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Unregistered
06-06-2017, 12:10 AM
Spent at least 480 stamina last week, and 320 just now tonight, but haven't gotten a single level 100 blue bloom dragon. Before these past 2 weeks, I don't remember having this happen before. Is this just bad luck or is this happening to other people? I haven't tried other colored dragons, since I have plenty of them from the previous events. I'm going to use a Flower Gem to restore stamina and try again.

paraphin
06-06-2017, 12:32 AM
i didn't go for dragons the last 2 or 3 weeks but i know what you mean.
but i don't think it's abnormal. sometimes i used the whole daily gain of stamina and refilled 3-4 time to get 4 or 5 dragons.
and its everytime the same:
i need 4 more dragons and start running. first 6 runs: no dragon at all. then i get 2 at once. another few runs without one before the semi-last one appeard. "one to go" i think... and then comes the frustration. 1 refill and one more refill and another gem burned down... and suddenly, the first run with the last refill i get 2 dragons at once again... so one more dragon than i need -.-

long story short:
i hate farming dragons more than farming manyus D:

Unregistered
06-06-2017, 12:37 AM
Well for some reason, I finally got some dragons. 4 of them, after spending 400 more stamina. Or 1 lvl 100 dragon per 3.75 advanced missions. I seem to get bad RNG on rewards. Still haven't gotten any 6-star girls after 360 days, although I haven't tried in a while, because I gave up and am just spending my FG on the coin and manyu missions, trying to OCD at least one of every knight I have to max level.

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D:

Oh, I guess it's not so strange, then. Maybe I'm actually lucky, for this to happen to me after 360 days of playing.

AgentFakku
06-06-2017, 02:59 AM
I just farm 1 Lvl 100 Dragon once a week for any color if I have any stam left: not too picky w/ 80 or 50 maps

yeah, pickings are slim

game2534
06-06-2017, 03:17 AM
don't worry, it's pretty normal. lv.100 Dragon drop rate is pretty much a whack. So any event you can trade for dragon is godsend.

Unregistered
06-06-2017, 06:56 AM
Strangely enough, the last two times I needed to evolve a girl, I needed the midgrade dragons, not the 100 levels. And the map decided to drop 100 lvls and lvl 5s, not what I needed, for the 80 pt. map....

Zandel
06-06-2017, 07:16 AM
I find the 80 stam map has better drop rates but even then when I get a new 6* and need 5 lvl 100 I do not expect to evolve that girl for 3 weeks for so....

sniddy
06-07-2017, 11:57 PM
On Tuesday I got 3 blues for 160 stamina

Months ago when farming self same blues it took 800 for 2

Sometimes RNjesus is in a giving mood, other times you will be punished

Bloodsport Bloom
06-08-2017, 12:05 AM
No nerf.

Just RNGesus punishing you.

Unregistered
06-08-2017, 01:03 AM
I must be a sinner in RNGsus eyes because i havent seen a dragon in literally over a month, at this point ive accepted my faith, so no dude, its not a nerf, just our luck x-x I bet i could pull a 3 star in a guaranteed 6 star gacha.

Discoceris
06-08-2017, 10:58 PM
I find the 80 stam map has better drop rates but even then when I get a new 6* and need 5 lvl 100 I do not expect to evolve that girl for 3 weeks for so....

It's more like the pool for anything besides low level increases. An example (just an example)

MapLowMid+HighTotal1070301002060401004050501008040 60100
As you can see, by lowering the drop rates for the crap, you just increase the chances of seeing other drops more. Gives you the illusion that you get increased chances of the level 100 evolution material, but the percentage may still stay the same regardless: I'm assuming around 5% for level 100 evo mat on every map. This probably explains the still high frequency of crap mats on 80 stam maps...

Also you can be quite devious and say with a straight face, "no you're wrong, the rate of appearance for level 100 is 15%". If you use the math above, you can get away by saying that.

15% of a 30% pool = 4.5% actual
15% of a 40% pool = 6.0% actual
15% of a 50% pool = 7.5% actual
15% of a 60% pool = 9.0% actual

I'm willing to bet that they use similar math for gachas as well, because there's no law that tells them how to breakdown a chance of appearance, so companies could say that the rate they give you is "exactly how we programmed it", not the rate after you run it through a formula. Because, after all, the company is under no obligation to turn over real life data to corroborate the publicly listed rates.

Zandel
06-09-2017, 07:57 AM
All I know for sure is that if I spend 720 stam on 80 maps I get more lvl 100 dragons than spending 750 stam on 50 maps.

I did test that a few times when I was needing all colour drags and since then I just go with 80s.

Also as a note... I have never seen a lvl 100 drag from the 25 maps, not saying it cannot happen but I have not seen it.