New Year's Step Based Gacha Thread

[Wutan]

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I am curious. Who wants to do it?

It's expensive though. Step 1 costs 10000 Nutaku Gold and is the worst Step...

[MachThreeSlug]

3155

I am curious. Who wants to do it?

It's expensive though. Step 1 costs 10000 Nutaku Gold and is the worst Step...
I sincerely hope that's a typo. The fact that all of the steps are labelled Step 1 has me considering that.

[Dorei0sama]

Man they dont even know how to type. Are they serious?

[Rupturez]

It's 100% serious deal. 10k pay wall to get to good deals. You could potentially pay 180$ to get 22 random gold girls.

I say hell no. HELL NO.

[Wutan]

Man they dont even know how to type. Are they serious?

I think they don't give a fuck about correct descriptions, right Dendrobium? :p

Step 1 is Paywall Bullshit.

Step 3 is really good but 180 $ is really expensive.

No, i will wait for another Deal. I only want specific Girls...

[MachThreeSlug]

Yeah, I ain't touching this deal with a 30 foot stick.

[makinaz]

I used to look forward to these special gachas. I did pretty much all of the first seven or eight of them. Now I rarely buy any of them, the quality is worse and worse. How many whales are supporting this shit that these awful gachas continue?

[A Time to Screw]

https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4

[Drip]

Step 2 chance to get one or more rainbows: ~43.2%
Step 3 chance to get one or more rainbows: ~68.7%
Combined chance to get one or more rainbows in either or both step 2 and/or 3: 82.1%

Considering that there's a fair chance to get multiple rainbows, it's a pretty good deal. Considering that there's also a fair chance to get no rainbows, it's a pretty bad deal.
I wonder what Moarsi does. ADD SALT, Moarsi, YOU CAN DO EET!

[IvanLedah21]

Step 2 chance to get one or more rainbows: ~43.2%
Step 3 chance to get one or more rainbows: ~68.7%
Combined chance to get one or more rainbows in either or both step 2 and/or 3: 82.1%

Considering that there's a fair chance to get multiple rainbows, it's a pretty good deal. Considering that there's also a fair chance to get no rainbows, it's a pretty bad deal.
I wonder what Moarsi does. ADD SALT, Moarsi, YOU CAN DO EET!

The problem here is the 10k paywall those two steps are locked behind. If that didn't exist, it would be feasible, if not still pricey.

[Wutan]

Step 2 chance to get one or more rainbows: ~43.2%
Step 3 chance to get one or more rainbows: ~68.7%
Combined chance to get one or more rainbows in either or both step 2 and/or 3: 82.1%

Considering that there's a fair chance to get multiple rainbows, it's a pretty good deal. Considering that there's also a fair chance to get no rainbows, it's a pretty bad deal.
I wonder what Moarsi does. ADD SALT, Moarsi, YOU CAN DO EET!

Nah Moarsi won't do it. He doesn't pay for his 6* :p

In all honesty if Step 1 wasn't there i would consider it an amazing deal (you would basically get only 5* and above) but Step 1 ruins everything.

Look at it this way:

You pay 180 $ and maybe you will get 3 Rainbows if you are really lucky but you could also participate in three different Step Up Gachas (60$ each) where you can choose your 6*.

[Unregistered]

The problem here is the 10k paywall those two steps are locked behind. If that didn't exist, it would be feasible, if not still pricey.

The paywall is why the other two steps can be a minimum 22 golds.

[noheart09]

https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4

yeep that was my reaction when i saw it.

DA BAIT IS REAL DOOD O_o

[fate]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
You serious?
Even the whales of the discord street refuse to do it

[IvanLedah21]

The paywall is why the other two steps can be a minimum 22 golds.

True, but even making that paywall 5k instead of 10k would cut price down to $130 total (still a lot of money per whale) and wouldn't insta-turn-off almost everyone who sees it (seriously, only the most absurdly hardcore whales would think about this, and most of them probably have 90+% of the golds anyways)

[Unregistered]

why would anyone do this when you could chose 3 rainbows and get 3-6 random golds for the same price with the other step up gachas.

[fate]

True, but even making that paywall 5k instead of 10k would cut price down to $130 total (still a lot of money per whale) and wouldn't insta-turn-off almost everyone who sees it (seriously, only the most absurdly hardcore whales would think about this, and most of them probably have 90+% of the golds anyways)

only new whales and crazy whales will do this

[IvanLedah21]

I used to be a decent (not hard-core but solid) whale who invested in every guaranteed 6* deal, but outside of the Black Friday deal (which EVERYONE agrees was crazy good), I haven't spent on FKG in months. Their "deals" have not included a guaranteed 6* so I haven't gone for them. I don't know why they seem to think that gold units are the key to opening wallets (especially with the negative reactions on Discord, especially this time around; then again, Nameless is probably the only one who reads Discord and has no say in this stuff)

[Drip]

The paywall is why the other two steps can be a minimum 22 golds.
The paywall is why step 2 and 3 are only 5,000 and 3,000 NGold respectively. They could've made each step only 6,000 gold, but risk more people stopping at step 2 already, for a total of 12,000 NGold, while now step 2 takes an investment of 15,000 gold, leaving step 3 too good to pass up.

[Eab1990]

Ahaha, they really gotta make up for November's generosity, huh.

Updating the list once more.

1. Ticket #1 (7/01 - 7/08): Anemone / Cactace / Cattleya / Dendrobium
2. Step-Up #1 (8/05 - 8/12): Random (up to and including Daisy)
3. Ticket #2 (8/12 - 8/19): Fritillaria / Sakura / Mei Plumblossom
4. Step-Up #2 (9/02 - 9/09): Kerria
5. Ticket #3 (9/08 - 9/17, player-voted): Alpinia / Anemone / Flowering Peach
6. Step-Up #3 (9/15 - 9/22): (Bridal) Cactace, $110 total
7. Ticket #4 (9/29 - 10/06): Cherry / Daisy / Dianthus
8. Step-Up #4 (10/06 - 10/13): Dogwood + ten $5 bonus steps for possible rainbow skill/dressbloom
9. Step-Up #5 (10/13 - 10/20): Black Baccara
10. Ticket #5 (10/20 - 10/27): Dendrobium / Ionocidium / Fritillaria
11. 5* Step-Up #1 (10/27 - 11/3): Four steps, $66 total, 1-2 random golds + a choice of any gold (prior to Lantana / Apple of Sodom)
12. 10+1 FG roll guaranteed gold special (11/3 - 11/10): Bridal Oncidium, 20% chance vs. 80% random gold
13. Early Black Friday (11/10 - 11/17): Sakura only, $30 single-roll
14. 5* Ticket #1 (11/17 - 11/24): Single roll, $30 each (up to three times), pick any gold (prior to Epidendrum / Snapdragon)
15. Black Friday ticket special (11/25 - 11/28): $10 11-roll, pick any rainbow except Lycoris / Bridal Oncidium
16. Step-Up #6 (12/2 - 12/9): Lycoris + $30 rainbow skill/dressbloom
17. Step-Up #7 (12/15 - 12/22): Christmas Rose + three steps, 1x secret gift each, NO guaranteed golds
18. Early Christmas special (12/22 - 12/29): Apple/Ivy only, $30 each
19. New Year's Step-Up (12/30/16 - 1/6/17): Three 11-roll steps, step 1 ($100): regular rates, step 2 ($50): 5* and 6* only (95%/5%), step 3 ($30): 5* and 6* only (90%/10%)

[Wutan]

in the end this Gacha hurts Nutaku more than it hurts us.

I don't think there are that many people spending money for this Gacha.

December was a really bad month in terms of Special Gachas.

I hope we will get at least some Standard Deals in the near future (Nerine Step Up Gacha, Victoria Step Up Gacha, Bride Oncidium Step Up Gacha etc.)

If they decide to continue the current Bad/Semi-Bad Gacha streak i will spend my money on the DMM Version exclusively.

[Eab1990]

From a marketing perspective, they certainly did rush things.

November definitely brought in potential spenders.

December likely turned them away just as fast.

[Zenithale]

Welcome to the year of hungry whales!
Honestly, Nutaku's greed knows no limit... :( ... 180€... which is enough to buy 4+ complete PC/Console Games...

[nazrin992]

From a marketing perspective, they certainly did rush things.

November definitely brought in potential spenders.

December likely turned them away just as fast.
Now that is what I call Good Marketing Strategy. :rolleyes:

Welcoming the New Year with a shameless Pay Wall. Good old Nutaku.

[Drip]

Just a few things holding me back:
-If I were to pull any rainbows (so far, all my rainbows were guaranteed deals), it'd probably be one or more Black Baccara dupes. But I have no interest in playing with BB, and already keep her benched anyway.
-I probably still wouldn't pull Poinsetia
-December is a bloody expensive month as it is, and I'm already looking forward to my next paycheck, which is still more than 3 weeks away. So this would be a more tempting deal in a "cheaper" month, like, March, perhaps? Or maybe May, in that month we often get "holiday savings" payout around here.

If anything, I'd probably suggest changing the 11-draws into 10-draws + a guaranteed roll ticket. Like, a 5* guaranteed ticket for the first step, a 6* guaranteed ticket for the second, and a "pick your favourite 6*" ticket for the third step. Yes, it's pretty easy to turn a mediocre deal into an awesome deal.

[Distortedrealms]

Suppose you could you say I have been a whale more than once on this game and I do not regret it but this is beyond ridiculous, no thank you.

[kringley]

I'm vaguely contemplating it. The size of the upfront payment is quite large, and if you've been playing since the start and have a good collection already then it probably isn't a good value. My collection isn't particularly large (2 rainbows, 1 from BF) and about 10 or so gacha golds (and 7 or so event golds). The first step is clearly not worth it but the 2nd two make up for it if you're in that situation and willing to shell out. It would still be problematic for me to get a lot of use out of those girls and it guarantees that I'd be broke (in game $) for months for leveling and evolutions. Still thinking about it though. It'd likely be the only time I took a deal like that.

Update:
Ok, I just pulled the Limited 1 gacha after having gotten in the extra 5 FGs from the compensation. Rolled Flowering Peach, Black Baccara, Kale, and dupes of Setaria and Lupine. I'm probably set for a long time with that...

[Jinxer]

One of the biggest NOPE's of 2016.

[smr]

looks like they really did make someone mad among their management team with the Black Friday Gacha, this New Year's gacha is so greedy as shit

[Wutan]

looks like they really did make someone mad among their management team with the Black Friday Gacha, this New Year's gacha is so greedy as shit

Yep but greed doesn't work in the long run. History told us :p

I think there are some generous guys working for Nutaku but they always get their butts kicked from their bosses...

They will lose a lot of customers if they continue this path.

[nazrin992]

Doing something beneficial and pleases their customers: TRIGGERED

[VortexMagus]

There's a small but significant chance of not a single rainbow at all. I wouldn't consider this gacha even at half price: nobody who plays a lot lacks for 5stars anyway. The only reason to drop this much money is for multiple rainbows, which are not guaranteed and which may be dupes anyway.

[maotd]

Woah. they make a gacha worse than Cactace Bride's. Well done Nutaku. Well done.
For the 5*6* gacha, I'm not even sure 6* have not their usual 0.5% chance. It's just a pay 180 €/$/tears of blood for a lot of golds and dupe golds. With maybe some 6*. If the RNG god is with you.

[Wutan]

Woah. they make a gacha worse than Cactace Bride's. Well done Nutaku. Well done.
For the 5*6* gacha, I'm not even sure 6* have not their usual 0.5% chance. It's just a pay 180 €/$/tears of blood for a lot of golds and dupe golds. With maybe some 6*. If the RNG god is with you.

Yeah the Problem is that our Gacha Pool isn't that large compared to the Japanese Version. Pulling Dupes is kinda expected.

The chances for 6* are good but RNG could always screw you and i won't spend that much money for a pile of salt. I already got one of the weakest 5* from RNG sama last week (luckily it didn't cost me anything), that's enough salt for this month.

Guaranteed Deals = Best Deals :p

[Rampage]

Gotta thank Nutaku for this latest Gacha, after some disagreements in the forum we had lately, it nice to see everyone united in agreeing how terrible this Gacha is, like really, i thought it was...

[smr]

next month will just go back to deals offering gold knights for 30 dollars & rainbow ones for 60 dollars as usual.

[AgentFakku]

Unless it's $30 or less for a rainbow or has a unit on my To Recruit Army: Black Baccara or Anemone

No idea what my limit would be for gold units in terms of $. Maybe, I only spend $ on Gacha only for Rainbows since I'm hoarding Flower Gems right now to get the New Year Event gurls which is weird, They have more new event gurls than Xmas 2016

I won't touch this Gacha

[Dorei0sama]

Unless it's $30 or less for a rainbow or has a unit on my To Recruit Army: Black Baccara or Anemone
I open my wallet if they allow me to choose an 6*fkg for 30$. But it's unlikely they ll have that deal any time soon, especially when there are people who would spend 200+ $ to max their fkg and 80$ is average spending for normal whale.

[Discoceris]

There's a small but significant chance of not a single rainbow at all. I wouldn't consider this gacha even at half price: nobody who plays a lot lacks for 5stars anyway. The only reason to drop this much money is for multiple rainbows, which are not guaranteed and which may be dupes anyway.

^ This

Remember that salt over the 50% rainbow? Imagine if you dropped $180 and not a single Rainbow appeared. That's called anal raping in the most strictest usage of that term.

[smr]

^ This

Remember that salt over the 50% rainbow? Imagine if you dropped $180 and not a single Rainbow appeared. That's called anal raping in the most strictest usage of that term.

They really dont understand how mindboggling it is to paywall the first step with 100 dollars, even their useless moderators on their discord chat tells players to do the gacha at their own risk.

[Zerana]

Most step-up deals are pretty bad, but this one seems awful. I'm still waiting on the 5* ticket gotcha.

[smr]

Dont forget that getting multiple dupes of the same gold knight is a thing which nobody really knows why it happens, and can make the aforementioned anal raping worse if its dupes you do not care for.

[wolf]

Perhaps that is the Marketing tactic they are using "give 'em a really shitty deal then switch back to $60 deals and it will look like the best deals ever, then we will make boat loads of money muah...

[sniddy]

Perhaps that is the Marketing tactic they are using "give 'em a really shitty deal then switch back to $60 deals and it will look like the best deals ever, then we will make boat loads of money muah ha ha ha ha" or something to that effect.

I wish I din't agree with you

[nazrin992]

Perhaps that is the Marketing tactic they are using "give 'em a really shitty deal then switch back to $60 deals and it will look like the best deals ever, then we will make boat loads of money muah ha ha ha ha" or something to that effect.
This is feasible. After all of this deals, people will look at 60$ deals like it is gifts from heaven and says "it is not as bad deal as before so you all should be grateful".

Give them some credit? Yeah, a point. Be grateful? Yeah, no.

[Eab1990]

Step-up deals *were* getting improved for a bit, until Christmas Rose happened and decided to shit on that by not even guaranteeing a 5*.

[Discoceris]

So this is in contrast to a game I play called Granblue Fantasy. So far, during the holidays, I received 200 crystals daily (free), plus 9,000 crystals (3,000 for New Years and 6,000 for Christmas) ... if you add everything up, that's 15,000 crystals for free for this holiday event, equivalent to $150 USD. They also have 3,000 mobacoin ($30) guarantee draws every 2 months (you get a ticket and you can pick ANY character you want from the current pool)

So why would I drop $180 for this gacha event when you get better deals in an arguably better developed, better managed game (overall, really)

[nazrin992]

So this is in contrast to a game I play called Granblue Fantasy. So far, during the holidays, I received 200 crystals daily (free), plus 9,000 crystals (3,000 for New Years and 6,000 for Christmas) ... if you add everything up, that's 15,000 crystals for free for this holiday event, equivalent to $150 USD. They also have 3,000 mobacoin ($30) guarantee draws every 2 months (you get a ticket and you can pick ANY character you want from the current pool)

So why would I drop $180 for this gacha event when you get better deals in an arguably better developed, better managed game (overall, really)
Wait until Nutaku get its hands on it:rolleyes:

[Mitoru]

Ok, since for christmas I got mostly $ as presents I was feeling cheeky and decided to try this "deal"
Something i got really salty is not all 5* girls were in the pool. I really wanted Dahlia and Camellia bride and guess what? They weren't in.
Overall I AM satisfied with the results, the only girls i'd consider meh (from steps 2-3) would be German Iris and Saffron Tulip. Worth noting that almost every girl i give a crap about got her skill up from the dupes so I'm pretty happy there too. Actually the only one who didn't was... Oncidum bride lul.
So in order of step 1-2-3
3211

3212

3213

Probably not worth the risk in the end but yolo.

[Dorei0sama]

Ok, since for christmas I got mostly $ as presents I was feeling cheeky and decided to try this "deal"
Something i got really salty is not all 5* girls were in the pool. I really wanted Dahlia and Camellia bride and guess what? They weren't in.
Overall I AM satisfied with the results, the only girls i'd consider meh (from steps 2-3) would be German Iris and Saffron Tulip. Worth noting that almost every girl i give a crap about got her skill up from the dupes so I'm pretty happy there too. Actually the only one who didn't was... Oncidum bride lul.
So in order of step 1-2-3
3211

3212

3213

Probably not worth the risk in the end but yolo.

3 rainbows one 10+1 pull, that's worth the payment :D. Anyway, congratz on getting fritillaria and duped Oncidium bride (is that the 3rd duped?).

[Mitoru]

Yeah I allready had her. :P