Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

[Unregistered]

Hey guys beginner here, where to see the buff/debuff stacking mechanic?, i realize some buff/debuff just keep missing

[bigblackcock]

Hey guys beginner here, where to see the buff/debuff stacking mechanic?, i realize some buff/debuff just keep missing

you probably talking about frames.
there some different frames for either buff and debuff, if you use debuff from the same frame only the stronger 1 will remain and the weker miss.
and you you use 2 or more debuffs from different frames they'll "stack".
the most common frames are either A and B, while there are more rare frames like C and D.
also, weapon and eidolon have a different frame than kamihime so it'll "stack" as well.

on another note,they are also debuff and buffs that actually does stack for a some turns like svarog, susanoo, caspiel etc, you won't see additional mark of debuff/buff from it as it's same frame, but they will either buff/ debuff more if you keep using them till the effect is wearing off.

[sanahtlig]

Hey guys beginner here, where to see the buff/debuff stacking mechanic?, i realize some buff/debuff just keep missing
It's all explained in my guide (https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.n2rg7l6aazt6).

[bigblackcock]

bastet's encounter episode-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q_9PME7DfI

[Maria]

The truth hurts too much on rerolling a SSR Kamihime.
Let's just forget this thing and pray to RNGesus.
No need for z-test?
7503

[Chains]

Hey Fellows
Are "Lilim" eidolon useful ?
Knowing that I don't have no one to replace Lilim Luxuria (wind) on my wind profile;
but I have Yatagarasu to replace Lilim Ira (Fire) on my fire profile...
Thanks :P

[Eunicorn]

Hey Fellows
Are "Lilim" eidolon useful ?
Knowing that I don't have no one to replace Lilim Luxuria (wind) on my wind profile;
but I have Yatagarasu to replace Lilim Ira (Fire) on my fire profile...
Thanks :P

they're as good as sub-eidos with their active effect. however the phantom lilim is quite considerable as main eido, if you'll want a fun team or dream team

[Unregistered]

Hey Fellows
Are "Lilim" eidolon useful ?
Knowing that I don't have no one to replace Lilim Luxuria (wind) on my wind profile;
but I have Yatagarasu to replace Lilim Ira (Fire) on my fire profile...
Thanks :P

They're a great risk to use as a main as a loss of a single unit can completely screw you over and lose its passive effect. Their stats are very low as well. Unless you have no other eidolons then go right ahead but otherwise, they're terrible.

[J4fusion]

You need 3 draconic eyes to awaken a SSR hime, then you will need the following to MLB her:
18 holy crystals of light, 15 holy stars, 5 litograps, 20 runes, 8 dragon bones, 14 fangs, 10 idea cores, 10 prison of XX idea cores, 10 SR grimoirs and 10 SSR grimoirs and 270.000 gems.

The reduced price which they will change betweenn Susanoo and Svarog's awakenings:
7 holy crystals of light, 5 holy stars, 3 litographs, 8 runes, 7 dragon bones, 7 fangs, 5 idea cores, 10 prison of XX idea cores, 3 SR grimoirs, and 6 SSR grimoirs and 270.000 gems

it will come at Svarog awakening

[VeryVoodoo]

it will come at Svarog awakening

The reduced costs for awakenings, does it apply to the prior hime awakenings as well then? They'll retroactively fix the costs?

[Marigold]

The reduced costs for awakenings, does it apply to the prior hime awakenings as well then? They'll retroactively fix the costs?


yes
everyone will get the cost reduction don't worry about it

[Unregistered]

What is the element on this one? Anyone know?

[Gelatinous Ooze]

What is the element on this one?

Yeah. Meng Huo. What is the element on this one? Anyone know? :cool:

[Unregistered]

Noob here, and I have a question. When it comes to equipping weapons, is it better to use weapons with higher raw stats, or should I use weapons that might have lower stats but match up the element of whatever team I'm using?

[Slashley]

Yeah. Meng Huo. What is the element on this one? Anyone know? :cool:
What is the element on this one? Anyone know?The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming events.
Noob here, and I have a question. When it comes to equipping weapons, is it better to use weapons with higher raw stats, or should I use weapons that might have lower stats but match up the element of whatever team I'm using?Early on, just get what you can. Later, once you have... maybe 5 LMB SR/SSR weapons of the same element, start upgrading the Assault skill levels.

Check out Sanahtlig's toolbox for a damage calc (link above, though to the wrong sheet, you want the second sheet all the way to the left), it'll show you when an on-element weapon is better than a high base damage off-element. For me, at late game, it's like... 400 base attack is 3%ish (the base of SR Assault at skill level 1). And since it's very easy to get 9% (SR Assault skill level 12), it's almost impossible for an off-element to be better than an on-element weapon. However, that number will be much bigger for you early game.

[Unregistered]

Yeah. Meng Huo. What is the element on this one? Anyone know? :cool:

Meng Huo is Thunder.

[bigblackcock]

Awakened Tyr's encounter episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ-Il28lXvk
i'll record the eidolon, SR kamis and SSR one later on.
thanks to kitty for letting me to record her :D

[ohjel]

yes
everyone will get the cost reduction don't worry about it

Yes, just like they retroactively raised wind lilim damage to 70-90% like they were supposed to when fire lilim came out.

I would not count on her getting cheaper, at least not anytime soon after they do the change.

[Aidoru]

Just noticed the SSR break items are 20 draconic eyes. Holy hell jeez. Definitely no free players ever getting those.

[sanahtlig]

Just noticed the SSR break items are 20 draconic eyes. Holy hell jeez. Definitely no free players ever getting those.
I can't imagine a good use for them other than LB'ing a +100% eidolon. Players who land one without rerolling will likely have some spare Draconic Eyes lying around.

[VeryVoodoo]

Just noticed the SSR break items are 20 draconic eyes. Holy hell jeez. Definitely no free players ever getting those.
Exactly... only whales will ever get to access them.
Players that are f2p will certainly never have 20 spare draconic eyes just laying around. Such is the nature of these P2W gacha games unfortunately.

[Slashley]

Originally, Kamihime was very whale unfriendly. There's expensive stuff like SSR Books that you just don't have enough of if you start the game with all the SSR Kamihimes, even if you buy all the store offers for them. The Gacha Eidolons were (and for us still are) fairly crappy. And for a whale, there was like... nothing to do with the extra Dragon Eyes.

So slowly but surely, the game has been made more and more and more whale friendly. Like 100% Eidolons, or extremely expensive ways to spend Dragon Eyes (20 for these limit break things, or 15 for the non-KH weapons).

[Blueguy]

According to twitter, they were going to give us 300 magic jewels, but I didn't get them. Did anyone get these?

[AznSamsung]

nope ... didnt get anything

[Aidoru]

According to twitter, they were going to give us 300 magic jewels, but I didn't get them. Did anyone get these?

※Please be aware that it may take some time before the compensation Jewels appear in your Gift box.

Anyways, more interested in this.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPOo7YdUIAA9WrJ.jpg

【Contents】
Special items are available at each time slot. Don't let this chance pass you by!

I'm rather worried about the chart, seems as if we'll be getting 4 different sales based on time, which is a terrible idea for those who work. I really don't want to miss the better one if it has something I want.

[Slashley]

Guaranteed Karin ticket for 50 bucks, please.


... no?

[sanahtlig]

※Please be aware that it may take some time before the compensation Jewels appear in your Gift box.

Anyways, more interested in this.

【Contents】
Special items are available at each time slot. Don't let this chance pass you by!

I'm rather worried about the chart, seems as if we'll be getting 4 different sales based on time, which is a terrible idea for those who work. I really don't want to miss the better one if it has something I want.
What about people who sleep? Are they seriously not even going to announce what's on sale beforehand? Promotions like this seem purposely designed to be aggravating.

[Unregistered]

I've noticed they fucked up some buttons, a few are in Japanese lol.

[Blueguy]

Yeah, but finishing an SP quest actually takes you back to the SP quest page instead of the quest page now.

[Blueguy]

※Please be aware that it may take some time before the compensation Jewels appear in your Gift box.


Yeah, they left that part out of the tweet. Got it now.

[bigblackcock]

so first offer for kamihime is 10 chain SR or above guaranteed, 1 draw for 1K gold instead of 3K (can be bought up to 5 times)
i'll pass that for sure as it can be either eidolon or kamihime...
but who knows? maybe next offer will be SR or above kami, then SSR guaranteed eidolon and last SSR guaranteed kami?
maybe it is, maybe not, only time will tell

[i have to pee]

me have no moneys

[Slashley]

so first offer for kamihime is 10 chain SR or above guaranteed, 1 draw for 1K gold instead of 3K (can be bought up to 5 times)3 pulls without bonus is 0.01 Karins, and 1 pull with bonus is 0.02 Karins. So fuck this offer, thank you very much.

And yes, everything is measured in Karins now.

[i have to pee]

3 pulls without bonus is 0.01 Karins, and 1 pull with bonus is 0.02 Karins. So fuck this offer, thank you very much.

And yes, everything is measured in Karins now.


everything is measured in karins? even her bust size? that'd be..... oh, 0 karins!

[AznSamsung]

Next 6 hours for black friday sale: Luxury Item Pack ... 2k gold .. 3 per account

Contains: 20 Elixirs 20 Energy leaves 10k gems


Worth it or Not: NOPE

[Unregistered]

Lol at the additional gems. As if 10k gems adds any value to the deal.

[Slashley]

Well, with the obligatory "consumables" sale out of the way, let's hope for something better.

Although one of the remaining two is probably SR&SSR Books sale, and/or a Fang sale...
everything is measured in karins? even her bust size? that'd be..... oh, 0 karins!Ha ha, you're a funny guy, Sal. I'll kill you last.

[Unregistered]

Does anyone happen to have the link to the previous banner of this?

cf.static.r.kamihimeproject.dmmgames.com/resources/pc/normal/ee/93/a7b54d0ae223c0d3f320e7b23a2a72b36d512fdda9496ac3e2 52ca1d7d79ee93.jpg

Or has someone else already tried seeing if they could look up the next two deals already?

[Stway]

Oh man.. 10k gems? WHAT A DEAL.

[Unregistered]

Originally, Kamihime was very whale unfriendly. There's expensive stuff like SSR Books that you just don't have enough of if you start the game with all the SSR Kamihimes, even if you buy all the store offers for them. The Gacha Eidolons were (and for us still are) fairly crappy. And for a whale, there was like... nothing to do with the extra Dragon Eyes.

So slowly but surely, the game has been made more and more and more whale friendly. Like 100% Eidolons, or extremely expensive ways to spend Dragon Eyes (20 for these limit break things, or 15 for the non-KH weapons).

The upshot to this evolving game design approach is that the events become more generous with magic jewels for free players (happens at the same time with reducing requirements to max the event SSR stuff). It's basically a more stuff for everybody type thinking.

[Slashley]

Do the events get more Magic Jewels...?
There will be lots more Dragon Eye Shards soon (Event Quests for Advents, Union rewards from Ultimates, Raids... probably didn't get any?) but aside from that, I don't think they're increasing Jewel count?

Koihime awards you with a ton, but Koihime is a bit special.

[idunno]

Do the events get more Magic Jewels...?
There will be lots more Dragon Eye Shards soon (Event Quests for Advents, Union rewards from Ultimates, Raids... probably didn't get any?) but aside from that, I don't think they're increasing Jewel count?

Koihime awards you with a ton, but Koihime is a bit special.

I don't know when in yhe future, but at some point they have added to possibilty to buy (Max 3k) jewels from advents. I'm 100% sure of the Koihime rerun, and I believe all advents gets this new trade sometime in the future

[Unregistered]

For advents, it's the Illuyanka event that changes the exchange shop up a lot.
For raids, look at Barong.
For union event reprints, it's a bit different. They added prizes for your union's rank in expert kills and ultimate kills, as well as your individual rank in PP. If you're in a high powered and active union, great! You'd be gunning for jewels & grails (expert kills), draconic eye shards (ult kills), and jewels again (individual PP). If you're in a not-so-impressive union, then uh, not so great.

[Unregistered]

*union event reprints starting with Lust. Gluttony and Pride's 1st reprints didn't have ranking prizes added.

[AznSamsung]

2k gold for sr hime weapon 10 gacha for the next 6 hrs

[Aidoru]

Meh, just deduct 1k off of the SR hime draw, if they do the same with SSR hime, its going to be 4k, or just 3k like we've had a few times, which isn't much of a Black Friday sale when it's stuff we've had before espcially not when compared to other games, like FKG got a pick any highest rarity girl for only 500ng. Hope I'm wrong and they give us Miracle Tickets, which seems unlikely or 50% off the SSR at the very least.

[VeryVoodoo]

For advents, it's the Illuyanka event that changes the exchange shop up a lot.
For raids, look at Barong.
For union event reprints, it's a bit different. They added prizes for your union's rank in expert kills and ultimate kills, as well as your individual rank in PP. If you're in a high powered and active union, great! You'd be gunning for jewels & grails (expert kills), draconic eye shards (ult kills), and jewels again (individual PP). If you're in a not-so-impressive union, then uh, not so great.
How do the reward tiers go for rankings in Union Events? The top 5 all get the same/best rewards? After that, how do the remainder rankings fall in? Is there a big drop-off?

[Slashley]

2k gold for sr hime weapon 10 gacha for the next 6 hrsWhich is sad, since they've done 2 SR Hime weapon for 3k before. 1500 per SR Hime.

Well, I guess it's slightly different since it's "not 3k!" but...

[Slashley]

How do the reward tiers go for rankings in Union Events? The top 5 all get the same/best rewards? After that, how do the remainder rankings fall in? Is there a big drop-off?http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E7%85%89%E7%8D%84%E6%88%A6%20%E3%83%87% E3%83%BC%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%83%97%E3%83 %A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89

Look near the bottom. Ranks 1-5 get 15 Shards, top 50 gets 8, only past top 500 gets none.

[AznSamsung]

3 soul left to unlock ... have 500pt ... d'art, joan and solemon .. who to unlock between joan and d'art

[Unregistered]

A union member mentioned that they might remove hime-less SSR weapons from the gacha. Is that true? If so, any compensation for those who do have non-hime SSRs?

[VeryVoodoo]

A union member mentioned that they might remove hime-less SSR weapons from the gacha. Is that true? If so, any compensation for those who do have non-hime SSRs?

Yes, it's true. And no to any compensation.

[Slashley]

Why would you get compensation? Those things will then cost FIFTEEN FULL DRAGON EYES boy, you sure got lucked out by finding those!!!1

... said by a person who has found 0 SSR Eidolons, 2 SSR KH weapons and 5 SSR non-KH weapons from gacha.

Anyway. The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming patch notes. Gacha change will happen about halfway through January, assuming Nutaku follows after DMM.

[AznSamsung]

Last deal of the day .. 3k gold ... ssr ticket (hime weapon or eldo) ... ur call

[Slashley]

Well, out of all the offers, it at least is best value. Not very impressive, but still. I assume it has the same ~42% Hime ~42% Eidolon ~16% non-KH weapon ratio. Sanahtlig's toolbox had the proper numbers.

[katsalia]

Honestly not worth since it's not guaranteed Hime, 3k gold to potentially get an Eidolon or a regular SSR weapon is just burning money.

[Aidoru]

Awful, just awful. Not even a SSR hime weapon guaranteed but a SSR random. Well I guess that's less money used today.

[Saberborn]

I did the SSR Black Friday deal. I got SSR hime weapon, Titania and also one non hime SSR weapon. Was hoping it was a miracle ticket instead, but I didn't luck out, 3rd wind SSR Hime. I've bought 2 SSR tickets in the past.

[bigblackcock]

koihime's encounter episodes:
Karin-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3glCWd-Hj2M
Meng huo mii-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtFHYph73U0&t
Aisa-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UccmYZ70qbE&
Koi-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsWpxyxkXXc
Renge-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C82NU7bQ-4c&

[Slashley]

Yet another SSR restock coming up. They sure have been restocking those a lot lately, last one was less than one month ago (by a few days).

Well, I guess there will be a another video where I'll get nothing then.

[Unregistered]

Can anyone tell me if SR weapons have any other uses in the future? I've been holding onto several SR weapons I have fully leveled that have been replaced with SSR weapons and it feels like a waste to just feed it to new SSR weapons but I just want to make sure before I do that they don't have any different uses in the future.

[Slashley]

Nobody can tell much about the future, but I suppose eventually SR weapons have no place in your weapon grids. Just make sure to have 10 weapons of each element, and that your per-element weapons cover all heroes who might be useful (Joan, Andromeda, Mordred usually).

[Unregistered]

The first Tower Quest type event seems to have started on DMM yesterday. It seems to be one of those limited attempt type events (like Guild Order), and it's currently running alongside a guild order and a raid.

The basic idea seems to be you're trying to clear floors of a tower with specific restrictions. Clear the quest once, clear the quest with so and so number of kamihime alive, clear the quest with so and so element kamihime, clear the quest with so and so type of kamihime, etc etc.
All quests also have an additional condition: kamihime used in the event can't be used again in this event until 3 daily maintenances have passed. (and this one is running for ~8 days)

What's the point of this? You're getting tower medals from these. Tower medals can be exchanged for stuff (new exchange in the shop). You will also be ranked based on how many medals you gained. Yes, it's another competition against fellow players. The ranking prizes for this is tower medals (yep, even more) and jewels.

What kind of stuff can tower medals be exchanged for? They're mostly sets of stuff. For example, the most expensive set by far would be a pack of 1 SSR weapon limit break item, plus 2 of both types of grimoires. Then there's a bunch of packs which include 1 SSR accessory each and... rosaries? I'm not sure what the rosaries are for. A cheaper pack of just grimoires (5 of both types). A gacha ticket set (1 SR, 2 kamihime weapon, 5 plain). Skill enhancement grail set. 300 jewel pack. Different elemental fang/rune/bone/star packs. 1 SR weapon + 1 SR eidolon enhancement pack. 10k gems. 2 half-elixirs + 5 seeds. 30 soul points + 10 holy soul points.

Speaking of new exchanges in the shop, it seems that on November 29, another one was added. The Orichalcum exchange! Because apparently people have spare orichalcum by now. The only item I see listed in that exchange is... the SSR hammer from Jormungandr's event for 2 ori each!

[bigblackcock]

and here are more encounter episodes:
Lilim invidia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Co4N_t5xIk
Guardian of light perun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lV40wpyf5E
Lightspeed hermod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdytmVnYzDQ
Apostle of light satan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhoGQxTHb1c

[Aidoru]

A little discussion came up in union. Could someone clarify what the "Once" in "(Stackable / Once)" skills mean?

Looking specifically at Metatron who has the (Stackable / Once) for her burst damage buff. A union member originally thought it meant it only takes effect with single stack but you can see during battle it definitely stacks more than once. It'd be weird if it didn't too considering how short the CD is on the skill. I've personally gotten it to 5 before.

And if it matters, did some tests runs (ran several Thunder Expert with only her and Arthur). Tried 0, 1, 2 and 3 stacks. Her burst damage went up with each stack, so multiple stacks do take effect. JP wiki says there's a cap like anything else but regardless, still wondering what the "Once" means.

[sanahtlig]

A little discussion came up in union. Could someone clarify what the "Once" in "(Stackable / Once)" skills mean?
It means the effect is consumed upon use. That is, all stacks of Burst buff are consumed once you Burst. The original JP is ambiguous, but Nutaku's translation is outright misleading.

[Aidoru]

Ah that makes complete sense, thanks.

[idunno]

It means the effect is consumed upon use.

Additionally, many block one affliction abilities have this "once" tag. And they lasts until used, and doesn't have a expiration like 3 turns etc. So in theory you can have the buff for 10 turns without using it.

[Slashley]

Additionally, many block one affliction abilities have this "once" tag. And they lasts until used, and doesn't have a expiration like 3 turns etc. So in theory you can have the buff for 10 turns without using it.Yeah, there's also "invulnerable (once)" which means that the effect lasts until next damage. If you're lucky, you can have it last until the CD comes available again. Or longer, obviously.

[Unregistered]

Is there a consensus to what a good trade off for hp and atk are? As in deciding between two eidolons with the same skill, like Typhon and Mii, one with more hp but less atk or the one with more atk but less hp. I'm aware Typhon's CD is 1 turn less but lets ignore that.

This might not matter for just a single eidolon or two but if you focus one stat over the other for all your eidolons and your weapons, would that would make some significant difference?

Or should we just prioritize attack for everything?

[Slashley]

When it comes to Eidolon stats, the only thing I care about is Atk. If you want HP, use one or two Defender weapons.

[sanahtlig]

Or should we just prioritize attack for everything?
Most people prioritize ATK because while damage checks are common (e.g., empty the Rage Bar before an Overdrive occurs), HP checks are not. Some eidolons have above-average stats overall (e.g., Yggdrasil vs. Sandalphon). I tend to prioritize eidolons with useful active skills or same-element.

[Unregistered]

This is more me just thinking out loud.. but why does Thunder not got any love. Are they colorist against yellow? I checked the future Hime and there's few additions of Thunder. In fact.. Thunder has the least amount of Hime. As a "youshouldn'tchoosethiselement" main, this saddens me greatly.

[Slashley]

Thunder has some love, such as getting their P2W Eidolon early.

As for Hime, Thunder is very much a "pre-Mammon era" and "after Mammon era" element. Mammon is such a hard carry it is unreal, and would pretty much break any other element (except maybe Light). This also does mean that you pretty much cannot build a good Thunder team without Mammon, and that's not exactly a strength at all.

[Unregistered]

Thunder has some love, such as getting their P2W Eidolon early.

As for Hime, Thunder is very much a "pre-Mammon era" and "after Mammon era" element. Mammon is such a hard carry it is unreal, and would pretty much break any other element (except maybe Light). This also does mean that you pretty much cannot build a good Thunder team without Mammon, and that's not exactly a strength at all.

I like how Mammon coincidentally loves money and is staple for Thunder.

[sanahtlig]

A Thunder team with Tyr and Sol will be viable with D'art's Discipline Relic weapon. But that's like 6 months out, almost as long as the wait for Mammon with the 3rd Miracle ticket (~8 months). Until then you need Raiko also, and are still lacking -DEF. Thunder's priorities shift over time as debuffs no longer become the main constraint. A final team with only Mammon and Sol should do just fine.

[Unregistered]

Can someone explain weapon grids to me?

For example, is a 1600 max ATK SR assault weapon from disasters with 20 skill better than a 2100 max ATK SSR off-element weapon? Off-element as in the SR fits the event's weakness, but the SSR does not.. so the SSR's skill doesn't get used. I'm not sure which outweighs the other.

[neko neko nya nya]

the disaster weapon would be better, but it's not worth to get them to lvl 20 skill anyway as they'll be replaced for better SR or SSR of the same element.
having other element weapon in your team will do nothing but benefit the overall atk, but no real help in a battle as you need the elemental bonus from the weapons...

that SR disaster weapon will give you an extra 13% assault to your grid (at lvl 20 skill), whereas the SSR will give nothing if it's the wrong element.

[Slashley]

Can someone explain weapon grids to me?

For example, is a 1600 max ATK SR assault weapon from disasters with 20 skill better than a 2100 max ATK SSR off-element weapon? Off-element as in the SR fits the event's weakness, but the SSR does not.. so the SSR's skill doesn't get used. I'm not sure which outweighs the other.Uh, pretty sure a skill level 20 weapon will easily be an upgrade. This depends on many things, such as your overall atk, and how much weapon skills you already have though.

Sanahtlig has made a toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=848984711), one of which can calculate when on-element weapons with lower base attack are better.

For the record, for me, a skill level 1 weapon with 1600 Atk on-element weapon is already better than a 2100 Atk off-element. But this may not be true for you.
the disaster weapon would be better, but it's not worth to get them to lvl 20 skill anyway as they'll be replaced for better SR or SSR of the same element.While true, I disagree. Especially if you've found the element you want to main, leaving weapons un-upgraded because "I'll change them in the far future" is not a great plan. You'll get ahead with them now.

[WhatIconceal]

So i just found out that allies' buffs don't work on me, thanks to my union-mate who was using Andromeda. When he use def buff i see the animation and the icon appears too, but after i use any skill or just attack, the icon disappears. Best part is that heal also doesn't work: i can see skill animation, hp increases but after 1 turn all himes hp just goes down.

I wonder if anyone has or had this issue.

[Unregistered]

Yea, you're not alone with that issue.

[VeryVoodoo]

So i just found out that allies' buffs don't work on me, thanks to my union-mate who was using Andromeda. When he use def buff i see the animation and the icon appears too, but after i use any skill or just attack, the icon disappears. Best part is that heal also doesn't work: i can see skill animation, hp increases but after 1 turn all himes hp just goes down.

I wonder if anyone has or had this issue.

I was wondering about that. I thought maybe it was just a visual glitch or lag. But yea, allied skills seem to disappear after a single turn for me too.
New bug? Good ole' nutaku. xD

[Unregistered]

Sounds more like a visual bug too me, like when a debuff timer runs out but the icon stays until you finish the turn or refresh. But I don't pay attention to other player buffs and heals since these days, any kind of battle that involves others I just end up auto battling.

[VeryVoodoo]

Sounds more like a visual bug too me, like when a debuff timer runs out but the icon stays until you finish the turn or refresh. But I don't pay attention to other player buffs and heals since these days, any kind of battle that involves others I just end up auto battling.

It disappears even after a single skill used too. Which makes me not as sure if it's just a visual bug. Also others are reporting that sometimes it happens with ally-wide heals too? (like andro's) Though I just tested healing with another union member right now, and heals seem to stick. So unless the heal thing is a random bug, I'm not sure.

[WhatIconceal]

sent a ticket;
good thing it doesn't affect me as much as it could before, i remember sitting in raid event battles and waiting for someone to use heal so my units won't die from overdrive next turn.

[Unregistered]

Auto Ability doesn't work how it should? Anyone else has the same problem? Only some skills activate.

[Aidoru]

Auto Ability doesn't work how it should? Anyone else has the same problem? Only some skills activate.

Are you using Yukimura (one of the new souls)? Her ability causes an auto attack bug where auto battling skills won't activate unless her burst transfer skill is used.

Unless they already patched that.

[Blueguy]

I don't have either new soul and I kept noticing one of the skills on my soul would get missed until the next turn.

[Slashley]

I don't have either new soul and I kept noticing one of the skills on my soul would get missed until the next turn.That's a common bug. No idea why that happens, but basically every time there is one skill that comes off CD in slot 1 (usually occupied by your Soul, but if Soul is dead this can happen to Hime in that slot as well) it won't be used until next turn.

[LeCrestfallen]

Can confirm, happens quite often with mordred in my case, either the debuff res down skill, or black propaganda gets delayed by a turn.

[Frelas]

''Non-Kamihime release SSR weapons are removed from Gacha''
Finally they removed them. this will make the gacha a little better.

[Aidoru]

''Non-Kamihime release SSR weapons are removed from Gacha''
Finally they removed them. this will make the gacha a little better.

Yea, you can find them in the shop for 15 full eyes. Might try the 3k ng pull in that case but rather confused about it since the description of the gacha says "will not grant kamihime weapon". So I'm guessing the ticket itself will only give one of the himeless weapons but the gacha will still give a regular SR or higher. Any confirmations?

[Saberborn]

Correct. It's normal 10 pull with guaranteed SR. Then you get a ticket and roll again for the weapon.

[bigblackcock]

just uploaded the encounter episode of the new characters :D
Cherubim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4FGtiPe-o
Astraea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2en0FXha6fQ
Jupiter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSiC0FpK3zY
Jack frost:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q3M5UjckfY&

[Marigold]

Will Mammon be available for the first Miracle Ticket or we'd be forced to wait until the second?

[ohjel]

Will Mammon be available for the first Miracle Ticket or we'd be forced to wait until the second?

SSR Mammon isn't due until May, so she actually won't be until the 3rd Miracle ticket. Don't count on her for your thunder team anytime soon.

[Marigold]

SSR Mammon isn't due until May, so she actually won't be until the 3rd Miracle ticket. Don't count on her for your thunder team anytime soon.

Ouch, that's a low blow; I guess EX Ambush will be a Must in Thunder, just like Fire...

[Slashley]

Ouch, that's a low blow; I guess EX Ambush will be a Must in Thunder, just like Fire...Thunder relies on either Tyr for 10% A (or 15% Awakened), or just plain Sniper Shot + Mammon's C debuff. To go the full distance, Thunder teams usually need to use Dartagnan with a Relic Weapon that makes Sniper Shot 30%.

[Marigold]

Thunder relies on either Tyr for 10% A (or 15% Awakened), or just plain Sniper Shot + Mammon's C debuff. To go the full distance, Thunder teams usually need to use Dartagnan with a Relic Weapon that makes Sniper Shot 30%.

Yeah D'Art with her Relic Weapon seems like the way to go for my Thunder Team until then since I don't appreciate under 20% Debuffs for now
But who knows I may end up getting Tyr soon even though my shitty Thunder Team rolls through Ragnarok without deaths

[Unregistered]

There's also the xmas variant of Nyarlathotep (at SR!) a year from now :P

[Chains]

Do we really need to have a "main element" or we can balance each ones ?

[Slashley]

In the long term, specializing is always better. Currently, having balanced-ish elements is doable, but there's more and more mechanics coming up which ensure that not all your elements can be up to spec at the same time.

The Miracle Ticket is the first one (since we didn't get Accessory Quests last week for some reason), so if you're willing to put 50 bucks down for this game, that's where you need to decide which element you will pursue. If not, then you can put that decision off for later when we start getting these mechanics.

[Unregistered]

So almost 3 months after it was first announced, Samael (SSR kamihime) has been added to the gacha yesterday. Back then, I think Aidoru asked if Kitamura Eri voiced her R scenes as well. According to Samael's entry on the wiki, no, Kitamura Eri does not voice her in the R version. She voices her in the all ages version, while they got someone else for the R version.

Oh, and the maintenance yesterday also added 5th floors/levels to the accessory quests. Does that mean that this old-strongest-content-yet becomes the new-strongest-content-yet?

[bigblackcock]

hm? how do you know who voice the characters in game?

[Unregistered]

I don't think we know who voices the other characters, but specifically Samael/Kitamura Eri was one of the announcements at Tokyo Game Show a few months ago. IIRC, she even came on stage for a bit.

[AutoCrimson]

so, how's the luck with raid tickets gacha?

[AznSamsung]

200 tickets and got ssr eld ... got alot of junk but at least some has plus one on them ... just notice that the daily and weekly got shorten alot

[Aidoru]

Oh, and if anyone was interested, the next 3 events images are up. Not filling anything in with the Garuda&Typhon rematch that we already got way early.

What sucks is the next event is also a raid event, a water one. Gonna have some seed issues with 2 raid events in a row. Then a thunder union then an wind advent.

[Slashley]

I have mentioned this earlier, but it's possible that we'll have one Advent in the next three months. So I hope your seeds are ready.

I wonder what are they going to do with Water Raphael, though. Double release along with Light Tsukuyomi? Do the game files handle skipping Dark Amaterasu well? Since she's supposed to be a New Year's release if memory serves... maybe they'll do a triple SSR release?

[Unregistered]

A couple accessory related questions. I'm looking through the Japanese wiki and am a bit confused on a few things.

How does one differentiate between an 'ancient' and a 'normal' accessory?

I'm not familiar with the games calculation/damage formulas. Would an SR accessory with good effects, like say maybe atk up, be better than a SSR accessory with bad/negligible effect like resist up?

[Unregistered]

A bit tough to say, since there are a few details still missing. The wiki doesn't say how much the medium +atk effect is (the small one starts at +2% and maxes out at +3%). I don't think it's also specified whether accessory bonuses get thrown onto assault like with many other things, or if they get to be their own multiplier. The latter would be better than the former.
We do know stats at least; SR accessories max out in the ~700-800 range. SSR accessories max out in the 1080-1300 range (the ones you can exchange for cap at 1080 while the ones that drop go from 1160 to 1300).
The comparison is basically, do the low to mid 3 digits flat increase in raw atk beat the low to maybe mid single digit percentage increase. The lower your atk is, the more it favours the flat increase. But if it turns out that the +atk effect on accessories get added to assault instead, then the actual percentage gain will be a lot smaller than it looks. Which would mean that the high raw atk from SSR accessories would continue to be favoured.

[sanahtlig]

I'm not familiar with the games calculation/damage formulas. Would an SR accessory with good effects, like say maybe atk up, be better than a SSR accessory with bad/negligible effect like resist up?
The SSR accessories have much higher stat caps. The 500 or so attack gain from an SSR is much more important than 6% (3%*2) higher character attack for one character. Also, you can keep farming until you get approximately the effects you want.

Ancient accessories aren't mentioned in earlier versions of the wiki. They were likely added with rank 5 accessory quests.

[ohjel]

The SSR accessories have much higher stat caps. The 500 or so attack gain from an SSR is much more important than 6% (3%*2) higher character attack for one character. Also, you can keep farming until you get approximately the effects you want.

Ancient accessories aren't mentioned in earlier versions of the wiki. They were likely added with rank 5 accessory quests.

At least according to the edit screen, even the raw stats of an acc are also only for the character equipping it. So 500 att will be better, but not massively better. A more interesting question would be how 4% double att chance compares to 500 att.

Realistically though, you shouldn't be spending any effort on leveling your accs until you get good ones.

[Unregistered]

Incidentally, if one goes the route of holding off on seriously leveling accessories until you get what you want, thoughts on leveling temporary accessories?

An R caps in the 500-600 range, while taking 3145 exp to do it. That would take 21 R's of matching element (and/or the R tier rosaries). If you enhance in a batch of 20 R then 1 R, that should take 4900 gems. Or, do it in one batch of 19 R's and 1 SR (again, all matching element) if you want to spend only 2000 gems. (always enhance with matching element for +50% exp)

An SR caps in the 710-800 range, while taking 7245 exp to do it. That's 24 SR's + 1 N. You can do the 20 SRs first to get it to level 37. Then the next batch costs 37*5*100=18.5k gems. Add the 2k gems from the first batch and the total comes out to 20.5k gems. If you want to do it in one batch, you'll need to mix in SSR accessories. 5 SSRs + 14 SRs + 1 N ought to do it.

And SSR takes 13345 exp to max out. You can't do that in a single batch of lv 1 accessories. The simplest way is probably 20 SSRs first to get it to lv 48. Then you'd have 1345 exp left to go; 2 SSR's + 1 R would do that. Gem cost would be 2k from the first batch, plus 48*3*100=14.4k from the second batch for a total of 16.4k.

[Unregistered]

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll temporarily use and level a few SR accessories for progression towards getting SSR accessories since I'm not confident my teams can handle the 4th quest as I lack many healer girls and don't want to rely on rng potion drops. Mabye even selling my N ans R accessories would be a better idea for getting the shop ones. Well regardless, not in a hurry unless there's going to be difficulty spikes in the near future.

[Unregistered]

And SSR takes 13345 exp to max out. You can't do that in a single batch of lv 1 accessories.

Oh, and for trivia reasons, the lowest gem cost way I can think of right now (while still being simple) is do it in a single batch of lv 18 SSR accessories. Lv 18 means an accessory gives 69 exp more than lv 1 would, which should be just enough. Getting one accessory to lv 18 takes 850 exp. The fewest materials needed would be an SSR and SR for that. So that's 200 gems to set up each lv 18 accessory, times 20 such accessories for a total of 4k gems for the setup. Then the final batch takes 2k, so the total gem cost comes out to 6k gems!
...it just took 40 SSRs and 20 SRs along the way (while all matching element!) :P

[VeryVoodoo]

Incidentally, if one goes the route of holding off on seriously leveling accessories until you get what you want, thoughts on leveling temporary accessories?

An R caps in the 500-600 range, while taking 3145 exp to do it. That would take 21 R's of matching element (and/or the R tier rosaries). If you enhance in a batch of 20 R then 1 R, that should take 4900 gems. Or, do it in one batch of 19 R's and 1 SR (again, all matching element) if you want to spend only 2000 gems. (always enhance with matching element for +50% exp)

An SR caps in the 710-800 range, while taking 7245 exp to do it. That's 24 SR's + 1 N. You can do the 20 SRs first to get it to level 37. Then the next batch costs 37*5*100=18.5k gems. Add the 2k gems from the first batch and the total comes out to 20.5k gems. If you want to do it in one batch, you'll need to mix in SSR accessories. 5 SSRs + 14 SRs + 1 N ought to do it.

And SSR takes 13345 exp to max out. You can't do that in a single batch of lv 1 accessories. The simplest way is probably 20 SSRs first to get it to lv 48. Then you'd have 1345 exp left to go; 2 SSR's + 1 R would do that. Gem cost would be 2k from the first batch, plus 48*3*100=14.4k from the second batch for a total of 16.4k.

What are the lvl caps for the accs? I assume it's the same for R/SR/SSR accs too?

[Unregistered]

Lvl caps are 20/30/40/50
That also means that the exp curve for all the rarities are the same; the difference is where they end.

So then, why would you not want to throw 3145 exp at an SSR to get it to lv 30 first, then get the last 20 levels later? You'd still have 10,200 exp to go, but gem costs become more troublesome. The cost to enhance is based on the level of the base accessory and how many materials you use up; what exactly you consume to give it exp has zero bearing on it. It's level * # of materials * 100. So to enhance a lv 30, it's 30 * # of materials * 100 gems. Enhancing is basically a tradeoff between gems and higher rarity accessories; being more efficient with one requires more of the other.

[VeryVoodoo]

In the DMM version, (in the future basically) I take it accs can't be limit broken right?

[Unregistered]

Oh, to be complete, N accessories max out at 300-400 atk. It takes 1045 exp to hit lv 20 (their cap). You can hit that with 14 Ns of the same element in one go for 1400 gems. That's the dirt cheap budget option.

Personally, I think R accessories (500-600 atk) shouldn't be too hard to farm for mid-level players/lazy farmers. As far as I've seen, you can expect 2 silver chests/3 copper chests per run of layer 2. Coppers will drop Ns, silvers here drop mostly Rs (but I've gotten 1 SR to drop this way). It'll take some time to actually get enough matching R's to max out 1 R accessory cheaply. But it's an option to consider if you don't want to bother with the material costs to enter layer 3/4 and/or you're not strong enough for them.

For myself, I don't think that I'm strong enough to reliably farm layer 3, and I kinda don't actually care all that much yet. I'm thinking of opting for Rs for the time being; maybe eventually accrue enough accessory points to trade for the occasional SSR if I ever settle on an element.
Hell, it's possible that I can go for N's first, then switch to R's. N's are cheap enough as is.

[Unregistered]

In the DMM version, (in the future basically) I take it accs can't be limit broken right?

Current information does not mention anything about limit breaking.

That said, layer 5 was introduced in a recent update (4 days ago as of this post). So we'll just have to wait and see what DMM players add to the wiki over time as they suss out what layer 5 introduces.

[sanahtlig]

At least according to the edit screen, even the raw stats of an acc are also only for the character equipping it. So 500 att will be better, but not massively better. A more interesting question would be how 4% double att chance compares to 500 att.

Realistically though, you shouldn't be spending any effort on leveling your accs until you get good ones.
Normal attack damage is about 50% of damage output. I expect a 4% double attack rate increase to increase the average attack rate by a little less than 4%. So damage would increase by a little less than 2%. The effect on Burst damage depends on what your bottleneck for Full Bursts is and whether you're addressing it. 4% double attack on all characters would increase Burst accrual rate by a little less than 4%, buffing Burst damage proportionately.

Meanwhile, I reconsidered the effect of additional character attack, and additional character attack should increase damage by about 46% of the character attack value (2.6% for 6%) in a maxed team using 2x +45% elemental attack eidolons. Meanwhile, +500 attack will increase damage by about 1.3%.

[bigblackcock]

some more recording:
Awakened thor's encounter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csiOPixZmA0
Belial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgDYX5yjT5U
Raguel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8D6y62KHQ
Uriel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5KZiBl3V6Y
Zeruel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZXwNnRhHIw

[Aidoru]

Really hope that 1.5k NG draw isn't all we're getting for Christmas.

[Blueguy]

Unless I'm missing it, I don't see how much exp each accessory is worth prior to actually confirming the enhancement. N is 10, but what about the others?

[Unregistered]

N's are actually worth 50 experience points each
R's are 100
SR's are 200
SSR's are 400
Matching elements multiply the exp by 1.5

Leveling the material would increase how much exp it gives, but it's not linear. There's a table on the wiki if you're curious.
The 50% bonus from matching element kicks in afterwards. So let's say you leveled up an R to lv 15. Lv 15 adds 40 exp, so now that accessory offers (100+40)=140 exp. Matching elements would multiply 140 by 1.5 to get 210.

There will also be rosaries, which are specifically meant to be exp fodder. The R rosary gives 150 and the SR rosary gives 300 exp. They're phantom/illusion element, so I assume no matching bonus for them.

N being worth 10 is actually for accessory points for the exchange; nothing to do with leveling.

[sanahtlig]

I put together a calculator that fully simulates the accessory enhancement process (though it doesn't currently show accessory points gained). You can combine up to 4 different types of fodder per batch of 20.

[bigblackcock]

so...next kami to be awakened is acala ot so it seems.
another fire kami :O
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/394702320476225537/image.png

[Unregistered]

when was Snow Raphael going to be in gacha?

[Unregistered]

Snow Raphael was originally added with the Typhon/Garuda reprint. Of course, we got that way too early. So, who knows? Hopefully she'll be added with the next gacha update since we're heading straight to the next raid event.

Also, Acala freaking needs that awakening.

[Unregistered]

Man that's hurt, I wonder if she will appear in the late of the event just like someone

[AznSamsung]

Ty god ... now i have 3 dmg dealer with awaken

[didimelo100]

So, Miracle Ticket is finally here. Prepare your wallets folks.

■A New Gacha Campaign is now available!■

----------

◆10 Chain Gacha with Miracle Ticket

【Sale Period (PST)】
　12/26 00:00 ～ 1/10 20:00

【Price】
　5000 NutakuGold

【Contents】
　・SRx1 weapon or Eidolon guaranteed 10 chain Gacha with Miracle Ticket x1

　・Exchange availability information can be found in the in-game exchange.
　・Miracle Tickets can be exchanged for a single Kamihime release Weapon of your choice. Eidolons cannot be exchanged.
　・Trading for a Kamihime weapon of a Kamihime you already own, will only grant the weapon. Please be aware that this will not grant a Draconic Eye.
　・Miracle Ticket must be used within 14 days of acquiring them. Please be aware that they will be unusable after their expiration date.
　・Exclusive Kamihime and their Kamihime release weapons are not available for exchange.
　・Kamihime and their Kamihime release weapons added beyond Dec. 26 2017 are not available for exchange.
※1 Limit: 1 per person.
※2 The Gacha can be reached via the Gacha button on your My Page.
※3 After purchase, exchange the Miracle Ticket through the Exchange via your 'My Page'

[Naes]

Well shit, i thought i was going to get sol but theres a few more SSR's than i thought there would be.
i tend to go wind with cu chulain and gaia and this is where most my weapons are invested(the offteam are cybelle and oberon for def debuffs. Other ssr are: (fire)ares (lightning) brahma, raiku. (light) raphael.

what are the pro's thoughts? :P,

[drakkelizer]

hey guys, nice to meet you all. i've got a little problem which couldn't be solved via google. why it didnt let me draw my free daily gacha?

[Naes]

you could have a full inventory and need to clear some space with enhance?
free daily gacha is evil.

[drakkelizer]

but i have 49/50 in both weapons and eidolons. isnt that enough space?

[Naes]

maybe, im just speculating, but if one is maxxed you probably cant draw either, since you get both

[xxMidnightxx]

Hi all. I was wondering if you guys could help me with team building since I don’t fully understand debuff frames and what not. So my team is composed of Cthulu, Ryu-oh (Dragon King), and Shiva, what should I use for the 4th? And is this team good? I heard Cthulu and Ryu-oh are really good water SSRs. Anyways I’m stuck between Amaterasu SSR, Enkidu a water SR, or Nike SR for heals. I also have Tyr and Azazel for SSRs but they’re probs irrelevant in this case. Finally what Hero should I get with what additional ability? I messed up and got Solomon, and Arthur when I first started, but I also have Mordred and I almost have enough for D’art and Morgan. Suggestions?

[Argo]

Looking for some advice for what to grab with the Miracle Ticket.

Currently my main team is Lightning with Cassiopeia, Halloween Michael, Brahma, Ramiel, Skuld, Perun, and Indra. I just got Verethragna and Cherubim, so I'm training those as well.
My secondary team is Fire to cover Lightning's weakness with Roland (training), Ragaraja, Raguel, Brynhildr, Amon, Dazbog, and Zeruel. I also have Baphomet and Ignis.
I just became able to use a tertiary team of Light, with Roland (training), Santa Satan, Artemis, Christmas Perun, Belobog, Dike, and Urania. I also have Inanna and Orpheus.

I have D'artagnan as a Legendary Soul, but lack any SR or higher guns other than Brahma's so I can only use her effectively with Lighting, I think. But I've been using Cass for the healing. For SSR Eidolons I have Girimekhala, Archangel, Mii, Evil Kaiser Dragoon, Jack Frost, Hecatonchires, and Saint Nicholas.

I was thinking I ought to grab Sol because she's one of the most recommended Kamihime ever, and my main Lightning team could really use a healer. She'd also be a second SSR for my new Light team, so there's a really good argument for her. I'm just wondering if that's what I should go with, or if I should grab another Lightning SSR like Tyr or something for my main team.
Only started playing more commonly since November, so any other team advice would be appreciated too. Dunno if this is all okay to ask here, I just signed up.

[Sfay]

Your setup is kinda awkward, as Cthulu and Ryu-oh, even though they have 2 of the best skillsets in the game, don't synergize well. <br />
<br />
To give you an idea of how &quot;perfect water teams&quot; work, Cthulu...

[Slashley]

--
Sol is probably better as long as Nutaku doesn't have the 50% Attack down cap, but this will happen at some point (I think it's soon?).--Japan got it on Valentine patch. So we're about two months away.

[Sfay]

Looking for some advice for what to grab with the Miracle Ticket.

Currently my main team is Lightning with Cassiopeia, Halloween Michael, Brahma, Ramiel, Skuld, Perun, and Indra. I just got Verethragna and Cherubim, so I'm training those as well.
My secondary team is Fire to cover Lightning's weakness with Roland (training), Ragaraja, Raguel, Brynhildr, Amon, Dazbog, and Zeruel. I also have Baphomet and Ignis.
I just became able to use a tertiary team of Light, with Roland (training), Santa Satan, Artemis, Christmas Perun, Belobog, Dike, and Urania. I also have Inanna and Orpheus.

I have D'artagnan as a Legendary Soul, but lack any SR or higher guns other than Brahma's so I can only use her effectively with Lighting, I think. But I've been using Cass for the healing. For SSR Eidolons I have Girimekhala, Archangel, Mii, Evil Kaiser Dragoon, Jack Frost, Hecatonchires, and Saint Nicholas.

I was thinking I ought to grab Sol because she's one of the most recommended Kamihime ever, and my main Lightning team could really use a healer. She'd also be a second SSR for my new Light team, so there's a really good argument for her. I'm just wondering if that's what I should go with, or if I should grab another Lightning SSR like Tyr or something for my main team.
Only started playing more commonly since November, so any other team advice would be appreciated too. Dunno if this is all okay to ask here, I just signed up.

I agree with Sol. The few SSRs you have aren't too useful for other elements so you would rather have one that is versatile. The Thunder SSRs you have aren't outstanding either so there's also the possibility you switch your main team in the Future. Even with all that, Sol is really good in Thunder teams anyways.

The only way I would recommand something else is if you're commited to always use Thunder and never use other elements apart from Fire for Wind coverage, in which case Tyr is better than Sol (not even by that much), but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Coconut]

Is it just me or are raid events extremely grindy? I've finished an advent (up to both SSRs at least), I've finished a union event, but I don't think I've ever finished a raid.

[xxMidnightxx]

Bruh this is a godsend reply! Thank you so much brother! So yeah I had Ryu-Oh and Shiva already and just miracle Cthulu. Im loving the Cthulu, SSR Nike/Aphro, Water Raphael, and Ryu-Oh...

[Slashley]

--So abilities in different frame tiers stack in debuff say attack/def down, but same tiers don’t and just misses?Yes. A weaker B debuff (like Mordred's 10% Outrage) will just miss against a stronger B debuff (like Dartagnan's 20% Sniper Shot). Sniper Shot will overwrite Outrage, but this is currently bugged, so make sure to apply Sniper Shot first.
And are A frames the strongest?No... well, SSR Amon has -25% which is currently outmatched. But -50% is the cap (for Def, no cap on Atk debuffs until valentine).
Last but not least, is there a way to tell which debuff is in which frame w/o knowing? Tysm!One way is the encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all the skills, including upcoming ones.

[Unregistered]

Is it just me or are raid events extremely grindy? I've finished an advent (up to both SSRs at least), I've finished a union event, but I don't think I've ever finished a raid.

Yea, they've been really time consuming. It'll be like this for 3 more raids (Reiki/Amphisbaena/Icarus), then the reward lists change up a lot with Barong. At that time, the # of souls needed to max out the SSRs drop to 50 blue/55 red. It's also tweaked such that drawing either just 1 of the eidolon or the weapon would reduce the necessary work instead of the weapon specifically (weapon's at 50 blue/eidolon's at 55 red instead of the weapon topping both lists currently).

[drakkelizer]

quick question. i'm almost at my inventory limit. what should i do with all the Rs weapons and eidolons? More importantly what should i do with all SRs enhance material drops (weapons and eidolon)? -i have a ton of light Rs and some SRs-
at the moment i have:
-just 2 SR weapons
-the 3 starters Srs KH (amon, cybelle, nike) and 3 Rs
-SSR ouroboros and 2 SRs (diabolos and sephiroth)

Ps. also, should i limit break the starters KHs? is it worth? im asking since im just 1 item away for limit break amon and today is the daily so...

thanks in advance guys!

[Slashley]

Starter Hime are all you have. Nike and Cybele are quite decent, Amon isn't bad either. In the long run, Limit Break materials won't be an issue to you either.

Feel free to enchant away your R weapons and Eidolons, though I guess you don't really have a target for those yet.

[Sfay]

quick question. i'm almost at my inventory limit. what should i do with all the Rs weapons and eidolons? More importantly what should i do with all SRs enhance material drops (weapons and eidolon)? -i have a ton of light Rs and some SRs-
at the moment i have:
-just 2 SR weapons
-the 3 starters Srs KH (amon, cybelle, nike) and 3 Rs
-SSR ouroboros and 2 SRs (diabolos and sephiroth)

Ps. also, should i limit break the starters KHs? is it worth? im asking since im just 1 item away for limit break amon and today is the daily so...

thanks in advance guys!

The Enhance material drops are solely useful to level up the Weapons and Eidolons you're actually using. Use them on your stronger Weapons/Eidolons to level them up.

For your regular R Eidolons, you should keep 3 to reach 6 Eidolons for your team, and use the rest the same way, as enhance fodder.

The regular R Weapons are a bit trickier since they give Skill level exp. SSR, SR and R weapons have improvable skills and the most common skills improve the Attack (Assault skill) or HP (Defender skill) by 0.5% per level of every Kamihime in your team sharing the same element as your weapon. Use those to level up the skills of your SSR and SR weapons. On an SR Weapon, use a number of R weapons equal to the current skill level of the weapon (1 at level 1, 2 at level 2, etc...) for a guaranteed skill level up. SSR weapons would require exactly double the amount (2 at level 1, 4 at level 2, 6 at level 3 etc...), and R weapons helf of it if you ever upgrade the skill level of an R weapon, but that's not recommended since you'll get rid of your R weapons eventually. Max skill level is 20 by the way, though you're nowhere close to that yet.

As for the KH, yes you should Break Limit them. The Limit breaking of Kamihime requires materials required only for that, so the only reason to not Limit Break one would be because you want to keep the materials for another one. Limit breaking increases the max level a Kamihime can reach, so that's something that needs to be done when possible.

[drakkelizer]

Starter Hime are all you have. Nike and Cybele are quite decent, Amon isn't bad either. In the long run, Limit Break materials won't be an issue to you either.

Feel free to enchant away your R weapons and Eidolons, though I guess you don't really have a target for those yet.


The Enhance material drops are solely useful to level up the Weapons and Eidolons you're actually using. Use them on your stronger Weapons/Eidolons to level them up.

For your regular R Eidolons, you should keep 3 to reach 6 Eidolons for your team, and use the rest the same way, as enhance fodder.

The regular R Weapons are a bit trickier since they give Skill level exp. SSR, SR and R weapons have improvable skills and the most common skills improve the Attack (Assault skill) or HP (Defender skill) by 0.5% per level of every Kamihime in your team sharing the same element as your weapon. Use those to level up the skills of your SSR and SR weapons. On an SR Weapon, use a number of R weapons equal to the current skill level of the weapon (1 at level 1, 2 at level 2, etc...) for a guaranteed skill level up. SSR weapons would require exactly double the amount (2 at level 1, 4 at level 2, 6 at level 3 etc...), and R weapons helf of it if you ever upgrade the skill level of an R weapon, but that's not recommended since you'll get rid of your R weapons eventually. Max skill level is 20 by the way, though you're nowhere close to that yet.

As for the KH, yes you should Break Limit them. The Limit breaking of Kamihime requires materials required only for that, so the only reason to not Limit Break one would be because you want to keep the materials for another one. Limit breaking increases the max level a Kamihime can reach, so that's something that needs to be done when possible.

thanks for the quick response guys :D my issue with weapons and eidolons is mainly for the excess of space that Enhance Materials occupy.
Being more specific as for Weapon Enhance Materials (all Light) i've got :
-SRs: 3 Axes
-Rs: 6 Swords, 7 Glaives, 4 Lances, 4 Staves, 3 Hammers and one of each other type of weapons.
And for Eidolon Enhance Materials:
-SRs: 3 Wind, 3 Thunder
-Rs: 2 Fire, 2 Thunder
That's a lot of fodder dont you think? Hahaha

[bigblackcock]

and once again, got up the skill level of LB0 weapon to use andromeda XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ktB946p1g

[didimelo100]

Seeing that you guys talk about debuff frames, i'm curious to know where i can see the kamihimes abilities frames like Belobog's attack debuff for example so i can optimize my team. :confused:

[VeryVoodoo]

Seeing that you guys talk about debuff frames, i'm curious to know where i can see the kamihimes abilities frames like Belobog's attack debuff for example so i can optimize my team. :confused:

The JP Wiki has charts/tables of all the abilities and their frames here: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://%E7%A5%9E%E5%A7%AB%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%8 2%A7%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88.%E6%94%BB%E7%95%A5wiki.com/index.php?%E3%83%90%E3%83%95%E3%83%BB%E3%83%80%E3% 83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A2%E3%83%83%E3%83%97 %E7%B3%BB/%E3%83%86%E3%83%BC%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB#fc1b3e64

The English Wiki has something similar (though it's much less complete) here: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Abilities

There are also various compilations of charts & tables from various players that list all the abilities and frames (Maru has a really excellent one), but I wouldn't feel comfortable linking to those here without them knowing.

[Slashley]

Seeing that you guys talk about debuff frames, i'm curious to know where i can see the kamihimes abilities frames like Belobog's attack debuff for example so i can optimize my team. :confused:The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all abilities, including frames.

[LeCrestfallen]

English Wiki page started to add the frames and % of debuffs, its still incomplete though.

[didimelo100]

Since miracle ticket arrival, i don't want to mess things up and choose a "not useful" kamihime for my team so this will help a lot in my choice. Thanks guys!

[Katina]

There is a post with only best SR set-up for each element ?

[blubbergott]

Hi, I'm currently at the point where i should probably decide what to focus on, so I'd like to ask for some advice/suggestions. Currently I have the following Kamihime available:

Light - SSR: Sol, Michael - SR: Uranus, Belobog, Diana
Dark - SSR: Susanoo, Osiris - SR: Tsukuyomi
Fire - SSR: Yamaraja - SR: Amon, Brynhildr, Agni
Water - SR: Nike, Kikuri-Hime, Enkidu, Triton, Oceanus
Wind - SR: Cybele, Cronus, Maeve, Krampus
Thunder - SR: Baal, Astrea

Everything feels a bit spread out right now. Best in my eyes is currently Light: -45% ATK, -30% DEF with Mordred+Ambush, Sol, Michael, Uranus and Belobog. The other elements besides Thunder are performing somewhat decently too though. Would you suggest to just focus on Light for now, or rather improve the other 4 evenly too, use the elemental avantages and decide later?

Also quick question: If you decide to focus on an element, does that mean prioritizing leveling SR weapons of said element over SSRs of other elements to make full use of the weapon skills?

Anyways, I'm a bit conflicted on the best way to proceed right now, so I'm happy about any suggestions. :)

[sanahtlig]

Hi, I'm currently at the point where i should probably decide what to focus on, so I'd like to ask for some advice/suggestions. Currently I have the following Kamihime available:

Light - SSR: Sol, Michael - SR: Uranus, Belobog, Diana
Dark - SSR: Susanoo, Osiris - SR: Tsukuyomi
Fire - SSR: Yamaraja - SR: Amon, Brynhildr, Agni
Water - SR: Nike, Kikuri-Hime, Enkidu, Triton, Oceanus
Wind - SR: Cybele, Cronus, Maeve, Krampus
Thunder - SR: Baal, Astrea

Everything feels a bit spread out right now. Best in my eyes is currently Light: -45% ATK, -30% DEF with Mordred+Ambush, Sol, Michael, Uranus and Belobog. The other elements besides Thunder are performing somewhat decently too though. Would you suggest to just focus on Light for now, or rather improve the other 4 evenly too, use the elemental avantages and decide later?

Also quick question: If you decide to focus on an element, does that mean prioritizing leveling SR weapons of said element over SSRs of other elements to make full use of the weapon skills?

Anyways, I'm a bit conflicted on the best way to proceed right now, so I'm happy about any suggestions. :)
Pick up Amaterasu for your Light team and run with Joan + Black Propaganda. Pick up Light Tsukuyomi with your 2nd Miracle ticket. Raphael is another alternative for Amaterasu.
Team: Sol, Michael, Diana, Amaterasu

Sadly, this will only be a marginal upgrade for your Fire team, but should you land any other SSRs you Fire team could suddenly become much better.

[blubbergott]

Pick up Amaterasu for your Light team and run with Joan + Black Propaganda. Pick up Light Tsukuyomi with your 2nd Miracle ticket. Raphael is another alternative for Amaterasu.
Team: Sol, Michael, Diana, Amaterasu

Sadly, this will only be a marginal upgrade for your Fire team, but should you land any other SSRs you Fire team could suddenly become much better.

Thanks, already spent my first miracle ticket on Sol sadly, so i probably won't really have access to Amaterasu anytime soon. :/
What would be a good substitution for now? Belebog would come to mind, but that would overlap with Joan's attack debuff if I go that route.

[Unregistered]

Sol, Diana. Micheal and Belebog. Morded with Sniper Shot. You'll be well over the eventually capped atk down debuff. -55% atk down, 65 if you have Jorm or Yata eidolon. 35% def down from Diana and Sniper Shot.

If you dont need Black Prop, you can replace Belebog and use Joan with Sniper for defensive utility, or you can replace Diana and use Gawain with Sniper for -40% def. Of course you don't need to replace the kamihimes if you don't want to if change your soul.

[blubbergott]

Sol, Diana. Micheal and Belebog. Morded with Sniper Shot. You'll be well over the eventually capped atk down debuff. -55% atk down, 65 if you have Jorm or Yata eidolon. 35% def down from Diana and Sniper Shot.

If you dont need Black Prop, you can replace Belebog and use Joan with Sniper for defensive utility, or you can replace Diana and use Gawain with Sniper for -40% def. Of course you don't need to replace the kamihimes if you don't want to if change your soul.

That sounds good, time to get D'Artagnan i guess. :)

Thanks a bunch!

[AznSamsung]

Snow rapha is out

[didimelo100]

For the people that freaked out about Hercules, she is finally here. And Water enthusiasts can try their luck trying to get Snow Raphael from the Gacha (Better wait for another SSR Kami garanteed at least).

[Slimee]

Hi I'm unsure about what to use my Miracle Ticket on and which element to focus on. These are the ones I have:

Wind - SSR: Azazel, Gaia SR: Cybele, Iblis, Krampus, Cronus
Water - SSR: Aphrodite, Cthulhu SR: Nike
Thunder - SSR: Brahma, Thor SR: Nemesis, Baal
Light - SR: Belobog, Diana
Fire - SR: Amon, Agni, Motu

Currently using Mordred with Ambush.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[Unregistered]

We also get Hercules with her first set of buffs (lowered cooldowns by 1 turn/raise duration of buffs by 1 turn).

Slimee:
If you're the type to stick with 2 teams, then I'm thinking of SSR Nike, with Water/Wind being your main two. Ryuu-Oh is another good pick if you're not bothered by her rendering Cthulhu's A-frame atk debuff obsolete.

But if you're the type to constantly change teams for elemental advantage, then don't pick a water kamihime. Unless we get a rerun of a reprint that we've already gotten, we're not gonna see Fire for another... 17 or 18 events? Somewhere in that area.
Sol and Amaterasu are safe utility picks to raise the floor of your other teams. I'm not sure if they're necessarily optimal, but they will never be bad picks.
Probably don't want to pick a different Light kamihime. Aside from Sol being the most useful one, I only expect 1 Dark event for us in the next 5-6 months. Fire will see more use, as there's... about 4 times we'll see Wind in the next 6 months. 1 advent, 1 raid, 1 reprint of that 1 advent, 1 union.
But if you stick with using Mordred, then Sol looks better.
We'll also see Thunder about 4 times in the next 6 months; 1 union, 1 reprint of that union, 1 reprint of Mastema advent, and 1 raid. But we don't yet have the awesome wind SSRs.
For Water, we'll see a raid (next event!), union, raid, Vritra reprint, and a new advent in the next 6 months or so. I have my doubts that spending the miracle ticket on Tyr or Raijin/Raikou/whatever is worth it.

[sanahtlig]

Hi I'm unsure about what to use my Miracle Ticket on and which element to focus on. These are the ones I have:

Wind - SSR: Azazel, Gaia SR: Cybele, Iblis, Krampus, Cronus
Water - SSR: Aphrodite, Cthulhu SR: Nike
Thunder - SSR: Brahma, Thor SR: Nemesis, Baal
Light - SR: Belobog, Diana
Fire - SR: Amon, Agni, Motu

Currently using Mordred with Ambush.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
I'd recommend going the Dragon King build with Water. See my Water guide for details.

Alternatively, you can pick up Sol, who will benefit most of your teams, and your Wind and Water teams especially.

[Coconut]

Tried to get Snow Raph with gatcha rolls, ended up with Odin, Yamaraj, Shiva and Sleipnir instead. Not bad 3x 10 chain jewel rolls, 2 Kamihime tickets, and 9 premium tickets, but there goes my team-building theory. Rainbow forever I guess.

[bigblackcock]

water raphael (snow angel) encounter episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0eee-Ynud0

[Unregistered]

Hello I need some help.

I can't decide what to choose from Miracle Ticket.Curently I'm using

Brahman,Raiko,tyr,Ramiel and Nemesis.(should I go for Jupiter?Thor?)

Ares,Acala,Brynhildr,Agni.(Amaterasu?)

Ea,Aphrodite.

Thanks for your help.

[bigblackcock]

hmm...not sure about what to use my AP on anymore...
sp quest will help me to farme runes for layer 4, fangs and and holy stars that can help me later with LB kami or awakened kamis.
raid boss can help me to farm seeds, sr weapons to use as mats to level up skill level and materials.
i heard those materials can be exchanged for more advanced mats and then to soul weapon which are nice.
also gem SP quest to farm gems for gacha draws, limit break (aawakened kami) and accessories is also needed.
so...should i do sp quest and later on join ragnarok raid boss when they are out?
or maybe raid boss and just clear layer 3 accessory quest for the time being as they also have a chance to drop SSR accessory?
or maybe gem quest to get more gems?

[J4fusion]

hmm...not sure about what to use my AP on anymore...
sp quest will help me to farme runes for layer 4, fangs and and holy stars that can help me later with LB kami or awakened kamis.
raid boss can help me to farm seeds, sr weapons to use as mats to level up skill level and materials.
i heard those materials can be exchanged for more advanced mats and then to soul weapon which are nice.
also gem SP quest to farm gems for gacha draws, limit break (aawakened kami) and accessories is also needed.
so...should i do sp quest and later on join ragnarok raid boss when they are out?
or maybe raid boss and just clear layer 3 accessory quest for the time being as they also have a chance to drop SSR accessory?
or maybe gem quest to get more gems?

That's the largest question we should answer ourselves. My Answer is simple. I say split your properties. 4-5 hours before each AP reset, which equals to 3 times(4-5 times if you dont care about sleep) of a day to do something with your AP. There is no advent event coming for a bit and if you are anything like me you use no elixirs during raid and union events which leaves a lot of room for use for the Gem and other Guerrilla quest. Now, set a schedule for each moment(EX: Me, I set Accessory quest last due care for the missions.) Raids are based on luck but is easier than depend on AP if it happens a lot and with a 2 hrs cooldown that will help some of the anxiety but not all. Luckily, I did say set a schedule. One of the resets should give you(use my AP as an explain.) 5 STANs or 3 EXs so that should satisfy you unless you want to throw one choice or this choice to focus on another(<----this word will forever send chills down my spine.)


This is all I can come up with, does this sufficient?

[AznSamsung]

Question to those who record their rolls and gameplay ... wat do u use to record it ...

[Unregistered]

Hi, I have a question, is there any kamihime that can dispel enemy buff aside from Sol?

Thank you.

[VeryVoodoo]

Hi, I have a question, is there any kamihime that can dispel enemy buff aside from Sol?

Thank you.
Light Perun and Halloween Artemis.
And while not a kamihime, Cassiopeia has her Chaos Magic ability, which obviously can be equipped as an extra ability on any soul.

[Slashley]

Question to those who record their rolls and gameplay ... wat do u use to record it ...OBS.

I just use Screen Capture and... shift-drag? Alt-drag? I forget. But you can drop the area that is being recorded, then "transform" to fit screen so that you don't record huge areas of black.
Hi, I have a question, is there any kamihime that can dispel enemy buff aside from Sol?

Thank you.The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all the skills, just search for Dispel. The only ones out for now were mentioned by VeryVoodoo though.

[AznSamsung]

happy new year everyone .... and good luck to those rolling for dark ama


Throughs on the new 100k gold packet

[Unregistered]

So I've been wondering about this for a very long time but what's the deal with the amount of chests you see drop to the amount of chests you actually get? Very often you see more chests drop than you actually get. Do those extra chests represent anything?

[Unregistered]

I interpret the extra chests that appear opened already to represent gems.

[bigblackcock]

Eclipse princess amaterasu's encounter episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNQ8QFd9sPY
Kagutsuchi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hEh3cX0wQg
konohana sakuya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0dNrF5NW3E

[AznSamsung]

between Jupiter and Tyr, who is a better hime?

[Slashley]

Tyr. The A Def debuff is invaluable for Thunder teams until Mammon era.

Jupiter doesn't have much going for her, though she is good against Rage phases.

[Unregistered]

Can someone tell me if element resist down is calculated the same way def down is? Essentially giving you the ability to bypass the -50% def cap?

[Slashley]

Can someone tell me if element resist down is calculated the same way def down is?Yes.
Essentially giving you the ability to bypass the -50% def cap?No.

Think of it as a element-specific C frame Def Down. It'll get you to -50% quite easily, and other elements won't get it, but otherwise it's "just" another Def Down.

[MrTouchdown]

Game keeps throwing thunder kamis on me , i got Mardook and Nemesis in the same Jewel gacha, thunder Nyarla from SR guaranteed ticket, and today i got Hermod from a premium ticket, im currently running this party i add on the screenshot, but im thinking if i can get the best advantage of all those girls, im going to unlock D'art in 2 levels.

[PowerCast]

I made an alt about 3 weeks back, spent a dozen hours re-rolling until I got a good number of Kami SSRs.

I'm pretty happy with the alt's development so far, already at 27k atk, and I'm considering a miracle ticket purchase.

I would like recommendations and viewpoints.

I haven't made multi element teams, I've been mostly keeping my team Cthulu, Osiris, Satan and rotating the other three slots to level up various Kamis.

Current Kami SR or higher, the number is limit break (0-4 stars):

Fire: Amon (SR2)
Water: Nike (SR4), Cthulu (SSR3)
Grass: Cybele (SR1), Maeve (SR1), Krampus (SR2)
Lightning: Ramiel (SR0), Baal (SR1), Hermod (SR1)
Light: Artemis (SR1), [Lightspeed] Hermod (SR2), Uzume (SR1)
Dark: Nyarlathotep (SR3), Osiris (SSR3), Satan (SSR4)

I have a 2 Light, 3 Water SSR Eidolons, and the rest are SR. 7SSR Weapons of various types so far, and a half dozen leveled SRs.

[sanahtlig]

I haven't made multi element teams, I've been mostly keeping my team Cthulu, Osiris, Satan and rotating the other three slots to level up various Kamis.

I'd pick up Hades. Note that your Dark team will be a bit underpowered without Thanatos prior to Satan's awakening. You can read my Dark guide for more details.

[PowerCast]

I'd pick up Hades. Note that your Dark team will be a bit underpowered without Thanatos prior to Satan's awakening. You can read my Dark guide for more details.

I've got Arthur, Mordred, and Solomon unlocked. I was thinking Siegfried would be my next goal. Should I keep using Mordred for the debuffs or Switch to something else if I get a Hades?

[PowerCast]

I originally did all that rerolling for a Sol + any SSR (and gave up after 12 hours no Sols).. and I got a weak but nice for damage healer with Osiris, but I'm still tempted by Sol since she can heal for all element builds....

[Aidoru]

If you still plan to reroll, going for Dark Amaterasu would be better if you want to use a dark team, in fact, she's the highest priority for them.

As for your current set up, your goal should be getting D'art for Sniper Shot, because you don't have Dark Amaterasu and you already missed the Koihime event, thus you have no b-frame debuffs at all and because dark teams don't have any aside from those two, if you miss her, you're stuck using Sniper Shot for another year until the event comes back. Siegfied is bottom of the list, she's not even worth getting til the end, her mastery bonus is garbage and her ex skills aren't important.

[sanahtlig]

Sol is fine but I'm not sure she'll fit in a group with Osiris. She'd complement Cthulhu, but Dragon King or SSR Nike would probably be better picks if you wanted to focus on Water. I recommend starting with Sol since it minimizes the rerolling required, as she can fit into random builds based on what the Gatcha gives you. Since you rerolled for 2/4 of an optimized team, Sol is less valuable to you. You should further optimize your best team, not generalize.

For the Dark build with Osiris, you'll want to use Mordred with Sniper Shot. That means picking up D'art next. Mordred will help you land your debuffs, and Black Propaganda is indispensable for most content.

[sanahtlig]

If you still plan to reroll, going for Dark Amaterasu would be better if you want to use a dark team, in fact, she's the highest priority for them.
If you want to go back to rerolling, this is good advice too. Dark Amaterasu + one of the other recommended Dark SSRs would be a really good haul. But so would the +100% eidolons. There's always something better to reroll for, but the question is do you want to spend your time rerolling or playing?

[Aidoru]

Well according to him, it's his alt account, so I would assume hes already 'playing' with his main. Unless he plans to swap over.

[PowerCast]

I appreciate all the advice..

I'm currently playing 'both' accounts, with the hours I put into the alt in the last three weeks + 2 events, no way I'm doing any more re-rolling, that was so boring.

If I decide to spend cash on this game, I'll probably go with the Hades, and I'll be sure to prioritize D'dartagnan next either way.

[Wpmz]

If you want to go dark you have some flexibility as you have Nyarl which covers both dark A frame debuffs. Hades is a good choice but you could also go amon. Alternatively you have cthulhu so you could try to put together a water team by picking either ryu-oh or ssr nike. If you don't want to really commit to a team right now sol is generally useful in a lot of situations.

[Unregistered]

Yes.No.

Think of it as a element-specific C frame Def Down. It'll get you to -50% quite easily, and other elements won't get it, but otherwise it's "just" another Def Down.

In addition, the wiki page for light Tsukuyomi points out that the element resist debuff also reduces resistance against debuffs from that specific element. So light resist debuff functions both as light-specific def down and a debuff resist down effect for light-only.
So if you don't already have a normal debuff resist debuff, you use the element resist debuff first, then try to throw your other debuffs (from kamihime of the same element).

[Coconut]

When should I next roll jewels? Is it Ashirato?

Fire: Yamaraja, Ceridwen, Agni, Amon, Baphomet, Nergal etc. + MLB Yatagarasu
Water: Cthulhu, Shiva, Belphegor, Nodens, Kikuri-hime, Nike SR + MLB Jack Frost
Wind: Odin, Krampus, Guan-Yu, Cybele SR, Zephyrus + Sleipnir lvl 40
Thunder: Thor, Nemesis, Perun + LB3 Mastema
Dark: Lu Bu, Nyarlathotep + MLB Jack-o-Lantern
Light: Metatron, Urania, no other debuffs but lots of attack+ MLB St. Nicholas

Thanks!

[bigblackcock]

Reiki's encounter episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQVxjdtL2c
Uzume:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGZMI7riU7g
moonlight maiden tsukuyomi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjdPb0xfCP8

[sanahtlig]

In addition, the wiki page for light Tsukuyomi points out that the element resist debuff also reduces resistance against debuffs from that specific element. So light resist debuff functions both as light-specific def down and a debuff resist down effect for light-only.
So if you don't already have a normal debuff resist debuff, you use the element resist debuff first, then try to throw your other debuffs (from kamihime of the same element).
That's interesting, but one of the features of Mordred's debuff resistance down ability is that it rarely misses. The same probably can't be said for Tsukuyomi's ability. For my Water team, if debuff resistance down misses, I'll often get multiple misses of other debuffs, and that can easily cause a wipe in difficult content like Accessory Quests Rank 4.

[Hebert22]

A little doubt what happens to the MC after spending the 2 scenes H of Yamaraja

[Unregistered]

i've rerolled some acc on the past days and i don't know what acc go with:

Tsukuyomi (light) + Raiko
Sol + Osiris
Amon U + Tsukuyomi (light)
Tsukuyomi (light) + Cu Chulain + Thunderbird (eidolon)
Amon U + Amaterasu (fire)
Ares + Thor
Amaterasu (dark) + Schiva
Amaterasu (dark) + Amon U
Ryu Ho + Tsukuyomi (light)
Hades + Michael + Echina(eidolon)
Tsukuyomi + Aphrodite
Susanoo + Titania

[Iverna]

i've rerolled some acc on the past days and i don't know what acc go with:

Tsukuyomi (light) + Raiko
Sol + Osiris
Amon U + Tsukuyomi (light)
Tsukuyomi (light) + Cu Chulain + Thunderbird (eidolon)
Amon U + Amaterasu (fire)
Ares + Thor
Amaterasu (dark) + Schiva
Amaterasu (dark) + Amon U
Ryu Ho + Tsukuyomi (light)
Hades + Michael + Echina(eidolon)
Tsukuyomi + Aphrodite
Susanoo + Titania

wtf lol I rerolled 100 accounts and didn't get a single light Tsukuyomi...I'm jealous.

[Unregistered]

Amon Unleashed and (dark) Amaterasu if you want to focus on dark.

Sol and Osiris if you're doing the switch teams around every event thing.

[LeCrestfallen]

i've rerolled some acc on the past days and i don't know what acc go with:

Tsukuyomi (light) + Raiko
Sol + Osiris
Amon U + Tsukuyomi (light)
Tsukuyomi (light) + Cu Chulain + Thunderbird (eidolon)
Amon U + Amaterasu (fire)
Ares + Thor
Amaterasu (dark) + Schiva
Amaterasu (dark) + Amon U
Ryu Ho + Tsukuyomi (light)
Hades + Michael + Echina(eidolon)
Tsukuyomi + Aphrodite
Susanoo + Titania

Amon unleashed + dark amaterasu is a pretty damn strong combination ~~ you could invest a miracle ticket to get a third ssr dark hime and start with an amazing team.

[Aidoru]

Dark Amaterasu and Amon Unleashed is probably the best one. You just need to get Joan with Black Propaganda and you're set with 2 free slots for whatever himes you want. If you use a miracle ticket, grab Hades and you'll be free to use whatever soul you want or Osiris if you don't want to be forced to use Andromeda to handle heals for certain content.

[Unregistered]

thanks for the help and the advises ^^

[Unregistered]

wtf lol I rerolled 100 accounts and didn't get a single light Tsukuyomi...I'm jealous.

I even got her with another light kami. metatron or whatever. i guess i can share since i dont use.

i got her like 3 or 4 times and i didnt roll 100 times :D

[bigblackcock]

Dark Amaterasu and Amon Unleashed is probably the best one. You just need to get Joan with Black Propaganda and you're set with 2 free slots for whatever himes you want. If you use a miracle ticket, grab Hades and you'll be free to use whatever soul you want or Osiris if you don't want to be forced to use Andromeda to handle heals for certain content.

isn't 1 of dark amaterasu's skills is the same as black propaganda?

[Aidoru]

isn't 1 of dark amaterasu's skills is the same as black propaganda?

Oh it was, I had forgotten about that since I was so focused on her b-frame debuff. Well I guess you can skip Mordred too as well and just use Joan for the atk down, heals and mitigation.

[sanahtlig]

Dark Amaterasu and Amon Unleashed is probably the best one. You just need to get Joan with Black Propaganda and you're set with 2 free slots for whatever himes you want. If you use a miracle ticket, grab Hades and you'll be free to use whatever soul you want or Osiris if you don't want to be forced to use Andromeda to handle heals for certain content.
I did some thinking after helping a user decide what to do with his Black Amaterasu and Gaia reroll, and realized that Dark Amaterasu entirely changes the Dark build strategy. Dark Amon / Satan are no longer required in a team with Dark Amaterasu. Instead, such players should aim for a Burst build with Shingen. They'll run Shingen + Ambush, Osiris (heals and synergy with Shingen), Hades, Thanatos (DEF -40% -> -50%), and Dark Amaterasu. That covers all core debuffs (including overdrive extension), gets DEF to -50%, and enables double damage with Bursts, allowing Dark teams to Burst right through Rage phases. This build is not possible without Dark Amaterasu, as it would require sacrificing either overdrive extension or Sniper Shot.

I added this to my guide as a third build for Miracle tickets, but I'm not sure if it's worth elaborating on since Dark Amaterasu is limited and therefore it'll just be a distraction to most players.

[Unregistered]

Yes, it is, "Sealing of the setting sun"

[Laventale]

I did some thinking after helping a user decide what to do with his Black Amaterasu and Gaia reroll, and realized that Dark Amaterasu entirely changes the Dark build strategy. Dark Amon / Satan are no longer required in a team with Dark Amaterasu. Instead, such players should aim for a Burst build with Shingen. They'll run Shingen + Ambush, Osiris (heals and synergy with Shingen), Hades, Thanatos, and Dark Amaterasu. That covers all debuffs (including overdrive extension), gets DEF to -50%, and enables double damage with Bursts, allowing Dark teams to Burst right through Rage phases.

That's pretty much a dream team, but shit costs like $200, AT LEAST. Not an easy task by any means.

[Unregistered]

I'm a f2p by all mean .-.
Should i go with sol + Osiris?

[sanahtlig]

That's pretty much a dream team, but shit costs like $200, AT LEAST. Not an easy task by any means.
Since the build assumes you start with Dark Amaterasu, it only costs $150! And it'll take 7 months to assemble. So only $21 a month!

[Slashley]

I'm a f2p by all mean .-.
Should i go with sol + Osiris?Are you the guy with all the accounts?

Usually, starting with a healer is a great boon, but with Dark Amaterasu + SSR Amon, you can just run Andromeda. If you're not willing to pay for Miracle tickets, your team will be damn good still. Just rush Andromeda as your Soul followed up by Joan for Trial by Jury, and you'll be sitting at heals + -40% Atk debuff + -45% Def debuff + Black Propaganda. And this with two slots open still. It doesn't get much better than that without Miracle tickets.

[Yolodesu]

I did some thinking after helping a user decide what to do with his Black Amaterasu and Gaia reroll, and realized that Dark Amaterasu entirely changes the Dark build strategy. Dark Amon / Satan are no longer required in a team with Dark Amaterasu. Instead, such players should aim for a Burst build with Shingen. They'll run Shingen + Ambush, Osiris (heals and synergy with Shingen), Hades, Thanatos (DEF -40% -> -50%), and Dark Amaterasu. That covers all core debuffs (including overdrive extension), gets DEF to -50%, and enables double damage with Bursts, allowing Dark teams to Burst right through Rage phases. This build is not possible without Dark Amaterasu, as it would require sacrificing either overdrive extension or Sniper Shot.

I added this to my guide as a third build for Miracle tickets, but I'm not sure if it's worth elaborating on since Dark Amaterasu is limited and therefore it'll just be a distraction to most players.

Imo for a burst oriented build, Satan would be a good (if not better) alternative to Hades (and then change ambush for Trial by jury) :

-You'll still hit -40% atk -50% def
-You'll gain -10% dark rst
-Satan's darkness lost and Shingen burst potential should be enough to avoid raging overdrive completely
-The only thing you'll really miss is the affliction block

This is a boss killer team, while a team with Hades will be better on trash for guild order for instance.

For those who will get Dark Amateratsu during next year reprint, Samael will be available at that time and will synergize better with Amon than Thanatos (-45% def, -25% dark rst...) But then its not a burst build anymore ;)

edit : thinking about it i realise we wont get Satan's awakening before ~8 month. So meh... forget it i guess

[Slashley]

-45% Def and -25% Dark Resist is the same thing as -50% Def, though. Supposedly debuffs will land better with -25% Dark Resist, but that's it.

So at most the benefit is that SSR Amon + Samael hits the Def cap by themselves, but then you're basically halving the usefulness of Sniper Shot, which doesn't quite seem to be a benefit.

[Yolodesu]

-45% Def and -25% Dark Resist is the same thing as -50% Def, though. Supposedly debuffs will land better with -25% Dark Resist, but that's it.

Really? I was convinced that element resist down allowed you to go past the -50% def cap. Oh well, i guess i've learned something today.

[Unregistered]

Hello, im newbie and i did some rolls to get some good start.

I got 5 ssr on one roll. Susanoo, Gaia, Hades, Ea and Metatron. Is this worth tho or should i roll to get a good combo. If this a good start what element should i go for? Thanks.

[sanahtlig]

Hello, im newbie and i did some rolls to get some good start.

I got 5 ssr on one roll. Susanoo, Gaia, Hades, Ea and Metatron. Is this worth tho or should i roll to get a good combo. If this a good start what element should i go for? Thanks.
How long did you spend rerolling to get that? It's not really that impressive considering the sheer number of SSRs, but you could make a Dark team out of it with Gaia as sub and SSR Amon / Satan as a Miracle ticket pick. On the other hand, if you were going for a Dark team right now you might as well start with Dark Amaterasu. Better growth prospects.

[Unregistered]

How long did you spend rerolling to get that? It's not really that impressive considering the sheer number of SSRs, but you could make a Dark team out of it with Gaia as sub and SSR Amon / Satan as a Miracle ticket pick. On the other hand, if you were going for a Dark team right now you might as well start with Dark Amaterasu. Better growth prospects.

I rolled like 40-50 times around that. Got only 2 or 3 ssr and then in one roll got 5 at the same time but they seem weak for what ive searched. Its a shame :(

[Unregistered]

guys which soul should i get next (hercules,andromeda,arthur and the junk soul).i already have (d'artagna,joan,mondred,siegfried)

[Laventale]

Since the build assumes you start with Dark Amaterasu, it only costs $150! And it'll take 7 months to assemble. So only $21 a month!

That's not how Gacha works, but your maths are not wrong-ish.

[Slashley]

That's not how Gacha works, but your maths are not wrong-ish.He means without gacha. Reroll into Dark Amaterasu before first Miracle ticket expires, buy first Miracle ticket for 50 bucks, buy second and third for 100 bucks total, bam. Full Dark team, 150 bucks, or 21 bucks per month on average. No gacha required.

[Encore]

Hi everyone. I'm new here, so, nice to meet you.

I started playing the game about 3 weeks ago and I have a few questions.

First, does snatch have a depth limit? I was stalling the standart event quest to try to get 2 souls per battle, but I can't pass 9 stacks, no matter how hard I try. I'm using Granuaile with snatch as extra ability. Is it a soft cap? A hard cap? Or I'm just incredibly unlucky?

Second, how is the state of light teams? I got Sol, Diana and Artemis in my first jewels roll and couple free rolls. So, I decided to go with light ( I didn't know it was considered a weak element ). I don't have the intension of changing it, since that would require the game to give me the tools to do so, but I'd like to know what to expect from the team. I ask because I was feeling strong enough, being able to solo the standart event quest and expert raids. But it is somewhat hard to clear T1 accessory quests, and I can't clear T2.

Third, can someone briefly explain how Union events work? Aparently the next event is one of those and until now I only experienced raid events. I entered the first Union that scout me, so I could complete the daily quests to donate. The Union only has 3 members. Does it hinder my ability to "complete" the event?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks for the answers in advance.

[sanahtlig]

Second, how is the state of light teams? I got Sol, Diana and Artemis in my first jewels roll and couple free rolls.
Depends whether you're willing to spend money or not. Sol is actually really good to start with, but she's usually a starting point to build a team of a different element with.

[AznSamsung]

wtf i cant buy gem gacha draw x10 at all only a single draw at a time ... and my inventory space for both weapon and eldon is not max


i did refresh the page

[Slashley]

First, does snatch have a depth limit?9.

Also, I'm not sure does Snatch work in raids...? Since most proper raid drops are Plat drops, which might not be affected by Snatch. Dunno.
Second, how is the state of light teams? I got Sol, Diana and Artemis in my first jewels roll and couple free rolls. So, I decided to go with light ( I didn't know it was considered a weak element ).You have a few days to play the game and decide do you want to drop money on it. If yes, Miracle tickets would get you far even in Light. Second one would get you SSR Tsukuyomi who makes Light plenty good. On the first you'd pick one of the current SSR, probably Raphael. But again, the first Miracle ticket will expire in a few days. If you're not sure if you're going to keep playing or not, then it's probably better to pass on the first one.

As for Accessory quests, you need to get your basics sorted out first. That means months of hard work on events.
Third, can someone briefly explain how Union events work? Aparently the next event is one of those and until now I only experienced raid events. I entered the first Union that scout me, so I could complete the daily quests to donate. The Union only has 3 members. Does it hinder my ability to "complete" the event?With that, you might as well not be in a Union, really. At your level, your best bet is to find a strong Union and just enjoy the free loot. But... I don't know if you'll find any Unions who'd take you. Notice that you'll need to leave BEFORE the event starts, as you can join Unions during Union event but you cannot leave them.

Union events are miserable for those who are not part of a strong Union, sadly.
wtf i cant buy gem gacha draw x10 at all only a single draw at a time ... and my inventory space for both weapon and eldon is not max You've spent ~100k on Gems gacha today, come back after reset.

[Aidoru]

Hi everyone. I'm new here, so, nice to meet you.

I started playing the game about 3 weeks ago and I have a few questions.

First, does snatch have a depth limit? I was stalling the standart event quest to try to get 2 souls per battle, but I can't pass 9 stacks, no matter how hard I try. I'm using Granuaile with snatch as extra ability. Is it a soft cap? A hard cap? Or I'm just incredibly unlucky?

Second, how is the state of light teams? I got Sol, Diana and Artemis in my first jewels roll and couple free rolls. So, I decided to go with light ( I didn't know it was considered a weak element ). I don't have the intension of changing it, since that would require the game to give me the tools to do so, but I'd like to know what to expect from the team. I ask because I was feeling strong enough, being able to solo the standart event quest and expert raids. But it is somewhat hard to clear T1 accessory quests, and I can't clear T2.

Third, can someone briefly explain how Union events work? Aparently the next event is one of those and until now I only experienced raid events. I entered the first Union that scout me, so I could complete the daily quests to donate. The Union only has 3 members. Does it hinder my ability to "complete" the event?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks for the answers in advance.

Can't answer the first one for you but I wouldn't be too reliant on it.

Light teams are doing fine, especially if you have Sol. Hopefully you at least got St Nicholas and the SSR sword from the event. As for himes for your current set up, aim for SR Belebog or SSR Raphael for an atk down debuff. If you're having trouble clearing rank 2 accessory quests, that's most likely because of your lack of stats from weapon and eidolons, seeing as how you only started 3 weeks ago. As long as you keep playing, work on getting weapons and eidolons, you should improve over time.

For union events, you will most likely not be completing the event in that union. I recommend you start searching for a new union because you will not be able to leave your union once the event starts. Though it may be hard to be accepted into a strong union if you don't meet their standards, at least look for one with active and multiple players. Union events are score based, similar to raid event PP, and clear based. 4 different set of rewards, one for your PP gain, one for the entire union's PP gain, one for union's total expert clears and one for union's total ultimate clears. It's a team effort and with only 3 people, you will definitely won't be able to complete all the objectives.

[VeryVoodoo]

First, does snatch have a depth limit? I was stalling the standart event quest to try to get 2 souls per battle, but I can't pass 9 stacks, no matter how hard I try. I'm using Granuaile with snatch as extra ability. Is it a soft cap? A hard cap? Or I'm just incredibly unlucky?
Yes snatch does cap out at 9 stacks. As for the drops themselves, welcome to a game of RNG. :joy:

[AznSamsung]

opps i didnt know ....

question .... in which mission is the best to farm material to exchange in store for each world .... trying to get those seed and elixer

[Unregistered]

Light currently has a pretty solid pool available, with the addition of light Tsukuyomi. Not the best (cause water's the one that has it all), but solid.

The first goal/ideal to strive for is to try hit as close as you can to a total of -50% with your atk and def debuffs.
For atk, light can hit -50% through Sol/Raphael (or Belobog)/Sniper Shot. Or, you can hit 45% if you replace Sniper Shot with Outrage from Mordred. Sol's -20% C-frame atk debuff is <i>really, really</i> good.
For def, light hits 50% through light Tsukuyomi/Diana/Sniper Shot. Or 40% if you replace Sniper Shot with Outrage.

Thunder would be an example of an element that's currently weak in this regard; needing future kamihime for more debuffs. I think that Tyr and Raiko are literally the only current thunder kamihime with debuffs. So pure thunder currently peaks at -35% atk/def with Sniper Shot.
Fire's in a less bad state, but current pool is still behind Light. Amaterasu or Konohana Sakuya provides -20% B-frame, while Enma provides -15% B-frame. You can get -15% A-frame atk from Raguel. -10% A-frame atk from Baphomet and def from Nergal (both R's and available from gem gacha, so everybody will have these two). With either Amaterasu or Konohana Sakuya, you can hit 40% in one of atk or def (via -20% A-frame atk from Joan or -20% A-frame def from Gawain), then 30% or 35% in the other. Right now, you'd probably opt for -35% atk/-40% def.

After debuffs should come other utility.
Sol's got healing/debuff removal/buff removal. Sol's a freaking good utility piece.
Raphael offers overdrive orb removal. Nice thing to have.
Belobog's got debuff removal too. Situational, but nice to have available from an SR. A regen too for supplementary healing.
Overall, Light's doing fine here too.

I think that Light being weak would be a carryover from maybe pre-Diana. Definitely pre-light Tsukuyomi. Right now, Thunder's behind because of a dearth of things that aren't punching someone in the face. Fire's behind from still needing some more help with debuffs as well as having a bunch of SSRs that are considered weak enough to either receive buffs in half a year, receive awakenings eventually, or both.

[Encore]

Also, I'm not sure does Snatch work in raids...? Since most proper raid drops are Plat drops, which might not be affected by Snatch. Dunno.

I don't know either. But I tend to get golden chests when I use it. And not get those when I don't. Can be just coincidence though.


Light teams are doing fine, especially if you have Sol. Hopefully you at least got St Nicholas and the SSR sword from the event. As for himes for your current set up, aim for SR Belebog or SSR Raphael for an atk down debuff. If you're having trouble clearing rank 2 accessory quests, that's most likely because of your lack of stats from weapon and eidolons, seeing as how you only started 3 weeks ago. As long as you keep playing, work on getting weapons and eidolons, you should improve over time.

Thank you. I got the Sword and Nicholas. Unfortunately, I'm missing 1 copy of each.

Thanks to all who replied. I'm glad light teams aren't in as bad as a position as I originally thought. Looks like I will have to look for a new Union though.

[sanahtlig]

I think that Light being weak would be a carryover from maybe pre-Diana. Definitely pre-light Tsukuyomi. Right now, Thunder's behind because of a dearth of things that aren't punching someone in the face. Fire's behind from still needing some more help with debuffs as well as having a bunch of SSRs that are considered weak enough to either receive buffs in half a year, receive awakenings eventually, or both.
Light Tsukuyomi isn't available with the current Miracle ticket, which is the #1 issue. After Miracle ticket #2, Light will be ok. But that's only relevant if the user is interested in paying. 1 SSR, namely Sol, doesn't make a dominant-element team. From here, it's Gatcha that would determine the team's fate, not any of us.

[Unregistered]

Oh, yea, it's about the gacha deciding what you have in the end. But when it comes to talking about 'this element is weak/strong', I'm assuming it's in the context of simply what's currently available. Otherwise I don't know how the question/topic makes any sense.

[sanahtlig]

Oh, yea, it's about the gacha deciding what you have in the end. But when it comes to talking about 'this element is weak/strong', I'm assuming it's in the context of simply what's currently available. Otherwise I don't know how the question/topic makes any sense.
It's a new user. They don't necessarily understand the game well enough to ask the right questions. A paying user interested in a Miracle ticket needs to decide on an element. A free user has to play with the cards they're dealt, and therefore the question of element is less relevant: there's no decision point to pause at. In this case, the user started with Sol, so the question of element is even less relevant than usual. We could advise the user to reroll for something else, but that's also besides the point, as Sol is pretty good regardless of whether Light is strong or not.

[Encore]

Oh, yea, it's about the gacha deciding what you have in the end. But when it comes to talking about 'this element is weak/strong', I'm assuming it's in the context of simply what's currently available. Otherwise I don't know how the question/topic makes any sense.


It's a new user. They don't necessarily understand the game well enough to ask the right questions. A paying user interested in a Miracle ticket needs to decide on an element. A free user has to play with the cards they're dealt, and therefore the question of element is less relevant: there's no decision point to pause at. In this case, the user started with Sol, so the question of element is even less relevant than usual. We could advise the user to reroll for something else, but that's also besides the point, as Sol is pretty good regardless of whether Light is strong or not.

Hopefully, I didn't create any type of bad discussion. It wasn't my intention at all. I didn't play enough to know if I want to invest money on the game. And as such, I don't have much choice. The only non rare, non light kamihime I have are Tsukuyome and Astraea. So, it is not like I can make a team of other element. I was asking more in regards of the potential of the element in general.

I liked the answer of the unregistered user a lot, because it was clear, and showed me paths I could take to make the team better in case I ever decide to invest into the game or if I get lucky.

I'm glad you thought about my position of a new player, though. Indeed, I don't have a deep knowledge of the game and might ask dumb questions or questions that won't net me the answers I'm looking for.

[sanahtlig]

Sol, Diana, Artemis, and an arbitrary Light SR likely won't be enough to get you through the hardest content in the game (currently Accessory Quest Rank 4, Light in your case). But by the time you get to that point, you'll likely have another SSR. The next SSR you get from Gatcha is going to be a fork in the road for you: whether to stick with Light or to work on a different element with Sol as sub and make it even better than your Light team. Likewise, you'd have to think for a while about how to spend a Miracle ticket.

[Encore]

Sol, Diana, Artemis, and an arbitrary Light SR likely won't be enough to get you through the hardest content in the game (currently Accessory Quest Rank 4, Light in your case). But by the time you get to that point, you'll likely have another SSR. The next SSR you get from Gatcha is going to be a fork in the road for you: whether to stick with Light or to work on a different element with Sol as sub and make it even better than your Light team. Likewise, you'd have to think for a while about how to spend a Miracle ticket.

That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

[Unregistered]

how do the crucible of combat events work? I've never been online during one, so I have no idea what to do or how to obtain units.

[Slashley]

how do the crucible of combat events work? I've never been online during one, so I have no idea what to do or how to obtain units.Union events are miserable if you're not in a good Union.

If you're in a good Union, everyone works together to spend AP on farming Grails from Lilims (I'd say only farm Standard, it's roughly the same amount of Grails per AP for a fraction of the effort). This gets every 400 points to spend daily on buffs - usually double damage and double HP plus two other stats.

BP is spent to farm the Demons, who start off very weak, but level up as they get killed. Without Grail buffs, you won't get far. Without getting far, each Demon will yield so little PP that you won't get proper rewards.

Since you haven't been online during one, you're either a relatively inactive player or a new player. Either way, your chances of being in a good Union is slim. That means your experience will be... far from a pleasant one.

[drakkelizer]

Hi guys. Just realized about this tweet from nutaku:


Reward Exchange of the raid Fortress of Coming Light will be available in the event page until the 20:00 Jan.13th [PST].
Don't forget to drawn your gacha and receive your rewards!

But the event page is gone...

[Sfay]

Hi guys. Just realized about this tweet from nutaku:



But the event page is gone...

On "My page", click on the Event Information banner at the bottom then on the Fortress banner

[Unregistered]

I did some thinking after helping a user decide what to do with his Black Amaterasu and Gaia reroll, and realized that Dark Amaterasu entirely changes the Dark build strategy. Dark Amon / Satan are no longer required in a team with Dark Amaterasu. Instead, such players should aim for a Burst build with Shingen. They'll run Shingen + Ambush, Osiris (heals and synergy with Shingen), Hades, Thanatos (DEF -40% -> -50%), and Dark Amaterasu. That covers all core debuffs (including overdrive extension), gets DEF to -50%, and enables double damage with Bursts, allowing Dark teams to Burst right through Rage phases. This build is not possible without Dark Amaterasu, as it would require sacrificing either overdrive extension or Sniper Shot.

I added this to my guide as a third build for Miracle tickets, but I'm not sure if it's worth elaborating on since Dark Amaterasu is limited and therefore it'll just be a distraction to most players.


Who in the world is Shingen, pls.

[sanahtlig]

Who in the world is Shingen, pls.
Shingen is the next Heroic Soul that will be released, probably within the next 1-2 months.

[Unregistered]

Shingen is the next Heroic Soul that will be released, probably within the next 1-2 months.

It's gonna be holy soul points? isnt it?

[Unregistered]

Yes it will cost holy soul points; Shingen's the final soul in the Yukimura-Masamune series.

It seems like that at some point, the orichalcum exchange on DMM got updated. In addition to the raid SSRs, there's now one new SSR for each element. 1 ori for 1 copy, as opposed to 2 ori for 1 copy of a raid SSR. They do seem to have worse stats than other SSRs (some having atk as low as SRs). But they do come with two skills. The one for light as well as the one for water seems interesting. For starters, the light one's a glaive instead of a type that light already has a bunch of (water's Yet Another Hammer, boring). But more interestingly, their second skill is an Ascension type. The light glaive has it at medium and the water hammer has it at large, apparently.

Ascension is one of the newer weapon skills; it's basically +healing (raises healing amount and healing cap of skills by the respective element). Ascension (small) raises by (4 + skill_lvl)%. Medium is 7 instead of 4. Ascension effects stack on top of each other additively. Also, apparently there is a cap on +healing of +200%. Either that was discovered through union events (most likely), or someone actually put together enough weapons with ascension of the same element (I'm not even sure if that's technically possible yet!).

Ascension effects stick out to me, as they're not all that common. Especially natively (instead of being tacked onto an older SSR through final limit break). And moreso, through guaranteed methods (ie not through a gacha).

[sanahtlig]

Healing doesn't scale at all right now, so the Ascension skill must be the way of addressing that. Endurance builds will get a boost from this, but it's really far out. Worth noting for Endurance builds though.

[bigblackcock]

so..i got SSR wind accessory and 2 out of the 3 skills is ability damage up.
i've thought to give it to oberon as she have 3 abilities that deals damage, but is it a good idea to give it to SR kami?
my SSR ones have only 1 ability that deal damage each (gaia, cu chulainn and odin) so oberon sounds better idea, but still not sure about it..