Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

[Aidoru]

Yea we are.

[Cobblemaniac]

So I was browsing the DMM wiki to see what new stuff is coming, then I came across this and spit my drink...

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Wtf Japan

[PervertFrVN]

So I was browsing the DMM wiki to see what new stuff is coming, then I came across this and spit my drink...

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Wtf Japan she have ssr version now ?, look nice gj japan

[Cobblemaniac]

she have ssr version now ?, look nice gj japan

SR version. Her skills aren't that good apparently.

[MagicSpice]

SR version. Her skills aren't that good apparently.

that's a big let down...

she kinda sucks as an R character.... still not much love at SR either it seems

but i still want for the scene research....

it's one thing to know where to find all the DMM scene images but... we get uncensored...

[Laventale]

No Sol awakening this event, lads.

Gotta wait another week and a half.

[Slashley]

No Sol awakening this event, lads.

Gotta wait another week and a half.Well, they've forgotten to mention Awakening before and they've still been there, so let's hope that's the case this time too.

What's more worrisome is:
Still no Ultimate daily quests
No "Ultimate" Fire Disasters
No Mordred and Andromeda Relic weapons
Still no Thunder Arthur Relic weapons

Nutaku please, put in some effort.

[MagicSpice]

No Sol awakening this event, lads.

Gotta wait another week and a half.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ODcC5z6Ca0


Well, they've forgotten to mention Awakening before and they've still been there, so let's hope that's the case this time too.

What's more worrisome is:
Still no Ultimate daily quests
No "Ultimate" Fire Disasters
No Mordred and Andromeda Relic weapons
Still no Thunder Arthur Relic weapons

Nutaku please, put in some effort.

yeah, they're kinda slipping in that...

now where have I seen that before....

(cough) SenPro (cough)

[Delete]

What has changed on Satan and the others?

[crackedpepper]

I don't know the changes to Satan and the others, but what I do know is that selling weapons is glitched: it currently shows Japanese text instead of English.

That being said, I am also interested in changes to Satan and other himes...

[Unregistered]

1 nice change is the new rainbow color you get in magic jewel gacha when a ssr is coming
got 2 ssr weapons with 600 jewels 1 was svarog but already have her and the other was tyr's weapon ^^ nice change and usefull to know when to expect a ssr

[PervertFrVN]

1 nice change is the new rainbow color you get in magic jewel gacha when a ssr is coming
got 2 ssr weapons with 600 jewels 1 was svarog but already have her and the other was tyr's weapon ^^ nice change and usefull to know when to expect a ssr
Yeah rainbow door have good luck to me too, 1 multi got oroboros and posidon

[bigblackcock]

aside of ares, the rest of the kami were awakened on the 20+ of any month, so i don't know why some players expected an awakening now when it's merely the 11th...
but yea, expected to have fire ragnarok (well, for us it's still ragnarok lol) raid boss, so it's kinda a let down..

[Cobblemaniac]

aside of ares, the rest of the kami were awakened on the 20+ of any month, so i don't know why some players expected an awakening now when it's merely the 11th...
but yea, expected to have fire ragnarok (well, for us it's still ragnarok lol) raid boss, so it's kinda a let down..

On the bright side, Hercules 2.0 is finally out.

[Delete]

Hercules (and Achiles and Spartacus) lose the "loss buff when making skill attacks", right? But Satan and the others? :think:

On other things... the "back" bottom does not seem to work for me. I'm the only one with that problem? Is not serious...but is annoying.

[BlazeAlter]

uh I think hercules isnt working properly lol
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I stacked buffs, im on 50% def debuff and I see this pathetic small number. wtf?

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^normally this is how strong her first skill should hit

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I guess nutaku messed up again.. everyone on my team is hitting their normal numbers

and isnt her buffs supposed to last 5 turns now? since that's what Im seeing on JP wiki, unless we're getting that on a later update or something
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still 3 turns, and here I was really excited for her change..

[Unregistered]

I don't normally use Hercules but I tried a battle with her and I'm getting the low damage thing with Full Break too. It's also not removing any buffs when used. Sent a ticket.

[BlazeAlter]

I don't normally use Hercules but I tried a battle with her and I'm getting the low damage thing with Full Break too. It's also not removing any buffs when used. Sent a ticket.

probably gonna be another emergency maintenance soon to fix it. I wonder if hercules is the only one they messed up, or if the other rebalanced characters got affected too or something
if only they would notice these things faster than the players do... *sigh*

(guess there will be more compensation jewels too lol)

[Unregistered]

Wait... I guess Full Break not removing buffs is not a bug though. Should've checked with the wiki first.

[BlazeAlter]

Wait... I guess Full Break not removing buffs is not a bug though. Should've checked with the wiki first.

yeah thats normal with Full Break now (which is a very good thing, so herc can now benefit from her buffs till they last unlike back then). its probably just the damage thats bugged
and if you checked the wiki, and if they really did buff her, then her buffs should last 5 turns now, yet its still 3 turns. im not sure if thats gonna be for another update but if it is, that would be really dumb.. like why not add it now? I don't really see the point of adding it later...

[Delete]

Seems that today actualization messed up various things; Hercules, the "Back" buttom...I have seen that the Darkness Lost attack of Satan tries to do something more after reducing 1 dot of overdrive, but nothing happens. What should happen? Some bug more on the other actualizations?

[Unregistered]

Darkness Lost always had a low chance of failure... unless they somehow messed that up.

[BlazeAlter]

i havent experienced any issue with the back button yet though, but what you said with satan's Darkness Lost move seems strange, since i checked the jp wiki and it doesnt really do anything besides...

[Cobblemaniac]

It depends on browser. As far as I know, only chrome users get the blunt end of the shovel cause of an update.

[BlazeAlter]

It depends on browser. As far as I know, only chrome users get the blunt end of the shovel cause of an update.

ive been using chrome beta ever since sloth union event and my back button has never failed me once lol
guess im kinda lucky in that even tho its not really that big of a deal

[Cobblemaniac]

ive been using chrome beta ever since sloth union event and my back button has never failed me once lol
guess im kinda lucky in that even tho its not really that big of a deal

I see... This problem occurs in chrome original. I did see this problem happening in chrome beta v65, so now that chrome is updated the errors in the beta might have carried over. Is the beta in v66 now?

[Delete]

Maybe I am wrong with Satan; I do not use her normally. But something must have change if she is mentioned on the notes. Wait and see, I supposse?
The Back button is annoying, but not important.

[BlazeAlter]

I see... This problem occurs in chrome original. I did see this problem happening in chrome beta v65, so now that chrome is updated the errors in the beta might have carried over. Is the beta in v66 now?

I'm actually still using v65 and I have never updated it once... so maybe that back button problem might be exclusive to chrome original? (unsure)


Maybe I am wrong with Satan; I do not use her normally. But something must have change if she is mentioned on the notes. Wait and see, I supposse?
The Back button is annoying, but not important.

the only ones who can confirm if something did change with her is ppl who use her on a daily basis... sadly I don't really have her so I can't really say anything about her either, I could only confirm the thing about hercules 1st skill not working (and perhaps her buffs not lasting 5 turns)

[Slashley]

aside of ares, the rest of the kami were awakened on the 20+ of any month, so i don't know why some players expected an awakening now when it's merely the 11th...Because we don't stare at dates, we stare at events. And so far, Nutaku has Awakened Hime one event early. Two for Ares.

So Awakening Sol on DMM schedule is odd.

[blubbergott]

I'm actually still using v65 and I have never updated it once... so maybe that back button problem might be exclusive to chrome original?

Nope, I had it on the beta on 2 devices, never on standard Chrome.

Satan got the cooldown on her first 2 skills increased by 1.

[HugMeTender]

Any of the new gachas even worth it? I've been sitting on 3k coins for a while and can't make up my mind :v

I like the contents of the rebalanced, but no guarantee makes my sphincter tighten.

[Slashley]

Any of the new gachas even worth it? I've been sitting on 3k coins for a while and can't make up my mind :v

I like the contents of the rebalanced, but no guarantee makes my sphincter tighten.No guarantee means 200 bucks per random SSR. Unless you have more money than common sense, keep your coins to yourself.

[HugMeTender]

No guarantee means 200 bucks per random SSR. Unless you have more money than common sense, keep your coins to yourself.

Guess I'll hold on to it longer then. I doubt I'm buying more star coins so I'm waiting for something good.

[BlazeAlter]

Nope, I had it on the beta on 2 devices, never on standard Chrome.

Satan got the cooldown on her first 2 skills increased by 1.

hmm, that's kinda weird...
I can't say if I'm experiencing that on standard chrome, since I stopped using that ever since it started eating a ton of memory and making kamihime so laggy I can't even play properly...

is... that supposed to be normal or is that another mistake on nutaku's part?

[MagicSpice]

so, anyone know what the others got changed as well?

only thing i got from this so far is that the herc family shouldn't lose their buffs when nuking..


No guarantee means 200 bucks per random SSR. Unless you have more money than common sense, keep your coins to yourself.

it's rare if it takes that much for me... i legit think that calculation is wrong cause i tend to find 2-4 SSR within that amount spent. (but 3% chance of an SSR is about 33 pulls when you should see one... which is about 100-120 bucks)

i can't be that lucky can I?

but i do agree, don't do the non-guarantee ones unless you're feeling lucky, prepared to throw a lot if necessary, or won't be salty about a bad outcome...

[Slashley]

it's rare if it takes that much for me... i legit think that calculation is wrong cause i tend to find 2-4 SSR within that amount spent. (but 3% chance of an SSR is about 33 pulls when you should see one... which is about 100-120 bucks)--SSRs are 50-50 on Eidolons and Hime. 1.5% SSR Hime draws, 1.5% SSR Eidolon draws, 3% total.

1/0.015*3 dollars = 200.0 dollars

Sometimes you go below that, sometimes you go above that. That's what RNG does.

[MagicSpice]

SSRs are 50-50 on Eidolons and Hime. 1.5% SSR Hime draws, 1.5% SSR Eidolon draws, 3% total.

1/0.015*3 dollars = 200.0 dollars

Sometimes you go below that, sometimes you go above that. That's what RNG does.

then maybe i do have luck cause i've pulled nearly the same amount of SSR hime as i did SSR eidolons...

hell, i got huanglong SIX FREAKING TIMES... and echidna needs one more for MLB...

[LeCrestfallen]

blessed by hime weapons, kinda hated by eidos ~~

[Cobblemaniac]

https://twitter.com/kamihimeproject/status/995181784571744256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fxn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com%2Findex.php%3F%25E7%25A5%259E%25E5%25 A7%25AB%25E3%2583%2597%25E3%2583%25AD%25E3%2582%25 B8%25E3%2582%25A7%25E3%2582%25AF%25E3%2583%2588%25 E6%2594%25BB%25E7%2595%25A5%25E3%2581%25BE%25E3%25 81%25A8%25E3%2582%2581wiki

From the DMM side of things, apparently they have a newfangled gacha reward called the "arcanum of life". Anyone on the DMM side give any updates on what this is about? Just for fun :silly:

[BlazeAlter]

https://twitter.com/kamihimeproject/status/995181784571744256/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fxn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com%2Findex.php%3F%25E7%25A5%259E%25E5%25 A7%25AB%25E3%2583%2597%25E3%2583%25AD%25E3%2582%25 B8%25E3%2582%25A7%25E3%2582%25AF%25E3%2583%2588%25 E6%2594%25BB%25E7%2595%25A5%25E3%2581%25BE%25E3%25 81%25A8%25E3%2582%2581wiki

From the DMM side of things, apparently they have a newfangled gacha reward called the "arcanum of life". Anyone on the DMM side give any updates on what this is about? Just for fun :silly:

this is just my speculation and im basing this off google translate, but I think that item is specifically for leveling himes quickly
maybe when u use those, they gain like a huge amount of levels in an instant? or maybe max leveled immediately or something since that is a gacha promo


We will hold a limited time-only campaign! To the premium 10 consecutive paws, the item that can greatly enhance the Shinki [Arcanum of life] is the person who wants to level up at once at a stretch of Shinki I want you to check by all means

Shinki usually refers to himes
and I saw the words enhance and level up so that's why I thought its probably like that
and if im right, they probably made this for the whales that are too lazy to level all their himes lol (since they have a lot)
(feel free to correct me if im wrong though)

[LeCrestfallen]

should give those things for free to newer players, so that they have an easier time to catch up.

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know when Sol will be awakened? Sanahtligs spreadsheet initially indicated this event. Thanks.

[Slashley]

Most likely the next event then.

[Laventale]

It was a wild guess that since there's a gacha going on right now that involves Sol, this event should've been the one to awaken her.

Now that that posibility was thrown out by the window, next one is almost 100% surely to be the charm.

[Unregistered]

Thanks both of you, here's hoping :)

[Kitty]

had a go at drawing Satan... don't think she turned out too bad :silly:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/445028585301082132/satan.png?width=714&height=773

[VeryVoodoo]

Did you really draw that? That's actually pretty good.

[Cobblemaniac]

I've been wondering Kitty, what program do you use?

[Slashley]

It was a wild guess that since there's a gacha going on right now that involves Sol, this event should've been the one to awaken her.That's not the reason.
The reason was, Nutaku has so far always been one event ahead for Awakenings when compared to DMM. On DMM, Sol is getting Awakened in the NEXT event, so she should've come to Nutaku on THIS event.

I really hope that Nutaku won't now change schedules to match the DMM schedule, since I just bloody moved all the Awakenings one event backwards...
￣\_(ツ)_/￣

[Kitty]

I've been wondering Kitty, what program do you use?
just paint tool sai, like every other amateur lol


Did you really draw that? That's actually pretty good.
of course :D thank you

[MagicSpice]

just paint tool sai, like every other amateur lol

huh....

i thought you would have used GIMP or Photoshop....

[Kitty]

huh....

i thought you would have used GIMP or Photoshop....

i wish i knew how to use photoshop... i could actually be good at art then..

[MagicSpice]

i wish i knew how to use photoshop... i could actually be good at art then..

yeah, it's kinda wierd using GIMP/photoshop compared to paint. I used GIMP (same thing as photoshop but entirely free) in order to resize images from time to time.

It's how I eventually got the cover to my 160cm dakimakura cause there's a website that uses custom images for it (and i sent them images of an Alice in Wonderland daki that is no longer in production).

who knows, they could probably take some of your art and turn them into a daki as well (but given my daki's size it's about 90 bucks minus shipping to get a cover of the cheapest material)

[HugMeTender]

(I'm still kind of a newbie) Is it worth all the grinding to get a 4th weapon from Vritra I currently have 3 so I'm at 2 stars on the sword. (I assume I need that many to break it all the way.) Or should I focus on the other prizes? I only really farm farm her because I have a decent lightning team.

[Laventale]

(I'm still kind of a newbie) Is it worth all the grinding to get a 4th weapon from Vritra I currently have 3 so I'm at 2 stars on the sword. (I assume I need that many to break it all the way.) Or should I focus on the other prizes? I only really farm farm her because I have a decent lightning team.

You should aim for Sphinx Hammer rathen than Vritra's sword (Since the hammer has both Atk and HP and Vritra's only has a HP perk).

But yes, you should always aim to MLB every single weapon you're after.

[HugMeTender]

You should aim for Sphinx Hammer rathen than Vritra's sword (Since the hammer has both Atk and HP and Vritra's only has a HP perk).

But yes, you should always aim to MLB every single weapon you're after.Okay, I'm not very familiar with late game mechanics yet. I just took on the water element cause I can auto Standard. I'm definitely not strong yet.

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[Kitty]

yeah, it's kinda wierd using GIMP/photoshop compared to paint. I used GIMP (same thing as photoshop but entirely free) in order to resize images from time to time.

It's how I eventually got the cover to my 160cm dakimakura cause there's a website that uses custom images for it (and i sent them images of an Alice in Wonderland daki that is no longer in production).

who knows, they could probably take some of your art and turn them into a daki as well (but given my daki's size it's about 90 bucks minus shipping to get a cover of the cheapest material)

now you made me want to design a dakimakura... god damn it lol









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[Laventale]

now you made me want to design a dakimakura... god damn it lol

How much of a Hastur Daki? e.é

[QXZ]

anyone know if i should unfriend ppl whos been away for 30+ days? can u still call on their eidolon when they are away for long period of time?

[Kitty]

How much of a Hastur Daki? e.é

i can do hastur :wink:

[HugMeTender]

Is it even possible for someone who can only beat Expert to farm both events fully in the short time we have? I haven't even done one and I've used 15+ Elixir and I only have 1 Eidolon and 2 star weapon.

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[BlazeAlter]

anyone know if i should unfriend ppl whos been away for 30+ days? can u still call on their eidolon when they are away for long period of time?

if you have a friend list full of active people, you should unfriend persons who have been inactive like that for awhile
cuz you will never see their eidos, mostly because the active friends always take priority

but if you dont have a lot of friends, you can still see them from time to time i think


Is it even possible for someone who can only beat Expert to farm both events fully in the short time we have? I haven't even done one and I've used 15+ Elixir and I only have 1 Eidolon and 2 star weapon.



you're gonna have a hard time trying to do that.. unless you have a surplus of half elixirs and you might be able to come close
this is because experts dont drop as much as ultimates do

[Mraktar]

Is it even possible for someone who can only beat Expert to farm both events fully in the short time we have? I haven't even done one and I've used 15+ Elixir and I only have 1 Eidolon and 2 star weapon.

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It's completely impossible to farm something usefull unless you can farm ulti because high grade mats drop rate is nerfed to the abyss. Devs already implemented loot table from remade events, but kept old prices. I recomend don't worry about current event and save HE for Ilyanka in a month - it will be remade already (prices will be cut in about 3 times) so you could get all you need from experts too.

[PervertFrVN]

Since my kami cover all the debuff i need and i already have modred for BP which soul should i aim for better dmg herc or arthur

[BlazeAlter]

Since my kami cover all the debuff i need and i already have modred for BP which soul should i aim for better dmg herc or arthur

I would say hercules if you can stack a lot of buffs on her, and since her buffs wont disappear anymore after using first skill but... I don't know if she's fixed already

if you do want someone cheaper, you can go for arthur since she costs way less than hercules does (she's also great for burst hours and mvp stealing if you can place provisional forest as ex skill)

[PervertFrVN]

I would say hercules if you can stack a lot of buffs on her, and since her buffs wont disappear anymore after using first skill but... I don't know if she's fixed already

if you do want someone cheaper, you can go for arthur since she costs way less than hercules does (she's also great for burst hours and mvp stealing if you can place provisional forest as ex skill)

Thks i will go herc because burst team is not the best team for f2p because R, SR burst is so weak compare to SSR

[Unregistered]

Is there a faster way to farm Holy Crystals of Light and Holy Stars of Light than the daily Caves of [Element]?

[Sora]

Is there a faster way to farm Holy Crystals of Light and Holy Stars of Light than the daily Caves of [Element]?

No.

Wait for Ultimate daily Caves of Elements to get more Holy Stars of Light, maybe then :p

[Delete]

You can convert one kind on another on the shop. Is expensive, but if you have a good number is an option. Union events have a good loot of Holy Lights.

[bigblackcock]

Atum's encounter episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgaOV9tGSOM
Djehuti:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Fgbw5tQ98
Aten:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJGAREBGveI

[Unregistered]

Guys there's something that kept disturbing me to no end during Raid battle. Why for the life of me I keep freezing every 1-2mns in battle? Most of the time when I was about to Full Burst the boss, my screen freeze and I have to waste some good 30-45s just to refresh and return. But in the time I return, the Raid was already done without me unleashing any kind of burst even if I was there since the beginning of the fight (hence why I can never get any MVP). And that bug happens on all the recommended browsers, from CHROME to OPERA. Wasn't it like 1 year since something like that happened? And it still wasn't solved yet even to this day? I kept my mouth shut for a certain time but this is getting out of hand really. Even the best member of my guild (the ex-leader actually) quit because of that, despite him spending a lot of money on the game.

Guys please if anyone know any solution to this cancerous problem please provide it coz I'm about to lose my patience here. The game is super great and all and that's the only game I play on Nutaku but really I'm this close to quitting it too if that problem still persists...

[Slashley]

Do you mean the "red screen" bug? The one where after you reload with the button, the Eidolons screen is just red and the game doesn't accept any inputs anymore until you F5?
That's an annoying bug to be sure, but it happens less on older version of Chrome. Also, I think Caspiel causes it a lot, the game doesn't like handling her stacking debuff I guess.

Or do you mean just "Connecting..." for a very long period?
That's just lag, which will never go away. Nutaku won't spend their whale money on new servers, that'd be silly!

[Unregistered]

Yes! That's exactly it! Though the difference is I never really reload, it happens...randomly or pretty much when I'm fighting for a longer time (like 1-2mns+). The thing is at first it begins to prevent me from using ANY abilities even if they are ALL mysteriously highlighted, the only thing I can do is auto-attacking until I refresh and go back to the Raid. Also it happens even if I don't use Caspiel's debuff...or maybe it still happens even if I wasn't the one casting that debuff?

And about older Chrome I'll try it out and see. I'll report weither or not things are actually getting better. Thanks for the tips.

[VeryVoodoo]

Also it happens even if I don't use Caspiel's debuff...or maybe it still happens even if I wasn't the one casting that debuff?


Whether or not you use her debuff doesn't actually matter. Just having her in your party seems to create the freezes. And it doesn't even have to be YOUR party. Someone else in the same raid as you (usually the host I think?) having her in their party, can cause the freezes for other ppl in that raid who don't even have her, etc...

Of course, this bug isn't limited to just Caspiel, since it occurs even without her at times in certain events. But she seems to be one of the primary causes. And yes, Caspiel was released many, many months ago, and they still don't seem to be aware that this is occurring. So your best bet is to send in a report detailing the problem as simply as you can for them to understand, and hope that enough ppl have encountered this problem that also sent tickets, so that they might finally get off their asses and try and fix it. :joy:

[HugMeTender]

Trying to figure out what element I should focus on. I can provide screens if needed.

So far the SSR Kamihime I've got are Cthulhu, Satan, Athena, Gaia, and (just pulled her) Shamash. In terms of SR, I've got a lot of water and dark.

The SSR Eidolon I've got are Aqua Kaiser Dragoon, Takemikazuchi, Tiamat, Behemoth, Thunderbird, Vritria, and Jabberwock.

It kinda feels Thunder heavy, however I'm still new to how to build a team. I would assume you can't just go all offense in every situation.

[Cobblemaniac]

Trying to figure out what element I should focus on. I can provide screens if needed.

So far the SSR Kamihime I've got are Cthulhu, Satan, Athena, Gaia, and (just pulled her) Shamash. In terms of SR, I've got a lot of water and dark.

The SSR Eidolon I've got are Aqua Kaiser Dragoon, Takemikazuchi, Tiamat, Behemoth, Thunderbird, Vritria, and Jabberwock.

It kinda feels Thunder heavy, however I'm still new to how to build a team. I would assume you can't just go all offense in every situation.

Your SSR grid doesn't give a clear enough picture of what you should main, we're gonna need your SR himes as well. If possible, showing your weapon skill grids can also help us get a clearer picture.

[Laventale]

Trying to figure out what element I should focus on. I can provide screens if needed.

So far the SSR Kamihime I've got are Cthulhu, Satan, Athena, Gaia, and (just pulled her) Shamash. In terms of SR, I've got a lot of water and dark.

The SSR Eidolon I've got are Aqua Kaiser Dragoon, Takemikazuchi, Tiamat, Behemoth, Thunderbird, Vritria, and Jabberwock.

It kinda feels Thunder heavy, however I'm still new to how to build a team. I would assume you can't just go all offense in every situation.

Holy shit each one of your himes are from different elements...

Also your eidolons (except for Tiamat, TB and Jabba) are kinda trash.

The good thing about Takemi is that she covers three elements (Thunder, Wind and Dark) and Behemoth does so as well (Wind, Water and Light) so the only element you're lacking of both himes and eidolons would be fire.

Anyway, Cthulhu and Satan are your strongest himes of their elements, so starting a Dark or Water team would be the best thing for you for now, even though we are unaware of which SR himes you have possesion of.

[HugMeTender]

Sorry, forgot to include these. Still new to the forum.

[Cobblemaniac]

Sorry, forgot to include these. Still new to the forum.

Looks to me your water grid is slightly stronger than your dark grid (though if I'm wrong someone please correct me). You can hit 50% def break cap with Ambush Belphy and Cthulhu, and you have a nuker in Oceanus. Healer wise... Nike I guess? :sweat: Either that, or you use Parvati in a kill or be killed style of battle.

[Aidoru]

Your water team is your current best choice. Cthulu, Belpheor, Nike and Oceanus will make a completely fine water team, with Joan+Ambush as your soul.

And wind teams are always playable by any new player without any premium himes.

Though you don't have much himes yet so drawing new ones can easily open up more options.

[Laventale]

Your water team is your current best choice. Cthulu, Belpheor, Nike and Oceanus will make a completely fine water team, with Joan+Ambush as your soul.

And wind teams are always playable by any new player without any premium himes.

Though you don't have much himes yet so drawing new ones can easily open up more options.

This pretty much, his Dark is pretty good as well but he doesn't have the grid to back his himes up.

[QXZ]

hi guys, theres been some rebalancing based on the update a few days ago:

◆Other
-Rebalanced Characters
　　-Satan
　　-Uriel
　　-Susanoo [Awakened]
　　-Shamash
　　-Hercules
　　-Achilles
　　-Spartacus

anyone know what got buffed? is there anything noteworthy? other than Awaken Satan now > Amon Unleashed

[Laventale]

hi guys, theres been some rebalancing based on the update a few days ago:

◆Other
-Rebalanced Characters
　　-Satan
　　-Uriel
　　-Susanoo [Awakened]
　　-Shamash
　　-Hercules
　　-Achilles
　　-Spartacus

anyone know what got buffed? is there anything noteworthy? other than Awaken Satan now > Amon Unleashed

More than buffs, a couple bug fixes (Uriel mostly).

Awakened Satan has always been better than Amon U, even tho in a year (or 10/11 months) Amon's debuff changes from A to C frame, that will make very good synergy between Satan and Amon.

Hercules' buff is that her first skill doesn't remove her buffs anymore, but sadly she's broken at the moment, given that his nuke doesn't hit as much as it should.

[Bear]

hi guys, theres been some rebalancing based on the update a few days ago:

◆Other
-Rebalanced Characters
　　-Satan
　　-Uriel
　　-Susanoo [Awakened]
　　-Shamash
　　-Hercules
　　-Achilles
　　-Spartacus

anyone know what got buffed? is there anything noteworthy? other than Awaken Satan now > Amon Unleashed

Susanoo AW
- Abi1 multiplier and dmg cap up
- Abi2 abi dmg is now stackable (more like fixed to be stackable)

Uriel
- Burst multiplier back to SSR tier (but Nutaku already gave you that)
- Abi1 deals AoE dmg (but Nutaku also already gave you that, because back on DMM, Uriel 1.0's Abi1 doesn't deal dmg at all).
- Abi2 CD reduced to 4, down from 6 (which Nutaku strangely did not give you while they did for everything else.)
- Abi3 duration increased to 3, up from 2 (which, again, Nutaku already gave you as DMM Uriel version 1.0 started out with 2).
- Passive DATA rate up (Nutaku alrea- *blip*)

Shamash
- Abi1 Taunt rate up

Satan
- Abi1 debuff accuracy increased
- Abi2 DATA rate increased

Herc tree
- Abi1 no longer self dispel
- Abi2 duration increased to 5, up from 3. Atk buff 25% > 30%.
- Abi3 duration increased to 5, up from 3. Reflect 25% > 30%.

[QXZ]

so is herc still useless even after the buff?

[Aidoru]

Until her weapon is released, there's little reason to bother using her right now.

[PervertFrVN]

Until her weapon is released, there's little reason to bother using her right now.
What is her weapon do ?

[BlazeAlter]

What is her weapon do ?

it gives a 25% def down eido frame when bursting at MLB i think, which is pretty damn nice

[MagicSpice]

Until her weapon is released, there's little reason to bother using her right now.

yeah, only good for a one-shot nuke (like if you're trying to butcher the raging meter) if someone does use her...

bonus points if you can get extra buffs on her though (done right, my water team can get 11 buffs on her at once, but their grid is not good right now)


it gives a 25% def down eido frame when bursting at MLB i think, which is pretty damn nice

pretty much allows def debuff cap on any team if someone can get a decent amount from other sources..

at least 20% can come from ex slot if you can spare it anyway, and that's 45% right there

looking forward to a dark combo with her since i got amon's -25%... no need for any extra if i can get her to burst fast...

[BlazeAlter]

yeah, only good for a one-shot nuke (like if you're trying to butcher the raging meter) if someone does use her...

bonus points if you can get extra buffs on her though (done right, my water team can get 11 buffs on her at once, but their grid is not good right now)



pretty much allows def debuff cap on any team if someone can get a decent amount from other sources..

at least 20% can come from ex slot if you can spare it anyway, and that's 45% right there

looking forward to a dark combo with her since i got amon's -25%... no need for any extra if i can get her to burst fast...

i think ive read this here before somewhere, that some people on DMM actually equip herc's axe on arthur because she can instantly apply that with miracle chalice

[JStar]

Didn't know where else to post this, as there isn't a Lightning Catastrophe topic (that I could find)...

Solo Battle vs. Prison of Lightning: Catastrophe!


https://youtu.be/I0I6luo8ylM

Should I have made my own topic for this one? :think:

[Slashley]

Should I have made my own topic for this one? :think:Probably not, because Ult Thunder Disaster is a joke for some reason.

Ult Wind? Nearly immune to debuffs.
Ult Thunder? VULNERABLE to debuffs. Sniper Shot will never, ever miss. Paralyze just about always lands.
Ult Wind? The regular 10 base def.
Ult Thunder? Just 8 base def.
Ult Wind? 16m HP.
Ult Thunder? 15m HP. Factor in the increased damage it takes, and it's effectively 12m HP (assuming you don't hit damage caps).
Ult Wind? Will slaughter your team one by one with high base combo rate and increased combo+ attack.
Ult Thunder? Deals AoE damage which can just be outhealed.

Seriously, what the fuck. What. The. Fuck.
I guess it's because DMM got Ult Thunder first, so the devs entirely missed out on just how powerful players already were at that point in the game.

[Bear]

Ult Wind? The regular 10 base def.
Ult Thunder? Just 8 base def.


Uhhh TUL has 10 def...
WinUL is the one with 8 def....

[Slashley]

Uhhh TUL has 10 def...
--No way.
Absolutely no way.

At least not on Nutaku, there's zero chance of that.
I wouldn't be able to hit 5m full bursts (with Hraes) on the thing if it had 10. Or 90k normal attacks.


As for Ult Wind, well, not sure on that side. I fight that thing as little as I possibly can since it's such complete ass. From what I can tell, it has 10, but I could be wrong on that.

But on Ult Thunder? No chance. That thing has 8 def at most.

[Bear]

I'm double checking DMM right now. I checked nutaco with others Wind and Thunder indeed take same amount of damage.

Edit:
https://i.imgur.com/ECo1S9G.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/T4HScy0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tfOodPj.jpg

Looks like both Wind and Thunder are suppose to have only 8 def

[Cobblemaniac]

images

Off topic, but these catastrophes look crisp as all hell. Any chance DMM will release them as eidolons? :sweat:

[MagicSpice]

Any chance DMM will release them as eidolons? :sweat:

one could dream.... cause lord knows the SR ones really suck major ass (unless you need the HP and well, just get an SR weapon for it or something)

maybe the same formula but it caps at 30% to both and hopefully gives elemental atk and NOT character atk? (and make them SSR so we got scenes)

[Kastro]

I'm double checking DMM right now. I checked nutaco with others Wind and Thunder indeed take same amount of damage.

Edit:
https://i.imgur.com/ECo1S9G.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/T4HScy0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tfOodPj.jpg

Looks like both Wind and Thunder are suppose to have only 8 def

Beelit my dream of consumption, if everything happens well 60k jelws up to her, then it's just the RNG doing its job.

[Mraktar]

Can anyone explain how elemental bonuses interact with normal buff/debuffs? for example on DMM i will have soon Gawain (15% attack buff, ambush,ss), Nightweil or how she is translated correctly (-30% water resist,-30%fire damage debuff), Venus (10% water damage buff). Are this effects added or multiplied? Do debuffs have shared cap or separate? Is SS overcap in this situation and should be replaced with for example BP?

[Laventale]

Can anyone explain how elemental bonuses interact with normal buff/debuffs? for example on DMM i will have soon Gawain (15% attack buff, ambush,ss), Nightweil or how she is translated correctly (-30% water resist,-30%fire damage debuff), Venus (10% water damage buff). Are this effects added or multiplied? Do debuffs have shared cap or separate? Is SS overcap in this situation and should be replaced with for example BP?

As far as I'm aware, all the debuffs cap at 50%, no matter if you use elemental debuff or not.

[Slashley]

As far as I'm aware, all the debuffs cap at 50%, no matter if you use elemental debuff or not.This.

Sniper Shot + -30% water resist = -50% Def (only for Water characters, everyone else is at -40% from Ambush+Sniper Shot). Ambush is wasted here, really.
Sniper Shot + -30%fire damage debuff = -50% Atk (only for Fire type enemies, everyone else is at -20% Atk).

[Bear]

> For Fire Type Enemies X
> For Enemies' Fire Type Attacks O

There are enemies that has special attacks of different element. Very rare, but they exist. i.e. Light AQ4 Mob, Greed, Vlad

[Laventale]

> For Fire Type Enemies X
> For Enemies' Fire Type Attacks O

There are enemies that has special attacks of different element. Very rare, but they exist. i.e. Light AQ4 Mob, Greed, Vlad

Or himes with attacks with certain elements.

Fire Amon or Summer Sol fit into this category.

[Bear]

:thinking:

I don't think we have any enemy that applies element dmg debuff yet
On a second thought, from Dev's PoV, it encourages off element team and that's kinda NG for them.

[Mraktar]

This.

Sniper Shot + -30% water resist = -50% Def (only for Water characters, everyone else is at -40% from Ambush+Sniper Shot). Ambush is wasted here, really.
Sniper Shot + -30%fire damage debuff = -50% Atk (only for Fire type enemies, everyone else is at -20% Atk).

Thanks, so i shall switch to Mordred(SS).

[Luffy911]

Is Nutaku down for everyone?

[Slashley]

Yes. It should be down for maintenance for hours. Or something.

[MagicSpice]

oh, i just left the game at the right time then...

was fighting the dragon loli for exp fodder for a moment (my tiamat is only lv65) then left about 10 mins ago. didn't know nutaku had maintenence since i'm rarely on their home page

[BlazeAlter]

what happened? I can still access kamihime though

[Luffy911]

Goddammit. This was my first Wednesday I was hoping I can LB my water SSRs as much as I can now this?!?!?

[Unregistered]

Are there gonna be more souls to unlock in the future?
Cause I already have all the actual souls and more than 500 soul points.
If it’s not, then what is the reason for the soul points right now?

[Bear]

Nope. Nothing new to unlock.

All your leftover Points will be recycled into Mastery Points.

[Unregistered]

So is it fine if I spend materials from events buying soul points?
I have lots of leftovers materials...

[Bear]

It's fine if you got nothing better to spend on.

[Cobblemaniac]

These maintenances keep rolling in one after another... Too much to ask for a big fix in one go eh?

[QXZ]

hercules got fixed...is she worth using now?

[Cobblemaniac]

hercules got fixed...is she worth using now?

It really depends. Over Arthur PF, before the def break axe comes in? No I don't think.

[BlazeAlter]

It really depends. Over Arthur PF, before the def break axe comes in? No I don't think.

isnt Arthur PF only worth it if you got all your debuffs covered already?

[Cobblemaniac]

isnt Arthur PF only worth it if you got all your debuffs covered already?

Indeed, that most likely means you'll be bringing sniper shot as EX for B frame, EX ambush for A frame, or Vine. I still question whether Arthur or Hercules is better in this case, considering Arthur has burst spam on hand...

[Slashley]

Nope. Nothing new to unlock.

All your leftover Points will be recycled into Mastery Points.How does that system even work? 100 SP turns into 1 MP, I believe.
1. You also earn MP from combat, how much?
2. There's 12 upgrades per Soul, and you can get them all?
3. What's the MP cost per upgrade?
4. And after you get them, you can "limit break" each upgrade twice?
5. But there's a maximum of total 20 "limit breaks" across all Souls? Or does that count even the upgrades themselves...
6. The new skills, once you've bought them, you can forever use them in that line of characters?

[Bear]

1 - 50k xp per MP
2, 5 - Each stat maxes at Lv3 but you can only invest up to total of 20 MP per hero so choose wisely (Priority: DATA > Atk L + Burst + Crit > Atk M > Everything else)
3 - 1 MP per upgrade. Non-refundable even if you cancel already invested stats.
4 - ...???
6 - Yes

[Slashley]

Oh, 20 MP per Soul. Nice.
I thought it was 20 MP spread across everyone, and that'd be quite tough.

[Delete]

If I am not wrong, Nutaku surprises us with new and &quot;exciting&quot; buggs. :sweat: <br />
First I notice that on accesories the icon for &quot;ability damage&quot; is gone. Nothing important, really. But later, doing...

[Ikki]

with the maintenance they broke all the stacking abilities.

[Rattington]

Has this happened yet? Almost have enough Dragon Eyes to awaken a Titannia but am not in real rush, so wondering if I should wait a bit for the cost reduction.

[Ikki]

Has this happened yet? Almost have enough Dragon Eyes to awaken a Titannia but am not in real rush, so wondering if I should wait a bit for the cost reduction.

happened long ago, dont remember when exactly but its been months since it was implemented, since i remember awakening svarog with reduced costs.

[Cobblemaniac]

happened long ago, dont remember when exactly but its been months since it was implemented, since i remember awakening svarog with reduced costs.

The awakening costs are exactly the same iirc (3 dragon eyes). What changed was the materials and cost of MLBing the himes again.

[MagicSpice]

with the maintenance they broke all the stacking abilities.

so wait, that kills off caspiel then.... at least for now...

and fml, does that mean svarog's atk buff stacking is dead for now too?


The awakening costs are exactly the same iirc (3 dragon eyes). What changed was the materials and cost of MLBing the himes again.

yeah, cause i awakened gaia a LONG time ago and remember needing like 20 of something. i've never seen that requirement again..

[Ikki]

so wait, that kills off caspiel then.... at least for now...

and fml, does that mean svarog's atk buff stacking is dead for now too?


Yes and every ability that stacks, they stop at 1 stack and dont go any further, so basically for the time being svarog is trash.

[Unregistered]

Hey guys i hear that cthulhu is a strong debuffer but her debuff is kinda hard to land, is that true, if so i have to run modred all the time then

[Slashley]

Hey guys i hear that cthulhu is a strong debuffer but her debuff is kinda hard to land, is that true, if so i have to run modred all the time thenProbably.
I only run Cthulhu (with 6% Affliction) with Mordred, and I think that even with elemental advantage the debuff sometimes fails to land. It's rare, but it happens.

On the upside, Mordred with Sniper Shot + Cthulhu is a -AoE with 40% Def, and quite likely to land.

[Unregistered]

Really confused about the + on everything (Kamihime, Eidolons, and weapons). I don't see the pattern in what raises the number, and don't see what specifically it affects.

Anyone wanna fill me in or link me to a guide? :) Only guide I saw sticky was the re-roll one.

[Slashley]

Really confused about the + on everything (Kamihime, Eidolons, and weapons). I don't see the pattern in what raises the number, and don't see what specifically it affects.Sometimes from the Gem gacha, Premium gacha Raid ticket gacha you'll get something with +1. When you enhance something with a +1, it transfers into that item. And if you enhance like a +10 item then that +10 will be added to that item.

Each +1 is +1 HP +3 Atk. Don't put them on Hime, put them into weapons since that way, everyone in your team gets those same stats.

[HugMeTender]

My water team is currently comprised of: Cthulhu, Oceanus, Nike, and Belphegor.

I just pulled Kikuri-Hime. Is she worth throwing into the team? She seems really defensive which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Mraktar]

Hey guys i hear that cthulhu is a strong debuffer but her debuff is kinda hard to land, is that true, if so i have to run modred all the time then

What debuff do you mean? Ctulhu has 4 debuffs. 1) a-frame attack down, it almost always hits even w/o VoF 2) heart - chance is low even with VoF, but will be a little bit better. 3)aoe nuke + c-frame def debuff - withount VoF chance is around 70-80% generaly, VoF helps a lot 4) steal overdrive orb - chance is less then 50% even with Vof, i guess VoF doesn't work on it at all. So we can see that only skill that has good benefit from VoF is def debuff. If it is enough for you - choose Mordred as soul, otherwice - someone else, like Gawain. Ctulhu+Belphegor+Ambush is very good plan.

Edit:grammar.

[Unregistered]

What debuff do you mean? Ctulhu has 4 debuffs. 1) a-frame attack down, it almost always hits even w/o VoF 2) heart - chance is low even with VoF, but will be a little bit better. 3)aoe nuke + c-frame def debuff - withount VoF chance is around 70-80% generaly, VoF helps a lot 4) steal overdrive orb - chance is less then 50% even with Vof, i guess VoF doesn't work on it at all. So we can see that only skill that has good benefit from VoF is def debuff. If it is enough for you - choose Mordred as soul, otherwice - someone else, like Gawain. Ctulhu+Belphegor+Ambush is very good plan.

Edit:grammar.

2 main debuff i care about is def down and overdrive orb removal, one out of two is good enough for me, because i dont have ryu-oh so i gonna need BP anyway

[Mraktar]

2 main debuff i care about is def down and overdrive orb removal, one out of two is good enough for me, because i dont have ryu-oh so i gonna need BP anyway
BP can be picked as EX skill to other soul if needed.

[MagicSpice]

If you wanted to run full def break, mordred with ambush is good to run with cthulu

[Laventale]

If you wanted to run full def break, mordred with ambush is good to run with cthulu

That's basically all I've been running on my water team due to the lack of himes.

[HugMeTender]

The double SR gacha doesn't seem too bad. Especially since I need more SR for certain missions. Anyone have any input on that gacha?

[Laventale]

The double SR gacha doesn't seem too bad. Especially since I need more SR for certain missions. Anyone have any input on that gacha?

Eh, SSRs are still at 3%, if you lack money and can only pay guaranteeds (Like myself), then don't do it.

[HugMeTender]

Eh, SSRs are still at 3%, if you lack money and can only pay guaranteeds (Like myself), then don't do it.Seems reasonable. Guess it'll let me save up for if another Miracle ticket comes out.

[FreeToPay]

Do we get a lot of holy soul points from crucible event?

[Deus5659]

I got Raiko, Satan, and Ouroboros while rerolling. Is that a good stopping point or should I keep going?

[Laventale]

I got Raiko, Satan, and Ouroboros while rerolling. Is that a good stopping point or should I keep going?

Satan and Ouro are a really good pair, but you should be aiming for either 2 himes of the same element or a 100% eido (this one specially).

[Deus5659]

Satan and Ouro are a really good pair, but you should be aiming for either 2 himes of the same element or a 100% eido (this one specially).

I was under the impression that the 100% eidolons were only in the star coins gachas.

[Laventale]

I was under the impression that the 100% eidolons were only in the star coins gachas.

Nah


welp, whaled trying to get rudra, didn't get anything decent. Opened a single jewel gacha...

http://puu.sh/AppAy/35917b22c4.png

This dude pulled her from a jewel yolo pull.

[Deus5659]

So how often do these miracle tickets come out? Should it be relatively soon?

[BlazeAlter]

So how often do these miracle tickets come out? Should it be relatively soon?

something like every 3-4 months
so the 3rd one might be at late july or early august i think

[Cobblemaniac]

something like every 3-4 months
so the 3rd one might be at late july or early august i think

Well crap, SSR Artemis releases at the end of August... It seems they like to cuck us by releasing their miracle tickets right before a crucial SSR hime is released... 1st didn't have Snow Raphy iirc, 2nd didn't have Cybele and now 3rd.

[BlazeAlter]

Well crap, SSR Artemis releases at the end of August... It seems they like to cuck us by releasing their miracle tickets right before a crucial SSR hime is released... 1st didn't have Snow Raphy iirc, 2nd didn't have Cybele and now 3rd.

well who knows tho? u never know what nutaku might do..
they could either release that 3rd ticket early (why i said late july, basing it off our 2nd ticket and most likely possible perhaps) or maybe a little bit late for some SSRs to join in the miracle ticket pool or something
and since we didn't get that collab advent, shouldnt SSR artemis be released 1 week early? unless we do get that collab event somehow later on (probably not but i m still hoping someday cuz i want my free SR)

[Cobblemaniac]

well who knows tho? u never know what nutaku might do..
they could either release that 3rd ticket early (why i said late july, basing it off our 2nd ticket and most likely possible perhaps) or maybe a little bit late for some SSRs to join in the miracle ticket pool or something
and since we didn't get that collab advent, shouldnt SSR artemis be released 1 week early? unless we do get that collab event somehow later on (probably not but i m still hoping someday cuz i want my free SR)

One week early is still insufficient to cross SSR Artemis into the region of late July, unfortunately. Given the history of miracle tickets so far, Nutaku extending the miracle ticket release just to cover core hime doesn't seem probable.

You seem to really want that A frame def break though...

[BlazeAlter]

One week early is still insufficient to cross SSR Artemis into the region of late July, unfortunately. Given the history of miracle tickets so far, Nutaku extending the miracle ticket release just to cover core hime doesn't seem probable.

You seem to really want that A frame def break though...

I guess that's true...
they really like doing that sort of thing with miracle tickets where some himes were too late to be added to the pool (its almost like they're trolling lol, but I guess it cant be helped)

I really wanted noel for that alone because i dont have tyr awakened and she wouldve made my thunder team better because id rather be on 50atk/45def or 45/45 w/ BP and cyclops rather than 30/50 so im still sad we didnt get that collab

[Slashley]

Do we get a lot of holy soul points from crucible event?Assuming you and your Union clears everything, 300 per event.

That means it'll take you four Union events to get Shingen, and three Union events to get Morgan. There's no way to speed this up.

[MagicSpice]

Assuming you and your Union clears everything, 300 per event.

That means it'll take you four Union events to get Shingen, and three Union events to get Morgan. There's no way to speed this up.

in my case, it's at least 2 no matter what to get shingen, cause i think i have around 10-50 points...

haven't really been in unions that can stay active enough to get more than 60-75% of each list done

[Sora]

Assuming you and your Union clears everything, 300 per event.

That means it'll take you four Union events to get Shingen, and three Union events to get Morgan. There's no way to speed this up.

Bro, it's 200 HSP... and not 300 (anymore)

That means you need 6 Union Events to unlock Shingen.

[Slashley]

Bro, it's 200 HSP... and not 300 (anymore)

That means you need 6 Union Events to unlock Shingen.Holy shit. New players, get fucked.

That's really fucking stupid though. Usually Kamihime has just been making things easier for newer players over time, so increasing something like this to 400 points would be reasonable. Reducing it is just... what.

[Cobblemaniac]

Holy shit. New players, get fucked.

That's really fucking stupid though. Usually Kamihime has just been making things easier for newer players over time, so increasing something like this to 400 points would be reasonable. Reducing it is just... what.

Probably their method to hard counter anyone trying to get on the Arthur PF train...

[BlazeAlter]

Probably their method to hard counter anyone trying to get on the Arthur PF train...

boi am I glad I got on that train just in time... lol

[Delete]

I will not have Shingen on Pride, but will be near enough that it will be easy on the next one, and Lust reprint is not far away. But it is strange that reduction, yes

[HugMeTender]

So I just pulled Poseidon from a 10 jewel pull.. Would she be good to pair with Cthulhu?

[Slashley]

Poseidon is quite meh. She's not bad - particularly against Fire - but she's quite meh. Her Awakening will boost her a bit, again particularly against Fire. But still nothing to hold your breath over, plus that's almost a year away.

I wouldn't use her over Triton and Belphegor, but otherwise, go ahead.

[HugMeTender]

Poseidon is quite meh. She's not bad - particularly against Fire - but she's quite meh. Her Awakening will boost her a bit, again particularly against Fire. But still nothing to hold your breath over, plus that's almost a year away.

I wouldn't use her over Triton and Belphegor, but otherwise, go ahead.I've got a few screens of my water Kami/Eidolon a couple sections back. I can repost if needed (didn't wanna spam). I believe the conclusion back then was that Cthulhu, Nike, Oceanus, and Belphy was the best choice. Is Poseidon a good replacement for Nike?

[Slashley]

I'd keep Nike for heals, and drop Oceanus. The problem with Stun nukers is that... well, first you need to Stun something. And then the fight is already over.

But if you like seeing big numbers (and Stun nukers certainly deliver on that), then I guess Nike would be the one to drop.

[FreeToPay]

Wow so judging by how often crucible events come by, it'll probably be 2019 when I can unlock Shingen. That's brutal. Thanks for the info as always guys/girls.

[Kimoi]

Wow so judging by how often crucible events come by, it'll probably be 2019 when I can unlock Shingen. That's brutal. Thanks for the info as always guys/girls.
Close, you should be able to unlock her around november if you start getting your HSP now.

Just your daily reminder that this game hates newbies.

[Laventale]

Wow so judging by how often crucible events come by, it'll probably be 2019 when I can unlock Shingen. That's brutal. Thanks for the info as always guys/girls.

Having a good, all rounded team with a good grid backing it up takes up to 6/7 months and an unholy amount of luck.

Take that as you will.

[MagicSpice]

Having a good, all rounded team with a good grid backing it up takes up to 6/7 months and an unholy amount of luck.

Take that as you will.

and if you don't want to wait that long, you pretty much have to whale beyond reason (gonna cost a thousand or more easy) then grind the hell out of the SP quests you need... along with farming the gems for upgrades.... but that should come from the massive exp grind on sundays

still gonna take a ton of effort, but if someone does have that kind of money to throw around at once, then it'll cut that 6+ months down to 2 or less

[Mraktar]

I have a problem - when i want to join a union, i see a message "you have been scouted by infernal" instead. I can't accept scout too - it says that i already been scouted. Relog/clearing cache didn't helped. Attempt to join other union didn't helped. Any thougts?

[Laventale]

I have a problem - when i want to join a union, i see a message "you have been scouted by infernal" instead. I can't accept scout too - it says that i already been scouted. Relog/clearing cache didn't helped. Attempt to join other union didn't helped. Any thougts?

Ticket Nutaku for help

[russ]

hey guys i was wondering if their is a cap on affliction rate up? can i stack 1 kami with 3 of these?

[Slashley]

hey guys i was wondering if their is a cap on affliction rate up? can i stack 1 kami with 3 of these?There is supposedly a cap to Accessory stats, but for Affliction, you cannot realistically reach it. For example, I think that for Def up, the cap is a whopping 40%. With our current available slots, the most you can get is 27%.

So, absolutely stack at least 3x Affliction to any Hime who has debuffs.

[Cobblemaniac]

hey guys i was wondering if their is a cap on affliction rate up? can i stack 1 kami with 3 of these?

You can theoretically (although impossibly) stack 9 of these, or 15 when the true ragna raids are released (3 effects per accessory) up to a total affliction rate boost of 15% (if there is no cap?). Good luck getting those accessories though, you'll probably get married before you do.

[russ]

There is supposedly a cap to Accessory stats, but for Affliction, you cannot realistically reach it. For example, I think that for Def up, the cap is a whopping 40%. With our current available slots, the most you can get is 27%.

So, absolutely stack at least 3x Affliction to any Hime who has debuffs.

You can theoretically (although impossibly) stack 9 of these, or 15 when the true ragna raids are released (3 effects per accessory) up to a total affliction rate boost of 15% (if there is no cap?). Good luck getting those accessories though, you'll probably get married before you do.

thanks for the info guys :bgrin:

[HugMeTender]

So I'm currently building up Ouroboros since she has one of the nicer effects in my lineup. Right now she's already level 40 (she has no stars yet). Is it worth leveling up a fodder eidolon (Stacking + stats) so when I LB her I get a huge EXP boost? Or should I always just immediately dump +1 onto my Eidolons?

[Unregistered]

So I'm currently building up Ouroboros since she has one of the nicer effects in my lineup. Right now she's already level 40 (she has no stars yet). Is it worth leveling up a fodder eidolon (Stacking + stats) so when I LB her I get a huge EXP boost? Or should I always just immediately dump +1 onto my Eidolons?

No. give Extra stats to mlb eidolon that have strong stats number not non limit break one

[HugMeTender]

No. give Extra stats to mlb eidolon that have strong stats number not non limit break one

I started like 3 weeks ago, I don't have any MLB lol. I don't even have a 2 star yet.

[AutoCrimson]

ehm...
starting 3 weeks ago and feeding Ouro with +1 ?
shouldnt u do that with Belial/Kirin/Hrae/Rudra?

and what exactly makes u think that you will lb her?

[HugMeTender]

ehm...
starting 3 weeks ago and feeding Ouro with +1 ?
shouldnt u do that with Belial/Kirin/Hrae/Rudra?

and what exactly makes u think that you will lb her?

I haven't started feeding her +1's, just leveling her. That's why I was asking here if I should just stack + on a fodder Eidolon for future use (Especially since I only have 1 star eidolons right now). I also didn't reroll for any of the 100%s because I pulled 3 SSR Kami (And I don't really care for aiming for the absolute objective best, I'm also very aesthetic).

[AutoCrimson]

well, to each his own, i guess

[blubbergott]

I haven't started feeding her +1's, just leveling her. That's why I was asking here if I should just stack + on a fodder Eidolon for future use (Especially since I only have 1 star eidolons right now).

Yup, that's what I'd do. Too bad you didn't manage to max Sphinx or Tiamat, those would've been perfect targets. The next decent looking one would be Adramelech (or whatever she'll be called) from a fire raid early July.

[HugMeTender]

Yup, that's what I'd do. Too bad you didn't manage to max Sphinx or Tiamat, those would've been perfect targets. The next decent looking one would be Adramelech (or whatever she'll be called) from a fire raid early July.

Yeah, I joined during the last couple days of Tiamat. I couldn't manage to farm Sphinx well at all for some reason. Couldn't even beat Expert manually. I was able to manual Vritra Expert so I ended up farming that event as much as I could (which wasn't very much). I'll hopefully be ready for this next one.

[Deus5659]

Are Sol and SSR Tsukuyomi any good?

[HugMeTender]

Are Sol and SSR Tsukuyomi any good?I think Sol is supposed to be OP.

[Slashley]

So is SSR Tsukuyomi. They're both Light cores.

[Laventale]

Are Sol and SSR Tsukuyomi any good?

Yes, both are currently cores of any Light line-up.

[Zefhyr]

Does anyone know the elements of the upcoming Kamihime releases?

We had lightning > light > dark

Anyone know when fire is coming up and which Kamihime are being released, judging from the Japanese release schedule?

[Cobblemaniac]

Does anyone know the elements of the upcoming Kamihime releases?

We had lightning > light > dark

Anyone know when fire is coming up and which Kamihime are being released, judging from the Japanese release schedule?

Slashley here has kindly compiled a list of events, himes and eidolons predicted to release following the DMM-Nutaku schedule difference of a year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479

Most of the data you find here can be dug out from the DMM wiki (link is here http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E7%A5%9E%E5%A7%AB%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3% 82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88%E6%94%BB%E7%95%A5 %E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81wiki), which the only barrier between you and that is reading Japanese/ google translated bs. Do note that Nutaku may release these updates in a different order or date, but otherwise most of the content should remain the same.

[Laventale]

Does anyone know the elements of the upcoming Kamihime releases?

We had lightning > light > dark

Anyone know when fire is coming up and which Kamihime are being released, judging from the Japanese release schedule?

http://puu.sh/AqFKi/7f0f5c5b1e.png

It's gonna be a while but we're gonna get 3 Fire himes soon enough, one of them is limited, tho.

[Slashley]

It's gonna be a while but we're gonna get 3 Fire himes soon enough, one of them is limited, tho.Both Metatron and Ra seem really lackluster, though. That's something that image doesn't tell you, unlike my sheet which tries to~

It's possible for Metatron to be good, but at least when I looked at DMM wiki the Burst+ buff numbers weren't listed, which usually means that people found that Hime bad to use and didn't bother finding out.

Ra can also be good in extremely specific circumstances, namely, if you need more damage output after your Full Burst. You'll usually want a Hime who can dish out damage at all times, though.

Meanwhile, SSR Beelz is absolutely beyond fucking insane. At least in raid content. Assuming said raid content doesn't just outright kill you during your rampage.

[Rattington]

How does the rampage ability work? What is the strategy with it? I recently got SR Dark Beelz but don't use my dark team much and haven't played around with her yet.

[Slashley]

Rampage/Berserk disables skill and burst usage during the duration, but increases your damage output by x%. This is actual %, not something like Atk or Elem buffs which are diminished since you already have Assault and Elem modifiers.

So, if you bring SR Beelz (2t duration, 50% boost, 8 turn CD) into an off-element team, for the first two turns they'll deal 4*1.5 damage = 6 Hime worth of damage. Over the long cooldown, you'll effectively do 36 Hime worth of damage, while bringing four on-element Hime deals 40 Hime worth of damage. This doesn't include Beelz's own damage output since... well... off-element. In other words, don't have a full team? Bring SR Beelz and you'll barely lose any damage output.

SSR Beelz is on a completely different level, though. Her Berserk is FIVE turns long, 50% boost and just SIX turns CD. This means that even off-element, the boost of bringing SSR Beelz is... 34 Hime damage vs. 30 Hime damage. So even bringing her off-element is a DAMAGE GAIN. Imagine how good she'll be when put into a Fire team then, where SSR Beelz herself deals a ton of damage. Furthermore? She has +50% Elem buff for the entire team. Assuming you're running with 90% Elemental Eidolons (currently difficult) and elemental advantage, that's an insane 21% damage boost. Almost Belial level of damage boost (which is ~25%) from her SECONDARY skill alone, and then considering boosting THAT with the FUCKING BERSERK DAMAGE BUFF.

So why is SSR Beelz not 100% bullshit OP? Her downside is... for five (5) turns, you can't use skills. That means no healing, no defensive shields, nothing. Also, you'll lose 10% of your HP every turn from Zeal which she also casts with her Berserk skill. You can offset this in raids with the pot, but FIVE turns is a long time - you'll eat at least one boss Overdrive. The upside is, five turns of Zeal means that you will ALWAYS full burst on the sixth turn. And as somebody who uses Raiko with three turns of Zeal, let me tell you: that is just OP as fuck.

tl;dr; SSR Beelz is absolutely insane for raid content, but probably impossible to use in any other content. She can be a very good buffer even without using her Berserk in single player content, due to her absolutely insanely strong Elemental buff.

[Cobblemaniac]

Well. This is the longest maintenance I've seen yet... except maybe older players might have seen much longer. What's the longest nutaku ever took to fix the game? I've heard some of the crashes took a day to fix and the devs compensated 3k jewels or something :think:

[Delete]

Well, there are many buggs to fix, like the stacking abilities, and many content we wish arrive today.
So, yeah, the wait feels very long, but it have some sense.

[BlazeAlter]

Well. This is the longest maintenance I've seen yet... except maybe older players might have seen much longer. What's the longest nutaku ever took to fix the game? I've heard some of the crashes took a day to fix and the devs compensated 3k jewels or something :think:

I don't mind if they this takes longer than expected, I just hope once its done they wouldve fixed everything and nothing would be broken like last time...

and i guess theyre also ensuring the thing that happened with the previous gluttony reprint wont happen again

[LeCrestfallen]

They are trying to figure out a way to remove the gem gacha without breaking the other new, expensive gachas.

[Cobblemaniac]

They are trying to figure out a way to remove the gem gacha without breaking the other new, expensive gachas.

I dunno, I'm just looking at their twitter right now and they're being bombarded with tons of cancer. Not sure whether they deserve it or I should pity the devs :neutral:

[Slashley]

In part they deserve it, because they haven't finished a maintenance in time in.. in... uh... what? Probably more than six months, really. I could be wrong though.

The rest is their fault, since honestly, they should just learn from their mistakes and announce bigger maintenance windows.

[HugMeTender]

Is it finally time to spend my 3,000 star coins? Is it worth the high risk to try for Sol, or will saving for a Miracle Ticket be best (of course I'll have to add 2k later).

[Slashley]

Cost of RANDOM SSR from random gacha: 200 bucks
Chance of Sol in Sol boosted gacha: 5/52
Average chance of Sol: 2079 bucks (not actually mathed right, but I can't be arsed to bust out sanathlig's calc)

................... except that holy shit, that Sol Exclusive gacha doesn't work like that at all. That's either 200 bucks per Sol or 100 bucks per Sol, depending on are SSR Hime weapons 1.5% or 3% in there. For whales who want to LMB Sol Guns, that's a pretty fucking good deal with no pull limit.

Still, that's 100/200 bucks when compared to 50 bucks. And, there's no guarantee at 100/200 bucks either - you might pay 1000 and not get a single SSR. That's how gambling works.

[HugMeTender]

Cost of RANDOM SSR from random gacha: 200 bucks
Chance of Sol in Sol boosted gacha: 5/52
Average chance of Sol: 2079 bucks (not actually mathed right, but I can't be arsed to bust out sanathlig's calc)

................... except that holy shit, that Sol Exclusive gacha doesn't work like that at all. That's either 200 bucks per Sol or 100 bucks per Sol, depending on are SSR Hime weapons 1.5% or 3% in there. For whales who want to LMB Sol Guns, that's a pretty fucking good deal with no pull limit.

Still, that's 100/200 bucks when compared to 50 bucks. And, there's no guarantee at 100/200 bucks either - you might pay 1000 and not get a single SSR. That's how gambling works.That sounds like a no :D guess I'd have to be super lucky to get her in only 1 go.

[Cobblemaniac]

10163

10164

Just dropping in to say...

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE

[Unregistered]

Reminder that AW Sol should get Dark Resist+ on burst, which doesn't happen - and report it.

[Cobblemaniac]

Reminder that AW Sol should get Dark Resist+ on burst, which doesn't happen - and report it.

The relief point is that there's not much going on for dark right now, I don't remember future events being dark, dark ragna is ages away, and the only tough thing is dark AQ4. Well, not excusing that they missed this, but I don't see it as a big deal... for now.

[Unregistered]

The relief point is that there's not much going on for dark right now, I don't remember future events being dark, dark ragna is ages away, and the only tough thing is dark AQ4. Well, not excusing that they missed this, but I don't see it as a big deal... for now.

While true, I'd rather get an answer from Nutaku regarding it. Their recent "Nutaku is original content do not steal" post made me think that they will leave this feature out of the game, simply because "we're not DMM". And if this goes by, it may affect future other himes with burst effects.

[Slashley]

While true, I'd rather get an answer from Nutaku regarding it. Their recent "Nutaku is original content do not steal" post made me think that they will leave this feature out of the game, simply because "we're not DMM". And if this goes by, it may affect future other himes with burst effects.Source on this?

[Cobblemaniac]

While true, I'd rather get an answer from Nutaku regarding it. Their recent "Nutaku is original content do not steal" post made me think that they will leave this feature out of the game, simply because "we're not DMM". And if this goes by, it may affect future other himes with burst effects.

Well. I change my stance. It appears Sol's burst effect not applying was not the issue, but apparently the update broke all forms of elemental resist. I've noticed Reiki's fire resist doesn't apply as well, so I would assume it to be the same for a lot of other similar skills (Gaia's thunder res, Kyuki etc). That 6 hour maintenance wasn't perfect lol.

Edit: Also, paging Slashley, although don't mind me if it's pointless, but A Sol's heal buff (well, buffs. She casts 2 of those) gives a 50% heal boost, which I also confirmed in the DMM wiki. Each buff should theoretically give 25% heal, although I'd need to come across an enemy that cleanses buffs to confirm.

[Unregistered]

Source on this?
Can't find the post (someone else might be able to direct you) - but it's related to a certain ticket someone sent to Nutaku regarding the free weapon/eidolon expansions that we didn't get (whilst DMM did). Their reply was among the lines of "Nutaku Kamihime is their own original version, that doesn't follow DMM". Probably just a convenient excuse in the long run.


Well. I change my stance. It appears Sol's burst effect not applying was not the issue, but apparently the update broke all forms of elemental resist.
Susanoo's and L. Tsukuyomi's light/dark resist up seem to work fine. At least, they apply the buff, haven't tested if they lower the damage.

[Slashley]

Edit: Also, paging Slashley, although don't mind me if it's pointless, but A Sol's heal buff (well, buffs. She casts 2 of those) gives a 50% heal boost, which I also confirmed in the DMM wiki. Each buff should theoretically give 25% heal, although I'd need to come across an enemy that cleanses buffs to confirm.Oh, right, I entirely forgot that I had that ? in Sol's Awakening. Cheers.

Anyway, it looks like the two buffs are +50% heal limit up (which matters) and +50% healing done (which doesn't matter, since everyone hits heal limit cap anyway). I'll not even bother mentioning the other one.
Susanoo's and L. Tsukuyomi's light/dark resist up seem to work fine. At least, they apply the buff, haven't tested if they lower the damage.Those aren't partywide though, while Cobble's list was all party wide elemental resistance buffs. Like Sol's is.

[Unregistered]

Those aren't partywide though, while Cobble's list was all party wide elemental resistance buffs. Like Sol's is.

Asked an union mate to try out his AW Gaia for this, seems to work just fine. Maybe it's limited to eidolon effects?

[Bear]

They most likely fucked up the weapon + burst + summon active frame (these all share the same frame).

[Cobblemaniac]

They most likely fucked up the weapon + burst + summon active frame (these all share the same frame).

The strange thing is that a couple of eidolon frame buffs work fine for me, most notably(?) the triple atk buff from Vritria's sword and Icarus's buff, which leads me to believe only the element resist ones were affected on eidolon frame. Oh well, it's bedtime for me so I can't test it, but either way, ticket it is.

[MagicSpice]

far as i know, jack o'lantern, Meng huo, and fafnir are working fine for me... they're all eidolons giving buffs..

haven't tried ixion and tiamat though...

and if elemental effects are the real issue, then kyuki and rahab shouldn't work either

[VeryVoodoo]

Weapon burst frames seem to be working fine too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[HugMeTender]

So what do these grail things even do? They have light element so.. Is it just for skilling weapons? Might as well just pull an ass-ton of gem gacha for that.

[Dunhere]

So what do these grail things even do? They have light element so.. Is it just for skilling weapons? Might as well just pull an ass-ton of gem gacha for that.

They are for increasing weapon skill, and can greatly amplify the effect of that ass-ton of gem gacha pulling.

[HugMeTender]

They are for increasing weapon skill, and can greatly amplify the effect of that ass-ton of gem gacha pulling.I see. Well unfortunately virtually all my weapons are defender so I'm boned anyway, lol. I've got a single SSR light arcane that has both assault and defender.

[HugMeTender]

Huh. Those demon battles go from "I could do this with 2 Kamihime" to "Did I die the first rage?" pretty quick.

[Laventale]

Huh. Those demon battles go from "I could do this with 2 Kamihime" to "Did I die the first rage?" pretty quick.

Yep, happened the same to me.

[HugMeTender]

I really need to find a chat, I'm spamming this thread with questions *__*

Is it even worth leveling an SR weapon? Take the SR gun from this event for example. I mean, it's nice cause you can break it, but does that automatically make it worthwhile?

[Laventale]

I really need to find a chat, I'm spamming this thread with questions *__*

Is it even worth leveling an SR weapon? Take the SR gun from this event for example. I mean, it's nice cause you can break it, but does that automatically make it worthwhile?

In case your grid is not filled with SSRs, it's always worth to level up Attacker SR weapons.

http://puu.sh/ArbrB/fce280c182.png

This is the best example I can give you.

[Aidoru]

I really need to find a chat, I'm spamming this thread with questions *__*

Is it even worth leveling an SR weapon? Take the SR gun from this event for example. I mean, it's nice cause you can break it, but does that automatically make it worthwhile?

If the SR weapon isn't assault, do not bother with using it unless you literally don't have anything better at the moment. It's just fodder to skill level more important weapons.

[MagicSpice]

Yep, happened the same to me.


Huh. Those demon battles go from "I could do this with 2 Kamihime" to "Did I die the first rage?" pretty quick.

that's what happens when it starts leveling up....

so just imagine those unions where demons start getting into lv300+... and i mean on ultimate, not expert (although i'm sure they're getting expert 3 times as higher level as the ultimate fights)

[HugMeTender]

that's what happens when it starts leveling up....

so just imagine those unions where demons start getting into lv300+... and i mean on ultimate, not expert (although i'm sure they're getting expert 3 times as higher level as the ultimate fights)Level 300 ultimate... Sheesh..

[Cobblemaniac]

Level 300 ultimate... Sheesh..

Well, I see it being doable with all 30 union members being active... of course only the whalest of the whalest group of people (or the no lifest of the no lifest of them) can manage that...

The time some people have

[Bear]

There exist a thing called... 'para train'

[MagicSpice]

there's also a thing called burst time and high assault values...

i can do roughly 50k per hit with my dark team and they're only at about 23% assault now... (although i'm hitting the def drop cap of 50% now)

i'm sure others on here packing grids with 5 times as much assault can pull it off if they were grouped together... whale tactics or not...

[HugMeTender]

It's time for another episode of "I don't know what the fudge I'm doing!"

So much to my misfortune, most of my SSR are defender. My question at this point (my best element is water if that matters, you guys helped me decide that earlier) should I skill up SR water weapons with assault since the only other option is defender? I mean, I have the bow from Tiamat, but I barely started during that even so it's not even broken once. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/447dab96e71c5c46d698552333b96389.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/4abad1aab1915506735f7b14968b07fc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/17f038f6ee5b4e9cd2e993145255756d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/f91f284af00fb72036598854520ed896.jpg

[Cobblemaniac]

All the images

SR disaster assaults are your only way out, although look out for Illuyanka's weapons coming pretty soon.

Edit: And I saw Laventale's post after I posted. Take that advice too, Tiamat's bow helps in your line up until you get enough MLB disaster assaults to replace the bow. Just note that an MLB assault gives better stats overall than a 0LB SSR assault.

[Laventale]

Wall of text and images.

Tiamat's bow is Attacker (++), so leveling that one would do wonders for your line-up.

Gaia's hammer is also attacker as well, but since you were asking about your water grid...

[HugMeTender]

Tiamat's bow is Attacker (++), so leveling that one would do wonders for your line-up.

Gaia's hammer is also attacker as well, but since you were asking about your water grid...You should have all the rep on this site. Always answering so fast *__*

[HugMeTender]

So those coins I was sitting on.. I gave in, I wanted Sol so bad.. So I did it.. I'm in shock. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/80d6b4ec99b1121f64373c11343c89b0.jpg

[Slashley]

Congrats.

Just remember not to gamble with money you can't afford to lose.

[HugMeTender]

Congrats.

Just remember not to gamble with money you can't afford to lose.I don't think I'm spending any more money on the game other than maybe miracle tickets. You can pull 100% Eidolon with those right? Otherwise I don't really want anything super bad anymore. #EstheticsOnly

Or maybe a gacha that guaranteed all the mats to MLB a SSR lol.

[BlazeAlter]

I don't think I'm spending any more money on the game other than maybe miracle tickets. You can pull 100% Eidolon with those right? Otherwise I don't really want anything super bad anymore. #EstheticsOnly

Or maybe a gacha that guaranteed all the mats to MLB a SSR lol.

uh no, i dont think you can pick 100% eidos with a miracle ticket

...unless u were referring to those "special 150 dragon eyes" miracle ticket version which lets you pull anything u want apparently lol

[Slashley]

I don't think I'm spending any more money on the game other than maybe miracle tickets. You can pull 100% Eidolon with those right? --No. Eidolons will be available from the next Miracle Ticket, but not the P2W ones.

DMM has a P2W Eidolon Miracle Ticket, but it's not (directly) for sale for money. It costs 150 Dragon Eyes or something like that. So basically 15k bucks from Exclusive gacha (assuming it works as advertised which I have little faith in) or 30k bucks generally.
Or maybe a gacha that guaranteed all the mats to MLB a SSR lol.Ummm, not sure what do you mean.

Kamihime mats? The closest thing we've had is 30 bucks for 1x SR book and 1x SSR book, so 150 bucks for the SSR books of one Hime. Not worth it.
Weapon/Eidolon limit break mats? The closest thing we've had was the New Year's gacha which gave you 1x SSR weapon limit breaker and 1x SSR Eidolon limit breaker items. Those things usually cost 20 Dragon Eyes each. That gacha was 100 bucks.

[HugMeTender]

uh no, i dont think you can pick 100% eidos with a miracle ticket

...unless u were referring to those "special 150 dragon eyes" miracle ticket version which lets you pull anything u want apparently lolOh really? I haven't been around for a Miracle Ticket release so I know nothing about them. I was under the impression that they let you pick any single Hime or Eidolon.

No wonder it seemed too OP in my mind, lol.

[HugMeTender]

Oh I was teasing about the materials thing, that would be too good to be true. (or stupidly expensive as you pointed out with the book thingy).
No. Eidolons will be available from the next Miracle Ticket, but not the P2W ones.

DMM has a P2W Eidolon Miracle Ticket, but it's not (directly) for sale for money. It costs 150 Dragon Eyes or something like that. So basically 15k bucks from Exclusive gacha (assuming it works as advertised which I have little faith in) or 30k bucks generally.Ummm, not sure what do you mean.

Kamihime mats? The closest thing we've had is 30 bucks for 1x SR book and 1x SSR book, so 150 bucks for the SSR books of one Hime. Not worth it.
Weapon/Eidolon limit break mats? The closest thing we've had was the New Year's gacha which gave you 1x SSR weapon limit breaker and 1x SSR Eidolon limit breaker items. Those things usually cost 20 Dragon Eyes each. That gacha was 100 bucks.

[Nix]

Is there a reason why the aplly buff button is greyed out? Cant use any grails..

[Slashley]

It means you're not Union leader, Sub-leader or Officer. Or your Union already has 400 Grails set today, I forget does that disable that button as well.

[Laventale]

It means you're not Union leader, Sub-leader or Officer. Or your Union already has 400 Grails set today, I forget does that disable that button as well.

Pretty much.

http://puu.sh/ArCRb/1ae557163c.png

[Nix]

Makes sense im only a member! Ty for the reply!

[MagicSpice]

Pretty much.

http://puu.sh/ArCRb/1ae557163c.png

no triple?

also, when the boss starts nuking you really hard, i feel like recovery doesn't even matter anymore. when you start dropping from 16k to 2k off one nuke i feel like the only thing helping you at that point is revives and super potions... i'd still put 50 in it but i feel like anything past that is a waste

also, i thought burst sucked? i kept hearing left and right that burst isn't worth it cause it just pushes the multiplier by 150% (in the case of SSR, that's 5x to 6.5x)

[BlazeAlter]

also, when the boss starts nuking you really hard, i feel like recovery doesn't even matter anymore. when you start dropping from 16k to 2k off one nuke i feel like the only thing helping you at that point is revives and super potions... i'd still put 50 in it but i feel like anything past that is a waste


16k to 2k? at what level does an expert demon hit that hard? lol

[MagicSpice]

16k to 2k? at what level does an expert demon hit that hard? lol

actually, i'm talking ultimate... and one unlucky raging burst from the boss can have them send a kami that low at about lv25.... we're talking 9 hits of about 1.2k (-20% atk and no defenses).


but expert can do so too if you're killing hundreds in a day... cause they are set up to have more HP and do more damage each time they're killed (it's just exponentially faster on ultimate compared to expert).

in fact, i started seeing my HP (roughly 15k-16k on my dark team) take a sharp dive around lv45 ultimate fights.... that's the point where i might need a heal or two if i solo, or need to stick to burst time

[BlazeAlter]

well.. ultimate is ultimate (something like.. 10 times stronger than an expert? like lvl 10 expert is equivalent to lvl 1 ultimate), and in my union im mostly in charge of generating pp from expert...

[Slashley]

no triple?If you want more damage output, max double first.

We don't know for sure, but we assume that 100 dbl/trpl buff doubles the chance of doing that stuff. Because base double is 8% and triple is 3%, it is assumed that double is better than triple (since 16% double is stronger than 6% triple). Nobody has bothered checking though.
also, i thought burst sucked? i kept hearing left and right that burst isn't worth it cause it just pushes the multiplier by 150% (in the case of SSR, that's 5x to 6.5x)Correct.
Still, many use it just for Burst Hour shenanigans. If you want to push during 2/24 hours, then Burst is still the best stat after Atk. That said, even then you probably shouldn't use past 66/67, since that's where you hit the cap with Provisional Forest.

So, for damage output:
Atk > burst (for Burst Hour only, and drops in significance at high Demon levels) > dbl > trpl > burst

[Laventale]

no triple?

also, when the boss starts nuking you really hard, i feel like recovery doesn't even matter anymore. when you start dropping from 16k to 2k off one nuke i feel like the only thing helping you at that point is revives and super potions... i'd still put 50 in it but i feel like anything past that is a waste

also, i thought burst sucked? i kept hearing left and right that burst isn't worth it cause it just pushes the multiplier by 150% (in the case of SSR, that's 5x to 6.5x)

Someone on my guild fucked up.

[HugMeTender]

So I'm in an interesting position. Trying to decide between light and water.

Currently, my main element is water because of my Himes and Eidolons. However most of my water weapons are defender (I have an SSR no LB that's assault and a SR 2 stars).

However with pulling Sol, my light is a lot stronger since I have: Sol, Shamash, Artemis, and Diana (they seem like they'd have decent synergy, though little debuff to speak of). As well as several multiple break as well as assault weapons for Light. I'll also have a near max or max LB Eidolon from this event (which is much better than my current 1 star Eidolons. I don't have a single 2 star yet).

I can post pictures, let me know.

This is also important because I now have 5 silver books and could MLB a SR. need to know who.

[MagicSpice]

mainly need to know your hime (especially SSR ones) for both light and water to get a good idea of where you stand... <br />
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but from what you said, your light team is on their way, but could use some...