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DarkMasterX
06-12-2017, 03:26 PM
So, I've been playing for over a month. I have a friend who started two days ago. I just realized now that this game has two points where it is severely lacking. I am thus going to address two flaws...

BgSt
06-12-2017, 06:52 PM
You can already buy energy to progress the story, for kobans. So you're saying "take a thing that can make revenue for the developers and make it free instead". Personally, I think the reason they force story progression to be so slow is to stop everyone from just charging through and piling up at the end, waiting for new chapters to be released, then getting bored and not coming back. This way, they hold you in the game coming back to click along a couple of times a day, while the devs work on a real combat system or whatever they're doing.

Everyone agrees the game is unbalanced in a lot of ways, but removing a revenue stream and removing a source of player "stickiness" isn't going to help.

DarkMasterX
06-12-2017, 07:23 PM
You can already buy energy to progress the story, for kobans. So you're saying "take a thing that can make revenue for the developers and make it free instead". Personally, I think the reason they force story progression to be so slow is to stop everyone from just charging through and piling up at the end, waiting for new chapters to be released, then getting bored and not coming back. This way, they hold you in the game coming back to click along a couple of times a day, while the devs work on a real combat system or whatever they're doing.

Everyone agrees the game is unbalanced in a lot of ways, but removing a revenue stream and removing a source of player "stickiness" isn't going to help.

That's a fair comeback. However with Epic Pachinko, refreshing the stores, auto-collecting from your harem, instantly completing missions, and changing opponents in the arena, you could argue there would still be a lot of use for Kobans. And arguably, it's just as boring watching a sex scene in slow motion. Slower motion. You would have to play the game continuously for at least 48 hours to get through a quest. Longer for people who have school, jobs, or social matters to attend. I'm more concerned with them retaining new players than keeping old ones, because the new ones will have more interest in trying the game and staying with it if they can get through a decent amount of the story which means they would get more revenue from Kobans.

BgSt
06-12-2017, 10:56 PM
That's all true. In the end I just don't get this game's revenue model. Does anybody spend real money to buy kobans to collect harem revenue or re-stock the store? I dunno, but I bet not more than once or twice. Same for progress energy. The only thing I could see spending real money for is epic pachinko spins for exclusive girls.

But perhaps that's just me, I don't know.

soviras
06-13-2017, 05:27 AM
That's all true. In the end I just don't get this game's revenue model. Does anybody spend real money to buy kobans to collect harem revenue or re-stock the store? I dunno, but I bet not more than once or twice. Same for progress energy. The only thing I could see spending real money for is epic pachinko spins for exclusive girls.

But perhaps that's just me, I don't know.

Yes, people do in fact use kobans for that... And some people do it often... That's also why they don't remove the autocollect button, it actually gives them some nice revenue.

AgentFakku
06-13-2017, 12:48 PM
dat's a stupid lie

why would anyone waste kobans on collecting money from harem? No one would. People complain about it after accidentally clicking on it. They never fixed it or add a warning pop up for new playas

soviras
06-13-2017, 05:10 PM
dat's a stupid lie

why would anyone waste kobans on collecting money from harem? No one would. People complain about it after accidentally clicking on it. They never fixed it or add a warning pop up for new playas

Because collecting from 50+ girls is tedious and they have Kobans to spare, especially with the contests making it easy to get them... There is a warning popup for me, and that got added quite a while back, but it only works if you haven't clicked the box to not ask again or if you re-enabled the warning. You may not find it worthwhile to use Kobans for it, but that doesn't mean that others don't do it.

BgSt
06-13-2017, 07:17 PM
Yes, people do in fact use kobans for that... And some people do it often...

there's a difference between spending kobans, and spending kobans that you paid actual real money for. :)


That's also why they don't remove the autocollect button, it actually gives them some nice revenue.

I'm all for the devs getting paid for their work. I guess just because their monetization strategy doesn't work on me doesn't mean it doesn't work at all. So yay for them getting paid!

AgentFakku
06-14-2017, 06:29 PM
Because collecting from 50+ girls is tedious and they have Kobans to spare, especially with the contests making it easy to get them... There is a warning popup for me, and that got added quite a while back, but it only works if you haven't clicked the box to not ask again or if you re-enabled the warning. You may not find it worthwhile to use Kobans for it, but that doesn't mean that others don't do it.

oh you're right I remember a pop up window and I couldn't figure out why it never pop up anymore

I don't know you can re-enable it

still, spending koban which can be used for Pachinko still sounds like a complete waste especially Koban isn't easily obtained

never thought the contests gave kobans. At most I got just gifts and equipment - is it rare or uncommon?

Sorry Soviras, this is my last comment in the Harem Heroes forum since I had a bad experience. Dropped the game, too.

There was a flash game that operates like Harem Heroes and they have a button to collect all cash. Of course, that flash game is a free game

so I always find Harem Heroes to be scummy to take advantage of folks that way just sounds lazy

you don't see that in DMM games

soviras
06-15-2017, 08:44 AM
oh you're right I remember a pop up window and I couldn't figure out why it never pop up anymore

I don't know you can re-enable it

still, spending koban which can be used for Pachinko still sounds like a complete waste especially Koban isn't easily obtained

never thought the contests gave kobans. At most I got just gifts and equipment - is it rare or uncommon?

Sorry Soviras, this is my last comment in the Harem Heroes forum since I had a bad experience. Dropped the game, too.

There was a flash game that operates like Harem Heroes and they have a button to collect all cash. Of course, that flash game is a free game

so I always find Harem Heroes to be scummy to take advantage of folks that way just sounds lazy

you don't see that in DMM games

The Kobans are given to the top 5 in every contest, and winning them is just a matter of spamming the pachinko or fights. I win the majority of the contests even when I'm not too active simply by spending a short time every hour to do the fights and playing a lot of pachinko when the related contest almost ends, I've gotten well over 1000 kobans from contests alone and they aren't that old... Beginning players will have a hard time to win some contests, but on the other hand there isn't a large amount of girls they need to collect from either.

To be honest, some things are way overpriced for what you get... The pachinko price for the girls is insane when you realize that it's just 3 (often similar) scene images and 4 poses, while they don't really contribute to anything in the game itself... All it gives is more normal money, of which I already have more than I can ever need and even for a beginner, the effect is minimal... Every non-pachinko exclusive girl can be obtained from a boss for free, and every pachinko exclusive girl gives a lot less money per hour making it even more pointless to aim for those...

And re-enabling the warning isn't easy, because there is no central options menu to do that sort of thing in...