[Chat Chit] DMM FKG

[phob]

I just tried a 10x
Not impressed with this stuff.:frown:
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The devs thought this would be better than reroll gacha? They are nuts.
Cant find any win percentages. Methinks Ill set this one out

Myers you got so much gold, you might actually get something good out of this. It felt like it will take a hundred million to seriously challenge.

[maotd]

@Phob: The rates are in the GW annoucement:

■ゴールデンウィーク限定！ゴール� �ガチャ


販売期間：4月29日(土)00:00～5月8日(月) メンテナンス開始前まで

ゴールデンウィークを記念して、ゴ� �ルドでプレイ可能な「ゴールデンウ� ��ーク限定！ゴールドガチャ」を開始 いたします。
こちらのガチャではキャラはもちろ� �、各種アイテムも獲得可能となって� ��ります。

【ラインナップキャラクター】
　・2022年5月2日(月)までにプレミアム ガチャにラインナップされた★2～6キ ャラ

【ラインナップアイテム】



【各レアリティの出現確率】
　・★6　0.10%
　・★5　1.00%
　・★4　5.00%
　・★3　12.00%
　・★2　30.00%
　・★1　51.90%

【必要なゴールドの数】
　・1回引く
　　　必要なゴールドの個数：50,000� �
　・10回引く
　　　必要なゴールドの個数：500,000� ��
　・100回引く
　　　必要なゴールドの個数：5,000,00 0個

【注意事項】
・本ガチャにおいては、すでに所持� �ている★5、6キャラクターがガチャ� �ら排出された場合でも、
　虹色メダルは獲得できません。
In short:
[Appearance probability of each rarity]
・ ★ 6 0.10%
・★5 1.00%
・ ★ 4 5.00%
・ ★ 3 12.00%
・ ★ 2 30.00%
・ ★ 1 51.90%
It could be okay if it was girls only. But 0.1% for 6* stuff filled with useless items is no. Even if you get the super rare 0.1%, what are the odds the it will be a girl and not an item? Seems there is no details about that.

Anyway, we got 5oo FG x2 and 30 world exploration potions. I guess it's apologies for the catastrophic GW?


@Wutan: I don't know the caracter limit per post on this forum. I think you should keep the firsts 4-5 comments on your ranking thread for the recap list.


Edit: Okay, we need 4 bilions gold for the new danchou title. That *5 gold campaign is the only chance to reach it. With 2.53M max per gold dungeon, it could be possible. Challenge accepted.

[Wutan]

@maotd

Wait even i might out myself now as total noob but i thought the best way to farm Gold atm is Zakuzaku Gold Rush (Second Tab, Third to last)
Maybe i forgot it cause i didn't play for so long but is there something better for farming???

Yep i will keep the first 5 Posts. I think we have now 1025 Rainbows.

@Meyers
About the Auto-Sell of 4* and the like:
Hehe don't worry i know this. There is another reason i keep it on for Rolls but it's more Superstition based on my part...

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Also in General in Case i missed something:
There is still no way yet reliably farm High Ampules except the Warehouse and Events right?
And Memory Seeds for FMs are only obtainable via Roulette and also Warehouse in general?? Wasn't it like that you could get them once upon from the Memory Stage or is my Memory clouded here?

[maotd]

Yep. Advanced Zakuzaku Gold Rush missions are the best I guess. Usually it's not worth it but right now, 250k gold for 20 stamina is very nice. Teh other good sources (but not farmable) are the free 150k each day and the 210k packed with 3 stamina potion on world exploration.
It's crazy to try the 4 bilions but at least, it would give me enough gold to waste on that stupid gold gacha.

High ampules are still not farmable. You can get them on world exploration (limited to 2000 of each), weekly quests, various campaigns or in the warehouse. the best source was Rose Medals but I don't know if the shop will be refilled some day. I guess we will know May 1st.
Same for Memory seeds. Not farmable. The only """farmable""" source is from event raid bosses. You can get 100 of them sometimes. And the best way to get them is luck on gogo roulette I think.
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think they have been available in memory dungeons or any other mission. Or just limited specific missions maybe. Not even sure.

[Wutan]

@Maotd

Thank you a lot for clarifying that for me. Then i didn't miss anything which makes me happy on one side but it would really be nice they finally implement a Way farming these High Ampules. It would make the process building teams much much faster.

What kind of Rewards do you usually or others go for in terms of World Exploration btw???

I usually opt for the Petite Centy, Stamina Refill Pot or the High Ampules.

[Myers]

Myers you got so much gold, you might actually get something good out of this. It felt like it will take a hundred million to seriously challenge.

Did about 2 dozen rolls, most interesting thing is ~50 Petite Oath Hearts and 2 RG Crystals.


@Meyers
About the Auto-Sell of 4* and the like:
Hehe don't worry i know this. There is another reason i keep it on for Rolls but it's more Superstition based on my part...

Fair enough :P.


What kind of Rewards do you usually or others go for in terms of World Exploration btw???

I usually opt for the Petite Centy, Stamina Refill Pot or the High Ampules.

High Ampules > Petite Centies > Stam Pots > Equip Materials

I've actually reached the maximum Petite Centies you could get (2000) a while ago, despite not prioritizing them.

[maotd]

What kind of Rewards do you usually or others go for in terms of World Exploration btw???
High ampules>Specific Girls>Stamina potions

I maxed petite centies too a while ago. Currently I'm chasing Blossom Hill girls for dupe Pincushion and Persian Speedwell.

[Wutan]

Ok thank you guys. Then it's not that different compared to me. I often times just do the less Rarity Stages as well if the Rainbow ones don't hold anything i am interested in.

Do you guys btw. know what the Chance of possible Rainbows are and how much the Rarity Up Arrows this effects???

[maotd]

No idea on the rainbow rate. I don't even know if it's a know value or another hidden stat. It's rare for sure but I managed to get like 4 or 5 since they added world exploration.

[Wutan]

Hmm ok maybe i do these World Exploration also at night then.

In terms of good RGs atm it's basically Solomons Seal, Pincushion, Durantha Easter and omg Persian Speedwell is insanely good :love:
Thank you for pinpointing me to her cause most of my Best Attackers are like Blunts anyway and Pavonia would appreciate these buffs :grin:

What is your opinion about Heart Tree btw?

I thought about switching it up sometimes between the following Teams:

Sigilaria, Corbett, Adlay, Zinnia and Cotton (Standard)

and then...

Heart Tree, Momiji Suzakuin, Adlay, Zinnia and Cotton.

I think since Momiji has good increased Intercept Damage a pure "Hit Rate Debuff" support would be better than Sigilaria here cause she debuffs Skill Act as well and since my Cotton has Provoke FMs i kinda want the Enemy to activate it's skill and hit the entire squad more often :think:

[maotd]

In term of RG I'll say Lilac Squirrel, Jack-in-the-pulpit, Pincushion, Persian Speedwell, Crinum and above all Tritoma. But Tritoma is Event girl and her reprint is already over. There is others nice girls but thoses are the most interesting I guess.

I think Heart Tree was really nice when she came out but now, she joined the others as okay-debuff-girl-but-not-top-tier. Still usable but won't do miracles. She lacks way too much tools. I think honeysuckle easter is a better miss debuff (but a really poor support). Jack-in-the-pulpit might works better with Cotton for the Crit side.
But Maple with intercept?

[Wutan]

Oh i should have specified.
I mean Her:
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Momiji_Suzakuin

She is also called Momiji and her Attack is also "Maple Flower Based". I don't know i always liked the Image of Maple Flowers or Sakura Trees and Samurais. That's one of the reasons i really wanted her and i think she is a good Unit overall. Not broken but for me she is B-Tier or even B+.

Omg :love:
Jack in the Pulpit is better for my purposes. Yeah. That way i wouldn't have to use two FMs with 15% Crit Hit Rate :grin:

I will put her on my list and write me the notable RGs down. Thank you a lot maotd :)

Yeah this way i can easily also save up for Crepis if i don't go with Heart Tree.

[NBPEL]

Pincushion

She's a good if not the best teammate for Bloss comp, she+Bloss+Corbett/Twinleaf = unkillable, 100% skill activation rate and makes full use of her 100%HP passives.

Review: https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/18737260.html

Performance is very high, no dangers, no risks.

I want Pincushion but somehow she've managed to avoid me, just 1 copy and that's enough.

[maotd]

@Wutan: I see. I totally forgot about her. It's not like she was from the current event... haha. Jack in the Pulpit is definitively the go to for her. Sadly, she is a 2022 girl. I think we don't have access to 2022 5* ticket yet. It would have been an easy way to get her.

I'm currently at 505M gold. And I already got 3 levels. It's slower than expected. I didn't though I could get to it in one day but I'm not sure I can reach the 4 bilions before x5 gold bonus' end.

[NBPEL]

Actually, with the half-stamina campaign, should I farm gold or ampules ?

[maotd]

Both. Gold farms absurdly fast (as long as you don't aim for 4B). You can expect ~2k-2.5k for ten stages. Do it for a day and you will be rich for ever. Then, switch to amplues. You will get gold too in the process.

[Myers]

Nice wife

https://i.imgur.com/vuAkwBx.png

[maotd]

Sister Angraecum? She is nice for sure.

[Myers]

Sister Angraecum? She is nice for sure.

She does have that same aesthetic.

[maotd]

Oh. That's a new girl actually. But yep, same style. I understand why you picked her ;)
I'm not that much into sisters but Crown of Thorns looks great.

[Wutan]

You guys also have problems logging in? Seems like the site is overburdened with traffic. Is today a new Release of some game or something?

[maotd]

Loggin on the forum, DMM or FKG? It's all fine for me.

[Wutan]

Dmm...I always get this Login Error and the Translator says the Site would be congestet atm.

Here:
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[maotd]

Weird... Did you tried rebooting your computer? Clearing cache?

[Wutan]

Yep it worked. I cleared Cache and Cookies and now it works again :sweat: <br />
Thank you :) <br />
<br />
I was able Hitting the 0,1% of that horrible Golden Week Gacha three times btw. and i got each of the High...

[NBPEL]

Yeah, the chance of getting rainbow is already low, and it's near impossible to get something good becuse they're bundled with trashes like High Ampules.

[maotd]

I'm glad it worked :)

I didn't tried the Nutaku-like gacha again yet. I'm still working on the 4 billion gold title. Almost halfway.
I though more about this gacha and who could be the target of it. I think it's just a way to use gold for players with already several billions. It's pointless but at least, it gives a purpose to use all that unused gold accumulated over time. It's still the worst gacha ever, especially for a Golden Week.
I see two ways to fix that: Decrease rainbow rates and get rid of all thoses items or keep the rates and items and lower the gacha to 100 gold each. New player can get nice stuff, advanced players can spend gold for 6* and rares items and big whales are already over stuffed to care about one or two more 6*.
But it's still one level of greed below Nutaku. Thoses guys managed to sell 2* Mint at some point :D

[Wutan]

How did you manage this though??? :think:
You must have hoarded a lot of Stamina Pots and Skip Tickets over time right???
Cause i run it as soon as enough Stamina is refilled but i am just at 250 Million. Well to be fair i farmed the Ampules yesterday extensively :sweat:

I tried it yesterday i think with 12 Million Gold but after getting only an Ampule again i won't touch it anymore.

Ah yes i forgot the "Mint Incident". How much was that back then?? 10$ i think even??? This was nuts. It's a shame really cause they had a "Gold Donkey" on there hand and i still think if FKG in the West would have been handled by a less greedy and more competent Team it could still run to this day...

[maotd]

I still have over 3k stamina potion. I guess I started with more than 3.5k. I almost never use them. Only when I really need them of when there is huge stuff to farm like that or like Nazuna Day special stages. I still have over 5k skip tickets for the same reasons (well, I still use them for regular stages but it's not that much actually). I try to same them for the last burst if I ran out of time. Even if I usually do a tiny burst each day to reach the 500M/day goal.
All that gold came mainly from afk farming with over-specialised team. One ally team with 1000~2000 speed and 4 teams of 1 girl with >800 speed (Red ginger+all the Honeyshukle variants). Speed save time during stage, low number of girls save loading time. I'm back to work tomorow though. It will be hard to get 1 billion during that time.
That's a really crazy goal for sure but it's kinda fun actually.
edit: 2 Billions and 29 Millions! Half done and still over 5k ticket and 3k stamina potions.

I think them sold Mint for 1~2$. She was very cheap but anyway, you can get her for free after 5 minute playing. Best scam ever. But yeah, Nutaku ruined everything with greed, bad management and don't-care-at-all. I'm pretty sure too FKG would be still great on west side with DMM level of management. And I'm sure most player just droped the game with it's death or due to Nutaku greed.

[NBPEL]

Greed and bad managemenet is killing games exported from Japan honestly, if you've heard about Princess Connect, Crunchroll ruined this game and many games too, most exported games from Japan got killed by bad management from non-Japan companies. They're given oppotunity but they ruined it but in the end ruined the whole chance of us getting a lot of high quality gacha games.

Only a few managed to survive, FGO because it's a huge IP, doesn't need the publisher to be decent to survive.

[Tomitain]

Yeah, I don't have much faith in Nutaku when it comes to games exported from DMM. Mist Train Girls has been around for over 2.5 years now and tends to be in the top three at least once per event when it comes to DMM/FANZA's popularity rankings. It's had multiple crossover/collaboration events (Walkure Romanze, Taimanin, qureate Games, Maitetsu, etc) as well.

Instead, the English version on Nutaku and Johren was consistently stingy with f2p content, had dodgy translations and typos, and didn't make it to the one-year anniversary before getting put on life support (started up August 30 2021, stopped updating July 1 2022, went into 'maintenance' March 31 this year).

[maotd]

https://i.ibb.co/H7Lz6k9/4-Billion-Gold.jpg
Craziest and hardest thing I have made in this game.

[Wutan]

@maotd

Congratulations!!! :) This must have been a chore to do.
I didn't even came close to this. Well i lack the ressources.
...And i thought managing two Accounts and running Gold and Ampule Maps over and over again was bad but what you did there is dedication :cool:

Let's hope the next special occassion like Anniversary is a bit more exciting and colourfull cause i felt the last 1 1/2 weeks were a bit boring in the Game.

Today finally this GW Banner will vanish :bgrin:

[maotd]

Thanks :D
It was a chore at the end. At least, until the last 10M. At this point, it was exciting to get this close to the ultimate goal. It was my one and only chance to get the hardest title (I hope. No GW like that again. Please).
On one hand, I'm glad I did it. But on the other hand, it was really dumb and pointless and I regret being stupid enough to come with that idea. I guess I felt in that obvious trap with a "TRAP" sign on it.

After that, I spend 500M on the cursed gold gacha. No 6*, a few pointless dupe 5* due to lack of R-medals on this gacha, and a tons of useless stuff. I just got 4 High ampules, 2 Rainbow Shards, 1 Rainbow Elixir. The only "worth" things were the petite oath heart.
Now I can say it, it was definitively the worst gacha ever made in this game (and maybe in every game ever made).

I really hope they don't mess 1/2 anniversary too. I'm a bit tired after grinding to hell and I need some sweet refreshing stuff.

[phob]

Congrats on getting your gold:grin:
I stocked up 100 million or so, thats all. Hopefully we see the reroll gacha again someday.

The new limited girl looks good. Unfortunately I am still low on gems.

[Myers]

https://i.ibb.co/H7Lz6k9/4-Billion-Gold.jpg
Craziest and hardest thing I have made in this game.

Congrats. I didn't bother doing that, instead I just farmed the World Flower Power Dungeons for 6* Aqua Stones.

[Wutan]

Do you guys also think the Devs are a bit biased towards making especially Blunt and Magic Girls powerfull?

I don't know i look at Pavonia, Honeysuckle + Easter Version, Sigilaria, Cattleya, Roman Chamomille, Vervain, Adlay, Khebri, Hinoki (school), Tacca, Cymbidium (Cat Ears), a lot of RG 5* which explicitly buff Blunt Girls etc. and feel like there is a slight imbalance.

Notable Girls in the Pierce Category on top of my Head are only Zinnia and Tritoma and for Slash Types i can only think of Corbett, Garden Phlox and maybe Dracaena which are at the Top of the Food chain.

I wish they would release a Buff girl similar to Tacca Chantrieri but this time for Slash or Pierce Types...

https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Tacca_Chantrieri?so=search

[maotd]

Yeah. I guess you're right.
Buff for pierce is Asian Birch. She is not as good as Tacca though.

Khepri looks good but she needs a ton of Crit+react buff. I don't know if she will be top tier or just good and usable.

[NBPEL]

Not so many good Pierce girls imo, the best is definitely Zinnia and Tritoma, rest aren't even close.

Khepri is okay I guess but nothing about her looks broken, she needs both crit and act again to be good.

Currently Pierce Attribute buff + Slash/Blunt girls is my way to get good Pierce attackers. That means Hinoki school will be really important for me to get.

[maotd]

It's me or since event 214 all the event equipement are the same?

[NBPEL]

I guess Bamboo is back ? :D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IQLwjd5mJOs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=97pPtw1cZC0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=klV6vfH3prY

Bamboo + Khepri + Sigilaria.

[maotd]

I'm not really convinced. I don't understand what Bamboo is supposed to do here. Looks like it works but it looks like it would work without Bamboo too.

[Wutan]

Maybe it's just the Showcasing of the "Summoning Theme". I am usually a bit more forgiving when it comes to grading Knights but i have to say "Bamboo" is really really underwhelming considering it's a Limited Unit. I mean she is only about buffing Defense and a bit of Attack. When i look at Adlay, Bamboo's Skillset is really laughable.
I think she would be better or more interesting when she would get Super Counter as an Ability cause then she could actually use her own Defense Buffs (especially the one which gives her 100% each turn while summoning) for contributing Damage.

It's the only Ancient Knight i am not really interested in.

Wouldn't it be better incoperating Silk Tree (Academy) in a Team with Khepri??? or even this one https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Liatris?

I hope them not releasing Equipment with different Aesthetics doesn't have anything to do with saving up money in the Artwork Department :neutral:

[Myers]

It's me or since event 214 all the event equipement are the same?

Each event had a set of 4 equipment with different abilities and Nation bonus, though they have the same artwork.

Ev 216 - Lotus Lake
Ev 215 - Bergamot Valley
Ev 214 - Lily Wood

[maotd]

I mean same name, same artwork, same stats. Only the nation changes but don't seems to match the current event nation. That's weird and "event" equipement feels very disconnected to actual event.

[Tomitain]

One thing I've noticed recently is that some of the newer Knights are missing voice clips for things like gaining stamina when already over the cap (during an exploration, using a stamina potion, etc) or clicking the second-to-last gacha tab when the normal seed gacha is the active/visible one.

[Wutan]

I decided roll the New Deal which released today with newer Girls (5000DMM Points, 2 times able to Roll).
I was hoping i would also get Jack in the Pulpit but didn't work out.

First draw gave me this:
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I don't care for her that much and i think she is not a good Unit but what would you say??? Her Abilities seem all over the place even though the Defense Debuff for the HIghest Def Enemy seems nice. Maybe i underestimate her.

i was already throwing the towel and thought it would become a Disaster and then this Beauty showed up :kiss::love:
I wanted her anyway. She might not end up in the Top20 Roster (don't know yet...depends if i go the Garden Phlox or Honeysuckle Easter Route) but this kinda saved it for me :grin:
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[maotd]

Saffron School don't looks that good but she is a School version. They tend to be good in general. i guess she can have niche uses. She would be better with Counter. I hope we will get someone who gives counter to allies one day.
congrats for Dracaena. She is cool. I wanted to get her on the GW reroll gacha. If we had a reroll gacha.

Jack-in-the-Pulpit is from 2022. You can get 2022 stones on Castor Beam and Khepri gachas on the 55th roll if you really want her.

[Wutan]

Thank you a lot Maotd :grin:

Yeah i agree. I think Counter in General should get more Love and a bit more Support cause for Intercept we have enough options by now in my Opinion.
Yep i wanted to get Dracaena also on the Reroll Gacha or Japanese Anemone (Swimsuit), Bluet (Rising Star of the Sparkling Fairyland) or Cadamine (Halloween).

Ok i found out something interesting. This Team with Khebri is quite good,no???

It says Khebri activates her Special Stuff while "Summon is active". Could it be that Summons of other Units count also for this??? Cause in this Showcasing of her, she Activates Crits left and right and it couldn't be from Normal Regular Crit Support cause there is none. If that's the Case then i think Bamboo found her place...I might make this Team then if that's the case cause i only miss 2 Units (Bamboo and Hinoki) :think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARu8s1ipcKQ

[phob]

Congrats on Dracaena:grin:

[Wutan]

@phob
Thank you a lot :grin::wink:

From Google Translate about the new Event 6* btw.

[5 people] At the start of the next turn after a party member activates a skill 5 times, [HP protection] added: 30%
[5 people] [Reaction] rate increase: 20%
[5 people] [HP Protection] Added: 150%
[5 people] [Critical] Damage increase: 100%
[5 people] 1 time damage [nullify]
[5 people] During the turn when a party member activates a critical, [Critical] damage increase: 20%
[5 people with the same breed as yourself] [Critical] Damage increase: 50%
[5 people with the same breed as yourself] [Reaction] rate increase: 10%

I guess "breed" means Nation in this case right? And the New 6* is from Lily Wood.
Looks like a nice support in my book and well indirectly Maple got "buffed" with this i guess hehe^^
...and Corn Cockle as well which i am really happy about.

Adlay is also from Lily Wood...

I think about something like Adlay, the New Event 6*, Dusty Milly (Academy), Apple (June Bride) and Corn Cockle/Maple Swimsuit for a "Brew"

[maotd]

I think the same "breed" means he same flower family, not nation. I guess it's a buff for her sisters (the new girls are new Tulip versions if you didn't noticed).
Not "that" good but certainly not bad at all. If that 100% crit damage for all is correct, She will make a good replacement for Bluet in my Tritoma's team.

Thanks for sharing her stats so fast :3

[Wutan]

Ah ok then it's a pass for me. I mean i could still use her in a Dendrobium Team but nah not sure. At this point i will really give up on Maple or most of the Old 6* ever get viable again.
She can sit pretty with a lot of others in my Knight's Quarters or at the Beach but on the Battle Field this old Lady doesn't belong anymore i guess.

It's actually smart from a Business Standpoint releasing a 6* Event Girl which only shows her Full Potential when she is paired with Gacha Rainbows from the same Event :think:

I didn't know till recently that DMM Flowerknight Girl is not managed by YourGames anymore but instead by KMS Games. I don't want to b.... around to much and complain but i think they lean more towards Cash Grab what i have seen so far compared to YourGames.

I am not sure about this but the Event Goodies also got more stingy??? Maybe my Memory got cloudy but didn't get you in the Past also High Ampules and other Stuff compared to these few Ampules, Gold, Manyu and Dancho Medals???
Anyway not nearly as Bad as Nutaku of course. Not even Close cause their Greed was directly out of the 9 Hells.

The new Yellow Tulip (Knight Medic) looks like a really strong Counter Girl btw, right???

You know what i wish they did???
Do an exclusive Gacha Banner only with Units from before 2020, raise the chance to get Rainbows there to 3% and then only have the newer Stronger Units in the Newest Gacha Pools and keep the chance there at 2%...This way you would at least not get Units from the Stone Age anymore :frown:

Cherry Picking is really the only way to go now for Free2Play or Ocassional Spenders like me.

At least i got back to almost 450 Gems by now :)

Ok Rant over...

You are welchome maotd :)
I always try to get the Translation for New Units quite fast so i know if it's worth fighting (rolling) for them.

[Myers]

I am not sure about this but the Event Goodies also got more stingy??? Maybe my Memory got cloudy but didn't get you in the Past also High Ampules and other Stuff compared to these few Ampules, Gold, Manyu and Dancho Medals???

Regular events have never given High Ampules. Event rewards used to be worse, but they were improved by YourGames at some point and haven't been made worse by KMS.

[Wutan]

Ok then i apologise about this point. Somehow i thought my High Ampule Supply was higher in the Past then it is now for some reason :think:

[Myers]

Ok then i apologise about this point. Somehow i thought my High Ampule Supply was higher in the Past then it is now for some reason :think:

Might be from the special events like Nidhogg that occured every few months. But that's permanent now with, with an exchange that resets every month. To not miss out on 110 High Ampules, you guys should remember to do it.

[Wutan]

This is actually what i exclusively farm atm to get as much High Ampules as possible. However 60 Stamina Cost and 300 Medals max per run makes it still a long grind for me since well i was not frugal with my Stamina Pots at all but that's really my fault for not playing consistenly in the past and saving them up like you guys did.

When i heard maotd for example has so many Stamina Pots i was shocked and dumbfounded really. The Addition of the Decisive Battles i really like cause i think this and exclusively (or almost exclusively) going for the High Ampules during World Expo is the only somewhat steady income of the Ampules atm.

I wish though they would make the grind for one of those two a bit easier: Petite Oath Heart (increase the rate maybe a bit) or High Ampules. One of those two :)

[maotd]

It's actually smart from a Business Standpoint releasing a 6* Event Girl which only shows her Full Potential when she is paired with Gacha Rainbows from the same Event
that's smart indeed. But I think she has more potential in a higly specialized team without her family buffs than in a more generic team of Liliaceaes built for her buffs. I guess there is more than the Tulip sisters in that family but I doubt there is enough strong girls to worth 50% crit damages and 10% react.
I don't know if there is a list of girls by flower families or not. It would help to find a potential great ally.

I didn't know managment changed that much. I though it was another team in the same company. That explain a lot of things.
To be honest, if the gacha realeses and the powercreep are very aggressive, the regular free stuff is better than ever. We don't have that much special campaings or apologems now but there is a lot of free gems here and there, free D-medals and free R-shards. Nothing to complain about on this side.

I wish they bring back 6* into the R-medal shop. It was a good way to get the missing one. Maybe not when she came first but on her reissue or at least rereissue. And they should just split the gacha into regular gacha with regular girls and limited gacha with limited girls only. At least, if you do the limited gacha, you won't get another dupe of a 2015 girl.

It's really hard to farm high amplues right now. I'm looking for Hraesvelgr. It was by far the most effective way to get Rose medals. I hope it will remains that good or farming Rose medals will be the must do activity each month. they must avoid this.

[Wutan]

You are right maybe we still have to look outside the Box to find a perfect Combination for White Tulip (Knight Medic). Same thing with the Collaberation Units a few weeks ago. The 5*Star Event Girl we got exclusively buffs Units without Flower Family (so only the other Units from Akatsuki Yureru Koi Akari and other Collab Units) but to be honest her buffs are just not good enough to just field the entire Akatsuki Squad. That was also the reason i only went with Momiji Suzakuin cause i liked her Battle Animations, Artwork and she has a decent Skill Line Up. Not amazingly broken but good enough in my book.

It's just sad to have an Event Unit but you know if you didn't get all the other girls from the same Event she just takes up a Slot of your Total Girl Count and does nothing, Maybe in the future with New Collab Units she might become interesting.
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Setsugekka_Kazamine

Yes i mean the supplies of Free Gems is really good, I like Nazuna Day RG Stones Stage, the Decisive Battle Additions and the Art is still fantastic so probs to the Artists really. They are really good.

What i don't like is that Powercreep, all these Limited Units with a long Wait Time to reappear and that the Old Units are still in the same Gacha as the Newer ones. I now have for example Helenium at 5/4 cause she stalked me like crazy. I can't use her though for anything harder than farming cause Equipment Slots are insignificant compared to good Abilities and she is just a victim of being old again. It just gets frustrating when you have already almost all Pre 2021 Units but still get the Old Stuff :(

I don't want to speak about special Occassions like Anniversary much yet cause i hope for some fun and exciting Stuff but the Golden Week Gacha was definetly a huge debacle.

Yep i totally agree about splitting the Gacha and being able to buy newer Rainbows on Reissue with Medals. That would relieve some of the stress "to miss out" and make me a bit less tense cause when i think about all the Units i want to get soon i panic a bit lol. You never know how long you actually have to wait till the Limited Units show up in a Gacha again. I think it's on average like 8 months maybe.

[maotd]

Yeah. Missing and waiting for limited units is stressful and frustrating. Not exactly the kind of thing you want from a game you just want to chill on daily.
We're okay, that much limited units sucks (a little bit for really special girls would be ok I guess) and powercreep too.

[NBPEL]

Would be great if they remove outdated girls from 5000FS gacha, and move all of them to salt ticket gacha with increased rates (0.5% -> 2%) so it's easier to get new girls from new gacha.

[maotd]

Chocolate Lily is from Liliaceae family. She is not exactly a good girl but she can work with White Tulip. Free 150% Crit damages is not that bad when you already got 100% yourself. Add Purple Tulip in the process, gives Chocolily guardian type and you may have a decent finisher team for every boss under 40% HP.

[NBPEL]

I just got Zinnia, but currently I don't have the dream team Zinnia+Sigilaria+Adlay+Corbett+Spring Star School/Cat Debrobium. So I guess I need to go the suboptimal route, I think.

From what I've read her kit, she needs a lot of skill activation rate, and act again, so I crafted this team:

- Zinnia
- Corbett (thankfully Corbett also has skill activation passive)
- Spring Star School (more skill acti)
- Isogiku Formal (act again)
- The healer girl with 30% act again

[maotd]

I don't think she needs that much skill act. She needs survivability.
Raise her skill to lvl5, give her a bit of x1.36 skill act and it should be enough. You want to get her 2 skill buff. Combo Hit and Special evade for all is the best. After that, it's sweet bonus.
Try to get some good retain HP. Skill act and re-act are overated for Zinnia imho. You don't care if she can skill twice per turn if she don't survive more than one. A good Zinnia is a Zinnia alive (and that's why Adlay is broken with her).

[NBPEL]

My best retain HP support is Bluet alt, but I think she's a bad idea because she is a ramp buffer, and Zinnia is also a ramp buffer, I want to balance between skill acti, act again and survivability. So I kinda want to try a bit more with act again because I need to at some point build a act again team.

I'm trying to fit Rose Mallow in my Zinnia team, yeah I think I'm gonna remove Spring Star School.

- Zinnia (buff+DPS) (10% act again FM)
- Rose Mallow (a healer with great act again buff and healings)
- Corbett (a true DPS)
- Isogiku Formal (reserved because I think she can be replaced) (provoke FM, because I want to use her as my tanker, and Rose Mallow can heal her pretty easily)
- Jack in the pulpit (80% retain HP, 60% miss, some decent buffs)

Total act again 85%, quite decent I guess.

[phob]

Corbett is my favorite right now and don't forget Flowering peach Halloween. She's really versatile.
using her as 1.8 skill act right now and Corbett as an attacker with the 80% damage booster.
Would love to get Yellow Tulip (Knight Medic) to replace sleepy head, but she's so damn slow. I think I will pass.


Current 4 teams
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[NBPEL]

Actually, is there a quick and dirty way to get Pincushion, I tried to roll a lot to get her but no luck so far, still 0 copies. :neutral:

[maotd]

The easiest way right now is getting a 22' stone on Zinna's gacha and using it to get Pincushion. Wutan approved.

[NBPEL]

Got her.

And I just re-clear floor 200 again with Zinnia, it gets totally destroyed

https://i.imgur.com/xGSqG3y.png

[smr]

powercreep went out of control ever since they started releasing ancient flower knights, and those girls with the retarded HP protection addition. Cant even use most of my old lvl 120s except for Yamabuki (Kerria).

[Wutan]

Welcome to the Club, brother. Maple Swimsuit Level 120 5 Skill Slots / 4 Dressblooms, Max Ampy useless. Same for Maple, Same for Cactus, Kerria is also max and she is still decent because she is an Evasion Unit but i would not invest to much in Intercept Girls anymore cause they released to many Maps, Castle Floors etc. with Counter Measures.

Oh yes...Snowdrop (New Year) a !Limited! Unit i also have 4 Equipment Slots and she is also outdated by now.

Sucks really. i have 9 Dressblooms laying around but i won't use them anymore cause you can't be sure your favourite Rainbow will still be viable the next day (ok this is exaggerated but still).

@ NBPEL

Yep like Maotd said you should get Pincushion from the Zinnia Gacha with the Stone.

I want Jack in the Pulpit but also have no luck. Only Gold Dupes so far and World Exploration never gave me anything decent yet. I have a theory that you only get the new 5* (and the good ones) when you unlock all the Power Levels there.

[NBPEL]

I find it's quite hard to 120 my core units, my Corbett is still 100.

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/iJ75uQN.png

dont remember the last time I rolled the flower memory gacha. Also I guess Old Reliable Rainbow Rose is still kind of useful nowadays.

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/maKnFze.png

that was fucking annoying. I'm probably missing more skill reduction girls since Lavender's from 2021 or something.

[phob]

Huge resources spent. Took 8 rolls only have 60 some gems left, but got yellow tulip to replace Sensi. The speed works barely.
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[NBPEL]

I kind want to farm Medals of a Thousand Blooming Flowers / 千花繚乱の勲章 for monthly High Ampule, should I farm this map ? 500 medals / 60 stamina sounds pretty okay for me :D

Plus it's easy, I think this player also farm this map: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yCCdSjvAPU

https://i.imgur.com/SkSEBOd.png

[maotd]

I farm this map too but it's really bad. You need to do the map 3 times to buy 1 high ampule. And there is 330 High ampules. You're stuck on these maps for the whole month if you want to get all the good stuff. And that's it each months.
I really hope Midgardsormr map will be more efficient. Or devs reduce the price in the shop/increase the amount of medals.

The new event girl looks interesting. I'm not sure she is worth the team slot but her 80% ATK for one attack ally is great as backup solution. Retain HP, Guts and skill act is not bad too.

[Myers]

I kind want to farm Medals of a Thousand Blooming Flowers / 千花繚乱の勲章 for monthly High Ampule, should I farm this map ? 500 medals / 60 stamina sounds pretty okay for me :D

Plus it's easy, I think this player also farm this map: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yCCdSjvAPU

I farm the 6* Core, which is 800 Medals/80 Stam. It's still really slow though, the devs need to either cheapen the wares or increase Medal output.

[maotd]

I didn't know the core stage gives medals. Is it new or did I missed it? Seems convenient.

It seems devs changed something about Total Power calculation. Everyone TP is a bit higher. Someone know what it is? Myers maybe?

[NBPEL]

Unfortunately I can't really "farm" the core map because I need a very strong team to finish them quick, currently it takes about 4 minutes per run, which is kinda long.

[Myers]

I didn't know the core stage gives medals. Is it new or did I missed it? Seems convenient.

Core drops Medals ever since the May 22 maintenance, so kinda new.


It seems devs changed something about Total Power calculation. Everyone TP is a bit higher. Someone know what it is? Myers maybe?

TP includes Equipment stats ever since the May 29th maintenance.

[maotd]

Thanks. That explain why I didn't noticed for the core stages. All thoses enemy guts make this kinda slow however.

I checked the equipement first but I didn't see any change in my TP. Weird. But that's it. Actually, it's not exactly equipement stats but stats bonuses given by 6* equipement (1% ATK & DEF for regular equipement and +20/+5/10% for personnal equipement). I guess 6* equipement will be mandatory now for high TP...

I wonder if that new TP calc is just for fancy numbers or if equipement stats are now included in ATK and DEF ability bonus.

[NBPEL]

I just checked Monkshood (Bride) (https://antifandom.com/flowerknight/wiki/Monkshood_(June_Bride)), she looks pretty strong and looks like devs are trying to push the "until subjugation ends" meta.

200% atk + 50% damage, 250% skill damage looks pretty massive. And she can be a healer too.

[Wutan]

The Addition to get Medals from this Core Stages is definitely a Welcome one. I farm the one with the Ratio 80 Stamina/700 Medals per run.
Still kinda slow but better than the last stage with the Pest having so many guts and Health Regeneration. Only team i can use for this includes Sigilaria and here i think Sigilarias weakness shows. You dont want to seal Health Regenerating Mobs. It is bad. In General the Seal Ability i think is a Double Edged Sword.

Anyway as much as i complained about the Powercreep and the changed Schedule of of the limited Units lately re-released, i very much welcome the devs decisions to implement a good opportunity to finally farm High Ampules now reliably!!! Before this getting High Ampules was a huge pain in the butt.

Also i got a Second Cotton??? No idea where i got here from. i must have overlooked something but a Dupe of her i am ok with cause i rate her quite highly.

Now i think its best going for Stamina Refills with the World Flower Exploration :)

[NBPEL]

For farming I think a Turn-1 with stability (not Debrobium's Turn-1, Debrobium can't handle phase changes) team is always the best choice, just need to oneshot them.

But that also means I need Hinoki School desperately, one of the best if not the best turn-1&later support.

[maotd]

My best farming choice is Tritoma. She can deal with everything in one turn and her 3 turns of buffs are just enough to deal with any phase change.
In the precise case of phase change bosses, I think "until subjugation ends" are great to synergize with turn 1 attackers. While turn 1 girls do their jobs, the others stack buffs. And on the phase final boss, these girls came strong enough to handle the fight past turn 1.

Anyway, even my hard Tritoma nucker team take too much time on the 6* core stage. Too many guts.

[NBPEL]

Yeah, the 6* core is taking too long per clear, the 60 stamina 500 medals only takes 20s with a fast and high speed team.

Hopefully they will buff the drops.

[maotd]

Adlay is so broken, even when I abort a mission, she refuse to die and resurect the whole team. I don't know why they changed how the give up function works but doing it twice each time is a bit frustrating once the fun is over.

I really hope the rose medals drop will be higher on Midgardsormr. They didn't lowered item's cost in the whare house.

[Myers]

To farm 6* Core I take two teams:

- Hollyhock / Sparaxis / Robinia Bride / Sakura Swimsuit / Snowdrop NY: Takes out the first two nodes and sometimes the 1st phase of the boss.
- Corbett / Lycoris Academy / Hyacinth NY / Cardamine Halloween / Dracaena: Takes out all 3 phases of the boss.

[Wutan]

I guess i am "lucky" i didn't participate in the Original Events cause i still can get the Ampules for 700, 900 and 1200 Rose Medals.
But even with the best Ratio of the 6*Core Stage i think you need about 240 Stamina Refill Pots (around 2100 Stamina for one session and 26 runs per session) to get at least 100 of each Ampules per month in case one Ampule costs 1500 Rose Medals.

I didn't do the exact math cause i am lazy and maybe i am off by quite a bit but it sounds like this will be a huge grindfest...especially since i am sure it's not possible getting so many Stamina Pots each month as a Free2play Player (even with World Exploration).

Edit: Ok scratch my last sentence. I forgot daily rewards, Login Rewards...It's possible to get enough pots as F2play but it's none the less quite the grind.

[maotd]

You need 495k medals for all the 330 high ampules. With the 800 medals core, you have to do it 619 times for 49500 stamina. For me, 1 pot gives 216 stamina. I need 230 stamina potion per month to run the core 619 times. That's a lot of stamina potions and times.

To farm this stage, I use my regular farming team with White Tulip (medic)/Spring Star (school)/Asian birch/Adlay/Tritoma. They take care of everything. I just need luck to get some react on White Tulip/Spring Star/Birch/Adlay to bypass all the negate damages on phase 1 or Tritoma isn't able to kill it in one turn (meaning she will lose her buffs for the 3rd phase and taking way too much time).
I shoud try with another girl with 100% react instead of Tulip or Birch.

[NBPEL]

My main issue is time and heat, 4 mins per run is simply unbearable, I don't have Tritoma or any better Turn 1, 2, 3 unit.

And for some reasons the game performance is really horrible on my ends, it makes my CPU/GPU fan spins like crazy (eventhough I can watch 5 Youtube videos at the same time without any issues)

[Wutan]

Yeah i realised that yesterday as well. After a while the lag became really bad. Maybe my PC is heating up to fast too especially now that it's summer time. I also lack Tritoma or any other Turn 1,2,3 Unit. Most of my Teams need time to get going and this is what most other Maps require (at least the High End Ones) anyway.

I think i need around 2 hours atm from 2100 Stamina all the way down to Zero.

There are a few ways they could fix this...

1. Allow us to use Skip Tickets.
2. Increase the Drop Rate of Rose Medals when Battle against Midgardsormr is released.
3. Better Stamina/Medal Ratio.
3. Make the Rose Medals you could get in the past for 500,700,900 and 1200 Medals recurring for each month.

[maotd]

Well, even with Tritoma, it takes 2-3 minutes to clear the stage. Most of the stage is dealing with guts wall.
The best way to fix it would be increasing Rose Medal drops. Like they did in the past with Blue Medals. Farming Rose Medals once every 3-4 months during limited event was okay. But farming it each month is tiring and not fun. I just hope Hraesvelgr stay has good as they where with medal drop. You could make way over the needed amount of Rose Medals just by doing it normally without forcing.

[NBPEL]

I, and we are not alone: https://dororon-fkg.blog.jp/archives/20533479.html

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Even this JP player who is very hardcore gave up farming medals for High ampules.

[maotd]

I think at some point, things will be changed. Usually, devs care for players anger. Unless the new direction don't and decided to not listen their player base anymore. But it would be the start of the end. Rose medals are free stuff. And their is no point on risking whale players money to keep free stuff hardly limited.
For devs defense, it's the sames rates than the original event with almost same rewards (there was even more rewards). It's just not adapted to the new event format. I'm sure they will manage to fix it.

[Wutan]

I think they also asked in the survey if Players are happy/content with the Medal/Stamina Ratio. I would like to add to this that luckily Japanese Gaming Companies are still concerned with their public image and their Reputation (unlike most Western Gaming Companies). So since it's a Japanese Company handled by Japanese Devs who are often times very polite and open for feedback i think we will see a fix for this as well. Maybe i just only farm all Ampules from 700 till 1200 currency now and save the rest Medals till the rates are better.

[NBPEL]

Honestly I don't think it's healthy for them to straight up increasing medal drops from centipede and bloodmoon maps because I think whales do buy medal packs ? But they could easily add extra medal drops to event, so people can happily farm event while getting extra medals for buying High ampules.

[smr]

tempted to spend 13k yen to get Jyuzudama since FKG Staff's been filtering me on almost every new difficult content they release the past year or so

[phob]

tempted to spend 13k yen to get Jyuzudama since FKG Staff's been filtering me on almost every new difficult content they release the past year or so

She's good to have in the toolbox even if you don't like her.
Its nice to have a unit like her that single handedly can make any teams defense pretty good.

[smr]

got all silver'd so many times I had to recheck if it was still 2016 but I got her.

[phob]

got all silver'd so many times I had to recheck if it was still 2016 but I got her.

https://streamable.com/vgioh2:rofl:

[maotd]

https://streamable.com/vgioh2:rofl:
:rofl:
That's so good and so true. I'm taking it in my signature for posterity.


More seriously, what about White Dead Nettle? Her damage buff is appealing but I can't decide if she is worth it or not. Her self buff are a bit nonsense but her ally buff sounds pretty solid.

[NBPEL]

got all silver'd so many times I had to recheck if it was still 2016 but I got her.

Worth it, I made a video testing the brokeness of Ancient Knight - Adlay:

https://youtu.be/h4kVukm_PfQ

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/2nYUgfc.png

https://i.imgur.com/MqQ9B1y.png

I am literally the worst FKG player ever that I was unable to beat this bitch without overpowered characters released months after her.



Bonus:

https://i.imgur.com/q7ZrPQ3.png

this game is retarded.

[Wutan]

@phob

Thank you ;)

This cracked me up...i feel the agony of poor Cage...The 5432765 Gold Dupes and the Silver Ladies deserve some Recognition too though lol ;)

[maotd]

@smr: Honeysuckle was the hardest imho. Back in her release time, I had to cheat and skip her 100% heal to beat her. Then, Adlay came out and things became managable. Now almost everything can steamroll her.

[Tomitain]

Yeah, Adlay is a monster. Before I picked her up my best against the event boss was ~57 million damage after all ten rounds. After I plugged her into my damage team in place of Yarrow - Prison Island (i.e., no real attempt to optimize the group around Adlay) I broke 160 million on the first try.

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/UIkhJg8.png

I can probably get to 200 on my secondary account at this point haha.

[NBPEL]

Just how broken Adlay is, heck even getting 4 copies of Adlay is justifiable because she makes 4 strong teams all by herself.

I remember a Japanese player rolled for 4 Bloss(s) to make a insane 20/20 team.

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/iTlnX5W.png

I want all the wasted hours I've spent forming teams (and sortieing while enduring the horrendous lag that occurs when a fight drags on for more than 5 minutes) without these retarded ancient girls back.

[NBPEL]

I beat 200 with my non-Adlay+non-Zinnia team back then, which I consider a good achivement.

Now that having Adlay in my team I consider she's like a cheat tool. :joy:

[maotd]

I like your team smr. It's so representative of the meta powercreep. Ancient Knights, Event 6*, School girls. It's like everything else doesn't matters.

[Myers]

Nice wife

https://i.imgur.com/Ligpmfx.png

[maotd]

*Trying to not say anything about Anemone*

It's nice to see gacha event again. i hope it will be as broken as the last one with infinite 6* aqua shards at the end. But should'nt we supposed to have a Bamboo Bride somehow? Or did they plan to do a 3rd bride event?

[Wutan]

---< Also trying not to say anything about Anemone but by now i am really curious and intrigued why the Japanese Players adore her so much and vote for her over and over and over again.

Ok i get she looks nice, has good Artwork, Lightning Attacks are popular, she has good drawn H-Scenes but since unfortunately i don't speak Japanese i am curious what her Personality is. Is she like "house-wifey" and that's the reason she is basically worshipped or what is it??? If someone can fill me in about her supposed Personality Traits i would appreciate it.

Hmm...maybe Monkshood Bride was the supposed "Bamboo Bride" cause they share quite the resemblance.

Also if i am not mistaken the new Durantha Bride might be an awesome support from what i have seen so far.

[NBPEL]

Bride Anemone looks taller than most units somehow, I mean her chibi.

Also what is the verdict of this new batch of unit, are they worth summoning for ?

[maotd]

I'd like to know about Anemone too. She is nice but visually speaking there is many girls more interesting than her for me.
She exists in 7 different version now (not counting special skins). Enough to fill a full rainbow. I thought we got more of her. Actually, I found this more amusing than annoying now. I guess I'm used to the mandatory Anemone alt now.

For the new batch, I wait the ability translation before saying anything.

[Wutan]

Anemone (bride):

[Self] defense increase: 70%, defense reduction rate increase: 7.5%
[Self] Provocation (Small)
[Self] Probability Guts: 3 times
[5 people] During the next turn when you are attacked, damage dealt increases: 50%
[5 people] During the next turn when you are attacked, the skill activation rate*: 2 times
[5 people] During the next turn when you are attacked, weak point attribute damage increase: 50%
[5 people] Skill activation rate: Up to 1.2 times depending on each favorability (1.28 times only when the oath is 100% or more)
[5 people] Defense increase: 30%
[5 people] [Participation] Defense wall 30%
[5 people] Nullifies damage twice
[Attack type 1 person] During the next turn when you are attacked, attack power increase: 150%

Durantha (Bride):

[5 people] Skill activation rate: Up to 1.2 times depending on each favorability (1.28 times only when the oath is 100% or more)
[5 people] Critical Rate Increase: 20%
[5 people] Pursuit 50%
[5 people] Critical damage increase: 30%
[5 people] Guaranteed Guts: 2 times
[5 people] Reaction rate increase: 20%
[5 people] Boss damage increase: 15%
[Attack type 1 person] 150% all follow-up during the next turn after attacking 2 times
[Attack type 1 person] Critical damage increase: 150%

I used Google Translate though^^

If Anemone would have had Life Leech for the whole Party as well then i would have pulled the Trigger on her in Combination with Adlay.

Durantha is a really good support Unit but i will sit this one out. My teams are already planned but i wouldn't mind either of these two. They are quite good.
I like Ivy Bride a bit more than Durantha though.

Anemones Skill Activation really means all other Units in her Team don't need any Skill Act to reach 100% Activation Rate.

Yep...you can bet that when you make an Account right now that one or three of the Anewaifus will sooner or later knock on your door :squint:
I don't mind it anymore either. A few years ago i found it annoying but i came to terms with the fact that some Units just are not meant to get more Love from the Japanese Player Base. We are a tiny demographic i think in the FKG Universe and voting against the larger Japanese Playerbase in Popularity Polls is futile anyway :neutral:

[NBPEL]

her Personality is.

From what I've read she's brave and easy to get embarassed, I think Japanese people like this kind of personality. (this is what I've learnt from observing some Japanese fanbase, people go crazy with girls like her)

This is some part of her 1st H-scene:


Hmmm............what a weird feeling......... hmmm..!

She looks at the joint with an expression that is aptly described as "shyness".

Not as ...... painful as I thought it would be, haha!

Anemone smiled awkwardly, trying not to worry.

Our lips parted as we could no longer hold each other's breath. Anemone whispered quietly, within breathing distance.

...... Really, are you sure?

The murmur was not directed at the other party. It is directed at Anemone herself.

Anemone's trembling is gradually subsiding. However, there is still a shadow on her face.

Can I touch you ......, become one with you, open my heart and mind, and expect ......?

[Wutan]

@NBPEL

Nice, Ah Thank you a lot for giving me a Glimpse why she is so adored. Yeah something similar to this i expected cause she always seems to have a shy Impression when you pick her as Vice Leader or in her H-Scenes as well. I can respect that the Japanese people like these traits in a woman.
I only have a very limited Knowledge about Anime Archetypes like Tsundere, Yandere etc. :sweat:

A lot of times though in Games like Fire Emblem, Characters are kinda reduced just to their gimmick and show not much other Personality or any Background beside that,

It's a bit sad though cause i would really like to know sometimes more about the lore of FKG and the bit of Information i gathered for example about Maple is all from the English Wiki.

[maotd]

Thanks Wutan. Anemone is not bad. Would works in a team meant to take hits but her provocation is not breat if you're facing enemies with single target attack. You want to take hit with your main attacker but you don't want to git it provocation and take ALL the hits...
Durantha is not bad. Especially her 150% Crit damages for 1 attacker. But Pursuit is no longer good (very situationnal at best) thanks to combo hit being the same but OP. I think her "150% all follow-up during the next turn after attacking 2 times" are just pursuit damages and not combo hit (if it was, she will be ranked Adlay tier instantly).

I looked at 2022 brides:
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Pygmy_Water_Lily_(June_Bride)
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Fire_Lily_(June_Bride)
https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Easter_Cactus_(June_Bride)
None were bad but none is good now. Things really get out of control.

I guess I'll pass this one. Maybe I'll give a try to Ivy's. Or I'll wait next week for another weird non-flower knight pest-witch.

Thanks too NBPEL for the hint. It makes sense.

[NBPEL]

We can't miss the Anemone showcase of the craziest Anemone's fan: :cool:

【花騎士】アネモネ(ジューンブライ� ��)+スイカズラ編成 VS ”知徳の力ダンジョン（EX破級) (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Oh-iygnMk)

[maotd]

Musk Rose is interesting. Good turn 1 girl turned into debuff girl once she become useless. I like this. I guess she is a kind of lowcost pierce Dendrobium.

[NBPEL]

I think Duranta (June Bride) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Duranta_(June_Bride)) is a pretty good support, lots of buffs. but to be honest White Tulip (Knight Medic) (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/White_Tulip_(Knight_Medic)), a free 6* isn't much worse than her.

[phob]

Maybe the swimsuits will be better this year. I should have some gems by then.:smirk:

[maotd]

Yeah. I'm looking for them too. If the pest-witches don't dry my gem pile before...

[NBPEL]

About Khepri (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Khepri), she's actually really good am I right ? Because her condition is While Summon is active, that means she can use summons from her teammates (Sigilaria/Bamboo), so she can be strong at the start of the turn and snowball from there.

And if she can, her buffs are pretty amazing.

[maotd]

She works (worked?) with Bamboo for sure. But I don't know if it's Bamboo only for unkown reasons or if it works with all the summons. I only saw her teamed with Bamboo. But yep, she is not bad for sure.

[NBPEL]

The Japanese player actually tried her with Sigilaria too, from what I can see it works, at 1:12:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=97pPtw1cZC0

Both of them create almost infinite saiyan mode for Khepri I guess, but not really easy with Sigilaria.

But the huge problem is Bamboo is just a value loss, maybe we will get a better Bride/Swimsuit Bamboo with the same turn 1 summon mechanic.

[maotd]

I randomly found this ally in my ally list.
https://i.ibb.co/hWCf6tX/lis.jpg
This team feels insanely refreshing somehow. Like a huge wave of nostalgia washing away all the top tier and meta concerns. It's like there was another game insinde the game.

[NBPEL]

I think the current event EX map is a bit harder than normal ? My 2nd team have some troubles beating the mobs (they hit hard and hit a lot, bypass my evasion/nullify stacks), but my 1st team is so strong now they demolish everything.

[NBPEL]

All the showcase of Bride Anemone so far, not so amazing I guess ? Guess I'll wait for something better, I hope they rerun Parallel Academy banner soon because those schoolgirls are strong.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5bRqsRTbLq8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h5pOY3qA9GA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Oh-iygnMk

[Wutan]

I was able to beat Floor 200 on Hard Mode the other day. I would just like to say how glad i am that i have Pavonia and especially Adlay. It makes this content just that more bearable to play.

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Unrelated:
Also while i think of course Combo hit in most cases is better than Pursuit, in case of Sigilaria Pursuit Damage bypasses her Seal Ability while Combo Hit doesn't do any damage against sealed Enemies.

[maotd]

Yep. Pursuit damages ignore defense. It's useful but very situational. Pursuit is not bad, it was just naturally nerfed when enemies started to have tons of millions of HP. It still works pretty well on less helthed bosses with really high defense.
same goes for Solar Blast actually. And Counter. That's sad.

[Wutan]

I don't have yet the Text i could translate it from but by the looks of it the new Limited 6* Loli Elf looks like it might be similar to Bloss. This time for units from Winter Rose, am i right?

Ok here i have a Translation via Google Translate:

Incarnation of the World Flower Winter Rose*1
Incarnation of the World Flower Winter Rose*2
[5 people] [Participation] At the start of the turn, Fate rate increases critical rate during that turn: 60%
[5 people] Critical Rate Increase: 20%
[5 people] Reduce damage received during the next turn after 5 critical hits: 60%
The Winter Rose characters, excluding myself,
・When 1 or more, Snowfield Power Seed I
The Winter Rose characters, excluding myself,
・When there are 3 or more, Snowfield Power Seed II
[Self] Critical Damage Increase: 100%
[Self] damage reduction: 25%
[5 Winter Roses] [Participation] Nullifies damage twice
The Winter Rose characters, excluding myself,
・When there are 4 or more, Snowfield Power Seed III
[Self] Critical damage increase: 100% (cumulative 200%)
[5 Winter Roses] [Participation] Increased recurrence rate (upper limit released): 30%
The Winter Rose characters, excluding myself,
・When there are 9 or more, Snowfield Power Seed IV
[Self] Attack power increase: 350% (cumulative 500%)
[Self] Critical damage increase: 150% (cumulative 350%)
[Self] All follow-up 300%
* Combat skill change "Falling Everlasting Petra"
Deal 6x damage to all enemies if there is 1 remaining enemy, 5x damage if there are 2 remaining enemies, and 4x damage if there are 3 remaining enemies.
*When the affection rating is equal to or higher than Eternal Vow, this skill's multiplier increases by 20%, just like other skills.
The Winter Rose characters, excluding myself,
・When there are 14 or more, Seed of Power in the Snowfield V
[Self] Critical damage increase: 50% (cumulative 400%)
[Self] Damage reduction: 25% (cumulative 50%)
[5 Winter Roses] [Participation] Reaction rate increase (upper limit release): 20% (cumulative 50%)
The Winter Rose characters, excluding myself,
・When 19 or more, Snowfield Seed of Power VI
[Self] Damage reduction: 25% (cumulative 75%)
[5 Winter Roses] [Participation] Reaction rate increase (upper limit release): 50% (cumulative 100%)
* Combat skill change "Koryuktas of the Distant Snow Ridge"
Deals 10x damage to all enemies if there is 1 remaining enemy, 7x damage if there are 2 remaining enemies, 6x damage if there are 3 remaining enemies, and absorbs a large amount of HP.
*When the affection rating is equal to or higher than Eternal Vow, this skill's multiplier increases by 20% like other skills.

It's like i thought. Then the other witches will probably include all the other Nations. Certainly interesting for whales. I don't know if i should roll for any of these Units though.

[maotd]

The EX box of the current event gacha is renewable AND gives 100 5* and 6* aqua fragments. Best source of aqua fragment at the moment. Time to burn stamina potions and skip tickets to make a great stock of aqua crystals. There is one petite centy too.

The new 6* Win is a world flower incarnation. I think it's different from the Witches. She works exactly like Bloss. Not good, not bad. I kinda like thoses girls. They can be really strong but with a huge drawback. It's better than the Ancient Knights being just broken I guess.
I really liked Bloss (on her art side) but not than much Win. A tiny bit way too White Rose Loli for me. Though, I can't wait for Banana Island world flower incarnation.

[Wutan]

@maotd

Thank you a lot for this hint. I totally would have missed that and just continued Farming High Ampules :sweat:

Ah ok i didn't knew that Bloss was labelled as Flower Incarnation. So i guess they are basically the first of their kind giving birth to the entire Nation???
I like the concept but it's to much investment for me to pursue a Full Blossom Hill or Winter Rose Squad. Effectively you would gimp three teams with less optimal options (compared to being able to choose from all Nations) to create one Uber Team but nah most maps are more then one lane i think, so i will pass on this.

I agree. "Win" is asthetically not my cup of tea her being a Loli Elf and having a somewhat creepy expression as well.

I have high hopes for the Swimsuit Gacha this year. There should be a few good looking Units with good Abilities waiting for us :)

[maotd]

I missed that infinite EX box last time we got a gacha event. I figured it 30 minutes before the end and grinded as much as I could. I don't want to see that happen again :D

I term of lore and ability concept, World flowers incarnations are very interesting. I think they would really shines in nation based events like the really old Nation Defense missions. World Flowers Power Dungeons (where you got aqua crystals) are a good place for them but nothing any classic team can't do. On one hand it would be cool to have something nation based more suited for them but on another hand, centralizing a specific kind of missions around them would make another Ancient Knight mistake...
They would have been awesome in the meta 2 or 3 years ago.

Besind that loli style, Win is still interesting like Bloss. I like how they are built around their respectives world flowers. Even their names are the first syllab of their countries.

I'm waiting for swimsuit too. I hope we will get good girls on waifus and battle sides.

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/JNIakK6.png

dunno if its worth adding more winter rose girls for this meme, currently at 13

[maotd]

Thanks to this event, I made over 5k aqua fragments. It's only 5 personnal equipement evolution but that's almost half of what I got until now. That's good.
I hope you did well on this event too.

[Wutan]

i got only over 3k i think but in the last couple of days i was a bit slacking and didn't pay that much attention to the game cause i played another game from my childhood for a bit.
At the Moment i am a bit bored. I think they plan something big or at least hope for it.

Do you guys also have Problems with these Farm/Harvest Events that the Screens don't load properly btw??

I dislike them for that reason and in General they are my least favourite Event Type...sadly they seem quite common.
...And Sigi is back btw. hehe :squint:

[Wutan]

The Ability Set of the New 6* Loli btw:

[5 people] "[Self] Increased damage dealt: Give own "current HP / maximum HP" x 30%"
[5 people] "[Self] skill damage increase: own "current HP / maximum HP" x 30%"
[5 people] [Participation] Recover 20% of maximum HP every 3 turns
[5 people] Nullifies damage twice
[5 people] HP protection added: 100%
[5 people] HP can be maintained up to 200% of maximum HP
[Attack type 1 person] Attack power increase: 40%
[5 people with HP 100% or more] Attack power increase: 60%

[maotd]

The field screen from farm event takes a while to load and don't load at all if I quit before it's fuly loaded. It was really annoying before I knew I had to wait that long load time. Now, I just go to it once a day and that's all. It don't bother me that much.
Farm event was a cool event type but like every other, it became annoying after a while. I don't really like it but it's more because of average rewards than the event itself. I guess my favorite event right now is the card flip with high/low mini game.

I wont say I'm bored but I think the same somehow. There is stuff to do (like crazy grinding) but the game lack of huge hard content to do I guess. Or something as big as the final bosses events. Or at least a good old reroll gacha. I hope for it too.

The new cake-loli Macadamia is okay. Too bad she is just a generic loli.

[smr]

I would personally like to thank the Ancient Flower Knights I possess, and Win for the easy EX Dungeon farming. Never again do I have to auto farm the regular event stage.

[maotd]

Time for serious question. About that new FM (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000188).
Increase Damage by [Current HP / Max HP x 15%] is really nice and the bonus 15% ATK is welcome. It's a good FM by itself. But I wonder if it's that worth it when you have this (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000148) and this (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/FM_1000115) around.

[maotd]

It's just me or the game don't load at all? I can't even load the title screen or the game window. It started almost 12 hours ago. Seems really long for a dmm bug.

[Myers]

It's just me or the game don't load at all? I can't even load the title screen or the game window. It started almost 12 hours ago. Seems really long for a dmm bug.

No problems on my end.

[maotd]

Thanks. That's really infortunate. Things still don't work event after clearing cache, rebooting computer or trying on another browser.
Seems none of the DMM games load. osapi.dmm.com don't respond and nothing load. Trying to play through FANZA just send me back to regular DMM page. The best I could do was loading the window with the (unworking) setting button...
That's really annoying. I'm out of idea to fix that and time seems to not help at all.

[NBPEL]

Kinda sad I couldn't farm anything because I was in the hospital in the last few days because of DHF. :frown:

I still need to rest about a few days to recover.

[maotd]

Seems the game is loadable again after over 24h of not working. But it seems absurdly slow now and almost unplayable...

DHF? Like Dengue haemorrhagic fever? Sounds really really bad. Take care of you and get some rest.

[Tomitain]

Yeah, don't rush things.

As for the game, it's been a little slow on my end for the past few days but it hasn't outright failed to load (yet). Choco Lily and Geranium have new versions as well - I guess Choco Lily is all grown up now.

[maotd]

Can't load again. Meh... No ChocoLily or Geranium for me.
I managed to load it once but as broken as previously. The missions run like a snails in honey. A lot of things seems glitched though.
I guess I'll be out for a while.

[Myers]

Can't load again. Meh... No ChocoLily or Geranium for me.
I managed to load it once but as broken as previously. The missions run like a snails in honey. A lot of things seems glitched though.
I guess I'll be out for a while.

Hope you can fix it by Jul 7, there's going to be some kind of collab event (not an event one like Rance, GS, etc.)

[phob]

No gems for to go for swimsuit Choco Lily:sad: She's definitely cute and playable at least when you you can use a single target.
maotd hope your game clears up and NBPEL hope you get well soon.

[maotd]

The game kinda works. It still looks like it runs in safe mode but at least it loads. I had to use Cloudflare WARP pseudo-VPN to make this little miracle happens.
Anyway, did you also have that big menacing ! yellow button on title screen? And someone can translate it please?
https://i.ibb.co/TwWCV7z/yellow.jpg

[Myers]

The game kinda works. It still looks like it runs in safe mode but at least it loads. I had to use Cloudflare WARP pseudo-VPN to make this little miracle happens.
Anyway, did you also have that big menacing ! yellow button on title screen? And someone can translate it please?
https://i.ibb.co/TwWCV7z/yellow.jpg

Someone posted this in the Discord a few days ago. It says something about how your browser settings may cause the game to not function properly.

[maotd]

Thanks a lot. I messed up the settings trying to fix loading failures. That explain why the game runs so badly. I think it's back to normal now.

[Tomitain]

It took most of the FG I had on hand but I picked up swimsuit Choco Lily. As much as I like Choco Lily I probably should've stopped after five rolls since the '22 flower stone includes Pincushion as an available Knight.

[Tomitain]

It looks like the collab is underway - I haven't noticed anything in FKG aside from the title screen showing off characters from the various games featured (including Yakutsk from Mist Train Girls) but MST has a Party Skill (roughly similar to Flower Memories) that features Cattleya:

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[maotd]

The collab seems pretty underwhelming. At least, you can easily get Vervain/Curcuma Yukata or one of the many Silk Tree version. If any of them is worth the gems. I was hyped by Silk Tree School but it seems she is one of the less godd parallel academy girl.

[Myers]

Here are the links for the 3 collab games, which reward 65oo gems after completing all their tutorials. All links are NSFW. If you're outside Japan, it seems you have to play the .co.jp (18+) versions. You have to play the games with the same DMM account you use to play FKG.

https://pc-play.games.dmm.co.jp/play/monmusutdx/
https://pc-play.games.dmm.co.jp/play/MistTrainGirlsX/
https://pc-play.games.dmm.co.jp/play/twinklestarknightsx/

[maotd]

Oh that's something interesting. Reminds me the old collabs on Nutaku. That's nice.
Thanks Myers.

[Tomitain]

Yeah, the non-adult version of MST requires that you use a VPN if you're outside of Japan. Even then, MST isn't shy about fanservice that stops short of actual nudity - one of the five in-game nations (Flamarine) is basically Banana Ocean + Lotus Lake and so the vast majority of the characters from there wear battle bikinis in most of their versions.

[maotd]

Well. I didn't know what I did wrong. I cleared all the tutorials (I guess. I went through all the mandatory choices until I'm free to do anything) on the 3 games but I didn't got my sweet gems :(

About the games, in the play order.
Monster Musume was surprisingly fun. I'm not into monster girls or tower defense and I'm really bad at it but it was okay to play it.
I'll rate it Cool/20.

Twinkle Star Knights has really animated scenes. Maybe way too much. I don't know if it's the same in the all age version but it throw so much suggestive things at you. Ass and boobs closeup in special skills are a bit embarassing. The nude girls on the gacha really kills me. I feel insulted for the players. Not really my cup of tea. I don't hate ass, boobs and nudes girls but not that way.
Fun fact, I skipped the mandatory H-scene but the girl sound effect was not. I ended the tutorial with a girl making really embarassing noises. God bless headphones :D
I'll rate it I'mNotThatHungry/20.

I kept Mist Train Girls for the last as I already knew it by name. It was a good balance between not awesome and not bad. The game seems really clean. But it has so many loading screens. I'm not really into it. It seems close to FKG but with a less appealing theme for me. The game seems generous also. I have only done the tutorial and I'm sitting on 167oo gacha currency. Not bad for 30oo currency gachas.
I'll rate it OkayButLoading/20.

Not related to games but you can play the DMM daily roulette twice with both regular DMM and Fanza. I'm not sure it's worth it but it's a thing.

[Myers]

Well. I didn't know what I did wrong. I cleared all the tutorials (I guess. I went through all the mandatory choices until I'm free to do anything) on the 3 games but I didn't got my sweet gems :(


Rewards will be sent after the campaign period. Which is kinda annoying because you can't know that you did it correctly until it's too late, but oh well.



Twinkle Star Knights has really animated scenes. Maybe way too much. I don't know if it's the same in the all age version but it throw so much suggestive things at you. Ass and boobs closeup in special skills are a bit embarassing. The nude girls on the gacha really kills me. I feel insulted for the players. Not really my cup of tea. I don't hate ass, boobs and nudes girls but not that way.
Fun fact, I skipped the mandatory H-scene but the girl sound effect was not. I ended the tutorial with a girl making really embarassing noises. God bless headphones :D
I'll rate it I'mNotThatHungry/20.


I quite liked it :P At least the busty girls. I also got a bug that caused the moaning from the h scene to continuously play.

[Tomitain]

I kept Mist Train Girls for the last as I already knew it by name. It was a good balance between not awesome and not bad. The game seems really clean. But it has so many loading screens. I'm not really into it. It seems close to FKG but with a less appealing theme for me. The game seems generous also. I have only done the tutorial and I'm sitting on 167oo gacha currency. Not bad for 30oo currency gachas.
I'll rate it OkayButLoading/20.

Yeah, as a f2p player I'm definitely a fan of how generous Mist is with its gachas. Most of them cost 3000 in-game currency or 1500 bought currency for a ten roll with 3/17/80 odds for pulling a SS/S/A rank character per roll. Usually the ten roll has the additional perk of the last roll forcing 3/97/0 odds so you're guaranteed at least one solid character. Mist still occasionally hits the #1 spot in the popularity rankings too, meaning every player gets 1000 mist gems (sometimes it's 3000 gems) along with some medium stamina potions.

[maotd]

Oh. That's a really bad idea. I guess it's a way to force people do more than the actual tutorial just in case.


I quite liked it :P At least the busty girls.
Okay maybe it was fun first five minutes. But it should be annoying on battles on the long run. I guess there is a way to skip these animations and make battles faster though.
I think i'm looking more for the game than the hentai part. That's what I like in FKG. Things are pretty soft out of the H-scenes, even in the adult version. Girls can have really sexy outfits and thant's way enough (even if there is some absurdly sexy outfits close to actual nudity like Tomitain said but I don't like them that much usually).

Jokes and exagerated critics appart, testing other games for a while was fun. But it's really hard to get in when you don't understand what's going on. Nutaku's FKG was what it was but helped a lot to get used to the game's basics before moving on DMM. That's why it feels so intuitive despite being fully in japanese. I'd really like to have thoughs of new players (who don't speak japanese of course).

[Tomitain]

I'll admit that if Mist hadn't gotten an English version on Johren and Nutaku then I wouldn't like it nearly as much as I do now. Having a translation available helped me figure out what the various settings and buttons did in the DMM version and also let me learn about the various characters so I could develop favorites like I have with Choco Lily and Toad Lily (among others) in FKG.

[NBPEL]

The collab seems pretty underwhelming. At least, you can easily get Vervain/Curcuma Yukata or one of the many Silk Tree version. If any of them is worth the gems. I was hyped by Silk Tree School but it seems she is one of the less godd parallel academy girl.

I got Vervain and Bridal Anemone from that banner, I think I actually wasted my precious FS.

But on the bright side I think Bridal Anemone is pretty decent.

[maotd]

Unless you already have Chamomille, Vervain is not a waste.

[NBPEL]

Yeah, I have Roman, but think about the cost that discounted banner only costs me 15.000FS which is pretty acceptable and Bridal Anemone as a bonus, I should've picked Silk Tree School instead of Vervain though.

But overall that banner is pretty weak so it doesn't matter if I picked Vervain or Silk Tree.

[Myers]

To be safe, it's probably best to log into the other games for at least 2 days during the campaign.

[maotd]

Well actually, ou can get only 50oo FG from the collab. Not 65oo. It's said in the collabnotice under the game. However, it seems we can get 15oo stones from twitter campaign.

[NBPEL]

I'm trying to compare Twinleaf (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Twinleaf) and Bush Clover (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bush_Clover):

- Both have 100% atk buff
- Twinleaf has extra boss damage 80%
- Bush Clover has more Act Again
- Both have Combo Hit 20% which is the real deal

So does Twinleaf is really better than Bush ?

Twinleaf:

Ability icon01[For self] Increase Attack by 100%
Ability icon16[For self] Increase Act Again Rate by 60% ( ? )

Ability icon16[For self] Combo Hit using 20% of your Damage dealt ( ? )

Ability icon11[For self] Increase Boss Damage by 80%
Ability icon39[For self] Increase Weakness Damage by 80%


Bush:

Ability icon01[For self] Increase Attack by 100%

Ability icon39[For self] Increase Weakness Damage by 100%
Ability icon16[For self] Increase Act Again Rate by 100% (Limit Break) ( ? )
Ability icon16[For self] Combo Hit using 20% of your Damage dealt ( ? )

Ability icon33[For all enemies] Reduce Hit Rate by 20% ( ? )

[maotd]

I've seen Twinleaf a lot as damage dealer but never Bush Clover. I'd say Bush Clover has more consistent damages but Twinleaf can hit harder with luck or buffs. I think Twinleaf is better overall. You have to rely on luck but with her better possible damages she can get kills Bush Clover can't. On Bush Clover side, she is avaibale with R-medals or 6* tickets but Twinleaf is not. That's a good point for her.

Speaking of good girls, I like the new event girl. She is a good free support and may replace White Tulip in my Tritoma team.
Also, White Tulip's flower family buffs found a use with Choco Lily swimsuit. Having free 150% crit damages is not bad. And they're both from Lily wood for a potential base core for Lily Wood Wolrd Flower girl whe she will came out.

[NBPEL]

Yeah, I feel the same somehow Bush Clover just doesn't deal as much damage as Twinleaf despite having the very similar kit.

I feel like the new event girl is a bit nerfed, her on attacked increases skill activation rate is only 1.5x, normally it should be 2x.

White Tulip is great, just it feels bad to not use 100% of her kit because it's very restriced

[Myers]

Dev livestream in 8 days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsjUK5iXo4c

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/xWJjH9Y.png

another useful winter rose girl

[NBPEL]

another useful winter rose girl

Then I gotta analyze her kit, it looks like she's a transform girl, and free 300% attack is something else:


[self] Increased attack power: 300%
[Self] Increased Damage: 100%
[self] continuous shooting 10%
[Myself] Critical rate rise: 40%
[5] Confirmed Guts: 2 times
-- the incarnation of fire and darkness.--
※ Battle skill change: Black Dragon Pulse Killing - Meteor
[Own] HP protection added: 100%
[himself] 15 consecutive shots%
[self] Increased attack power: 300%
[Self] Increased Damage: 100%
[Self] Boss Damage increased: 70%
[Myself] Reduced Damage: 50%
[Self] Transformed next turn action count decreased: 1

She has combo attack, crit rate, damage, boss damage.

She looks like a great attacker, on par with Pavonia or Corbett.

And the swimsuit banner looks great too, who should I pick from that banner ?

[Myers]

Nice wife

https://i.imgur.com/tXK1MB8.png

[maotd]

Congrats. She looks nice. I may try her too.

For the event swimsuit 6*, I think you need both. And maybe Alstroemeria Formal Dress and RRose Swimsuit. But I'm not sure counter is still worth it. Counter damages don't deal enough damages and worth the huge HP sacrifice in the current meta. Old Counter are too outclassed and you need to pack the newest ones to make something. I may be totally wrong though (I wish I am). I can't test it.

[NBPEL]

I summoned for her, I think she's very strong but currently I'm out of resource to max her out:

Showcase videos:


【花騎士】ナイドホグル編成 VS "コア級(高難易度★6)" (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2utd7SupxR8)
【花騎士】ナイドホグル編成 VS "王国の騎士" (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xZoyRPdlO2Y)
🌺フラワーナイトガール🌺【VS月輪� ��来訪者】ナイドホグル　火力試み (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T447uhxqvbw)

Pretty good for an attacker, so far, she's strong even without her transformation. :cool:


https://harem-battle.club/attachment.php?attachmentid=14702&d=1689730444

[smr]

also they updated on a tuesday (火曜日) because Nidhogg's an infernal girl...or something.

[NBPEL]

Some other showcases:



【花騎士】ナイドホグルの変身使っ� � �み
【フラワーナイトガール】実装され� � �ナイドホグルを使う【花騎士】

(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jww21W7FzAI)
(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jww21W7FzAI)

And this is my own showcase:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1A0yEYRvqs

She's just that bonker, dish out 1.5bil damage easily.

[maotd]

That's impressive. I love how you jump from 19M to 1.5B in one turn.
But I don't like how she just disappears when transformed. I know she is supposed to turn into Niddhog but it feels like something is missing. And when girls start to fall, it's hard to say if she is alive or not. It would have been better if she had alternative skin like Vervain and Chamomille.

[NBPEL]

But I don't like how she just disappears when transformed. I know she is supposed to turn into Niddhog but it feels like something is missing. And when girls start to fall, it's hard to say if she is alive or not. It would have been better if she had alternative skin like Vervain and Chamomille.

I believe this should be a bug, in her description it said she transform into "the incarnation of fire and darkness", it's wierd to not even have a chibi model.

[phob]

Yeah I am going to get her. Will be out of gems again:cry:

[NBPEL]

I'm kinda curious about Garden Phlox (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Garden_Phlox), I know that JP players like to use her and she looks strong but currently I have some very top tier units like Zinna, Adlay, Nidhogg, Corbett,... is she worth my FS anymore ?

What makes me interested about her is her playstyle, looks like she can make a team around her playstyle.

Another Nid's showcase:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG9FSi0Q54

[smr]

for those that didnt spend any money on DMM and have been region blocked due to DMM restricting access to the Games portion of the website, you can either use a VPN or use a japanese proxy IP (use a search engine), turn the function on and when the game loads turn it back off.

[maotd]

I don't get the proxy IP thing. Without proxy, I'm region blocked. With proxy, I got a 404 error at best. I don't really want to pay a VPN to play a free game. Thoses restrictions are really annoying.
What did you recommand for proxy?
I somehow managed to make it works but it's really tedious. I'm not sure how long I'll support that.

[NBPEL]

I don't get the proxy IP thing. Without proxy, I'm region blocked. With proxy, I got a 404 error at best. I don't really want to pay a VPN to play a free game. Thoses restrictions are really annoying.
What did you recommand for proxy?
I somehow managed to make it works but it's really tedious. I'm not sure how long I'll support that.

Epic Browser gives you a wide range of free proxies for almost all popular countries, the speed isn't too bad so you might want to give it a try.

https://www.epicbrowser.com/

[Myers]

Both mobile versions work.

For browser: I'm using a free VPN extension to open the page and then then immediately disconnecting once the page has opened. It seems the region block only checks the login at the start. Once the page is opened, it doesn't matter that you're outside Japan.

[maotd]

@Myers: What do you use for free extention? It may be more reliable than proxy.

[Myers]

@Myers: What do you use for free extention? It may be more reliable than proxy.

Tunnelbear VPN: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tunnelbear-vpn/omdakjcmkglenbhjadbccaookpfjihpa

There seems to be a general rule of thumb about not using free VPNs when doing things that's aren't so legal (torrenting), but it's fine for just getting past DMM's region block.

It requires email + password, for free it provides 2000 MB per month. This means you have to disconnect from the VPN as soon as the game's page loads, otherwise you're wasting data on FKG assets (which can be quite big).

[maotd]

Thanks Myers. I'll look for it.

Did the collab FG rewards were sent already? It endend and I got 10oo gems from unkown source. I wonder if I messed it or if it's totally different gems.

[Myers]

Thanks Myers. I'll look for it.

Did the collab FG rewards were sent already? It endend and I got 10oo gems from unkown source. I wonder if I messed it or if it's totally different gems.

I don't pay attention to gems so idk if collab gems came in yet. The 10oo from yesterday was compensation for an Item Pack bug.

[Tomitain]

I've been using Proton VPN so far. The free version requires a username and password like Tunnelbear does but it doesn't appear to have a monthly data usage cap. It has servers in three countries with the free version (USA, Netherlands, Japan) which is fine if all you intend to use it for is DMM games.

The lack of a monthly cap comes in handy for me since it seems like Mist is more persistent with its region lock (or I need to turn it off at a different point compared to FKG) - the game would switch to the standard maintenance screen when I turned off the VPN at the same point as I did with FKG.

EDIT: Ok, it looks like what I had to do was keep the VPN active until I got through the loading screens and the title screen then let the home screen load.

[smr]

time to spend my entire stamina potions on 8.5 anniversary regular stage for high level ampies, and not the EX one

[NBPEL]

time to spend my entire stamina potions on 8.5 anniversary regular stage for high level ampies, and not the EX one

Sounds pretty nice for someone new like me to catch up the high ampule game, so how can I trade for/buy high ampules, do I need to wait for the latter stage of the event to trade because currently I can't find a shop to trade ?

[maotd]

The regular event stage drop High ampules?

And finaly, the long awaited reroll gacha. And a new St Paulia and Canola.

edit: Until 8/7, you have acess to all the R-medals girls in the R-medal shop. If you want a specific one without waiting months, it's your chance.

[phob]

Damn Niddhoggr cost me a pity:eyeroll:
No way to get Canola or St Paulia.
Bonus gems may be enough to do re-roll. Have to look through it to see if any I even want.
Will be nice to get High amps:grin:

[smr]

reroll gacha's back so think im gonna get some random girl that buffs attack by 300% or some shit to one Attack Type

[phob]

Hinoki Academy so far is my best option I am seeing. Looks like its a cut off at new year.

[NBPEL]

I hope I didn't make the wrong decision, picked the last roll with Hinoki and Ivy (New Year), but the Dracanea and Hanamomo (Halloween) looks tasty too:

https://imgur.com/a/1D8nBHU

[maotd]

But how do you get high Ampules from this event? I didn't saw them anywhere.

For the reroll, I'm triyng Dracaena. It's the best chance to get her. School girls should be available in their 30FG gacha later. But I didn't see a single Dracaena so far. I always noticed it whit rerolls, some girls are rarer than others (certainly based on your account ID).
Now, I don't know if I should try more on Nidhogg gacha and then St Paulia or if I go on St Paulia right now. She was my starter on Nutaku. She deserves some efforts.

[NBPEL]

The rarity feels pretty much the same for me, some girls appear less often then other girls.

[NBPEL]

For an intercept unit, Saintpaulia Formal Dress looks exceptionally OP, she literally enables Honeysuckle Easter to be a full intercept unit with easy and free 30% dodge, x3 5x intercept, that alone makes her so valuable to build a great intercept team.

Definitely worth considering if you want to build a better intercept team (limit break the current best).



Ability icon55[For 5 allies] Retain 100% HP ( ? )
Ability icon19[For self] Increase Evade Rate by 70% ( ? )
Ability icon47[For 5 allies] Possible Guts 3x ( ? )

Ability icon46[For 5 allies] Increase Intercept Damage by 100% ( ? )
Ability icon19[For 4 allies, not self] After you Evade, on the next turn, increase Evade Rate by 30% (1x per turn) ( ? )
Ability icon13[For 5 allies] After an ally Evades, on the next turn, increase Skill Activation Rate by 1.5x (1x per turn) ( ? )

Ability icon01[For 5 allies] Increase Attack by 20%
Ability icon46[For 5 allies] After an ally Evades, increase Intercept Damage by 10% until the battle ends (Up to 5x) ( ? )
Ability icon46[For 5 allies] After an ally Evades, Grant "[For self] 100% chance to Intercept using 5x your Attack Power" until the battle ends (Up to 3x) ( ? )

[maotd]

St Paulia is awesome. Use her with the good easter bunnies and you could end on a good intercept team. I guess I'll try her anyway.

[phob]

For the reroll, I'm triyng Dracaena. It's the best chance to get her. School girls should be available in their 30FG gacha later.

Good point and she came without much rerolling so I took her:grin:
Ill get Hinoki later

[GForce]

So because of complications with the DMM version (in part because of the region locking and working with a generally potato older pc because my latest, newest one broke) I'm trying out the mobile version for now. Problem is, IDK what the menu that pops up when trying to click 'start' even says, and was wondering if data transfer/sharing is still possible (i can't find the definitive answer for my exact circumstances when looking it up)

[NBPEL]

Good point and she came without much rerolling so I took her:grin:
Ill get Hinoki later

Kinda disappoiting I didn't consider about upcoming school banner and picked this Hinoki School + Ivy New Year + other girl:

https://i.imgur.com/yafuJXD.png

Should have picked this roll:

https://i.imgur.com/Rf4NajA.png

[Myers]

So because of complications with the DMM version (in part because of the region locking and working with a generally potato older pc because my latest, newest one broke) I'm trying out the mobile version for now. Problem is, IDK what the menu that pops up when trying to click 'start' even says, and was wondering if data transfer/sharing is still possible (i can't find the definitive answer for my exact circumstances when looking it up)

Can you show a screenshot?

[GForce]

Initially didn't know how to share a screenshot through phone to potato computer, but here

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Besides, I'm more concerned with the data transfer if that's a thing.

[Myers]

Initially didn't know how to share a screenshot through phone to potato computer, but here

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Besides, I'm more concerned with the data transfer if that's a thing.

That's just the terms of service, left (red) is a agree.

And yes, data is shared from desktop account to mobile.

[maotd]

I think we don't talk enough about Aphelandra (https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Aphelandra). She is quite good for an event girl. Even her bloomed 5* form. she takes time to build up but she has nice buff just by herself. (Her boobs are too fake though. Not good).

Dracaena is a lie and everyone who "got" her is part of the conspiracy! The moon is flat and the center of earth is made out of spaghetti! You won't get me!!

[smr]

rarity growth crystal stage all day erryday...until Nazuna day ends

[NBPEL]

Honestly should I farm the current event or should I focus on the whale stages, they give a tons of FS which I desperately need for my future Vervain/Roman's project to get Bridal Ivy and the nun.

Up to this point I've cleared 100% endgame, I think it's pretty decent for a new player.

Well, Turniprape Formal Dress is actually pretty powerful, I thought she was a net loss lmao:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O828wQkrAs

[maotd]

What so special about the event stage? It just gives a bit more event currency and the regular event stage stuff I guess.

[Myers]

What so special about the event stage? It just gives a bit more event currency and the regular event stage stuff I guess.

I think you might be referring to how it was bugged in the first few hours of the event and dropped high ampules a lot, this was soon fixed according to patch notes.

[maotd]

Oh I see. I didn't got any High ampules (I guess I went too late anyway). Thanks. Too bad I could't take advantage of it.

[NBPEL]

I also couldn't.

Turniprape is definitely my favorite speedrun girl, she doesn't need to ramp and outputs pretty good damage with 15% combo attack, 3x150% pursuit, 150% damage, 100% attack and she pairs really well with Adlay with her skill drain and damage = 50%HP.

I think she's better than Twinleaf and I wanted Twinleaf before but I guess I will leave her in my waifu list, pretty good design but not needed anymore, I also remove Corn Cockle from my wishlist because Turnip is straight up better than her for my Sigilaria team.

I will try to figure out a Sigilaria+Turnip team

[maotd]

I'm not sure she can outclass Tritoma as speedrunning but I'll give her a try (right after I'm done with St Paulia lvlup).

I just don't understand her buffs:

[For self] After you do a Critical Attack, on the next turn, increase Damage by 50% (3x per turn)
[For self] After you do a Critical Attack, on the next turn, Combo Hit using 5% of your Damage dealt (3x per turn)
Girls can attack only up to twice in the same turn right? Why +5% Combo Hit and +50% Damages 3 times after crit on the next turn if you can attack only once? Or does it count her skill as 3 attacks since Crit can occur individually?

[NBPEL]

Just like Corn Cockle I guess, she's a multi-hit unit so each hit counts as an individual attack.

In this video at the end she didn't crit her 1st hit, but did crit her 2nd and didn't crit her 3rd hit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_O828wQkrAs?wmode=opaque

Is it me or the whaleship is harder than High Difficulty Maps, honestly the requirement (stats) seems to be high to success.

[Castell]

Is it me or the whaleship is harder than High Difficulty Maps, honestly the requirement (stats) seems to be high to success.

Technically you could easily reach the stat requeriments by wasting your resources in all the other knights you are not atcually using, but as I say, it's a waste.

[maotd]

Fill your ships with lvl80 5*. It's more than enough. I think equipement stats count for Ship Power so, event 5* are more interesting. If you keep all your new girls lvl1 it will take some time, effort and ressources for sure. That's the point of the Whale Ship. But it's not that hard and not hard at all compared to the hardest stuff.

[NBPEL]

Kinda rough for me atm, could be because of my lack of resources for being a new player, I probably missed a tons of good stuffs counting from day 1. Centies and ampules are my current progress wall.

I find it's easy to beat Ancient Girls and stuffs tho:

https://i.imgur.com/BkMxEAJ.png

[Myers]

FYI if anyone wants to know event specifics or how to play the minigames, check the wiki event page: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/8.5th_Anniversary_Popularity_Poll!

[smr]

infinite rarity growth stage is back, probably will be a regular thing every Nazuna days.

[maotd]

It is. That a good thing (especially with the recent good 5* RG) but I think it definitively kill any small chance of having a RG rework.

[smr]

https://i.imgur.com/BAk7YS9.jpg

loot from 2700 gacha tickets starting from Sakura

[Myers]

Poll Results: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/8.5th_Anniversary_Popularity_Poll!#Final_Results

Only #1 matters.

[GForce]

So I've been wondering about this for a while, but is there any good sources that cover much of Flower Knight Girl's transcript -- covering the lore, characterizations, or even side stories -- whether or not it's all in Japanese? I've been documenting as much as I could to edit for a certain wiki; having some particular trouble trying to find the dialogue for the character quests.

[Myers]

So I've been wondering about this for a while, but is there any good sources that cover much of Flower Knight Girl's transcript -- covering the lore, characterizations, or even side stories -- whether or not it's all in Japanese? I've been documenting as much as I could to edit for a certain wiki; having some particular trouble trying to find the dialogue for the character quests.

This page includes all the story translations on the Wiki: https://flowerknight.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Translations.

Pretty much all stories from the past 2+ years as well as some character quests.

[GForce]

While I appreciate the ease of access to all those translations, the character quests are looking like a drop in the bucket in comparison to the total flower knights. Though, the wiki discord might be a big help, depending on when help's available.

I guess the struggle with tv tropes continues...

[Castell]

I like swimsuit Bamboo more than the original, but I'm still wondering if I should roll for her.

[Tomitain]

It looks like there are three new gathering spots to collect resources from based on the regions 'outside' of Spring Garden and you can increase the cap on petite centies and high ampys now as well, 100 gems per +100 capacity for each (maximum of 12,000 capacity per resource).

[maotd]

I didn't know for the cap. That's a really good thing. I'm really low on gems now but I'll do this later for sure. Thoses new spots gives really cool rewards too like 3rd affection stuff, Aqua crystals and roken gacha tickets. I wish we could get thoses rare special skins tickets. They gave us some for free a long while ago but it's still pay walled.

Lore wise, I really like this new "outside" world. I wonder if there is flower knights outside. Or other girls like the pest-girls.
Now, we still wait for the hidden sky-nation. You can see stuff in the sky during Whale Ship missions. I always thought it would make a perfect place for a new Nation to discover like they did with Lotus Lake.

[smr]

for fucks sake KMS dont run 3 limited banners at the same time

[smr]

emergency maintenance took several hours but they compensated with about 55 gems...and then they added more limited banners. Im not gonna bother rolling for anyone for awhile until maybe 9th-10th anniversary.

[maotd]

I don't what that maintenance was about but 55 gems is very welcome.

Anyway, someone know how exactly the 66 event equipement bonuses works? Old equipement gives ATK buff, springs ones gives DEf and summer gives healing/HP but I don't get how I'm supposed to get them. I thought it was at 10/15/25 equipements on the whole party but even with 10 equipements, it seems I don't get the bonus.
With 15 mixed equipements, I managed to get +10% ATK. That's a bit unclear for me...

[phob]

GS Reprint. I miss that game.
..not enough to buy that Onci skin though:smirk:

That loli rabbit girl looks real good to have though.

edit:
saving my gems for now, holidays fast approaching.
RG Poisonberry is done though to use with Nidhogg:grin:

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[maotd]

Finaly, the last end-boss is back. Beating the giant moth with Nidhogg (girl) on Nidhogg (purified) back is odly satisfiying. Or maybe it's just Nidhogg obliterating everything on screen.
I didn't totally understood how this stuff works though. What are thoses 2h timers on phase 2? And why all the small fry battles are way harder than the actual boss on hard mode?
I did all the stages (phase 1 and 2) and bosses but the whole thing is not labeled as complete. Phase 1 and 2 are.
Even worse, Nidhogg event phase 1 is no longer labeled as complete even if all the stages are.

[phob]

Made a new team for the boss. Rolled for (5 rolls, fortunately:grin:) Bamboo swimsuit and put her with a Adlay and cut through that like butter.
IDK whats going on with the UI or the timer but that was fun and I still got 500 gems to roll for something again:bgrin:
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[maotd]

Nice team. I like that. Did your team also do so much damages that it cut through next phase lifebar?

[phob]

I think so. Done as far as I can tell. I used the winnings to build up Bamboo swimsuit.
It will be nice to bring on counter teams as needed on the fly:grin:
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[maotd]

I'd like to use counter again but it's so hard... I don't have Bamboo Suimsuit and I'm saving gems anyway. I just used that very original team to beat everything:
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Basically bruteforce everything through negate damages, guts and evasion. I wish there is a girl version of Midgardsormr and Hraesvelgr. It would be fun.

[Castell]

Halloween didn't go without leaving treats. What do you guys think of Corbett's alt?

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[maotd]

I'm not sure. I think regular Corbett is better. She looks like those Drop to 1% HP girls but half baked. Plus, she is able to kill herself or burn her guts with her debuff. She is high risk high reward but why will you want the risk when there is girls with even higher rewards?

[phob]

Halloween didn't go without leaving treats. What do you guys think of Corbett's alt?

14777

Yeah, I like the looks of Halloween but the abilities are better on the original. I got to pass.