost 75% of the time just by itself with only 1 Team. And knowing you have only 12.5% (1/8) to reach to middle Boss at each turn (if you are lucky to enter in the middle of course), every time you fail you have to walk again on the top RNG Node = 50% fail...

Dorei0sama

11-14-2016, 10:08 AM

Explanation? And why 800+ Speed? :confused:
In the best possible case = the Helper got all the right RNG nodes, you have only 25% chance with the top RNG Node since you have to walk on it at least 2 times to kill all Pests and Boss. That single Node makes you lost 75% of the time just by itself with only 1 Team. And knowing you have only 12.5% (1/8) to reach to middle Boss at each turn (if you are lucky to enter in the middle of course), every time you fail you have to walk again on the top RNG Node = 50% fail...

Because there are 2 nodes in short distance to go to mini boss, so you need to have a high speed team to pass those 2 (speedy team tends to go farer than normal team). I did one auto run after this, and my 700 speed unit accidentally land on the mini boss (on the same pattern) but chance is slimmer on 700 speed. I think the higher speed the higher chance to land on it. There are many nods so it's easier to manage with two team (one should have high speed other on should not be stronger than the boss in case it pass the upper nod). Fortunately, i have 2 allies with speedy helper team.

IvanLedah21

11-14-2016, 10:51 AM

Because there are 2 nodes in short distance to go to mini boss, so you need to have a high speed team to pass those 2 (speedy team tends to go farer than normal team). I did one auto run after this, and my 700 speed unit accidentally land on the mini boss (on the same pattern) but chance is slimmer on 700 speed. I think the higher speed the higher chance to land on it. There are many nods so it's easier to manage with two team (one should have high speed other on should not be stronger than the boss in case it pass the upper nod). Fortunately, i have 2 allies with speedy helper team.

Those spinning arrow nodes are purely random (known here as RNG nodes) in which direction they send your unit. Speed is irrelevant for those. Where Speed DOES matter is path length (think it's 10-3 where this is a HUGE issue) and sometimes triggering the fixed arrow nodes (where they switch directions every time you run over them, manipulating speeds so a specific squad goes down a certain path sometimes helps). The Halloween event favored ALL 5 squads having low speeds to maximize time spent on the map for event item farming, but that's a rare case.

Raine

11-14-2016, 10:54 PM

Completed ?-4 in 3 tries yesterday. I just modified my squads' speeds down to 300 and brought the slowest helper squad available and just rolled with it.

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Zenithale

11-15-2016, 07:49 AM

I have even played with 200 Speed Squads, but nothing can beat RNGod...

Dorei0sama

11-15-2016, 08:01 AM

I have even played with 200 Speed Squads, but nothing can beat RNGod...

That equal to Bippina speed.

IvanLedah21

11-15-2016, 08:11 AM

I use 4 teams + helper that are all in the 650-800 range. I use auto-run since I 3*'d it a while ago, but I'd say I get 3* about 1/5 times. I HIGHLY recommend if you're going for 3*, do NOT have people like Lilac and Dipladenia in your squads. Those spider webs at the top are there to buy you time if a squad goes toward the boss too early, you don't want your squads ignoring those.

hunter8

11-15-2016, 12:51 PM

Where is part 2 of the event?

Raine

11-15-2016, 01:00 PM

Where is part 2 of the event?

That will be out this Thursday.

nazrin992

11-17-2016, 09:55 AM

The RNG is strong with the 2nd phase.

Eab1990

11-17-2016, 10:04 AM

It was awful in the original, it'll be even worse now.

Raine

11-17-2016, 10:05 AM

I'll have an excuse to go for 3-medal attempts while collecting sealstones again. Intentionally stopped farming a bit.

nazrin992

11-17-2016, 10:09 AM

Yeah, with only one Gem in E-8.

Not worth it.

Eab1990

11-17-2016, 10:12 AM

I think 6-8 are fine. It's just E-5 that is somehow balls-to-the-wall hard.

nazrin992

11-17-2016, 10:17 AM

If you say so. I will give it a try to see if the stamina is worth for 1 gem.

Hmm, anyone got a bug in that the most expensive dress and skillblooms are still available even after you trade it already?

Unregistered

11-17-2016, 10:29 AM

Same here. I just trade for dressbloom for 500...and it was still available. However when I trade for lower cost dressbloom, it was disappeared. I guess it would a good time for people whom didn't get their 1st Edelweiss maxed out to get done now...before the system goes under maintenance and error gets fixed.

I managed to finish the last stage of 2nd phase pretty easily. Just make sure that you have 3 of fast team like 600-700 speed on top, 1 team of 400 in middle, and 1 team of 500 on bottom.

Zenithale

11-17-2016, 10:50 AM

I have already 2 full Edelweiss now, so there is no reason to farm this Event once again (especially after my Epic fail to 3* E-4...).

fate

11-17-2016, 05:24 PM

warning: you can buy the last skill bloom and dress bloom twice

Zenithale

11-17-2016, 06:15 PM

^Right, but they work as a Level 20 Manyu (or even better) if my memory serves me right, so that's not for nothing.

Unregistered

11-17-2016, 09:31 PM

Wow, the phase 2 stamina costs are pretty crazy... is edelweiss even worth it to run on some teams? I know she can hit 2 with her battleskill which isn't bad, but her abilities seem pretty... bleh

nazrin992

11-17-2016, 09:46 PM

She also has the ability to heal at Pest Nodes so it helps to get minor healing. She's the only one who have it unevolved.

fate

11-17-2016, 09:54 PM

And she also has 950 speed (700+50x5) unlike Dianthus or other that has ~500 speed which make her great for scout/ rush team

Unregistered

11-17-2016, 10:00 PM

She also has the ability to heal at Pest Nodes so it helps to get minor healing. She's the only one who have it unevolved.

Is the minor healing worth it though? It didn't look like much, but I'm still pretty new, so I can't tell, sorry

Raine

11-17-2016, 10:11 PM

Is the minor healing worth it though? It didn't look like much, but I'm still pretty new, so I can't tell, sorry

If you get to Campaign 12 maps, she's going to be very useful with nests at almost every path.

Drip

11-18-2016, 01:40 AM

If you get to Campaign 12 maps, she's going to be very useful with nests at almost every path.
Speaking of which.. Did you give my helper squad a spin on 12-5 yet? It *should* arrive at the final two bosses at nearly full health, thanks to those pest nodes. :D

Raine

11-18-2016, 02:37 AM

Speaking of which.. Did you give my helper squad a spin on 12-5 yet? It *should* arrive at the final two bosses at nearly full health, thanks to those pest nodes. :D

I usually run 12-5 when I'm around 2k exp away from leveling up, which I usually sync with manyu dailies (Wednesday/Sunday).

I'll give it a go by then. :D

Meister

11-18-2016, 06:11 AM

Odd... I see an extra skill/dressbloom for edelweiss from the revival shop.

Unregistered

11-18-2016, 06:22 AM

Odd... I see an extra skill/dressbloom for edelweiss from the revival shop.

Every re-issue will have extras. Some people might want dupes and didn't get everything the first time around.

nazrin992

11-18-2016, 06:33 AM

Every re-issue will have extras. Some people might want dupes and didn't get everything the first time around.
Didn't happen with Lavender though.

IvanLedah21

11-18-2016, 10:05 AM

And she also has 950 speed (700+50x5) unlike Dianthus or other that has ~500 speed which make her great for scout/ rush team

950 Speed? Where do you get this 50x5 extra? I figured it just averages the 5 girls' speed and then adds bonuses like Orchid/Alpinia to get Team Speed.

fate

11-18-2016, 10:40 AM

950 Speed? Where do you get this 50x5 extra? I figured it just averages the 5 girls' speed and then adds bonuses like Orchid/Alpinia to get Team Speed.

My bad. Her speed is only 515+50x5=765. 50x5 is how much her 2nd skill add to a squad of 5. I usually do that to sort speed (e.g Red Ranger is 700+150x5=1450, Onicidium is 635+100x5=1135)

IvanLedah21

11-18-2016, 12:23 PM

My bad. Her speed is only 515+50x5=765. 50x5 is how much her 2nd skill add to a squad of 5. I usually do that to sort speed (e.g Red Ranger is 700+150x5=1450, Onicidium is 635+100x5=1135)

OK so you're saying the "+50x5" is like adding 50 to each of the 5 girls, instead of averaging and then adding 50. Just a different (and perhaps more clear) way of showing how the girl buffs her team's speed.

Ancarius

11-18-2016, 02:59 PM

No, Squad Speed gets applied after the average of the girls in a squad is calcualated.

Ancarius

11-18-2016, 03:13 PM

flink

11-18-2016, 03:36 PM

Example Calculation:
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161118/rhojgvcw.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

515 + 430 + 555 + 675 + 345 = 2520

2520 divided by 5 = 504

504 + 50 Squad Speed from Edelweiss = 554 Total Squad Speed

765 is an "equivalent speed". If you replace Edel with a girl with 765 speed, you will get the same results (in a 5 girls squad) :

765 + 430 + 555 + 675 + 345 = 2770

2770 / 5 = 554 !

Drip

11-18-2016, 06:21 PM

Different solution, same result.

(a + b + c + d + e) / 5 + 50 == (a + b + c + d + e) / 5 + 250/5 == (a + b + c + d + e + 250) / 5

fate

11-19-2016, 12:12 AM

Example Calculation:
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161118/rhojgvcw.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

515 + 430 + 555 + 675 + 345 = 2520

2520 divided by 5 = 504

504 + 50 Squad Speed from Edelweiss = 554 Total Squad Speed

Well the only time that my formula is wrong is when your squad has less than 5 units, which kinda unusual anyway

IvanLedah21

11-19-2016, 11:46 AM

No, Squad Speed gets applied after the average of the girls in a squad is calcualated.

That's what I was saying, sorry if it wasn't clear.

sniddy

11-19-2016, 12:56 PM

Didn't happen with Lavender though.

Maybe some people raised the issue and they decided to add them, it's a good idea for people if they wanted to increase a main and still max out a dupe no reason not to let them

Myrdin

11-19-2016, 11:20 PM

Seeing as the current event is super grindfest once again, I´ll just gratefully accept my last dressbloom I needed for my 1st Edelweiss and wont bother going for a second one, like I did with Lavender - where I had the comfort of time to do so.

Kinda unfortunate as she could be used for Bloom materials once we get to that phase of the game - but I expect that wont happen a good year from now on, so no need to super stock my dupe girls for those materials yet.

mkrnova

11-20-2016, 04:09 AM

Dorei0sama

11-20-2016, 10:22 AM

sorry if this is a stuiped question but I lvl up the edelweiss they give you to lvl 8 but spent the 2000 point to buy a new 1 thinking maybe they will take the free 1 from you is that how it gose or am I going to have both of them at the end of the event again sorry if it is a stuiped question but first event I'm on here for and just wanted to know.

If you already have Edeweiss, spend Edelweiss sealstone to exchange skillbloom and dressbloom. Keeping both edelweiss because she have speed bonus. You not gonna lose any of the two.