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Eab1990
04-06-2017, 07:46 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164720104863563776/299537604833968138/unknown.png

Despite the Herbaceous Peony, I think it's a random single roll for steps 3 and 4.

But who cares about that, steps 1 and 2 are a bargain.

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1. Ticket #1 (7/01 - 7/08): Anemone / Cactace / Cattleya / Dendrobium
2. Step-Up #1 (8/05 - 8/12): Random (up to and including Daisy)
3. Ticket #2 (8/12 - 8/19): Fritillaria / Sakura / Mei Plumblossom
4. Step-Up #2 (9/02 - 9/09): Kerria
5. Ticket #3 (9/08 - 9/17): Alpinia / Anemone / Flowering Peach (player-voted)
6. Step-Up #3 (9/15 - 9/22): (Bridal) Cactace, $110 total
7. Ticket #4 (9/29 - 10/06): Cherry / Daisy / Dianthus
8. Step-Up #4 (10/06 - 10/13): Dogwood + ten $5 bonus steps for possible rainbow skill/dressbloom
9. Step-Up #5 (10/13 - 10/20): Black Baccara
10. Ticket #5 (10/20 - 10/27): Dendrobium / Ionocidium / Fritillaria
11. 5* Step-Up #1 (10/27 - 11/3): Four steps, $66 total, 1-2 random golds + a choice of any gold (prior to Lantana / Apple of Sodom)
12. Bridal Oncidium FG gacha (11/3 - 11/10): 10+1 FG roll guaranteed gold special, 20% chance vs. 80% random gold
13. Sakura early Black Friday (11/10 - 11/17): Sakura only, $30 single-roll
14. 5* Ticket #1 (11/17 - 11/24): Single roll, $30 each (up to three times), pick any gold (prior to Epidendrum / Snapdragon)
15. Black Friday ticket special (11/25 - 11/28): $10 11-roll, pick any rainbow except Lycoris / Bridal Oncidium
16. Step-Up #6 (12/2 - 12/9): Lycoris + $30 rainbow skill/dressbloom
17. Step-Up #7 (12/15 - 12/22): Christmas Rose + three steps, 1x secret gift each, NO guaranteed golds
18. Apple/Ivy early Christmas special (12/22 - 12/29): Apple/Ivy only, $30 each
19. New Year's Step-Up (12/30/16 - 1/6/17): Three 11-roll steps, step 1 ($100): regular rates, step 2 ($50): 5* and 6* only (95%/5%), step 3 ($30): 5* and 6* only (90%/10%)
20. Ardisia New Year (1/5 - 1/12): Ardisia only, 25% off ($45), free rainbow skill+dressbloom
21. Nutaku 2nd anniversary (1/13 - 1/16): $30 11-roll, pick one of the five launch rainbows (Black Baccara, Alpinia, Cactace, Mei Plumblossom, Sakura)
22. Step-Up #8 (1/19 - 1/26): Victoria only, step 1 ($45) = single roll (standard rates) + rainbow skill/dressbloom, step 2 ($15) = Victoria
23. Developer's Ticket, part 1 (1/26 - 2/2): $30 11-roll, choose from Evening Primrose, Setaria, Rose, or Violet
24. Developer's Ticket, part 2 (2/2 - 2/9): $50 11-roll, choose from Kerria, Dianthus, Alpinia, or Cattleya
25. Step-Up #9 (2/9 - 2/16): $75 six steps, 1-2 random 5* + gold skillbloom and 1 6* + rainbow skill/dressbloom at the end
26. Valentine's Gacha (2/14 - 2/16): $30 single roll, choose any rainbow (up to and including Helenium)
27. Maple FG Gacha (2/16 - 2/23): 10+1 FG roll guaranteed gold special, 20% chance vs. 80% random gold
28. Random Step-Up #10 (2/23 - 3/2): Five steps, $48, 1 gold + skillbloom, 1 gold + skill/dressbloom, 1 rainbow + dressbloom
29. Spring Break Cleaning Gacha (3/2 - 3/9): Three 11-roll steps, $70/$50/$30, first step contains 4*-6* (82%/16.5%/1.5%), step 2 contains 5*-6* (95%/5%), step 3 contains 5*-6* (90%/10%)
30. Late Christmas Step-Up Gacha (3/9 - 3/16): Four steps, step 1: $5 11-roll (standard rates), step 2 + 3: $25 Apple or Ivy (no dupes), step 4: $40 Mistletoe
31. "One Time Only" Step-Up Gacha (3/16 - 3/23): Five steps, steps 1-3: $9 total, single roll (standard rates), step 4 + 5: $1/$3 for random 5*
32. Ticket #6 (3/30 - 4/6): $60, 11-roll + 6* exchange ticket (all rainbows up to Mistletoe)
33. Random Step-Up #11 (4/6 - 4/13): Step 1+2 (11-roll, standard rates, $8 total), step 3 ($20, random 5*), step 4 ($30, random 6*), step 5 ($15, 50% gold skillbloom or dressbloom), step 6 ($25, 50% rainbow skillbloom or dressbloom)

twilightdream
04-06-2017, 08:05 AM
So the last 2 step is nothing more then skill bloom and dress bloom with no guarantee what you will get...
Is this risky?

Drip
04-06-2017, 08:13 AM
So the last 2 step is nothing more then skill bloom and dress bloom with no guarantee what you will get...
Is this risky?
Yes, not to mention that step 5 is a GOLD bloom. If it were a Rainbow bloom, it would be an okay price, but for gold? I don't think it is. If step 5 and 6 were guaranteed dress blooms it would be a better deal, though I do think 1,500 would be a better value for a rainbow dress bloom.
Step 3 also isn't that great a deal, it's basically the paywall to get to step 4 if you're okay with about any rainbow knight.

smr
04-06-2017, 08:15 AM
any random rainbow knight except Dogwood is good.

Maladaptive
04-06-2017, 08:19 AM
Pffft, 4 silver first draw, 6 silver over two draws, no golds :(

Unregistered
04-06-2017, 08:25 AM
Yet another rich man's gacha. Meh...... :rolleyes:

Next!

Drip
04-06-2017, 08:26 AM
any random rainbow knight except Dogwood is good.
I bet that deep in your heart you're actually a big Dogwood fan, hoping your pretence of disliking her will sometime result in 11 Dogwoods on a premium pull.

Eab1990
04-06-2017, 09:22 AM
I don't know why you guys focus on the latter steps when you should only be looking at the first two.

Eab1990
04-06-2017, 09:33 AM
And how many FKG players will do exactly that? Right...

A lot?

I feel like you're either overestimating the number of whales, or underestimating the number of sensible spenders.

This is hardly the first gacha where going part-way was the better deal as opposed to going all the way.

Eab1990
04-06-2017, 10:06 AM
But they will get lured to step 3 & 4 if their 10+1 pulls are shitty. And those guarantee that you'll get atleast 1 5 star and 1 6 star...

Except no?

That's heavy gambler's fallacy speaking.

As far as getting good value out of your spending, then objectively speaking, steps 1 and 2 are a bargain simply because a normal 11-pull would run you ~$50 vs. $3/$5.

Anyone who wanted to roll would obviously jump on that. If they get burned by it, they obviously don't lose as much money, so they'll shrug and call it a day.

If they were shooting for better results, they would've jumped on the previous deal, or wait for one where they could pick their own gold.

Even previous step-up gachas had $10 steps for a guaranteed gold, not $20. It makes more sense to wait for those.

Again, I'm thinking you're overestimating how impulsive some people are, or generalizing the whale population as "anyone who spends, period".

I mean, fuck, if I got bad NG rolls, I'd sooner use my FGs than spend more cash.

wolf
04-06-2017, 10:15 AM
I bet that deep in your heart you're actually a big Dogwood fan, hoping your pretence of disliking her will sometime result in 11 Dogwoods on a premium pull.

i had to lol at that one xD

sniddy
04-06-2017, 11:47 AM
Me - Stage ones a gift stage 2 is fairly well priced - stage 3+ Im out

Stage 2 - it was a trap

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Now I'm off to the hospital to treat the large BURN this game just gave me

Stage 1 - 1 gold a dupe...apple of sodom so OK

BlakLanner
04-06-2017, 11:59 AM
Only got one gold, a dupe of a character that I already have maxed out, out of the first two sets. I would be nuts to go further. I don't mind spending a few bucks for the early pulls but there had better be something really special guaranteed if you expect people like me to go further in step gachas like this.

Saberborn
04-06-2017, 03:39 PM
Anyone feel they lowered the drop rates or maybe they brought them back to normal? Or is normal 11 draws with flower gems still feel the same? I'm not wasting money on these shitty rates.

Eab1990
04-06-2017, 04:18 PM
I've been pulling golds like crazy lately (with the exception of last week's ticket gacha that gave me silvers).

Tons of dupes, but lots of golds nonetheless. If anything, I'd say they raised the rates, but I'll just go ahead and say it's the same 6% as it always is.

On that note, my steps 1 and 2 produced a gold each.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205665210630012930/299665631006162944/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205665210630012930/299668992522715137/unknown.png

I'm not sure why I was given four Sweetpeas and two Dandelions, but eh, I'll take the smugloli.

damdamon
04-06-2017, 06:25 PM
Waaahhhhhhh!!! Is 5 star that rare??? I Wanna cry! It used to be 50 FG for 11 rolls! Now it is just 300 NG! You don't know how hard it is for newbies like me to gather 50 FGs! Waaahhh! This gacha Step 1 and 2 is made in heaven!

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Rampage
04-06-2017, 07:38 PM
Waaahhhhhhh!!! Is 5 star that rare??? I Wanna cry! It used to be 50 FG for 11 rolls! Now it is just 300 NG! You don't know how hard it is for newbies like me to gather 50 FGs! Waaahhh! This gacha Step 1 and 2 is made in heaven!

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That is a very nice 10+1 roll, congrats

damdamon
04-06-2017, 08:01 PM
That is a very nice 10+1 roll, congrats
thanks, wrong upload though! that was my hard work!
for 300 NG! finally got Queen of the Night ! Lol! I so wanna get her!

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Bloodsport Bloom
04-06-2017, 09:09 PM
Waaahhhhhhh!!! Is 5 star that rare??? I Wanna cry! It used to be 50 FG for 11 rolls! Now it is just 300 NG! You don't know how hard it is for newbies like me to gather 50 FGs! Waaahhh! This gacha Step 1 and 2 is made in heaven!

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That's a great roll, congrats Damdamon! May your luck keep running strong my friend. :)

wolf
04-06-2017, 10:39 PM
Waaahhhhhhh!!! Is 5 star that rare??? I Wanna cry! It used to be 50 FG for 11 rolls! Now it is just 300 NG! You don't know how hard it is for newbies like me to gather 50 FGs! Waaahhh! This gacha Step 1 and 2 is made in heaven!

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whoa nice gratz on a great pull

smr
04-06-2017, 10:56 PM
Bipinna Cosmos and Dendrobium from steps 3 and 4, both dupes. Dendrobium was probably the best dupe to get apart from Dianthus, Lycoris, Ionocidium, Victoria or Black Baccara, although Alpinia would've been the best to get.

sniddy
04-06-2017, 11:56 PM
Waaahhhhhhh!!! Is 5 star that rare??? I Wanna cry! It used to be 50 FG for 11 rolls! Now it is just 300 NG! You don't know how hard it is for newbies like me to gather 50 FGs! Waaahhh! This gacha Step 1 and 2 is made in heaven!



That's an awesome pull, 5* ares 6% so you've got fair odds of getting 1 per 50 pull

They trickle in and you get the odd 2/3+ on lucky pull

This step up is new, probably testing the waters on minnow pulls, putting two cheap but awesome steps in, to see how many people 'bite'

flower gems, you get a little over 1 a day, 6 from the weekly event 1 every 5 days from the log in....including odd throw ins you'll pull a 50 gach every 6 or so weeks....in which time 6 golds and 3 rainbows are added to the pool....if you're not a whale you will never catch them all -but as time goese on you'll get event girls (weaker generally 5* girls but with 4 slots) and then eventually more and more 5* girls - then you'll reach my point where you have 57 5* girls, including all 24 event girls + 4 dupe event girls & 1 dupe 5 star)- so 29 gacha girls

That's with VERY minimal spending ($1 spins every 2 weeks + black friday + 1 chose your 6* + these 2 steps) but nearing 350 days playing

Girls come easier then you think (buh-dum-tish) what you end up wanting is dupes, I'd be over the moon to see 2 more roses drop or extra peaches, Orchids etc - as unlocking an extra slot is a wonderful thing

Zandel
04-07-2017, 12:33 AM
I went for step 1 and 2 of this... Got 1 gold per pull and each was a new girl for me. I think as long as you get something new you are always winning so I'm happy.

Got Scarlet Tulip (http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Flower-Knight-Girl/FKG:Scarlet-Tulip) and Snapdragon (http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Flower-Knight-Girl/FKG:Snapdragon).

So I thought to myself after posting this i'll do my 2 100g YOLO Pulls just to see how it goes.... 1st was 3* as expected but the second....

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This is my 1st 6* from Gatcha at the normal .5% chance. The others I bought 3 directly and got one from the 20%(?) chance ticket.

Myrdin
04-07-2017, 12:37 PM
Since it was fairly cheap I decided to go for it. The first two steps. Needless to say, bunch of bronze and a couple of silver. Yeah fuck you. Now I remember why I decided not to spend cash on this game anymore.

Taon
04-07-2017, 06:02 PM
As I said in the DMM thread, it's disgusting that 3*s are even in the premium gacha since they can be obtained easily from the free gacha. Premium should be just 4-6.

sniddy
04-08-2017, 02:08 AM
I'd say the 5* odds need to be improved to at least 11% - that's still about a 27% chance not to get one on an 11 pull vs the current 50/50 roughly

I don't mind 6*'s being unicorns, but I'd rather expect a 5* vs taking the horrid 50/50 chance

3* are fillers, and annoying ones, heck within a year 4 stars are pretty much fillers - I have a few with a skill or 2 to up.

Zandel
04-09-2017, 05:12 PM
I'd say the 5* odds need to be improved to at least 11% - that's still about a 27% chance not to get one on an 11 pull vs the current 50/50 roughly

I don't mind 6*'s being unicorns, but I'd rather expect a 5* vs taking the horrid 50/50 chance

3* are fillers, and annoying ones, heck within a year 4 stars are pretty much fillers - I have a few with a skill or 2 to up.

I think the easiest way to make the gatcha fair and fun for all would be the following:

Keep the current % or possibly make 6* 1% instead of .5 but when someone rolls a 10+1 roll make that +1 a 5* every time. Sure you loose 1 chance at a 6* but at the same time you get some real value from each pull and you will never really feel like the 50 gems were wasted (unless you get a dupe that you have had 10 times before, but it should be rare still).

sniddy
04-09-2017, 11:41 PM
Guaranteed one 5* almost feels too pokey and 6*s should be rare, I just think it's a little too unfair as it's painful to only see a silver/bronze pot far too often

Myrdin
04-10-2017, 03:22 AM
I agree with the fact that with the PAID (Nutaku G.) gacha, the 3* should be excluded from.
It pisses me off when I buy some gold after long time to give it a go and both 11 pulls consist solely from Bronze/Silver girls.
But I dont wanna waste energy on this anymore. Next time I decide to spent money on this game again, will be only if there is a sure deal like Black Friday 10 bucks for a 6* or such.

Bloodsport Bloom
04-11-2017, 02:46 PM
Welp, took a whack at the first two stages. Rolled terribly on the second roll but on the first I got this.

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That makes a 6 Star in Magic, Slice and Hit. Almost got a full set.

Rampage
04-11-2017, 07:20 PM
Whaled it for four rolls
1st was nothing special, a few 4*
2nd was the attached picture, but to sum it up got new Kale and New Violet
3rd was Ivy (i think)
4th Was Duplicate Mei (Which i am happy for as although she not busty, she's a 6* and was trialling my attempt to level a knight with nothing but Ampies to see if i can cap out at 70 evolved with out "wasting" ampies experiance, so far, not capped out any 62/70.

Will post picture in revelant post, also did IMO a awesome 50 FG roll on the current Priority Gacha and got New Acacia, New Poppy and Dup Gardenia. Was hoping for one of the new girls, was stoked for Acacia.
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fghk0
04-12-2017, 08:53 AM
Perhaps after the end of the event ... you will see peony appear in special gacha, hope peony has been kept in the top three.

If you can, I am very much hope that Acacia in the top three. This special gacha may appear her.:)