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Tinkermane
12-03-2016, 11:49 AM
Thread title says it. I've manged to obtain the two plat Princesses that general consensus seems to state are fairly good-- Lilia the defensive oriented one, and Sherry the offensive oriented one. I myself have been using this duo (who I've been calling the Princess twins) almost constantly, especially once starting the desert maps. I have all of two other units that have CC'd, and the rest are kind of soft against the desert foes (those damn mummies hurt!). So I've been dropping down my two Princesses as soon as I can every map, plop Flamel down behind them as an emergency tank/healer and go to town. I guess my question is, is using two Princesses a waste of one of my slots and time? I don't seem to have any issues clearing desert maps for now, but kind of wanted to get the opinions of people who have been playing longer.

ZeroZet
12-03-2016, 12:21 PM
One of the beauties of this game is that there are many ways to play it. If your twin princess tactics works for you then roll with it!

Just be mindful of early rush maps, where relatively high cost of that combo might not allow to unleash it early enough to catch all, and remember that Princesses deal magic damage, so beware of high-MR enemies.)

Eab1990
12-04-2016, 09:15 AM
For starters, these princesses really shine best when AW'd. Since it sounds like you're not at that point yet, I'd advise you to focus on CC'ing your other units first.

As much as I love Lilia, you'll want to AW Sherry first, due to her "golden army" passive (boost all gold-rarity stats by 5%, and supposedly units below that rarity as well).

AW Lilia is a longer investment, particularly since she becomes godly with SAW. At AW though, she's a very respectable duelist, and her HP-regen passive can give her some leeway with letting her tank things without a dedicated healer for a short while.

kayfabe
12-04-2016, 11:29 AM
There's no reason to regret leveling both of them quite a bit although Awakening them both is a bit sketchy. A convenient thing about princesses is that unlike most other plats they don't require lighting 3 silver units on fire to reach max affection and the equivalent of 50cc70 stats. Thanks to her inherent tankiness Lilia in particular shines as a 2nd or 3rd string duelist that can help power you through the story maps and still make cameo appearances in maps like Golden Armor G even if you never bother to max her out.

AgentFakku
12-04-2016, 06:25 PM
2735

I have 2 princesses as well: Sherry and Themis. Gacha was weird. Had bad luck, but one day I had 2 princesses. The problem is that I couldn't really use them since I was underlvl. Later on, event maps were pretty tough.

I haven't AW anyone yet. I agree with the experienced players when you have them AW, they will make things easier.

lolix
12-04-2016, 08:00 PM
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I have 2 princesses as well: Sherry and Themis. Gacha was weird. Had bad luck, but one day I had 2 princesses. The problem is that I couldn't really use them since I was underlvl. Later on, event maps were pretty tough.

I haven't AW anyone yet. I agree with the experienced players when you have them AW, they will make things easier.

sherry is one of the best draws u could get , especially if a freemium. Themis....not that much. she's rather weak

Nero010
12-05-2016, 07:32 AM
sherry is one of the best draws u could get , especially if a freemium. Themis....not that much. she's rather weak

Themis can do the job if your new. I had her under my first pulls and was pretty happy to get a princess at all (as i realy loved that class and still like it). I leveled and used her (befor AW for princesses came out) and she managed me to beat caste retake and the likes. Her defence multiplier skill actualy was usefull at some maps to duel too hard hitting shit especialy since my best tank was leeanee. That she doesnt need to be cc´ed made her quickly stronger then other units as shes ways easier to level as a newb. I got sherry some time later rendering her useless as it would requier to AW her to keep somewhat usefull which is too much of an investment tbh.
Not too bad of a unit overall though. As long as u dont have a bunch of event units that fill her role better.

lolix
12-05-2016, 08:44 AM
i have themis as well. She is not that great even at max level. Her aw seems to make her a bit stronger , but i'd still not waste timewith her

IvanLedah21
12-05-2016, 10:13 AM
Themis' issue isn't that she's "weak" per se, the issue is her stats in relation to UP cost (she's stronger than Kerry, naturally, but Kerry's much cheaper). She's essentially a watered down Lilia which is decent for newbies but there are plenty of duelists that outclass her in strength/cost ratio.

Anyways, TC like ZeroZet said, the primary issue to be wary of with using two princesses is UP cost. You will likely want a cheaper duelist (Valkyrie or Bandit, perhaps) as an option if UP is tight. Those two total 42 UP together, which is not cheap.

In terms of Awakening further down the road, Sherry is first, easily. Any non-whale is going to love her buff to gold and silver units (and bronze/iron but bronze are highly situational and iron lol). Sherry is offensive in nature, Lilia is defensive, which you actually deploy in a slot will depend on which you need there and then.

In terms of leveling, make sure your core units (healers, archers, Leanne/Bernice/Gellius and Katie/Julian/Jerome/Zenobia) are leveled and CC'd first. Having high powered duelists isn't going to 3* maps for you if you don't have the rest of the team up to snuff. Post your owned units if you want some advice on leveling priorities.

Eab1990
12-05-2016, 10:28 AM
Lilia/Sherry are 20 UP each.

Meanwhile, I have mincost Themis at 16 UP and she's still pretty meh, unfortunately.

Claudia though, using her on Imelia's G map was a boon.

Ramazan
12-05-2016, 11:20 AM
Claudia though, using her on Imelia's G map was a boon.

Guess she'll also wreck dragons at anya's revival. But she's already good to have.

Eab1990
12-05-2016, 11:32 AM
Guess she'll also wreck dragons at anya's revival. But she's already good to have.

She's also entirely unnecessary for an event of this level.

I brought her for Imelia's event because of the lich king.

slyyr
12-05-2016, 06:52 PM
I use Imelia and Claudia as my primary duelists/lightning rods. I used to use Themis but these 2 (even if not mix costed) are just better. Congrats on having Sherry - I'd love to have her in my lineup.

kayfabe
12-06-2016, 01:28 AM
You will likely want a cheaper duelist (Valkyrie or Bandit, perhaps) as an option if UP is tight.

Eh, I honestly wouldn't worry about it for quite a while given that Princesses have mixed defenses like Valkyrie and can do well against armor like Bandits while the Prince himself develps into a more reliable cheap blocker than pre-SAW Cypria or any of the Silver rogues. Valk ramp can be pretty nice when the devs provide a conga line of goblins to munch on but for the most part there's few situations where maps demand a powerful one blocker AND princesses are obviously too expensive for the job.

Unregistered
12-06-2016, 04:45 PM
Themis' issue isn't that she's "weak" per se, the issue is her stats in relation to UP cost (she's stronger than Kerry, naturally, but Kerry's much cheaper). She's essentially a watered down Lilia which is decent for newbies but there are plenty of duelists that outclass her in strength/cost ratio.

Anyways, TC like ZeroZet said, the primary issue to be wary of with using two princesses is UP cost. You will likely want a cheaper duelist (Valkyrie or Bandit, perhaps) as an option if UP is tight. Those two total 42 UP together, which is not cheap.

In terms of Awakening further down the road, Sherry is first, easily. Any non-whale is going to love her buff to gold and silver units (and bronze/iron but bronze are highly situational and iron lol). Sherry is offensive in nature, Lilia is defensive, which you actually deploy in a slot will depend on which you need there and then.

In terms of leveling, make sure your core units (healers, archers, Leanne/Bernice/Gellius and Katie/Julian/Jerome/Zenobia) are leveled and CC'd first. Having high powered duelists isn't going to 3* maps for you if you don't have the rest of the team up to snuff. Post your owned units if you want some advice on leveling priorities.

I already had a previous post for leveling advice, and my core team is coming along nicely tbh. I've got a CC Misha who's filling my role as a quick duelist to get in there and delay for a bit-- her self heal is a god send if I have to drop her away from my core healers. This was mainly a thread I made just because I was curious if there was a point in bothering with Princesses or not.

I've got four of them now, thanks to this event. I just drew Olivie earlier today, and I don't see me being unable to get Anya. This game is quite literally tossing these Princesses to me and I have no clue what to do with them all!

IvanLedah21
12-07-2016, 08:58 AM
I already had a previous post for leveling advice, and my core team is coming along nicely tbh. I've got a CC Misha who's filling my role as a quick duelist to get in there and delay for a bit-- her self heal is a god send if I have to drop her away from my core healers. This was mainly a thread I made just because I was curious if there was a point in bothering with Princesses or not.

I've got four of them now, thanks to this event. I just drew Olivie earlier today, and I don't see me being unable to get Anya. This game is quite literally tossing these Princesses to me and I have no clue what to do with them all!

All the Plat+ Princesses are fully viable, but they excel at different things/on different teams. Sherry, as mentioned before, is a F2P's best friend since their teams will be mostly gold/silver/event plat and she buffs all gold and lower rarity units with AW, plus she's a great offensive duelist. Lilia is a super tough tank, while Olivie buffs elves (including dark) and dwarves, and I think a few others, and her skill lets her dodge physical attacks (100% rate at max skill level!) while she (being an elf) comes with higher Resistance than other princesses (though less HP as well). Claudia is more balanced with an anti-dragon bonus and Skill Awakening (whenever we get it) gives her true damage (instead of magical), while Sybilla is an engine of death (AW lets her attack at range during skill). Anya is a bit different being more expensive and coming with 2 blocks instead of 1 (higher stats to back that up, though).

TLDR: Which princesses you focus on depends on your team (which units benefit from Olivie/Sherry buffs and whether you need more defensive or offensive minded duelists)

Eab1990
12-07-2016, 09:17 AM
Lilia SAW will let her out-DPS the other princesses, last I checked.

I believe Olivie buffs Spica, Pupuru, Chydis, Marius, Yuyu, Rowanna, Rosalie, Lauren, Noel, and Gustav. And Atla, I guess, if you even use him. Probably some others we don't have yet.

Claudia's default skill has true damage too, not just her SAW.

kayfabe
12-07-2016, 11:56 AM
Post SAW Lilia can hit higher peak stats than the other princesses thanks to having very high multipliers but her base attack is behind the other plat princesses and she suffers from long initial and reuse timers. Overall Sybilla and Sherry tend to beat her out in overall dps if you deploy them properly--Sherry's SAW is a bit situational and trickier to use than the other Princess but the burst damage is stupid powerful when used to full effect while Sybilla's all-around stats and friendly timers makes her dead simple to use. Lilia's real strength is that she can ignore status effects and jack up her defenses enough to duel most heavy hitters whereas the others would often rather rather act as damage support. Olivie also does just fine since increased attack speed is always nice on a unit that ignores defense. Claudia has a ranged true damage niche but people sometimes fail to realize that her attack rate is considerably lower than the previously mentioned units.

IvanLedah21
12-07-2016, 01:05 PM
Post SAW Lilia can hit higher peak stats than the other princesses thanks to having very high multipliers but her base attack is behind the other plat princesses and she suffers from long initial and reuse timers. Overall Sybilla and Sherry tend to beat her out in overall dps if you deploy them properly--Sherry's SAW is a bit situational and trickier to use than the other Princess but the burst damage is stupid powerful when used to full effect while Sybilla's all-around stats and friendly timers makes her dead simple to use. Lilia's real strength is that she can ignore status effects and jack up her defenses enough to duel most heavy hitters whereas the others would often rather rather act as damage support. Olivie also does just fine since increased attack speed is always nice on a unit that ignores defense. Claudia has a ranged true damage niche but people sometimes fail to realize that her attack rate is considerably lower than the previously mentioned units.

Thanks for adding the impact of Skill AW, since we don't have that and I don't play on DMM I don't know much about the impact of the changes it brings.