Mystic Sorcery Revival event guide

[ZeroZet]

Good timeofaday, brave Princes! It is that time of the week again, and it is another Revival time! As per our tradition, we had our "new" event, and now we are going back to farm somebody familiar.
So let's relive the Mystic Sorcery!

Revival runs: 2017-01-24 to 2017-01-31
http://assets.millennium-war.com/00/html/image/event20170124.jpg


Rewards
This is a Unit Farm event.
http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/4c66d4c75de4501e.png

(Re)Introducing the Mystic Folklorist Odette (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Odette), the only unit having (dubious) honor of wielding a 16-level skill. At least said skill gives you an unique ability to shield an entire party from (a portion of a) magic damage. She herself is a very solid Platinum Mage, and while lack of damage boost on skill may put her behind some others in terms of combined AoE DPS, her sustained performance among non-black mages is second only to Sasha (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Sasha). Awakening reinforces her anti-magic role, giving her additional 10 MR. And Skill Awakening, whenever we'd be getting it, turns her skill on head and gives her ability to halve enemies MR in range, while increasing that range in process.
Unfortunately, she is not too ancient to have a standard 5 CR to do) And even more unfortunately, she inherently costs 2 UP more than her Platinum peers even when both at max CR(


http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/47638e75c5f5d5b6.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/674afc1362468157.png


Noted enemies:


┌───────────┬───� �─────────┬──────� ��┬──────┬──────┬─ ───┬─────┬──────� �──────────────┐
│ Name │ Attack type │ HP │ Atk │ Def │ MR │ AS │ Notes │
╞═══════════╪═══� �═════════╪══════� ��╪══════╪══════╪═ ═══╪═════╪══════� �══════════════╡
│ Odette (http://gyazo.com/1a3e4440467481dfc3d0a4a7b34dcd9f.png) │ Magical │ 2400 │ 300 │ 20 │ 0 │ 90 │ Map 2 / │
│ │ Ranged │ 3000 │ 300 │ 20 │ 0 │ 90 │ Map 4 | splash AoE │
│ │ │ 24000 │ 500 │ 100 │ 0 │ 90 │ Map 5 \ │
├───────────┼───� �─────────┼──────� ��┼──────┼──────┼─ ───┼─────┼──────� �──────────────┤
│ Ghost (http://gyazo.com/5642a278fd3a683c5b92d149839c0377.png) │ Physical │ 500 │ 300 │ 700 │ 0 │ 70 │ Map 4 (attacks units│
│ Armor │ "Melee" │ │ │ │ │ │ (whom touches │
└───────────┴───� �─────────┴──────� ��┴──────┴──────┴─ ───┴─────┴──────� �──────────────┘

Stat correction: 0.7 for first maps, 0.8 for second, 0.9 for third, 1.0 for forth, 1.2 for fifth.


Maps

The Mystic Folklorist


┌──────────┬────� �────────────┬───� ��──╥────────────┬ ────╥───────────� �┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 15 ║ Experience │ 100 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼────� �────────────┼───� ��──╫────────────┼ ────╫───────────� �┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 0 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 450 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 31 │
└──────────┴────� �────────────┴───� ��──╨────────────┴ ────╨───────────� �┴────┘

What is the identity of a magician attacked by demons?!
Gimmick: -
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/b655afd021d1dd49.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7UwUdfZMwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-0H77PNB-g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y-ogRoPpwo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skDsoq70unQ
Drops: none


Monster Extermination E


┌──────────┬────� �────────────┬───� ��──╥────────────┬ ────╥───────────� �┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 25 ║ Experience │ 300 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼────� �────────────┼───� ��──╫────────────┼ ────╫───────────� �┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 2 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1125 ║ Life │ 20 ║ Enemies │ 78 │
└──────────┴────� �────────────┴───� ��──╨────────────┴ ────╨───────────� �┴────┘

Show your skill to successors of secret!
Gimmick: your units deal 30% less magic damage. Physical damage is unaffected.
Map: http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/b90c5bfe5c1c8f60.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9o5D_M4KY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQyiVW45p_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzimyIYiPms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA4MYSj5Ql0
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/1e3c3336ddd6cef0.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2d951f392058326f.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/48c47cdf69b17aff.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/dYkR9W8x.png


Monster Extermination N


┌──────────┬────� �────────────┬───� ��──╥────────────┬ ────╥───────────� �┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 30 ║ Experience │ 350 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼────� �────────────┼───� ��──╫────────────┼ ────╫───────────� �┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 3 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1500 ║ Life │ 20 ║ Enemies │ 70 │
└──────────┴────� �────────────┴───� ��──╨────────────┴ ────╨───────────� �┴────┘

Let's take a wave-like attack of the sky and the land one by one.
Gimmick: your units deal 50% less magic damage. Physical damage is unaffected.
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/af7ae7bd3539bffa.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDAhlBb95s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD4C5AyeK_k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTsbQ_qTytk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg9OsUZ0qqY
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2b952310af928a2f.png http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/2d2f2a676fb9c76b.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/pWd9kzfFi.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/dYkR9W8x.png


Monster Extermination H


┌──────────┬────� �────────────┬───� ��──╥────────────┬ ────╥───────────� �┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 35 ║ Experience │ 400 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼────� �────────────┼───� ��──╫────────────┼ ────╫───────────� �┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 3 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 1875 ║ Life │ 20 ║ Enemies │ 64 │
└──────────┴────� �────────────┴───� ��──╨────────────┴ ────╨───────────� �┴────┘

Confront your opponent boasting high defense!
Gimmick: your units deal 70% less magic damage. Physical damage is unaffected. Ghost Armors can wander through ranged spots
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/468a79489cf09ed0.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXBqIqkjcdA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hb9kPYs87A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRXyvWrIXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piQeaFB3cG0
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/1e3c3336ddd6cef0.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/74102971285afe2c.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/c935bc11b8032923.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/dYkR9W8x.png


Monster Extermination X


┌──────────┬────� �────────────┬───� ��──╥────────────┬ ────╥───────────� �┬────┐
│ Charisma │ 60 ║ Experience │ 500 ║ Initial UP │ 10 ║ Max deploy │ 8 │
├──────────┼────� �────────────┼───� ��──╫────────────┼ ────╫───────────� �┼────┤
│ Stamina │ 6 ║ Gold @ 3* │ 4500 ║ Life │ 10 ║ Enemies │ 99 │
└──────────┴────� �────────────┴───� ��──╨────────────┴ ────╨───────────� �┴────┘

The final battle is against opponent horde overwhelming by both quality and quantity!
Gimmick: your units deal 90% less magic damage. Physical damage is unaffected.
Map: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/95d27c979f626c1f.png
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vevyJEvUecM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2GIL7OSGa8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t7XSDfDiHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eU6QNy5iGE
Drops: http://image01.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/1e3c3336ddd6cef0.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/974e526f9c3a4500.png http://image02.seesaawiki.jp/a/s/aigis/9351693b4f8acb4c.png http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2015/12/15/dYkR9W8x.png



Drop rates (estimated):

┌───────────────� �────────────────� ��┬─────────────── ─────┐
│The Mystic 15 │ │ │
│Folklorist 0 │ │ │
├───────────────� �────────────────� ��┼─────────────── ─────┤
│Monster 25/2 │ Odette ( 4%) │ Ars (25%) │
│Extermination E│ Iron Mage (50%) │ DCx1 (15%) │
├───────────────� �────────────────� ��┼─────────────── ─────┤
│Monster 30/2 │ Valerie (10%) │ DCx1 (20%) │
│Extermination N│ Russel (25%) │ DCx2 (20%) │
├───────────────� �────────────────� ��┼─────────────── ─────┤
│Monster 35/2 │ Odette ( 8%) │ Iron Heavy (50%) │
│Extermination H│ Bernard (10%) │ DCx1 (15%) │
├───────────────� �────────────────� ��┼─────────────── ─────┤
│Monster 60/6 │ Odette (50%) │ Roy (25%) │
│Extermination X│ Calliope (10%) │ DCx1 (15%) │
└───────────────� �────────────────� ��┴─────────────── ─────┘



Comments about the event
Seeing as it is a revival of an rather ancient event, maps should pose no real problem for any developed army, not to mention Awakened one :D You should prepare for rushes as there are quite a number of enemies to slay there. And be mindful of magic-decreasing gimmick this event's maps have, so drop witches, magi and princesses in favor of archers/pirates, artillerists and bandits/valkyries.
Also, don't bother trying to max out Odette's skill, as it would take about 41 copy of her on average. Instead aim for max CR and then feed her skillmax spirit later, when she will be introduced to our side.

There are some silvers to choose from:

Mage (Valerie (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Valerie)) (map 3);
Heavy Infantry (Bernard (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Bernard)) (map 4);
Witch (Calliope (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Calliope)) (map 5).
And all relevant maps drop (one) Demon Crystal (with N dropping extra two), so there's that)




New Characters Arriving
None?


New Classes Being Introduced
None


All Hail to the Revivals! :cool:

ЗЫ. Links:

MWAWiki (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Mystic_Sorcery) (EN)
Seesaa (http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%cb%e2%bd%d1%a4%ce%c8%eb%cb%a1) (JP)
wikiwiki (http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/%3F%cb%e2%bd%d1%a4%ce%c8%eb%cb%a1) (JP)
GCWiki (http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%CB%E2%BD%D1%A4%CE%C8%EB%CB%A1) (JP)
Original event's thread (http://harem-battle.club/millennium-war-aigis/122-mystic-sorcery-guide.html) (JP)

[Blaxer]

Already have her mincosted, so mini-tin-can farming event for me :D (not even interested in the silvers since i have enough of those 3)

[lolix]

i dont ahve her mincosted actually. RNG failed me. still at 3/4 cr , so this is a welcome event

[Eab1990]

Bah, I forgot how garbage these silver drops were. Meh.

[Tenhou]

Another week of break for me it seems. Well, i guess i do need some time to raise those AW'd characters. I really hope they stop giving us revivals as separate events and just put them in during the first or second week of star events or something.

[Arkinum]

I completely missed this event due to the fact that I went on hiatus. Commission sortie wasn't implemented at the time and grinding took way too long.

So this is kind of a "new" event for me.

[DMAsh]

Well, at least I already have a head start on this event, having gotten a few Odettes from New Years' Gold Rush.

[Buster Wolf]

When I started playing I was only able to do the first map right before the event ended, so looking forward to getting her

[Ramazan]

Well err, you didnt needed to put her japanese image, for obvious reasons :v guess most of us wont need your guide tis time cuz old event but thanks anyway as always :o

[AgentFakku]

Cool, I got a headstart since last Gold Rush gave me 2 Odettes

Never did the original event since I started in Jul 2016

Damn, not much to grind for Silver wise compared to Vampire Counterattack

[JSmith12]

Ah, Odette. I have seen her many times over on DMM's daily revival though I didn't farm much her mostly because her skill max level is truly maddening. I hope there aren't many units like that.

Now being that this is a revival we have to ask the typical revival questions. How long will it last? Will we get the next main event when it is over? Are we getting a break afterwards? And the somewhat tiresome yet understandable, when will Nutaku catch up or at least follow a similar format to DMM?

On the last one I am curious, at what state was DMM when they had the Vampire's Counter Attack? If it was similar to Nutaku's present state then at least we can say that we are following a pre-designed format and things will come along in good time.

[slyyr]

Hmm... looks like I'll be farming Odettes and Witches for most of next week.

[Ericridge]

I need at least two more witches to start the awakening process for Belinda. Hoping I get lucky and bag the witches fast.

[ZeroZet]

Now being that this is a revival we have to ask the typical revival questions. How long will it last?
>_> ... <_<
Read the first post, really.
:mad:


Will we get the next main event when it is over? Are we getting a break afterwards?It's Nutaigis, so who knows. But if JPDev Tea continues with their good behavior, then next week we can expect either a new event (with a good chance of it being Nagi's Item Collection) or one of skipped ones. And revivals are new breaks ;)


And the somewhat tiresome yet understandable, when will Nutaku catch up or at least follow a similar format to DMM? NEVER

Besides, catching up is a stupid idea to begin with, as it would require skipping of inordinate amount of events, and for naught but getting same event as japanese players, event that we would get anyway if we just followed the schedule?
Following the similar format, with revivals being run alongside the new events, now that's better idea, but considering how just a couple of months ago norm was "new event - break - revival - break" our current pace is already a huge improvement. Let's see how long Dev Tea would be able to keep it up first.

[Tinkermane]

Mel and Mikoto really made these maps stupidly easy. H threw me off at the start with the spirit armors that don't follow the road, but that was the only real hiccup. Mikoto destroyed their physical defense and Mel hit them every bit as hard as one of my mages. Every other unit I laid down just felt like icing on the cake.

[ToTeras]

I've used Odette a lot on DMM, although nowadays Sereina has taken her place. But with Mikoto, Mehlis and Noel in Nutaku I feel I should probably skip her. That being said, I will farm the last map in off days since I could use the extra witches. We'll see how that will end.

[lolix]

odette has been my main mage for over a year now , and she wasnt even min costed (crappy rng).


She has very high raw stats for 1 , and her skill can be somewhat usefull vs lich like bosses.

In terms of pure damage , she is the 3rd after sasha (771 damage) and estelle (770) at 737 damage. Ofc sasha has another defensive skill (so no extra dps) , but estelle is a black with an insane skill (2x damage , reduces magic resistance by 70% , and after awakening she buffs mages damage by 5% as well) , so its not fair to compare to her.


Garania also outdps odette especially vs a large number of units. Assuming a lower number (therefore having better AOE is not relevant) , she hits 696 + 7% (which is roughly 49 damage). She outdamages odette by less then 10 damage post awakening , with her aw passive in use.




The point i am making is that odette is really comparable with the premium platinum mages in terms of power. She is really strong if you manage to mincost it (and you kinda have to because she starts more expensive then any plat mage +2 on top of the +2 from being an event unit)

[IvanLedah21]

I feel that all the platinum mages have their own niche.

Sasha can protect close allies from some physical attacks on top of have high output (with a AW buff that speeds up her attacking)

Garania is the clear-cut mass-mob-clearer with her ridiculously huge AOE during skill, plus she buffs Mages.

Odette is able to protect EVERYONE from magic attacks and has respectable output herself

Estelle is a black, comparison is automatically unfair :p

I'd compare Odette to Sasha since they both have skills of a defensive nature. Sasha is anti-physical (but has limited range of protection) while Odette is anti-magical (with unlimited range if I understand correctly). Sasha has better damage to compensate for her defensive skill's limited range. Odette is likely to have comparable cost simply due to the premiums getting CR'd only on rare occasion (expecting people to have min-cost Sasha/Garania is silly; even spending $200 per month on MWA I don't have that)

TLDR: If you have the premium plat mages, Odette still has her niche. If you don't, she fills in nicely.

[JSmith12]

>_> ... <_<
Read the first post, really.
:mad:


Oops, sorry about that. For the record I did know the actual length but being that there is always at least one person asking it I thought it appropriate to go into the "typical event questions" list. Though, you are right and I should have made it clearer.


It's Nutaigis, so who knows. But if JPDev Tea continues with their good behavior, then next week we can expect either a new event (with a good chance of it being Nagi's Item Collection) or one of skipped ones. And revivals are new breaks

Well at least we are moving at a proper-ish pace.


NEVER

Besides, catching up is a stupid idea to begin with, as it would require skipping of inordinate amount of events, and for naught but getting same event as japanese players, event that we would get anyway if we just followed the schedule?
Following the similar format, with revivals being run alongside the new events, now that's better idea, but considering how just a couple of months ago norm was "new event - break - revival - break" our current pace is already a huge improvement. Let's see how long Dev Tea would be able to keep it up first.

Hmm, I can your point and yes skipping events is not the answer (still wondering when we'll get Chloe). Hopefully the Dev Team continues improving.

[AgentFakku]

first time in 3 starring all maps in the 1st day of event

though, it was 5 maps and it was easy

Not complaining good to have easy events sometimes

[RRYGO]

Is there a cicle for these revival quest? if correct, who goes first and how many times the cicle has stared?
Iv been playin since the DK girl (Elva) event was on, barely got her...i want to know when i can get a rematch (or if i have enough time to prepare my units..)

[Blaxer]

Progress so far:
Am i doing it right bois? :^) http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2017/01/25/YBJITA.png

[AgentFakku]

Mel reminds me of Strike Witches

LOL, poor Odette

[wyldstrykr]

question: does the event stages reduces only magic damage, not healing magic?

if so: does that mean a magic damage with heal as a skill, is only useful when that skill is activated?
and a healer with magic damage as a skill is only useful as long as that healer dont use any skills?

maybe its been asked before but im lazy so look so thanks and sorry

[AgentFakku]

think it only affects witches and mages only

Healers don't use magic to heal (I learned dat the hard way) It's different from other games in Aigis

[wyldstrykr]

so bringing echina and some shrine maidens.. wont affect their performance... sweet

[JMich]

question: does the event stages reduces only magic damage, not healing magic?
The enemies gain MR, thus the magic damage they take is reduced. It doesn't affect a unit's attack.

[lolix]

so...finally max cr-ed odette. After more then a year...

[slyyr]

RNG hates me this week. 12 runs so far on the last map and only 2 Odettes have dropped. Got a Witch too but you'd expect that after 10-ish runs.

[Blaxer]

Progress update #2
The "Exp for Mel" event is going great :^)
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2017/01/28/zBoFA.png

[soranokira]

Progress so far:
Am i doing it right bois? :^) http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2017/01/25/YBJITA.png

you're doing it wrong. level odette copies to lv10 before feeding them if you're x8-ing her exp; the additional exp she gives (under x8) is going to outweigh the exp you put into the mini tincans.

[AgentFakku]

never thought about lvl fodder to lv 10 b4 feeding them to your unit

[Blaxer]

you're doing it wrong. level odette copies to lv10 before feeding them if you're x8-ing her exp; the additional exp she gives (under x8) is going to outweigh the exp you put into the mini tincans.

Lv 13 oddette Not worth actually .-.
i put 800+ exp on her, got 600~ back when x8-ing (so 150~ base)http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2017/01/28/gsqc.png

[soranokira]

Lv 13 oddette Not worth actually .-.
i put 800+ exp on her, got 600~ back when x8-ing (so 150~ base)http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2017/01/28/gsqc.png

it takes 466 exp to level odette from lv1 to lv10. notice I said lv10 and not lv13.

quoted from wiki:

Male units give more experience than female units and the experience value rises by 5 per unit level for Iron and Bronze Rarity and 7 per unit level starting from Silver Rarity.For CC'd/CE'd units it is even +20 exp per level.

7*(10-1)*8 = 504

funny how a rank 206 player doesnt know that and even compares a lv13 instead of a lv10 like I said.
for future reference, it's lv20 for CC'd fodder.

edit: after a little calculation, it's probably better to get plats only to lv8 which would cost 350 exp, but give 7*7*8 = 392 exp. still, level 10 is easier to remember (because it IS level 10 for silvers) for pre-CC and level 20 for CC'd fodder. (for blacks, it is only up to level 6 if not CC'd and 17 after CC)

[Unregistered]

Even if it wasn't worth it XP-wise, it's always worth it gold-wise if you're only leveling high level units with the tin cans (like you should be.)

[Blaxer]

.-. But... i mean... less than 50 exp per mini-tincan... that's negligible for veteran players like myself (as you said rank 206)

I see how it could be useful if i was new to the game, close to no gold, in the middle of an event i really want to do, a lot of units and little fooder (so i could squeeze the most exp possble) but right now i don't even care losing 500~ exp (1k at most sometimes) when combining for 8k since i don't have THAT many units to level up, and my gold never goes under 2M (excep when awakening was first introduced, silver leveling meant fooder and gold, and the awakening process itself consumes a lot of gold for each one), but now i wake(? 1 or 2 units per month if even, and whenever ravivals come i can skip them (or when i completed a star-rush) and go to farm fooder/fairies/dailies for more leveling

All and all i don't think i will be leveling my fooder unless they boost the exp given per level, and, in doing so, making it more noticeable

[lolix]

arguing with sora is like arguing with a woman. You will never win.


It's pretty much the same experience invested (50 more or less exp is insignifiant ) with the only advantage being that you make 1 less combination into the main unit (so you DO save some gold). But experience wise , it's pretty much the same deal

[Unregistered]

There is no argument here. Sora is right. If you don't care to be as efficient as possible then fine, it isn't for everybody to min-max, but pointing out the best way of doing things should not be put down and most uninformed players will appreciate it.

I personally have been using 4 iron mages from Return the Field! per Odette which results in lvl 11. It's not perfect but its close enough. I get bonus same class xp, only 1 combine, and have the fodder handy from farming RtF anyway.

[lolix]

its 50 xp. 50xp is meaningless. How many mini tin cans do you need to use to make a difference ? 10 ? 20 ? how much extra xp is that ? 500 -1000 for 20 mini tin cans ?


The only thing that you save doing that is a couple Ks of gold because you're doing only one combination , which is not the point sora was making anyway , since he was talking about xp alone.

[JMich]

its 50 xp. 50xp is meaningless. The only thing that you save doing that is a couple Ks of gold because you're doing only one combination , which is not the point sora was making anyway , since he was talking about xp alone.

Assuming you are using 3 spirits of the same rarity, a lvl 1 platinum female unit of the same class will give 504 xp less than a lvl 10 platinum female unit of the same class. A lvl 11 will give 56 more xp than the lvl 10, but that you can probably ignore.
You can safely ignore leveling them if you are not using spirits.

[lolix]

you're missing hte point. We were talking about 3x spirits + level 10 odette as oposed to 3x spirits + level 1 odette + 4 (iron/bronze units).

The experience difference between the 2 is minimal as i was pointing out. The only thing you're saving is gold at the very best. But then again , how many mini tin cans are you going to use in the first place ?

[JMich]

The experience difference between the 2 is minimal as i was pointing out. The only thing you're saving is gold at the very best. But then again , how many mini tin cans are you going to use in the first place ?

Ah, true, forgot to account for the fodder you feed the mini-tin can. So it's most likely a few thousand gold per combine, so I guess it depends on your gold situation. Worst case scenario, you delay leveling up or awakening the unit a day or two due to lack of gold.

[Unregistered]

You can debate the value of doing so all day if you like, it doesn't really matter. You're spending the exact same amount of real time by leveling the fodder first anyway so why not? Small things add up over time; whether or not you choose to make use of them for zero opportunity cost is your choice.

[lolix]

Because the bonus xp gained by that is so insignifiant that it doesn't matter. The value of it is what is actually important....especially for lower levels , with gold troubles.


Assume gold is not an issue. Do you know how many combos like this you'd have to make just to gain 800 xp ? (the equivalent of 4 level 24 bronze samurais for a single combo)


16. You would need to do 16 combinations to gain the equivalen of 1 comission sortie drop.


Realistically , you won't always do that many combinations , and even if you do , the ammount of xp is not high enough to amount to something.



Which is why the actual gold value is what is important here , because doing it like that you transfer some xp to your main unit while using no extra gold , which depending on the unit level , can be quite high per combination.


Which is why we were talking about thhe gold value of doing this rather then the xp value

[AgentFakku]

3499

Usually I farm the event to very last day, but Im gonna stop and grind for Gold Tin Cans. Need lots of $ since I realize awakening a unit ain't cheap LOL

13 Odettes ain't bad

Will mincost her. For skill reduction, I won't try it

She is my 2nd Plat Mage and my first event mage, I think

3500

Never did take Sasha or Barbastroff for spin

[JSmith12]

3499

Usually I farm the event to very last day, but Im gonna stop and grind for Gold Tin Cans. Need lots of $ since I realize awakening a unit ain't cheap LOL

13 Odettes ain't bad

Will mincost her. For skill reduction, I won't try it

She is my 2nd Plat Mage and my first event mage, I think

3500

Never did take Sasha or Barbastroff for spin

Nice job on the farming, I am still short by three points unfortunately. I highly recommend using Sasha. Barbastroff is good and is basically a stronger Valerie, but Sasha is great especially with her skill being able to negate enemy damage on surrounding allies. Has saved me a fair bit.

[IvanLedah21]

3499

Usually I farm the event to very last day, but Im gonna stop and grind for Gold Tin Cans. Need lots of $ since I realize awakening a unit ain't cheap LOL

13 Odettes ain't bad

Will mincost her. For skill reduction, I won't try it

She is my 2nd Plat Mage and my first event mage, I think

3500

Never did take Sasha or Barbastroff for spin

Think it was discussed either earlier or in another thread but...
Plat mages:
Sasha: Highest damage output, skill allows for dodging of physical attacks for nearby enemies (which considering you're usually having mages support a chokepoint, she's likely covering 1-2 blockers and maybe a healer with this)
Garania: Our signature weapon of MASS destruction, capable of hitting half the map with skill, her damage falls behind a bit but she's a mob-clearer, not a priority-target killer (then, what Plat- mage is?). Also buffs Mage attack and therefore stays competitive to a Sasha or Odette without Garania buff
Odette: Lower damage output than Sasha but her anti-mage protection covers whole team. Does have +2 cost compared to the others.

Thus, each Plat mage has their own niche. Anti-Physical Protection, AOE++ and Anti-Mage Protection

Barbie loses out to Mehlis in damage unless his skill lets him hit more enemies than her skill does (extended range for Mehlis lets her reach more, expanded AOE for Barbie lets him potentially hit more per shot). Assuming equal enemies hit, Mehlis wins and he loses to all the plat mages outside of UP cost.

[slyyr]

After my initial run of awful luck it nearly evened out by the end. 25 runs on the last map for 11 Odettes and 3 Witches.

Got Odette to -2/+5. A far cry from -5/+16 but +16 is nigh unattainable anyway.

Bring on the next event!

[AgentFakku]

Seems like no one mention Cyrus, so Im guessing he ain't special then

I lvl and Cc Cyrus for male units only maps + I could CR him if I had leftover DC (dat was before I thought of buying Spica LOL)

I'll invest in Sasha. Thanks 4 da advice

[JSmith12]

Seems like no one mention Cyrus, so Im guessing he ain't special then

I lvl and Cc Cyrus for male units only maps + I could CR him if I had leftover DC (dat was before I thought of buying Spica LOL)

I'll invest in Sasha. Thanks 4 da advice

I never got Cyrus so I can't speak for him but like IvanLedah21 said for the platinums, every unit has their niche. In pure stats Cyrus is a little weaker but with awakening he basically gains rapid fire at the expense of range where as Barbastroff is the exact opposite. In the end it's a matter of preference and practicality.

And invest in Sasha as much as you can. I may be biased, but she is very good.

[Arkinum]

I was off to the good start with this event, but then RNJesus decided I needed humbling for some unknown reason. Suffice to say, I'm nowhere near getting even a half perfect Odette.

I still managed to get a few witches that I'll defiantly need later.

[Jay Rich]

I was off to the good start with this event, but then RNJesus decided I needed humbling for some unknown reason. Suffice to say, I'm nowhere near getting even a half perfect Odette.

I still managed to get a few witches that I'll defiantly need later.

I know the feeling, at the start was getting good CR and Skill Up, I saved up 10 Odettes over a few days and didn't get one CR from them at Cost 33 which still have 3 more before full CR.

Currently sitting at Cost 31, with 2 more put into my main, I don't believe they will min cost her. As for Skill I got to 8/16.

[Nero010]

my skill is only 7/16 but i got her mincosted nearly right away

[IvanLedah21]

Min-cost, 11/16 skill. Seeing as Rainbows aren't too much of an issue for me when I farm Spirit Rescue G, that's pretty good result.

[Buster Wolf]

Was able to get her to -3, 6/16

[Anonymous]

Mincost on 3 accounts, -4 on the fourth. didn't bother spending any SC

[MalusCorvus]

As usual, I ran afoul of Aigis' maintenance schedule, although I didn't mind as much this time since I wasn't particularly enthused about this event...

[IvanLedah21]

As JSmith said, Barbie and Cyrus are more or less the same, but with different AW buffs. Mehlis still beats them both, and all of them lose to the plats (other than UP cost and odds of drawing, obviously).

Sasha is very good for murdering chokepoints. Extra AS on AW + highest raw damage, with a dodge skill for insurance is good stuff for keeping your heavy from being overrun ;)

Edit: Wow, how'd I end up looking at (and thus responding to) page 5 from 2 days ago lol?