Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

[QXZ]

anyone find the game extremely laggy lately? any guesses why?

[LotsofLux]

anyone find the game extremely laggy lately? any guesses why?

Try clearing your cache? Though to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the game has shit programming

[Slashley]

-- Also, im having trouble clearing event content --Struggling to clear Advents is normal as a new player. It's a tough life when you're still weak. Raid events are far more newbie friendly since others can kill stuff for you.

Also, yes, you should use SR Cybele. You should pretty much never run more than one off-element Hime.
--
On a side note, what is the actual titania drop rate on the titania boosted gatcha? (I'm going for wind burst build) Or should I wait for next miracle ticket?About 1% per 10-roll, so you have a coin-flip chance at around ~1300 dollars and 90% chance at ~4400 dollars.

Non-miracle ticket Gachas are basically scams, as you can see.

[Unregistered]

Will we get the same amount of orbs when we sell for example a MLB SR eidolon or 5 SR without LB's in the eidolon shop?

[sanahtlig]

From my guide:

Event eidolons (Raids)
Raid event eidolons were made available in the Eidolon Orb shop in August 2017 (DMM version). These orbs can be obtained from selling eidolons: higher rarity and Gatcha eidolons fetch more orbs, and the reward scales 1:1 with number of limit breaks. Kaiser Dragons are also available in the eidolon orb shop (only 1 copy available per element), and they’ve been buffed so that their stats are comparable to LV100 event eidolons at LV40, and their active skill provides a +30% elemental attack boost and +30% elemental resistance (against their strong element). This makes them optimal Burst buffers, and they also provide the strongest defensive summon effect in the game.

[Sora]

From my guide:

How many Orb's do we get for Gatcha SSR, SR, Event SSR and Disaster SR Eidolon's?
How many orbs do we need for Kaiser Dragon?
So that basically means that Kaiser Dragon from the shop will have 1600-2200 Attack with level 40?

[Asti]

How many orbs do we need for Kaiser Dragon?


10,000 each

[Unregistered]

2 for R
30 for SR (all SR)
150 for event SSR
750 for gacha SSR

[Sora]

2 for R
30 for SR (all SR)
150 for event SSR
750 for gacha SSR

Thank you.


10,000 each

Well, that will take some time for me to get one^^

[Unregistered]

2 for R
30 for SR (all SR)
150 for event SSR
750 for gacha SSR

How much will it take to get an MLB Event Eidolon like Apocalypse?
In orbs ofcourse.

[Kimoi]

How much will it take to get an MLB Event Eidolon like Apocalypse?
In orbs ofcourse.
You can only get raid eidos from the shop, so no Apoc. And even then, it seems the shop doesn't get updated very often after being released.

Anyway, raid eidos cost 600 orbs per copy. 5 copies for MLB = 3k orbs.

[Unregistered]

600 per copy of a raid eidolon (thus 3k in total to go from nothing to max). No advent or union event eidolons (so for example, Apocalypse specifically won't be in this shop).

[Viriilink]

When are we getting UI update? I'm interested in the ability to specify rarity/element for view.

[Unregistered]

Wow, so the March 19 balance update on DMM changed how (awakened) Tyr functions a lot.

So, old Tyr's awakening (ie what we're stuck with for another year presumably):
Raised the A-frame def debuff from 10% to 15% and added a rage gauge reduction component (~10-15%)
Raised the self-only character atk buff from 35% to 50%
Added a +35 burst gauge component to Finish Impact

New Tyr's awakening (so far away...):
Added a guaranteed triple attack buff as a side effect of the improved burst attack (no duration listed; 1 turn/1 use only is my assumption?)
Raised the A-frame def debuff from 10% to 15% (same as before) and can now add a new status ailment, 'Lock On' (90 second duration). (Rage gauge reduction component removed!)
Changes the 2nd skill from being a character atk buff to a +thunder & +damage cap buff (unknown if the amount is the same as before or not)
Added a +35 burst gauge component to Finish Impact (same as before), but the meat of it has changed. Finish Impact as we know it is maximal damage against stunned enemies. The new Finish Impact+ is increased attack damage against enemy with 'Lock On'. Both the 'maximal' and '1 time only' clauses have been dropped. Still a 1 turn duration, so it really just means that you can't accidentally consume the buff by casting Stun Shocker. Aside from that, I'm assuming for the time being the damage buff amount is still the same. I'll have to keep my eye on the wiki on this though. If the amount remains the same but can be used against raging, that actually makes it stronger than Freyr's (3x burst damage versus 2.5x).

Note that the Finish Impact change kicks in at lv 45, while you don't actually gain the ability to inflict 'Lock On' until Stun Shocker improves at lv 65. Thus, awakened Tyr from lv 45 to 64 effectively has no giant damage buff.

[Kitty]

https://img00.deviantart.net/411d/i/2018/082/c/2/adult_cthulhu_by_zosanhead-dc6qftl.png

who like me drawin

[LotsofLux]

who like me drawin

It's nice, but the hands need a little touch-up imho. They look a little undefined and floppy(?), but that just might be me.

[Slashley]

--
who like me drawinNot enough tentacles.

[QXZ]

anyone else find the game extremely slow lately? or is it just me?

[Laventale]

anyone else find the game extremely slow lately? or is it just me?

Did you try to update your browser?

[QXZ]

Did you try to update your browser?

i have Chrome Beta and it is indeed the latest version.

[Laventale]

i have Chrome Beta and it is indeed the latest version.

The last version is 65 as far as I'm aware.

[QXZ]

ok i figured it out. chrome beta is too advanced for its own good.... has to be back to regular chrome

[lolix]

btw...am i the only one with issues with the entire nutaku website ?

[Unregistered]

No, I can't use Nutaku at all, it it says 502 bad gateway after I click any game.
Odd, saturday, I was meant to level some things today...
Sadness

[Laventale]

btw...am i the only one with issues with the entire nutaku website ?

http://puu.sh/zOp6Q/cc92f5cde8.png

You're not the only one.

[BlazeAlter]

weird, my friend and I can't access it either.
and it was just working fine earlier... i wonder what happened


edit:
(i do still have my kamihime page that i opened a few hours earlier though before this happened lol and i can still play, but if i refreshed the page i would probably get that 502 bad gateway or something)

[lolix]

still doesn#t work for me. Kinda annoying

[Delete]

Yeah. Wake up on the morning (Europe time) to find that problem is pretty annoying. All those APs from sleeping hours waiting to be used...:sad:

[Sora]

Yeah. Wake up on the morning (Europe time) to find that problem is pretty annoying. All those APs from sleeping hours waiting to be used...:sad:

haha, me too :joy:

[Slashley]

Such is the life of EU players...

[lolix]

this is seriously annoying. I think it's been at least 5 hours or so since i've started having issues

[Slashley]

this is seriously annoying. I think it's been at least 5 hours or so since i've started having issuesThe earliest posts that I see about it are from four hours ago.

But yes. If such an issue has been up for four hours, it probably means that Nutaku is poor indie company who can't afford to keep personnel over the weekend. See you on Monday!

[Delete]

The earliest posts that I see about it are from four hours ago.

But yes. If such an issue has been up for four hours, it probably means that Nutaku is poor indie company who can't afford to keep personnel over the weekend. See you on Monday!

(Delete puts on Darth Vader Helmet)....
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[bigblackcock]

not sure when it started, i was trying to find shamash in alt acc so i can record her encounter for my channel, then after 3 acc i couldn't log in at all.
and it's still doesn't work, i wonder how long it'll take them to fix it and how much jewels we may see from it XD

[lolix]

if their game doesn't work for 5-6 hours in a frikin weekend (when most people have the msot time to play) , they are doing something seriously wrong.

We should get some compensation for this shit

[Slashley]

not sure when it started, i was trying to find shamash in alt acc so i can record her encounter for my channel, then after 3 acc i couldn't log in at all.
and it's still doesn't work, i wonder how long it'll take them to fix it and how much jewels we may see from it XDThe last time the servers were broken and not the game, there wasn't any compensation in any game.

At all.

[QXZ]

The last time the servers were broken and not the game, there wasn't any compensation in any game.

At all.

=( not good.

we really should get 300+ jewels for this.

[artista]

"Nutaku Games are encountering some login issues and will have them resolved as soon as possible.Thank you for your patience.

Kamihime Project Devs"

That was 2 hours ago tho, I really expect to get some jewels as compensation.

[blubbergott]

Wouldn't count on it. It's not the developers fault after all. If Nutakus authentication service is down, they can't do anything about it.

[artista]

Wouldn't count on it. It's not the developers fault after all. If Nutakus authentication service is down, they can't do anything about it.

Does it need to be the developers fault to compensate players who cant use their services for 8 hours or whatever? Doesnt make sense to me but you are probably right and they wont give shit :D

[ImoutoMaster]

ffs, I woke up at 7:30am today (currently 14:08pm) and it didn't work then, what happened that can't be fixed in that time, did the building with the servers burn down or something?
they should either extend the event or give out some hefty compensation bc you have to play constantly if you want any chance at the good stuff :angry:

[Hypnos]

True, some kind of compensation would be nice if they even care a bit about their player base. But tbh they've proven that they dont a few times so wouldn't expect anything.


bc you have to play constantly if you want any chance at the good stuff :angry:

Well this is not really true since I get all good stuff while slacking my ass off :rofl:

[Delete]

I'm inside ¡¡¡

[BlazeAlter]

I somehow feel lucky because i can still play kamihime right now, thanks to the kamihime tab that i kept open for hours before this issue happened lol

(im sure im not the only player who can still play lol, since one of my friends in my list was active an hour ago)

edit: seems like servers are okay now, since my friend and other union members just logged in

[Unregistered]

it's back right now (for me tho)

[Unregistered]

Log in!! Log in!!

[BlazeAlter]

the browser one is fine now, but the one for mobile is still broken though (i tried logging in for my sub on phone, just failed lol)

[Slashley]

For those who get "nutaku is under maintenance" page, do this:
On your computer, open Chrome.
At the top right, click More Settings.
At the bottom, click Advanced.
Under "Privacy and security," click Content settings.
Click Cookies.
Under "All cookies and site data," search for nutaku.
To the right of the site, click "Remove all shown"

Why the fuck did they set it so that your cookies make them redirect you to the maintenance page? I have no idea. But there you go.

[BlazeAlter]

For those who get "nutaku is under maintenance" page, do this:
On your computer, open Chrome.
At the top right, click More Settings.
At the bottom, click Advanced.
Under "Privacy and security," click Content settings.
Click Cookies.
Under "All cookies and site data," search for nutaku.
To the right of the site, click "Remove all shown"

Why the fuck did they set it so that your cookies make them redirect you to the maintenance page? I have no idea. But there you go.

thank you for this. it actually fixed my problems

[Sora]

Farming fangs = it sucks... When I need them they don't drop and if I don't need them... they drop.
Well, I love it :cry::joy:

[BlazeAlter]

Farming fangs = it sucks... When I need them they don't drop and if I don't need them... they drop.
Well, I love it :cry::joy:

once, i wasted 10 half elixirs and only got 1 fang from it

farming fangs = pain

[Cobblemaniac]

once, i wasted 10 half elixirs and only got 1 fang from it

farming fangs = pain

They'll eventually set up a shop trade for fangs... although I dunno when exactly.

[BlazeAlter]

They'll eventually set up a shop trade for fangs... although I dunno when exactly.

yeah ive seen that too.
if i remember correctly, they were also gonna add ultimate daily sp quests someday right? hopefully that would make farming the fangs a little easier for everyone

[Asti]

Fangs will also appear in the Gem Gacha later, of course you only have 1/6 Chanche to get the one, you need.

[VeryVoodoo]

Fangs will also appear in the Gem Gacha later

So fangs and I've heard HEs too get added into the gem gacha right? Anything else that gets added in besides those two things? Also which event did the gemcha changes take place in? Or was it a gradual sort of thing?

[Asti]

So fangs and I've heard HEs too get added into the gem gacha right? Anything else that gets added in besides those two things? Also which event did the gemcha changes take place in? Or was it a gradual sort of thing?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/263690964399423489/421572338900008980/Unnamed.jpg

[Kimoi]

And, presumably, an extra batch of R himes.
It would be nice if we were to get this update next event.

[Cobblemaniac]

Currently with enough soul points to unlock another legendary soul, anyone mind giving me recommendations?

My account content so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KuWSqO2SIKXUkmQkEwyKcLL7qYoz98ejzxtv4trqgbY/edit?usp=sharing

[Unregistered]

Joan is your only priority. Achilles and Hercules after if you plan to use her weapon, which isnt even released yet let alone the element you'll probably want. Anyone after, all thats left are not important.

Shingen priority for the other soul currency.

[Cobblemaniac]

Joan is your only priority. Achilles and Hercules after if you plan to use her weapon, which isnt even released yet let alone the element you'll probably want. Anyone after, all thats left are not important.

Shingen priority for the other soul currency.

Was debating between Joan and Andromeda actually. Curious, why not Andromeda? If because of my water team's lack of an A frame atk break, I plan to cover that by pulling Cthulhu with the upcoming miracle.

[Slashley]

Was debating between Joan and Andromeda actually. Curious, why not Andromeda? If because of my water team's lack of an A frame atk break, I plan to cover that by pulling Cthulhu with the upcoming miracle.Andromeda is bad.

Or well, more like, Andromeda is Cass with slightly more heals and no Dispel. The more heals simply is NOT worth the SP until you have Gawain, Cass, Mordred, Joan/Dartagnan, preferably in that order. After that, feel free to grab extra heals from Andromeda if you want, but don't be afraid to use Cass over her.

Also, the res sucks ass. It only gives a little bit of HP so the Hime who died will basically just die again when they come back into the fight (they go to the last slot in the back row), not to mention that their skills don't even come off cooldown until they're back the front row.

[Cobblemaniac]

Andromeda is bad.

Or well, more like, Andromeda is Cass with slightly more heals and no Dispel. The more heals simply is NOT worth the SP until you have Gawain, Cass, Mordred, Joan/Dartagnan, preferably in that order. After that, feel free to grab extra heals from Andromeda if you want, but don't be afraid to use Cass over her.

Also, the res sucks ass. It only gives a little bit of HP so the Hime who died will basically just die again when they come back into the fight (they go to the last slot in the back row), not to mention that their skills don't even come off cooldown until they're back the front row.

I see... Joan it is then. Another question, how well does Hercules perform in the meta? She's one soul I don't ever see get mentioned in discussions ever.

[Slashley]

Hercules has her uses, but most of it comes from her Relic weapon. She gains +30 Burst from one of her skills, which allows her to replace Shingen for Provisional Forest builds if you want.

The main advantages are that Hercules' first skill is a pretty strong nuke skill, and that her Relic weapon causes up to 25% Def Down on Burst (at LMB). Meanwhile, Shingen's Relic weapon gives her +30 Burst from Bursting (at LMB), which is very difficult to make use out of except in Wind builds.

[nazrin992]

Herc is pretty meta in the future. When she eventually gets her fix.

Her first skill will no longer have her buffs removes.

Her 2nd and 3rd skill will also lasts for 5 turns instead of 3.

[Delete]

Herc is pretty meta in the future. When she eventually gets her fix.

Her first skill will no longer have her buffs removes.

Her 2nd and 3rd skill will also lasts for 5 turns instead of 3.

This will be at the same time that the fix for Metatron? When (in theory) will that be? What characters are affected?

[Unregistered]

Hercules got that round of buffs on May 11 (Sphinx/Vritra reprint). I say that round, as technically that's the 2nd set of buffs for Hercules; we have the version with the 1st set of buffs.

Metatron got buffed on July 20 (Ixion 2nd reprint)

[QXZ]

isnt metatron and hercule still garbage after this round of buff?

[AznSamsung]

metatron is getting awakening in dmm ether this month or next

[QXZ]

translation: shes still crap... until May 2019 Nutaku update

[bigblackcock]

i have a question:
is buff have some kind of cap or as long as you have the buffers you can just buff as much as you can?
for example, if 1 have hastur/arthuer (20% frame A), awakened titania (60%frame B for 1 ally) and azazel (40% self attack buff)
will azazel have 120% attack buff or less because some kind of cap?

[Cobblemaniac]

i have a question:
is buff have some kind of cap or as long as you have the buffers you can just buff as much as you can?
for example, if 1 have hastur/arthuer (20% frame A), awakened titania (60%frame B for 1 ally) and azazel (40% self attack buff)
will azazel have 120% attack buff or less because some kind of cap?

As far as I know the only caps that exist so far are:
1. debuff caps
2. burst caps
3. skill damage caps

Buff caps don't exist as far as I know, you're probably only limited by how many frames of buffs there can be and the turn expiry rates on the stackable buffs.

[Slashley]

As far as I know the only caps that exist so far are:
1. debuff caps
2. burst caps
3. skill damage caps

Buff caps don't exist as far as I know, you're probably only limited by how many frames of buffs there can be and the turn expiry rates on the stackable buffs.There's also the normal attack cap!
... but it's ridiculously high, 350k per attack (so 1050k on a triple attack). This is a number that is hard to reach even for the most dedicated of whales.
Basically only possible to reach with the Stun damage+ skills, having crazy high base attack and stacking attack/elemental buffs like crazy.
i have a question:
is buff have some kind of cap or as long as you have the buffers you can just buff as much as you can?
for example, if 1 have hastur/arthuer (20% frame A), awakened titania (60%frame B for 1 ally) and azazel (40% self attack buff)
will azazel have 120% attack buff or less because some kind of cap?As far as I know, there's no cap.
However, notice that atk buffs are literally Assault. So if you have 120% Assault already and give Azazel 120% buff, Azazel will have 240% Assault. Or 340% in Union content.

Numbers like that do wonders if you can put some additional modifiers into the mix, like Berserk.

[nazrin992]

isnt metatron and hercule still garbage after this round of buff?

Wouldn't know about Metatron but Herc is a serious dmg dealer that is better than Arthur in some cases.

[Unregistered]

Is there a reason to get soul points once you've gotten all the souls? I can't find information on new souls. Thanks.

[Cobblemaniac]

Is there a reason to get soul points once you've gotten all the souls? I can't find information on new souls. Thanks.

So far on the DMM server there's literally no new souls being released, so don't count on it for another year.

[Void]

Are we capped to purchase the story eidolons in the shop 4 times only? I just bought the 4th one for Vine's 3rd limit break but she disappeared in the shop now. :cry:

[Cobblemaniac]

Are we capped to purchase the story eidolons in the shop 4 times only? I just bought the 4th one for Vine's 3rd limit break but she disappeared in the shop now. :cry:

Hmm... looks like the glitch is back

[Slashley]

Are we capped to purchase the story eidolons in the shop 4 times only? I just bought the 4th one for Vine's 3rd limit break but she disappeared in the shop now. :cry:Shit.

That wasn't the case before, we were able to LMB Vine just fine...
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[Aidoru]

Does anyone by any chance have a compiled list of updates/changes/buffs/etc to expect in the future?

[Yolodesu]

Does anyone by any chance have a compiled list of updates/changes/buffs/etc to expect in the future?

Until someone gives you something better, here is a link to jp wiki. Scroll down for details

http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%86%E3%83%8A%E3% 83%B3%E3%82%B9%E5%B1%A5%E6%AD%B4

[Cobblemaniac]

Does anyone by any chance have a compiled list of updates/changes/buffs/etc to expect in the future?


Until someone gives you something better, here is a link to jp wiki. Scroll down for details

http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%86%E3%83%8A%E3% 83%B3%E3%82%B9%E5%B1%A5%E6%AD%B4

That, or Sana's (or technically Slashley's) encyclopedia. Either is the best you'll get for future updates, although the event encyclopedia is probably way more convenient to look at than Google's lmao translation systems.

[Slashley]

It is missing a lot, though. I add stuff into it whenever I find reliable dates on something happening, but going through all the comprehensive patch notes for DMM Kamihime is just too much.

[Unregistered]

Quick question: do my friends preffer my Girimehkala or my Takemikazuchi?

[blubbergott]

That really depends on the friends, but with ele advantage and assuming they have a char atk eidolon, break point is about 100% assault (assuming both LB0). If they have an elemental eidolon, then the break-even point is much higher, if they don't have ele advantage, a bit lower. So if you're high rank, Takemikazuchi might be worth considering, otherwise I'd stick to Girimehkala.

[Unregistered]

Takemikazuchi
Summon effect is far more useful in typical situations
Passive is also usually better except for when one has low assault. And in the cases when one wants a +assault eidolon, one prefers a 40% assault/20% HP eidolon. The +20% to burst streak passive doesn't do much*

*It's not an increase to burst damage, it's specifically an increase to burst streak damage.
Burst streak damage is a percentage of the sum of burst attack damage dealt that turn, if more than 1 character bursted.
If it is a full burst, burst streak is 50% of that damage.
+20% to burst streak would turn that 50% to (50%*1.2) = 60%, ie an increase of 10% of the sum of burst damage.

For a baseline example, let's say that everyone involved is a 3* SR, including the soul wielding a 3* SR weapon. Each person's burst is then basically 3.5 times their regular attack damage plus 2000. To keep it simple, let's assume that everybody's atk is roughly the same. So a full burst would be 5 of such burst attacks. That's 17.5 times regular attack damage plus 10k. 10% of that would be 1.75 regular attacks plus 1k.

An upper end example would be everyone involved being a 3* SSR, with the soul wielding a 3* SSR weapon (but no awakened kamihime in this instance). For the soul, the burst attack's 4.5x + 2500. For the kamihime, it's 5x + 2500 each. Full burst adds up to 24.5x regular attack damage plus 12.5k. 10% of that would be 2.45x regular attacks plus 1,250.

[Unregistered]

Also, since it's thunder, I'm assuming that the vast majority of people will be running a +assault eidolon of some sort, as we have yet to get a +thunder event eidolon. So without knowing specifics, +thunder gacha eidolon should be in higher demand overall at this time.

[Unregistered]

Well, not counting Phoenix of course. But the number of people running Phoenix as opposed to swapping over to some other light eidolon has gone down a lot after Sphinx/St. Nicholas and will probably continue to go down after Barong.

[Slashley]

Also, since it's thunder, I'm assuming that the vast majority of people will be running a +assault eidolon of some sort, as we have yet to get a +thunder event eidolon. So without knowing specifics, +thunder gacha eidolon should be in higher demand overall at this time.Phoenix exists.

With her glorious 1k base attack.

[Aidoru]

Takemikazuchi has a better effect but I feel many people still don't know the difference between character element atk and element atk. Wind and Dark already have Icarus and Jack o Lantern, making it unlikely to look for her using those teams, so unless you have a decently high break Take, people will generally just grab whatever looks like it has higher value, which would be Girim with 50% at no break, more than any thunder event eidolon at full break.

[Unregistered]

A sad state of affairs to be certain, I guess I'll use Giri until I get a better one for Thunder on display and change to Take for myself :p

[blubbergott]

Guys, don't underestimate how much of a difference 20% make. To leave a few examples (adding ~130% stamp for a decent late game grid comparison, break even point for Takemikazuchi to surpass Girimehkala):

Ele advantage:
1) with 40/20 char atk eidolon: break point: 100% assault, at 130%: 1.8% damage difference
2) with 40% ele atk eidolon (phoenix, thunderbird): break point: 210% assault, at 130%: -4.5% difference
3) Kirin .. like any Kirin would ever use Take

No ele advantage (why would you ever play thunder vs. neutral element unless you got Kirin):
4) with 40/20 char atk eidolon: break point: 30% assault, at 130%: 9.7% damage difference
5) with 40% ele atk eidolon (phoenix, thunderbird): break point: 135% assault, at 130%: -0.3% difference
6) Kirin: break point once again above 230% assault

In the end, the most common situation for high ranked people with good thunder grids would probably be 1) in which case, Take would be slightly better, followed by 2) in which case Giri would be significantly better. The better active is a bit of a plus for Take, but unless the majority of your friendlist is r90+, Giri is the better choice in my opinion. She might be slightly worse for some, but a lot better for others and if you and your friends are still newer, then she's pretty much always quite a lot better.

But if you consider the break points above, you should be able to form your own opinion on what fits best for you currently. :)

[Unregistered]

There's another wrinkle: Takemikazuchi cuts down the worst case scenario of full bursting every 10th turn to every 9th turn. So your long term DPS estimates aren't as simple as usual.

And in the event +assault is preferred, Sandalphon/Yggdrasil is also an option. It gets a bit complicated since the 10% edge in character atk that a 0* Girimehkala has over them is partially negated by the difference in raw atk then multiplied by 1.1. Then it's a question of the utlity of +20% HP, which in itself varies in impact since it stacks additively with defender effects.

And speaking of the general population being not necessarily mechanically savvy, I think that the one person with Kirin on my list switched to Meng Huo today o.o

[sanahtlig]

And speaking of the general population being not necessarily mechanically savvy, I think that the one person with Kirin on my list switched to Meng Huo today o.o
More damage is not always better. When you want to auto something, sometimes less is more. It's all about getting the transitions right so abilities go off at the right time.

[artista]

More damage is not always better. When you want to auto something, sometimes less is more. It's all about getting the transitions right so abilities go off at the right time.

Hmm... Do you believe that yourself? Replacing Kirin with Meng Huo can be better? In what planet? XD

[Kimoi]

More damage is not always better. When you want to auto something, sometimes less is more. It's all about getting the transitions right so abilities go off at the right time.
If I had a Kirin, I'd probably be able to just green auto Rahab.

[Aidoru]

I've also suffered from having a team be to strong making certain content more annoying to deal with on auto. Twice this event I've lost ultimate Rahab on auto ability. This was because my subs are random himes I'm leveling but mostly because no burst build up due to killing all trash with skills. So to fix it, I just regular auto attack the entire thing and it works. I'll get hit by 1 raging overdrive but that pushes my team for a full burst which pretty much kills her after. Hasn't failed me yet.

[sanahtlig]

Hmm... Do you believe that yourself? Replacing Kirin with Meng Huo can be better? In what planet? XD
I haven't optimized for this event, but in the past I had to replace Shiva with an SR because she was killing the trash too fast. I've also run double HP/character attack eidolons so that my auto team would survive Raging Overdrives. Given these experiences, it'd be hasty for me to conclude that someone is stupid/ignorant just because they're not using the eidolon I'd prefer.

[Unregistered]

I haven't optimized for this event, but in the past I had to replace Shiva with an SR because she was killing the trash too fast. I've also run double HP/character attack eidolons so that my auto team would survive Raging Overdrives. Given these experiences, it'd be hasty for me to conclude that someone is stupid/ignorant just because they're not using the eidolon I'd prefer.

You just answered yourself tho, you replaced shiva for an SR, minimal dps change in the great scheme of things, you have used double 40% char 20% hp, thats still nowhere near losing 100% for literally 0 (Mii), you can make some tweaks here and there so your hp vs damage is in a comfy place, but your examples arent comparable to swapping 100% for 0%.

[sanahtlig]

You just answered yourself tho, you replaced shiva for an SR, minimal dps change in the great scheme of things, you have used double 40% char 20% hp, thats still nowhere near losing 100% for literally 0 (Mii), you can make some tweaks here and there so your hp vs damage is in a comfy place, but your examples arent comparable to swapping 100% for 0%.
To prove the point, I wasted 10min of my life to show that running without damage eidolons can be useful. (It'll take a while to upload and be viewable)

https://youtu.be/UFnH8SzquII

That's my Ragnarok team for both events. On Rahab Ultimate without damage eidolons, it wins on auto-battle. With 2x +45% elemental attack eidolons, it loses (video not shown).

[Unregistered]

Setting aside actually using Meng Huo over Kirin for yourself or not, that it's showing up on friends lists is the interesting bit here.
Either one is savvy enough to know how to choose which eidolon would show up for a given element, and thus this is a conscious decision. Which leads to the question of why would you want to show Meng Huo over Kirin.
Or, one doesn't know how.

(also, said friend switched over to Medusa farming apparently, as the team I can see him using is light/St. Nick. So uh, the Meng Huo isn't being actively used?)

[Unregistered]

Hey I wanted to buy 5000 Nutaku Gold for the Miracle Ticket, I have over 55$ in my master card and it declines the payment...

Someone knows what to do ir any workaround ?

[sanahtlig]

Call credit card services.

[AznSamsung]

Make sure is us dollar ... they charge converting fee

[bigblackcock]

i know it's a little late, but here the encounter of last event characters
Icarus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Ljo4_7wSs
Psyche:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gUAqrBCZW4
Vulcan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ha03RGPDk
Hephaestus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv8QxlXb1Rk
Mars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=801pepbaElw

[quentamanas]

I'm looking at all the himes I gained recently, most from the 1 yr anniversary. I've got 13 SRs that aren't MBL, but I've got 18 SR grails and not quite sure which to use them on. Here's what I've got:

Water: Parvati
Wind: Hermes, Cronus, Maeve, Freja, Krampus, Ithaqua
Lightning: Nemesis, Psyche
Dark: Tsukuyomi, Pharol, Lu Bu [Ren], Meretseger

Which one[s] are most beneficial to MBL?

[bigblackcock]

and now, the new characters from this event:
Awakened titania:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqu7SnEadrk&
Kamadeva:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpv98v1XDeo
Durga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MabmoinBtaw
Shamash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4mTGykHK0w

[bmj420420]

So I've realized I must have picked up an SSR weapon drop from Rahab sometime before having enough for the final limit break, what should I use my materials on? I'm 5 gold mats away from getting the final one from the store but I don't think I need it. Books may not be super helpful, as I only need 3 SSR books and all of my SSR kamihime are fully limit broken, and I all of my main element (wind) SR kamihime are already MLB, and I'm not desperate for Soul P as I just got D'Art.

[KitsuneHime]

This is a pretty basic question but I'm just so frustrated.

How do I get a lot of Holy Star of Lights in a short span of time? Farming it on the SP daily quests isn't working because they rarely drop, and exchanging a star with 15 Holy Crystal of Lights drains my Holy Crystal which I also need for LBing some KHs... I'm so frustrated at the amount of SR KHs I have that are one star away from MLB.

[Slashley]

How do I get a lot of Holy Star of Lights in a short span--T4 Crystal? They're a rare drop from the daily 25AP quest, so your best bet is from there. T3 is far more common, but T4 can drop.

If you're active during Union events, they'll absolutely FLOOD YOU in T3 Crystals which you can swap to T4s.

[KitsuneHime]

T4 Crystal? They're a rare drop from the daily 25AP quest, so your best bet is from there. T3 is far more common, but T4 can drop.

If you're active during Union events, they'll absolutely FLOOD YOU in T3 Crystals which you can swap to T4s.

Yeah, I've just been praying that the gods of luck shower me with the drops. I've been active in union events but for some reason it's still not enough, with the amount of SR Kamihimes I need to MLB. I've got like a whole page of KH to MLB...

BTW, yes, I do MLB every single one of my Kamihime. Priority goes to my main team of course, but, I'm the type of player who likes to do everything completely.

I guess I'll just continue to do daily quests then and hope for the best. :))

[Unregistered]

I'm looking at all the himes I gained recently, most from the 1 yr anniversary. I've got 13 SRs that aren't MBL, but I've got 18 SR grails and not quite sure which to use them on. Here's what I've got:

Water: Parvati
Wind: Hermes, Cronus, Maeve, Freja, Krampus, Ithaqua
Lightning: Nemesis, Psyche
Dark: Tsukuyomi, Pharol, Lu Bu [Ren], Meretseger

Which one[s] are most beneficial to MBL?

So that last limit break is all about how useful the upgrade to their 2nd skill is. Let's go over each one:

Parvati - 'performance up'; presumably an increase to the amount of the atk/ability damage buff, but wiki doesn't say how much
Hermes - increases duration from 1 to 2 turns
Cronus - the atk buff aspect gets increased; unlisted amount
Maeve - doubles the reflection damage. The skill originally reflects back 1.5 times the received damage, so I think this upgrade changes the multiplier from 1.5x to 2x. Going from 1.5x to 3x seems a bit beyond what I'd see from skill upgrades for SR.
Freja - atk/def buff increased
Krampus - rage gauge reduction upped from ~10% to ~25% (wait, that seems rather high)
Ithaqua - heal amount increased from 800 to 1000
Nemesis - 3.5-4.0x damage against raging enemies becomes 4.0x
Psyche - heal amount increased from 800 to 1200
Tsukuyomi - reduce cooldown by 1 turn
Pharol - reduce cooldown by 1 turn
Lu Bu - debuff amount raised from 10% to 15%
Meretseger - reduce cooldown by 1 turn

If you don't have the dark variant of Amaterasu, then limit break Lu Bu.
Aside from her, it gets harder to say without knowing what else you have/who you actually intend to use.
In a vacuum, Hermes/Ithaqua/Krampus (if that 25% is right) have the next most impactful skill upgrades.

What I'd do is just limit break Lu Bu and save the grimoires for the time being. But I also tend to only carry out these last limit breaks for the SRs I intend on using in the long term (barring lucky SSR rolls).

[quentamanas]

Yeah sorry, should have clarified, I main fire with a secondary water, but I just snagged Gaia so I'm working on beefing up my Wind team. I've got (virtually) complete fire and water grids.

My SSRs are:
Ares, Svarog (Awakened), Amaterasu
Poseidon, Ryu-Oh, Nike (Awakened)
Azazel, Gaia
Thor
Sol, Michael
Susanoo, Satan.

I got Amaterasu, Ryu-Oh, Azazel, Gaia and Thor all from my year 1 anniversary rewards. I was pretty dang lucky. I agree with Lu Bu, definitely worth it.

[mysticunknown]

I am so happy that I managed to magic jewel gacha Sol out during this event, but I realised that Rudra is going to appear in a few weeks. I assume there would be an appearance bonus for her too along with Ashirat? Wonder how many magic jewels can I save by then...well I hope I can somehow get Rudra.

[sanahtlig]

I am so happy that I managed to magic jewel gacha Sol out during this event, but I realised that Rudra is going to appear in a few weeks. I assume there would be an appearance bonus for her too along with Ashirat? Wonder how many magic jewels can I save by then...well I hope I can somehow get Rudra.
If you haven't been playing long, you could just reroll for her. Your chances of pulling her in jewel gatcha with a single 10-roll are near 0.

[mysticunknown]

If you haven't been playing long, you could just reroll for her. Your chances of pulling her in jewel gatcha with a single 10-roll are near 0.

So it is that bad huh, I cannot really sacrifice my SSR water team (Nike,Raph, Cthul,Shiva) just to start for her haha. I guess it makes sense considering after over 400+ rerolls i only have gotten 2 Kirins before and no Belials.

[QXZ]

if u have Kirin, i'd build a thunder team over a sol team. take advantage of miracle ticket now and grab Raiko.

but Thunder is absolutely not for FTP players

[Aidoru]

Seemingly completely out of nowhere update (unless DMM did something similar).


Dear Gamers,

A new currency [Star Coin] will soon be replacing Nutaku Gold as Kamihime Project's paid currency.
Star Coins will be available after maintenance ends on April 1st.

◆What are 'Star Coins'?
Star Coins are a new in-game currency spefic to Kamihime Project which can be used to purchase paid content.
Contents which until now were purchased with Nutaku Gold will henceforth be purchasable with Star Coins.
Star Coins can be purchased for Nutaku Gold via the 'Buy Star Coins' page in the Shop.

◆Changes
-Star Coin Shop Added
-Nutaku Gold Shop Closing
-Ability to draw from the Premium Gacha or buy Shop items with Star Coins added.
-Ability to draw from the Premium Gacha or buy Shop items with Nutaku Gold removed.
*All changes will be implimented after maintenance ends on April 1st.

◆What can be bought with Star Coins:
-Various Gachas (Those that have been drawn using Nutaku Gold until now)
-Elixirs
-Energy Leaves
-Weapon Inventory Expansion (+10)
-Eidolon Inventory Expansion (+10)
-Accessory Inventory Expansion (+10)

Honestly can't seem to figure out why they would do this. Don't want players to use nutaku gold on this game and use leftover on other games?

Well hopefully the exchange rates are the exact same or better.

That or April Fools joke... maybe?

[sanahtlig]

Honestly can't seem to figure out why they would do this. Don't want players to use nutaku gold on this game and use leftover on other games?
The first notion that comes to mind is that the more you abstract the concept of paying money for gameplay incentives, the more willing younger players (18-25) might be to spend. You can read more on this monetization paradigm here (https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/RaminShokrizade/20130626/194933/The_Top_F2P_Monetization_Tricks.php). Supposedly such strategies don't work as well once the prefrontal cortex finishes developing.

[Unregistered]

Funny enough, we're late on that. DMM implemented kamihime coins to replace the usage of DMM points (like these star coins replacing the usage of Nutaku gold) on February 28 last year, which is about 11 months after their launch. This is what, 13.5 months after ours?

[Aidoru]

Funny enough, we're late on that. DMM implemented kamihime coins to replace the usage of DMM points (like these star coins replacing the usage of Nutaku gold) on February 28 last year, which is about 11 months after their launch. This is what, 13.5 months after ours?

Did this have any major impacts like increase cost or basically no difference in the end other than doing one more transaction?

[Unregistered]

It looks like the prices stayed the same, so it's just that extra transaction.

[Aidoru]

It looks like the prices stayed the same, so it's just that extra transaction.

Hopefully Nutaku does the same.

[VeryVoodoo]

Hopefully Nutaku does the same.

Supposedly we get bonus jewels to go along with the transactions too. Guess we'll see if that remains as well.

[J4fusion]

Ladies and gentlemen I give to you our wish is complete9654

[Cobblemaniac]

Ladies and gentlemen I give to you our wish is complete9654

Another Amon, and an SSR phantom element Diabolos? Space whale intensifies

[Delete]

On the news of the game it says that Nutaku Gold will close for Kamihime and it will be changed for something named Star Coins. That seems rather strange. Someone knows something about this? :think:

[Slashley]

On the news of the game it says that Nutaku Gold will close for Kamihime and it will be changed for something named Star Coins. That seems rather strange. Someone knows something about this? :think:It was just discussed on the previous page... :sweat:

But here's my thoughts on it:
DMM has been using that system for ages, so it was quite likely it'd move on to Nutaku as well.

In theory, the price will stay the same. It's just meant to be a convoluted system where you convert Real Money -> Nutaku Gold -> Kamihime Gold, in the hopes that you lose your idea of the value of your money.

Also, from our perspective, this allows Nutaku to give us discounts on premium currency. For example, for Kamihime anniversaries, they could give discoint on Kamihime Gold. Like buy 200 Kamihime Gold, get 50 for free kinda deals. Previously, they'd have to give that ALL Nutaku Gold, so they couldn't really run Kamihime specific offers like that.

Are such discounts ever going to happen with Greedtaku though? Probably not. But they have the ability to, now.

[Delete]

Ups. Sorry. I'm blind.:sweat:

[Slashley]

There was a big patch for DMM. Here's some of the things I deciphered from the moonrunes:

-MP implemented
-- gained by converting SP and HSP
-- gained by a level 20 Soul getting exp
-- MP can be spent to upgrade Souls (there is a max amount of upgrades that can be spent across all Souls? You can destroy upgrades if you want for no refund?)

-You can now manually set which Eidolons you want people on your FL to see.

- Disasters:
-- Ragnarok Disasters have been renamed to Ultimate
-- Ragnarok Ice and Ragnarok Fire Disasters are now available
--- Spawning cost is 70AP + 3 Regalia, joining the raid is 5 BP
-- Fourth and fifth Accessory slots are now available from items dropping from Ragnarok Disasters.

- Accessories
-- There are a now a "type" bonus which grant unique bonuses when all pieces are equipped
--- Activated when all pieces are a "ring" or a "brooch" or "tiara" (3 pieces? 5 pieces?)
-- There is also a "unique" bonus (criteria?). When bonus "unique" and "type" bonus criteria are met, only "type" will be active.

- new stamps

- Maximum inventory size is now 500 for weapons and eidolons, 1000 for accessories
- maximum friends increased to 75 (at rank 100)

- Gem gacha changes:
-- Added new Rs into Gem Gacha (2 per element)
-- maximum pulls is now 15*10 daily
-- daily free gacha is now a 10-pull
-- reduced chance of Half Elixirs and other items slightly?
-- "pull 3 gem gacha" daily change to "pull 1 gem gacha"

It'll take us like 11 months to get these... :sad:

[nazrin992]

Gem Gacha now has no N weapons and eidolons now and the R fodders rate are boosted as hell.

[Unregistered]

So i'm a new players and seeing some guide on the website and what not

I got Marduk and Hades on my 20 jewel rolls ... do you think i should rerolls?

[BlazeAlter]

Gem Gacha now has no N weapons and eidolons now and the R fodders rate are boosted as hell.

damn, i wish it was like that on our version now... i would have a more easier time upgrading all my grids...


So i'm a new players and seeing some guide on the website and what not

I got Marduk and Hades on my 20 jewel rolls ... do you think i should rerolls?

didn't u ask this already on the rerolling thread?
well anyway, if you have the time and patience to do more rerolls, then go for it until you get what you want,

or as Slashley replied to u on the other thread:

That's not really worth stopping for, no... you'll generally want to aim for one these, probably in order:
1. 100% Eidolon
2. 1 core SSR Hime of an element you think you'll enjoy playing
3. 2 SSR Hime of an element

Well, I guess Hades fulfills condition #2.

But that's up to you, if you dont have the time and patience to do more rerolls and you're content with what you got then stick with it.

[Unregistered]

There was a big patch for DMM. Here's some of the things I deciphered from the moonrunes:



It'll take us like 11 months to get these... :sad:


Why 11 months?

[Cobblemaniac]

Why 11 months?

This is an oversimplified version of what happens:

DMM games (Japanese) releases Kamihime Pro.

Between 11-12 months pass.

Nutaku comes in and translates game, and hosts game on the server, thus birthing Nutaku Kamihime, the English version.

This 11-12 months gap is kept consistent because Nutaku implements whatever events and content in a similar fashion to the DMM's schedule. This is how we're able to predict future content for our English version, because history will literally repeat itself from DMM to Nutaku, save a few variations here and there.

[sanahtlig]

Someone should tell the English devs to implement the Gem Gatcha fix that removes N weapons and eidolons immediately, and maybe increase the cost by 5-10x to maintain the current balance. This would be a huge quality-of-life improvement. Rolling the Gatcha and discarding the useless weapons shouldn't take as long as it does currently.

[artista]

Someone should tell the English devs to implement the Gem Gatcha fix that removes N weapons and eidolons immediately, and maybe increase the cost by 5-10x to maintain the current balance. This would be a huge quality-of-life improvement. Rolling the Gatcha and discarding the useless weapons shouldn't take as long as it does currently.

Yea, that would be pretty nice :grin:

[Slashley]

Why 11 months?As said by others, we're 12 months behind DMM.

However, this is part of DMM Kamihime's second anniversary, and we're 11 months behind in anniversaries. For example, we got our 400 max spaces on the first anniversary. That's why 11 months, not 12.

[Unregistered]

6 hours + into rerolling, and no 100% eidolon :'(

[Laventale]

6 hours + into rerolling, and no 100% eidolon :'(

It can take weeks, lmao.

If you're just looking for any of the 100% Eidolons, I'd recommend you to start rolling in 3 days, when the Wind 100% one gets released.

[Unregistered]

It can take weeks, lmao.

If you're just looking for any of the 100% Eidolons, I'd recommend you to start rolling in 3 days, when the Wind 100% one gets released.

WEEKS?!?!? hell...

[Unregistered]

I wonder what is the ratio of 100% eidolon compared to the non-100% eidolon..

1:100? X.X

[Unregistered]

Hey! guess who got Belial under 8 hours of rerolling!

FeelsGoodMan

Mostly used 1 browser for 7 hours .. decided to go with 2 .. after like 30 minutes with 2 browser, belial shown up.

[Laventale]

Hey! guess who got Belial under 8 hours of rerolling!

FeelsGoodMan

Mostly used 1 browser for 7 hours .. decided to go with 2 .. after like 30 minutes with 2 browser, belial shown up.

Gratz man, now go get Ama and Bryn.

[sanahtlig]

Accounts can be rerolled at a pace of 20 an hour or so. If Belial can be rolled once about every 300 accounts, that's about 15hrs average. Shouldn't take weeks.

[Unregistered]

Gratz man, now go get Ama and Bryn.

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i can put a giant CROSS on that.

WIll save every jewel (i sadly have to use both 3k rolls to get Belial(since i got her on my second roll) until the last 100% eilodon is realease ... and who know...

[nazrin992]

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i can put a giant CROSS on that.

WIll save every jewel (i sadly have to use both 3k rolls to get Belial(since i got her on my second roll) until the last 100% eilodon is realease ... and who know...

You better hope that RNG is on your side because a 100% fire eidolon without a fire team seems moot.

[Unregistered]

You better hope that RNG is on your side because a 100% fire eidolon without a fire team seems moot.

Well, for now, i don't have a fire team ... but that will help for the future...

now a question that been bothering me.

What are the criteria so that your friends appear on the eidolon support list when you go in a raid or quest?

I thought that it need to be online .. but despite that, i cannot access my friends eidolon as it doesn't show in the wind tier (Sleipnir)

[Unregistered]

(At this point, i should make an account >.>)

So, i got a question

"
Q: What do the + sign in my summon/weapon means?
A: The + sign means that when you use that summon/weapon as upgrading fodder, it will pass over +1 to the character/weapon being upgraded.
Each + increases your character/weapon HP by 1 and attack by 3.
it is not recommended to upgrade KH with + as the effect is insignificant. Use + to upgrade summon and weapon instead.
The maximum + is 99.
"

my question is: Is the only way to get +weapons/+eidolon/+Kamihime is via gacha? OR there is a way to make a "+0" into a +1?

[kylie]

the only way to get+weps/eidos is via gacha, or thru upgrading +0s with weps/eidos that have +s which is brings me back to my first point.

[Unregistered]

Thank for the answer <3 My hope now is to get +s from the gem gacha X.X

[nazrin992]

Well, for now, i don't have a fire team ... but that will help for the future...

now a question that been bothering me.

What are the criteria so that your friends appear on the eidolon support list when you go in a raid or quest?

I thought that it need to be online .. but despite that, i cannot access my friends eidolon as it doesn't show in the wind tier (Sleipnir)

Your friends need to be recent online. If you used it already, then you have to wait an hour before using the same friend again.

[BlazeAlter]

9661

Just wanted to share this (even though its not too important)
JP actually gave a free SR miracle ticket for their 2nd anniversary login bonus thingy

(im sure this would be useless for those super whales that have all SR himes, but this is probably a nice thing for F2P players in the future)

[Cobblemaniac]

9661

Just wanted to share this (even though its not too important)
JP actually gave a free SR miracle ticket for their 2nd anniversary login bonus thingy

(im sure this would be useless for those super whales that have all SR himes, but this is probably a nice thing for F2P players in the future)

Helps a huge ton for new players looking to reroll for accounts actually.

[bigblackcock]

there some question about future updates, maybe someone knows.
1. when the "auto" button was first added to story? it can help me a lot in recording encounter episodes so was interested
2. today i did X10 gem gacha in dmm and saw no eido, no N weapons too...just R weapons, seeds, elemental fangs and other material
did they remove the eidolons and N weapon/eido or i just haven't saw them with that 10X draw? and if so, on what update it was changed?
3. can someone assume who is the next raid ragnarok to get ragnarok level and when?
4. i've thought that unleashed amon's debuff were frame A, but now that i check wiki both in debuff page and in her page, it show up as frame C.
is it an error? or they changed it?

[Cobblemaniac]

there some question about future updates, maybe someone knows.
1. when the "auto" button was first added to story? it can help me a lot in recording encounter episodes so was interested
2. today i did X10 gem gacha in dmm and saw no eido, no N weapons too...just R weapons, seeds, elemental fangs and other material
did they remove the eidolons and N weapon/eido or i just haven't saw them with that 10X draw? and if so, on what update it was changed?
3. can someone assume who is the next raid ragnarok to get ragnarok level and when?
4. i've thought that unleashed amon's debuff were frame A, but now that i check wiki both in debuff page and in her page, it show up as frame C.
is it an error? or they changed it?

I only have a definitive answer for question 3: check out the event encyclopedia in Sana's toolbox, it does estimate when the ragna (I guess they're now ultimates in DMM) disasters (or catastrophes) are released in Nutaku. I don't remember the actual dates, but fire is coming next.

[Unregistered]

Would you prioritize summon or eilodon, if you have to give one +s?

[mysticunknown]

I was just wondering about this since I do plan on mass rolling for Athirat and Rudra, but does anyone get the newly released KH on Day 1 of the release update usually? I am asking this here cause I cannot really find a specific thread to put this in. I used to do chronic mass rerolls, due to my main always having bad draws like 4 months ago and I realised that like across the various newly released KH, I never really did draw any of them on Day 1 despite rerolling the most during then.

Dark Ama (Reiki Advent period)
This was when I just started so I can't remember that well and also because I didn't really understand the reroll mechanics so I rolled around 20~30 times a day for about a week? I vaguely remember that I sort of only managed to reroll her towards like the middle or end of the advent period.

Hastur
Well for Hastur I did not reroll that much already since I found a decent Alt (gaia, dark amon back then). The intent then was just to see what are the chances of 3 SSR KH in the first 20 rolls which is really rare imo (considering if it is a 1/3 accounts for a SSR, 1/6 or 7 for a SSR kamihime and like ~1/300 at least for 3 SSR kamihime). I was quite free then, but I sort of remembered not rolling any Hastur on the first 3 days (probably like 200 rerolls or so)

Saraswati
I remembered rerolling at least 120~150x2 times on day 1 and having 0 draws of her, but on day 2 I had about 2 in 30x2 and about 2 in 80x2 in day 3 if i remember correctly.

Eros
Eros well long story short about 80~100 rerolls on day 1 and 0 Eros, 2 or 3 in like 40? rerolls on day 2.

TL;DR I cannot remember actually rerolling a newly released KH on release date, I wonder if everyone else generally has a different experience from me.

[sanahtlig]

I used to do chronic mass rerolls, due to my main always having bad draws like 4 months ago and I realised that like across the various newly released KH, I never really did draw any of them on Day 1 despite rerolling the most during then.
If newly-released SSR kamihime weren't in the Gatcha, that would be a really serious bug. Tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars would need to be refunded.

...obviously Nutaku would utterly deny such a thing ever happened and ban anyone who complained about it.

However, someone who was paying attention during the event where Mars was released should be able to tell us if they saw any players using Mars abilities on Day 1 of the Wind Raid event.

[mysticunknown]

If newly-released SSR kamihime weren't in the Gatcha, that would be a really serious bug. Tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars would need to be refunded.

...obviously Nutaku would utterly deny such a thing ever happened and ban anyone who complained about it.

However, someone who was paying attention during the event where Mars was released should be able to tell us if they saw any players using Mars abilities on Day 1 of the Wind Raid event.

I am not really implying anything like that, but based on like the over 1000 times i rerolled, it seemed like the drop rate(which was supposedly boosted due to the new release) on Day 1 seems to have a more minute effect to me as compared to later days. I would not say 0 are released but it feels way harder to get them from my experience.

[Slashley]

there some question about future updates, maybe someone knows.
1. when the "auto" button was first added to story? it can help me a lot in recording encounter episodes so was interested
2. today i did X10 gem gacha in dmm and saw no eido, no N weapons too...just R weapons, seeds, elemental fangs and other material
did they remove the eidolons and N weapon/eido or i just haven't saw them with that 10X draw? and if so, on what update it was changed?
3. can someone assume who is the next raid ragnarok to get ragnarok level and when?
4. i've thought that unleashed amon's debuff were frame A, but now that i check wiki both in debuff page and in her page, it show up as frame C.
is it an error? or they changed it?2. Yes, I believe they cut Ns out from Gem gacha entirely. It was in the second anniversary patch, just one-two days ago. I did translate some part of the huge patch notes some pages back.
3. Do you mean Ragnarok Ragnarok Disasters, or the Ultimate Disasters we don't have yet? Because DMM just renamed the Ragnarok Disasters into Ultimate, while releasing the TRUE Fire and Water Ragnarok Disasters... ... umm, yeah. If you're curious about the Ultimate Disasters we don't have yet, then we're like 7 events late for Thunder. We were 2 events late for Wind, so... the rest will come whenever Nutaku feels like it?
The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming changes in accordance to what happened in DMM, but Nutaku hasn't really been following them in regards to the Disasters. Oh, to further mix things up - we got Dartagnan's and Arthur's Relic weapon like eight events EARLY.
4. SSR Amon got buffed, I haven't hunted the date for it yet. But it is fairly recent, so not something we'll get on Nutaku for ages.
Would you prioritize summon or eilodon, if you have to give one +s?I don't understand the question...?
If you're asking should you give +1s to an Eidolon with high base stats, or to an Eidolon with a good active ability, then the answer is... either is fine. An Eidolon with 2000+ base stats will stick in your team for a long time, but so will Eidolons with an extremely good active ability.

[Cloudofdarkhole6]

4. SSR Amon got buffed, I haven't hunted the date for it yet. But it is fairly recent, so not something we'll get on Nutaku for ages.

I think it was changed on 19th march. At least the change to the def debuff to hit all enemies happened then along with other changes. So I'd assume it got changed to C frame with it, havent seen any other changes to her going through the patch notes

[Cobblemaniac]

Here's a really stupid question I've had for a long time, and it's not even a problem I have with Kamihime...

But how in the world am I supposed to clear the nutaku 7 day in a row login? I've logged in like every day the past 4 months :think:

[Unregistered]

2. Yes, I believe they cut Ns out from Gem gacha entirely. It was in the second anniversary patch, just one-two days ago. I did translate some part of the huge patch notes some pages back.
3. Do you mean Ragnarok Ragnarok Disasters, or the Ultimate Disasters we don't have yet? Because DMM just renamed the Ragnarok Disasters into Ultimate, while releasing the TRUE Fire and Water Ragnarok Disasters... ... umm, yeah. If you're curious about the Ultimate Disasters we don't have yet, then we're like 7 events late for Thunder. We were 2 events late for Wind, so... the rest will come whenever Nutaku feels like it?
The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming changes in accordance to what happened in DMM, but Nutaku hasn't really been following them in regards to the Disasters. Oh, to further mix things up - we got Dartagnan's and Arthur's Relic weapon like eight events EARLY.
4. SSR Amon got buffed, I haven't hunted the date for it yet. But it is fairly recent, so not something we'll get on Nutaku for ages.I don't understand the question...?
If you're asking should you give +1s to an Eidolon with high base stats, or to an Eidolon with a good active ability, then the answer is... either is fine. An Eidolon with 2000+ base stats will stick in your team for a long time, but so will Eidolons with an extremely good active ability.

... when i typed my question, the eidolon and the Kamihime somehow merged into 1 entity. so forgive me and my bizarre/odd question. But thank you for clarifying that.

But you answered the question i'm originally meant to say. Now jsut trying to figure out if Belial is worthy of the +s, or i should keep them for something else.

[Unregistered]

OH, now i remember what i meant to ask!

Should i spent my +s on weapon or eilodon(because both are good, but there is possibly one better than the other at an early stage of the game)

Now you mention 2000 base stats eilodon... how do you calculate the base stats? i'm liooking at the wiki at the list of all SSR eilodon, do you mean Maximum HP + Maximum Attack?

In that case only the lilim fail to pass that( by only 1992 Max Base stats)

The only ones on top of Belial (if we go with Max Base stats) are the Kaiser Dragoons(4200) and Kirin(3342) while Belial(3300). And since you said only 2000+, i guess that the answer to my question is: Yes, use the +s on Belial.

[sanahtlig]

Should i spent my +s on weapon or eilodon(because both are good, but there is possibly one better than the other at an early stage of the game)
Where in the game do you see a choice between adding +1's to a weapon instead of an eidolon...?

[LeCrestfallen]

Here's a really stupid question I've had for a long time, and it's not even a problem I have with Kamihime...

But how in the world am I supposed to clear the nutaku 7 day in a row login? I've logged in like every day the past 4 months :think:

you need to login on the main page, click around in your profile to let the system recognize that you were active. and yes its a very stupid thing that login in the games does not count.

[nazrin992]

Remember when trying to pull Gem Gacha, pulling more than 3 R weapons are really rare?

This pic is the norm of DMM Gem Gacha nowadays.

https://i.imgur.com/aPJfIJ4.png

[Unregistered]

sanahtlig
Where in the game do you see a choice between adding +1's to a weapon instead of an eidolon...?

Sanahtlig, becasue i'm still a huge NEWB to this game(and i still read the guide and such, but there is so much that i can learn by myself) so i have a lot to learn, knowing what is good and what is bad... probably by mistake and what not.

Plus, there had to be someone who must be stupid somewhere ... and this stupid guy is me Dx

[Unregistered]

sanahtlig
Where in the game do you see a choice between adding +1's to a weapon instead of an eidolon...?

Sanahtlig, becasue i'm still a huge NEWB to this game(and i still read the guide and such, but there is so much that i can learn by myself) so i have a lot to learn, knowing what is good and what is bad... probably by mistake and what not.

Plus, there had to be someone who must be stupid somewhere ... and this stupid guy is me Dx

And to answer your question: Well, since weapons have +s(that you get from gacha), i ASSUMED that you could raise weapons +s to 99 as well.

[Cobblemaniac]

Remember when trying to pull Gem Gacha, pulling more than 3 R weapons are really rare?

This pic is the norm of DMM Gem Gacha nowadays.

https://i.imgur.com/aPJfIJ4.png

Does the cost change whatsoever? 1k gems for those drops seems hella cheap

[Slashley]

And to answer your question: Well, since weapons have +s(that you get from gacha), i ASSUMED that you could raise weapons +s to 99 as well.You can, but you can only give +1s from weapons into other weapons. And +1s in Eidolons to other Eidolons :)

Oh, you can also feed the +1 weapons to Kamihime... ... but you shouldn't do that. Since that way you're giving the stats to one Hime instead of your entire team.

[nazrin992]

1000 gems.

[Unregistered]

You can, but you can only give +1s from weapons into other weapons. And +1s in Eidolons to other Eidolons :)

Oh, you can also feed the +1 weapons to Kamihime... ... but you shouldn't do that. Since that way you're giving the stats to one Hime instead of your entire team.

So you seem to understand the confusion that i have. Despite the game showing that BASIC rule since the start, my mind who was preoccupied by those +s got overwhelmed and forgot basic stuff ...

Well, i hope you had a good laugh, i suppose...

[Slashley]

Everyone is new once. I don't think it's anything to laugh about.

The game is full of things which are either not properly explained, or not explained at all. If you find yourself finding the game fun, come back to us asking about what the fuck is the difference in "Character Attack" and "Atk" in Eidolons. That difference won't mean much to you for the next month or two, but it'll be a big deal later.

[Unregistered]

Everyone is new once. I don't think it's anything to laugh about.

The game is full of things which are either not properly explained, or not explained at all. If you find yourself finding the game fun, come back to us asking about what the fuck is the difference in "Character Attack" and "Atk" in Eidolons. That difference won't mean much to you for the next month or two, but it'll be a big deal later.

I WAS LITERALLY WONDERING THE SAME THING!

I guess that Character Attack are the melee hit, and Atk is the spell damage(if they had any) that would be my guess!

[LeCrestfallen]

charachter attack is the same as the + skill from assault weapons, its simply gets added on top of that, and affects all characters of that element.

Elemental attack is basicly a multiplier which affects damage from the same element. Since character attack only gets added on stuff you already have its less of an impact compared to elemental atk. also there are skill that deal multi elemental damage (no point in going further imo).

[Unregistered]

Also, something that i do not understand.

How the hell a friend of mine can have Multiple Eidolon choices as eidolon supporter? he got one fire, thunder, water and dark ... and i'm like "I thoguht only the supporter could be chosen!"

[LeCrestfallen]

You can make 6 teams, just make one team for each element, and use the best possible eidelon for that element as the main eido.
If the teams are empty, the default should be Diabolos.

[Slashley]

Also, something that i do not understand.

How the hell a friend of mine can have Multiple Eidolon choices as eidolon supporter? he got one fire, thunder, water and dark ... and i'm like "I thoguht only the supporter could be chosen!"There's six different teams that you can set up (Edit -> top-right "Switch Party"), and the primary Eidolon from each one will show up to your Friends. Up to one per element, so if you set Diabolos in team A and Medusa in team B, your friends will only see Diabolos.
I WAS LITERALLY WONDERING THE SAME THING!

I guess that Character Attack are the melee hit, and Atk is the spell damage(if they had any) that would be my guess!Nope! There is a stat which helps you do more damage with skills, it's Ability damage. But sadly, that stat is really, really bad and you should avoid it as much as possible.

Well, if you want to know, super-simplified the damage formula is CharacterAttack*ElementalAttack. CharacterAttack also comes from your equipped weapons, but the only source of ElementalAttack is either elemental advantage (like attacking Fire mobs with Water) or Eidolons which have just "Atk" in their description.

As such, the just "Atk" Eidolons are far, far stronger for you than Character Attack ones. Once you get strong, that is. But until then, you can use either and it's pretty much the same stuff.

[sanahtlig]

So you seem to understand the confusion that i have.
A basic strategy for tackling the unknown is to recognize the decision points, and then pause to consider the best option. I.e., I don't need to understand system X until I have to make a decision that system X influences. Since you can't instantly know everything, this is a good way to prioritize what to learn without being in a semi-permanent state of paralysis and indecision.

[Unregistered]

Should I wait for Thanatos or try my luck with Satan now?
I have 18k jewels. 1 SR or higher guranted KH Weapon ticket and 2 R.

[QXZ]

Should I wait for Thanatos or try my luck with Satan now?
I have 18k jewels. 1 SR or higher guranted KH Weapon ticket and 2 R.

depends on what team u already have. if u dont have one, then ya, blow the 18k jewels now on the player's choice. then buy a miracle ticket to supplement the result.

[Unregistered]

depends on what team u already have. if u dont have one, then ya, blow the 18k jewels now on the player's choice. then buy a miracle ticket to supplement the result.

Just dark Amaterasu. Don't know which one of those 2 would be a better choice...

[artista]

Just dark Amaterasu. Don't know which one of those 2 would be a better choice...

I would wait for Thanatos release if you are looking for dark himes cause of rates up.

[QXZ]

Just dark Amaterasu.
thats actually an amazing hime. i would get a miracle ticket now and pick hades. then u can blow it on thanatos

[Unregistered]

I would wait for Thanatos release if you are looking for dark himes cause of rates up.


thats actually an amazing hime. i would get a miracle ticket now and pick hades. then u can blow it on thanatos

Then I will wait for Thanatos.
Why Hades and not Osiris?

[BlazeAlter]

Then I will wait for Thanatos.
Why Hades and not Osiris?

This is just my opinion, but Hades offers an A frame 20% atk down debuff, which would be helpful in a lot of situations, plus she can also block an affliction for the entire team that comes w/ a def buff, and has an AoE blind that is useful for trash mobs (while this isn't as powerful as... let's say Light Tsukuyomi's blind, it can still come in handy) plus she gets an awakening later which makes her even more useful

Osiris does offer heal +burst gauge, but the heal isnt too large. It would be kinda useless if you were facing against some bosses without having an important atk debuff to lower their damage

You can always get Osiris later though

[Sora]

This is just my opinion, but Hades offers an A frame 20% atk down debuff, which would be helpful in a lot of situations, plus she can also block an affliction for the entire team that comes w/ a def buff, and has an AoE blind that is useful for trash mobs (while this isn't as powerful as... let's say Light Tsukuyomi's blind, it can still come in handy) plus she gets an awakening later which makes her even more useful

Osiris does offer heal +burst gauge, but the heal isnt too large. It would be kinda useless if you were facing against some bosses without having an important atk debuff to lower their damage

Or he could just run with Jeanne dark.
Her skill offers -20% attack down and with dark ama+thanatos -40% attack & def down. Furthermore he would have a free ex skill slot and could use ambush.
Also Jeanne dark has a good defense skill.

Personally I would choose now Osiris and later Hades.

[BlazeAlter]

Or he could just run with Jeanne dark.
Her skill offers -20% attack down and with dark ama+thanatos -40% attack & def down. Furthermore he would have a free ex skill slot and could use ambush.
Also Jeanne dark has a good defense skill.

Personally I would choose now Osiris and later Hades.

If he doesn't have any plans to get Pluto for the future, then I guess that's also another option.
When Hades does get her awakening though, she would be able to provide some additional debuffs (like atk rate down), which jeanne wouldn't be able to provide unless the player decides to bring Desertion Ex skill

But I think I'll just let him decide, since I do think both are good options for a miracle ticket, and both are very useful imo.

[Unregistered]

The Eiki Kaihou page (liberation/master points) for souls is starting to be filled out. Plenty of cool stuff.
I am curious about the inheritance system. Is it just cosmetics? Or does it really allow something like, Cassiopeia to benefit from an Andromeda relic weapon while still having Chaos Magic in her natural 3rd skill slot, thus leaving EX slot open?

[QXZ]

Then I will wait for Thanatos.
Why Hades and not Osiris?

because her ATK down always has a place in the team. where as some teams dont use osiris.
also, ATK down is better than heal.
osiris' burst is good, but only when you have a complete team already to make use of that burst.

[Unregistered]

The Eiki Kaihou page (liberation/master points) for souls is starting to be filled out. Plenty of cool stuff.
I am curious about the inheritance system. Is it just cosmetics? Or does it really allow something like, Cassiopeia to benefit from an Andromeda relic weapon while still having Chaos Magic in her natural 3rd skill slot, thus leaving EX slot open?

Any english explanation on how it works? I can make out some things with google translate but chances are some of it I'm interpreting wrong.

Nice to finally see souls get something new.

[Cobblemaniac]

Any english explanation on how it works? I can make out some things with google translate but chances are some of it I'm interpreting wrong.

Nice to finally see souls get something new.

Unfortunately that ain't happening until someone fluent in Japanese (or god forbid, Google translate JP->ENG) can actually interpret it and post it somewhere like here.

[BlazeAlter]

The Eiki Kaihou page (liberation/master points) for souls is starting to be filled out. Plenty of cool stuff.
I am curious about the inheritance system. Is it just cosmetics? Or does it really allow something like, Cassiopeia to benefit from an Andromeda relic weapon while still having Chaos Magic in her natural 3rd skill slot, thus leaving EX slot open?

the only thing I understood from that with google translate is that they could learn 2 new ex skills exclusive to their soul line (like lancelot-gawain-arthur), and that you can't equip those exclusive ex skills to other souls
and you could also put put some buffs to the legendary souls stats i think?

(well correct me if im wrong since i just used google translate, im probably not 100% accurate)

[djthanhboi]

Some screenshots from what I see. I'm not fluent, but I can get what they are saying.
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[djthanhboi]

You can also choose to keep Joan sprite, but have Roland or Olivier abilities and stats. Cosmetic change only.

968696879688

[Cobblemaniac]

9689

What the actual fuck.

Edit: Well just a small update on the game now that it's done: you get some jewels for buying coins with gold.

The last reward for logging in this season is Bugbear, so we get our scene (or 50 jewels if you don't care about it).

BP and AP UI got a reskin... I dunno why.

And prepare for a huge amount of lag currently. That concludes my useless PSA

[Slashley]

Our Gem gacha now has Half-Elixirs in it, along with T1 Cores (common) and T2 Cores (rare).

But R weapons seem to be fairly rare now. It felt like I got one in three pulls.

[AznSamsung]

Our Gem gacha now has Half-Elixirs in it, along with T1 Cores (common) and T2 Cores (rare).

But R weapons seem to be fairly rare now. It felt like I got one in three pulls.

Hopefully we get more rare and easily +1 in raid gacha ... it wont be until next year they remove normal weapon and eldon from normal gacha

[Cobblemaniac]

Our Gem gacha now has Half-Elixirs in it, along with T1 Cores (common) and T2 Cores (rare).

But R weapons seem to be fairly rare now. It felt like I got one in three pulls.

SR enhance materials are available now too. Most importantly (IMO anyway), demogorgon fangs are now on gacha too. Gone are the ungodly fruitless grinds for these pieces of garbage.

[Slashley]

Fangs are very rare in Gem gacha though, you might not see the element you want for a week~

But they are also in the exchange shop too. Quite pricy, but at least they're available.

[mysticunknown]

It feels a bit weird, but I think my friend ID sort of changed...and I cannot find IDs atm.

[BlazeAlter]

It feels a bit weird, but I think my friend ID sort of changed...and I cannot find IDs atm.

wth... now that you mentioned it, my friend ID changed too

[Dunhere]

But R weapons seem to be fairly rare now. It felt like I got one in three pulls.

That's not much worse than what I've been getting all along.

[bmj420420]

What are the new kamihime added to the gem gacha?

[Slashley]

What are the new kamihime added to the gem gacha?Nutaku's own list:
・The following R rarity Kamihime Release Weapons
　　　　- Horae Slash（Dike）
　　　　- Nadeshiko Staff（Kushinada）
　　　　- Norn Delta Force（Skuld）
　　　　- Nuclear Gun Vesta（Hestia）
　　　　- Temptation Cologne（Puck）
　　　　- Nimbus Ramayana（Apsara）
　　　　- Sumerian Hammer（Inanna）
　　　　- Hero's Sword（Verethragna）
　　　　- Elfin Khopesh（Apep）
　　　　- Scaith Knife（Scathach）
　　　　- Miracle Bow（Dazbog）
　　　　- Hand of Glory（Naberius）

[Unregistered]

Should be Dike/Kushinada/Skuld/Puck/Apsaras/Inanna/Verathragna/Apep/Scathach/Dazbog/Nebiros. So there should be 4 of each element now. Next year adds 2 more of each.

[Laventale]

Should be Dike/Kushinada/Skuld/Puck/Apsaras/Inanna/Verathragna/Apep/Scathach/Dazbog/Nebiros. So there should be 4 of each element now. Next year adds 2 more of each.

Too bad I have every single one of these.

Eh, good on the recently started, I guess.

[Marigold]

I'm finally satisfied with my Fire Team, all I need is Shingen (Still lacking 500 Holy SP) for the time being I'll run with Joan EX: Ambush since Mars acts as a pseudo Vissicitudes of Fortune (Debuffs are easier to land).
I'll be moving to either Dark or Light as my next teams.

https://i.imgur.com/oMLBS7o.png
Hey I only used 70$ in my account (Newbie Gacha + Miracle Ticket), might as well be happy about it right?.

Quick Edit: This was my Damage without Mars and running 3 Defenders (That's Hercules' hit, Svarog hits for 91k) I wonder how hard will I hit now.
https://i.imgur.com/Vt8pdYf.png

[Unregistered]

it would seem that they fixed the multi window exploit for raids

[Aidoru]

it would seem that they fixed the multi window exploit for raids

Told by a few others that it still works. Though doesn't for me either, I rarely use it regardless. Maybe it's the browser they use.

Anyways, really small nitpick but hating how I can't see my jewel count on the hud/ui anymore.

[Laventale]

Anyways, really small nitpick but hating how I can't see my jewel count on the hud/ui anymore.

This is the first thing I noticed when I got into the "new" UI.

I was so used to see the exact amount of jewels now I feel kinda lost.

[WhatIconceal]

new dmm stamps and self-made (google) translations if anyone interested; not sure if there's more or not

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kamihimeproject_mato/imgs/4/4/4432b314.jpg

row 1
ボクの出番は！？ - Boku no deban wa! ? - it's my turn!?
ひよええええ！ - Hiyoeeee! - "scream"
またね - Mata ne - see ya
row 2
わくわく - wakuwaku - exciting
間違えた... - Machigaeta... - mistake was made...
おなかすいたあ - Onaka suitaa - I'm hungry
row 3
よんだ? - Yonda? - called me?
てヘペろ - tehepero - (・ω<) ,"laughing embarrassedly and sticking out one's tongue"
働きたくない！！ - Hatarakitakunai!! - don't wanna work!!
row 4
超かっこいい...！ - Chou Kakkoii...! - Wicked Sick...!
落ち着くのだ！落ち着け... - Ochitsuku noda! Ochitsuke... - Calm down
かわいい...！！ - Kawaii...!! - qt!

[Laventale]

new dmm stamps and self-made (google) translations if anyone interested; not sure if there's more or not

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kamihimeproject_mato/imgs/4/4/4432b314.jpg

row 1
ボクの出番は！？ - Boku no deban wa! ? - it's my turn!?
ひよええええ！ - Hiyoeeee! - "scream"
またね - Mata ne - see ya
row 2
わくわく - wakuwaku - exciting
間違えた... - Machigaeta... - mistake was made...
おなかすいたあ - Onaka suitaa - I'm hungry
row 3
よんだ? - Yonda? - called me?
てヘペろ - tehepero - (・ω<) ,"laughing embarrassedly and sticking out one's tongue"
働きたくない！！ - Hatarakitakunai!! - don't wanna work!!
row 4
超かっこいい...！ - Chou Kakkoii...! - Wicked Sick...!
落ち着くのだ！落ち着け... - Ochitsuku noda! Ochitsuke... - Calm down
かわいい...！！ - Kawaii...!! - qt!


I'm kinda baffled that Nyar and Osiris always get emotes. There are more than 100 himes (and souls) to choose from.

[Unregistered]

I'm kinda baffled that Nyar and Osiris always get emotes. There are more than 100 himes (and souls) to choose from.

Nyaruko and Osiris only have one stamp though, it's the main story girls and amaterasu with more than one

[tings]

Hello everyone can I ask something, I have a party of a different element.
Soul: Spartacus
Main wepon: Moonlight bow
Main: Ragaraja, Nyarlathotep, Nmesis, Ithaqua.
Sub: Like and moonlight maiden tsukyomi
How to setting for the weapon? one kamihime one weapon?
What do you guys think?

Sent from my F1f using Tapatalk

[LeCrestfallen]

Go for same elements. The way this game scales your damage, is through your weapon grids, the weapons have a skill called Assault which gives % increase damage to the same element as the weapon. So you want a team, all with the same Element ideally (1 off can be ok if it is really worth while), a full 10 weapons of the same element, to stack as much damage and HP as possible through this Grid.

If you use several different element himes, you will have the problem that you can not strengthen them equally.

[NuckFutaku]

Just got 2x Cybele from rerolling. Is having 2 weapons significantly better than 1 (I have another account with only 1 Cybele)

[Slashley]

Cybele's scissors are a good weapon, so having two of them even at 0-stars would help a new account a lot.

Though, if you're rerolling now, you should probably aim for Hraesvelgr rather than Cybele.

[omelletetherice]

anyone else gettin an error for kamipro?

[Laventale]

anyone else gettin an error for kamipro?

Which one?

Even so, if you're having an error, it would be better to report it on Nutaku's page or discord.

[omelletetherice]

yeah~~ my bad...
found out why i was getting the error. :b
s'all good now thou

[Amak]

Anyone know what all the regalia soul weapons do? Not just the currently released ones.

[Laventale]

Anyone know what all the regalia soul weapons do? Not just the currently released ones.

This comes from my guild's Disc.

http://puu.sh/zWiJX/7eaf297fe9.png

[Marigold]

What I've noticed that no one points out or seems to explain is which Attribute is which Weapon for each Soul, I consider this yo be really, really important

[Laventale]

What I've noticed that no one points out or seems to explain is which Attribute is which Weapon for each Soul, I consider this yo be really, really important

Yeah, I'm as lost as everyone else I guess.

[Aidoru]

There's a copy of each element for every weapon. Just going to be a while before all of them released.

[Unregistered]

What do you mean by which attribute? All of the relic weapons eventually become available in all 6 attributes.

[Unregistered]

What do you mean by which attribute? All of the relic weapons eventually become available in all 6 attributes.

^ this, theres no element restriction, it just happens that the first batch we got was the wind one.

[Unregistered]

Hey! I have a little tiny little question about assault % regarding SSR/SR's

First: By Reading the Forum I've read a few times that the Assault % you get per Skill Level is only 1 with SSR and 0.5 with SR's so a Max Skill Level SSR Should give 20% Assault and a Maxed SR Should give 10% Assault by that alone, is this right?

Second: I've also read that an Assault SSR gives 6% just by being SSR and an SR 3% just by being SR so a full Weapon should give in total: SSR = 26, SR = 13 right?

It's just that I've read people in the forums saying that the max is 16% and some others saying that is 1% per Skill Level in SSR and the contradiction baffles me, I've also read that Pride Weapons are similar to SR (13% max) but + the Pride Bonus, the thing that I find ridiculous about the people saying that a max SR gives 13% and a max SSR gives 16% is that SSR's are really hard to enhance (atleast thrice as hard as an SR to enhance) and I find ridiculous that this being this way is basically punishing you for having an arguably better weapon by making the skill levels harder to enhance with no reward for it whatsoever (if Max SSR is 16 and SR is 13), then is almost pointless to prioritize SSR over SR since the difference is so criminally low...

I'm beyond confused at this point; my weapon grid for my main wind element is this; if some saint will explain me this and tell me my assault% I'd be really grateful...

Skill Lv 20 SSR Pride
Skill Level 20 Mix SSR
Skill Level 20 Assault SSR
Skill Level 20 Assault SSR
Skill Level 20 Assault SSR
Skill Level 20 Assault SSR
Skill Level 20 Assault SR
Skill Level 20 Assault SR
Skill Level 20 Defender SR
Skill Level 20 Defender SSR...
Thanks.

[Unregistered]

Its not assault SSR, cause some SSR dont have the 16%, its assault large, assault medium and assault small, assault large (usually ++) is 16% at maxed, with a base 6%, assault medium (+) is 13% at max and has a 3% base and assault small has no + and its 10% at max, all of them gain 0.5% per skill lvl.

Pride is 0.5% per skill lvl too so at max they give 10% too, the difference being that they give 10% at 100% hp, with that 10% increasing the less hp you have until a max of 29% at 5% hp, the breakpoint between them and assault large being 70% hp.

Finally, 3% may seem not worth it cause its a tiny difference, but that 3% is huge when you have a lot of stats, that on top of most SSRs having way more stats (atk and hp wise) compared to simple SRs, so its not "just 3% more", knowing these values you can calculate the assault value of your grid yourself.

[Unregistered]

0.5% assault per skill lvl, so assault (large) hits 16% at lvl 20 while assault (medium) hits 13% at lvl 20.
It is a low difference, but keep in mind:
1. SSRs generally will have higher atk, so you prefer them eventually.
2. Certain SSRs later get the option to receive a final limit break later. Part of the prerequisites include being lvl 125 and skill lvl 20. This FLB raises the lvl cap to 150 and skill lvl cap to 30. Also, either a pre-existing skill is strengthened or a second skill is added. Other resources are also needed.

So yes, a lot of resources are needed to fully realize an SSR's power. But they're also meant to have the highest ceiling, so it's a fair tradeoff. SRs are quicker to reach their ceiling, but that ceiling is also lower.

Essentially, you invest in an SR with the understanding that it eventually gets replaced by an SSR. How long until that happens? That's variable, but can be lengthy of the order of many months. So you're striking a balance between opportunity cost and your immediate needs. And when it comes to opportunity cost, constantly readjust. Things like 'oh hey, my grids are full of SR or above, any new SRs from this point on is fodder' changes your situation. Things like 'union events from now on spit out tons of R cups' changes things. Or the recent gem gacha update on DMM that removed N trash changes things (by the gods I want this update already).

[Unregistered]

Its not assault SSR, cause some SSR dont have the 16%, its assault large, assault medium and assault small, assault large (usually ++) is 16% at maxed, with a base 6%, assault medium (+) is 13% at max and has a 3% base and assault small has no + and its 10% at max, all of them gain 0.5% per skill lvl.

Pride is 0.5% per skill lvl too so at max they give 10% too, the difference being that they give 10% at 100% hp, with that 10% increasing the less hp you have until a max of 29% at 5% hp, the breakpoint between them and assault large being 70% hp.

Finally, 3% may seem not worth it cause its a tiny difference, but that 3% is huge when you have a lot of stats, that on top of most SSRs having way more stats (atk and hp wise) compared to simple SRs, so its not "just 3% more", knowing these values you can calculate the assault value of your grid yourself.

Oh dear, I've wasted so much time and resources enhancing SSR's rather than going with my SR's first, I feel really dumb now :(
Thanks for your help, sir is much appreciated, I do get your standpoint on the metagame but I just have 2 grids maxed (wind and dark) and I've struggled to enhance others since i've focused on SSR first since I thought it was a big difference, as it stands for me is just an end game luxury or even a punish to skill level SSR for my non main teams

[QXZ]

imo, SR wpns are only good in the first 3 or 4 months. by month 5, u should have at least 10x MLB SSR wpns. even off-element SSR's are better than SR Assault of your main element. their raw stats are too good to pass over.

[Kureru]

imo, SR wpns are only good in the first 3 or 4 months. by month 5, u should have at least 10x MLB SSR wpns. even off-element SSR's are better than SR Assault of your main element. their raw stats are too good to pass over.

13% assault for ~900 attack is not a great tradeoff, even at really high amounts of assault you lose damage. I deal around 1000 less damage per hit by replacing my worst SR with my best off-element SSR. SR weapons should be used until you have 10 same element SSR weapons.

[QXZ]

13% assault for ~900 attack is not a great tradeoff, even at really high amounts of assault you lose damage. I deal around 1000 less damage per hit by replacing my worst SR with my best off-element SSR. SR weapons should be used until you have 10 same element SSR weapons.

um.... u might b right. i need to do some tests.

edit: i think at my level it works out either way.... probably because my stats are low at this time, slvl is low as well and that i am using +chr ATK eidos.

[Marigold]

um.... u might b right. i need to do some tests.

edit: i think at my level it works out either way.... probably because my stats are low at this time, and that i am using +chr ATK eidos.

He is right*
At your level your priority should be Skill Leveling Up SR Weapons before SSR since they'll take less resources and so on, a half maxed 30000 Attack Grid completely dominates and decimates in Damage a 50000 Rainbow Weapon Grid, I use + Character Attack on my main team and I hit for 80k off attribute and 110k+ with advantages, you have to be aware of your priorities if you want to have a healthy end-game If I were you I'd start skill leveling up my weapons as soon as possible.

Cheers

[QXZ]

my SR ATK's are the highest SL i have. one of em is SL20.

but ya i will take ur advice and focus on SL'ing my SR's

[Slashley]

I personally go dual-skill SSR20 -> SR15 -> SSR10 -> SR20 -> SSR20

Do I have a mathematical reason for it? Not really no. But since each Assault level gives you the same benefit (except for dual-skills which gain double), that's probably fairly close to an optimal route. If we're not talking about as optimal as leveling everything exactly equally, which would certainly be better, but boy would it be a pain.

[Unregistered]

I have some questions:
1) now my wind weapon grid is 1 pride SSR gun, 2x dualskill SSR, 1 thunder SSR sword (it's almost 100 lvl so i'm using it for raw stats), 1 defender SR (40 lvl, sl1), rest - assault SR (only 2 maxLB, rest - 0 to 1 LB). Skill lvl is small - 5 to 8. Is there any good reason to craft second disaster lbmax assault bow instead of defender gun? Or use them as skill fodders instead?
2)Are there at least some good sr eidolons, other then Vine and disasters, that are worth keeping? Can i sell all of them in eidolon shop somedays or only disaster/event ones?
3)And another question: my current parties are 1)Mordred, Hastur, Chronos, SR Cybele, Osiris 2)D'arty, Hastur, Chronos, Itaqua, Osiris (no more ssr, no more wind sr, many rares). I found, that Itaqua deals almost the same damage as SR Cybele so i'm using her when i don't need b-type debuff. Yesterday i've got Amaterasu from the premium ticket. Is it a good idea to replace someone (maybe Osiris) with her in this parties?

4) And about D'arty's exclusive weapons - i have 3 options - keep pride gun and save regalias for someone's else exclusive weapon, take gun (allies wind attack up and snatch up), or pistol (wind character hp up, sniper shot up). What are this bonuses in numbers and what should i do with regalias, because i'ts a very long-term plan. Who among the souls will get more benefit from exclusive weapon? My legendary souls are Mordred, D'arty, Jean(in progress).

[Cobblemaniac]

I have some questions:
1) now my wind weapon grid is 1 pride SSR gun, 2x dualskill SSR, 1 thunder SSR sword (it's almost 100 lvl so i'm using it for raw stats), 1 defender SR (40 lvl, sl1), rest - assault SR (only 2 maxLB, rest - 0 to 1 LB). Skill lvl is small - 5 to 8. Is there any good reason to craft second disaster lbmax assault bow instead of defender gun? Or use them as skill fodders instead?
2)Are there at least some good sr eidolons, other then Vine and disasters, that are worth keeping? Can i sell all of them in eidolon shop somedays or only disaster/event ones?
3)And another question: my current parties are 1)Mordred, Hastur, Chronos, SR Cybele, Osiris 2)D'arty, Hastur, Chronos, Itaqua, Osiris (no more ssr, no more wind sr, many rares). I found, that Itaqua deals almost the same damage as SR Cybele so i'm using her when i don't need b-type debuff. Yesterday i've got Amaterasu from the premium ticket. Is it a good idea to replace someone (maybe Osiris) with her in this parties?

4) And about D'arty's exclusive weapons - i have 3 options - keep pride gun and save regalias for someone's else exclusive weapon, take gun (allies wind attack up and snatch up), or pistol (wind character hp up, sniper shot up). What are this bonuses in numbers and what should i do with regalias, because i'ts a very long-term plan. Who among the souls will get more benefit from exclusive weapon? My legendary souls are Mordred, D'arty, Jean(in progress).

1. I'd drop the thunder sword in favour of an assault raid SR to get the assault bonus.

2. Eventually they get overshadowed by the SSRs. Vine gets replaced by Hraeslvegr, Anzu gets replaced by Sleipnir etc. The ones you wanna keep are Vine, Anzu... Annnnnnnd that's about it. I think.

3. Hmm. I'm guessing you don't cash or reroll, considering how jumbled your line up looks. I don't exactly know the meta for these cases, but I'd rather not drop Osiris for Amaterasu so you can drop Cybele for Ithaqua. Reason being Osiris has a burst gauge skill, which you'd lose for what would be effectively a 5% increase in atk and def break... not really the trade off I'd look for.

4. The meta for D'Art now is ignore the assault relic and take the sniper shot boost gun. The only one I remember is the sniper shot value, which is 30% B frame atk and def break. If possible, I'd rather you hold on to your regalias until you have a better defined team, more souls to work with... and definitely until the other weapons come out.

[Aidoru]

I have some questions:
1) now my wind weapon grid is 1 pride SSR gun, 2x dualskill SSR, 1 thunder SSR sword (it's almost 100 lvl so i'm using it for raw stats), 1 defender SR (40 lvl, sl1), rest - assault SR (only 2 maxLB, rest - 0 to 1 LB). Skill lvl is small - 5 to 8. Is there any good reason to craft second disaster lbmax assault bow instead of defender gun? Or use them as skill fodders instead?
2)Are there at least some good sr eidolons, other then Vine and disasters, that are worth keeping? Can i sell all of them in eidolon shop somedays or only disaster/event ones?
3)And another question: my current parties are 1)Mordred, Hastur, Chronos, SR Cybele, Osiris 2)D'arty, Hastur, Chronos, Itaqua, Osiris (no more ssr, no more wind sr, many rares). I found, that Itaqua deals almost the same damage as SR Cybele so i'm using her when i don't need b-type debuff. Yesterday i've got Amaterasu from the premium ticket. Is it a good idea to replace someone (maybe Osiris) with her in this parties?

4) And about D'arty's exclusive weapons - i have 3 options - keep pride gun and save regalias for someone's else exclusive weapon, take gun (allies wind attack up and snatch up), or pistol (wind character hp up, sniper shot up). What are this bonuses in numbers and what should i do with regalias, because i'ts a very long-term plan. Who among the souls will get more benefit from exclusive weapon? My legendary souls are Mordred, D'arty, Jean(in progress).

1. Replace the SR defender weapon you are using, there's little reason to bother with using a SR defender weapon when you have 2 SSR dual weapons and the SR defender weapon is only sLv1. The effects of that weapon aren't even be noticeable.

2. Most SR eidolons are bad, Vine is the only one I would keep despite her awful stats. Some others might be worth keeping like Anzu or Yamata Orochi but you're better off just using event SSRs. As for trading them in, I believe all SRs will work.

3. You'd be better off using R Zephyrs in your wind party than either of those 2 off element SSRs. There's also no reason to use Cybele with D'art since D'art has a stronger b-frame debuff, so you should have replaced her regardless of if 'did similar damage to Itaqua". If anything, you should use Hastur, Cybele, Zephrys, Ithaqua and Joan with Black Propaganda (or Mordred with Trial by Jury.

4. You have better options for a soul than D'art for wind. Wind doesn't need D'art. You're better off saving for a different weapon.

[Unregistered]

1. I'd drop the thunder sword in favour of an assault raid SR to get the assault bonus.

2. Eventually they get overshadowed by the SSRs. Vine gets replaced by Hraeslvegr, Anzu gets replaced by Sleipnir etc. The ones you wanna keep are Vine, Anzu... Annnnnnnd that's about it. I think.

3. Hmm. I'm guessing you don't cash or reroll, considering how jumbled your line up looks. I don't exactly know the meta for these cases, but I'd rather not drop Osiris for Amaterasu so you can drop Cybele for Ithaqua. Reason being Osiris has a burst gauge skill, which you'd lose for what would be effectively a 5% increase in atk and def break... not really the trade off I'd look for.

4. The meta for D'Art now is ignore the assault relic and take the sniper shot boost gun. The only one I remember is the sniper shot value, which is 30% B frame atk and def break. If possible, I'd rather you hold on to your regalias until you have a better defined team, more souls to work with... and definitely until the other weapons come out.

Thunder sword is almost 1.9k attack, l85 disaster bow is only 1,6k, defender gun is 900+ so gun is much weaker then off-element ssr.

Actualy when i started, i knew nothing about the rerolls. My statrting hand was Hastur, Behemoth and Chronos and i was thinking that it was good. But later in about 10 x10 jewel gachas i found only Itaqua and Osiris and it was terrible. I did about 100 rerols, but results were not good at all - no Sol, no Amaterasu, only 1 account with Gaja withount any support( 2 off-element rares). Well, Amaterasu makes my main account not so bad anyway, but i don't know how to use her yet- i have only some fire SR. And cash is not a method at all because they already closed Aigis and Mononofu, so i don't want to spend 50$ to nowhere.

[bmj420420]

I'm wondering what SR Kamihime to MLB next, as I already have all of my SSR and R ones at MLB, and I have all of my main element (wind) SR at MLB (which are only Cybele and Iblis), and I already have my waifu (Eligos) and a select few others (Belobog and Hermod) at MLB too. Thus, I guess, who out of the following should I MLB next:

Fire: Ragaraja, Amon, Raguel, Agni
Water: Triton, Nike, Cupid
Lightning: Baal, Krishna, Nemesis, Psyche
Light: Uzume, Artemis
Dark: Tsukoyomi, Pharol, Nyarlothotep

If it helps, my SSRs are Amaterasu, Yamaraja, Gaia, and Titania.

[Unregistered]

1. Replace the SR defender weapon you are using, there's little reason to bother with using a SR defender weapon when you have 2 SSR dual weapons and the SR defender weapon is only sLv1. The effects of that weapon aren't even be noticeable.

3. You'd be better off using R Zephyrs in your wind party than either of those 2 off element SSRs. There's also no reason to use Cybele with D'art since D'art has a stronger b-frame debuff, so you should have replaced her regardless of if 'did similar damage to Itaqua". If anything, you should use Hastur, Cybele, Zephrys, Ithaqua and Joan with Black Propaganda (or Mordred with Trial by Jury.


I was using Zephyrs before i've got Osiris and she is not better than her in no way. Zephyrs heals 500/5t=100hp/t and does a-type attack debuff. Osiris heals 1100/5t=220hp/t with additional +15 burst gauge (it's 1-2 turns faster burst) and has damaging skill with dizzness. Yes, Zephyrs does a little bit more damage because she is wind (but burst is still weaker then Osiris's), but in general she is not a replacement to Osiris at all.

[BlazeAlter]

I'm wondering what SR Kamihime to MLB next, as I already have all of my SSR and R ones at MLB, and I have all of my main element (wind) SR at MLB (which are only Cybele and Iblis), and I already have my waifu (Eligos) and a select few others (Belobog and Hermod) at MLB too. Thus, I guess, who out of the following should I MLB next:

Fire: Ragaraja, Amon, Raguel, Agni
Water: Triton, Nike, Cupid
Lightning: Baal, Krishna, Nemesis, Psyche
Light: Uzume, Artemis
Dark: Tsukoyomi, Pharol, Nyarlothotep

If it helps, my SSRs are Amaterasu, Yamaraja, Gaia, and Titania.

I would suggest Raguel or Ragaraja, since you have good fire SSRs

[Cobblemaniac]

I was using Zephyrs before i've got Osiris and she is not better than her in no way. Zephyrs heals 500/5t=100hp/t and does a-type attack debuff. Osiris heals 1100/5t=220hp/t with additional +15 burst gauge (it's 1-2 turns faster burst) and has damaging skill with dizzness. Yes, Zephyrs does a little bit more damage because she is wind (but burst is still weaker then Osiris's), but in general she is not a replacement to Osiris at all.

Err you're mistaken? Zephyrus does C frame, which was why she was considered to be the R hime meta for quite a lot of free players. The heal loss is painful, but you can pull Andromeda to sub in more healing should you find it insufficient. Now, stack the atk debuff and heal and you'll find yourself actually surviving about as long as if you used Osiris, or maybe even not needing to survive long, provided you've optimally levelled up your weapon skills.

In that regard you'd also benefit from the weapon skills, which serve as a multiplier, not an addition to your stats... which brings me to my answer to your answer to my recommendation (lol convoluted phrasing but whatevs)...


Thunder sword is almost 1.9k attack, l85 disaster bow is only 1,6k, defender gun is 900+ so gun is much weaker then off-element ssr.

Actualy when i started, i knew nothing about the rerolls. My statrting hand was Hastur, Behemoth and Chronos and i was thinking that it was good. But later in about 10 x10 jewel gachas i found only Itaqua and Osiris and it was terrible. I did about 100 rerols, but results were not good at all - no Sol, no Amaterasu, only 1 account with Gaja withount any support( 2 off-element rares). Well, Amaterasu makes my main account not so bad anyway, but i don't know how to use her yet- i have only some fire SR. And cash is not a method at all because they already closed Aigis and Mononofu, so i don't want to spend 50$ to nowhere.

As I mentioned, weapon skill is a multiplier, so the 300 difference is easily, EASILY overcome with a 13% addition to your atk multiplier at max skill. If that doesn't convince you enough, well just do the maths yourself.

[Unregistered]

Err you're mistaken? Zephyrus does C frame, which was why she was considered to be the R hime meta for quite a lot of free players. The heal loss is painful, but you can pull Andromeda to sub in more healing should you find it insufficient. Now, stack the atk debuff and heal and you'll find yourself actually surviving about as long as if you used Osiris, or maybe even not needing to survive long, provided you've optimally levelled up your weapon skills.

In that regard you'd also benefit from the weapon skills, which serve as a multiplier, not an addition to your stats... which brings me to my answer to your answer to my recommendation (lol convoluted phrasing but whatevs)...

As I mentioned, weapon skill is a multiplier, so the 300 difference is easily, EASILY overcome with a 13% addition to your atk multiplier at max skill. If that doesn't convince you enough, well just do the maths yourself.

But Chronos has c-type debuff too as i understand it (it is stackable with b-type Cybele/D'arty's debuff and a-type Hastur's buff) so i don' need Zephyr's debuff. In addition Osiris can make enemy skip a turn, a usefull ability not very high proc chance, but still better then nothing. Yes, Zephyrus will have a benifit from weapon skills so she will have little more damage (Osiris has greater base damage/hp as partial compensation), but damage of one R hime (that will be much less then for example Chronos's) is compensated with faster burst for all party, so total number of turns to kill boss will be not greater, maybe even less(especialy if i can burst twice) and greater surviability. Spending 500 soul points to Andromeda instead of Cassy is bad idea for me - her res skill is not needed at all, i'll better pick Jean as replacement of Gaja when i should get this SP.

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I'm wondering what SR Kamihime to MLB next, as I already have all of my SSR and R ones at MLB, and I have all of my main element (wind) SR at MLB (which are only Cybele and Iblis), and I already have my waifu (Eligos) and a select few others (Belobog and Hermod) at MLB too. Thus, I guess, who out of the following should I MLB next:

Fire: Ragaraja, Amon, Raguel, Agni
Water: Triton, Nike, Cupid
Lightning: Baal, Krishna, Nemesis, Psyche
Light: Uzume, Artemis
Dark: Tsukoyomi, Pharol, Nyarlothotep

If it helps, my SSRs are Amaterasu, Yamaraja, Gaia, and Titania.

Yeah, I would MLB a fire SR, the fire team seems good. Ragel if you want defense or Agni if you want attack.

[Unregistered]

As I mentioned, weapon skill is a multiplier, so the 300 difference is easily, EASILY overcome with a 13% addition to your atk multiplier at max skill. If that doesn't convince you enough, well just do the maths yourself.

But i'm talking about the exchange of DEFENDER gun with 900+ attack, who gives 0% attack bonus and 3.5% hp, with second assault disaster bow (i already have 4 copies of it). Idea to replace instead off-element ssr weapon with about 1900 attack seems to be much worse. Yes, if i could craft third bow - i will think about it, but it will be not so soon.