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maotd
01-01-2023, 01:04 AM
Congrats. Cactus is a good one for sure. Having her for free at the start help a lot.
Myers> Okay thanks. With her out, that mean I got every gacha 5* :D
NBPEL
01-01-2023, 05:26 AM
Congrats. Cactus is a good one for sure. Having her for free at the start help a lot.
Myers> Okay thanks. With her out, that mean I got every gacha 5* :D
Thanks, I got to 80 and this one looks like a real stop and comeback later. Honestly I'm a fan of emity-like unit (Cygames term, low HP = stronger unit), does this type of unit exist in this game yet ?
And should I roll this 30FG banner ?
i.imgur.com/CImDUyG.png
maotd
01-01-2023, 07:03 AM
And should I roll this 30FG banner ?
Totally yes. That's the cheapest way to get 6*. It also gives a lot of Rainbow Shards for 6* promotion.
As I said, Snow Drop New Year may be the best choice here since she is not in the regular gacha. She may not be the best but she is the rarest.
Honestly I'm a fan of emity-like unit (Cygames term, low HP = stronger unit), does this type of unit exist in this game yet ?
There is girls with more HP = more damages but the only conterpart may be Dragon Tree (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Tree) (in a certain way). There is also some girls like this Wolf Berry (Wolf Berry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers)) who deacrese HP and increase power when below 50% HP. but I don't like them. On Castle, you want to stay at 100% HP. On the other stages, you want to be above 100% HP with HP retain because bosses hit too hard.
They may just be hard to play but I don't think this kind of girl is really strong anyway.
Dragon Tree looks cool anyway.
NBPEL
01-05-2023, 12:55 AM
Totally yes. That's the cheapest way to get 6*. It also gives a lot of Rainbow Shards for 6* promotion.
As I said, Snow Drop New Year may be the best choice here since she is not in the regular gacha. She may not be the best but she is the rarest.
Yeah, sadly my luck has been pretty mediocre in recent summons, instead of getting 6* units I keep getting 6* flower memories, I don't know if getting 6* flower memories will be something big but so far they give very small stat boost and weak ability.
Just want to ask your opinion about another unit, in my friendlist there's some high level players with Pavonia as their helper and so far I feel like their helpers are the strongest because she deals a lot of damage, whatever she's gonna hit will melt, I feel like she's kinda broken ?
flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Pavonia
wikiwiki.jp/flower2ch/パボニア
I read her kit and she looks like a very selfish DPS, but this level of selfish-ness seems good ?
And Corbett (Colvette) too:
flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Corbett
wikiwiki.jp/flower2ch/コルベット
maotd
01-05-2023, 01:29 AM
Flower memories (especially 6* memories) are great. The small stat boost is still a welcome boost (I think it's affected by ability stat buff unlike equipement boost) and the additional ability is awesome. It may seems weak but think it as an ability you can put on every girl to customise her. With 5 memories per team, you can get pretty broken stuff. Like, I really recommend using five fully unlock "rainbox pot" silver memories. It gives +15 ATK for a 300% solar attack. It's easy to get and gives a solid +75% ATK for everyone once you used your sun.
Flower memories are pretty underestimated but really start to be good when you can get fully unlocked 6* memories. 5* are mostly not good and 4* are trash.
Pavonia is really great but I think she is a bit too frail for really hard bosses. I tried her but didn't perform better than some others (or maybe full offense is not really my style). But for the regular stuff, I like her.
She really shines on the "test your strengh" part of raid boss events with good team mates. You can reach stupid amounts of trillions damages. It's totally useless and overkill though but it's very satisfying.
But you can only get her with 300 Rainbow Medals when dhe is available in the shop. She was added on September 20. Who know's when she will came back. On the good side, it will let you build up Rainbow Medals.
I didn't get Pavonia on the event, but plan to on the reprint which will be awhile. She'd be fun to play with.
Dracaena should be coming soon though and I really want her.
I don't want Bamboo unless she's free. Corbett definitely want and she should be available in a couple months.
NBPEL
01-10-2023, 06:54 PM
This is event map is quite hard, I have no idea how to beat it atm, my main team with Debrobium just can't bruteforce through it and even worse, there's 2 paths so I need at least 2 strong teams to be able to full clear it.
i.imgur.com/Qy9YjAa.png
What is the best way for me to get stronger and enough to clear this map ?
And I want to unlock the last 5 rows of this event game, what do I need to do to be able to ?
i.imgur.com/ZmeBEgw.png
Tomitain
01-11-2023, 06:57 AM
And I want to unlock the last 5 rows of this event game, what do I need to do to be able to ?
The last five spaces don't unlock until the second half of the event, usually a week after the event starts, at which point you'll be able to unlock them the same way you unlocked the first ten.
maotd
01-11-2023, 11:18 AM
Thoses new daily stages are hard for sure. I think it fall in the hard stages class for high level players.
The best way to beat them is having a lot of rainbows with full ampule, over level 80 and max affection. Dendrobium can handle one path with enough crit support and a Pierce bonus (Kugaisou is good for that). But she will fail on the last boss. You need bigger guns.
I use thoses teams:
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Note that they are my heavy nuker teams and I still need 3 turns to beat the boss.
I think you need three things.
First, a Dendrobium team that allow her to one shot all the basic pests. And use the bests girls at the end of the team since the last boss has negate damages (it's always better to put your weak damage girls on the firsts slots and keep the big shots for the lasts for this reason). this team should clear his row and chip the boss.
Second, a team in the same way, able to clear the other path with Blue+Yellow damages. any girl with provoke+special evasion help for the first pests if you can't beat it in one turn. But in any case, you want to brute force this. Long fights are not good for daily missions.
Third, you need something srtong enough to survive the boss first attack other than Adlay. A lot of negate damages or maybe a lot of good ATK debuff...
This Pinkladies (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Pinkladies_(Flower_Saint_Who_Talks_About_Dreams)) is also really good as turn 1 nucker after 6* promotion (as long as you gives her Blue and Yellow damages).
I think thoses new stages are just a tiny bit way to hard for what it is. It just gives you a chance to get a few ultra rare Aqua Crystrals. Such limited stages should be more accessible to every players.
Edit:
Actually, "how to beat this new daily stage" is an interesting question. It's really easy because I use broken Adlay and the final boss can't even scratch me but I quickly tried other stuff and it's not as easy as it seems.
I guess the best way is combining Negate damages+guaranteed Guts (there is a lot recently)+Retain HP to survive firsts attacks and then use powerful attacks. Suicid-counter team can be interesting for chip damages but it must come on a cleared path.
In any case, I don't see a way to trick it and win with a new player team. Even with a full 6* team, it's hard to beat it if you don't think a bit (and have some specific girls).
I'll try a bit more when the stage will be available.
NBPEL
01-12-2023, 02:10 AM
Actually, "how to beat this new daily stage" is an interesting question. It's really easy because I use broken Adlay and the final boss can't even scratch me but I quickly tried other stuff and it's not as easy as it seems.
I saw a lot of Adlay from some Youtube videos of Japanese players, I guess she's just that broken, her, Corbett and Pavonia are 3 units I see a lot from them.
Guess she'll be my must have unit in the near future.
This stage is really hard I think, my Debrobium team managed to kill some mobs, but nowhere strong enough to kill the final boss, maybe it's possible if I find something really broken like broken flower memories or broken 5* units.
maotd
01-12-2023, 10:49 AM
Adlay is that broken. She is the best healer and the best defensive unit. I don't have Corbett but she is on my wish list. Zinnia is way too broken too. But more useful on longer fights.
The main issue with Adlay is that she was a limited gacha girl. She is not included in the regular pool and her re-gacha already occured months ago. Who knows when she will came back. But certainly not before some months. And that's a real problem.
I don't think there is memories broken enough to beat the boss. And I'm pretty sure no 5* can help here (unless they are promoted to 6* but there is still only few of them). Even most regular 6* can't help at all. 6* equipment with Winter Rose Garden typing could help a bit. But promoting an equipment to 6* level cost a lot of Aqua Crystals. And I'm not sure the bonus is that good.
Anyway, this stage will last for less than two weeks and another will take is place, certainly with different pests typing and maybe with different mechanics. I'm not even sure tryhard this is worth the effort beside the satisfaction of beating it.
It's clearly engame level.
Edit:
Okay, Adlay is even more broken that I thought.
Anyway, Intercept team with Golden Lace (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Lace) works perfectly. The boss can't kill you if it can't hit you. She is "easily" available with 6* tickets or 300 R-medals. That's a high price for new players for sure. Hopefully, it works with Kerria and the previous event girl (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Crinum) is a good Intercept unit after 6* promotion (only after 6* promotion. Before she is trash tier for what you need here).
I think with Golden Lace, Kerria and Crinum (+ support girls for retains HP, crit & atk buff or any kind of negate damages) may do something. I'll try it.
Usagigoke (Swimsuit) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Usagigoke_(Swimsuit)) is extremly good too. The "Special Evade" each 4 turns helps a lot but she is not available in the R-medal shop.
Edit2:
I tried and I've done it with that team:
https://i.ibb.co/wRBj5FB/team.jpg
The hardest part is getting Golden Lace.
It took forever but it worked well. Kerria is full ampule, full high ampule and level 120. I think it makes a huge difference compared to a regular lvl80 Kerria. If you have other Evade/Intercept girls to use instead of Red Ginger, it's good.
With that team you needs two things.
- A way to clear the other path. You can use Angelica Swimsuit instead of Kugaisou with Dendrobium. I she can reach the boss, you've done half the job.
- Something to weaken the first Ant trio as muc as possible for Kerria's team. They can win but the ants hit hard and even with defend, healing and evade, I had to use guts a lot. You don't want it and you want to clear this as fast as possible.
Note that all of this is only possible with Golden Lace and Crinum. You need her Miss debuff and you need Crinum healing. A lot.
I promoted Crinum just for that test. That's what I call dedication to team build reseach. But she is a great addition to my Intercept teams. Maybe as good as Juneberry actually.
NBPEL
01-12-2023, 09:11 PM
Thanks for testing, I think for now I'll let it go because I don't really have enough resource to make any lv120 unit atm (no rainbow Centy) and I'm still far away from getting Golden Lace from the last 6* ticket, as a new player I think my next goal is to get as many broken units as possible, and pick the best temporary 5*s then evolve them to 6* to make a decent 2nd team comp, currently my Debrobium comp is like 10x stronger than my 2nd team so I need to improve my 2nd team too just in case challenge maps like this 800k one that require 2 strong teams to be able to full clear.
And that 4* Rainbow Pot flower memory seems really good, I will probably try to max out some of mine.
maotd
01-12-2023, 11:49 PM
Good luck for building your team. A good source of R-medals (for Centies and old 6*) is Danchou Tickets. You can get them with luck on gogo daily roulette, for 100 D-medals in the shop or after the 3rd and 7th roll on event gachas. The 3rd gacha D-ticket is the easier to get. It may be wise to look for extra ressources in the gacha (Danchou tickets, Rainbow shards, etc.) more than actual 6* from this gacha.
Take your time to build a second, third and fourth team. Getting to the end too fast is not fun :/
I still recommand one evade+intercept team somewhere. It makes really long fights but nothing can beat it (as long as it don't have accuracy buff or way too much HP).
Rainbow Pot memory is better than most of 5* memories for long fights or for Castle. It's really easy to get, to max and gives a nice +75% ATK for all with five of them fully unlocked.
NBPEL
01-13-2023, 03:39 AM
Good luck for building your team. A good source of R-medals (for Centies and old 6*) is Danchou Tickets. You can get them with luck on gogo daily roulette, for 100 D-medals in the shop or after the 3rd and 7th roll on event gachas. The 3rd gacha D-ticket is the easier to get. It may be wise to look for extra ressources in the gacha (Danchou tickets, Rainbow shards, etc.) more than actual 6* from this gacha.
Take your time to build a second, third and fourth team. Getting to the end too fast is not fun :/
I still recommand one evade+intercept team somewhere. It makes really long fights but nothing can beat it (as long as it don't have accuracy buff or way too much HP).
Rainbow Pot memory is better than most of 5* memories for long fights or for Castle. It's really easy to get, to max and gives a nice +75% ATK for all with five of them fully unlocked.
I'm think about a good 5* for Golden Lace's replacement, currently I found this gem:
flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Jack-in-the-pulpit
Somehow, she looks really good to me with 60% Hit Down, 80% Shield, Skill Activation and Crit Buff ?
And Water Speedwell (for Atk Down):
flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Water_Speedwell
So for a good intercept comp, do I need to ensure that my support units need to be alive or do I just need to care about my main attacker ? I think I do then I definitely need to improve this team with a healer, probably the last event girl will be the 3rd. So this is my draft team:
- Kerria
- Water Speedwell (can max her out easily)
- Jack in the Pulpit
- Crinium
- Blank slot (need someone in this slot, probably a DPS like Ume or a support like Swimsuit Angelica ?)
I think I do need more Atk Down to survive, currently this comp give only 30% Atk Down, a Swimsuit Angelica push it up to 50%
maotd
01-13-2023, 12:06 PM
Jack in the Pulpit may be interesting. I don't know if it will be enough but it may works. Water Speedwell may be useful too but you will hit hard the Hit rate debuff limit (caped at -70%). Not a bad debuff though. May worth the RG.
All the good ATK debuff are pure 6* sadly. I think you won't find promoted 5* with more than -30% ATK.
You may need some healing too. Or even better, a third evade girl (+ intercept). Vanda (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Vanda) is interesrting if you can put your hand on her.
Sadly, most of the old 5* are bad due to not being reworked to fit the new game style. Most of the evade 5* still have that poor 80% evade first two turns and then 50%.
If you could gives a list of your 6* and 5*, it may help. Sometimes, there are hidden gems. Meh girls that really shines in a very specific combinaison.
NBPEL
01-17-2023, 12:43 AM
Jack in the Pulpit may be interesting. I don't know if it will be enough but it may works. Water Speedwell may be useful too but you will hit hard the Hit rate debuff limit (caped at -70%). Not a bad debuff though. May worth the RG.
All the good ATK debuff are pure 6* sadly. I think you won't find promoted 5* with more than -30% ATK.
You may need some healing too. Or even better, a third evade girl (+ intercept). Vanda is interesrting if you can put your hand on her.
Sadly, most of the old 5* are bad due to not being reworked to fit the new game style. Most of the evade 5* still have that poor 80% evade first two turns and then 50%.
If you could gives a list of your 6* and 5*, it may help. Sometimes, there are hidden gems. Meh girls that really shines in a very specific combinaison.
Yeah, I'll post my list after rolling 1 more time, currently my list doesn't have anything worth noticing, really need to pull gacha to get the next power spike.
I just want to ask another question about daily activities, assuming that I've already cleared all story missions, extra maps, what should I do daily to get the most out of my stamina (and raid point) ?
And somehow people always kill raid boss so fast, I couldn't even get the most out of rare bosses because people just kill them before I can attack.
maotd
01-17-2023, 11:25 AM
I think the Ampule dungeon is the best choice. You always want ampule (unless you litteraly swim in them). It's an easy and cheap way to boost your girls. Or you can farm main sorty mission with exp bonus to quickly level up and increase your stamina.
Then, Memory dungeons that gives petite oath heart are great.
For raid bosses, yeah. It's a bit of an issue. Just use one low level 2* or 3* to poke them. It will reduce loading time and combat time. Someone else will get the kill anyway. That faster you end the fight, the more chance you have to get another good one. Also, avoid raid bosses shared by friends. Some share them to friends only and no kill them.
Raid bosses out of raid bosses events are not worth it anyway. Low tier equipement seeds are beginners traps. Mid tier seeds are trash, high tier seeds are worth only for the abysmal chance of getting an EX ring (not even that worth it now). Only the new bosses with high tier seeds and low chance of aqua fragment deserve attention. But aqua fragment drop too rarely to make it significant.
Just focus on event equipements and don't take thoses raid bosses too seriously.
NBPEL
01-17-2023, 12:04 PM
I think the Ampule dungeon is the best choice. You always want ampule (unless you litteraly swim in them). It's an easy and cheap way to boost your girls. Or you can farm main sorty mission with exp bonus to quickly level up and increase your stamina.
Then, Memory dungeons that gives petite oath heart are great.
For raid bosses, yeah. It's a bit of an issue. Just use one low level 2* or 3* to poke them. It will reduce loading time and combat time. Someone else will get the kill anyway. That faster you end the fight, the more chance you have to get another good one. Also, avoid raid bosses shared by friends. Some share them to friends only and no kill them.
Raid bosses out of raid bosses events are not worth it anyway. Low tier equipement seeds are beginners traps. Mid tier seeds are trash, high tier seeds are worth only for the abysmal chance of getting an EX ring (not even that worth it now). Only the new bosses with high tier seeds and low chance of aqua fragment deserve attention. But aqua fragment drop too rarely to make it significant.
Just focus on event equipements and don't take thoses raid bosses too seriously.
Yeah, I see, good thing I've never killed a raid boss and always poke them with my weakest unit. I kinda miss last event, rewards from raid bosses are pretty good with rainbow upgrade item. The current farming event is pretty chill, I dunno if the reward is good enough.
And I just got Dusty_Miller_(Parallel_Academy), and from reading her kit, I feel like she's a good unit for long battles with somewhat decent to good scaling (crit damage boost and boss damage boost per x3 crits), and I'm building a intercept team so I think I may give her all my ampules to make her strong ? I'm a bit worry about anti-crit debuffs tho, her kit is 70% crit.
flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dusty_Miller_(Parallel_Academy)
maotd
01-17-2023, 01:10 PM
Killing raid bosses gives nothing more. That's why anyone can get the best rewards from the strongests raid bosses no matter their level.
Event have pretty consistent rewards. Some are a bit better than others but not that much. Only recently, somes are really better since they offer a lot of 6* aqua fragment for turning them into aqua crystals. But they are very rare.
Dusty Miller (Parallel Academy) looks nice. Good crit buffs but yes, she is so weak to enemies immune to crit. You just have to not use her on crit immune enemies ;). It's like intercept teams. They are awesome but are useless on enemies with high precision buffs.
I wouldn't gives her ampule. I think it's better to give them to offensive or defensive girls rather than support girls. But I may be wrong and I don't want to give you bad advices.
Also, another girl you must get promoted to 6* is the event 5* Rainbow Rose. She was ultimate top tier in her golden age. She was killed by power creep and great ability rework among many others but she is still one of the best promoted 5* and really cheep to get.
NBPEL
01-19-2023, 03:44 AM
I'm upgrading my Rainbow Rose, she's at her 3rd stage now and Rainbow Growth Stone seems to be a wall for me atm, gotta roll gacha to get more but I still feel like I need to wait for a good 300 FS banner before doing that, because I really need OP units like Corbett, Pavonia, Adlay, Zinnia... The current 300 FS banner doesn't look good to me I think and I don't have a lot of FS, I'm not sure if 300 FS banners are common or rare ?
maotd
01-19-2023, 04:54 AM
Right now it's Bamboo turn to be in the ancient flower knight re-gacha. Corbett will be in the next (cost 5oo FS though, not 3oo). She will be there before spring I guess. Adlay and Zinnia may never came again. Or at least, not before a little while.
Pavonia is only available in the Rainbow Medal shop for 300 of them. Here again, just wait and see. And pray to see her comming soon. But I think she will show in the second half of the year. Maybe even after summer.
3oo FS gacha are not really rare or common. They are mainly available for special holidays like Chirstmas, Summer (with Swimsuits), etc. The guaranteed next one will be for Valentine event with Valentine girls. Then, we should have Easter on... easter, Brides in June, several Swimsuit across Summer, Halloween, several popularity contests winners, Christmas and New Year again.
Random 3oo gacha may appears out of nowhere like the recent Cattleya house one but thoses are much rare and imprevisibles.
But things may change at anytime depending on devs and marketing team will.
NBPEL
01-20-2023, 04:07 AM
Right now it's Bamboo turn to be in the ancient flower knight re-gacha. Corbett will be in the next (cost 5oo FS though, not 3oo). She will be there before spring I guess. Adlay and Zinnia may never came again. Or at least, not before a little while.
Pavonia is only available in the Rainbow Medal shop for 300 of them. Here again, just wait and see. And pray to see her comming soon. But I think she will show in the second half of the year. Maybe even after summer.
3oo FS gacha are not really rare or common. They are mainly available for special holidays like Chirstmas, Summer (with Swimsuits), etc. The guaranteed next one will be for Valentine event with Valentine girls. Then, we should have Easter on... easter, Brides in June, several Swimsuit across Summer, Halloween, several popularity contests winners, Christmas and New Year again.
Random 3oo gacha may appears out of nowhere like the recent Cattleya house one but thoses are much rare and imprevisibles.
But things may change at anytime depending on devs and marketing team will.
This is my flower girls and my current economy situation, hopefully with your advice I might be able to find some hidden gems, my luck has been pretty meh in this game I think, in my past gachas my luck was better :D
https://i.imgur.com/GN9DW2R.png
https://i.imgur.com/LXQyLgM.png
https://i.imgur.com/pwn1Tfi.png
https://i.imgur.com/sIV62dx.png
https://i.imgur.com/wWUN4wv.png
https://i.imgur.com/FFalwCg.png
https://i.imgur.com/H8tu1iJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/6LUmt5c.png
https://i.imgur.com/LDje783.png
I don't own this girl but somehow she's in my obtained list ? :D
https://i.imgur.com/XD9m7AE.png
maotd
01-20-2023, 02:13 PM
Okay, that's interesting. As you already said, Jack-in-the-pulpit (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Jack-in-the-pulpit) and Water Speedwell (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Water_Speedwell) are totally okay. Rainbow Rose (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Rainbow_Rose) and Crinum (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Crinum) are to notch too.
•East Asian Eurya (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/East_Asian_Eurya) is interesting as very specific Magic user support. I could recommand but later.
•Adenium (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Adenium) was solid in the past but she suffer from being an evade girl pre-rework (like 99% of 5* evade girls...). Still not that bad.
•Butterfly Bush (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Butterfly_Bush) is decent too. Not awesome but better than nothing.
•Tiger's Claw (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Tiger%27s_Claw) is an okay support, even as 5*.
•Harujion (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Harujion) is kinda meh but she may be a choice if you want speed. Crit buff is still good though.
•Spring Star (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Spring_Star) too for the crit. But it's better to wait her school version reprint event. She was an event 6* and she is just awesome. I guess she will be available in the reprint event girl shop for a lot of reprint crystals. She should be here in two weeks.
•Four O'Clock (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Four_O%27Clock) and China Root (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/China_Root) if you want counter+crit. Counter is awesome mid game when nothing can kill you but fail later when anything hit like trucks with tons of HP. Stupid power creep to the moon :(
•Syngonium (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Syngonium) help too for a counter team with her great def buffs.
•Spider Lily (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Spider_Lily) is great. Disgusting 60%crit dmg (second highest crit dmg for 5 behind Bluet if I'm correct) and usable debuff. She really lacks atk buff though.
•Pinkladies (Princess of Pure Flower) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Pinkladies_(Princess_of_Pure_Flower)) Good but the weakest Pinkladies version I guess. Flower Saint is way better.
•Dragon Tree (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Tree) is high risk high reward. I don't think she is that great but Combo Hit is a thing and may get a lot of kill if you gives her enough power.
•Statice (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Statice). Never played her but I know some people liked her as support.
•Manchineel (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Manchineel) is an intercept girl and one of the few 5* with actual evasion post rework. No reason to not use her in your evade team before getting more actual 6*.
•Blushing Bride (Costumed Apprentice Teacher) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Blushing_Bride_(Costumed_Apprentice_Teacher)) is a decent support with Crit+Negate damages
•And Artichoke (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Artichoke) can be a good attacker.
I didn't checked all the girls. Only the ones I know they are or were at least decent. I could have missed some things. All of thoses won't change your team to make it awesomly strong. That's the job of pure 6* and only a handful of promoted 5* have insane potential. But decent promoted 5* is better than just nothing.
Having 12 rainbows at your point is not bad at all. I got my first rainbow after almost 6 months. The game was less hard and we didn't have any free 6* though. And a really unfair gacha (basically the salt ticket gacha but with FS).
At the end, you did not the 3oo FS new year gacha? Or did you forget about the free 6* ticket in the warehouse?
https://i.imgur.com/XD9m7AE.png
This is just a Ghost Weed skin. And it's a free one. You already have Ghost Weed (Princess of Pure Flower) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_Weed_(Princess_of_Pure_Flower)). You can use it on her (click the shoe icon on girls profile to change their skin). I think regular Ghost Weed (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_Weed) is the weakest of them (useless out of Solar Teams and there is better Solar Girls anyway).
NBPEL
01-20-2023, 03:26 PM
Okay, that's interesting. As you already said, Jack-in-the-pulpit (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Jack-in-the-pulpit) and Water Speedwell (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Water_Speedwell) are totally okay. Rainbow Rose (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Rainbow_Rose) and Crinum (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Crinum) are to notch too.
•East Asian Eurya (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/East_Asian_Eurya) is interesting as very specific Magic user support. I could recommand but later.
•Adenium (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Adenium) was solid in the past but she suffer from being an evade girl pre-rework (like 99% of 5* evade girls...). Still not that bad.
•Butterfly Bush (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Butterfly_Bush) is decent too. Not awesome but better than nothing.
•Tiger's Claw (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Tiger%27s_Claw) is an okay support, even as 5*.
•Harujion (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Harujion) is kinda meh but she may be a choice if you want speed. Crit buff is still good though.
•Spring Star (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Spring_Star) too for the crit. But it's better to wait her school version reprint event. She was an event 6* and she is just awesome. I guess she will be available in the reprint event girl shop for a lot of reprint crystals. She should be here in two weeks.
•Four O'Clock (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Four_O%27Clock) and China Root (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/China_Root) if you want counter+crit. Counter is awesome mid game when nothing can kill you but fail later when anything hit like trucks with tons of HP. Stupid power creep to the moon :(
•Syngonium (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Syngonium) help too for a counter team with her great def buffs.
•Spider Lily (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Spider_Lily) is great. Disgusting 60%crit dmg (second highest crit dmg for 5 behind Bluet if I'm correct) and usable debuff. She really lacks atk buff though.
•Pinkladies (Princess of Pure Flower) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Pinkladies_(Princess_of_Pure_Flower)) Good but the weakest Pinkladies version I guess. Flower Saint is way better.
•Dragon Tree (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Tree) is high risk high reward. I don't think she is that great but Combo Hit is a thing and may get a lot of kill if you gives her enough power.
•Statice (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Statice). Never played her but I know some people liked her as support.
•Manchineel (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Manchineel) is an intercept girl and one of the few 5* with actual evasion post rework. No reason to not use her in your evade team before getting more actual 6*.
•Blushing Bride (Costumed Apprentice Teacher) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Blushing_Bride_(Costumed_Apprentice_Teacher)) is a decent support with Crit+Negate damages
•And Artichoke (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Artichoke) can be a good attacker.
I didn't checked all the girls. Only the ones I know they are or were at least decent. I could have missed some things. All of thoses won't change your team to make it awesomly strong. That's the job of pure 6* and only a handful of promoted 5* have insane potential. But decent promoted 5* is better than just nothing.
Having 12 rainbows at your point is not bad at all. I got my first rainbow after almost 6 months. The game was less hard and we didn't have any free 6* though. And a really unfair gacha (basically the salt ticket gacha but with FS).
At the end, you did not the 3oo FS new year gacha? Or did you forget about the free 6* ticket in the warehouse?
This is just a Ghost Weed skin. And it's a free one. You already have Ghost Weed (Princess of Pure Flower) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_Weed_(Princess_of_Pure_Flower)). You can use it on her (click the shoe icon on girls profile to change their skin). I think regular Ghost Weed (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_Weed) is the weakest of them (useless out of Solar Teams and there is better Solar Girls anyway).
Thanks, I will definitely wait for the 6* event girl Spring Star, I didn't know that it's possible to get 6* from event, sounds really awesome, having 6* for free is really big for me because I'm lacking a lot of Rainbow Growth Stone to upgrade 5* to 6*, 6* is actually cheaper to upgrade than 5* for me, at least for now.
Manchineel is great too I will definitely upgrade her!
Dragon Tree is my liked playstyle, I may try to use her.
I kinda don't want to use more crit girls because I have a lot of crit girls in my main teams atm, really need to use something else to deal with anti-crit bosses. Crit is very strong in this game, I think because crit damage has no cap, but anti-crit debuff easily render them useless.
Yeah, in the end i skipped the 300 New Year gacha because I was busy doing story and depleting my stamina and raid point, because my level kept increasing so it took forever for me to reach 0 stamina. I bought 1 free 6* ticket from the ware and summoned Debrobium.
Until you get more girls you could RG Duranta (Easter). She gives 45% Crit rate and could free up Mei and Cactus from the Dendro team.
Could RG Liatris re-action on Mei and her with Cactus is a decent offense for a second team. Would still need to get crit to 80% though.
Also the gacha for Corbett should be mid March. You could just start thinking about a team to use her. I don't have her yet, but she looks pretty good.
maotd
01-21-2023, 01:33 AM
Thanks, I will definitely wait for the 6* event girl Spring Star, I didn't know that it's possible to get 6* from event, sounds really awesome, having 6* for free is really big for me because I'm lacking a lot of Rainbow Growth Stone to upgrade 5* to 6*, 6* is actually cheaper to upgrade than 5* for me, at least for now.
There is only two event 6*, from 2022 popularity contest winners events. We got Spring Star School (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Spring_Star_(Parallel_Academy)) and Honeysuckle School (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Japanese_Honeysuckle_(Parallel_Academy)). Both of them are great and worth to get. Above all, they wame with skill lvl5 and 4 equip slots.
Honeysuckle is a good attacker. Kind of weaker turn 1 Dendrobium but she remains usable on following turns.
Spring Star is just an amazing support.
I kinda don't want to use more crit girls because I have a lot of crit girls in my main teams atm, really need to use something else to deal with anti-crit bosses. Crit is very strong in this game, I think because crit damage has no cap, but anti-crit debuff easily render them useless.
Note that, if there is annoying crit debuff in one hand, we also have bosses with 50% damage reduction from non weak attack AND 50% damage reduction from non crit attack. Miss both of them and you end in a ridiculous situation where your bests girls deal one poor damage. Frustrating.
Also, always keep 100oo FS in your pockets. There is a special gacha for 100oo FS during Golden Week. It gives you a guaranteed 6* and let you reroll it has much as you want (you roll the gacha, pay 100oo to keep it or discard it and reroll). With enough patience, you can end with 3 or 4 rainbows for just 100oo. Or you can reroll it until you get girls you really want.
NBPEL
01-21-2023, 02:18 AM
There is only two event 6*, from 2022 popularity contest winners events. We got Spring Star School (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Spring_Star_(Parallel_Academy)) and Honeysuckle School (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Japanese_Honeysuckle_(Parallel_Academy)). Both of them are great and worth to get. Above all, they wame with skill lvl5 and 4 equip slots.
Honeysuckle is a good attacker. Kind of weaker turn 1 Dendrobium but she remains usable on following turns.
Spring Star is just an amazing support.
Note that, if there is annoying crit debuff in one hand, we also have bosses with 50% damage reduction from non weak attack AND 50% damage reduction from non crit attack. Miss both of them and you end in a ridiculous situation where your bests girls deal one poor damage. Frustrating.
Also, always keep 100oo FS in your pockets. There is a special gacha for 100oo FS during Golden Week. It gives you a guaranteed 6* and let you reroll it has much as you want (you roll the gacha, pay 100oo to keep it or discard it and reroll). With enough patience, you can end with 3 or 4 rainbows for just 100oo. Or you can reroll it until you get girls you really want.
Thanks for the very useful information, hopefully I'll be able to get Honeysuckle soon, having 2 Debrobium helps a lot, she demolished Whale's bosses and I'm abusing her Break damage to beat those bosses that are much stronger than me and that 10.000 FS gacha sounds exciting, will definitely keep it in mind, maybe I could get Pavonia, Corbett... all in one pull (a man can dream). :D
I checked event history and unfortunately I joined the game just after Doki Doki Flower School event, the event that gives Honeysuckle for free. This page is quite useful for me actually, easy to check event girls' usefulness and guides: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Event
maotd
01-21-2023, 03:01 AM
Corbett and Pavonia won't be included in the 100oo FG reroll gacha (at least, that's 100% sure for Pavonia. And it's 99% sure for Corbett but dev could change their minds at any time).
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I'm done with the new castle floors. Zinnia melt everything as expected. Not real troubles here. But for some reasons, I still have 800 memory seeds and 40 castle medals left in the warehouse. I did everything. I should be able to by everything...
maotd
01-23-2023, 02:01 AM
It's still before FKG anniversary so, I guess it's not too late. Time for the little end year (new year?) survey!
All the survey cover from event 181 (2022 new year event) to event 206 (2022 christmas event).
What was your favorite(s) totally new 5* (event and gacha since there is not that much new 5* anyway)?
What was your favorite(s) totally new 6* (gacha or R-medals shop or event)?
What was your favorite(s) new alternative form? (5* or 6* but all are 6* I guess)
What was your favorite(s) event?
What was your favorite(s) new features added in 2022?
What do you wish as new features, changes or everything for 2023?
You can get the template in the spoiler:
What was your favorite(s) totally new 5* (event and gacha since there is not that much new 5* anyway)?
What was your favorite(s) totally new 6* (gacha or R-medals shop or event)?
What was your favorite(s) new alternative form? (5* or 6* but all are 6* I guess)
What was your favorite(s) event?
What was your favorite(s) new features added in 2022?
What do you wish as new features, changes or everything for 2023?
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Here is mine.
What was your favorite(s) totally new 5* (event and gacha since there is not that much new 5* anyway)?
I'd say Armeria or Melampodium because they are cutes but I'll choose Tritoma because she is OP.
What was your favorite(s) totally new 6* (gacha or R-medals shop or event)?
I really like the design of the Ancient Flower Knights, especially Adlay and Zinnia. And I really love Luluna from GS collab. I'm glad they added her.
What was your favorite(s) new alternative form? (5* or 6* but all are 6* I guess)
There is so many of them and I don't have much so, Spring Star (Parallel Academy). Not my favorite for her look but she is amazing and I always liked her regular version. Now I can actually use her.
Special mention for Thunberg Spirea (Christmas) too. That's great to see a 2* getting an alternative version without winning a contest. May the future gives us more of low tier girls new forms.
What was your favorite(s) event?
All the events were pretty standard. I guess I liked the parallel academy events because it was somehow different.
What was your favorite(s) new features added in 2022?
I wish I could say the equipement promotion system but Aqua Crystal are still a pain to get. So, I'll say the new raid bosses with aqua fragment. It didn't fix the uselessness of the raid bosses but at least that raid boss list is no longer always empty.
What do you wish as new features, changes or everything for 2023?
I still want a rework of the old 5*. Most of them are still unplayable with their outdated abilities. But after all this time, I know it's just a sweet dream.
So, I hope they could do something for the insane gap of power between Ancient Flower Knights and all the others. I love them but they totally broke the game. It wouldn't be an issue if they were just OP but bosses and hard challenges seems to be scaled to their power level now. I don't even know how to beat this without Adlay wall or Zinnia steroids. I noticed it with the last floors of Castle. I almost always send the same team and brute force through hundreds of HP. It's satisfying but... meh. Seems a part of the fun is missing. I liked that time when we have to use random girls in wierd teams combinations to win. But now it seems like 90% of the girls just can't stand and take a hit or deal damages (unless they are lvl120 full high ampules 300% affection with promoted personnal equipment maybe).
No complaint here but a bit of regrets. Power creep has gow really far in 2022. We needs even more power creep to catch it. Or nerf the next bosses and let the broken OP Ancient Flowers in the past.
NBPEL
01-23-2023, 04:13 AM
I love current 8th anni, quality of raid lobbies increased by a lot!
And I got some tickets by farming stages from this event, what should I do with those tickets because it looks like I need to use my tickets to vote for my favorite unit ? Should I pick the winning one or just pick whoever I want to pick ? I want some good rewards tho :(
What was your favorite(s) totally new 5* (event and gacha since there is not that much new 5* anyway)?
I need more time to know who they're
What was your favorite(s) totally new 6* (gacha or R-medals shop or event)?
Probably Sakura (kind and mother-like) and Yamabuki (yamato nadeshiko)
What was your favorite(s) new alternative form? (5* or 6* but all are 6* I guess)
Probably 6*
What was your favorite(s) event?
So far I liked the farm event.
What was your favorite(s) new features added in 2022?
I don't know
What do you wish as new features, changes or everything for 2023?
I'm not sure
maotd
01-23-2023, 06:36 AM
I love current 8th anni, quality of raid lobbies increased by a lot!
That's just because there is a new story chapter and -30% stamina on story stages. It's always the same. And that's great.
And I got some tickets by farming stages from this event, what should I do with those tickets because it looks like I need to use my tickets to vote for my favorite unit ? Should I pick the winning one or just pick whoever I want to pick ? I want some good rewards tho
Just vote for whoever you like. It's pointless anyway. Anemone/Pinkladies/Silktree will win like every year since they came out. They have a huge fanclub of big whales with too much money.
You got rewards by earning tickets. 1 ticket per stamina used. And the winners will have another alternative form in november/december. Or something like that. It changes sometimes.
I just have to say that I hate devs because I'm saving gems for Corbett and they had to add a new Isogiku. Now i have to spend my precious gems when I finally got back over 1k.
NBPEL
01-23-2023, 08:42 AM
That's just because there is a new story chapter and -30% stamina on story stages. It's always the same. And that's great.
Just vote for whoever you like. It's pointless anyway. Anemone/Pinkladies/Silktree will win like every year since they came out. They have a huge fanclub of big whales with too much money.
You got rewards by earning tickets. 1 ticket per stamina used. And the winners will have another alternative form in november/december. Or something like that. It changes sometimes.
I just have to say that I hate devs because I'm saving gems for Corbett and they had to add a new Isogiku. Now i have to spend my precious gems when I finally got back over 1k.
If that's the case I'll vote for Sakura, I think her alts aren't game breaking at all or something.
But I doubt she stands a chance against other forces.
Tomitain
01-23-2023, 01:26 PM
Yeah, pretty much. There briefly was a FKG Hall of Fame where anyone in it was ineligible for getting a new version even if they finished in the top three of the popularity polls. If memory serves, Anemone and Pinkladies were the only members of the HoF because they had each finished in the top three of the popularity polls so often that the results were basically Anemone + Pinkladies + *a warm body* in random order for first/second/third place. In particular, Pinkladies had never finished outside of the top three since she was first added to the game and Anemone was almost as consistent with her worst finish at the time being sixth (2015). The 'ban' seemed to work on Pinkladies since she finished well outside of the top three. Anemone finished #4 though, showing just how much the whales love her.
Anyhow, last year the limitation was removed and the results were (mostly) predictable:
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maotd
01-23-2023, 03:28 PM
I think we should save a lot of gems for Bloss (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bloss). I don't know why but I feel like she wmay be important to get. Way too much abilities and way too much attention on her to be included in the regular gacha. It's hit or miss.
NBPEL
01-24-2023, 12:24 AM
I'll consider summoning for her if she's good, so far it looks like she has some healings and I do need a good healer like Adlay to cheese the game, I almost cleared the 800.000 challenge map yesterday, just a bit more but the infinite (for me) waves of bosses killed my little resistance (I lose HP and no way to heal back).
And it looks like girls with a hood are very OP in this game, we have Adlay, Zinnia, Corbett... All the girls in that 800.000 challenge map (but the true challenge is Centy and pals) :D
And I think I'm still a bit vague about ring/bracelet/... or equipment upgrading, should I upgrade silver rank or gold rank, most of my gold ranks are weaker than silver rank, can I upgrade gold rank to rainbow rank ? Should I upgrade personal equipment ? I just don't know what type of equipments are the best and cost effective to upgrade and use without wasting my money ?
And I got this Beyond recollection FM yesterday, from reading its description it looks like I finally got something really good, free attribute for 1-2 member(s), eventho it's not a team buff but weakness damage is pretty good from my experience: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000125
Allows the wearer (and up to 1 more party member) to hit the Blunt weakness attribute.
If the wearer is already Blunt-type, a random non-Blunt party member will be selected instead.
Does not stack with similar abilities.
Literally my luck, I don't know if I should be happy or sad anymore, it's all spent on FMs :( https://i.imgur.com/GHkSpaP.png
NBPEL
01-25-2023, 10:08 AM
Hi, I just got ソテツ (Sago Palm) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Sago_Palm), and I just checked her kit and I think she looks great or somehow even as good as some 6* (the difference between her and my other 5* are quite huge, most 5* units have 3 skills but she has 8), I think I should build her and hopefully she'll be able to help me crack that 8th anniversary challenge map with 850.000 power requirement (it's a fun challenge for me, like I was so close of beating it, so many times I thought I had it already but the last part was so evil, and the 727 gold reward seems to have some meanings ? I join late so I don't really understand though :D) :sweat:
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maotd
01-25-2023, 11:58 AM
I'm not a great fan of Sago Palm. She do what others do better but why not. She is good for a great blast turn 1 against bosses.
A girl desserving attention may be Bird's Foot Trefoil (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bird%27s_Foot_Trefoil). Her 7.5x intercept sounds nice. She lacks of evasion for sure but works in a hit rate debuff team. Hit rate debuff is capped lower than evasion (70% vs 90%) but she deals more damages. She could work in some scenarii.
The challenge map is fun. Hard enough to make it a challenge but way easier than the actual stages. I was affraid of another 1+ hour stage but no.
727 is a recurrent pun with Nazuna. Like the special quests on 2 and 27 of each months. Japaneses love puns like that. I let the others give more details. I don't want to misexplain it.
NBPEL
01-26-2023, 02:46 AM
I'm not a great fan of Sago Palm. She do what others do better but why not. She is good for a great blast turn 1 against bosses.
A girl desserving attention may be Bird's Foot Trefoil (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bird%27s_Foot_Trefoil). Her 7.5x intercept sounds nice. She lacks of evasion for sure but works in a hit rate debuff team. Hit rate debuff is capped lower than evasion (70% vs 90%) but she deals more damages. She could work in some scenarii.
The challenge map is fun. Hard enough to make it a challenge but way easier than the actual stages. I was affraid of another 1+ hour stage but no.
727 is a recurrent pun with Nazuna. Like the special quests on 2 and 27 of each months. Japaneses love puns like that. I let the others give more details. I don't want to misexplain it.
Bird's Foot Trefoil looks really great for a free event unit, 7.5x intercept modifier sounds tasty, I'm trying to get her and I actually thought that I grinded hard this event with a lot of free stamina from leveling up but actually not because I saw someone on Twitter showed a picture with 200k point day 1 of the event (isn't 200k points = 200k stamina, that player must be a whale or something), some players really do love their girls.
Yeah, I first thought about Sago Palm that way too, her kit is a bit average at everything, not straightforward crit machine or turn 1 machine (Debrobium), and the lack of AoE skill also hurts.
Up to some point I prob want more AoE units, for now most of my units are single target.
NBPEL
01-27-2023, 09:53 AM
So I just got Thunberg Spirea (Chrismas Version) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Thunberg_Spirea_(Christmas)), and just by looking at her skills (a mountain of skills) really makes me confused, heck she provides defensive, buffs, and then offensive, then debuff and then an AoE skill, pretty much everything but average at everything ? Hopefully this time I get a good unit.
I'm holding her level up because I want to know if she's good enough to use my precious (for a new player, currently I have about 150 each ampule) ampules or not ? Hope someone can let me know about her strength and value.
maotd
01-27-2023, 12:20 PM
She seems pretty decent. Not perfect but she has usable stuff. The 3 negate damages turn 1 is interesting. There is enemies with huge damages turn 1. I guess she can be a nice offensive-support. Not a bad one. Mixed girls are an interesting category. Hard to use but they can bring some interesting ability easily and change how a team work.
For the ampules, I don't know. If you're not sure, you can just level up and use ampules on her later. It's not a limited ressource and you can get them easily in many ways. You will have more than you can use at some point. If you don't know, you can use amplues/high ampules even on a max level girl. It will just be extra expensive but who's care? You will get more gold than you could ever use anyway.
I like to keep ressources for when it's worth. It help sometimes but I keep a huge pile of unused stuff that will maybe stay forever.
Or you could use everthing right now and maybe regret it later when you really want it but don't have it anymore.
NBPEL
01-27-2023, 12:39 PM
She seems pretty decent. Not perfect but she has usable stuff. The 3 negate damages turn 1 is interesting. There is enemies with huge damages turn 1. I guess she can be a nice offensive-support. Not a bad one. Mixed girls are an interesting category. Hard to use but they can bring some interesting ability easily and change how a team work.
For the ampules, I don't know. If you're not sure, you can just level up and use ampules on her later. It's not a limited ressource and you can get them easily in many ways. You will have more than you can use at some point. If you don't know, you can use amplues/high ampules even on a max level girl. It will just be extra expensive but who's care? You will get more gold than you could ever use anyway.
I like to keep ressources for when it's worth. It help sometimes but I keep a huge pile of unused stuff that will maybe stay forever.
Or you could use everthing right now and maybe regret it later when you really want it but don't have it anymore.
I see, at first I thought her turn 1 x3 Negate Damages was a bit disappointing because it's so situational, but it still has its use I guess. One good thing about her is that she doesn't rely on crit, which is something I really need to counter anti-crit debuff bosses.
Yeah, I read a few comments about min-maxing for new players and I found that using ampules on lv1 girls will save me some money but to think about that, those comments were from years ago, and the game changed a lot since then. About ampules, I was a bit careful because I did a few training runs for ampule and I usually get 3x gold ampules per run, I think that amount per run is pretty low and stamina costly, my gacha 6th sense tells me to min-max the usage them, at least for my early stage.
maotd
01-27-2023, 01:32 PM
You can get up to 7 ampule of one type on the world exploration and 6 exploration per day. With enough luck it's almost one set of each ampule per week. With all the others source of ampule, it's easy to get them. Same for gold. It's 150k free each day plus all the other incomes. I'm pretty sure you can get them back before your next 6* (onay mabe not if you're doing the 30FG gacha).
At the begining, it's hard because you have a lot of girls/equipmement/memories to level up. But soon the amount of things to level up will decrease and gold will increase (more stamina, more missions, more gold). Same for ampules. You got way more ampule that rainbows (unless you're super lucky or you're whaleing).
Back in the good old days, there was a lot of daily missions. Some of them where "gives level up stuff 4 to girls 4 times", "gives 4 gifts", "roll the regular 2*~4* gacha 10 times", etc. It's gone a long time ago but I still stick (somehow) to this. I limit my gifts/level up/ect each day, unless I'm aiming a precise rainbow for example. It take more time to build girls but it help a lot to save ressources. With years of this I'm now swiming in gold/leveling spirits/ampules/gifts/ect.
NBPEL
01-28-2023, 03:30 AM
I've managed to half-clear this 850.000 map and I'm content now, I know it's not a full clear but this is my first true endgame clear and I'll comeback again once I get Honeysuckle free and Spring Star free, the left way is really hard with tanky angels and I couldn't break through (managed to kill 2, 1 left), but the top way is pretty easy.
I've know realized how strong Atk debuff can be in this game so I prob will collect more Atk Debuff units for future endgame.
RIP 13.000 stamina pots I guess, insane dedication: https://i.imgur.com/y0qDbpG.png
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01-28-2023, 04:07 AM
It's a special fun stage. It'll exipire in 8 days 19 hours and will never came back. It may have an easier and harder versions availables later for ever.
You still have time to get Honeysuckle School though. I found the back way easier than the top way. Honeysuckle can be a huge pain (and that the perfect case of negate damages turn 1 being useful).
Anyway, congrats for at least clearing it. That's nice :D
Fun fact, the stage cost no stamina and gives ~3300 gold and some regular gacha seeds. With auto-run, it's free gold source. Not game changing but that's still cool.
ATK debuff is almost mandatory late game. And even with -70% ATK you take huge chuncks of damages.
Well. There is crazy people about popularity poll. I prefer using them for farming usefull ressources or exp when there is a huge bonus. Even if leveling spirits key stages are better for this.
NBPEL
01-28-2023, 10:56 AM
I'm curious, is it only me or the Infinite Castle got a lot easier after Floor 80 ? And I think 100 was as tough as 80, but further levels were pretty smooth sailing for me. But I'm so glad I cleared floor 80 and then climbed up to 130 for the good 6* FM (my goal and unexpectedly I somehow climbed from 80 to 130 in one go) :silly:
From my experience in the game I used to play, the devs actually did something like this too, they tuned newer contents easier than old contents. But I expect higher floors will require something really OP like Corbett or Pavonia + Adlay to clear, but not now I guess. Honestly I really like this mode.
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01-28-2023, 12:07 PM
Yep, Floor difficulty is not really consistent. I know there is still some hard ones but I don't really remember them. I just remember floor 50 and 80 because I had a hard time on them on the trial castle.
Also, difficulty is really different between hard and normal if you try to get 10k point on each stage. Easy stages can turn into hell if you want to do it damageless.
For what I experienced, Pavonia is sucks on the castle. Actually, I never cleared a harder stage with her. But maybe I just don't know how to use her (that's the same for Tampala. She is supposed to be really good but I never got anything good from her).
For me, higher mode require Adlay & Zinnia + random utility girls. I hope something else work or it would be... meh.
(Obvioulsy I'm speaking of Hard Castle wirth perfect score. Normal Castle is a lot easier and you can use more team variety. Hard Castle is just for extra challenge and personnal satisfaction. It don't gives any specific reward).
I really like the Castle too. Fun and fast battles. I just regret Adlay & Zinnia being that good and almost required. Team building on lower level when they didn't exist was extremly fun. I still remember that damn floor with ultra high def/high ATK boss. I didn't have Aeonium and I couldn't use enough girls for both ATK and DEF debuff and for offense. And I came with hard ATK debuff and pursuit. Pursuit damages were not affected by defense and I had the easiest fight with boss and girls dealing 1 damage and a Sparaxis abusing the pursuit system.
Myers
01-28-2023, 05:48 PM
It's still before FKG anniversary so, I guess it's not too late. Time for the little end year (new year?) survey!
All the survey cover from event 181 (2022 new year event) to event 206 (2022 christmas event).
What was your favorite(s) totally new 5* (event and gacha since there is not that much new 5* anyway)?
*Peace Lily (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Peace_Lily)
Beautiful woman. Ironically also the only gold that is completely unobtainable, at least for me. :(
What was your favorite(s) totally new 6* (gacha or R-medals shop or event)?
*Angraecum (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Angraecum)
Beautiful woman. Though I can't use her in battle cuz I don't have the units she's good with.:(
What was your favorite(s) new alternative form? (5* or 6* but all are 6* I guess)
*Sparaxis (Halloween) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Sparaxis_(Halloween))
Beautiful woman.
What was your favorite(s) event?
*Event 206 - Praying for the Holy Night, and your Love (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Praying_for_the_Holy_Night,_and_your_Love)
It added the High&Low game. Would love to see other gambling games too, like Blackjack. I also like all the ladies added in this event, minus the event girl.
What was your favorite(s) new features added in 2022?
*The new stuff they've been adding to events (i.e. Test Your Strength for Raid Bosses, High&Low for Card Flip event, Pest Collecting, etc.)
*All the Ancient stuff
What do you wish as new features, changes or everything for 2023?
*Ability Rework for old RGs
*An English Version
Just like last year. Would like some more incentive to RG some old units.
Wutan
01-29-2023, 06:55 AM
Hi guys,
Long Time no See :eyeroll:
I decided pick this Game Up again even though i initially thought i am done with the Game cause after the Ability Rework My Teams were really screwed up. So many Girls lost their Skill Multiplier x1,2 for example and in my opinion my Poor Maple Swimsuit got a bit screwed with this one :frown:
Anyway i might have a few questions from time to time cause i don't know what the Metagame is now basically. I only know that Crit is not the Almightly Steamroll it once was. Problem is most of my Rainbows are about that Concept. The Ancient Knight are good i heared from maotd and others. Well i can only get Corbett for now soon i guess? Any idea guys how to build a Team around her? Maybe i should post in the New Tactica which Girls i have available atm.
Anyway it's good to see this section is still active :grin:
Here that's what i got from the 6th Step in the 8th Anniversary Step UP Gacha. Are these two any good??? :think:
And one Roll with Salt Tickets but i have to many Attack Type Units anyway by now :think:
8th Anniversary Step Up Gacha
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10 Ticket Salt Roll 28.01.2023
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Tomitain
01-29-2023, 01:32 PM
Hi guys,
Here that's what i got from the 6th Step in the 8th Anniversary Step UP Gacha. Are these two any good??? :think:
Cotton (the white haired one) gives the entire squad 2x skill proc the turn after anyone is hit, 1x damage negation, 20% skill drain up to 50% max HP per skill proc, +50% defense, 2x guaranteed chance to survive a fatal hit and +40% crit damage. She also grants one Attack-based ally up to +200% crit damage in chunks of 50%, with each chunk activating after the ally has dealt a critical hit five times.
I don't remember who the other rainbow is, but I'm betting someone else does.
maotd
01-29-2023, 02:17 PM
At first glance, ability rework "killed" some girls in a certain way but actually, it's way better now. Girls are more specialized, a lot of play style is finally viable (Heal, Evasion or Debuff for example) and the Character type (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Character_Management#Character_Type) brings new strategy with certain girls. A lot of girls lost the x1.2 skill act but many got x1.28~1.36 skill act. They have to work more together instead of just being randomly thworn in the same team. Maple Swimsuit is no more the good crit for all she was but she became a strong attacker. She needs support to shine but with it, she can shine brighter.
For me the current meta is almost Adlay+Zinnia supremacy. Adlay (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Adlay) is the best healer/defensive girl around. Zinnia (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Common_Zinnia) is the stupidiest support girl. She just pack every support you may want at top level. Her support is so strong that she became more offensive than ofensive girls after a few skills. Her only real weakness is her fragility, covered by Adlay. Corbett (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Corbett) is something between heavy attack and heavy debuff based on the number of enemies. I don't have her yet but I'm sure she is as broken as her friends.
Crit is no more almighty but it's still on the top. It was nerfed with the introduction of Crit rate debuff but got a rebuff with the introduction of that sweet "-50% damage on non-weak attack" and "-50% damages on non-crit attack". In other words, if you don't do weak or crit, even the strongest girl will do 1 dmg. You want crit as much as you can to cover the lack of weakness on certain girls. and you want Crit anyway to deal with the super high HP bosses.
I'll cover Corbett a bit more on tactica. That's a good occasion to bring it to life.
You got Muscari (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Muscari) and Cotton (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cotton). I think Cotton is okay. Not amazing but she has interesting stuff. Muscari, I think she has big boobs and hips. That's better than nothing I guess.
Nice to see you around there again. Welcome back o/
Myers> Thanks for not letting the survey die alone in the previous page >3
Angraecum seens so perfect for Cattleya. I didn't pay much attention to her first and it was a mistake. I hope I could have another chance to get her in 2023.
Peace Lily is a Comiket Girl. She will be available sooner or later with Bond Crystals.
Last year the power creep really set in and the ancient knights came.
I want Cotton, she is really a great support girl. I am gonna get her on reprint. You should really build her up.
Just pick a worthy attacker and build a support team around her to multiply her skills.
Devs make maps to counter everything, but not all at once.
So you gotta have flexibility on team builds.
EDIT:
There is new rainbow equip that you need to build up too. Really helps.
and dont forget about FMs.
NBPEL
01-29-2023, 07:55 PM
I just got my 2nd 6* Exchange Ticket, and assuming that I'll get Corbett (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Corbett) in the near future I think a support girl for her will be needed ? Because from reading Corbett's kit I need her to survive at least 2 turns for her to transform, to survive 2 turns I think I can easily with my Thunberg Spirea (Chrismast), Swimsuit Angelica or Dusty Miller (Parallel Academy), I'm thinking about picking a debuff girl to debuff enemy attack and skill activation because having them activating their skill can be devastating for my backline (AoE skills wear my other supports down, that's basically my problem for the longest time), or do I want a really strong selfish-DPS to help me build a second nuke team without relying on Debrobium doing everything, someone who doesn't rely on crit to be good, a pure beatstick. And my other weakness is the lack of a really good skill activation support unit, someone who can dish out decent damage or having good survivability, most of my strong units don't have that ability to improve skill activation rate... I'm thinking about:
Debuffer:
- Ivy (New Year) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Ivy_(New_Year)): Having 50% Atk Debuff and 50% skill activation debuff sounds tasty, she could fixes my weakest point that's protecting my support, I don't have enough shield to protect them like having Adlay, so debuffing could be my alternative path.
- Golden Lace (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Lace): 50% Atk Debuff and 50% Hit debuff looks very stable and it looks like she can be a tanker with her dodgy-ness.
Attacker:
- Sparaxis (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Sparaxis): This girl tho, she looks somehow stronger than Debrobium for me or am I mad ? She only has 4 abilities, but all of them are high quality, especially 100% Act Again is something else. I don't know how strong she's when compares to powercreep attackers like Corbett, or Pavonia. From my point of view, she's strong but she's in the 6* exchange ticket so she must be dated at this point of the game ?
- Corn Cockle (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Corn_Cockle): Just solid in my opinion, she doesn't need someone to give her crit rate because she got 100% already, x1.2 skill activation is a bit low for my liking tho, I would love x1.36.
Support:
Currently I have no idea about what's a good support in this game.
Healer:
Would be great if I can find someone close to Adlay in the exchange shop, but I really doubt because I expect Adlay to be way above the rest.
Because the list is huge so I couldn't catch all the good girls, I'm open to suggestion and that'll be wonderful for me to learn about other strong units and pick them with my future 6* tickets. :love:
If its defensive girls you seek as far as the older girls on the ticket go. I still use Golden Lace and Purslane pretty regularly.
Id look to RG Aeonium too.
Dont know when or how Adlay coming back and they are surely going to roll out more power creep for 2023.
NBPEL
01-30-2023, 02:18 AM
Should I buy other items with my 440 points from the RT campaign or can I get more to point buy the tasty 6* exchange ticket later on ? I really want this ticket, has anyone managed to get it ? If I missed something really important in the RT campaign then that's so sad..
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Edit: I just saw the kit of the new girl Bloss, looks like she has some healings, some buffs and a new skill Seed of Power of Wisdom (the effect gets stronger depend on the number of Blossom Hills character in the team). How do you think about her kit ?
キャラクター▼開花(能力のみ)対応キ ャラクターを追加
開花(能力のみ)に対応したキャラクタ ーを追加いたしました。
【対応キャラクターと、開花後のア リティ】
・★6ブロス
https://dugrqaqinbtcq.cloudfront.net/media/3d6e59d0-b18c-4eb3-b9e5-6e0689a1a3d9.jpg
■戦闘スキル 降り注ぐ常春のペタルム
・敵全体に2倍のダメージを与える
舞い上がる薫風のフロス
・敵全体に、敵が残り1体の場合4.7倍 2体の場合2.8倍、3体の場合2.2倍のダ ージを与える
果て無き繚乱のリーベラ
・敵全体に、敵が残り1体の場合5倍、 2体の場合4倍、3体の場合2.2倍のダメ ジを与え、HPを大吸収する
■開花アビリティ 【世界花ブロッサムヒルの化身※1】
【世界花ブロッサムヒルの化身※2】
[5人][【参戦】]ターン開始時、【運命率】でそのタ ン中、攻撃力上昇:80%
[5人]戦闘開始時、最大HPの50%回復する
[5人]スキル発動率:それぞれの好感度に応 て最大1.2倍(誓い100%以上の時のみ1. 6倍)
[ブロッサムヒル5人][【参戦】]自身を除くブロッサムヒルのキャラ ターが
・1人以上の時、【知徳の力の種 I】
・3人以上の時、【知徳の力の種 II】
・4人以上の時、【知徳の力の種 III】
・9人以上の時、【知徳の力の種 IV】
・14人以上の時、【知徳の力の種 V】
・19人以上の時、【知徳の力の種 VI】
※プッシュで詳細説明がポップアッ します。
※《力の種》内アビリティ
【知徳の力の種 I】
HP保護:20%
最大HPの110%まで維持可能
【知徳の力の種 II】
HP保護:60%(累計80%)
最大HPの110%(累計120%)まで維持可能
【知徳の力の種 III】
HP保護:120%(累計200%)
最大HPの130%(累計150%)まで維持可能
再行動率上昇:10%
【知徳の力の種 IV】
HP保護:50%(累計250%)
最大HPの200%(累計250%)まで維持可能
再行動率上昇:5%(累計15%)
※戦闘スキル変更「舞い上がる薫風 フロス」
敵全体に、敵が残り1体の場合4.7倍、2 体の場合2.8倍、3体の場合2.2倍のダメ ジを与える
※好感度が永遠の誓い以上の時、他 スキルと同様に、本スキル倍率も20% 昇する
【知徳の力の種 V】
HP保護:50%(累計300%)
最大HPの150%(累計300%)まで維持可能
毎ターン、HP保護10%
再行動率上昇:5%(累計20%)
【知徳の力の種 VI】
HP保護:700%(累計1000%)
毎ターン、HP保護20%(累計30%)
※戦闘スキル変更「果て無き繚乱の ーベラ」
敵全体に、敵が残り1体の場合5倍、2 の場合4倍、3体の場合2.2倍のダメー を与え、HPを大吸収する
※好感度が永遠の誓い以上の時、他 スキルと同様に本スキル倍率も20%上 する
I watched this video, thick shield (https://i.imgur.com/fAKRAwG.png): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8irSgCW-kQ | Source: https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/18673554.html
I don't know if it worth summoning for her, I might as well if she can be a replacement for my non-existence Adlay.
Wutan
01-30-2023, 07:00 AM
@Maotd, phob and Tomitain
Thank you for the Warm Welcome back and for your input on Team Building :grin:
It's good to see some of the Veterans still writing and regularly visiting here.
@phob
Hmm new Rainbow Equipment? Where can i get this one???:think:
maotd
01-30-2023, 11:06 AM
Hmm new Rainbow Equipment? Where can i get this one???
Some girls' personnal equipment and all the event equipment since event 203 can be promoted to rainbow rarity. It needs Aqua Crystals, mainly crafted with 10 6*Aqua Fragment for 1 Aqua Crystal and very rarely obtained in certain missions. You need 20 Crystals to promote an event equipment and 100 for a personnal equipmement. 6* equipment gives stat bonus (+1% ATK & DEF for event ones and 20% HP, 5% ATK & 10% DEF for personnal ones). It also gives a "nation" bonus if the nation typing of the equipment fit with equiped girl nation. And this gives skill damage bonus against pests weak to that specific nation typing (I think, I haven't used it a lot).
That's an interesting concept but it cost way too much ressources to be used over all your girls.
@NBPEL
Golden Lace is top notch choice for debuff. Fit really well in an intercept team. I love her since she was reworked.
Sparaxis is a good one too. She falls on really high difficulty stuff but she has nice spots on the castle.
Habranthus (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Habranthus) is this kind of do everything girl. I love her and she really deserve attention.
Cowslip (Maid) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cowslip_(Maid)) is a good defensive girl with Retain HP and Negate damage. and skill act.
Balsam was an awesome attack girl. She is not as good as she was in the past but I think she is still a good choice for offense.
Cardamine Lyrata (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Balsam). Good and give x2 skill act for everyone each time she is attacked. She was good to focus attack on her and let the other do the job. Until pests started to deal enough damages to one shot her despite all her options. Still work of less offensive bosses.
Cattleya (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cattleya) is a monster as long as you can get Vervain or Chamomille. They are exclusive gacha girls and who nows when they will came back. I don't think Cattleya is the right choice now but you must keep her in a corner of your mind.
About Adlay... no one is close too her. She is way above everything else and I don't even know if it's possible to get close to her with 5 girls.
and about Twitter campain I don't know at all. Last time there was one campain, twitter banned me on the first like without reason (I'm not on twitter and I created an account for that campain). F*ck you blue bird.
Wiki is a bit dead right now so, i'm not 100% sure about Bloss but she looks like Adlay on steroïds (at least for the retain HP part) as long as you limit yourself to Blossom Hill girls. Now, I can't wait for the other incarnations of the world flowers. She will work well with Spring Star school. And Corbett since Corbett come from Blossom Hill.
She will be bad for castle though since it's impossible to bring 20 girls.
NBPEL
01-30-2023, 11:27 AM
@NBPEL
Golden Lace is top notch choice for debuff. Fit really well in an intercept team. I love her since she was reworked.
Sparaxis is a good one too. She falls on really high difficulty stuff but she has nice spots on the castle.
Habranthus (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Habranthus) is this kind of do everything girl. I love her and she really deserve attention.
Cowslip (Maid) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cowslip_(Maid)) is a good defensive girl with Retain HP and Negate damage. and skill act.
Balsam was an awesome attack girl. She is not as good as she was in the past but I think she is still a good choice for offense.
Cardamine Lyrata (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Balsam). Good and give x2 skill act for everyone each time she is attacked. She was good to focus attack on her and let the other do the job. Until pests started to deal enough damages to one shot her despite all her options. Still work of less offensive bosses.
Cattleya (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cattleya) is a monster as long as you can get Vervain or Chamomille. They are exclusive gacha girls and who nows when they will came back. I don't think Cattleya is the right choice now but you must keep her in a corner of your mind.
About Adlay... no one is close too her. She is way above everything else and I don't even know if it's possible to get close to her with 5 girls.
and about Twitter campain I don't know at all. Last time there was one campain, twitter banned me on the first like without reason (I'm not on twitter and I created an account for that campain). F*ck you blue bird.
It looks like the wiki is broken, I can't check character page at all, only "Lua error: not enough memory.". I'm kind of a heavy-offensive player in past gachas I used to play, but I think this time I need to be real and pick a debuff girl to secure my future challenge fight for bonus materials, not like last event where I couldn't breakthrough the daily challenge map and missed some 6* materials which is kinda sad.
Oh, about Adlay and Bloss it's quite disappointing for me, so I'll continue to save my FS and patiently wait. On the bright side I checked her character wiki and it doesn't look like she won't get a rerun in a long time, the date between 2 reruns is bearable.
So from what I understand girls like Adlay, Zinnia, Corbett are limited units, no wonder why Bloss doesn't stand a chance, but now I understand the power of being limited gacha.
maotd
01-30-2023, 12:05 PM
Wiki is back!
I'm waiting more info for Bloss but I'm not sure she is that disappointing. I thought the same for Zinnia first and she is a monster. BTW, Bloss is limited too. A lot of 6* are limited gacha girls actually and it don't mean they are strong. Being part of the ancient flowers IS the reason. And being the incarnation of World Flower (for Bloss) is a reason too.
If you're not interested by Bloss, remember that there is a 30FG gacha running now.
Since Bloss came for the first time, she will certainly became available again later this year. And all the ancient flowers may be back in one special gacha all at once someday.
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I thought something about Bloss. She is a bit weak for multi-path missions but excels in mono-path.
When they say "19+ Blossom Hill girls" they don't mean "19+ rainbow Blossom Hill girls". Just make a full Blossom Hill's 6* team around Bloss and fill 3 back team with low * girls. Then, enjoy Bloss rampage. Her main feature is retain HP and HP over limit but she has a strong skill and 4 allies to buff her. More worth it than she looks.
Myers
01-30-2023, 03:23 PM
Should I buy other items with my 440 points from the RT campaign or can I get more to point buy the tasty 6* exchange ticket later on ? I really want this ticket, has anyone managed to get it ? If I missed something really important in the RT campaign then that's so sad..
Yeah it's over now unfortunately. You could earn up to 300 pts per day and there was about 6-7 days for the campaign. So in total you could get 1800 or 2100 pts during the campaign.
NBPEL
01-30-2023, 07:11 PM
Yeah it's over now unfortunately. You could earn up to 300 pts per day and there was about 6-7 days for the campaign. So in total you could get 1800 or 2100 pts during the campaign.
I see, so I think I probably missed my point because I was too being too honest :(, the rule is to Like and Retweet Tweets with hashtag #花騎士8周年 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E8%8A%B1%E9%A8%8E%E5%A3%AB8%E5%91%A8%E5%B9%B4?src =hashtag_click), and from what I've counted there's only total of 25 Tweets with that hashtag, so technically I can only earn up to maximum by 500 points, can I just un-Like and un-Retweet my old Tweets and Re-Like and Re-Retweet them to earn extra points or something else I could do I think ?
Myers
01-30-2023, 09:33 PM
I see, so I think I probably missed my point because I was too being too honest :(, the rule is to Like and Retweet Tweets with hashtag #花騎士8周年 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E8%8A%B1%E9%A8%8E%E5%A3%AB8%E5%91%A8%E5%B9%B4?src =hashtag_click), and from what I've counted there's only total of 25 Tweets with that hashtag, so technically I can only earn up to maximum by 500 points, can I just un-Like and un-Retweet my old Tweets and Re-Like and Re-Retweet them to earn extra points or something else I could do I think ?
I think you may have looked it up incorrectly because there are hundreds of tweets with that hashtag: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23%E8%8A%B1%E9%A8%8E%E5%A3%AB8%E5%91%A8% E5%B9%B4
NBPEL
01-30-2023, 11:33 PM
I think you may have looked it up incorrectly because there are hundreds of tweets with that hashtag: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23%E8%8A%B1%E9%A8%8E%E5%A3%AB8%E5%91%A8% E5%B9%B4
Thanks, now I understand and I'm sad, I thought I could only like and retweet posts from Official flower_staff only and didn't check retweet from people who joined the campaign too.
That 6* ticket would have helped me greatly, but maybe next time.. At least 1 lesson learned.
Also it's funny reading comments from Japanese players about the current voting event, I was browsing Japanese blog to research about Bloss and I saw this:
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It looks like Anemone is losing for real.
Unregistered
01-31-2023, 11:31 PM
You can get a trickle of DMM points from the M. Medal missions, but your points might expire before you reach 800. It's up to 8.3 points/day without a Japanese IP.
mission.games.dmm.co.jp and .com are separate
NBPEL
02-01-2023, 04:13 AM
@Unregistered: Thanks, I'll check that later on, but my chance is pretty much 0%, good thing is that I only have about 3-4 units that I want to get from the 6* exchange ticket, sooner or later I'll be able to get them anyways, even from off-banner summons, my current priorities are Ivy (New Year) + Golden Lace + Sparaxis (somehow I really like her kit, it's simple and effective, I feel like she's better than my 2nd best DPS Cactus).
I just got Ionocidium (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Ionocidium) and judging from my current situation, my Kerria can't really protect my backline in rough fights and Ionocidium seems to be even more defensive, so she could be my answer for hard hitting mobs, as long as my backline can stay alive there's chance.
maotd
02-01-2023, 10:27 AM
Ionocidium is less defensive than Kerria. She didn't have HP drain. But she may help in an intercept team as long as you have someone with intercept for 5 allies.
Also, you can get up to five 6* Spring Star (parallel academy) for 50k reprint crystals. Time to burn stamina. And build up more crystals for Honeysuckle (parallel academy) next month (I guess?). I don't know if she is full skill full equip slot. I guess.
NBPEL
02-01-2023, 11:53 AM
Ionocidium is less defensive than Kerria. She didn't have HP drain. But she may help in an intercept team as long as you have someone with intercept for 5 allies.
Also, you can get up to five 6* Spring Star (parallel academy) for 50k reprint crystals. Time to burn stamina. And build up more crystals for Honeysuckle (parallel academy) next month (I guess?). I don't know if she is full skill full equip slot. I guess.
That's unfortunte but I gotta try to use her because I need to fill my roster, I'll try to check the wiki and maybe I can hunt for a 5* with team buff intercept, but this thing sounds like a 6*s' exclusive toy.
I see, so it's 50k but the 5 stamina map is super cheap and free, I just need to auto for an hour and that should be more than enough. But great news because I want her to sate my thirst for 6*s. Especially Honeysuckle Parallel is quite good, I definitely want her at all cost.
maotd
02-01-2023, 12:00 PM
Iono is less good than Kerria but not bad. Still better to use her than a 5*. Evade girls are always worth as long as the enemy don't have precision buff. Crinum (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Crinum) is a 5* with intercept for all. Good girl.
50k sounds like a lot but it's so easy to get them. You can even go for more than one to fill your teams. Once again, it's better to use 4 times the same 6* than 5*. And you can replace her after that.
NBPEL
02-01-2023, 12:06 PM
Iono is less good than Kerria but not bad. Still better to use her than a 5*. Evade girls are always worth as long as the enemy don't have precision buff. Crinum (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Crinum) is a 5* with intercept for all. Good girl.
50k sounds like a lot but it's so easy to get them. You can even go for more than one to fill your teams. Once again, it's better to use 4 times the same 6* than 5*. And you can replace her after that.
Great advice, and they're really good too, I'll definitely farm the heck out of the reprint map.
maotd
02-01-2023, 01:36 PM
I confirm 6* Spring Star came fully unlocked. 50k is a fair price.
Bloss is really nice too. With the right team, she can handle Honeysuckle without taking damage (And Honeysuckle was the worst to my standards). Not as broken as the Ancient Flowers but who's care. She is cool. I'm glad I got her to play with.
NBPEL
02-01-2023, 02:13 PM
I confirm 6* Spring Star came fully unlocked. 50k is a fair price.
Bloss is really nice too. With the right team, she can handle Honeysuckle without taking damage (And Honeysuckle was the worst to my standards). Not as broken as the Ancient Flowers but who's care. She is cool. I'm glad I got her to play with.
Yeah, I just saw her in my shop and instantly recognized her, the girl with a big schoolbag, I've seen her in many videos from Japanese players, she's a tank and looks like a good one.
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Well worth the price.
You can load up on the Spring star for free and her rainbow equipment until you get a full complement of rainbows. Can use one per team.
I finally got Rye on the discount gacha, thankfully only took three pulls:grin:
Passing on Bloss keeping the gems
Ipheion back on the revival shop, and so will Suikazura in the next month or so
NBPEL
02-02-2023, 10:29 AM
Another newbie question, should I do the Bonus Battles after clearing Normal Battles ? Are they just waste of stamina because they only give a bit of level up items.
I got 10 stacks of those Bonus Battles before and they do cost a lot of stamina.
maotd
02-02-2023, 11:04 AM
bonus missions gives Life Crystals and Experience spirits. It was interesting long time ago but now, I don't bother with them anymore. There is enough sources of Exp spirits everywhere. Only good if you need Life Crystals. It better to farm more useful stuff.
NBPEL
02-02-2023, 11:19 AM
bonus missions gives Life Crystals and Experience spirits. It was interesting long time ago but now, I don't bother with them anymore. There is enough sources of Exp spirits everywhere. Only good if you need Life Crystals. It better to farm more useful stuff.
Yeah, then I gonna skip them from now on, thanks. I had the same feeling long time ago, just kept doing it for the sake of completion.
maotd
02-02-2023, 12:42 PM
Someone has infos on how the 6* personnal equipmement HP bonus is calculated? It's supposed to be +20% HP but after many tries it looks more like ~17% of HP without ampule and centies bonus... weird.
I'm messing a bit arroung with this bonus HP. Unless ATK and DEF bonus from equipmement, it's visually added to HP. But it still doesn't count in total power. But, that HP bonus is counted for retain HP calculation. That's great.
I think I got the trick for the 20% bonus. It's calculated on the base HP without any affection bonus or ampule bonus. So, at lvl120, it's calculated on base HP+6000. I think the +6000 is from centies over level and not ampule. It would be really weird otherwise. But I don't have a lvl120 girl without ampule to test it anyway.
That's a bit disappointing. It would have been cool it it was 20% of total HP. RIP my 48k HP Bloss :(
NBPEL
02-03-2023, 11:08 PM
I don't know how voting is calculating but it looks like Anemone is raising again and Hanamomo (Flowering Peach) dropped. A 5* like Ivy top 1 which is wierd I doubt she'll be able to keep this first place.
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Cute classroom:
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Also about Bloss, I think she's more suited for older players than newbies like me, I don't even have enough strong unit to use, left aside Blossom Hills' units, The ideal comp will likely require a lot of works and investments, from this blog post: https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/18737260.html
I really like this comp tho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHIJiGLoXK0
maotd
02-04-2023, 01:21 AM
That's just the top 100 in japanese name order, not in actual results order. Results are avaiable a bit after the end of the event and Anemone will be in top 10.
Like I said, Bloss works well on single path missions (like Corbett fight). If you're aiming to do the entire mission with only her team, you don't need to fill the 3 others with 6*. Actually, it's possible to build a full 6* team around Bloss just at the start (assuming you manage to get Bloss):
- Bloss
- Cactus (free starter 6*)
- Ume (free starter 6*)
- Sakura (free starter 6*)
- Spring Star School (buyable right now)
Obviously not the perfect team but still works for most of the game.
Even the team in the video is almost easy to build. Bloss is Bloss, Corbett will be available soon, Horse Chestnut is old and available with 6* tickets/300 R-medals and Pincushion is a promoted 5* (5* are easy to get and she will drop from gacha or world exploration sooner or later). The only real problem is Thunberg Spirea (Christmas).
I don't really know why Thunberg Spirea (Christmas) is here. I guess Spring Star (School) is a possible option here.
Anyway, I like this composition. I guess I'll look for Pincushion now.
maotd
02-07-2023, 09:22 AM
This guy is a genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niEzI0yHH5U
Multiple Bloss. That's really clever. How to use her at full potential? Bring 4 Bloss. One per team. Almost flawless strategy (as long as you don't fight bosses with +∞ ATK buff).
NBPEL
02-08-2023, 02:39 AM
This guy is a genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niEzI0yHH5U
Multiple Bloss. That's really clever. How to use her at full potential? Bring 4 Bloss. One per team. Almost flawless strategy (as long as you don't fight bosses with +∞ ATK buff).
That's whale's territory, but not bad if someone manages to pull 4 Bloss(s), but well the gacha is pretty bad so pulling 4 could be a big deal and a huge FS sunk.
Tbh, I might want to try for this strats, looks pretty much unbeatable (and dumb) but I wish I have more Blossom Hills' girls.
maotd
02-08-2023, 12:08 PM
Gacha used to be 0.5% rainbow instead of 2%. And no free stuff each 11 rolls. Current gacha is way better (and way more agressive with that much 6* to get each event instead of one and only one).
I never whaled a penny and I'm close to that point. Girls came with time, patience and good management (including some anticipation) ;). Also, I got 3 Zinnia at once on her gacha (2 on the 10th step of 11 rolls + 1 as 10th step reward) sowWith luck, it's totally possible to get more than one Bloss (I'll get another one if I'll spend 300 more FS but with Corbett in the background I'm not sure I want to waste my precious FS. Also, I don't like having and using the same girl twice...).
NBPEL
02-10-2023, 08:52 AM
Gacha used to be 0.5% rainbow instead of 2%. And no free stuff each 11 rolls. Current gacha is way better (and way more agressive with that much 6* to get each event instead of one and only one).
I never whaled a penny and I'm close to that point. Girls came with time, patience and good management (including some anticipation) ;). Also, I got 3 Zinnia at once on her gacha (2 on the 10th step of 11 rolls + 1 as 10th step reward) sowWith luck, it's totally possible to get more than one Bloss (I'll get another one if I'll spend 300 more FS but with Corbett in the background I'm not sure I want to waste my precious FS. Also, I don't like having and using the same girl twice...).
I'm saving too, I feel like I need to pick carefully who I want to summon, this is my current wishlist, I think if I get a few streaks of unlucky (all out 110 FS for 1 copy) I won't be able to get all of them:
- Corbett
- Zinnia
- Adlay
- Twinleaf (she's strong imo, from my view she's as strong as Sparaxis, but I think long time players do rate her higher than Sparaxis because I saw a lot of Twinleaf in Youtube and NicoNico videos but I didn't see a single Sparaxis and I like her character, brave and cute)
- Pavonia (she looks like a vampire)
maotd
02-10-2023, 12:00 PM
Twinleaf seems really good for sure (and better than Sparaxis). She is on my own wishlist. I guess I'll get her on the infinite reroll gacha.
Pavonia don't cost FS but R-medals since she is exclusive to R-medal shop. You have the list of the R-medal 6* exlusive here: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Clearing_House#Rainbow_Medals.
And the Ancient Flowers are still exclusive to their own limited gacha. Only Corbett is guaranteed to came back soon. It's good to keep some FS just in case but don't hold them for ever in hope you can get Adlay or Zinnia in a gacha. They are not available in the regular gacha pool and they may never be sadly (at least, none of the limited girls are since they started limited gacha).
You have the full list of available girls in a gacha by clinking on the Nazuna icon on top-right corner of any gacha.
My personnal current wish list is:
- Twinleaf (planed for reroll gacha)
- Corbett (planed for her reprint gacha)
- Hinoki Cypress school (I hope I could get her before the 30FG gacha contest winner on november/december)
- Tacca Chantilly (if she ever came back from her cursed limited gacha ><)
- Isogiku Formal Dress for waifu stuff (if I could get her easily of she will wait 9th anniversary 30FG gacha if this kind of gacha still exist)
NBPEL
02-10-2023, 09:44 PM
Twinleaf seems really good for sure (and better than Sparaxis). She is on my own wishlist. I guess I'll get her on the infinite reroll gacha.
Pavonia don't cost FS but R-medals since she is exclusive to R-medal shop. You have the list of the R-medal 6* exlusive here: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Clearing_House#Rainbow_Medals.
And the Ancient Flowers are still exclusive to their own limited gacha. Only Corbett is guaranteed to came back soon. It's good to keep some FS just in case but don't hold them for ever in hope you can get Adlay or Zinnia in a gacha. They are not available in the regular gacha pool and they may never be sadly (at least, none of the limited girls are since they started limited gacha).
You have the full list of available girls in a gacha by clinking on the Nazuna icon on top-right corner of any gacha.
My personnal current wish list is:
- Twinleaf (planed for reroll gacha)
- Corbett (planed for her reprint gacha)
- Hinoki Cypress school (I hope I could get her before the 30FG gacha contest winner on november/december)
- Tacca Chantilly (if she ever came back from her cursed limited gacha ><)
- Isogiku Formal Dress for waifu stuff (if I could get her easily of she will wait 9th anniversary 30FG gacha if this kind of gacha still exist)
Yeah, about Twinleaf vs Sparaxis I think now I understand why, I think 100% act again is overkill because 60% serves well enough and it's easy to get Act Again 15% from teammates like Thunberg Spirea Christmas and 75% is more than enough, and there's FMs that give 10% without maxing them out, and that's 85% easily, and lacking 1 ability slot for something like Boss damage also hurts, and Combo Hit is better than Pursuit I think, for my early game Pursuit feels okay from my experience of using Cactus, but looks like it has its limit.
I also plan on getting Hinoki Parallel Academy, such a good attribute support and she's rated highly by Japanese players as SSS tier for 6^.
Also I checked the Rainbow Medal's 6* Exchange, it looks like Pavonia is my obvious choice as she looks ways better than the rest.
maotd
02-11-2023, 01:20 AM
About Sparaxis vs Twinleaf, that's really simple. It's just a question of Pursuit vs Combo Hit and Combo Hit is better in most cases. The only scenario of Sparaxis being better than Twinleaf I know is versus enemies with extremly high defense. Pursuit Damages seems not affected by defense (or at least, it ingore a great part of it) and Sparaxis can perform better than Twinleaf low damages and low Combo.
Sparaxis is still great and only fail because enemies has way too much HP (that's basically the same for all the Pursuit mechanic).
Also, 100% re-act is not overkill since re-act is naturally caped at 90%. 90% is great but it will always fail when you really need it :D
Pavonia is obviously the best choice from Rainbow Medal's 6* Exchange. Diamond Frost and Crepis are okay too (Crepis not that much but she is from Blossom Hill making her a good option for Bloss team).
another girl you should put on your wish list is Flowering Peach (Halloween) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Flowering_Peach_(Halloween)). She is very versatile as support.
NBPEL
02-11-2023, 03:53 AM
About Sparaxis vs Twinleaf, that's really simple. It's just a question of Pursuit vs Combo Hit and Combo Hit is better in most cases. The only scenario of Sparaxis being better than Twinleaf I know is versus enemies with extremly high defense. Pursuit Damages seems not affected by defense (or at least, it ingore a great part of it) and Sparaxis can perform better than Twinleaf low damages and low Combo.
Sparaxis is still great and only fail because enemies has way too much HP (that's basically the same for all the Pursuit mechanic).
Also, 100% re-act is not overkill since re-act is naturally caped at 90%. 90% is great but it will always fail when you really need it :D
Pavonia is obviously the best choice from Rainbow Medal's 6* Exchange. Diamond Frost and Crepis are okay too (Crepis not that much but she is from Blossom Hill making her a good option for Bloss team).
another girl you should put on your wish list is Flowering Peach (Halloween) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Flowering_Peach_(Halloween)). She is very versatile as support.
I see, it's a scaling issue for Pursuit, so Pursuit's description said something like this: it uses team overall force as extra damage, so if a Pursuit with 120% overall force ability in a 200k team will add 240k bonus damage which is pretty whatever in endgame contents I guess, but 20% Combo Hit scales a lot more than that when some DPS like Pavonia can do about 89milions damage all by herself (this is what I see from my friend helper's Pavonia), 20% of 89milions is already ways better than 120% Pursuit, is that right ?
maotd
02-11-2023, 05:42 AM
Yep. That's it.
The highest TP I can get with Sparaxis is ~300k. Since pursuit can deal weak crit damages, you can expect ~1.9M damages of pursuit. That's not bad at all but in a world where you're supposed to do ~200M damages in ten turns... that's not enough. That's why 20% combo hit perform better when you already do over 50M damages.
Edit: I did a little comparative on daily event map. Sparaxis did a nice 480k crit pursuit while Tritoma just did ~4M weak combo hit. It's definitively way better. Not every combo hit girls are that good though. They still need to do at least some damages to make effective combo hit.
NBPEL
02-12-2023, 10:11 AM
Yep. That's it.
The highest TP I can get with Sparaxis is ~300k. Since pursuit can deal weak crit damages, you can expect ~1.9M damages of pursuit. That's not bad at all but in a world where you're supposed to do ~200M damages in ten turns... that's not enough. That's why 20% combo hit perform better when you already do over 50M damages.
Edit: I did a little comparative on daily event map. Sparaxis did a nice 480k crit pursuit while Tritoma just did ~4M weak combo hit. It's definitively way better. Not every combo hit girls are that good though. They still need to do at least some damages to make effective combo hit.
Talk about Combo Hit and I just got Bush Clover (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bush_Clover) who has both Combo Hit and Act Again 100% like Sparaxis, now I guess I don't need to summon Sparaxis anymore and I can just get another debuff girl to make thing easier. My impression about this unit is that she's Sparaxis but better, same selfish DPS kit with a little debuff, especially she gets Combo Hit instead of Pursuit. So my verdict is she seems to be pretty good to carry me until I get Corbett, what do you think about her, is she good enough to be my top tier DPS or top tier DPS belong to Ancient girls anyways ?
Actually I think at my current stage, Combo Hit is actually worse than Pursuit because I barely do 1M damage.
maotd
02-12-2023, 12:28 PM
I almost got Bush Clover when I was searching for substitute for Twinleaf. She seems good but I don't really know actually. I guess she will work as long as you give her Slice/Blunt/Magic type and a bunch of crit buff. And a good amount of skill act obviously.
She is far from Ancient Knights but almost every girl is far from them. It doesn't meen she can't be a good DPS if you use her with the right allies. Actually, I think a lot of girl can be as good as Ancient Knights on a specific point but they just can't be as good on every aspect. Ancient Knights are above everything because they are very versatile and shines on many aspects.
I took a look to videos of that guy (https://www.youtube.com/@user-vy9wy9vj3q) (thanks for sharing) and there is actually good ideas outside of spaming Bloss. It's really a hard work to make girls works perfectly supporting eachother.
I wont say Bush Clover is Sparaxis but better. She may turn better in the right team but they just don't exactly share the same role. As I said Sparaxis can be used to trick high def/medium HP enemies when Bush Clover can't. And Sparaxis is way more badass (never forget, it's a waifu game. Waifu factor is as important as combat).
Back to Bush Clover. Start with Spring Star (school) and Dusty Miller (school) and maybe Ash to cover more attributes. And someone with x1.36 skill act to add a bit more skill. Bring Bush Clover to 200% affection and full basic ampule (at least) and she may start to do the job.
NBPEL
02-13-2023, 02:06 AM
Info of 2 new Valentine units for discussion, much simpler than Bloss's:
▼開花(能力のみ)対応キャラクターを 追加
開花(能力のみ)に対応したキャラクタ ーを追加いたしました。
【対応キャラクターと、開花後のア リティ】
・★6ジュズダマ(バレンタイン)
https://dugrqaqinbtcq.cloudfront.net/media/731f99ec-555e-440e-a364-674dd17817e6.jpg
■戦闘スキル 敵単体に4.3倍のダメージを与え、HPを 吸収する
■開花アビリティ [5人][【参戦】]自身のHPが低いほど【スキルダメージ 】上昇:最大60%
[5人]自身のHPが10%未満になるたび、【HP保 】追加:75%(ターン中1回)
[自身]【HP保護】追加:100%
[自身]自身のHPが10%未満になるたび、確率【 ガッツ】:1回(ターン中1回)
[自身]自身のHPが10%未満になった次ターン開 始時、スキル発動率変更:100%
[自身]自身のHPが20%以上になった次ターン開 始時、HP変更:最大HPの1%
[守護タイプ1人][【参戦】]自身のHPが10%未満になるたび、防御力 上昇:50%(戦闘中4回)
[攻撃タイプ1人][【参戦】]自身のHPが10%未満になるたび、攻撃力 上昇:50%(戦闘中4回)
・★6イタドリ(バレンタイン)
https://dugrqaqinbtcq.cloudfront.net/media/7005e1b4-61b1-42ee-bb88-912f0256659f.jpg
■戦闘スキル 敵全体に2.8倍のダメージを与える
■開花アビリティ[自身]100%の確率で【迎撃】2倍
[自身]迎撃ダメージ上昇:100%
[自身][【参戦】]自身のHPが低いほど攻撃力上昇:最大30 0%
[自身]【挑発】(小)
[自身]自身のHPが30%未満になった次ターン 始時【特殊回避】:1回
[自身]戦闘開始時、HP変更:最大HPの1%
[自身]【回避】率上昇:70%
[敵全体][1ターン目のみ]【防御力低下】:70%
[自身]被ダメージ上昇:50%
[自身]【特殊回避】:3回
maotd
02-13-2023, 11:13 AM
That's interesting I guess. You should like that less HP more damage thing. Not bad but I guess I'll pass. I like staying alive.
Also, Valentine Knot Weed is byuable in the wharehouse for 90oo FG.
NBPEL
02-13-2023, 12:42 PM
That's interesting I guess. You should like that less HP more damage thing. Not bad but I guess I'll pass. I like staying alive.
Also, Valentine Knot Weed is byuable in the wharehouse for 90oo FG.
Yeah, it is quite coincidental we talked about low HP units not too long a ago and the devs delivered, I'm interesting about those units because that was my playstyle high risk high reward, it's great to be able to get Knotweed from the wares tho, guess they keep the legacy.
Good thing they're trying to add something new to the meta, because low HP can be meta if they push as hard as enmity units in GBF. Basically all they need are:
- Someone to protect them with a shiled like Adlay
- Lower HP = Tankier => The shield gets harder to pierce through
maotd
02-13-2023, 03:00 PM
I didn't expect Knotweed being in the shop but that's great. It makes another easy-to-get rainbow for newcomers.
It will be better to get someone else instead of Adlay. Regular adlay can't use her full potential in a low HP team (she gives Increase Damage by (Current HP / Max HP) * 100% to everyone. That's too good to not be used). But right now, we don't have as good retain HP as Adlay or Bloss in a certain mesure.
A girl who work perfectly in that kind of team would be Wolf Berry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Wolf_Berry_(Flower_Knight_of_the_Seven_Flowers)) (but her page is broken but you can find japanese stuff here: https://ro.luluroom.info/data/0797.html)
I don't know if lower HP higher shield would really work. But it would with evasion, negate damages and guts.
If you can get Adlay Valentine, I think there is something to do. Wolf Berry is not hard to get since she is in the regular gacha (could get her from the reroll gacha) and she is a popularity contest winner (available in the popularity contest winner 30Fg gacha).
Dragon Tree (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Tree) is still a good option. Even better now with Adlay Valentine.
Adlay with HP drain skill is a problem though. She would be better without it.
NBPEL
02-13-2023, 09:27 PM
I didn't expect Knotweed being in the shop but that's great. It makes another easy-to-get rainbow for newcomers.
It will be better to get someone else instead of Adlay. Regular adlay can't use her full potential in a low HP team (she gives Increase Damage by (Current HP / Max HP) * 100% to everyone. That's too good to not be used). But right now, we don't have as good retain HP as Adlay or Bloss in a certain mesure.
A girl who work perfectly in that kind of team would be Wolf Berry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Wolf_Berry_(Flower_Knight_of_the_Seven_Flowers)) (but her page is broken but you can find japanese stuff here: https://ro.luluroom.info/data/0797.html)
I don't know if lower HP higher shield would really work. But it would with evasion, negate damages and guts.
If you can get Adlay Valentine, I think there is something to do. Wolf Berry is not hard to get since she is in the regular gacha (could get her from the reroll gacha) and she is a popularity contest winner (available in the popularity contest winner 30Fg gacha).
Dragon Tree (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Tree) is still a good option. Even better now with Adlay Valentine.
Adlay with HP drain skill is a problem though. She would be better without it.
Yeah, I think Knotweed Valentine definitely needs Adlay Valentine to really do something, still she's a very good support regardless with her 70% Def Down for a turn 1 kill and by a artifical tanker for low hit count enemies. Her `[For self] Increase Damage taken by 50%` is really dangerous tho, like it literally ruins everything. While I think Knotweed Valentine is interesting, her weakness is pretty big and needs someone to patch it.
Wolf Berry looks really interesting, I guess getting her will be my long/short terms (luck-based) project.
Adlay Valentine is like my game enabler for the future, I'll consider getting her but for now I need to some Japanese bloggers/lab rats to test her for me. I kinda need to know if 100-75% Retain HP will be enough, compare to the normal Adlay, 100% vs 500% is kinda small and I've seen teams with normal Adlay dying to heavy hitting enemies, and even Bloss team can die too, for example at the end of this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=niEzI0yHH5U
Yeah, any kind of healing/HP drain will ruin low HP setup probably, that's why shield is the way to go, that was a thing in the gacha game I used to play.
maotd
02-14-2023, 01:27 PM
I didn't notice Knotweed +50% damage taken. I would say it's not a big deal once you're at 1% HP but it will apply on your retain HP and that's annoying. I guess you want to focus on evasion anyway.
Keep in mind that Adlay Valentine is an exclusive gacha 6* and won't be available in the regular gacha pool. She may be (really) hard to get in the future. If you like her, take her. That's the most important.
With time, good girls can turn bad (ex. 90% of rainbows and most of promoted girls) and bad girl can turn good (ex. Golden Lace).
It's hard to decide but if you always wait and see, girls will be useless or outdated by the time you get them. I can make a huge list of girls like that. I wanted them, waited a long time before I could get them, never used them and regret no getting them when they were good.
NBPEL
02-15-2023, 04:41 AM
I didn't notice Knotweed +50% damage taken. I would say it's not a big deal once you're at 1% HP but it will apply on your retain HP and that's annoying. I guess you want to focus on evasion anyway.
Keep in mind that Adlay Valentine is an exclusive gacha 6* and won't be available in the regular gacha pool. She may be (really) hard to get in the future. If you like her, take her. That's the most important.
With time, good girls can turn bad (ex. 90% of rainbows and most of promoted girls) and bad girl can turn good (ex. Golden Lace).
It's hard to decide but if you always wait and see, girls will be useless or outdated by the time you get them. I can make a huge list of girls like that. I wanted them, waited a long time before I could get them, never used them and regret no getting them when they were good.
I see, I didn't know Adlay Valentine being limited, I do think that Adlay Valentine is pretty good and future proof or not all depends on future low HP units being good or not, at the momment there's not so many of them but who knows. I do have some concerns about her kit tho:
- HP Drain skill (like Kerria), eventho it's easy to get her to 1HP, and at low HP she gets double skill activation rate, but she can get back to 1HP with her "[For self] If you have 20% HP or more, on the next turn, drop to 1% Max HP", so I think it's not a big deal ?
- Despite being a support unit, her kit is too selfish
- I think she'll be able to maintain 100% Retain HP, but her passive looks very weak when compares to normal Adlay, just the problem of her past self being too good
But she can be very good if:
- Future units allow her to limit break 100% Retain HP to 500% like normal Adlay
- Future units are low HP and they're at the same level as Ancient girls
And yes Golden Lace is so good, I also want to get Ivy New Year too, debuff girls are very good overall.
This person is also a good FKG blogger, his 5* flower girl review is perfect and I learned a lot from his article to future plan my 5* units: http://tunachaofan.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-782.html
He doesn't have a Youtube channel tho I think.
P/s: Finally I'll be able to get Corbett!! https://web.flower-knight-girls.co.jp/web/sp/news/articles?id=1759&platform_type=1
Got her, but sadly I'm broke now, it was so costly... Literally half of my saved FS... It's kinda salvageable becauce I got the big breast loli Isogiku and this girl I don't know her:
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And this girl is kinda, I know she's just a 5* but she looks like someone from Clannad anime, I like her design, maybe I'll try to use her:
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maotd
02-15-2023, 10:41 AM
I see, I didn't know Adlay Valentine being limited
I think every girls featured in week2 gacha are limited gacha 6*. Or you can see the recent changes on the wiki's homepage right side: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Flower_Knight_Girl_Wikia. Or even check the regular gacha pool to see if a girl is in it or not.
I found Adlay Valentine too selfish too. 100% retain HP should be for 5 and not for self. And Absorb HP on her makes no sense for sure.
Anyway, I think no Ancient Flower alternative version will be close to their regular version. Maybe Bamboo could because regular Bamboo is meh.
No unit will change Valentine Adlay 100% retain HP. If an ability could increase the remain HP given by another unit, it will affect every units. Including regular Adlay. And Bloss but devs would be crazy to give a such broken ability to a Blossom Hill Girl.
Low HP unit close to Ancient Flower level is more plausible.
I think there is an interesting game style behind this low HP thing but it seems devs are a bit afraid to push it farer.
I didn't know Corbett was out right now. Good to know. And congrats for the 3 rainbows. Corbett and Bluet are awesome. Isogiku is nice I guess. But it would be better to get her Easter form.
And the 5* is Soapwort New Year. Pretty easy to get and good once promoted to 6* (I used her a lot in the past). There is also a natural 6* version (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Soapwort), not bad at all.
NBPEL
02-15-2023, 10:55 AM
I think every girls featured in week2 gacha are limited gacha 6*. Or you can see the recent changes on the wiki's homepage right side: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Flower_Knight_Girl_Wikia. Or even check the regular gacha pool to see if a girl is in it or not.
I found Adlay Valentine too selfish too. 100% retain HP should be for 5 and not for self. And Absorb HP on her makes no sense for sure.
Anyway, I think no Ancient Flower alternative version will be close to their regular version. Maybe Bamboo could because regular Bamboo is meh.
No unit will change Valentine Adlay 100% retain HP. If an ability could increase the remain HP given by another unit, it will affect every units. Including regular Adlay. And Bloss but devs would be crazy to give a such broken ability to a Blossom Hill Girl.
Low HP unit close to Ancient Flower level is more plausible.
I think there is an interesting game style behind this low HP thing but it seems devs are a bit afraid to push it farer.
I didn't know Corbett was out right now. Good to know. And congrats for the 3 rainbows. Corbett and Bluet are awesome. Isogiku is nice I guess. But it would be better to get her Easter form.
And the 5* is Soapwort New Year. Pretty easy to get and good once promoted to 6* (I used her a lot in the past). There is also a natural 6* version (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Soapwort), not bad at all.
Thanks! I'm so glad the other girl Bluet is good too (I think she's a mini-Adlay). Yeah, I somehow recognized her 6* version from videos I've watched, her 6*'s chibi looks pretty funny imo, I kinda want to get her in the future for collection purpose.
About low HP units, I wish so, hope more girls will come but for now I need to patiently wait. I think devs definitely tried to not make this style too OP, but judging from how popular GBF is, I do think they definitely know how strong this low HP style is and they want to save it for later gacha I think.
maotd
02-15-2023, 12:39 PM
Bluet is just a good intercept girl but have one of the best (if not the best) crit damage for 5 with +70%. She is not insane but is the best choice when you want as much crit damage as possible.
Good addition to your future intercept team.
I think low HP needs heavy buffs to be OP. There is already way too OP girls at full HP. Low HP girls needs to be over that to justify their 1% HP.
Also, these low HP girls drop to 1% HP but lower HP abilities reach full potiential at 1 HP, not 1%. This means they will be at full potential only after a guts. There is still a long way to make it actually OP. But it could be a thing one day. They managed to make solar team goods. Why not low HP?
And yep, this site: http://tunachaofan.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-782.html is good. Puting Tritoma and Aeonium top tier in their respective categories is a sign of good taste quand quality.
The analysis of Tritoma is pretty accurate. I should make a video of her annihilating the harest daily event mission.
NBPEL
02-15-2023, 12:49 PM
Bluet is just a good intercept girl but have one of the best (if not the best) crit damage for 5 with +70%. She is not insane but is the best choice when you want as much crit damage as possible.
Good addition to your future intercept team.
The analysis of Tritoma is pretty accurate. I should make a video of her annihilating the harest daily event mission.
Actually after checked I got Bluet's Rising Star alt (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bluet_(Rising_Star_of_the_Sparkling_Fairyland)) unfortunately (or fortunate because I think her alt's kit is pretty good for my Corbett team, mainly to keep her alive then let Corbett do her own things).
I want Tritoma too but she's still avoiding me despite of me spending quite a lot of rolls already, her kit is at the quality of a 6* unit I think (literally all the best things for a DPS, Combo Hit BiS, 3 times crits for free, 3 times Act Agains for free, 3 times skills for free, 60% damage for free too, her kit is just too easy to use and make it works), I can't believe a 5* can be that hard to get 1 copy. And I think I definitely should get Aeonium now, she's very good.
maotd
02-15-2023, 01:29 PM
Bluet Rising Star is good too. Must have with Cattleya and Vervain/Chamomille. Maybe slighlty better than regular Bluet.
But her + Thunberg Spirea (Christmas) is a nice combo for Corbett.
You won't get Tritoma even with all the FS of the world. She is an event girl.
You will have to wait a long time before she was available as rereprint girl. Last rereprint event is event 155. Tritoma is from event 193. Maybe there is a chance they do something for event 272 with special event girls ticket like we had for event 100 but you sould not count on it.
Wolfberry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) and Flowering Peach (Halloween) get their bloomed form today and should have their feztured gacha next week. Time to save more FS!
Edit: got Corbett too. I had to go up to the free one for 500 FS... I'm glad I saved over 1k FS.
Bloss+Corbett is fun. Worth the FS. No regrets.
NBPEL
02-15-2023, 04:55 PM
Bluet Rising Star is good too. Must have with Cattleya and Vervain/Chamomille. Maybe slighlty better than regular Bluet.
But her + Thunberg Spirea (Christmas) is a nice combo for Corbett.
You won't get Tritoma even with all the FS of the world. She is an event girl.
You will have to wait a long time before she was available as rereprint girl. Last rereprint event is event 155. Tritoma is from event 193. Maybe there is a chance they do something for event 272 with special event girls ticket like we had for event 100 but you sould not count on it.
Wolfberry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) and Flowering Peach (Halloween) get their bloomed form today and should have their feztured gacha next week. Time to save more FS!
Edit: got Corbett too. I had to go up to the free one for 500 FS... I'm glad I saved over 1k FS.
Bloss+Corbett is fun. Worth the FS. No regrets.
Grats on getting Corbett and achieving your combo team.
About Tritoma I guess it's a bit disappointing because I joined late and probably missed her first reprint event too, but no rush because I've realised that Rarity Growth-ing a 5* to 6* is very costly, it probably takes about 3 unlucky banners to be able to save enough RG stone. At least it's my current situation, I want to RG Aeonium, Dragon Tree.. and many 5* units but it'll take a lot of time.
I'll check Wolfberry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) and Flowering Peach (Halloween), maybe their bloomed form will be game changing.
maotd
02-16-2023, 01:30 AM
Yep. You joined a tiny bit after her first reprint. It used to be 2 rereprint event added each month in the past but I don't know if it's always the case since they don't re-add the event stages themselves.
Sadly, there is almost 2 years between the last rereprint event and the current reprint event. Some events (collab events) will be skipped and may makes thinks faster (if the devs don't slow the process to keep the 2 years delay...).
The best source of Rainbows Shards for Rarity Growth is from 30FS gacha. If you want to RG someone, consider this gacha (and you may end with one or more bonus 6*).
Bloomed form is only their visual 3rd form and 2dn affection scene (if you play 18+ version). Every girls came naturaly with a bloomed form. If Wolfberry is just good to use with low HP girls, Flowering Peach is already game changing (not by herself but she is a very versatile support).
Myers
02-16-2023, 01:41 AM
Can get Valentine's presents from your vice-leader: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Item#Valentine's_Day_Chocolate_2023
https://i.imgur.com/GHd9U8v.png
It's just generic text though, no character-specific Valentine's cards like in the past.
NBPEL
02-16-2023, 06:36 AM
Yep. You joined a tiny bit after her first reprint. It used to be 2 rereprint event added each month in the past but I don't know if it's always the case since they don't re-add the event stages themselves.
Sadly, there is almost 2 years between the last rereprint event and the current reprint event. Some events (collab events) will be skipped and may makes thinks faster (if the devs don't slow the process to keep the 2 years delay...).
The best source of Rainbows Shards for Rarity Growth is from 30FS gacha. If you want to RG someone, consider this gacha (and you may end with one or more bonus 6*).
Bloomed form is only their visual 3rd form and 2dn affection scene (if you play 18+ version). Every girls came naturaly with a bloomed form. If Wolfberry is just good to use with low HP girls, Flowering Peach is already game changing (not by herself but she is a very versatile support).
Ancient girls are truly OP, I've managed to beat the event EX challenge map (and Corbett just soloed them all), which is the first time ever and I feel very good (best).
I think this map is harder than the Anniversary challenge map because I tried very hard to beat it without Corbett a few days ago and it was depression, but with Corbett it's like 4x easier and I managed to clear it 1st try with her, that makes me even happier :D
And it was kinda funny because I completely ran out of upgrade mats after spending all of my ampule to max out my recent 6*, leaving my Corbett unfinished but she still managed to do (a lot).
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Another hard battle cleared! Now I need to save my FS and plan for future gacha!
P/s: Thanks to Corbett I've managed to beat the infinite Castle level 160 and on, I was stuck at lv160 before: https://streamable.com/h4pk5v
maotd
02-16-2023, 07:29 AM
Congrats. Now you have to do it daily :D
I would say the anniversay map is a bit harder. Battles may be easier but are more different than this daily stage and may needs different strategies. The daily stage is basicaly two times the same things + one hard boss. But it's hard when you don't have the right set up to deal with that kind of battles.
But anniversary map is easier than the true ancien flowers maps anyway. Maybe you could try Honeysuckle now with Corbett (Corbett+Bloss kicked her before I could rise to 300% sun gauge...).
NBPEL
02-16-2023, 09:38 PM
Congrats. Now you have to do it daily :D
I would say the anniversay map is a bit harder. Battles may be easier but are more different than this daily stage and may needs different strategies. The daily stage is basicaly two times the same things + one hard boss. But it's hard when you don't have the right set up to deal with that kind of battles.
But anniversary map is easier than the true ancien flowers maps anyway. Maybe you could try Honeysuckle now with Corbett (Corbett+Bloss kicked her before I could rise to 300% sun gauge...).
I replaced Colchicum with Isogiku and it got a lot more easier now, she tanked like a champ, in this fight the 1st fight vs 3 ants is the most scary, they deal a tons of damage and that means I have to kill them quick, the 2nd battle is rather easy for my stall comps because they barely do any damage.
About Isogiku (Easter) vs Isogiku (Formal), in my case I probably want to pair Corbett with Formal Isogiku, 15% Act Again is pretty sweet and I have the Provoke + 1.2x Skill Activation when attacked FM so she can be the main tank, I wish I have the 25% Act Again FM tho, that will solve a lot of problems with my Corbett comp, currently I want to get at least 80% Act Again, because I think 80% is more than enough.
Also, should I change my Corbett's type attribute ? Formal Isogiku's abilities only buff attack type allies, so I think it's better to change but I want to know if there is any downside ?
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I'll try to do High Difficulty maps after maxing out my Corbett.
maotd
02-16-2023, 11:55 PM
Change your Corbett into attack. There is no downside and as far as I know there is no specific buff for "specialized type" yet. and you can change it back anytime with not cost, no downside, no nothing.
Both Isogiku are good. Isogiku Easter is just mostly unkillable. She pretty much soloed one of the hardest Castle floor (lvl120 I guess) with just Habranthus backup (who died very early anway). She won with more than 100% HP but it was a fail though. Empty slots in a team count as dead girls in the final point calculation. But she did it.
Isogiku Formal is better as support for sure. And she would works very well with herself.
NBPEL
02-17-2023, 11:28 AM
Change your Corbett into attack. There is no downside and as far as I know there is no specific buff for "specialized type" yet. and you can change it back anytime with not cost, no downside, no nothing.
Both Isogiku are good. Isogiku Easter is just mostly unkillable. She pretty much soloed one of the hardest Castle floor (lvl120 I guess) with just Habranthus backup (who died very early anway). She won with more than 100% HP but it was a fail though. Empty slots in a team count as dead girls in the final point calculation. But she did it.
Isogiku Formal is better as support for sure. And she would works very well with herself.
About changing my unit's type attribute, I don't know if it's normal for the game to reset unit's type attribute after closing and reopening the game ? Step to reproduce:
I changed my Corbett -> Attack, Thunberg -> Support, then F5 (refresh game tab) -> my Cobertt -> Special, Thunberg -> Attack again, which is wierd for me because that's kinda annoying ?
I think I've finally figured out how to use Valentine Knotweed, because her 100% dodge ability can stack (infinitely?), so I just need to babysit her a bit so she can build up about 7-8+ stacks and she'll be able to solo the rest of the fight without teammate, she's specially strong vs multi-phase fights. I think she's a great intercept girl and could be a core of my future low HP team.
https://i.imgur.com/uRTRY1H.png
https://i.imgur.com/bNCJRQJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/S0c0WWe.png
maotd
02-17-2023, 12:19 PM
Yep. That's weird. I tested it and it doesn't save the change too. It worked before, Aeonium is set on Support type instead of default Debuff type. I guess they broke something and it may be fixed one day.
NBPEL
02-20-2023, 02:14 AM
So as expected, Hanamomo (Flowering Peach) won, this is the cinematic that I managed to grab from Firefox devtool: https://dugrqaqinbtcq.cloudfront.net/product/ynnFQcGDLfaUcGhp/assets/video/b89da46efd330451f5235ec3250ee906_bgm.mp4?o1.416.0
And we got some banner, event news, and 10k FS.
Myers
02-20-2023, 04:38 AM
Top 100 Results: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/8th_Anniversary_Popularity_Poll!#Final_Results
NBPEL
02-20-2023, 06:35 AM
Yep. That's weird. I tested it and it doesn't save the change too. It worked before, Aeonium is set on Support type instead of default Debuff type. I guess they broke something and it may be fixed one day.
Thank to Valentine Knotweed, I've finally managed to beat lv172 of the Infinite Castle, this clear is very dumb but I take it, I tried even my best team with Corbett and couldn't beat it because this level deals a ton of damage, and they're also hard to kill too because the middle one can regen 100% HP when he gets low.
I even recorded a clear video because it was dumb, really dumb stuff :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEmm7mT7AbY
P/s: And well, next levels after 172 are really easy, like 5x easier :D
And my future plan is to FG Jack in the Pulpit (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Jack-in-the-pulpit) and use her together with Valentine Knotweed, together they look like a great combo!
But now I kinda want to ask a few question:
- Should I use 36.000 FS to buy her other 4 copies to max her out because I don't know how important it's to unlock 4 equipment slots, as I don't know how much power can I gain from 1 slot to 4 slots. But I'm running low on my FS stock tho and I kinda want to get Zinnia, Adlay.
- Being an intercept girl and her skill is kinda just there, if it gives 1 stack of dodge per skill activation then I may consider but it's just damage, I do think maxing her skill activation rate won't be that big of a deal ?
- And a question about the FM The birth of a poster girl:
Increase Attack for oneself by 15% (35%).
(Increase Damage for oneself against enemies with 40% HP or more by 40%).
I did some researchs and so far Japanese players rated this FM as the best FM of the game for damage, but there's only 5 copies of this FM maximum. Should I juse use FM upgrade item "6* Memory Flower" to max them out (slowly and steady) and have 5 maxed copies of this FM ? I consider this a long-term investment.
Tomitain
02-20-2023, 07:48 AM
Top 100 Results: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/8th_Anniversary_Popularity_Poll!#Final_Results
Huh, so the usual three didn't do nearly as well as usual (Silk Tree and Pinkladies finished outside the top 20, Anemone was 15th). It looks like Licorice and Cattleya get to continue closing the gap between them and Anemone in terms of alternate versions.
maotd
02-20-2023, 02:42 PM
Silktree, Anemone and Pinkladies out of the top 10... I should return to my home world. But it's not that bad I guess.
I managed to beat the 10 new castle floors. It was pure hell. But what a fun hell. Lvl196 is easily one of the worst. Lvl200 is a nightmare but reaching over 2 billions with Corbett is oddly satisfiying. I managed to beat that but I still don't know at all how it's full heal mechanics works. I have no idea how you're supposed to beat that without at least Adlay+Zinnia+Corbett. I want to see a clear with no Ancient Knights.
I hope that new free 6* is worth it.
Congrats NBPEL. Cheap victory is still victory. Be proud of breaking the game :D *still proud of avoiding Honeysuckle full heal*
For your questions:
- Should I use 36.000 FS to buy her other 4 copies to max her out because I don't know how important it's to unlock 4 equipment slots, as I don't know how much power can I gain from 1 slot to 4 slots. But I'm running low on my FS stock tho and I kinda want to get Zinnia, Adlay.
Nope. Slots don't deserve 360oo FS. It can be good with four 6* equipement for bonuses but it's definitively better to keep your FS. Have 4 slots won't make her super hyper broken. Just a bit better.
- Being an intercept girl and her skill is kinda just there, if it gives 1 stack of dodge per skill activation then I may consider but it's just damage, I do think maxing her skill activation rate won't be that big of a deal ?
If special evasion stacks, max her skill for sure. 6* Skill flowers are not that rare. Evade and Miss have higher priority than special evasion. If you can stack it, you're virtually immortal as long as you don't fight enemies with too much accuracy buff.
I did some researchs and so far Japanese players rated this FM as the best FM of the game for damage, but there's only 5 copies of this FM maximum. Should I juse use FM upgrade item "6* Memory Flower" to max them out (slowly and steady) and have 5 maxed copies of this FM ? I consider this a long-term investment.
I fused all of them. Not sure it was the best thing to do but it's done.
To have 5 maxed copies, you need to get 20 6* FM flowers, at the small cost of 100 R-medals each. It's extremly expensive and needs a lot of time to get this. Not mentioning that you may want other FM from R-medal shop or some girls like Pavonnia.
Or you could just do something in between like keeping two or three copies and fuse the others. For two copies, you will only need 600 R-medals.
Note that's it totally useless if it's not fully unlocked. (+15% self attack is... meh).
I didn't know it was the best. I always use A single shot to cut an opening (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000115) for self ATK buff. I guess The Birth of a Poster Girl? works better when you want to insta-kill something.
And we finally got a FM with deacrese speed: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000168
I don't know how new it is but I just thought about it today. If it really decrease speed by 250, you can now get 1 speed with a team of <250 speed girls. Nice. I almost want to buy it just to try.
I also noticed Hinoki parallel academy has 300 speed instead of 4* Hinoki's 200. But not White Clover. She carry her snail speed to her 6* version, making her the absolute slowest girl (while Honeysuckle is the fastest with 820 speed).
NBPEL
02-20-2023, 07:27 PM
@maotd: Thanks, I think it's also great to be new and weak, because then the meta kinda doesn't exist for me so I can use whoever I want and even the dirtiest strategy like above clear with Valentine Knotweed, for the win :D
From this blogpost (https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/18978349.html) I think I want Usagigoke (Swimsuit) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Usagigoke_(Swimsuit)), such a great companion for my Knoweed Valentine.
Then this is my draft team composition:
- Knotweed Valentine (main interceptor/DPS)
- Usagigoke (Swimsuit)
- Jack in the Pulpit (Hit down debuff, crit buffs)
I need to find 2 more girls to complete this team. From my point of view, I think need to add more intercept girls to make this team really an intercept team, but if Valentine Knotweed can carry team DPS then I can choose a safer route with more buff girls or more avoid buff girls. Sadly this team can't really make use of a healer because having a healer will ruin Knotweed Valentine.
Eventhen I think the team in the blogpost above still has many flaws, like not being able to protect Dusty Miller (Parallel Academy) and it got a lot rough a the end because girls just keep getting knocked out.
Honestly I'm very interested in the potential of Valentine Knotweed, she looks like the future defined of intercept meta (not relying on pure dodge but relying on 100% dodge stacks), I can't wait to summon new low HP girls (I don't think Valentine Adlay is that great, and so far I couldn't find a blogpost/video about her, but I do think Usagigoku Swinsuit is a locked slot, she's just too good to not have) to make her better.
And currently I don't think there's an FM that grants chance to evade, then I believe that is another important piece that I need to keep in mind for my future plan. But I found some interesting FMs:
The Paper Ring that You Gave Me (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000147)
Pitch Black Halloween Nacht (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000169)
Myers
02-20-2023, 08:41 PM
Huh, so the usual three didn't do nearly as well as usual (Silk Tree and Pinkladies finished outside the top 20, Anemone was 15th). It looks like Licorice and Cattleya get to continue closing the gap between them and Anemone in terms of alternate versions.
To be fair, those 3 did get disqualified from obtaining a new form due to the Hall of Fame.
maotd
02-21-2023, 01:48 AM
Thanks, I think it's also great to be new and weak, because then the meta kinda doesn't exist for me so I can use whoever I want and even the dirtiest strategy like above clear with Valentine Knotweed, for the win
To be honest, even as good player, cheap strategies works and may even be the only way (hi floor 196). But that makes the game really fun. More than just sending the big guns and destroying everything.
Usagigoke (swimsuit) is nice (and you will have 100% to get her in one of the swimsuit 30FG gacha this summer).
I usually use that team with her as main intercept team: 14564 (FM are adapted for castle floor 197). sometimes I replace Purslane with regular Usagigoke for extra hit rate debuff.
They just can't die but can't kill anything with too much HP (you may hit the hidden turn limit after ~30min before killing the enemy).
For your team, Vanda (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Vanda) or Red Spider Lily (Dress of Sparkling Passion) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Spider_Lily_(Dress_of_Sparkling_Passion)) may be great for Intercept damage buff and another attacker with Red Spider Lily. Vanda allows to reach 70% hit rate debuff (even if her 50% is way too much with 60% from Jack).
As FM, you may want An enthusiastic comeback! (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000149). It cover the 10% miss needed to reach 70% (on one enemy though) and gives a good ATK buff.
NBPEL
03-01-2023, 10:52 AM
Thank god Honeysuckle Parallel is back, I need to get the most out of her :D
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maotd
03-04-2023, 09:25 AM
NBPEL> I just realized that Bluet (Rising Star) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bluet_(Rising_Star_of_the_Sparkling_Fairyland)) works pretty well with Knotweed and a evade/miss team. She don't have regular evade herself but her 100% retain HP and two special evade are great and let her survive enough to give all her buff. Works even better with Usagigoke Swimsuit for the extra special evade, extra retain HP and extra intercept.
You may want to try it.
NBPEL
03-05-2023, 09:23 AM
NBPEL> I just realized that Bluet (Rising Star) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bluet_(Rising_Star_of_the_Sparkling_Fairyland)) works pretty well with Knotweed and a evade/miss team. She don't have regular evade herself but her 100% retain HP and two special evade are great and let her survive enough to give all her buff. Works even better with Usagigoke Swimsuit for the extra special evade, extra retain HP and extra intercept.
You may want to try it.
Great idea, I'll try to improve my Knotweed team later, currently I kinda need Bluet for my Corbett team because other girls aren't that good as buffing Corbett.
Also I'm a bit curious about Solar team, yeah I read a Japanese blog article and they said Solar girls are very good and I was surprised because I thought they're meme tier at best, are Solar units really that good or did they trick me ? :D
maotd
03-05-2023, 11:29 AM
Solar team is good but needs way too much efforts. For the best result you need at least 5 maxed The Solar Blade (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000101) memory, Cyclamen (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclamen_(Flower_Knight_of_the_Seven_Flowers)) and the whole team lvl 120, full high ampule and 300% affection. Without this, damages are quickly underwhelming. Even if it works well, don't expect to kill the hardest bosses in one solar blast.
NBPEL
03-06-2023, 01:25 AM
Solar team is good but needs way too much efforts. For the best result you need at least 5 maxed The Solar Blade (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000101) memory, Cyclamen (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclamen_(Flower_Knight_of_the_Seven_Flowers)) and the whole team lvl 120, full high ampule and 300% affection. Without this, damages are quickly underwhelming. Even if it works well, don't expect to kill the hardest bosses in one solar blast.
I see, then this team require me to be a long time player even close to day 1 player to collect that amount of gacha FMs.
I recently read this article (https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/18508373.html) about Angraecum (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Angraecum), it's not just about this new unit but it's about the mechanic, in this https://www.youtube.com/embed/RJ0tVcWBhl4?feature=oembed and this video https://www.youtube.com/embed/27HQQlvg0GQ?feature=oembed they output some kind of pink damage with MAGIC prefix which is the first time I've seen this type of damage, and they seem to deal a lot of damage too, I'm interested but the team is quite limited with Roman Chamomile and Adlay too, I don't know if it worth summoning for Angraecum to try out this team later, pretty much an unforeseen future with high risk of not being able to achieve my goal.
maotd
03-06-2023, 10:38 AM
For solar FM I would say be super lucky or pay rather than play for long enough (FM are not that old). Or be smart and only unlock them with FM flower than fusing multiple copies.
Resort town, Plátano (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000036) works too and it's easier to get 25 of them but the bonus is not the same (if you don't know, only 5% solar bonus makes big difference due tu the way it's calculated (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Ability_Particulars#Solar_Drive_Effect_up))
About the pink magic damages, it's a ability shared only by Vervain and Chamomile. It disable crit but change the way skill damage bonus is calculated by making them multiplicative (like Solar bonus damages) instead of additive. Works insanely well with Cattelya and her great skill damages bonuses. Theyre were the best damaging source before Ancient Flowers and before combo hit spaming. Btw they are still the cheating answer on certain tricky castle floors.
Angraecum is just built for that kind of team. Stupidly powerful. Her only downside is her bonus targeting 3 magic allies, making really hard to use girls like Adlay, Bluet (Rising Star of the Sparkling Fairyland) or Hinoki School. You can use them but you won't have all the bonus on Cattleya.
I wanted to try Cat cymbidium more but I guess it will just be Angraecum.
There is still possibilities without Cattleya though (thanks to the article) but not without Vervain/Chamomile. Worth it girl.
And the new Persian Speedwell sounds good to use with Dendrobium (or any good Blue offensive girl like Honeysuckle for example). Especially if you manage to give her all attributes.
NBPEL
03-07-2023, 08:01 AM
Persian Speedwell looks pretty good, I think it's time for me to upgrade my Debrobium team, I think this team is falling behind compare to my Knotweed and Corbett team, current team:
Debrobium
Ume
Honeysuckle Parallel
Colchicum
Ash
I must be doing something wrong with this team because atm they aren't doing anything worthy, just Knotweed + Corbett vs world, and they team barely do any damage in the EX map of current event, they just do about 2/10 HP of mobs and then die despite being a turn 1 team too.
maotd
03-07-2023, 09:28 AM
Dendrobium will slowly fall, that normal. She handle 80% of the game by herself but is not good enough for the hardest 20%. Poor lady is too old now.
Your Dendrobium team is not agressive enough. Honeysuckle deserve her own team. I tried both of them too but it just don't work. It's better to have one main and 4 support.
Ash is not good too. She just bring Slash and Magic attribute and somehow -30% Def. You don't care about def and guts for turn 1 team anyway. I'd say she is not worth the slot.
Colchicum is OK. Ume too I guess. Her Crit buff is welcome.
Persian Speedwell will be a good choice.
Here is mine for Ex event map:
https://i.ibb.co/R2bZLwR/team.jpg
Btw, Spring Start and Cattleya are just School versions with alternative outfit. Kugaisou was here for the previous daily Ex event map to hit both Hit and Pierce.
Cattleya is nice but not optimal for turn 1 team though.
NBPEL
03-08-2023, 07:23 AM
Yeah, sadly I run out of support girls, I gotta wait for my next summon I guess and revamp my Debrobium team or just retire Debrobium and use Honeysuckle instead. I do think I have now realized what I need for my future supports:
- Pierce Attribute, I dunno but I feel like this attribute buff is very rare, I have a lot of other Slash Blunt Magic but I don't have a single one for Pierce, not even a FM.
- Hinoki if possible, I think she's probably the current second or best support of the game, she just works and gives easy buffs. No wonder why she got SS rank as support, Pierce + 200%+ atk buff is too good to not have: https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/18670568.html
I guess 1 single Common Zinnia will solve most of my support problems.
So far I now have 2 strong teams, 3rd team is so-so, and 4th team is kinda just there.
maotd
03-08-2023, 10:40 AM
For Pierce attribute, just Kugaisou. She just cost 90 FS and is good overall. Or Water Lily Bride (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Water_Lily_(June_Bride)) (currently available in the 30FS Maid Gacha). A bit less good but easy to get right now.
Pierce is the most common attribute for 5 with 7 girls. Then magic with 6, Slash with 4 and Hit with only 2 (according to the list of abilities (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Abilities), not sure if it's still 100% accurate. I don't know if it's still updated or not).
Viola is nice too for turn 1 with Dendrobium.
It's just me but I find Dendrobium way more effective than Honeysuckle. She just have higher buffs. Honeysuckle always fail where Dendrobium just make her way. Being lvl120 with full high ampule help a lot I guess.
Yeah, sadly I run out of support girls
It will always be that way cuz thats usually 80% of your team these days.
If you get Zinnia, that new tower girl Asian White Birch is real good with her.
and with Honeysuckle I use Tacca to support her and is one of my favorite teams.
NBPEL
03-08-2023, 06:07 PM
It will always be that way cuz thats usually 80% of your team these days.
If you get Zinnia, that new tower girl Asian White Birch is real good with her.
and with Honeysuckle I use Tacca to support her and is one of my favorite teams.
I feel like Honeysuckle Parallel is more like of a long fight unit than a turn 1 unit.
For Pierce attribute, just Kugaisou. She just cost 90 FS and is good overall. Or Water Lily Bride (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Water_Lily_(June_Bride)) (currently available in the 30FS Maid Gacha). A bit less good but easy to get right now.
Pierce is the most common attribute for 5 with 7 girls. Then magic with 6, Slash with 4 and Hit with only 2 (according to the list of abilities (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Abilities), not sure if it's still 100% accurate. I don't know if it's still updated or not).
Viola is nice too for turn 1 with Dendrobium.
It's just me but I find Dendrobium way more effective than Honeysuckle. She just have higher buffs. Honeysuckle always fail where Dendrobium just make her way. Being lvl120 with full high ampule help a lot I guess.
Guess I just got unlucky but recent EX maps used a lot of Pierce bosses/mobs and that hurts me a bit, but well it usually takes extra time to clear not really a big issue. I searched the wiki and found a 2 good candidates, but I guess 1 of them is limited:
- https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Yuri_Amakubo_(Exstia_Flora)
- https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Cassis
Cassis looks great and I think I have her. :D
About the current event, because the reward is pretty good but it also takes massive amount of point to buy out, I'm not sure if it's possible without playing the High-Low game and I don't know how to play that game and that may be a problem.
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Myers
03-08-2023, 07:31 PM
My waifu team for the event EX stages have mostly remained the same:
1: Bottom Nodes
2: Center Node
3: Top Nodes
https://i.imgur.com/JOKJriS.png
maotd
03-09-2023, 11:57 PM
Cassis is OK I guess. I like her and have her but I don't really use her. She is more on the waifu side than useful side. I prefer Kugaisou or Lotus for pierce but why not.
You won't be able to get Yuri Amakubo (Exstia Flora) if you missed her in her event (and you did). Collab girls never come back unless they do another collab with the same franchise like they do with Rance. The only two exeptions are Nightmaher and Anri.
About the current event, it's possible to get everything with stage only. You just need a lot of stamina potions. But they are common on world exploration I guess. You can get 3 per exploration, up to 6 times per day if you're lucky. You won't be able to get EVERYTHING from the event shop but the most important things at least. Just forget about the gold and life crystals.
If you want to play the High/Low mini-game, my best advice is always go for a pass if you can't get a 100% Win or Draw. Use the max bet and this technique and stop when the chance of getting a 100% is too low. You can "easily" get nice amount of currency. Start with small bets of 100 to understand how it works and once you can finish a game with a win, go on max bets.
Myers
03-10-2023, 04:45 PM
About the current event, because the reward is pretty good but it also takes massive amount of point to buy out, I'm not sure if it's possible without playing the High-Low game and I don't know how to play that game and that may be a problem.
14572
Do you mean you don't know how it works or don't know a good strategy? An explanation of the rules is here: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Card_Flip#High_&_Low
As for a strategy, I do what maotd said. Max bet for a game, then only guess when there is a 100% chance of being correct.
Finally got a 10000 on 196 castle. I had trouble with that.
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NBPEL
03-11-2023, 04:12 AM
Cassis is OK I guess. I like her and have her but I don't really use her. She is more on the waifu side than useful side. I prefer Kugaisou or Lotus for pierce but why not.
You won't be able to get Yuri Amakubo (Exstia Flora) if you missed her in her event (and you did). Collab girls never come back unless they do another collab with the same franchise like they do with Rance. The only two exeptions are Nightmaher and Anri.
About the current event, it's possible to get everything with stage only. You just need a lot of stamina potions. But they are common on world exploration I guess. You can get 3 per exploration, up to 6 times per day if you're lucky. You won't be able to get EVERYTHING from the event shop but the most important things at least. Just forget about the gold and life crystals.
If you want to play the High/Low mini-game, my best advice is always go for a pass if you can't get a 100% Win or Draw. Use the max bet and this technique and stop when the chance of getting a 100% is too low. You can "easily" get nice amount of currency. Start with small bets of 100 to understand how it works and once you can finish a game with a win, go on max bets.
Do you mean you don't know how it works or don't know a good strategy? An explanation of the rules is here: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Card_Flip#High_&_Low
As for a strategy, I do what maotd said. Max bet for a game, then only guess when there is a 100% chance of being correct.
Thank you! After a few loses I finally figured out and kinda mastered this game and just cleared the shop completely, I should've done this for last event too, the rewards are pretty good.
maotd
03-11-2023, 05:15 AM
Congrats phob. I remember now. This one was a real pain. I don't exacly remember how I managed to do it (something similar with Honeysuckle and Adlay with resurect I guess) but it was very tricky.
NBPEL> You're welcome :D
NBPEL
03-15-2023, 01:06 PM
So Vervain, a limited unit just made a comeback, and both her and Angraecum give Magic pink damage, from my point of view I think Angraecum is better right ? I hope I'm wrong because I kinda want to get Vervain
And this new unit Sigillaria (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Sigillaria) looks like the best debuffer ever, she alone can bring hell to the enemies, she looks really good too and she's another limited unit god damn.
That's the problem, so many limited units and summoning is also very expensive, I think I can only afford to summon 1 banner, and I still need to save my FS for Zinnia and Adlay. :(
The question is Vervain vs Sigillaria, who is the more useful unit ?
Also, I just got Tall_Stewartia_(Christmas) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Tall_Stewartia_(Christmas)), she looks okay, okay-ish or am I wrong because I saw her quite a few times in videos of Japanese players, I guess I do underrated her ?
maotd
03-15-2023, 01:56 PM
Angraecum don't give pink magic damages. Only Vervain and Chamomille can. But she works perfectly with them. Angraecum is made to be used with one of them.
I don't know who is better. Vervain based team can be the easy answer to several hard fights but is tricky to use. Sigillaria looks great, really. Reminds me the Ancient Flowers (but less broken than Zinnia or Corbett). I would say both of them are really useful.
That's a very risky bet on the future gacha but I think Sigillaria will came again sooner than Vervain. If I could only pick one, I would try Vervain and keep Sigillaria for her next gacha. But she may came really later, be outclassed during that time or we can get really good girls before that and spend even more FS on them...
There is way too many limited gacha girls and that's something I don't like at all. In the past, if you missed a girl, you could just pray to get her on regular random gacha. Or force her on special reroll gacha. But now with all thoses limited girls, if you miss them, it's dead until devs decide to bring them back, maybe in one year or more. They could remove the useless regular gacha without increased girl chance and replace it with a special gacha with only limited girls? Or just fill the limited gacha with only previous limited girls instead of regular 6*? Or just drop that limited 6* system (or maybe just keep it for very very specific girls like Ancient Flowers and special main story girls).
I don't have Tall Stewartia (Christmas) so, I don't know how good she is. I guess she is our average Crit offensive girl like Cactus, Ume, Yarrow (prison island), Dusty Miller, etc. Maybe a bit outclassed in the current meta but not trash as long as you need good crit offense.
Like maotd said, you need Vervain or Roman to enable a transform team with Cattleya or Wheat as the damage dealer. Angraecum is optional. Roman works better with Angraecum for what I have used her for. Then you just your best Skill Damage increasers and memories you can with the damage dealer.
I need to get 75 more gems together and Ill make a run for Sigillaria. Definitely will find use on hard maps for her. Seems like she's a badass version of Aoenium . Easter girls are going to be out of the question this year:sad:
maotd
03-15-2023, 03:06 PM
Wheat? Isn't it Rye (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Rye)? Wheat (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Wheat) is that blue girl with Crit turn 1 (good one with Dendrobium though).
I don't really see Sigilaria as badass Aeonium. Just as a package of all the max debuff at once. I have enough gems to go through her gacha but I hope I won't have to. But unless we got some free gems (or if there is Bunny St Paulia), no easter for me too I guess. I need to keep gems for next 30FG gacha and for golden week reroll.
Wheat? Isn't it Rye (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Rye)? Wheat (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Wheat) is that blue girl with Crit turn 1 (good one with Dendrobium though).
I don't really see Sigilaria as badass Aeonium. Just as a package of all the max debuff at once. I have enough gems to go through her gacha but I hope I won't have to. But unless we got some free gems (or if there is Bunny St Paulia), no easter for me too I guess. I need to keep gems for next 30FG gacha and for golden week reroll.
Yeah I meant Rye. I guess they both make beer:grin:
Mainly I will use Sigilaria in place of Aeonium when the need arises. Poor Aeonium, days are numbered:silly:
NBPEL
03-15-2023, 04:32 PM
Yeah, Sigillaria literally caps all debuffs which is kinda insane, her only can cover all debuffs. Being able to cap 70% Def Down is really really good, a huge DPS boost and this is another damage boost source.
I do think she's at Ancient Knights' level, with her in my team, I just need to run her and the rest I can use buffers, attackers, even defenders..., could be me only and I'm new so I may not yet understand the value of debuff vs buff vs DPS vs tankiness in endgame. Ancient Knights excel at their job, Adlay best defensive, Zinna best buff, Corbett best DPS, Bamboo best defensive, but provides less offensive than Adlay I guess?
This is hell:
https://i.imgur.com/dX4ezYy.png
I found some showcase videos of her:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RCl-CgEuxqA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=koIfpxIFTe8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRml2rTSeJM
I think she'll improve my Knotweed Valentine team by a lot, literally allows me to remove Swimsuit Angelica+Golden Lace with potential more offensive units. That's something I want to improve.
maotd
03-16-2023, 01:08 AM
Sigilaria is turn and skill act based while Aeonium is not. I think poor Aeonium still have chances to shine. Not in every single battle but she won't be forever benched like some others.
I do think she's at Ancient Knights' level, with her in my team, I just need to run her and the rest I can use buffers, attackers, even defenders..., could be me only and I'm new so I may not yet understand the value of debuff vs buff vs DPS vs tankiness in endgame.
I think it heavily depends on what you're facing and what is your team purpose. Debuff is good but kinda useless if enemies have buffs to counter that (like +100% attack on a high attack stat or +100% precision). As far as I know, debuff only affect raw stats and not stat after buff application. Buff are good if you have a good someone to recieve them. DPS works only if you can survive to deal damages and tankiness is useless if you don't have DPS behind.
I think there is not an ultimate team to win everything. I think engame is more about balancing and playing around bosses weaknesses (not type weakness but game style weakness).
And I think Bamboo excels at being meh.
Speaking of Knotweed valentine, you may want Sedul Easter (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Sedum_(Easter)). She will be available on the 30FS easter gacha. She may worth her 150 gems.
edit: I just noticed that Sigilaria has the lowest ATK stat of all 6* with only 4407 max (without centies and ampule), folowed by Bamboo's 5036. It's even below the weakest 5* ATK (Showy Baby's Breath (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Showy_Baby%27s_Breath) with 4466) and only 3 points above the second best 2* (Salvia (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Salvia) with 4404 ATK).
NBPEL
03-16-2023, 08:17 AM
Sigilaria is turn and skill act based while Aeonium is not. I think poor Aeonium still have chances to shine. Not in every single battle but she won't be forever benched like some others.
I think it heavily depends on what you're facing and what is your team purpose. Debuff is good but kinda useless if enemies have buffs to counter that (like +100% attack on a high attack stat or +100% precision). As far as I know, debuff only affect raw stats and not stat after buff application. Buff are good if you have a good someone to recieve them. DPS works only if you can survive to deal damages and tankiness is useless if you don't have DPS behind.
I think there is not an ultimate team to win everything. I think engame is more about balancing and playing around bosses weaknesses (not type weakness but game style weakness).
And I think Bamboo excels at being meh.
Speaking of Knotweed valentine, you may want Sedul Easter (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Sedum_(Easter)). She will be available on the 30FS easter gacha. She may worth her 150 gems.
edit: I just noticed that Sigilaria has the lowest ATK stat of all 6* with only 4407 max (without centies and ampule), folowed by Bamboo's 5036. It's even below the weakest 5* ATK (Showy Baby's Breath (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Showy_Baby%27s_Breath) with 4466) and only 3 points above the second best 2* (Salvia (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Salvia) with 4404 ATK).
I summoned for her because she looks so future proof, just it was another sad another bloody summon session and I'm almost out of FS atm, another 11x without getting anything useful sadly, I'll need to be careful from now on if I want to get enough summon currency for Red Flower Lily School, Swimsuit Usagigoke, Hinoki School and Zinnia + Adlay.
And not to mention Sigilaria can stun lock a target, that ability is pretty OP: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXXHSLLalOI
But well, I don't think I have enough buffers to make Sigilaria good atm, in my team she barely uses any skill so no summon debuff mechanic, it's probably ideal to give her high Act Again and high skill activation rate, as long as she can do x2 skills per turn, after that things get a lot easier because she gives the whole team 1.5x skill activation rate, but that's something I don't have enough.
From my POV best Sigilaria comp will look like this:
- Turn 1 Sigilaria x1 skill -> Act Again -> x1 skill
- Rest easy.
I think her build is pretty much the same as Zinna, just give them skill activation rate and act again.
NBPEL
03-20-2023, 02:17 AM
I have a question about the World's Flower mechanic:
https://i.imgur.com/O4wz8sN.png
Recently I awared that newer EX challenges usually have this World's Flower icon, do I need to care about it, or do I gain anything from changing my team to take advantage from it ?
maotd
03-20-2023, 11:44 AM
I think you just get damage bonus from skills if your girls are equiped with a 6* equipement (personnal or event one) with world flower typing matching their own nation and enemies nation weakness. I almost never bothered with that stuff and just brute force through stages the good old way. Even on Nation missions based on this mechanic. I don't even know how this stuff actually works.
The bonus from 6* personal equipment seems way better than the nation typing things anyway.
NBPEL
03-20-2023, 06:51 PM
Umm, I think I've missed a lot of personal equipment from this type of farm event, I can't find the place to buy those equipment: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Very_Berry_Easter
I think recent events do get harder for me, yeah I still win but it takes quite a long time per EX clear, that's why I want to improve my team to farm faster and more reliable.
maotd
03-21-2023, 01:01 AM
There is always 4 equipement per event (one of each), no matter the event type. If you've completed the farm events, you should have all the equipements. If you refer to the 6* equipements, it's just the 5* after using Aqua Crystals on them. The wiki's presentation may be a bit confusing.
You can buy them during the event reprint and buy them with no time restriction when the event entrer it's rereprint state.
EX dungeons are a bit harder since last event when it became unlimited but I didn't notice any change other than the nation typing otherwise.
I built two very poweful teams for them so, I just clear everything turn 1. But yeah, it's gets quickly boring to do the same stage over and over when it takes too long.
https://i.ibb.co/P9Xtdt3/teams.jpg
I'm definitively not cheating by using two Spring Star School :p
Spring Star School is very good in these stages. I hope you managed to get more than one. Thunberg Spirea Christmas is good too.
Then, good turn 1 with all target skills girls like Dendrobium, Pinkladies Flower Saint, Helianthus, Tritoma obvioulsy... are best choices. And various buffs to make them great. Or stack turn one attackers.
Faster is better here. Girls like Zinnia, Corbett or any other good girls who needs time to setup are not a good choice.
NBPEL
03-21-2023, 02:11 PM
I just upgraded my Corbett to lv100 and maxed out everything and it did get faster, I think I will need to save a lot of centies and they're my real gate, after saving for so long I still don't have enough of them to max out my first lv120 unit aka Corbett. Or did I farmed all the wrong place ? Recently I focused on farming Memory Dungeons, and they give pretty good rewards.
I don't know my turn 1 team can't even do anything in EX, probably need more investment but I don't think they are very useful for me compare to Corbett, and Valentine Knotweed, she turned out to be really good. I think slowly I will move on from turn 1 team and focus on something else, maybe a skill drain team.
I'm not sure about equipment upgrade, and currently that is my final source to squeeze even more power for Corbett.
And I saw a lot of posts of this blogger showing off personal weapons of Corbett and many units, is it possible for me to get those weapons ? https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/19411673.html
maotd
03-26-2023, 11:53 AM
The new 7 or 27 limited stage (available for 24h in the limited stage tab) is really good. 7 stamina, doable as much as you want and make Rainbow Shards for rarity growth easily farmable.
NBPEL
03-26-2023, 11:55 AM
The new 7 or 27 limited stage (available for 24h in the limited stage tab) is really good. 7 stamina, doable as much as you want and make Rainbow Shards for rarity growth easily farmable.
Yeah great! I was about to ask your advice about farming that stage, I want thousands of them!
It comes at the very right time, I need to upgrade quite a few 5* to try Sigilaria.
I'll just let my team farm this stage for a whole day and see :D
maotd
03-26-2023, 01:42 PM
Really easy to farm. 10~15 stamina potion should be way enough to get 500 of them. The only actual limit is real time.
I don't know if this stage will came over each 7 and 27 of each month but it would be awesome to RG a lot more 5*.
Should be able to fill up about any type of team with the RG now.
may not be perfect, but maybe good enough.
That event girl lemon grass seems pretty good buffs for a single target.
NBPEL
03-26-2023, 09:25 PM
Yeah, recent event girls are much better than many 5*s from gacha, and they add some power and uniqueness to my roster, for example I desperately need a healer and Crinum is my obvious choice, I also need a strong attacker like Tritoma, some supports with peirce attribute.. My goal is to get 20k mats.
. My goal is to get 20k mats.
You should be able to make several full teams outta that!
I'm going for about 7K for future girls.
NBPEL
03-27-2023, 02:12 AM
Kinda unfortunte because I used 10 stamina potions and was about to auto my next session and maintenance happened.
NBPEL
03-27-2023, 09:53 PM
So Obako (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Obako)got added to the Rainbow Medal shop, I think she's kinda meh for a brand new unit ? I rather spend my medals on support girls and Pavonia.
The support dry is real, after spending some time trying to find good buff girls from 5* RG, I gave up because there's a lot of them but most of them are useless.
Rabbit's Foot looks like a good RM unit: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Rabbit%27s_Foot
I should have picked Crepis (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Crepis), she looks like a really good support, but I guess it's too late.
But well Pavonia will likely be in the next rotation, finally!
maotd
03-27-2023, 11:51 PM
Obako don't looks that bad. She just lacks a bit of survivability. Her skill based buff is carried over the whole mission. Good for multiple battles. With good support, she can do the job.
R-medals girls are usually meh-tier. Obako may be one of the best with Pavonia.
For support, it depends on what you call good support. There is a lot of usable support girls but if you want Hinoki level, it's almost non-existant.
All the easter girls are very good this year. And their combo makes one of the best intercept team possible. Too bad I don't have enough gems after Sigilaria.
NBPEL
03-28-2023, 05:07 AM
Same for me, I'm in no position to chase for non-ancient girls.
But that new Easter girl with her whopping 30% Evade buff is really handy, most dodge units have 70% self evade, that 30% max them out without having to use many 10% evade+ girls
NBPEL
03-29-2023, 11:05 AM
I just got Roman Chamomile (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Roman_Chamomile), but I honestly don't understand her ability:
`[For self] After you use a Skill, for the next 7 turns, Transform into <Elegant Garment of Sunlight>`
I clicked the ? but I couldn't find any information about this ability, but from past discussions it looks like it gives pink magic damage, I hope it gives something else ? (would be great because I honestly don't have Cattleya to make use of her ability if it only gives pink damage)
I just really like her design so I decided to summon for her, this is dangerous I know because I have a feeling that Adlay and Zinnia will be in the next 1 or 2 banners.
maotd
03-29-2023, 12:41 PM
It works like Vervain special ability for 7 turns instead of 5.
First, all allies will be unable to do Critical Attacks while the owner is Transformed. Second, abilities in the party that increase Skill Damage will have their effect boosted by 10%. This affects Skill Damage abilities individually rather than cumulatively, and they instead become multiplicative with each other.
That's really good. Just stack Skill Damage abitilies and you will have a monster. Unlike Vervain, she can do things by herself. Congrats for getting her.
I don't think Adlay of Zinnia will be here soon. There is a lot of older exclusive girls we are waiting for (Vanilla, Castor Bean, Daffodil...).
I'd like to get her but I'm low on FG.
NBPEL
03-29-2023, 01:36 PM
Thanks, I just yolo'ed her without thinking.
I see, it looks like I focused too much on her special ability and forgot about her other thick self-buffs (300%atk and 150% skill damage), I'll try to use her as a damage dealer until I have enough mats to get Cattleya, I guess she can be a close-to-good damage dealer, not too amazing because her true value is probably Cattleya's support.
I just replaced my Corbett with her, so much faster EX clear and she deals a tons of damage all by herself.
Thank to her, Castle 180 cleared!
https://i.imgur.com/bEDhggE.png
maotd
03-29-2023, 11:55 PM
Congrats for lvl180.
Nice team though. Good combo with Chamomille/Bluet/Spring Star. But that Hit attribute memory on Chamomille x). You should give her something else. She already have her own attribute bonus.
NBPEL
03-30-2023, 01:33 AM
I think lv191 is my next stop, this level seems to ask me to use intercept team ? Because all direct damage do 1 damage. I don't have a truly strong intercept team yet, definitely need to wait for Usagi swimsuit or School Red Spider Lily.
Also, I have another question, this is more about the experience of using resource, in this case it's FS.
Assuming that I summoned a banner and I got the featured unit in 70 FS, should I go ahead and use 30 FS to get another copy of the featured unit or should I not ?
Well, somehow I cleared Castle 191 with this team, he is tanky but he got oneshot somehow, someway :D
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maotd
03-30-2023, 10:30 AM
I would keep my FS. It's too precious and multiple copies are not that usefull. Another equip slot is good when you have all 4 unlocked or if you plan to use 6* equipements but I'm not sure it's worth the FS.
I did get some dupes sometimes but only when I was 1 roll away from the ticket.
Congrats for lvl 191. Did you already beat the level with a 90% evasion boss and insta-kill intercept? I don't remember what floor it is.
NBPEL
03-30-2023, 11:25 AM
I see, then I'll save my FS.
That intercept level is 196, it's pretty hard but I think I can beat it but after promoting Crinum to build a real strong intercept team.
Kinda dumb but I've cleared Castle 196 with this team :D
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maotd
03-30-2023, 12:30 PM
Really nice. I don't know how is lvl 196 on normal mode but on hard mode, you can't one shot it with intercept and can't survive it's own intercept without a lot of retain HP. Really tricky fight to get the 10k pts. I had to play and pray with Adlay resurection.
The floors above are easier. Ok maybe not floor 200 but I still don't understand how this one is supposed to works.
NBPEL
03-30-2023, 01:23 PM
For level 196, I stacked a few guts, that gave me enough time to kill the boss :D
Gut is actually better than what the devs suggested us which is dodge stack.
And level 199 is done, this level is pretty painful too:
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Level 200 is 1 single boss, I guess it's time for Corbett to shine :D
And this one can revive like Honeysuckle :(
Yeah, I managed to kill it twice, but my Roman ran out of gas because 7-turn passed and she became useless again.
I found this comp, it probably doesn't need Adlay so I might want to try something like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FjL-jA6sKdw
It looks like Japanese players really like Ivy New Year, I need to consider her or Cattleya for my next 6* exchange. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MIkksv2zNTs
NBPEL
03-31-2023, 09:24 AM
I just realised that Asian White Birch is such a great support, 140% weak damage/str for pierce attacker is pretty good, plus x2 guts allowing me to buy time for a potential slow team, she's a bit restricted but that's okay I guess, unfortunately I don't really have a strong pierce attacker atm.
I think for now it's pretty much impossible for me to beat level 200 Castle, I will wait for Zinnia then comeback later on.
maotd
03-31-2023, 01:04 PM
Yep. Asian White Brich is top notch support but there is not that much really good pierce attackers. My best choices would be Anemone School, Tritoma, Zinnia. Checkerberry Easter maybe, I dont have her.
I'm done with the april fool event. Good one. As good as last year. And the final joke just killed me. I really like that small egg hunt. Less things to find but at least it somehow bring back the quiz stages. Bad answers are a good way to test strong teams.
NBPEL
03-31-2023, 02:04 PM
About the April Fools quiz event, I couldn't find the 5th salt somehow :(
maotd
03-31-2023, 02:43 PM
I don't remember all the salts but:
- on the Gogo Roulette
- on the whaleship
- somewhere in the album (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Office#Album) in the office (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Office).
and I forgot the last two.
Just check the more obscure places you never go.
Edit:
That giant slug is interesting. It's theorically killable with evasion+pursuit. If you manage to get it's 999 negate damages down, you can damage it normaly with pursuit damages. It will takes hours (way more than randomly finding all the salts) for no benefits but it's doable.
Black Locust Bride and a full team of Pursuit FM should speed up a tiny bit the process.
The slug is supposed to have 999 guts too but I guess it loose it when you got the 5 salts.
With that really long test for nothing (I got down that 999 negate damages...), I can confirm that unless all the other damages in the game, Pursuit is fix and not affected by defense. The only kind of boss able to reduce pursuit damages is the secret garden bosses and takes 1 damage from every damage source. I guess theuir damage reduction is hard coded and don't rely on defense or any other damage reduction mecanism.
I think we could use that giant slug and evade team to calculate the internal turn limit (assuming it's the same for every type of stages. It seems it's lower in the castle). But I'm not sure I want to stay for 1+ hour with a paper and count every single turn...
NBPEL
03-31-2023, 03:27 PM
Yeah, the last one is tricky, I got the other 4 pretty easily tho.
GForce
03-31-2023, 03:51 PM
For the last two salts not mentioned:
- newsletter; click top right parchment, find Nazuna to the left with it on her head
- the options tab (gear) and in the garden pots menu
Okay, wasn't expecting... that, upon using the solar blast.
maotd
03-31-2023, 03:55 PM
That solar blast just killed me. I wasnt expecting it too. Really nice april fool.
NBPEL
03-31-2023, 05:07 PM
Thanks, I didn't expect the last one can be that hard to see. I found it and nuked the giant snail.
Myers
03-31-2023, 07:34 PM
The event doesn't take too long to finish, but for anyone that hasn't: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/2023_April_Fools
NBPEL
04-03-2023, 02:36 AM
So it's possible to kill the big boy snail :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7z_CDPI4DM
maotd
04-03-2023, 10:41 AM
Bunnies. Bunnies everywhere <3. And not enough FG to get them all :(. Honeysuckle Easter looks excellent.
I knew it was possible to beat big slug but not that way. Very creative.
NBPEL
04-03-2023, 11:44 AM
Yeah, very good banner, not so much about FS situation. 12x intercept is something else because most of my units are sitting at x1.5 or x2. On top of 60% miss debuff, I think she's definitely better than OG Honeysuckle.
maotd
04-03-2023, 01:06 PM
For sure. And with that recent +30% evade for all on Easter Blueberry, it would make her even better. Disgusting.
The new Tea Tree looks cool too. I see a good potential with Asian White Birch and Knotweed Valentine. Knotweed acting as the multi-target skill guarding type and Tea Tree as the Pierce attack-type for Birch. I guess putting Birch before Knotweed would activate her 30% heal before Knotweed drop to 1%.
Effective and easy to make team (well... at least for thoses who caught Valentine Knotweed when she was here...).
NBPEL
04-03-2023, 04:03 PM
Sadly she'll be limited, no cheap 3000 FS banner for hoarders, only 5000 FS. Up to some point normal girl will probably surpass Ancient Knights' level.
No need to hurry for me because old units like Vervain will become outdated very soon, at least Roman can do damage all by herself, so it's possible to run 2 DPS comp with her and another skill damage DPS, but Vervain, not so much she can do.
maotd
04-06-2023, 12:38 PM
Free Rainbows Shards stage is back for Nazuna day. Time to build up even more Shards.
NBPEL
04-06-2023, 11:28 PM
This is such a huge game changer, because RGing 5-star units was a huge burden, especially for a new player like me, but now with this change I RG strong 5-stars like Aeonium instantly without a doubt.
But I need to find some strong 5*s to RG them, probably Crinum and some recent event 5*s.
Is it me or Crinum (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Crinum) is actually better than Soapwort (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Soapwort) ?
The thing is Japanese players use Soapwort a lot, I've seen her in so many videos. I think they rate Skill Activation Rate Down higher than Attack Down and Hit Down, that's why they rated Ivy New Year higher than Golden Lace.
Crinum is a good support/healer for Honeysuckle (Easter) though.
maotd
04-07-2023, 01:18 PM
Crinum and Soapwort are just not in the same category. Soapwort is a Support Healer. Crinum is an evasion+intercept Defensive Healer.
Crinum is good but with the recent Evasion Bunny crew, she is outclassed easily. Soapwort remains relatively unique with her Increase Damage by current HP for 5 and Skill Rate debuff. She is easy to use in a lot of team. Better or not, I don't know but she is more versatile and suffer less from broken competition. But I don't have Soapwort and I don't have room for Crinum in my intercept team :p
At this point, with R-shards so easy to get every 7 and 27 of each month, we should be able to RG almost any 5*.
NBPEL
04-08-2023, 06:24 AM
After rechecking the Danchou Medal shop for a few times, I think most items in this shop are kinda garbage, even RG stones, I guess it's best to just save 400x medals and buy Kugaisou/Knotweed, and ignore the rest ?
maotd
04-08-2023, 06:35 AM
I only bought D-tickets for 100 D-medals. Kugaisou & Knotweed can be worth-it but are extremly expensive. But now, they may be more worth it for 400 medals than 90 FG considering how precious FG are.
Everything else is garbage or way too expensive.
NBPEL
04-08-2023, 09:23 AM
Yeah, the value of Danchou Medal isn't as amazing as it sounds and its rarity (takes really long to collect, I only have 270 eventhough I started playing for quite a few months already, but I have thousands of rainbow medals (and no Pavonia to buy), or it was ? Because I think after so many changes it actually got powercrept by other items.
Up to somepoint I expect Danchou medal either gets a big buff or becomes irrelevant like RG stone.
maotd
04-08-2023, 11:44 AM
D-medals have always been that bad. It's just an extra for DMM points gacha (1 D-medal for 100 DMM pts on daily gacha) and we got some for free. Don't expect too much from them and just use them for 6* or D-tickets when you have enough.
NBPEL
04-10-2023, 04:16 AM
I just checked the new Honeysuckle banner, both 2 units look insanely strong, Honey is like perfect both world of offensive and defensive (if she crits twice, she gets 1 stack of evasion, insane), the other buffs you to the sky.
Buff girl:
[Self] Probability [Guts]: 3 times
[5 people] Defense increase: 50%, [Defense reduction rate] increase: 6%
[5 people] Attack power increase: 30%
[5 people] Skill activation rate: Each Up to 1.2x depending on the favorability of
[5 people] 50% chance at the start of battle, [Consecutive] 5% (1 lottery during battle)
[5 people] 1 time damage [Invalidate]
[2 people] 50% chance of [Critical] rate change at the start of battle: 100% (1 time during battle, random target for 2 people) [2 people
] 50% chance of [Skill Damage] increase at the start of battle: 100% (1 time during battle, 2 random targets)
[2 people] 50% chance of attack increase at the start of battle: 150% (1 time during battle, 2 random targets)
[ 2 people] 50% chance at the start of battle, skill activation rate: 2 times (1 lottery during battle, for 2 random people)
[All enemies] [Attack power reduction]: 30%
Honey:
[Self] Next turn if you are attacked, [Critical] rate change: 100%
[Self] At the start of the next turn when you [Critical] twice, [Special Evasion]: 1 time
[Self] 100 % chance of [Intercept] 12x
[Self] [Twin Strike] 15%
[Self] [Special Evasion]: 2 times
[Self] [Reaction] Rate Increase ([Release Limit]): 100%
[Self] Intercept damage increase: 100%
[self] hit rate rise: 40%
[all enemies] [hit rate decrease]: 60%
I did it, I got baited and I'm officially broke, who can I blame :(
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maotd
04-10-2023, 04:54 AM
I don't really get how Scilla works. Sounds totally random.
That's a shame they're both on the same gacha. It decrease chances of Honeysuckle.
Tomitain
04-10-2023, 03:00 PM
Needing all ten rolls to get Sigillaria put a decent dent in my FG supply so I only attempted one roll of the Bunnysuckle gacha (and struck out). I could go for broke but if I end up needing all ten rolls again that'd leave me with around 10 FG. As strong as Honeysuckle is I don't want her THAT much.
NBPEL
04-10-2023, 09:48 PM
Up to this point of the game it's safe to say the OG Honeysuckly banner isn't worth it anymore I guess ? Like she's an ancient girl, but she's worse than her bunny alt.
And I believe with OG Honeysuckle coming back, next will be Zinnia ? Finally ? :D
Time to save because they're gifting us a lot of FS, the another reason why I spent everything on this bunny banner.
Because:
Japanese Honeysuckle was added on 2022/01/24 as an exclusive unit only available in specific, time-limited gachas. These gachas ran during the following periods:
2022/01/24 ~ 2022/02/07: DMM Point Gacha and Flower Stone Gacha.
2022/08/08 ~ 2022/08/22: DMM Point Gacha and Flower Stone Gacha.
2023/04/10 ~ 2023/04/17: DMM Point Gacha and Flower Stone Gacha.
Common Zinnia was added on 2022/05/23 as an exclusive unit only available in specific, time-limited gachas. These gachas ran during the following periods:
2022/05/23 ~ 2022/06/06: DMM Point Gacha and Flower Stone Gacha.
2022/11/14 ~ 2022/11/28: DMM Point Gacha and Flower Stone Gacha.
I think I'm 99% confident this will happen, soon. :D
Could be Adlay but I didn't check her date, but neither of them are good, I don't mind but I need to truly save, gonna block the gacha screen with uBlock Origin to prevent me from clicking it.
maotd
04-10-2023, 11:54 PM
Next should be Adlay. Then Zinnia, Bamboo and Corbett. If they do all the ancient knights in a row and don't add other limited girls between.
Also, save 100 gems for the golden week reroll gacha. You MUST not miss it. Even for Adlay or Zinnia.
Original Honeysuckle is not bad even now but less good than her easter version and way below Adlay/Corbett/Zinnia. Actually, she should works well with her Easter self now. But if you don't have the gems, you shall pass.
NBPEL
04-11-2023, 04:48 AM
I think OG Honey is the 2nd lowest priority:
Zinna > Adlay > Corbett > Honey > Bamboo.
Golden Week should be this week or next week, it's April already so I need to be extra careful.
I'm a bit worry about the Gold Summon tho, my internet is very unstable, so if I roll once and get a weak 6* unit and suddenly get disconnected, does that mean that I automatically have to take that unit ?
maotd
04-11-2023, 10:20 AM
Imho Adlay>Zinnia. Zinnia is awesome and very OP but Adlay is insanly versatile. She works in every kind and style of teams (except Sun. And I'm not 100% sure with the extra survivability she brings).
For the reroll gacha, I'm 99% the game just consider you didn't keep the roll if you get disconnected. You just risk to miss a good roll. But considering what you call "good" on reroll gacha, it's extremly rare.
No gems for the Easter version. I will get her on the reprint in a few months unless somebody else better comes round.
The original and academy will have to do for awhile. Really like Corbett and Sigillaria team.
NBPEL
04-11-2023, 11:13 PM
I found a showcase of Honeysuckle Easter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yOXlll24A
Wutan
04-12-2023, 02:23 AM
@NBPEL
So the girls showcased are Honeysuckle (easter), Crepis, Tacca, Hinoki (Academy) and Dracaena right?
Honeysuckle has "The White Country's Black Rabbit"...I have none of these other 4 Girls :neutral:
But yeah Buffing Honey exclusively with Support Girls and bunch of Crit Damage makes sense.
List getting to long...Maybe i find alternatives :think:
NBPEL
04-12-2023, 02:41 AM
There's another showcase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERNNqGBXe_o
In this showcase she's used as an interceptor in a true intercept team.
Myers
04-12-2023, 04:02 AM
Btw the devs put out a team letter in the maint notes that reveals content for the next few months. Includes new unit/bloom artworks + event info.
Link (Spoiler Warning):
https://web.flower-knight-girls.co.jp/web/news/articles?id=1827&platform_type=1
Another Collaboration next week and Ivy bride looking good:grin:
NBPEL
04-12-2023, 09:16 PM
Is collab unit worth summoning for because I'm in critical state with my extreme low FS ?
Myers
04-12-2023, 10:41 PM
Is collab unit worth summoning for because I'm in critical state with my extreme low FS ?
The typical pattern for collab units is they have gimmicky abilities that aren't necessarily strong. The appeal is that they are limited time and will probably never be obtainable after their event.
maotd
04-13-2023, 01:20 AM
I wondered why we didn't had a major decisive battle event for a while. That explain why... That's a bit sad. Being time limited was a great part of the fun. I hope they will add the final boss of story part4 as limited major battle to start a new cycle and not totally drop the concept.
A huge page of the game history is turning.
Also, something is catching my eyes:
updates such as expansion of world exploration according to the progress of the main story
I wonder if that means current main story will add a new nation somehow. Maybe Kodaibana as home for the new non Knights girls?. It would be cool to make somehting with that part of the world).
NBPEL
04-13-2023, 10:19 PM
This person shared his build for Honeysuckle Easter: https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/19776488.html
His build isn't so good this time because he gives her a lot of crit, eventhough she can get 100% crit by getting attacked easily.
My opinion after using her for a while, she's a better attacker than an interceptor, that means Zinnia/Hinoki (Parallel) is the way to go.
This is what I'm aiming for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yOXlll24A
Honeysuckly can be in any team because of her 60% miss debuff.
Wutan
04-14-2023, 02:46 AM
Hmm i think i would aim for the first Team just because i have 3/5 already. I liked the team with Dracanea, Tacca, Hinoki, Crepis etc. the most from what i have seen so far but it's to much of an Investment missing all 4 Girls and most of the time i get the weaker Rainbows from Random Draws.
Hmm i don't like Pepo that much though. Have her for a long time but was never impressed by her so far.
Bought the 5000 DMM Random Rainbow Gacha 2 times and got these two:
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Mikan_(Valentine)
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Euryops_Daisy
Not impressed...Anyway i shouldnt have gambled.
@NBPEL
Maybe we should collect Showcases and Teamguide Videos like this in the Tactica Section. I will just copy your links and write it in Tactica if that's ok with you :angel:
It's really good you post these Videos cause it gives people (New and Returning like me) more insight of the Meta :grin:
What is with Scilla btw? I wonder really how to build a Team with her Random Buffs around. Maybe you have to stack the rest of the Squad with Strong Attackers?
She looks like to me like a Unit from the past targeting Random Allies even though the buffs she provides are quite nice.
NBPEL
04-14-2023, 03:11 AM
@ Wutan: Feel free to use the link above! I think showcasing videos will be great, I'm interested.
Scilla imo is just a turn 1 support, she's a good support for Debrobium I guess, the luck factor is really high though, 50%/2 allies, just gamble.
NBPEL
04-17-2023, 10:29 AM
I just read the kit of new collab girls, I think they're kinda okayish ? Okay to collect, but not worth to sacrifice my precious FS for Adlay and Zinna (expected to return in the next 2 months)
maotd
04-17-2023, 10:33 AM
It's just me or the game takes forever to load everything? It works as usual but it's slow as hell each time it needs to load something. It was fine 10 minutes before maintenance.
NBPEL
04-17-2023, 01:56 PM
Yeah, I got a few connection error trying to load the game after maintenance, but it's getting better
maotd
04-18-2023, 12:57 AM
Things are back to normal. I guess the game don't really like collab events :p
The new girls are okay but I'll pass. You mostly have to use them with other collab girls I guess (okay they could shine individually but why using one of them when you can use another top tier girl?). Event girl abilities for Slash girls with no family is nice for many old collab girls like Akane (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Akane) or Marina (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Marina_Katsuragi_(Exstia)) (too bad I missed dear Marina).
There is some fun stuff to do with them if you're an old whale with all the previous collab girls and enough money to get all of them now.
Wutan
04-18-2023, 02:09 AM
Are there atm. any Sword-Themed Girls besides the Collab Girls (which i understand never come back) who are still Meta Relevant?
Maple, Kerria, Yarrow, Pink and all the others i have known are kinda obsolete now but i could not find any Girl with a Katana or other Sword yet which is still Powerfull.
I think this is what i wish for from the Devs i guess...A new Strong non-limited Sword United.
Do you guys know when the Golden Week supposedly hits?? Will be the first time i participate in that despite me Playing on and off for 7 years lol.
NBPEL
04-18-2023, 02:30 AM
I think the only note worthy collab girl is Asahi, but she's just another intercept girl and from my experience, intercept powercreep is really fast in this game, like there's hundred of intercept girls, but they get dated real quick: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Asahi_Kuki
She's not a joke btw, very tanky with 300% HP, she can be a tanker like Isogiku Easter: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Isogiku_(Easter)
Imo I think Asahi is probably the best tanker of the game atm:
- [For self] Increase Defense by 30% and Defend Damage Reduction by 7.5% ( ? ) (7.5)
- [For 5 allies] Increase Defense by 50% and Defend Damage Reduction by 6% ( ? ) (13.5)
- [For self] After you are attacked 3x, Negate Damage 1x ( ? ) > God tier
vs Isogiku Easter only 7.5
Videos showcasing the power of Isogiku Easter: https://m.youtube.com/@user-vy9wy9vj3q/search?query=%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BD%E3%82%AE%E3%82%AF
maotd
04-18-2023, 03:15 AM
Asahi is Counter, not intercept. If she was an intercept, she would be good. But she is counter and can't juste evade hit for free negate damages. And she don't even have HP drain to work with her +300% HP.
She can be interesting though with some heavy miss like Honeysuckle easter and bonus HP drain like Spring Star School.
Isogiku Easter was my ace before I got Luluna (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Luluna_(Scaly_Hydrangea)) (and before Zinnia+Corbett burried them definitively). She is able to solo castle floor (as long as she don't miss her skill several times in a row). Too bad empty girls stlots cound as dead.
Edi: Not exactly 100% the clear I did when floor 120 was the highest but Isogiku Easter doing Isogiku easter stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC5TpBbFAmw
Wutan> I often see Garden Phlox (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Garden_Phlox) in japanese videos. There is Dracaena (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dracaena) too. And Corbett obviously even if she's cheating with Sword/Axe/Spear.
NBPEL
04-18-2023, 07:30 AM
So I just bought my last 6* exchange ticket, and I'm considering about Cattleya and Ivy New Year.
Ivy New Year is useful, very highly rated by Japanese players, but I think free Aeonium > her ?
Because I have Roman, I guess Cattleya is my obvious choice ?
So I just bought my last 6* exchange ticket, and I'm considering about Cattleya and Ivy New Year.
Ivy New Year is useful, very highly rated by Japanese players, but I think free Aeonium > her ?
Because I have Roman, I guess Cattleya is my obvious choice ?
Yes to Cattleya
NBPEL
04-18-2023, 02:23 PM
Thanks, I will buy Cattleya :D
Wutan
04-19-2023, 05:58 AM
Took a Gamble and bought the 3000 DMM Points Deal (5 Rainbows, can be dupes though).
Should not have done it honestly. It's like my Game is obsessed with filling up the Collection in Order. Means old Rainbows again.
1. Usagigoke. Only decent one in my opinion but not Breathtaking since Intercept Powercreep is insane.
2. Curcuma. Ya Nay Thanks. One of the worst Rainbows in total in my Opinion.
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Curcuma?so=search
I mean it's laughable really.
3. New Year Ivy Dupe. Ok i guess since it's one of the only Old Units which is still usable in more Difficult Content.
4. Loquat Dupe...Whatever.
5. Cactus Christmas. At least i now have all Cactus Forms i guess???
I don't know i think Rolling during the Day always brings me results like this. I should only Roll during the Night...Sigh...At least one good Unit would have been nice :frown:
@maotd
I really like Dracaenas Design and she seems like a Good Support (not as insane as Cymbidium Cat Ears and Hinoki but definetely more up my Ally in terms of Waifu Potential). Don't know if i can incorperate her in my Teams though.
Why is it btw that we need 100 FGs for Golden Week? Are we allowed to roll twice??? I might go hardcore on this, Rolling the whole Night to get finally a few Meta Units.
maotd
04-19-2023, 10:25 AM
My gacha seems cursed too. I got mainly old 6* or dupes. Old dupes. Same goes for the memory gacha.
Golden Week usually comes with a reroll gacha for 100 FG. It's a 11 roll gacha with one guaranteed random 6*.
Roll the gacha, pay 100 FG too keep the girls or reroll it as much as you want until you decide to keep and pay. It's an easy way to chase specific girls (if they are in the gacha) or get a lot of rainbow in one roll (if you're lucky).
Expect hundreds of rolls and several days to get something decent. And remember: don't be greedy.
NBPEL
04-19-2023, 12:03 PM
Did we get Golden Week banner ? I didn't see it anywhere.
maotd
04-19-2023, 12:23 PM
I don't know. It was like that the last two years. And Three years ago, the reroll gacha was for .5 anniversary.
NBPEL
04-19-2023, 04:59 PM
Haha, I've finally beaten Castle 200 :D
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Would have been much easier if I have Hinoki School, for pierce attrb
congratulations!
Hinoki (Parallel Academy) is a good one to have. I don't have her either.
maotd
04-19-2023, 11:41 PM
Congrats. Beating infinite castle is a thing. Now you can try to beat it on hard and do all the stages with 10000 pts.
NBPEL
04-23-2023, 07:16 AM
Hopefully we get Golden Week this time, the date is pretty close already, I kinda want to get some recent girls like Hinoki School/Red Spider Lily School, mostly school girls because they're kinda one level above other alts.
Gotta be greedy.
maotd
04-23-2023, 07:25 AM
Last year, Golden Week gacha was up to Halloween event. If they do the same, no school girls for us this time.
I'm looking for Hinoki & Red Spider Lily too (but not many hopes) or Dracaena and/or Twinleaf. Dracaena would be really cool. Cardamine Lyrata (Halloween) too.
Wutan
04-23-2023, 08:49 AM
My Wishlist atm is kinda long:
Corbett
Adlay
Zinnia
Cybidium (Cat Ears)
Cyclamen (Solar Blast)
Mimosa
Godetia
Crepis
Hinoki (school)
Dracaena
Tacca
I can get Mimosa and Godetia anytime. Cybidium is kinda low on Priority cause i might just use Cotton in my Future Sigilaria, Corbett, Zinnia and Adlay Squat. No Act again+ but Cotton has HP Drain and a nice Crit Buff for Corbett and i have her already.
I might whale for the new Collaberation Unit tomorrow if she is good (don't know her last Abilities yet).
For Golden week i might try to get Hinoki and Dracaena but that might be really impossible odds.
NBPEL
04-24-2023, 03:26 AM
Mentioned about Golden Week and GW is there: :love: https://web.flower-knight-girls.co.jp/web/sp/news/articles?id=1842&platform_type=1
[Campaign held at 17:00 on Tuesday, April 25]
Golden Week! Beginner Pack
Golden Week! Super Beginner Pack
Golden Week! Special Pack
[Campaign held at 00:00 on Saturday, April 29]
Addition of GW commemorative Nazuna skin
Golden Week only! Gold Gacha
Golden Week Memorial! Quest Campaign
Golden Week Commemoration! Consumption stamina 50% off
Golden Week commemoration! Acquisition gold 5 times campaign
maotd
04-25-2023, 12:24 PM
It seems it's really paid focused and I don't see something like reroll gacha. I hope they will just delay it for .5 anniversary and not cancel it. It would be a real shame.
I guess the Beginner Pack is worth it for beginners if they want to spend some money. 200 Gems and 3 free rainbows is nice.
I don't know what gold gacha is. If it's free, it will be an okay source of R-medals at least.
Wutan
04-25-2023, 12:33 PM
I got this one https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Heather_(Swimsuit) from the paid 5000 Point Gacha.
Not what is was hoping for but i think she is quite nice. Would suck though if there will be no Reroll Gacha. Just when i came back :neutral:
maotd
04-25-2023, 12:53 PM
I don't think she is that good but she is high tier waifu. I'd like to get her.
NBPEL
04-26-2023, 08:23 AM
Kinda a let down if we don't get Golden Week roll this time, I've been looking for this GW banner to improve my 3rd team with the addition of Hinoki school or even Dracanea (30% Act Again / attributes is huge).
Wutan
04-26-2023, 01:17 PM
Would have also been nice they gave us a Dmm Point Deal for 5k where you can actually *choose* your Rainbow. All these Random Gachas are not really Golden Week worthy.
Got this one for 2k: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Silk_Tree_(Parallel_Academy)?so=search
Yay or Nay??? Looks good on Paper i guess but it won't fit into any of my planned Teams. Sometimes i think i won't get one fully proper Team full because i get like "pieces" for other Sqad Ideas. I need to focus on the Rainbows i planned and not get distracted.
I rolled a few times for the new Event 6* Yesterday but got like https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Fennel_(Hotspring_Yukata)?so=search instead. Only thing i need for Cattleya/Vivain would be Cardamine (Halloween) and Bluet (Rising Star of the Sparkling Fairyland).
@Maotd
i was afraid you would said that at Heathers Performance:frown:
Well yeah i like her Looks and especially her voice lines a lot. Nice Waifu indeed and i am all for Mature Beauties anyway :love:
Edit:
Hmm she is in a Nice Team with Garden Phlox posted a while back my NBPEL but for this one i miss Rainbow Rose (Swimsuit), Adlay, Rose (hotspring Yukata) and Garden Phlox.
NBPEL
04-26-2023, 02:33 PM
Silk Tree (Parallel) is a good support for Sigilaria, she alone gives 50% act again, that's a huge amount of team act again.
Wutan
04-26-2023, 02:42 PM
@NBPEL
Yep i thought about this one as well and read your post a few weeks back that you consider her as well but my Plan is to just stack all the Ancient Knight. Zinnia, Sigilaria, Adlay, Corbett and either Cotton (cause i have her already) or Cymbidium (Cat Ear). Until i have that Team full i might somehow throw Silk Tree in there. Silk Tree (Parallel) is one of the better Rainbows i got for sure and i am happy about Heather too.
Just it opens up a new can of worms cause now i kinda want the Team with Garden Phlox :think:
never noticed they buffed the Nazuna day quest rewards, good thing Nushi missions cost zero stamina.
maotd
04-27-2023, 03:36 AM
There is also 24h limited stage for 7 stamina with guranteed 1-10 Rainbow Shards. Perfect to get thoses Nazuna quest rewards easily.
NBPEL
04-27-2023, 08:53 AM
I think Vanilla is kinda meh: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Vanilla
I guess she's an easy skip.
FS rewards from current event and from the Centipede+Bloodmoon mode are really huge, I've managed to save a lot of FS and that makes me want to summon for something.
maotd
04-27-2023, 12:31 PM
Vanilla seems good. With Tacca and the other weakness damage+ she would be nice. She is basically a 100% critXweak on everything with weakness. Good brainless attacker. She was better when she came out though. Power creep you know.
I'd like to get her but I have to save gems for the next non knights girls announced on last main story chapter. I don't know why but I guess they will be as mandatory as Ancient knights.
Nazuna day sepacial stage granted me 3894 R-shards for basically half day of afk grinding. I don't really have worth it girls to use them on but that's nice I guess.
Wutan
04-28-2023, 05:42 AM
What are your guys thoughts we do a new 6*Tier List? (RG Units excluded cause there are way to many of them but Certain RG Units which deserve it could end up in our Tierlist. Looking at Aeonium for example or Solomon's Seal etc.)
Since it's so many Rainbows by now we could vote them a bit faster. Like only writing your Verdict (S,A,B,C,D and even E) and maybe a short Explanation if you want. We would exclude Waifu Factor this time though cause it complicates things more. As always we would try to exclude Bias and i am quite Good in that by now. For Example i would give Maple or many old Rainbows for that Matter a D-Tier.
What's your opinion guys? I miss this Discussions we had in the Old Days a bit.
S-Tier = God Tier
A-Tier = Awesome Tier
B-Tier = Good Tier
C-Tier = Meh-Tier
D-Tier = Bad-Tier
E-Tier = Scrap-Tier (might sound harsh but there are a few Units by now not deserving even the Rainbow Colour)
NBPEL
04-28-2023, 07:49 AM
Mine:
S+: Adlay, Zinnia
S: Corbett, Easter Honeysuckle, Hinoki School, Sigilaria, Cat Cymbium, Sping Star School
A: Pavonia, Roman
I guess B, C, D can easily be determined by their number of skill and quality of skill, those with 4-5 skills 8%-15% belong to D, more than 4-5 skills C, and better B
Wutan
04-28-2023, 09:38 AM
I would make a new Thread for this if at least 5 people (me included) vote and are interested.
Maybe you, maotd, Volarmis, Meyers, phob, a few others and me.
Sadly i don't see Raine posting here anymore but he still plays. I don't know how many of the Old Guard are still out there reading this Forum (besides the ones posting here of course)
The First Batch of 100 (or less?) Rainbows, people would have time voting for about two weeks. Then we continue with the Next Batch and we start from the Very Beginning.
Yep i agree :)
You made an important distinction when you said quality of Skills.
Some Abilities are just better than others. Skill Damage UP, Weakness Damage UP, Combo hit, Act Again, Maintain HP, Negate and Crit are very usefull. So when a Unit has more Usefull Abilities but less Abilities than another Unit i would not automaitcally vote the Unit with more Skills higher. It depends really.
Also it's niece when a Unit for example makes it possible to reach the Cap of Debuff, Miss Rate Up or Skill Activation Down on it's own. That way you don't have to deploy a second Unit of this Type but you can instead focus to bring another support with different Abilities.
That's the reason our Sigilaria is so good :wink:
Wutan
04-28-2023, 11:34 AM
Is there a Point doing this:
14644
I mean is there an actual Chance getting Rainbow Units out of it?
11 Million Gold got me one Rainbow Pot with a High Attack Ampule and one Gold Unit.
If there are no actual Rainbow Units in it then it's kind of a waste of money and i should rather farm the Gold Stage now and ignoring this Gacha, right?
NBPEL
04-28-2023, 11:53 AM
Is there a Point doing this:
14644
I mean is there an actual Chance getting Rainbow Units out of it?
11 Million Gold got me one Rainbow Pot with a High Attack Ampule and one Gold Unit.
If there are no actual Rainbow Units in it then it's kind of a waste of money and i should rather farm the Gold Stage now and ignoring this Gacha, right?
Yeah, kinda disappointing I expected something better like 10.000FS banner.
I spent about 40mil, absolutely nothing.
maotd
04-28-2023, 01:11 PM
@Wutan: I'm in. But at least 5 people seems a lot considering we are like 6~7 "actives" users.
I miss that good old time too. Especially right now for some kinda obvious reasons. I can't promise it won't be totally unrealiable and inaccurate ratings
but fun is the most important.
About the gacha and the whole Golden Week stuff... I'm sorry guys. It's absolute total trash :(. Last year, we got the good old reroll gacha and a special gold shop (extra++ expensive) with good items like 50 Gold tickets, 50 R-shards tickets and more.
I wasted 5M on the 100 roll just to try, nothing good, nothing worth. 1% gold item and 0.1% rainbow item is just scam. And you can't even get R-medals from dupes. Kinda reminds me the dark ages of Nutaku. That's not good. I won't put another gold coin on this gacha. For 100 coins-1 roll I'll say okay. that's bad but fun. For 50k, no thank you.
I like the game. I'm sorry for devs and the team, but I hope they will get some backfire and change their mind for the .5 anniversary.
I'm really salty right now. Not really because I miss a good occasion to get free rainbows or fill my 5* collection. Golden Week was a nice time of year to play the game and get some thrill and sparkles but there is only deception this time.
NBPEL
04-28-2023, 01:16 PM
@ maotd:
I believe "modern" people prefer Facebook/Twitter over forum like us "ancient" people. There's a few fanpages of Flower Knight Girl on Facebook but I don't want to use them because Facebook/Twitter is for showing off, not for sharing knowledge (and I see through that very clearly), I don't learn anything useful from reading their posts, forum is more useful for me.
In this forum I learn how to play the game and learn about the mechanic, if I begin my adventure with the starting point being Facebook/Twitter of FKG, I probably won't reach this far.
Wutan
04-28-2023, 01:47 PM
@maotd
Yeah i scrolled yesterday through our old 6*Rating Thread. It's like 5 years since then and a lot has changed over the years. I mean i won't analyse any Details either like make a Spreadsheet who has the Highest Stat Roll and rank that or anything like this :wink:
I totally lost track how much Rainbows there are. Like over 1000 for sure!!!
Yep Fun is the most important part and i can't promise my Ratings are 100% accurate but i try my best. Since it's so many Units by now i think we should focus first getting a lot of the Old Units out of the way so we catch up and maybe write for the first few Batches only a short Verdict about each Unit. I will start the Thread this Sunday but if you or any of the forumers have any Rule Suggestions i am more than happy to hear them.
About the Gacha....Sigh...It's atrocious and i feel scammed. I stopped after 25 Million cause i thought maybe there is a 0,5% chance to get a Rainbow Unit. If that would be the case i would roll the Gacha like crazy. Guess i was "lucky" and at least hit the 0,1% for the Rainbow Pot lol.
Even the Paid deals were not that special. I mean for Beginners it was high value but for 5000 DM Points i kinda expect that i can actually choose my Unit i want.
Well if they won't do the Reroll Gacha then i am closer to the 500 Flower Gem Goal when Adlay comes back i guess.
I am also dissapointed. I was excited cause it would have been my first time really participate in Golden Week Reroll Gacha and we could have made a Thread about it again and have fun seeing the results :frown:
I get bad Nutaku Flashbacks erghhh.
@NBPEL
Yep this forum helped me a lot back then to navigate the DMM Interface and people here were always helpfull sharing knowledge or translating for me certain things. Then there were the fun Salt Packs we did and it was fun complaining about Nutaku and comparing it to the Golden Gral which is DMM Flowerknight Girl.
I am happy this subforum still exist really and people visit it. Sadly not many write here anymore than before.
I am with you. I don't use Facebook or Twitter or anything like that. It's often times a lot of bling bling but not much substance.
maotd
04-28-2023, 01:52 PM
I feel like Discord replaced forums for most people more than Facebook or Twitter. But that works too.
I don't really like Discord (or Facebook or Twitter). Not a bad thing but I prefer the calm pace of forum instead of the perpetual flow of Discord or think kind of active chat things.
I'm glad you learned things here. I don't know if it was good things but that's good to have some buddies around.
@Wutan: I won't go as deep as in the old rating. I leave the deep analysis to the japaneses guys. I'll just rate them by my standards or based on how they helped me lately.
I think we should brush all the old 6* (and notable good rarity growth) up to 2020 fast. Not that much girls deserve real attention there I guess.
And I don't have any special rules. I'll leave it to you :)
That bad gold gacha is even more surprising when you see how they made good stuff more accessible lately. Just see the reworked Nazuna days with awesome rewards...
If they wanted to play on the gold side, they could just have done daily 10 roll gacha with 100% 5* for 1M. It would have been nice for R-medals, dupes, collection and give a purpose to the x5 gold campaign...
Myers
04-28-2023, 04:13 PM
I have about 250M Gold, so I'll try doing the x100 roll a few dozen times.
I would make a new Thread for this if at least 5 people (me included) vote and are interested.
Maybe you, maotd, Volarmis, Meyers, phob, a few others and me.
Sadly i don't see Raine posting here anymore but he still plays. I don't know how many of the Old Guard are still out there reading this Forum (besides the ones posting here of course)
I wouldn't be the best since I've never really paid attention to abilities, I primarily use units based on looks. My team compositions for difficult stages have just been something like over and over again:
https://i.imgur.com/JOKJriS.png
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