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GDS
05-23-2017, 03:48 PM
So we have the brand new money animation when you collect from your harem girls and I have to say WHY? isn't this something that should be an everything in the game is done we are just putting on the pretty things now?


Any rate would be really nice if you would fix the market now and pachinko

a buy x higher than 10 would be very nice like a 50 and a 100

and for god's sake the market

for the record, there is a bug on the books where sometimes you can not scroll it if you have yellow books in your list.

so let me point out an example of the problem with the current setup of the market.

take 5m from the time you start to buy x10 pachinko until the time you manage to sell everything back at the market currently its taking 50ish mins of time
now part of the problem is you can only buy at x10 and every damn time you have to wait for the dam animation to almost finish till you get the next button.

but a big part of the problem is the market you have to sell everything at x1 item and there seems to be some kinda forced delay of about 35 seconds per item sold. sometimes it can is ever worse when there is some kinda server lag going on.

so some simple fixes may be

1 turn off all animations option I for one would love this I could care less about animated money counters or floating money from collecting it or waiting for the x10 pachinko to finish its thing so I can do it over again

2 high multiplier for pachinko x50 x100

3 at the very least a sell all of an item option, currently its got to look something like this

ItemValue divided by 2 = SellItemValue + PlayerbankValue = PlayerBankvalue

if you change the line to something like this

ItemValue devided by 2 = SellItemValue multiplyed by ItemNumberCount = SellItemValue + PlayerbankValue = PlayerBankvalue

so yeah basic change in the code note I did not add div by 0 error code but I'm sure you already have that dealt with changing the code maybe a 5 min job changing the UI maybe 20 mins including the coding needed for the UI

later I would really like to see a sell everything I have an option for each shop and a sell x number of items where x equals the value the player enters 1 to 1000 kinda thing

the time it took to make the floating money going from the harem girls you could have done this to.

vem
05-23-2017, 08:48 PM
That's how development works. If I'm working on a project and there's a longstanding bug that I have no idea how to approach or even reproduce, it won't stop me from adding a little thing here and there that doesn't take much time. Personally I've never encountered the scrolling bug, there was always a small scrollbar on the right.

JessieChan
05-24-2017, 02:34 AM
Hello!

Dear, GDS (guest),

As @vem pointed out, yes, this is how the development works. There are few bugs, that happen only to few players and the team does tons of tries in order to reproduce them, but sometimes it's just not possible. About the bug you had, what will help us is to: PM me with screenshot, or even better a recorded screen of when the bug is happening, plus information about the device you are using and what kind of explorer you are using: Chrome, Mozilla, Vivaldi, etc.

Personally, as a player, when the games I play update and add more content or art, I feel really good, so, personally, I don't understand your frustration on the Harem animation.
But know that your report, is sent to the dev team and they will have a look into it. Count on me for bringing the topic and also the answer.

Best,
Jessie

BgSt
05-24-2017, 02:49 AM
a buy x higher than 10 would be very nice like a 50 and a 100
...
... the problem is you can only buy at x10 and every damn time you have to wait for the dam animation to almost finish till you get the next button.

Here's a hint: Go to town, ctrl-click on Pachinko 10 times to open 10 new tabs on the pachinko. Go to the first new tab, click "10 games" play. Before the animation even starts, ctrl-tab to get to the next new pachinko. Click, ctrl-tab, click, ctrl-tab, click, ctrl-tab, click. 100 pachinko games in 20 seconds. Then go and close all the tabs you just made. Easy!


ItemValue divided by 2 = SellItemValue + PlayerbankValue = PlayerBankvalue

if you change the line to something like this

ItemValue devided by 2 = SellItemValue multiplyed by ItemNumberCount = SellItemValue + PlayerbankValue = PlayerBankvalue

so yeah basic change in the code note I did not add div by 0 error code but I'm sure you already have that dealt with changing the code maybe a 5 min job changing the UI maybe 20 mins including the coding needed for the UI

I love to see people with no idea tell devs how easy it'll be to make some "small" change.

HH tracks individual items in your stock, so when you click "sell" it doesn't just tell the server "sell one of my Greaves" or whatever, it says "sell my greaves ID #62892592". This stops cheaters from double-selling. So it's not as simple as you wish it was, they'd need a new API endpoint to handle a whole new "sell everything" action.

soviras
05-24-2017, 07:07 AM
Hello!

Dear, GDS (guest),

As @vem pointed out, yes, this is how the development works. There are few bugs, that happen only to few players and the team does tons of tries in order to reproduce them, but sometimes it's just not possible. About the bug you had, what will help us is to: PM me with screenshot, or even better a recorded screen of when the bug is happening, plus information about the device you are using and what kind of explorer you are using: Chrome, Mozilla, Vivaldi, etc.

Personally, as a player, when the games I play update and add more content or art, I feel really good, so, personally, I don't understand your frustration on the Harem animation.
But know that your report, is sent to the dev team and they will have a look into it. Count on me for bringing the topic and also the answer.

Best,
Jessie

My only issue with the new animation is that it sometimes causes a bit of slowdown when quickly clicking multiple girls in a row.

GDS
05-24-2017, 06:21 PM
Hello!

Dear, GDS (guest),

As vem pointed out, yes, this is how the development works. There are few bugs, that happen only to few players and the team does tons of tries in order to reproduce them, but sometimes it's just not possible. About the bug you had, what will help us is to: PM me with screenshot, or even better a recorded screen of when the bug is happening, plus information about the device you are using and what kind of explorer you are using: Chrome, Mozilla, Vivaldi, etc.

Personally, as a player, when the games I play update and add more content or art, I feel really good, so, personally, I don't understand your frustration on the Harem animation.
But know that your report, is sent to the dev team and they will have a look into it. Count on me for bringing the topic and also the answer.

Best,
Jessie
yeah if I had a way to reliably get yellow items in books to reproduce this bug id love to but as it is I will have to wait till I have more than one yellow book item again to even try and make this happen I can tell you im on mozilla and a linux computer runing windows 10 in a VR window

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Here's a hint: Go to town, ctrl-click on Pachinko 10 times to open 10 new tabs on the pachinko. Go to the first new tab, click "10 games" play. Before the animation even starts, ctrl-tab to get to the next new pachinko. Click, ctrl-tab, click, ctrl-tab, click, ctrl-tab, click. 100 pachinko games in 20 seconds. Then go and close all the tabs you just made. Easy!



I love to see people with no idea tell devs how easy it'll be to make some "small" change.

HH tracks individual items in your stock, so when you click "sell" it doesn't just tell the server "sell one of my Greaves" or whatever, it says "sell my greaves ID #62892592". This stops cheaters from double-selling. So it's not as simple as you wish it was, they'd need a new API endpoint to handle a whole new "sell everything" action.

without seeing the code I can't well say the exact way it has to be done.... all it giving is a valid way to change the basics of what should be a straightforward code segment or module.

that being said all this data you are talking about should be server side so it should be able to verify all these id numbers and still do the math to sell them all with again minimal recoding if this takes more than 5 mins to code and ill be generious here 20 mins to bug test then you need a new coder. the UI part i cant say i not that good with them at lest not for a web page. once you start getting into html asp and all that crap itsd well beyond me

zarelion
05-24-2017, 11:12 PM
what GDS said,

Although I won't be as critical as saying that it would only take five minutes, but that's just calling a sql deletion request on item's type for the demanding player ID in the PlayerXItem table. In fact such a function would relieve the server from having to make the dozen of selections required by an autoclicker or a stubborn player deleting stacks of items.

That unique ID thing is irrelevant as to security, it's the server that ultimately decides what can be done or not, the client only makes "requests".

GDS
05-25-2017, 04:27 PM
what GDS said,

Although I won't be as critical as saying that it would only take five minutes, that's just calling a SQL deletion request on item's type for the demanding player ID in the PlayerXItem table. In fact, such a function would relieve the server from having to make the dozen of selections required by an autoclicker or a stubborn player deleting stacks of items.

That unique ID thing is irrelevant as to security, it's the server that ultimately decides what can be done or not, the client only makes "requests".

shakes head god I still remember having to do SQL when I got my IT degree I so so so don't miss it lol this is why I'm a network eng and not a programmer lol love my coding small little apps but yeah hate data base recall threads lol

zarelion
05-27-2017, 06:32 AM
Lol I leave you the routing tables for the sql requests any day !

GDS
05-27-2017, 06:23 PM
Lol I leave you the routing tables for the SQL requests any day!

no your thinking of access control lists those are a freaking pain in the but you get 1 thing wrong on some router somewhere and you spend days trying to find out wtf is going on in the network lol

Eversor86
05-29-2017, 11:26 PM
I wouldn't ask why they added the money animation thingy instead of repairing bugs, I would ask why the animation shows the money going to girls instead to our wallet, when its money we "get from them". Makes kinda no sense.

As a side note, do people really play normal pachinko so much to whine that 10 at once is not enough? Also whats that 35 seconds delay between selling things OP said about? I can mass spam sell and sell hundreds of things in that 35 seconds time frame. So instead of asking for "sell all" OP should check his game/pc/browser cause that delay thingy must be a bug.

BgSt
05-30-2017, 03:38 AM
I wouldn't ask why they added the money animation thingy instead of repairing bugs, I would ask why the animation shows the money going to girls instead to our wallet, when its money we "get from them". Makes kinda no sense.

Of all the things in this game universe that make no sense, that's the one that bugs you? :)


As a side note, do people really play normal pachinko so much to whine that 10 at once is not enough?

I assume that's for the "Show off in the casino" contest, where you need to hammer the pachinko to get points. But it's simple enough to play lots of pachinko fast if you know how to operate your web browser so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kaos
05-30-2017, 04:44 AM
Also whats that 35 seconds delay between selling things OP said about? I can mass spam sell and sell hundreds of things in that 35 seconds time frame. So instead of asking for "sell all" OP should check his game/pc/browser cause that delay thingy must be a bug.

Related :

yeah if I had a way to reliably get yellow items in books to reproduce this bug id love to but as it is I will have to wait till I have more than one yellow book item again to even try and make this happen I can tell you im on mozilla and a linux computer runing windows 10 in a VR window


Here, I wouldn't say it is the fault of the game.

Asking for this kind of specs optimisation doesn't make any sense. No company will optimise for this kind of situation. Even VR specialised companies won't.

zarelion
05-30-2017, 07:45 AM
What BgSt said, you need to hammer the pachinko to win those contests. And while you may use browser tricks to win these contests:
-should a game require outside tricks to win?
-those tricks you can't use on mobile.

As to the selling speed, neither chrome nor firefox can sell at a fast enough speed to get rid of the thousand of items after a pachinko contest. The requests end stacking up and bloating the game just like buying stats used to do(still do?). And you need an autoclicker to do that unless you want to try your luck at RSI or carpal tunnel syndrome.

Eversor86
05-30-2017, 10:52 AM
Of all the things in this game universe that make no sense, that's the one that bugs you? :)

No there is far more stuff that bugs me. Hence why I made separate game mechanics asking thread. I asked about that money thing here mostly as a joke ;)


I assume that's for the "Show off in the casino" contest, where you need to hammer the pachinko to get points. But it's simple enough to play lots of pachinko fast if you know how to operate your web browser so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah. I know people need it for pachinko contests. I just don't give a crap about contests. I just play like I did before them. And I still end up with first or second rewards quite often. So what I was asking is more like do people really need to win in those contests so bad for ego/e-penis that they actually create threads on forums to whine that game mechanics of pachinko playing and stuff selling makes it hard for them?

Especially if they play in an odd way that gives them 35 second lags on selling stuff, where I once auto-clicered and sold over 1k foods I don't give crap about in a matter of seconds and didnt have a single issue doing so. Thou I play on a clean non-addons past mouse gestures chrome installed just for Nutaku (use FF for my normal browsing).