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Diesirae
05-11-2017, 05:17 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/imigxh.png (https://www.nutaku.net/games/crystal-maidens/)

So I saw this game pop up yesterday in the top of the Nutaku homepage and read the news post about it.
Would have started a thread earlier, but I wasn't qualified to post links yet and now I am so huzzah.

Hearing the name you would think Dota is coming to Nutaku but it's surprisingly something else; It seems interesting enough though. Apparently it was announced in early April but nothing was really shown except for the information on their blog. But now there are actual screenshots and a trailer so let's see.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDcvHbQvYvs
April Blogpost: https://www.nutaku.net/blog/crystal-maidens-is-coming-soon/


So it should be a brand new game from what I understand.
The art style has a certain appeal. I find it more pleasant than Sweet State or Big Bang's style in any case.
Combat seems to run smooth and not chugging like Shooting Girls did.
Though I wonder if it gets tedious quick if you have to do it hundred times over per session.
UI looks pretty standard; so it should be rather intuitive.

Besides the combat it seems pretty similar to other Nutaku games in terms of mechanics/progression.

I mean it's nice to see something different, but my biggest concern is if and how it will keep itself interesting enough to keep playing. Unless the real-time strategy combat system is really that much enjoyable in itself. Nevertheless, I'll definitely give it a whirl and I don't see why anyone wouldn't at least check it daily to get those pre-register rewards if you do intend to pick it up yourself.

Opinions?

Unregistered
05-11-2017, 08:55 AM
Not at ALL what i was expecting (and thank god too!), but it actually looks really interesting. I might have to try it out and see whats up!

TiamatRoar
05-11-2017, 09:29 AM
Well, the art style is unique (in a good way) at least.

Hopefully (in addition to the basics like fun gameplay) you'll be able to use lots of characters at once in large scale battles (to give a reason to collect so many different characters) and the town building is robust for more rat pellet potential.

Diesirae
05-12-2017, 03:11 AM
Well, the art style is unique (in a good way) at least.

Hopefully (in addition to the basics like fun gameplay) you'll be able to use lots of characters at once in large scale battles (to give a reason to collect so many different characters) and the town building is robust for more rat pellet potential.

From the looks of the combat UI you'd think it's 4 characters only.. but there are clearly more than 4 characters with green health bars on the screen in some of the scenes so I don't know. I'm just hoping it's not too tedious to evolve characters and acquire the mats/chars for it.

Myrdin
05-12-2017, 09:29 AM
Will give it a try for a change, since the non anime art style will freshen things up a bit.
If the game will be interesting enough to stick with it, is another question completely

Unregistered
05-27-2017, 09:32 AM
Any news about this game?

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Nope, as always we will have to wait quite a while for nutaku to reveal anything

Draghorn
05-27-2017, 01:45 PM
Only news that I've heard is that this game and Attack on Moe will launch sometime in June, according to a Nutaku blog post about pre-registering for the games.

And I'm guessing Girls on Tanks will launch globally sometime after these two games. (They have a global pre-reg for it going, so it has to launch globally at some point.)

So if anyone use the word "news", that gets turned into a link to the wiki news section of X-Overd? It is especially weird since I'm not allowed to post links, so it is weird that just using a word automatically gets turned into a completely unrelated link.

Keyen
06-06-2017, 03:02 AM
Pre launched.


For now, 15 girls, real (and unlockable, not included into the story) H-scenes, upgradable stamina bar, incentives to farm, daily quests allowing F2P to farm currencies (even it's not a lot). Looks good for now.

Edit: And back to preregister after a cluster fuck of bugs (account disappearing :p)

Unregistered
06-06-2017, 04:07 AM
whats going on with this game? just a moment ago it was up but i got an cant connect error now it dissapeared

Keyen
06-06-2017, 04:16 AM
Basically, the game system:
Up to 15 girls unlockable with different classes. Equipment system (with differents stats like CDR, attack speed, and so on). Free gacha, with a bit more than 3 draws per day (1 draw per 7H, stackable trice). Village with several building, increasing damage with a specific element, increasing inventory, increasing stamina bar, increasing gold gains, and increasing maximum money you can hold.
The stamina is 1 per 5 min, completly refill on lvl up. The base is 25 stamina max, but each lvl of the dedicated building increase this cap by 5.

Missions have variable stamina cost. The first ones cost 5, grants 200 gold (before multiplier), white (trash) equipment and several crystals of a given element. The first boss cost 10, has 1H cooldown, grants 1000 gold and can drop blue tier equipment (5% chance). The next missions cost 6 and grant 250 gold (so the ratio is a bit better). Couldn't go further before the shit hits the fan.

The gameplay is a bit strange. Missions have 3 stars. One if you complete it, one if you kill every foes (you just have to kill a target to finish the stage), one if nobody die in your team. A character dying can come back after 12 or so seconds. You can't control how characters are moving or attacking, but you can move them to the back (if they are going the wrong way or if the are taking too much damage). Every character has a skill, usable after few second.

Unregistered
06-06-2017, 05:24 AM
Can't find the game in the list

Draghorn
06-07-2017, 03:04 AM
Unfortunately, the game is in Pre-release, meaning that it is only available in a few select countries. (The US not being one of those select countries.)

Unregistered
06-07-2017, 06:05 AM
Its for the best... trust me, right now its clunky and looks/feels like what a browser game made with unity stock assets would be if they somehow had the balls to claim to be a finished product. Not only that but theres only 15 characters total and do prepare yourself for the grind with nothing to do until the first update. Goddamit what happened to nutaku?

Keyen
06-07-2017, 06:18 AM
Yeah, right, because it should have nothing to do with a browser game, right?

mkh
06-07-2017, 07:41 AM
June day 28 login reward = nice.
Too bad there's only 30 days in June and the game soft-launched on the 6th.
I'm not really a math person, but I think 6+28=34.

White935
06-07-2017, 10:09 AM
June day 28 login reward = nice.
Too bad there's only 30 days in June and the game soft-launched on the 6th.
I'm not really a math person, but I think 6+28=34.

The Game has launched ? cus it still says pre-register if i try to access the game.

Ramazan
06-07-2017, 01:22 PM
Art: Good
Gameplay: Promising
H: Niiice
still trying tho but these are my first impressions

like always use vpn for canada or netherlands to access to game

Edit: im noticed that these copy-paste japanese games made me bored and their lolis.

Keyen
06-07-2017, 02:18 PM
Several tips:
Building priority: Temple = Barrack (focus first on temple if you are playing a lot, on barrack if not) > Coin storage (when needed). Dont upgrade the rest. Not worth it at the beginning.
Dont upgrade items at the start, sell the whites and keep the blues.
Except the first one, run all boss stages as soon as possible. Extremely good money/exp per stamina ratio.
Focus on only one skill and upgrade it as much as you can (Imo, the heal has priority). If you divide skill points on all girls, they will be very subpart (you can progress without them, but still).

Eab1990
06-07-2017, 02:45 PM
Is there a Discord yet?

Keyen
06-07-2017, 02:57 PM
Official discord with devs inside:
https://discordapp.com/invite/sEQrHH9

AgentFakku
06-07-2017, 03:52 PM
not digging the art style in the banner

western porn games need to up their drawings. Heck comic books look better 5009

Eab1990
06-07-2017, 04:45 PM
Thankies.

Guess I'll check out tomorrow-ish.

Draghorn
06-07-2017, 05:42 PM
So I noticed the link to the daily pre-reg seems to have dropped from the home page. But it is still working and available if you can navigate back to the page. (Say if you still have the link in your history.)

Aidoru
06-07-2017, 06:28 PM
Any reason to save up for the 10 draws instead of just doing the single draws? I don't see any bonuses like extra draw or guarantee for doing a 10 draw over 10 separate single draws.

Unregistered
06-07-2017, 10:12 PM
This game is awesome!

Arkinum
06-08-2017, 09:15 AM
It came out in soft launch were I live.

The art style is interesting, I sort of have mixed feeling about it, but generally I don't dislike it. The gameplay is kind of dry, but still somewhat entertaining. There is a camp screen that resembles Kanpani, as you upgrade building to store more money, energy etc. There are also power-up buildings that increase the effectiveness of each individual element.

Unlocking H scenes is pretty straight forward, you collect gems that coincide with that girls element and use them to "scratch" off the top layer and revile the picture underneath. when the picture if reviled completely you get a big stat boost for that girl and an encounter scene.

EDIT:

Forgot to add that the story is written in a more western style. It's alright in terms of narrative, the dirty jokes kind of fall flat but overall are more bearable than other western written stories.

Aidoru
06-08-2017, 09:26 AM
The overall game has been alright.

Not a big fan of the stamina pool system. They should have at least added a +1 to it every level in addition to the +5 from leveling up barracks or temple, forgot which. You can't even level it up high without leveling yourself up to begin with so you're gonna be stuck with such a small stamina pool for quite some time. And to make it worse, 5 minute regen rate.

The artwork is.... okay I guess but the girl designs all feel a bit... bland. Lack of facial expression variety maybe? Skin tone? I dunno. Something just seems missing or off.

Dislike the battle sprites. Probably the most disappointing aspect of the game.

Some voice acting would have been nice but not a surprise from a western h-game. The lack of music doesn't help either. Though I'm sure people just turn that off.

Ramazan
06-08-2017, 05:57 PM
June day 28 login reward = nice.
Too bad there's only 30 days in June and the game soft-launched on the 6th.
I'm not really a math person, but I think 6+28=34.

Im also wondering that myself. If devs wont change something we wont be able to get last day reward :/

So far game is what i wanted for all these time, nice art, H and fun gameplay, playing for 2 days now and its very polished (surprising for a day-2 game)

Lets hope devs not turn this into a pay sink and keep it fun and i might even spend on it, otherwise becomes another memory. They need to copy some assets of aigis, like commission sortie, event types and so on, it'd fit perfectly to this game.

Keyen
06-08-2017, 06:26 PM
We told them about that and suggested they swap the 14th day and 28th day reward (since the 14th day is a dupe for everyone). They said they will think about it.

Aidoru
06-08-2017, 07:07 PM
I hope so. With only 15 girls, I'd be rather disappointed to get a dupe. Unless this game lets me use 2 of the same girl, which seems unlikely.

Keyen
06-08-2017, 07:40 PM
Most of us got a dupe on the stage 30. You still get cristals instead, so it's not completly lost (but I agree, it's a bummer)

Aidoru
06-08-2017, 08:01 PM
I guess I got lucky and didn't get a dupe yet then, already got my stage30 achievement random girl.

Crystals don't sound too great. While you probably need a abundant amount to max out hearts, considering the small roster, unless they give us something else to use for them they'll most likely become useless fast. Unless I'm getting that mixed up with the currency.

Keyen
06-08-2017, 08:03 PM
Well, you get on average 3 crystal per 4 stamina spent (or 9 crystals per hour), so you are not getting them this fast when you need several hundred for one girl... The small roster can be expanded.

Aidoru
06-08-2017, 08:11 PM
Feels a bit more than that but I haven't bothered to keep track. But I will say with my current pacing on maxing out the hearts, it won't be long before I do max out my 4 girls (not including Nuka who is already from start).

Hopefully they do throw out new girls on a normal basis. I haven't been able to find anything about this game so I don't know whats to come. I would assume its a original nutaku game or I'm just not googling hard enough.

Diesirae
06-09-2017, 04:36 AM
I would have missed this 'soft-launch' if it wasn't for this thread ^^;
It's not quite what I thought it'd be but it's somewhat interesting nonetheless. Haven't gotten that far yet; being at stage 15. Apparently there's a time limit on repeating boss stages.. I screwed up 3 stars by having my healers get wrecked in the last minute by that aoe skill ._.' On that note, I will say combat feels a bit 'finicky' at times but maybe I'm playing too aggressive.

The seemingly small pool of girls is a bit worrisome as to whether this game has much longevity unless they decide to release regular content updates. But I may get ahead of myself by saying that because I frankly have no idea. I do agree the battle sprites are pretty disappointing in comparison to the art style, especially when you think combat should be the main draw for this game. The girls themselves for the most part look rather boring. Out of the available pool I only find 2 of them to be interesting, those being Heet and Billie.

Overall, the game and the look of the girls remind me of those horrible ads for those browser games where there's a random often scantily clothed woman showing her 'valley' with the tagline "Come Play My Lord" ..the fact that the player almost constantly gets addressed with 'my Lord' doesn't help to take away from that either X3.

To a certain degree I guess it was to be expected but still..
Unlike AoM I will continue to play this on the side to see how far it really goes. Also because I do want to try and get the only 2 girls I'm interested in ( ・ω・)☞


I haven't been able to find anything about this game so I don't know whats to come. I would assume its a original nutaku game or I'm just not googling hard enough.

From what I understood it should be a brand new game so I would be surprised if there is any.

Unregistered
06-10-2017, 09:01 AM
I find it pretty good, it's a change from the rest of the action games on Nutaku since the combat takes place in real-time. It would be 200% better with PvP and ranking system like Harem Heroes

What do you guys mean by Battle Sprite? Are you talking about the 3D, or have I missed some h scenes?

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Well, you get on average 3 crystal per 4 stamina spent (or 9 crystals per hour), so you are not getting them this fast when you need several hundred for one girl... The small roster can be expanded.

That will actually depend. Some girls apparently take a lot more crystals. I got the cannon catgirl and I'm pretty sure I've spent around 300 gems on her and she's still has a whole heart level to go.

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Starting to think leveling up healing skills was a mistake. Pretty much maxed it for my level since it's impossible to collect the coins required for next level, but it only heals a small fraction of my tank's hp.

Arkinum
06-10-2017, 09:23 AM
The AI for this game is so bad. I'm at one of the later stages, and my heroines keep dancing around until the time is up :(

Unregistered
06-10-2017, 10:00 AM
The AI for this game is so bad. I'm at one of the later stages, and my heroines keep dancing around until the time is up :(

What stage and have you tried moving them? (Drag and drop unit elsewhere)

DefinitelyNotProfile4
06-10-2017, 10:43 AM
I'm pretty happy with this game. The art is my favorite of the non-anime style. I like that it looks more painted than drawn. The combat is actually pretty fun, I was expecting a lot more of a grind. I'd appreciate some kind of skip button once we have finished a level with 3stars, but that's more of a luxury than anything. Not really needed due to how little energy we have at the moment.

One thing I was wondering though, is the current launch just a limited release that will be followed by a subsequent global release or is it more akin to a beta release where they will reset the accounts upon the global release? Enjoying the game for now, Happy Hunting.

Hentaika
06-10-2017, 10:53 AM
Well, stage 60 seems to be the last one, it drops a legendary with 1% chance and a rare with 20% chance, both are fighter weapons, and legendary is pretty much just slightly better than the starter legendary one - 61 is shown to be 'coming soon'..

Still couldn't complete stage 60 anyway, though.. the boss is very sturdy there, although predictable enough to avoid biggest damage ability, but simple units are located quite badly, so you are wasting a lot of time to engage boss 1 on 1.

Considering myself quite unlucky here - the 30 random maiden was a duplicate of starter fire maiden... I got 1 maiden from free gacha though, which is nice, but she is also the girl you will get as 14 day login bonus, so meh... The one I got was the suzume(dark dagger girl) - she is a great melee dps, but she dies just too fast to be any useful.. so great for farming low stages, but bad for progressing and 3 star hard ones.

I never really deploy this 4th girl outside of boss fights or stage rushing, which I ended now that I am at stage 60, as she is making things harder to go for 3 star.. Unless most opponents are water, in which case she becomes better tank than the fire girl.

In my opinion, the best setup for 3 staring anything would easily be 3 ranged and 1 tank with as much defence/dodge/hp as possible. Protecting 2 melee is very hard and not worth it overall, 1 will die because of how pick up delay works. Obviously unless you get duplicate of decent gear - it's usually better to have different classes as well, but gear is not hard to get, unless we are talking about legendary, which is completely out of gacha(only 1 sword exists as legendary drop for figher and it's 1% to get it)

Leveling is too fast compared to how abilities scale, so even my highest lvl ability, which is the light healer girl one at lvl 10 only heals 15% of my tank's hp and it only gets lower as you progress.


Not much to do in the game as it is and I can't really see to improve it right now - getting new girls is even harder than in kamihime R, only 1 scene per girl, only 15 girls total(well, it's not 'only' if we consider that it will take a miracle to get over 5 as a free player)..
And considering that unlike DMM games, the western content does not have further releases, which you can just translate - the content will develop either REALLY slow or won't develop at all, so not much point telling that is still in 'starter' mode. Phantasma is the closest we got to getting a decent western game(developer wise, at least), but even it has worse balance than any of DMM games and less content, but at least it has some potential.

Also a few tips: don't waste gems on normal gacha, save up for a legendary one, that's the only one that can actually help slightly if you get lucky. You won't ever get enough for 10 draws of it anyway, so just spend as soon as you get 500 gems.
Farm boss stages - those give the most per stamina usually, not counting the stage 10 boss. Starting with stage 20 boss you can pretty much spend all stamina on bosses.
As for buildings: max temple ASAP, then barracks, then coin limit up as much as you need to get those above, level 2 inventory space is more than enough, same for research academy - just get lvl 2 or 3 and forget about it. After that comes your main party dmg shrine: I go for Fire(because legendary sword) > Nature > Light > Dark(my random girl, but if you got a good ranged girl - you might want to level her shrine earlier)

Unregistered
06-10-2017, 11:05 AM
Not much to do in the game as it is and I can't really see to improve it right now -


Are you sure about that? Looking at the trophies seems to indicate there's hard mode campaigns. Does anyone know if they're available after clearing stage 60?

Keyen
06-10-2017, 11:24 AM
Several mistakes here:

Well, stage 60 seems to be the last one, it drops a legendary with 1% chance and a rare with 20% chance, both are fighter weapons, and legendary is pretty much just slightly better than the starter legendary one - 61 is shown to be 'coming soon'..

The stage 60 is only the first half. You unlock the hard mode, and get 60 more stages afterward. Also, the legendary drop rate is 100%, not 1%.



The one I got was the suzume(dark dagger girl) - she is a great melee dps, but she dies just too fast to be any useful.. so great for farming low stages, but bad for progressing and 3 star hard ones.
Suzume is great. She is less tanky than Helen for sure, but she can tank a bit (better than casters), and deals tons of damage. When you are dealing with archer, you are very happy to kill them fast enough. Something you can't do with 3 casters.


In my opinion, the best setup for 3 staring anything would easily be 3 ranged and 1 tank with as much defence/dodge/hp as possible. Protecting 2 melee is very hard and not worth it overall, 1 will die because of how pick up delay works.

I 3* everything but 5 stages (including 3 bosses stages) in normal with 2 melees (despite 4 ranged available in my team). Your reasonning has a major flaw: Rangeds can take a lot of aoe in the tooth (and then aren't so much safer than melee), and are doing way way less damage with autoshot. And the more time you take to kill monsters, the more damage your tank will take. Suzume is a monster (she is dealing at least 40% more damage than anyone in the game), and if a mob is attacking someone in melee, they won't switch to another character, even in melee (so you just have to make her coming a bit after your tank). So she is really speeding up things and is safe enough if you know what you are doing.



And considering that unlike DMM games, the western content does not have further releases, which you can just translate - the content will develop either REALLY slow or won't develop at all, so not much point telling that is still in 'starter' mode. Phantasma is the closest we got to getting a decent western game(developer wise, at least), but even it has worse balance than any of DMM games and less content, but at least it has some potential.
Phantasma is bullshit (They have no fucking idea of how to design a game, no good writing, nothing redeeming actually). Also, even if I dropped the game (for several reasons), the true decent western game out on nutaku is Harem Heroes. Lot of contents developped, and has lot of success on Nutaku.



Are you sure about that? Looking at the trophies seems to indicate there's hard mode campaigns. Does anyone know if they're available after clearing stage 60?There is. The first stage in hard destroyed me haha.

Rewards are much better (and blue items can drop everywhere).

Unregistered
06-10-2017, 12:00 PM
Several mistakes here:


The stage 60 is only the first half. You unlock the hard mode, and get 60 more stages afterward. Also, the legendary drop rate is 100%, not 1%.


Suzume is great. She is less tanky than Helen for sure, but she can tank a bit (better than casters), and deals tons of damage. When you are dealing with archer, you are very happy to kill them fast enough. Something you can't do with 3 casters.


I 3* everything but 5 stages (including 3 bosses stages) in normal with 2 melees (despite 4 ranged available in my team). Your reasonning has a major flaw: Rangeds can take a lot of aoe in the tooth (and then aren't so much safer than melee), and are doing way way less damage with autoshot. And the more time you take to kill monsters, the more damage your tank will take. Suzume is a monster (she is dealing at least 40% more damage than anyone in the game), and if a mob is attacking someone in melee, they won't switch to another character, even in melee (so you just have to make her coming a bit after your tank). So she is really speeding up things and is safe enough if you know what you are doing.


Phantasma is bullshit (They have no fucking idea of how to design a game, no good writing, nothing redeeming actually). Also, even if I dropped the game (for several reasons), the true decent western game out on nutaku is Harem Heroes. Lot of contents developped, and has lot of success on Nutaku.


There is. The first stage in hard destroyed me haha.

Rewards are much better (and blue items can drop everywhere).

Well, the chance it tells is 1% for legendary drop.. so either they made the message show wrong or it's 100% the first time or idk, maybe a bug if it's 100% for you? As I told - didn't beat 60 yet, but if it's 100% chance to drop legendary, even if it's once/day, it sounds insane(it should upgrade/sell for a lot, I presume, considering how rares work)

Also I can't see how you didn't 3 star lvl 40 or 50 and managed to 3 star so much of everything else without you being at the wrong here... boss stages are SO MUCH EASIER than the simple stage 3 star if you play like me(2 ranged, 1 melee and 1 nothing, would pick another ranged if possible)

Simple stages of 50+ just outvalue you with everyone using an ability which in summ just deals enough to kill at least 1 even if you dodge everything. Bosses on the other hand only have a decently strong auto attack and 1 shot ability, which is super easy to dodge.. boss will never, ever hit your ranged with his ability and will also never. And if you are very skilled - with just 1 melee tank he won't ever auto attack your melee as well.
Don't forget that picking someone up - means projectiles will disappear eventually and you are invulnerable during it even vs melee skills as long as they finish during the time you hold the hero.
So even though as you said - 2 melee may be worth it(as I told, I rushed stages with 2 melee just to make it in time for 2 stars at least - that of course meant that it's faster, but the probability of someone dying was extremely high).. I might be wrong because I never actually had chance to use 3rd ranged and it might be actually better to have 2 ranged/1 melee, to lessen the possible misclick chance and make it faster to dodge the aoes, but who knows. Of course when I speak about ranged heroes, I mean the ones that can both heal and be bulkier than melee non tank dps(healer is great class until hard mode at least because you get some good blue gear for it in boss stages)

For me boss stage are mostly about reaching boss fast enough and without deaths to deal enough dmg to it with just 2 ranged, because your melee will be on 'hold' 90% of the time. Overall boss fight goes approximately: melee approaches boss - before boss attacks you hold him up and wait until boss starts moving towards ranged - the exact moment it happens you drop her and when boss engages melee - repeat. This is a safe way to do it, if you can handle like 5 boss basic attacks or so and have decent healer then you can tank simple attacks and only use hold strategy on the skill the boss uses(it's always a long cast time, so you won't mistake it for anything else)

And yeah, I must apologise, I completely forgot about harem heroes somehow, and yes, it's quite good, but I also dropped it mostly because of missing quite a lot of good stuff in it so many times.

Keyen
06-10-2017, 12:31 PM
Well, the chance it tells is 1% for legendary drop.. so either they made the message show wrong or it's 100% the first time or idk, maybe a bug if it's 100% for you? As I told - didn't beat 60 yet, but if it's 100% chance to drop legendary, even if it's once/day, it sounds insane(it should upgrade/sell for a lot, I presume, considering how rares work)My bad, you are actually right, it shows 1% right now. It was 100% yesterday, even after I cleared for the first time (and I got a legendary sword). 48H cooldown, so I can't retry.


Also I can't see how you didn't 3 star lvl 40 or 50 and managed to 3 star so much of everything else without you being at the wrong here... boss stages are SO MUCH EASIER than the simple stage 3 star if you play like me(2 ranged, 1 melee and 1 nothing, would pick another ranged if possible)Well, I missed the lvl 50, and it's because you have only one try per 24H. When I tried, I got someone randomly killed and couldn't clear it again. That's all. Nothing far fetched.


Simple stages of 50+ just outvalue you with everyone using an ability which in summ just deals enough to kill at least 1 even if you dodge everything. Bosses on the other hand only have a decently strong auto attack and 1 shot ability, which is super easy to dodge.. boss will never, ever hit your ranged with his ability and will also never. And if you are very skilled - with just 1 melee tank he won't ever auto attack your melee as well.Never said bosses were the real danger here. Micah as an enemy is a bitch (her aoe deals large damage with ridiculous aoe), and the archer guy is also crazy strong. Bosses are not that hard, indeed.



Don't forget that picking someone up - means projectiles will disappear eventually and you are invulnerable during it even vs melee skills as long as they finish during the time you hold the hero.

Yes, I know, the lvl 60 boss is impossible without that particularity.


For me boss stage are mostly about reaching boss fast enough and without deaths to deal enough dmg to it with just 2 ranged, because your melee will be on 'hold' 90% of the time. Overall boss fight goes approximately: melee approaches boss - before boss attacks you hold him up and wait until boss starts moving towards ranged - the exact moment it happens you drop her and when boss engages melee - repeat. This is a safe way to do it, if you can handle like 5 boss basic attacks or so and have decent healer then you can tank simple attacks and only use hold strategy on the skill the boss uses(it's always a long cast time, so you won't mistake it for anything else)

You wont kill bosses quick enough with 3 ranged. That's the main problem. Even if you can avoid deaths, there is a timer, and it's tight when you are progressing through the game. The start is basically the same with 2 melee. Just put them on different side so you know who the boss is focusing, and hold the target. You will even spread the basic attack damage (making the heal skill more effective).

Hentaika
06-10-2017, 01:04 PM
You wont kill bosses quick enough with 3 ranged. That's the main problem. Even if you can avoid deaths, there is a timer, and it's tight when you are progressing through the game. The start is basically the same with 2 melee. Just put them on different side so you know who the boss is focusing, and hold the target. You will even spread the basic attack damage (making the heal skill more effective).

You are lucky to have got your 2nd legendary sword then XD that's probably one of reasons you tell about melee being bigger dps - most people won't get that 2nd legendary sword unless they get extremely lucky...

I just checked and apparently the biggest melee dps in the game is suzume I mentioned thx to her 150 atk speed while still having decent dmg over lvl. Pair her with a legendary sword and she indeed will improve your party of 2 melee/2 ranged a lot... problem is - my fighter class gear is only good for 1 person, and considering I want that person to tank - I use my best gear on fire tank and suzume just gets leftovers.

The ranged dps depends on which hero you got heavily, so I would rate the ranged heroes approxmately as follows on 3 tiers:
Tier 1: Heet/Roxelana - both are insane fire element ranged dps. Problem is - fire is weak vs water which has some decent foes.

Tier 2: Nuka/Althea - nuka is a hybrid of healer and dmg'er while still being decent dmg'er, she starts out with you, so no reason not to keep her unless you get very good heroes and althea is best and pretty much the only real healer in the game. Considering the healers have insanely low dmg capability - you won't want to have more healers than althea..
Althea's skill is actually one of the few you should really try to level up as much as you can.

Tier 3: everything else, those ranged are really better off not being used if possible, maybe only situational wise when fire is very bad vs certain map. But then again - it all comes up to your randomness and who you got... if you only lucked out to get a total of 4 non duplicate heroes including starting one - you don't exactly have a choice at all.

I am not counting micah in, because I assume she is the only legendary tier hero we have and you won't ever get her pretty much, but if you do - she is the best of them all and should probably be included in any party.

Keyen
06-10-2017, 01:13 PM
You are lucky to have got your 2nd legendary sword then XD that's probably one of reasons you tell about melee being bigger dps - most people won't get that 2nd legendary sword unless they get extremely lucky...

Not really, you can get white sword lvl 5 (the warring legion one, the other one is worthless white) very easily and they have +50% damage (same as a Legendary lvl 1). The Attack speed and CDR doesn't matter. Do that and your suzume dps will skyrocket.

For supports, I will have to disagree. Althea skill is pretty bad as you level. Meanwhile, Billie's skill is insanely OP, is really good even low level, and get better and better with time. I use both for now, but I will probably switch out Althea real soon.

Also, there is 3 legendary heroes. Micah, Heet and Billie. You can recognize them by their yellow name. Rare heroes have blue names.

Hentaika
06-10-2017, 01:30 PM
Not really, you can get white sword lvl 5 (the warring legion one, the other one is worthless white) very easily and they have +50% damage (same as a Legendary lvl 1). The Attack speed and CDR doesn't matter. Do that and your suzume dps will skyrocket.

For supports, I will have to disagree. Althea skill is pretty bad as you level. Meanwhile, Billie's skill is insanely OP, is really good even low level, and get better and better with time. I use both for now, but I will probably switch out Althea real soon.

Also, there is 3 legendary heroes. Micah, Heet and Billie. You can recognize them by their yellow name. Rare heroes have blue names.

Oh dam *facepalms* so that's how you check rarity of heroes... I just based my judgement on combination of dmg/atk speed - the only combination that really matters for ranged, as HP can be made decent enough(for ranged, that is) with gear, but you can't exactly fix bad attack speed, so you want a 70+ default one in general, otherwise your dmg increase won't profit as much as well. I can see how insane base dmg and low attack speed be good, but it's too hard to make real - requires great attack speed gear which is harder to come by.

Also: how do you check skills of heroes you don't have? o-o Or do you know billie's one just because you have her and you can't check any in general outside of seeing enemy do it?

But if what you say is correct - then I must assume that hero rarity means the scaling of skills improves, and becomes actually worth it maybe?

How did you get so many heroes anyway? o-o Did you never get duplicates from 30/60 and got lucky enough to get a legendary hero from the only 500 draw that is realistically possible right now? o-o As it is - I had a duplicate from level 30.. and I assume lvl 60, which I will soon get will be duplicate as well, because it's probably rigged to be so. The 500 draw which I am very close to as well might become a legendary maiden, but knowing my luck - it will be an item which I won't be able to use because it's for a maiden of class I don't have.

Btw - does the cooldown reduction work at all? It never displays on the profile of maiden, so I suppose it's bugged at that point in the game, but never got a decent amount of it to actually check if it works or not. As it is right now - the higher on the list of item is cooldown reduction the worse the item is in general for me.(the higher the stat is on the item - the bigger it is in general for same rarity, so 3rd stat has much less impact than 1st one and it's only on legendary anyway)

Keyen
06-10-2017, 01:41 PM
Also: how do you check skills of heroes you don't have? o-o Or do you know billie's one just because you have her and you can't check any in general outside of seeing enemy do it?
I do have Billie. She stun in an aoe for 0,3s + 0,2s*skill level (+damage, but the scaling is bad like all damage skills). Basically, the skill is lvl 8 right now, she stuns in an aoe for 1.9s. Max level, It will be over 4s stun. The CD is the same than the heal.


How did you get so many heroes anyway? o-o Did you never get duplicates from 30/60 and got lucky enough to get a legendary hero from the only 500 draw that is realistically possible right now? o-o As it is - I had a duplicate from level 30.. and I assume lvl 60, which I will soon get will be duplicate as well, because it's probably rigged to be so. The 500 draw which I am very close to as well might become a legendary maiden, but knowing my luck - it will be an item which I won't be able to use because it's for a maiden of class I don't have.
I usually do another account for each of the new nutaku release. I get 100 base gold, I do 5 self referals for 500 aditionnal gold, and I usually bother for the first tier of the puzzle. 700 free gold = 700 gems. Was able to do 2 legendary draws, got a pair of shoes (I can't even use them) and Billie. The lvl 30 random maiden was also a dupe for me (but someone got Micah from it), and I got Coral at lvl 60.


Btw - does the cooldown reduction work at all? It never displays on the profile of maiden, so I suppose it's bugged at that point in the game, but never got a decent amount of it to actually check if it works or not. As it is right now - the higher on the list of item is cooldown reduction the worse the item is in general for me.(the higher the stat is on the item - the bigger it is in general for same rarity, so 3rd stat has much less impact than 1st one and it's only on legendary anyway)
According to devs, the CDR is not displayed, but works properly. However, the bonus we have now are so small (usually 1 or 2%) they are not noticeable.

Hentaika
06-10-2017, 02:03 PM
I do have Billie. She stun in an aoe for 0,3s + 0,2s*skill level (+damage, but the scaling is bad like all damage skills). Basically, the skill is lvl 8 right now, she stuns in an aoe for 1.9s. Max level, It will be over 4s stun. The CD is the same than the heal.

I usually do another account for each of the new nutaku release. I get 100 base gold, I do 5 self referals for 500 aditionnal gold, and I usually bother for the first tier of the puzzle. 700 free gold = 700 gems. Was able to do 2 legendary draws, got a pair of shoes (I can't even use them) and Billie. The lvl 30 random maiden was also a dupe for me (but someone got Micah from it), and I got Coral at lvl 60.

According to devs, the CDR is not displayed, but works properly. However, the bonus we have now are so small (usually 1 or 2%) they are not noticeable.

Oh yeah, totally forgot you can get so much gold for essentially free if you bother XD I just have main account which is on all games and if it needs rerolling things - then I bother on the second accounts. XD

Keyen
06-10-2017, 02:11 PM
I do bother :p As a F2P player, they are my only edge ^^

Hentaika
06-10-2017, 02:21 PM
I do bother :p As a F2P player, they are my only edge ^^

Yes, true, but even then, 700 is usually only enough to speed things up a bit, around 1500 is what most games want for something that gives a decent chance on something great...

And doing the 700 free for every reroll you make is just too long.

Aidoru
06-10-2017, 11:06 PM
Are cooldown equips bugged? Your equipment effects are added onto the display as soon as you equip it, tested with every other effect, but not a single equip I have with cooldown rate is shown on my stat display. Is this a visual bug or do they literally do nothing?

Not that 1% makes a difference but still.

Diesirae
06-11-2017, 03:09 AM
What do you guys mean by Battle Sprite? Are you talking about the 3D, or have I missed some h scenes?

Yeah, the 3D models. I mean if you zoom in you can see how bland and uninteresting they really are, missing details like eyes etc.. to a certain degree I can understand, but even from a distance you can already notice the lack of detail. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but I do think it conflicts with the artwork of the girls whether you're into the style or not.


I usually do another account for each of the new nutaku release. I get 100 base gold, I do 5 self referals for 500 aditionnal gold, and I usually bother for the first tier of the puzzle. 700 free gold = 700 gems. Was able to do 2 legendary draws, got a pair of shoes (I can't even use them) and Billie. The lvl 30 random maiden was also a dupe for me (but someone got Micah from it), and I got Coral at lvl 60.

I suppose that's one way to go about it. Sounds a bit like a pain to manage though.


According to devs, the CDR is not displayed, but works properly. However, the bonus we have now are so small (usually 1 or 2%) they are not noticeable.

Was wondering about that.. not that it matters much obviously.

Hentaika
06-11-2017, 10:24 AM
Skills need to scale better IMO.. I got a feeling that npc have overleveled skills compared to player.

Keyen
06-11-2017, 11:59 AM
The game got updated, and skills are way stronger now.

Unregistered
06-11-2017, 03:14 PM
Hey guys, I have a few questions regarding the game, any answers would be appreciated. Sorry if they were already answered in one of the previous pages.

1. When I hover over equipment, a little pop up appears with a stat. This looks like another way to view the equipment stat but several of these are not the same as the actual stat of the equipment or their values are wrong. I figure it's a bug but it seems a bit weird on how many different equips I see it with wrong stats or values. Is there any confirmation if this is a bug?

2. In the trophies it mentions a hard mode. Is this in the game yet?

3. The gacha mentions legendary girls. Is there a way to differentiate them from non-legendary girls and are all the girls available in the free gacha?

4. Do some units auto use skills? I noticed sometimes Helen's skill gets blacked out after cooldown even though I didn't trigger it myself.

Keyen
06-11-2017, 06:07 PM
1. When I hover over equipment, a little pop up appears with a stat. This looks like another way to view the equipment stat but several of these are not the same as the actual stat of the equipment or their values are wrong. I figure it's a bug but it seems a bit weird on how many different equips I see it with wrong stats or values. Is there any confirmation if this is a bug?It's a bug. The hovering tooltip is wrong. The one you get by clicking is correct (CDR doesn't affect the character sheet yet)


2. In the trophies it mentions a hard mode. Is this in the game yet? Yes it's implanted.


3. The gacha mentions legendary girls. Is there a way to differentiate them from non-legendary girls and are all the girls available in the free gacha?White name = common girl, blue name = rare girl, yellow name = Legendary girl.


4. Do some units auto use skills? I noticed sometimes Helen's skill gets blacked out after cooldown even though I didn't trigger it myself. Some skills require a target, and can't be used if your hero doesn't have one. The skill "black out" because no target is available, not because it got used.

Aidoru
06-11-2017, 08:51 PM
Wow that hard difficulty. That first stage I almost cleared it by juggling my 2 ranged attackers in-between the 3 lanes to kill the enemy as it forces it to run around and right when I was about to destroy the artifact, time ran out. Dang.

And got my first dupe from the stage 60 clear and a weapon from the legendary gacha. Meh. Rather disappointing.

Unregistered
06-11-2017, 11:45 PM
Wow that hard difficulty. That first stage I almost cleared it by juggling my 2 ranged attackers in-between the 3 lanes to kill the enemy as it forces it to run around and right when I was about to destroy the artifact, time ran out. Dang.

And got my first dupe from the stage 60 clear

Lucky you, both my 30 and 60 stage clear were dupes.

Hentaika
06-12-2017, 04:18 AM
Lucky you, both my 30 and 60 stage clear were dupes.

And you think that is unlucky, heh? I got both dupes, both dupes were crystals I didn't need anymore(fire)

My legendary 500 gem roll was a ring which I CANT use because I have no girl engineer.... and even if I had - engineers seem bad on average...



BTW, very important update just came out recently, so refresh the game. They improved the scaling of skills, so skills become MUCH more useful, especially late game...

My low lvl skills got boosted by about 1.5x and my highest level skills are now 4.5x stronger than they used to be - you heard that right, your healer will heal your tank for over half hp now instead of 15% or so.

But yeah - hard mode is still crazy hard.. just did my 1st stage there and it was against 1 enemy... never thought I would have so much trouble with 1 enemy... but when that enemy 1 shots non tank with basic attack.. it's insane XD

Considering developers seem to be updating the game - I hope they will add changes to maiden rewards for new players at least - people do want to get non duplicates at least on achievement rolls... so making it drop unique one seems good enough(maybe limit it to normal/rare tier though, so people won't hug their achievements until later when they get all normals/most rares)

Unregistered
06-12-2017, 06:12 AM
You guys have no idea how disappointed I was after finding out hard mode bosses share the same cooldown timer with normal mode ones right after just doing the normal mode boss.

Keyen
06-12-2017, 07:10 AM
You guys have no idea how disappointed I was after finding out hard mode bosses share the same cooldown timer with normal mode ones right after just doing the normal mode boss.

They don't. And even if they did, normal bosses are worthless once you can do the boss lvl 10 in hard.

Unregistered
06-12-2017, 07:30 AM
They don't. And even if they did, normal bosses are worthless once you can do the boss lvl 10 in hard.

They do, I did the normal 10 boss to level up and then reached the hard boss after only to find it on cooldown.

Keyen
06-12-2017, 08:52 AM
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Unregistered
06-12-2017, 09:39 AM
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Only other possibility would be unlocking a boss in hard while normal is on cooldown causes the cooldown to go on hard. I for sure had a 55 minute cooldown before I ever got a chance to do hard though.

- - - Updated - - -

Well either that, or my game glitched.

Diesirae
06-13-2017, 05:14 PM
Managed to scrap 500 gems finally and got one of the girls I wanted..

http://i.imgur.com/1jQY9tG.jpg

Didn't know suicide bombers were classified as engineers. ( ̄~ ̄ )
Slowly creeping up on to stage 60; will get there eventually..

Drayvhen
06-13-2017, 11:38 PM
Im stuck with 2 quest that I cant complete (engineer and marksman), did my first 500gem draw and got a helm that I cant use, Im unable to complete lvl 60 because I get the "ran out of memory" message....not a good day.

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 10:44 AM
Any whales out there mind sharing how much a difference full legendary equipment and girls make as over regular girls and reg/rare equips? Started doing hard mode and while I can clear them, the combat has basically changed to glass cannoning, which I'm not really fond of

Hentaika
06-14-2017, 11:08 AM
Any whales out there mind sharing how much a difference full legendary equipment and girls make as over regular girls and reg/rare equips? Started doing hard mode and while I can clear them, the combat has basically changed to glass cannoning, which I'm not really fond of

None, you can easily beat the game and hard difficulty with the starter team. Starter team is really well balanced and it's quite hard to replace someone for a better one, the easiest to replace is probably nuka(because 120% romance only and some mages have better stats)... there are only 3 tanks - helen, nature one and eli... eli is much better than helen with some atk speed gear. Other than that you can just stick to helen always... Suzume is one of the best dps.. replacing her dps is very hard, since you will first replace nuka.

If you plan to reroll(needs referral abuse) for legendary maiden - I suggest micah, easily the best hero in the game: huge range, good dps. It's pretty good chance to get maiden from legendary gacha(around 25-40%).. all of the legendary are worth it in a way - heet can replace the nuka and billie has stun which can be good on hard.

I am on stage 45 hard with starter team and can probably progress until stage 53 easily if I try to. The hard difficulty is about dodging the skill of the target and then bursting it down, that's the overall gameplay in this game anyway. You can't 'faceroll' 3 stars in hard difficulty... and until lvl 60 and decent rare gear I wouldn't try to 3 star the hard... You can still do some, but just don't waste stamina to attempt at 3 star - better farm.
21+ hard starts to drop 2x rares and 41+ already has over 50% chance to find 2x rare.
Legendary gear is just too expensive to upgrade - it will EVENTUALLY be better.... but by the time you finish hard difficulty 60 - you will only have a full set of rare items of lvl 3 or so with maybe weapons being higher... and lvl 3 rare is pretty much the same as legendary 1(barely different)

Keyen
06-14-2017, 11:37 AM
Can confirm this. The game is doable in F2P mode, but the opponents' skills are a bit overtuned for now. You have to avoid skills (and well), or be teamwiped. I hope it will be rebalanced later. I stress it again, the game is still doable.

Diesirae
06-14-2017, 02:48 PM
Im stuck with 2 quest that I cant complete (engineer and marksman), did my first 500gem draw and got a helm that I cant use, Im unable to complete lvl 60 because I get the "ran out of memory" message....not a good day.

It's a bit lame that you can get quests for classes you don't own.. got one today for marksman which I don't have.

Not sure how much legendary gear would matter but I've done 3 stars up to 59 so far with just the base crew, though I did get Suzume from the first free gacha draw which does help I suppose. Can't beat 60 because I get obliterated though so I'm farming levels and whatnot to grow a bit stronger first.

Hentaika
06-14-2017, 03:44 PM
It's a bit lame that you can get quests for classes you don't own.. got one today for marksman which I don't have.

Not sure how much legendary gear would matter but I've done 3 stars up to 59 so far with just the base crew, though I did get Suzume from the first free gacha draw which does help I suppose. Can't beat 60 because I get obliterated though so I'm farming levels and whatnot to grow a bit stronger first.

Everyone gets suzume from first gacha draw - she is the 4th guaranteed starter member for a full party - after that you are on your own.
And 60 is all about dodging the boss abilities with picking up during his skill dmg proc.

Diesirae
06-14-2017, 03:53 PM
Everyone gets suzume from first gacha draw - she is the 4th guaranteed starter member for a full party - after that you are on your own.
And 60 is all about dodging the boss abilities with picking up during his skill dmg proc.

Ah my bad, thought you just get a random normal maiden because she's also a reward from the login bonuses.
Never mind then.. base crew fully manageable then I suppose x3

Yeah, I figured as much but it's still a hassle or I'm just not timing it right where often I get one-hit right after spawning again.
Honestly though, I've tried it once so far.. got him to 20% health before the time ran out. But it's a 15 energy battle so I rather farm some more before I try again just to be sure.

Hentaika
06-14-2017, 04:44 PM
Ah my bad, thought you just get a random normal maiden because she's also a reward from the login bonuses.
Never mind then.. base crew fully manageable then I suppose x3

Yeah, I figured as much but it's still a hassle or I'm just not timing it right where often I get one-hit right after spawning again.
Honestly though, I've tried it once so far.. got him to 20% health before the time ran out. But it's a 15 energy battle so I rather farm some more before I try again just to be sure.

Levels increase your power a lot, so worth doing it... also don't be afraid to enchant gear, especially weapon, all of the experience you dumped on the items is transferred over when you enchant something with it(so if you enchant a lvl 5 common item into lvl 1 common it will also become a lvl 5 common)

Diesirae
06-14-2017, 05:00 PM
Levels increase your power a lot, so worth doing it... also don't be afraid to enchant gear, especially weapon, all of the experience you dumped on the items is transferred over when you enchant something with it(so if you enchant a lvl 5 common item into lvl 1 common it will also become a lvl 5 common)

Thanks, that's actually good to know. ^ω^

Yeah, I have most of my gear enchanted to level 5 or at least the HP and DMG % ones. The other stats with low % increments I try not to prioritize because I doubt they have much effect unless you have more gear for it. But yeah that's great that you can essentially 'transfer' the level to other gear if needed or wanted.

I'm also trying to level Heet up currently, get her up to speed because I think I should be able to replace Nuka with her as she doesn't seem to be of much use for the boss and most other battles. She eats a butt-load of gems though (which is understandable for a legendary) but man.. she's going to take a bit to get the 'Flirt/Romance' upgrades.

saberlance
06-15-2017, 04:53 AM
Im stuck with 2 quest that I cant complete (engineer and marksman)


It's a bit lame that you can get quests for classes you don't own.. got one today for marksman which I don't have.

Looks like they just added a SKIP button for the quests.

Diesirae
06-15-2017, 05:53 AM
Looks like they just added a SKIP button for the quests.

Hmm, maybe they're watching this thread.. ^ω^;
Because they also changed the first maiden login reward bonus from Suzume to Roxelana.. too bad I already had her as well but still x3

Aidoru
06-15-2017, 07:47 AM
They also fixed cooldown stat.

Didn't fix my biggest annoyance though, the sound turning on despite I having all set on off.

Not sure what else they've done though, wished there was at least patch/update notes.

Hentaika
06-15-2017, 08:47 AM
Hmm, maybe they're watching this thread.. ^ω^;
Because they also changed the first maiden login reward bonus from Suzume to Roxelana.. too bad I already had her as well but still x3

There is a discord channel for the game and they are actually listening to most of the suggestions there.

Approximate changes were:
1) Skip quest button - puts your quest wait time into 24 hours immediately but no reward.
2) Cooldown fixes
3) The biggest bad thing is that building times are insanely long now... They were too short, I agree... but the current ones are just way too much.
4) Skill cost reduced by a lot, especially at higher levels.
5) Daily rewards - new 14 day hero. They still didn't seem to fix the 28 day hero reward, but they promise to do at least something about it(maybe some small compensation, but probably not the hero you are supposed to get)

Diesirae
06-15-2017, 06:14 PM
There is a discord channel for the game and they are actually listening to most of the suggestions there.

3) The biggest bad thing is that building times are insanely long now... They were too short, I agree... but the current ones are just way too much.
4) Skill cost reduced by a lot, especially at higher levels.

1 hour to upgrade a level 2 building, up from 5 minutes I believe?
That's quite a jump.. not too unreasonable though but it does make me wonder how much it'd be for higher tiers.

Was wondering why my next skill upgrade went down from 9k to 6k.. x3

I totally overlooked the discord button in game or at least just didn't take not of it.. now that I do though, clicking on it doesn't do anything; same with the Facebook icon. I would suggest on discord to have it fixed or looked at but you know.. ^^;

Aidoru
06-15-2017, 06:38 PM
Lv2 to 3 elemental building jumped to 5 hours.

Anyways, wow that stage 12 in hard mode. The 2 last enemies stack up together because their AI or something and the enemy's Nuka likes to heal both while basically one shotting anyone who comes in range because her skill does that and as defense is near useless at my current point in game. Jeez.

Cheesed through it by going straight for the artifact. First time I ever got 1 star on a stage.

Diesirae
06-15-2017, 07:16 PM
Lv2 to 3 elemental building jumped to 5 hours.

It could differ per building but..

Just upgraded my level 3 fire shrine to 4; 5 hours.
Research Academy went from level 2 to 3; took 1 hour.

It really doesn't matter anyway unless at some point it could take up several days but I don't know if the upgrades even go that far.
I would think after 5 hours comes 10 and after that maybe 15/20 or an entire day.. don't know how quickly it would ramp up.

Hentaika
06-15-2017, 07:58 PM
1 hour to upgrade a level 2 building, up from 5 minutes I believe?
That's quite a jump.. not too unreasonable though but it does make me wonder how much it'd be for higher tiers.

Was wondering why my next skill upgrade went down from 9k to 6k.. x3

I totally overlooked the discord button in game or at least just didn't take not of it.. now that I do though, clicking on it doesn't do anything; same with the Facebook icon. I would suggest on discord to have it fixed or looked at but you know.. ^^;

You are in some way blocking either Advertisements or pop ups or both - this blocks the use of the button obviously, since it opens a new window.
Both discord and facebook buttons are working just fine on chrome for sure. And I did have the same pop up blocking problem of course.

Aidoru
06-15-2017, 11:26 PM
My bad, it was Lv3 to 4. Been logging on less and less for this game, not really motivated to do hard, regular at least rewarded with a random girl.

Diesirae
06-16-2017, 12:36 AM
You are in some way blocking either Advertisements or pop ups or both - this blocks the use of the button obviously, since it opens a new window.
Both discord and facebook buttons are working just fine on chrome for sure. And I did have the same pop up blocking problem of course.

Heh, thanks.
I honestly did not see the words 'Popup Blocked' in the right corner of the address bar until you mentioned that ._. Usually it would show either of my blockers lit up with the number of popups blocked but it was a different more subtle icon this time. Meh, I'm blaming it on the fact that it was close to bedtime when I posted that. (# ̄ω ̄)

I can see how it can become a bit of a drag without any clear incentive(s).. not sure if they'll come up with events to keep things interesting in the future. Probably not during the soft-launch period though.

Eab1990
06-16-2017, 09:37 PM
So while the rest of us wait for the global launch, would the beta players say this is the best (or "best") of Nutaku's western games thus far?

Keyen
06-17-2017, 01:44 AM
It has its flaws, it has some balance issues, but it's a nice game worthy of being played.

Hentaika
06-17-2017, 09:52 AM
So while the rest of us wait for the global launch, would the beta players say this is the best (or "best") of Nutaku's western games thus far?

I would say it's fun game, but it suffers from the same flaw the girls on tanks does - the game has limited content, and it will take more time than usual to add more.

Just like girls on tanks - you can beat everything if you no life it within 1-2 weeks. I am quite sure that at least one person aside of me already finished the last stage of hard difficulty a few days ago(earlier than I did).. not sure if more did it, but it's not that hard to do, even if you are unlucky and only have starter party maidens, which aren't that bad tbh.. so I wouldn't be surprised.
You can increase maximum energy as your player level increases, so eventually(not soon) you will reach a point where it will take like 6-8 hours to fill, which is good enough..

The gameplay is fun in the sense that skill really matters - I could easily go from failing map to beating map with half the time left just by 'doing better'...
It still has some balance issues, but it does not prevent you from progressing till the end in any way.

The maidens are few(15 of them total, 3 being legendary), and each has one scene, you get 4 starter ones, so that's over quarter done already.. but the scenes are quite nicely drawn, even though they are non animated, which is a slight downside.
There is legendary gacha for 500 gems, which only awards the best 'legendary' quality. Has nice chance for a legendary maiden(around 20%-40% chance, but don't quote me on that)..
You can get duplicate maidens, which is a downside..(gives nothing you can't grind in return)

Developers do a lot of fixes/changes daily and listen to players.. so by the time you will get the game, it will be more fleshed out, but probably won't have much more content...

I would say harem heroes will still remain the 'biggest' decent western game. Much more content there and loads of events.

This one is still above the others, but just like girls on tanks - you will slowly lose interest when you reach the end content, which can be reached quite fast.

Diesirae
06-17-2017, 10:32 AM
Well it's somewhat subjective really but I'd say in terms of being unique and non-intrusive on pushing you to cash out, I'd put it on the same level as Harem Heroes but with seemingly more 'depth'....

Keyen
06-17-2017, 10:58 AM
I would say it's fun game, but it suffers from the same flaw the girls on tanks does - the game has limited content, and it will take more time than usual to add more.

Just like girls on tanks - you can beat everything if you no life it within 1-2 weeks. I am quite sure that at least one person aside of me already finished the last stage of hard difficulty a few days ago(earlier than I did).. not sure if more did it, but it's not that hard to do, even if you are unlucky and only have starter party maidens, which aren't that bad tbh.. so I wouldn't be surprised.
You can increase maximum energy as your player level increases, so eventually(not soon) you will reach a point where it will take like 6-8 hours to fill, which is good enough..

The gameplay is fun in the sense that skill really matters - I could easily go from failing map to beating map with half the time left just by 'doing better'...
It still has some balance issues, but it does not prevent you from progressing till the end in any way.

The maidens are few(15 of them total, 3 being legendary), and each has one scene, you get 4 starter ones, so that's over quarter done already.. but the scenes are quite nicely drawn, even though they are non animated, which is a slight downside.
There is legendary gacha for 500 gems, which only awards the best 'legendary' quality. Has nice chance for a legendary maiden(around 20%-40% chance, but don't quote me on that)..
You can get duplicate maidens, which is a downside..(gives nothing you can't grind in return)

Developers do a lot of fixes/changes daily and listen to players.. so by the time you will get the game, it will be more fleshed out, but probably won't have much more content...

I would say harem heroes will still remain the 'biggest' decent western game. Much more content there and loads of events.

This one is still above the others, but just like girls on tanks - you will slowly lose interest when you reach the end content, which can be reached quite fast.
You are a bit mean to compare with Girls on tanks which is fondamentaly flawed. GoT doesn't even have good bases. The game can't progress and will stay flawed at its core.

It's completely different for CM. I mean, there is a lack in content, but that's all. The whole system is here, and it's good. No bullshit system like this faction war, no bullshit system² like this "pay to evolve da girlz".
CM just need more content, some balancing (skills especially) and it's good to go. GoT needs a complete overhaul, and since they weren't able to do a good job while stealing the whole battle system, I doubt they can do it.

Hentaika
06-17-2017, 01:11 PM
You are a bit mean to compare with Girls on tanks which is fondamentaly flawed. GoT doesn't even have good bases. The game can't progress and will stay flawed at its core.

It's completely different for CM. I mean, there is a lack in content, but that's all. The whole system is here, and it's good. No bullshit system like this faction war, no bullshit system² like this "pay to evolve da girlz".
CM just need more content, some balancing (skills especially) and it's good to go. GoT needs a complete overhaul, and since they weren't able to do a good job while stealing the whole battle system, I doubt they can do it.

The faction system is actually the best part, if you think of it as daily/weekly reward instead simply... it's how you can actually get everything without paying to win.. and literally everything.. in due time... a few weeks and you won't really have money issues for main team, level 5'ing them.

I would dare say that girls on tanks is one of the friendliest games for free to players - you literally get EVERYTHING for free... and if you bother playing faction wars daily for girl exp and getting the weekly epic box - you get top tier stuff in no time.

i would say the balance there is rather okay and it's fun to complete the game if you enjoy the grid turn based tactics..
There is element of progression, there is positioning, there is everything... the only real flaw is the amount of content IMO... and you can't really design anything interesting event wise there... so yeah. It's certainly not a great game, but a very decent one, can be considered pretty much a free single player game tho.
The only potentially good change I can see on it is adding live pvp there.. but I doubt it will be done.

Getting everything for free is much easier than on crystal maidens, that's something I can guarantee(have main team and substitute team on girls on tanks leveled to max outside of the ones who are better off low level and most of the stuff 3 star'd - no payment involved, not even free sign up stuff)

But I can see how there can be much hate for the game - grid turn based strategy is one of the most unpopular genre of all... mostly favored by the older audience.

Keyen
06-17-2017, 05:22 PM
Man, you are getting everything for free because the devs are incredibly stupid and missed the "everyone on the same side" loophole. You remove this absurdity, everything else crumble. Faction war may be the key of getting everything free, but it's not an intended key, and it can't stay on the long term, because it's 100% absurd.

You can't judge how quick you can unlock content based on that. It's like saying "oh, I can open the dev console and get infinite gem, this game is pretty F2P friendly". Not at all. And just based on how slow everything is unlocked if you are not doing the faction war...

Unregistered
06-17-2017, 09:33 PM
yeah thats why crystal maidens > all others nutaku games :-)

TiamatRoar
06-17-2017, 10:43 PM
Getting everything for free is much easier than on crystal maidens, that's something I can guarantee(have main team and substitute team on girls on tanks leveled to max outside of the ones who are better off low level and most of the stuff 3 star'd - no payment involved, not even free sign up stuff)

Honestly, that sounds like the game won't make enough money to survive if people can get absolutely everything while paying for nothing within a few weeks.

It also makes it no wonder why the game ran out of content for everyone so quickly. The whole fiasco makes me think Nutaku would have been better off releasing it as an offline buy-to-play downloadable game instead. Guess the designers didn't catch the memo that online-only games need to be designed with longer lifespans in mind or something.

Unregistered
06-21-2017, 02:12 AM
These building times are so awful. At this rate they're going to take a week and more to build. Feels like they're just trying force people into buy the multi building item. Typical of Nutaku since building mulltiple buildings probably wouldn't even be paywalled in a DMM game, Mononofu for example. I honestly don't see this game making much money with its current features and wouldn't be surprised to some more new cash features.

Boss stage timer are just as bad. No stages should have more than a day at max for a cooldown period.

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Oh boy, these building timers are getting pretty bad. 2 days per building and I won't be surprised if next upgrade is 4 days.

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Any idea when is the game goin to be released on Nutaku?

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Any idea when is the game goin to be released on Nutaku?

Keyen
06-21-2017, 07:26 PM
Building timers are huge, but the comparaison with Monofufu is unfair. Mononofu has 60 building levels (10 for CM), and the blocking factor is the money, not the time, while on CM, you can easily farm the money (Just kill hard bosses). The last levels on mononofu have also a huge building time as well (over two weeks).

Honestly, you can expect to have everything maxed in 6 months, which is pretty low consdering it includes useless buildings (like the inventory) and last levels (which are not required to do anything). Basically, camps are just bonus, and getting coin storage/temple/barrack maxed is blocked by account level, not by building time.

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Made a spreadsheet about stuff:
https://mega.nz/#!TgIwDapJ!pX2pJ5LyrycFkh3FLCj5FYNeewFZOeeqSu2SXCq F984

Contain information about characters (and an easy to use calculator if you want to mess with stuff) and also a database about equipment drop: location, stamina spending, droprate, and enough filters to compare lot of stuff.

I'm pretty sure it's not perfect and may need more works, but should be good enough to use for now.
If you have question, or if you find an error, just PM here or on Discord.

Feedbacks appreciated

Unregistered
06-21-2017, 07:26 PM
Hmm, seem to be getting disconnected a lot mid levels a lot today.

Keyen
06-21-2017, 07:48 PM
Disable your VPN once you are inside the game.

Unregistered
06-22-2017, 12:07 AM
Disable your VPN once you are inside the game.

Gave it a shot and still disconnected anyway. Might have to wait until official launch I guess.

Aidoru
06-22-2017, 10:13 AM
Not sure if it's a bug or intentional but you can "Find" equip you want and run the stage even if you haven't unlocked it yet. Just ran Stage 55 hard despite still being on the 30's.

Also pulled Micah from my free pulls, was rather surprised. Gonna pump her with attack speed and see how fast she can shoot lol.

And that Lv7 to 8 storage building... 3 days. I'm thinking you're better off saving for the item that lets you build multiple since it's permanent that spending it on 500 pulls, at least til you've bought it. With the time it takes to upgrade buildings and the only way to hasten is with gems/cash, you'll eventually reach the point where you can't spend money on anything and just be wasting it. At least with Mononofu, as mention above, you could do so from the start and the game also gives you many items to reduce construction time.

Keyen
06-22-2017, 11:10 AM
Buy it if you want, but it's by no means mandatory.

Only 3 buildings are. Two other are even useless to upgrade.

And once you are done with building, the upgrade is wasted (when pulls are not, except if you draw a dupe...)

Aidoru
06-22-2017, 11:31 AM
The only waste is the unused space from the storage, which I upgraded because everything else was already capped aside from element shrines. Unless you're telling me you're on 24/7 to use your skill points, cause I sure don't care about this game enough to do that and I'm sure many others aren't either.

Keyen
06-22-2017, 02:11 PM
Yes, if you are at the point where you get things maxed, you will no longer need skill points (You can only use a finite amount of skill points, and it doesn't require this much if you count playing months). Also, It grows much more quickly than the barracks in amount of time sparred per upgrade (lvl 7, you can hold 7 hours of skill points, for instance), and thus, you don't need to max it.

Aidoru
06-22-2017, 03:11 PM
I wasn't talking about maxing out the building but rather your implication of saying they're useless to upgrade when they're are plenty useful to. Simply getting it to a point where you can log in without missing any potential points for those who don't get on a lot is enough to be useful. Even if there's a skill cap in the end, the point it is helped you reach that point.

Bruceski
06-23-2017, 01:55 AM
Do we have any word when this is hitting full release?

Hentaika
06-23-2017, 08:22 PM
Do we have any word when this is hitting full release?

According to what devs told so far - quite soon, they plan to push a few updates by the release, so will still take at least 1-2 weeks, but probably not more than that.
They will most likely try to release it by start of july - this way you won't skip the full month daily reward maiden, like the testers did.

Diesirae
06-23-2017, 09:55 PM
Praise to this game's Free Gacha.. just missing Micah now.

http://i66.tinypic.com/14ddno2.png
The huge build times are a slight nuisance when you have nothing else to spend your coins on and sitting at full capacity. Maybe an alternate sink for coins would be nice to have whilst waiting for building tames.. Though in the big picture I wouldn't say it's that much of a deal-breaker. If it creates more incentive for people to actually buy gems to get the 'multiple building permit' for instance, then I'm all for it for the sake of the game's health. Or people can still take the 'slow' road and gather the gems needed themselves for free.

I mean it's not like you need the Legendary Gacha to get those heroes, as proven above ^^;

meltman
06-28-2017, 11:15 AM
Hmm.. I did preregister 2 days ago and now the game isn't shown anymore. Neither as an upcoming game nor as a active game... did it get canceled?

Can't say anthing about the gameplay but the art style looked really interesting...

Keyen
06-28-2017, 12:34 PM
The global release will be a bit later. The game is not canceled.

Aidoru
06-28-2017, 02:43 PM
They extended the soft launch/early access to add in more content and most likely fix bugs and what nots. Honestly, if you really want to play, I'd suggest you just grab a VPN and do so. The game has been in early access far too long IMO, anyone whose played from start is most likely done with the majority of what the game has to offer.

meltman
06-28-2017, 03:35 PM
They extended the soft launch/early access to add in more content and most likely fix bugs and what nots. Honestly, if you really want to play, I'd suggest you just grab a VPN and do so. The game has been in early access far too long IMO, anyone whose played from start is most likely done with the majority of what the game has to offer.

wow, thanks. I used a VPN and indeed now am able to play it. The only question I have: is it worth to invest any time in it right now or will there be a wipe of account data when the offical release starts?

Aidoru
06-28-2017, 03:58 PM
wow, thanks. I used a VPN and indeed now am able to play it. The only question I have: is it worth to invest any time in it right now or will there be a wipe of account data when the offical release starts?

Well from my past experience of nutaku games, they have not wiped any of their early access games. I highly doubt they would too considering there is already cash related buyable stuff, so players would send so many complaints if there wasn't some notification of some wipe. I've played just about every early access game since Kamihime and up, since that was the game that made me bother to download a VPN in the first place, just left it in place after and used it on future games. Not sure about any games before Kamihime.

meltman
06-29-2017, 11:20 AM
Well from my past experience of nutaku games, they have not wiped any of their early access games. I highly doubt they would too considering there is already cash related buyable stuff, so players would send so many complaints if there wasn't some notification of some wipe. I've played just about every early access game since Kamihime and up, since that was the game that made me bother to download a VPN in the first place, just left it in place after and used it on future games. Not sure about any games before Kamihime.

You never know... but I'll play this a bit and see how it turns out. The only thing is I'm getting disconnected from game fairly often which might be because of the VPN or my browser settings...

Aidoru
06-29-2017, 12:12 PM
You never know... but I'll play this a bit and see how it turns out. The only thing is I'm getting disconnected from game fairly often which might be because of the VPN or my browser settings...

That seems to be a new bug or something. Started getting it several times myself today. First time its ever happened.

Problem with this game is there is no notifications on updates, maybe on their discord if they have one, but aside from that, playing blind to updates. So new things and new errors might just appear out of no where.

Keyen
06-29-2017, 12:15 PM
You have a link to the discord inside the game:
https://discordapp.com/invite/sEQrHH9 (If you needed it)

Apochrophage
06-30-2017, 08:57 AM
This game seems to have come in and out of pre-register more times than any other game I have ever seen.

meltman
07-01-2017, 06:21 AM
The game ain't that bad so far but the fight feel like they could have more potential. At least until map 33 (that's where I am at the moment) you just place your troops and watch them overrun the enemy. If you can't get the 3 stars try again a while later...

RNG also seems to bless me. I've got Suzume from the free draws on my second day (which might be scripted like that because there was cutscene where she said we'll meet again pretty soon), then on third day I got Eli from the free draws and from the level 30 achievement I got Coral. No dupes so far...

One question: Is there a max level for the maiden? Did anybody already reach it?

edit: okay, seems Coral is also supposed to be a sure drop as she appears in some cutscene...

SeraSeraSera
07-01-2017, 06:59 AM
Max lvl is 60.

Normal mode campaign is pretty easy, but on hard mode you'll have to do a bit (a lot) more to get 3 stars.

The maidens you get from the free gacha aren't fixed, you just got lucky. There is an introductory scene for every one of them during the campaign, doesn't mean you'll get them. ;)

Aidoru
07-01-2017, 08:44 AM
Yea, the difference between the 2 difficulties is pretty big. Hard mode is basically glass cannon for most of your girls on anything that isn't an enemy weak against your element and until you decently upgrade your HP gear and cap out your girls. Almost any attack skill the enemy uses will 1 shot your unit, and if it's a aoe, kill any in range because their AI knows to only use their aoe skill when more than 1 target is in range.

Since you drew Eli, I would honestly use her over Suzume, at least level her. While Suzume is good and fine for the regular difficulty, her survivability plummets to ridiculous levels in hard cause her HP is god dam awful. You're gonna need a lot of dodge% on her to keep her alive since her dodge is high to begin with but not enough to keep her alive.

Keyen
07-01-2017, 09:18 AM
Almost any attack skill the enemy uses will 1 shot your unit, and if it's a aoe, kill any in range because their AI knows to only use their aoe skill when more than 1 target is in range.

Hum, no, they don't. AI is very simple "Skill is ready, use it".

Unregistered
07-01-2017, 09:48 AM
Hum, no, they don't. AI is very simple "Skill is ready, use it".

I think there were a couples stages with light mages that only use when enough people in range, Ill have to check later.

badcat
07-01-2017, 10:00 AM
Anyone know why I faked ip to Canada but still cant play the game. It always shows pre-register panel.

Keyen
07-01-2017, 10:12 AM
I think there were a couples stages with light mages that only use when enough people in range, Ill have to check later.

It's because like your own units, their skill is in CD at the start. (stage lvl 50, for instance).

Unregistered
07-22-2017, 05:56 AM
Any word on when the global release it?

Keyen
07-22-2017, 06:01 AM
None. And yeah, it's really annoying.

Czechern
07-22-2017, 09:14 PM
am i missing something? where is the game out currently? and how do i play it even if its not out where i am

Aidoru
07-22-2017, 09:36 PM
am i missing something? where is the game out currently? and how do i play it even if its not out where i am

Use a VPN and set it to Canada. It's been in early access for nearly or over 2 month I think? Feels as if they forgot about the game.

Czechern
07-22-2017, 09:46 PM
Use a VPN and set it to Canada. It's been in early access for nearly or over 2 month I think? Feels as if they forgot about the game.

whats a good vpn that isnt a virus

Aidoru
07-22-2017, 11:28 PM
whats a good vpn that isnt a virus

I just use Hola extension for chrome.

Keyen
07-23-2017, 04:47 AM
Use a VPN and set it to Canada. It's been in early access for nearly or over 2 month I think? Feels as if they forgot about the game.

Devs are telling us "soon, soon" since 3 weeks :/

Well, I use the time to upgrade the city, anyway.

Ramazan
07-23-2017, 04:51 AM
Farming started to be tiring but it doesnt take so much time anyways. Guess gotta be patient till release.

Unregistered
07-23-2017, 05:34 AM
My ping with a Canadian VPN server is terrible. Anyone knows which other countries is this available in?

Keyen
07-23-2017, 05:36 AM
Netherlands.

Anyway, you can disable the VPN as soon as you are in loading screen.

meltman
08-01-2017, 03:02 PM
So it seems the first event started + there's a new maiden as reward. Seems really grindy and the RNG in this... first you need to be lucky to get the drop then in some case you need to hope the crafting works too or it was all wasted. Well, let's see how it will go...

Aidoru
08-01-2017, 03:45 PM
You serious? Event and game still in early access?

Katina
08-01-2017, 04:21 PM
I think they forgot us^^

sniddy
08-01-2017, 04:25 PM
I forgot about it so fairs fair I guess

Aidoru
08-01-2017, 04:28 PM
Just means I have to turn on my VPN, which is annoying since it refreshes what ever other game I have up.

Event feels pretty awful too so far, I can't believe they decided to put a timer on each new stage you unlock for the event before you can even run it. Stage 4 has a 30 minute wait after unlocking. The fuck.

Hopefully the later stages have better rates or multiple drop or something, but RNG event crafting on top of RNG material drop is a terrible system.

Ramazan
08-01-2017, 05:11 PM
Event gives common girl and common girls can be obtained easily with free gacha, no need to be salty there. This is just a test i believe. Devs keep promising new stuff and they've shown the potential of the game.

Also timer before each stage perfectly makes sense since it shows out party is travelling to there, but an indicator like footsteps would be better rather than that circle (its bugged btw, always full) Also event lacks story which made us hard to understand my first statement (we had to ask devs if it was intended and they said yes)

Aidoru
08-01-2017, 06:38 PM
I was under the impression she was event only, but if she is in gacha, then that means I can put less effort into it. Still doesn't change my opinion on the event mechanics.

And no, timer makes no sense what so ever other than to try to get players to buy nutaku gold. The timer has doubled, the length they need to walk from one point makes no difference and the that's a terrible idea in the first place.

Stage 4 - 30 minutes to unlock
Stage 5 - 1 hour to unlock
Stage 6 - 2 hours to unlock

Ramazan
08-01-2017, 06:49 PM
Dev still need to earn money, right? :) and ur not forced to pay it or do the event at all since even edana can be gotten from free gacha. It'd be great for me if she was on daily login instead of one of water girls tho :C easier for me

Aidoru
08-01-2017, 07:09 PM
There are better ways to make money, the method they're using is just stupid.

The real question is whether or not all future event girls will be put into gacha or not, cause aside from the girls, most of the exchanges aren't even worth the effort and to add on, it doesn't help the event stages give no coins, exp or crystals. Giving less incentive to run it if you can just get the girls from daily log in or gatcha.

Unregistered
08-02-2017, 02:11 PM
I think it's pretty safe to assume that this grossly extended limited release will result in nearly zero non-VPN players playing this game when it does get released to everybody, especially since allowing people to spend money on it now will ensure there is no global reset. It's a shame...I kinda liked the preview artwork.

Nehok
08-02-2017, 03:41 PM
There has been changes to the event though, you can win XP and gold, and the new maiden seems to be easier to get!

Aidoru
08-02-2017, 05:25 PM
Definitely an improvement.

TiamatRoar
08-02-2017, 08:25 PM
Sheesh, global release taking so long that an entire event's coming and going before it happens...

Draghorn
08-03-2017, 08:14 AM
I think it's pretty safe to assume that this grossly extended limited release will result in nearly zero non-VPN players playing this game when it does get released to everybody, especially since allowing people to spend money on it now will ensure there is no global reset. It's a shame...I kinda liked the preview artwork.

Well I'm definitely going to try the game when it finally does come out. (Guess I'm one of the few people that will) I continue to grind pre-reg while waiting for the release. Wonder how much I've accumulated by now? (and how good it is?) I've even been continuing to grind pre-reg when the link has been removed from the front page. (The pre-reg page continues to work if you can navigate to it.)

Evilmind
08-03-2017, 10:12 AM
Well I'm definitely going to try the game when it finally does come out. (Guess I'm one of the few people that will) I continue to grind pre-reg while waiting for the release. Wonder how much I've accumulated by now? (and how good it is?) I've even been continuing to grind pre-reg when the link has been removed from the front page. (The pre-reg page continues to work if you can navigate to it.)

Will try it too, but it's a shame that it takes so long, you're pretty much f*** if there's heavy pvp...

Keyen
08-03-2017, 10:38 AM
I think it's pretty safe to assume that this grossly extended limited release will result in nearly zero non-VPN players playing this game when it does get released to everybody, especially since allowing people to spend money on it now will ensure there is no global reset. It's a shame...I kinda liked the preview artwork.
I perfectly understand this point of view. I went ahead and asked a dev about this:
5865

We will see.

Ramazan
08-03-2017, 07:25 PM
Its a test event people, otherwise why change the drop rates and keep fixing stuff in the middle of it? Artwork is just so good, gameplay definitely improving each passing day.

Draghorn
08-03-2017, 10:43 PM
Will try it too, but it's a shame that it takes so long, you're pretty much f*** if there's heavy pvp...

:D Hah, If there is PvP I was going to get F'ed anyway; since I'm a free player.

Unregistered
08-04-2017, 04:38 AM
You know, it's not even all about PvP or ideas for catching up or missing events...I'm simply losing interest in playing the game.

But still...'ideas?' They've spent all this time dicking around and putting off the global release, and they haven't progressed past the idea phase for dealing with the difference between normal and pre-release play? When I lead a group effort, if I can't finish on time, I need more than ideas to explain the situation to my customers. I need a plan. That plan needs to be communicated to those waiting for me to finish, not just some vague 'oh, you'll see' crap. And the plan needs to be fair both to those who have helped me work out the issues keeping the release from happening on time and to those who have been waiting for so long to try it. The longer the delay goes on, the harder it becomes to balance these competing interests, and the more involved and detailed the plan needs to be.

But brushing off the question with 'we have ideas' really just means 'we have no idea.'

Unregistered
08-06-2017, 11:10 AM
Personally, what i find the most annoying is the crafting chance. The way it's set up, they have you literally grind for days to have a chance to get pretty much anything useful.

Take the icon for example. That's 15 bugs and 10 torches. Best drop rate for torches is 25% on Stage 11, and Stage 9 has 80% bugs and 10% torches.

So, here goes:

Okay, we'll go for the bugs first. 15 bugs equals (15/0.8) 18,75, or 19 runs. Let's round up and say we get 2 torches along the way as well.

Next are the remaining torches. 8 of those, another (8/0.25) 32 runs. Total: 51 runs, for a total of 306 energy.

And THEN you get a 30% to actually get it, so that's an average of (306/0.3) 1.020 energy, or a player no-lifing it for 5.100 minutes, or 85 hours straight.

Yeeeaahhhh....

Unregistered
08-06-2017, 11:26 PM
Wait... not to be a douche but this game is still a thing? I could have sworn Nutaku canned the damn thing months back. Normally id laugh but considering how much the loyal players of this game have probably waited for an improved release I salute you and i hope the devs are able to give you what you wanted from the game.

Aidoru
08-07-2017, 12:03 AM
Yea, I kinda just stopped caring about 3 days into the event. Will still check it out when proper release but til then, not really interested enough to get back on.

Largepotato
08-07-2017, 04:51 AM
I log in once a day to collect the daily reward and do the free spins. Sometimes I even do some boss missions.

Unregistered
08-07-2017, 01:42 PM
Yeah, it's my inner completionist wanting to get all the shinies more than it has to do with the quality of the game itself to be honest. Most of the work in getting a *** rating involves moving all of your troops back all the time for Althea's heal to get off CD before your little lemmings can run straight into the AoE skills of the next cluster of enemies. That, and picking them up and manually dropping them off behind enemy barricades your tank is trying to go around (making it a valid drop location).

It's just that the whole event is just incredibly poorly thought out. I got the legendary wand (50% chance) on my first try so that's 500 gems saved i guess, but failed for the icon twice in a row since it's the only thing i can't actually get by playing the regular game. Going to give it one more go (about 8 torches left) and regardless of the outcome i'll go back to boss farming, it feels like i've been hitting nothing but Stage 11 for days now.

Also, is it me or did they up the blues in the Easy campaign?

Evilmind
09-03-2017, 11:48 AM
So any news from the side of those who can play it ?

Unregistered
09-03-2017, 10:15 PM
Dont even bother man its literally the LEAST played game on our side. Even freaking narborion is doing better! Just consider it deadware for all thats that worth.

Unregistered
09-03-2017, 11:33 PM
Dont even bother man its literally the LEAST played game on our side. Even freaking narborion is doing better! Just consider it deadware for all thats that worth.

I mean technically, it's only doing that badly because it's still restricted to vpn players only. It would probably be at least 1 space ahead of Narborion if it was launched.

Unregistered
09-04-2017, 11:20 PM
Oh, somebody still cares about this?

Unregistered
09-05-2017, 12:01 AM
Did the game ever come out?

Unregistered
09-05-2017, 12:56 AM
Still VPN only.

Smith009
09-06-2017, 11:38 PM
this game , accounts will be restarted ? , when it is official nutaku?

my level is 22etc... :(

Aidoru
09-07-2017, 01:43 AM
I haven't played this in weeks. Where does it say that? Cause that'd be pretty fucking dumb choice considering gacha was already available from the start and I'm sure some people have spent money.

Drayvhen
09-07-2017, 01:58 AM
They said in discord that they wont reset

Unregistered
09-08-2017, 01:06 PM
Which means nobody will start playing so far behind the power curve if they ever get their shit together.

Draghorn
09-10-2017, 04:57 AM
I still care and would try it if it ever comes out. -_-

I've been doing the daily pre-reg login the whole time. :rolleyes:

Katina
09-10-2017, 07:35 AM
Same here ^^

Hentaika
09-10-2017, 03:49 PM
Well, the people worrying about the game having any kind of 'power curve' and being behind - no need to worry, really.. The game as it is right now has no pvp at all(but it plans to get released...

Semaphore
09-10-2017, 04:00 PM
This is certainly not mononofu where you need to play 24/7 since release while spending $$$ each month to be able to do anything competitive.

Mononofu is pretty heavy on playing time, but it's been quite a while since spending money beyond the $5/month monthly pass made much of a difference. Most of the obvious whales haven't been competitive in PVP in a long time.

TiamatRoar
09-10-2017, 08:43 PM
By the time gets released it will be at least twice as easy to get the same stuff old players got, so I wouldn't be too discouraged.

A lot of what you just said means one should in fact get discouraged, albeit for entirely different reasons.

Unregistered
09-11-2017, 05:36 AM
All I heard was 'They have done absolutely fuckall with the extra time they've taken, and this game never should've passed beyond internal alpha testing in this state."

Unregistered
09-11-2017, 10:29 PM
Mononofu is pretty heavy on playing time, but it's been quite a while since spending money beyond the $5/month monthly pass made much of a difference. Most of the obvious whales haven't been competitive in PVP in a long time.

Mostly because it can't exactly be pure whaled, you still have to spend time on it albeit slightly less if you whale. And only very rare kinds of leviathans can actually afford to both 24/7 the game and spend 1000$+ monthly on it.

Add up to that fact the reason of game simply lacking any kind of meaningful content and overall low quality of like absolutely everything from art to gameplay to balance to timed events, you name anything and it's guaranteed to be a low quality copy of already low quality games wartune'sque(albeit much less relying on money to min max everything, I must admit that). And you can find a reason people are quitting it and the ones sticking to it are just those who love the competitive feeling it gives(just like those people still playing wartune after there are only like 1 guild worth of active players on the server remaining - makes only easier to feel that number 1 spot in rankings) and can afford to spend enough time on it to remain competitive... since it's another of those games where you don't ever catch up with others.. you either start near the very start or you are forever behind until the person who played longer decides to leave or dedicate less time. You might get incredibly lucky obviously, but I don't count that as a reliable solution.

But it's really not the best place to discuss mononofu, anyway.

I would certainly give crystal maidens a try if you want a more forgiving game in terms of need to spend time, unlocking scenes, less of a competitive game overall and instead a game that tests your actual skill - it's a really good test for reflexes/timing, just how a game is supposed to be. But if you just want to compete for numbers, certainly avoid it, since as it is right now, the multiplayer part is really lacking in the game and the arena won't be something as main goal in the game for certain.

The game won't be something you will spend your full day schedule on, that's why there is lack of discussion here - currently there is lack of content, since they plan to release all content they were working on for 2 month in official launch only and have enough events to keep going from for the launch for some time, so we only get to see a small part of what's to come. Same for the events - people have just nothing to do right now with no events, so most aren't even playing actively anymore with occasional login for bonus and maybe aiming to get an extra girl with daily login if you still don't have her.

And even when more stuff gets released, I would rather compare this game to Aigis - approximately the same kind of thing of logging in for 10-15 minutes is enough to beat the stages you need for at least next 10 hours if you want to. Just login, take rewards, play your energy bar and no need to worry about the timers.
Also same as aigis in the matter of game focusing on the single player, although arena and coop plays are in the plan according to devs.

The scenes are really beautiful and every girl feels this custom made feeling instead of heavy copy pasting and recoloring loads of other arts on nutaku give.
I wouldn't say the game is great, but it's certainly worth a try. Can easily play both this and aigis at the same time and still have a load of your free time IRL.

Unregistered
09-14-2017, 01:03 PM
Made a spreadsheet about stuff:

Contain information about characters (and an easy to use calculator if you want to mess with stuff) and also a database about equipment drop: location, stamina spending, droprate, and enough filters to compare lot of stuff.

Feedbacks appreciated

hey, seems the file was removed. Can you put it somewhere again, please?

Discoceris
09-16-2017, 04:04 AM
All I heard was 'They have done absolutely fuckall with the extra time they've taken, and this game never should've passed beyond internal alpha testing in this state."

Exactly my thoughts. If they're having this much trouble, then they should've put this game in closed beta, and disabled purchasing with real money. This whole thing just stinks and I don't doubt it won't get released to the general public (or they will re-release it in a different form, disallowing those who are already progressed from participating in that release)

sniddy
09-20-2017, 02:58 PM
If it ever comes out I'll try it

Unregistered
09-30-2017, 08:25 PM
For what it's worth, max level for 'element buildings' is level 10. There's a bit of a jump between 9 and 10 too.

Level 9:
- +125% element damage
- 125k gold to upgrade
- 7 days build time to upgrade

Level 10:
- +200% element damage
- 250k gold to upgrade
- 14 days build time to upgrade

I'm a F2P player and bought the multiple upgrade thing from the gem store for 1200, running the Hard boss zones 1/day and doing Quests for gems (still over 1300 left) will generally be enough to pay for the upgrades. I've got three different ones upgrading to 10 right now, one's still on 9 and the last one finished upgrading already. Once that's done all that's left is item storage and such so i guess that's the end of silver as a useful resource aside from Skill upgrades. Hard to beat a +75% damage boost though, and it should affect their attack skills as well.

Something to keep in mind if anyone else is considering buying the Multiple Upgrades thing. I can't be arsed to wait two weeks for a building to upgrade so i picked it up, but YMMV.

Unregistered
10-15-2017, 10:46 PM
Have the devs said anything in-game as to the status of this game?

Pre-registration page is still there, and appears to be working (though you have to know the link), but there has been no update on what I believe is their facebook page since like July.

Unregistered
10-16-2017, 12:29 AM
The way some people are still hard for this game after all the fucking over the devs have done to us makes it more appropriate to call it 'Crystal Methdens.'

Unregistered
10-16-2017, 03:47 AM
Nominally, only people in Canada have been (possibly) "fucked over" by the devs. I'd assume the reason people (like myself) are still interested is because as far as we're concerned it's pretty much a blank slate. With significantly better than average art for Nutaku.

I am sort of curious when they (Nutaku?) release early in one region, if there is any indication while playing that it's essentially a beta.

Unregistered
10-16-2017, 05:19 AM
Once they decided to not reset upon global release they fucked over everyone who was waiting for it, and every additional delay just pounds it deeper.

Unregistered
10-16-2017, 11:42 PM
I don't really see why that's an issue. Even if there's some form of competitive gameplay where being farther along is an advantage, that can easily be addressed in at least 3 ways off the top of my head.

1. Segregate the player base
2. Handicap the players
3. Give new players some sort of perk. (Unique Maidens or somesuch)

sniddy
10-17-2017, 01:01 AM
It's ok to do a limited beta of a few weeks, what we looking at now in months?

No reset mean there can NEVER be non segregated competitive events - I mean if it's like FKG where there is no competition then fine, if it's the top 1k players get X, then I'd stop playing 1st event

Unregistered
10-17-2017, 04:52 AM
It's ok to do a limited beta of a few weeks, what we looking at now in months?

No reset mean there can NEVER be non segregated competitive events - I mean if it's like FKG where there is no competition then fine, if it's the top 1k players get X, then I'd stop playing 1st event

Maybe, depends if having an experienced team is needed to get top 1k. Don't know much about game, (obviously) but if they did something where you need event units to get the most points or w/e, then old players would be on about the same footing as new, everybody starting off with "fresh" units.

Unregistered
10-17-2017, 06:42 AM
But they've had events already.

Largepotato
10-17-2017, 10:56 AM
Event

and it was a horrible grindfest that I doubt anyone bothered with.

Aidoru
11-18-2017, 04:14 PM
Like 2 weeks late news since I'm sure not much people care at this point but game supposedly going to come out December.
https://www.nutaku.net/blog/nutaku-pipeline-update/

Draghorn
11-18-2017, 10:37 PM
I had pretty much given up hope of ever seeing it released. I even stopped doing the pre-reg for a few weeks. We'll see if it ever really releases.

sniddy
11-20-2017, 12:58 PM
Right now...I don't care

If it's fun, not PVP based - then I'll see how it runs

Anything else, given the edge older players and even the people who've been diligent in daily rewarding - I'll just walk away

Sempai
11-21-2017, 12:51 PM
Months ago I had a lot of interest about this "future release" just having a look at the art, that show much more work than usual.

But as months have passed and all the players of the pre-release have to say is that it will be the biggest frind-fest of all Nutaku, I'll probable end passing it by even if it finaly comes out. The only thing I'm curious about now is if someone knows the name of the artist(s) to follow his/her/their work elsewere.

Unregistered
11-29-2017, 08:49 PM
Not sure anybody else noticed (or cares) but there is a banner for it back up on the Nutaku front page, saying it's coming in December.

Draghorn
11-30-2017, 12:56 PM
I started trying to remember to do the daily pre-reg so yeah sure, I try it when it comes out...if it ever comes out.

sniddy
11-30-2017, 02:27 PM
BUT what will they do about the pre-release and even the daily gift mountain for the faithful few?

Unregistered
12-03-2017, 11:15 AM
Not much?

Assuming there is any sort of PvP, they can simply relegate the Beta players to a different server, (like pretty much every browser "MMO" that's essentially a power race does. Starting off a new server every few weeks so new players stand a chance.)

As for those who have continued logging it to pre-register, they REALLY don't need to worry about. They have no unfair advantage, every single other person could have done the same. For those who didn't it's simply like joining a game shortly after it started.

IMO, the whole issue has been blown massively out of proportion.

Unregistered
12-04-2017, 11:23 AM
BUT what will they do about the pre-release and even the daily gift mountain for the faithful few?

you are assuming the "Faithful few" will GET that daily gift mountain. Although it was possible to find the pre-registration link after Nutaku stopped displaying it, there is no guarantee that the company has been keeping track, and didn't purge that list back in april, and restart it in November... Several of the other games on Nutaku regularly purge their gift lists over 30 days, and I had thought Storage problems was one of the reasons Crystal Maidens has been in Alpha 2 so long...

Unregistered
12-05-2017, 11:19 AM
you are assuming the "Faithful few" will GET that daily gift mountain. Although it was possible to find the pre-registration link after Nutaku stopped displaying it, there is no guarantee that the company has been keeping track, and didn't purge that list back in april, and restart it in November... Several of the other games on Nutaku regularly purge their gift lists over 30 days, and I had thought Storage problems was one of the reasons Crystal Maidens has been in Alpha 2 so long...

Maybe. I guess I assumed they were simply adjusting the amount of each currency in your "account", and then you'd get one message when you start that says "As a bonus for preregistering, you're starting off with extra currency", possibly calculating what you have vs. what is normal to specify just how much extra. Giving you each one as an individual gift would have just been nuts, even if the pre-reg period was only a month. (which is normalish)

I suppose players who are in Canada may know/remember how they handled it though for sure.

TiamatRoar
12-05-2017, 07:03 PM
They updated the pre-reg to also give a +1 ring of patience.

........well, they get brownie points for a sense of humour.

Caitlenren
12-06-2017, 08:27 AM
Top Up feature and VIP bonuses. LOL

Unregistered
12-06-2017, 11:33 AM
They ought to be paying us Nutaku gold to play it at this point.

Caitlenren
12-06-2017, 11:43 AM
Now, this looks like those asset flips all over the internet.

Hurricane
12-11-2017, 04:08 AM
Finally, it's open! So run and take all this ton of pre-reg stuff (if there's still someone around XD). Soft-launch though, we'll have to wait in order to see a final launch lol

SecretiveGamer
12-11-2017, 09:41 AM
Finally, it's open! So run and take all this ton of pre-reg stuff (if there's still someone around XD). Soft-launch though, we'll have to wait in order to see a final launch lol

Finally, I can try out the game. Lemme just go log in and... You have been disconnected from the server. Welp, time to wait some more.

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 10:07 AM
What the crap is this game? The women remind me of the ganados from Resident evil 4... I can't jerk off to this without fearing a chainsaw behind me!!

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 10:07 AM
after logging in everyday since pre-reg ... turns out all of the daily chests combined is about the same as the first 1-2 hours of playing.

RIP dedication


not sure what's going to be permanent, but currently max energy is capped at 25 and coins is capped at 2.5k.

have only gotten to account lvl 9 and only did the first 5 missions though. not sure what will unlock over time.


still enjoying the battles though and the art is good. gonna stick with it for the time being. interesting to see where this game will go

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 10:56 AM
not sure what's going to be permanent, but currently max energy is capped at 25 and coins is capped at 2.5k.

have only gotten to account lvl 9 and only did the first 5 missions though. not sure what will unlock over time.
You should start upgrading buildings in the village. At level 5 you can raise coin cap to 5k. At level 1 energy to 30. There are other buildings that boost elemental damage, increase amount of items you can have, increase cash income after battles, etc.

Aidoru
12-11-2017, 10:59 AM
Haven't tried this for many months so some things I missed out on probably got done before this soft launch.

2 of the 3 free draws gave me "epic" rarity stuff. One being just an equip and other being Luna. Guess that's one way to start.

Did they changed Helen's art? I don't remember her face being so feminine, not that that's not a bad thing or might just be remembering things wrong. I also see they haven't added any new girls.

Not sure when they added in a VIP system, I heavily dislike these. Also seems to be a colosseum which I would assume is PvP related. Definitely going for the whale eccentric game I see.

Did not get the ring of patience for pre-registering again but I guess since I played the early access, it might not have counted. Though a bit weird since it does for other games I've played. Maybe for actual launch but whatever.

And what's even more funny, despite all these months, the only new feature I actually see is challenge mode which might have been in before soft launch, which honestly doesn't even add much to the game and eventually requires you to have all the girls in the first place.

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 11:30 AM
I heard that there are alot of stuff coming, they just did not launch everything on the first day.

Aidoru
12-11-2017, 11:43 AM
When the game is delayed as long as this has been, one would expect some notable improvements, even if it's the first day, it's the launch of the game and there aren't any. Leaves one to question what they've been doing.

Some patch notes or something would be nice.

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 12:59 PM
Here it loads super slowly... actually I can't login... is it just me?

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 01:11 PM
Here it loads super slowly... actually I can't login... is it just me?

I'm logging in just fine. ~20-30 seconds loading tops

Kotono
12-11-2017, 05:38 PM
I didn't play it very much in beta, but the only thing I can notice that actually changed was the art for Helen.

It still loads slow. Is sluggish at best in chrome, and still immediately disconnects me when I try to use firefox.
There is a lot that still needs fixed for it to be truly playable.

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 06:59 PM
Loading doesn't feel any different than I remember it. A unity error running it once but that might be because I have another game up.

I do agree that it doesn't feel like they improved on anything for the amount of time they had to keep it in beta. I can't see really see myself caring much for the game at this point.

TiamatRoar
12-11-2017, 07:02 PM
Looks like the only thing they did was lay down the foundations for a VIP monetization money grubbing system and a PvP Pay-to-win (when some people got several MONTHS worth of head start) system, neither of which were completed enough to be implemented yet anyways.

*clap clap*

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 07:08 PM
Is anyone else getting this error when trying to load the game?

uncaught typeerror cannot read property 'addeventlistener' of null

if so, is there any way around it?

SecretiveGamer
12-11-2017, 07:13 PM
Is anyone else getting this error when trying to load the game?

uncaught typeerror cannot read property 'addeventlistener' of null

if so, is there any way around it?

Guess I'm not the only one having this problem as well. Is this game even ready to be released yet?

TiamatRoar
12-11-2017, 07:49 PM
Try clearing your cache.


Hmm, combat is kinda frustrating due to how FAST your girls die, depriving you of three stars. Only four maidens in a battle brings to question how much of a point there is to collecting characters in a waifu-collecting game (and then there's the fact that there are only fifteen maidens total).

Ah, guess I'll just stick to Armor Blitz. Similar enough gameplay except you can't drag and drop a girl already in combat (but that also means you don't have to worry about dragging out of the way of those ridiculous insta-kill AoE spells) and a lot larger roster and in-battle roster.

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 10:26 PM
Is anyone else getting this error when trying to load the game?

uncaught typeerror cannot read property 'addeventlistener' of null

if so, is there any way around it?

I was able to play fine this morning before work for ~15 minutes minutes, but now that I'm home I'm getting the same thing. Figured it's because I'm playing FFXIV on the same computer (different monitor) using up too many resources. Figured I'd try again when I get to a break. (FFXIV has maintenance in like 30 minutes)

Draghorn
12-11-2017, 10:37 PM
When you get that error try pressing Ctrl + F5. That fixed it for me. Seems there was a bit of an update and the browser needs help blowing out the old data. :/

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 11:01 PM
When you get that error try pressing Ctrl + F5. That fixed it for me. Seems there was a bit of an update and the browser needs help blowing out the old data. :/

Curious, first time I tried that it simply change the logo to a yellow running mage, but got the error at about same time. Next couple times same thing, then did it once more before giving up and it worked.

Unregistered
12-11-2017, 11:53 PM
Hmm, now that I've had some time with the game, I think my biggest gripe is it's extremely hard to pick up the one girl you actually want to pick up.

It would be a significant improvement if you could pickup a girl via her portrait at the bottom even when already deployed. (and yes, I send them that feedback)

Largepotato
12-12-2017, 01:57 AM
Try clearing your cache.


Hmm, combat is kinda frustrating due to how FAST your girls die, depriving you of three stars. Only four maidens in a battle brings to question how much of a point there is to collecting characters in a waifu-collecting game (and then there's the fact that there are only fifteen maidens total).

Ah, guess I'll just stick to Armor Blitz. Similar enough gameplay except you can't drag and drop a girl already in combat (but that also means you don't have to worry about dragging out of the way of those ridiculous insta-kill AoE spells) and a lot larger roster and in-battle roster.

There are new challenge quests that have restrictions. You need lots of different class & element girls to complete them all.

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 02:23 AM
Just curious, I assume the 10+1 premium with legendary guaranteed, there is no guarantee the legendary is actually a maiden?

(doubt anybody has tried it, but doesn't hurt to ask)

Bruceski
12-12-2017, 02:50 AM
Is there really just a trickle of gems that makes any gacha other than the free one pretty much unobtainable?

Ladyhawke
12-12-2017, 04:23 AM
Game is literally unplayable due to being unable to quickly complete battles you've already won 3 stars on. And considering how atrocious gear drop rates are, such an option is practically a must. The game got mindbogglingly boring quick because I have to manual fight each and every map I want to try and grind some crummy equipment on. No, thanks. I don't enjoy the art style enough to subject myself to such constant torture.

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 04:29 AM
I really don't understand why they chose to force your units to run blindly forward at all times. It's anti-fun. It removes positioning and is just bad design. Cut the lane game shit for a simple Dungeon Siege style control scheme and you'd have yourself a game. Also the item system is... bad. Drops being map specific means sacrificing xp to do map 1-1 ten times to get that one damn necklace. Just... the f'k? No. No I'm not doing that. How is that even going to work if they add new units? Art's good but everything else feels kind of spartan and linear.

Crusher
12-12-2017, 06:56 AM
The game is kinda... bad. Leaving aside the time wasted daily for bonus i didn't get,i'm disappointed.
We waited so much for THAT thing? A crappy childish manual game?
Go home devs. I played similar game engines ages ago.

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 11:24 AM
Honestly, I don't mind the gameplay all that much, I think the whole left to right thing adds a weird sort of strategy aspect you wouldn't otherwise get. Get one guy far enough forward so you can deploy others behind a wall sort of thing.

That said, yes. I don't really *want* deep gameplay from my web games, I have real non-web games for that. These are stuff I play while waiting for loads or spawns or whatnot in other real games.

(Note: I haven't made any attempt whatsoever to grind for gear, I just take what I get. So far the only "good" gear has come from the gacha, which I expect will continue to be true.)

And yeah, a way to quick play missions you've already done would be nice, though I can think of a reason why they may not have wanted to. It would make leveling underleveled maidens significantly easier.

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 11:32 AM
game gets to 90% then just resets and load again to 90% over and over again some one know what might fix this

Tanatael
12-12-2017, 11:53 AM
I didn't manage to figure out how you get skill points. Anybody care to explain?

Largepotato
12-12-2017, 12:26 PM
I didn't manage to figure out how you get skill points. Anybody care to explain?

They regenerate on a timer.

One of the buildings increases the available skill points cap.

ltmeowser
12-12-2017, 01:25 PM
Has anyone been able to clear chapter 30? That boss is ridiculous and pretty much one shots any party member I have.

Evilmind
12-12-2017, 01:38 PM
I'm not quite sure i got all the pre registration bonus i click for, anyone else ? What about those time rings ?

And if they think about putting some pvp fight with the time between new players and the beta... well, the game will die soon.

Draghorn
12-12-2017, 02:50 PM
I think the Nature gem part of my pre-reg bonus got wiped out by the tutorial...maybe.

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 08:26 PM
game gets to 90% then just resets and load again to 90% over and over again some one know what might fix this

when that happened to me I had to clear my cache.

Bruceski
12-12-2017, 10:00 PM
I'm not quite sure i got all the pre registration bonus i click for, anyone else ? What about those time rings ?

And if they think about putting some pvp fight with the time between new players and the beta... well, the game will die soon.

I got a legendary sword but not the ring of patience, and the dribble of gems/coins was so small I haven't a clue if I got any.

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 10:34 PM
is it me, or are enemies REALLY overpowered? I know someone already brought up the fact its heavily P2P, and I suppose enemies instagibbing my characters is so I won't get 3 stars easily.

Kotono
12-12-2017, 10:47 PM
just do older stages to level your girls, and come back.
boss stage is great for leveling on, but can do once per hour

Aidoru
12-12-2017, 10:54 PM
is it me, or are enemies REALLY overpowered? I know someone already brought up the fact its heavily P2P, and I suppose enemies instagibbing my characters is so I won't get 3 stars easily.

The P2P factor isn't whats killing you. All you need to do is level up your girls, that's literally it.

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 11:17 PM
not excited to hear about grinding old levels but thanks for the quick reply. Don't have alot of free time to min max anymore

Unregistered
12-12-2017, 11:21 PM
My first try was very close win, had level 20 heroes. Make sure to farm those elemental crystals in one of the areas for your fighters. They give a nice boost when you invest them to unlock scenes....

Selius
12-13-2017, 10:12 AM
stat gains from levels are not linear.

you get much much more hp and damage going from level 30-31 than you do going from 20-21.

if you are hardstuck at a boss fight you can basically level up your girls twice and go from OH GOD HELP ME to shitstomping it.

also just to brag :cool: i rolled the 5k gems gacha and pulled micah. feelsgoodman

Unregistered
12-13-2017, 10:30 AM
Unless they've changed gacha, you can get her from the free rolls so it's not so much bragging rights. I'm sure some who've played from beta have gotten every girl without spending anything..

Selius
12-13-2017, 01:22 PM
8107

max affection helen versus 0 affection eli

more hp even with less affection

Unregistered
12-13-2017, 11:06 PM
I'm getting MUCH less enamored of the left to right thing. It wouldn't be so bad if they were all the samish speed, but as it is it's a game of whack-a-mole combined with herding cats. Keep dragging the medium/fast speed DPS so they don't race ahead of the slow tank and get slaughtered.

Never mind having difficulty picking the right one up and dragging it to begin with.

Unregistered
12-14-2017, 01:53 AM
I'm getting MUCH less enamored of the left to right thing. It wouldn't be so bad if they were all the samish speed, but as it is it's a game of whack-a-mole combined with herding cats. Keep dragging the medium/fast speed DPS so they don't race ahead of the slow tank and get slaughtered.

Never mind having difficulty picking the right one up and dragging it to begin with.

It gets old really fast. All it does is force you to drag your units back to the start after each battle so you can heal before your heavily damaged units draw more fire. They're trying to ape the mechanics of a crappy lane game when with only marginally more control afforded to the player they could have a reasonably amusing RTS. It doesn't help that the control responsiveness in these unity web player monstrosities is almost always utterly wretched.

Evilmind
12-14-2017, 10:03 AM
One question for the beta players. A maiden could be drawn just one time or multiples ? I though i read somewhere it's easy to get them all cause you can only draw them once. Well if that's the case it's not true anymore and a big kick in the nuts for new players (i draw helen 2 times already, transformed in 10 fire crystal each)

Unregistered
12-14-2017, 10:46 AM
One question for the beta players. A maiden could be drawn just one time or multiples ? I though i read somewhere it's easy to get them all cause you can only draw them once. Well if that's the case it's not true anymore and a big kick in the nuts for new players (i draw helen 2 times already, transformed in 10 fire crystal each)

You've read wrong. Chance to redraw a dupe girl has been there since beta. You just get crystals for getting a dupe girl.

Unregistered
12-14-2017, 11:00 AM
I'll admit I only tried retreating to heal once, but as a result I lost because I ran out of time, so I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is. <br />
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Anyways, different question. Is it just me or...

Evilmind
12-14-2017, 01:23 PM
You've read wrong. Chance to redraw a dupe girl has been there since beta. You just get crystals for getting a dupe girl.

Ah ok, my bad, but goods news for me ^^