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Iggzikof
10-02-2017, 10:00 AM
Adele, Uzume, Agnes, Ersha i have 2 copies
Cypria, Thetis, Garania, Liddy only single copies but not sure i should keep em


need 200 rainbows for that black knight

Tenhou
10-02-2017, 11:19 AM
First rule of the collectors: Do not sell non-dupes.

Now that that's out of the way, you will want to CR Uzume. The rest you can pretty much sell. Adele will be used as a health boost most of the time, not for her actual damage or even deployment. Anges and Ersha you might as well sell, they benefit little from CR.

ZeroZet
10-02-2017, 11:59 AM
Take first CR, it is guaranteed (or better yet, save it till we get gold+ exp up event), sell everything that is not Uzume or Jerome afterwards.

Tenhou
10-02-2017, 02:48 PM
Honestly would not CR units with rather little use, like Ersha and Agnes tbh. They're both at a point cost where CR does them little unless you mincost them and their impact on the game compared to other units is minimal.

lolix
10-02-2017, 02:51 PM
i kinda agree with tenhou. I don't see a point in cr-ing agnes or ersha either.


The only units that get really good by cr-ing are esential units that need to be placed asap and UP might be a problem. I don;t see the urgency in placing an enchanter or an necromancer on the map tho

hchan1
10-02-2017, 05:04 PM
Always keep single copies of every Gold+ unit. If nothing else, they give free SC + Bond Spirits when their Awakening missions are released sometime in 2030.

Iggzikof
10-02-2017, 08:50 PM
Well got my 4th Black yesterday but it was 2nd Esther so i destroyed her for 400RC.. at least i have Dark knight now,,

Nero010
10-03-2017, 05:52 AM
Well thats like me having 2 Grace. Going from 31 to 30 up is realy not a game changer. So my Grace dupe is sitting in barracks waiting until i need the 300 RC (since i dont realy am in a rush to get dark knight commander)

lolix
10-03-2017, 06:01 AM
honestly , i'd probably max both graces and use them as primary tanks. Her saw makes her have very good defense (i'm lazy to calculate exactly , but 2.3x of 600 should be around 1.5k ) and that;s without prince buffs , while her attack will also pass 1k easily , while still doing splash damage.

Imagine having 2 of those side by side on the map using their skills


I mean , it's a long ivnestment , but i can't see why people don't use doubles. I for one would probably raise another nanaly or aisha if i had the oportunity rather then cc the main one , or keep it in the baracks.


Imagine the dps 2 nanalys/aishas would have

Tenhou
10-03-2017, 09:29 AM
Well, for one there is say... me, who does not use dupes. It's rather simple though. It's because i have set a rule that there exists no same 2 characters in my "universe." Also, for future maps like Majin, you cannot use dupes anyways so might as well adhere to that already. I see no need for dupes since i have a good diversity of units to cover most things.

The one thing i would do is to raise several Aishas for the hilariousness of metor storming maps, but that is the one exception.

As for the Grace specific one, i would not raise a 2nd Grace. Sure she makes for a good tank and deals good damage, but she also falls behind many others and costs a lot to put out. I see no reason to raise a second one to have as a "tank/dps" since her cost is high and she only deals good damage on skill compared to other units that are ranged or high defense without the need of a skill to make it so.

lolix
10-03-2017, 11:01 AM
well , technically you can have 2 of the same black units take different routes when second aw comes out , so they will not be exact copies of each other.

Also , in a world where heaven , hell and even other worlds exists ( pretty sure the whole kingdom of pars units are from another world) , you could easily have parallel universes , which would explain copies existing.

Tenhou
10-03-2017, 02:05 PM
I prefer just keeping everything unique. And second AW won't come for eons and when it does you get a free copy of whatever unit you want to AW2 anyways. I simply do not WANT dupes in my army. That's really all there is to it. It's a personal taste/tidbit.

Nero010
10-04-2017, 10:31 AM
Im not realy a fan of copys either. Its not that i think having 2 grace wouldnt be great sometimes (even though deploying both is a hefty cost)... grace and farne actualy cheese me through some strategies i wouldve never been able to pull off like this without them, but i usualy cant decide which units i want to bring into a battle already with all slots given to me and one more gets "lost" once my uzume is raised. It wouldnt be fun for me to use the same units over n over, i rather use everyone once and work out a strat. Filling two slots with the same unit would feel... wrong.

Btw. during the events pirate map with ranged units only i noticed that i have no pirate thats higher then gold rarity (and none raised but Verrotte). Shrine realy isnt kind on me with pirates and im hoping for one since a pretty long time now already. I did not even own Monica prior to my recent ~300 SC pull (that gave me no black, i just wanted to highlight this again xD).

EDIT: btw. wondering for those (maybe u lolix) i did split 150 sc at 30th September and 150 sc at 1st October. Netting me stamp card for October and November. I realy realy wanted Nataku... fooly me xD

lolix
10-04-2017, 10:44 AM
.....wait. What are you wondering about ?


i mean , i hope u get her , but plat cards don't get boosted droprates by spotlight anyway if i remember corectly

NotThatGuy
10-05-2017, 12:07 PM
plat cards don't get boosted droprates by spotlight anyway if i remember corectly
They don't but I'm pretty sure what was being noted there was the cause for a 300 sc summon spree was rolling 150 at the end of September, then waiting for the new month, and rolling another 150, so the SC spent wouldn't fail to contribute to the stamp card. As someone who similarly felt a strong desire for Nataku, and then failed to get her after many a roll implementing a similar strategy, I can commiserate.

As for the topic of dupes, I personally don't use them either, though I may hold on to some dupe blacks so I can get a head start on raising them for second awakening. However actually raising those is a ways off, since I have so many other units to grind. Otherwise though, dupes are used for CR if I like the unit and/or plan to use it, or Rainbow Crystals so I can get good things when they come out. There's also the issue of having too many units already to have to also save room for dupes. I really hope they add the silver and spirit barracks soon. Maybe we can beg the devs to implement them early like they did commissions.

lolix
10-05-2017, 12:27 PM
i agree on the spirit baracks. Jesus do i need those ...

UnregisteredX
10-06-2017, 09:38 PM
Not really sure why people say they want 2 Nanaly... if one isn't enough to carry you, chances are, two won't either (you're likely needing magic, true damage, or very high single hit physical damage aka Minerva instead). If you really need a 2nd dps archer for another path or something, Bashira is sitting there praying for that once-in-a-blue-moon opportunity. If anything, CRing Nanaly to make her cheaper is a great idea since you tend to deploy her very early.

Personally, I cr-ed my Nanaly twice with copies and a third with Fluer for mincost. Zero regrets, and I've never once thought, wow, a 2nd Nanaly would be nice. Not even with AW2.

lolix
10-07-2017, 05:07 AM
I have high single target damage in aisha. Sure enough , he skill doesn't lasts long , but if you time it well , it;s enough.


That being said , you;re ignoring the fact that nanaly is a unit with multtiple hits that can benefit massively from dancers , strategists (i also have uzume) and boosters.

A single nanaly with all those boosts on her can easily reach 1.5k per arrow. Shooting 5 arrows per volley will shreed anything that isn't massively armored. Having 2 against a boss will pretty much kill anything.


Now it depends if you want to invest in that option or not because it;s very expensive and i realistically see the need for it just in some particular cases , otherwise your other archers will be enough , so in the end it depends on each player;s style. Personally , my bashira is sleeping in the baracks since the begining of my account



For the record , i'd use multiple aisha copies as well. Multiple meteor swarms ftw

Nero010
10-07-2017, 01:41 PM
Im also at my barrack limits. I actualy had to combine over 20 silvers and discharge even more to make space as i was completly filled.

lolix
10-07-2017, 03:47 PM
nutaku needs to give us spirit baracks

UnregisteredX
10-07-2017, 05:55 PM
That's the thing though, 1 Nanaly will pretty much kill everything that isn't massively armored, especially if you understand all the ways she can be buffed, with the exception of high end majins where you can't bring copies anyways. If 1 Nanaly isn't enough, you're better off bringing an enchanter/buffer or something else entirely (reflect) rather than a 2nd Nanaly.

Zenoswitch
10-17-2017, 12:22 AM
Not really sure why people say they want 2 Nanaly... if one isn't enough to carry you, chances are, two won't either (you're likely needing magic, true damage, or very high single hit physical damage aka Minerva instead). If you really need a 2nd dps archer for another path or something, Bashira is sitting there praying for that once-in-a-blue-moon opportunity. If anything, CRing Nanaly to make her cheaper is a great idea since you tend to deploy her very early.

Personally, I cr-ed my Nanaly twice with copies and a third with Fluer for mincost. Zero regrets, and I've never once thought, wow, a 2nd Nanaly would be nice. Not even with AW2.

I whole heartily agree with this due to the fact that DMM has another black archer than Nanaly. There's also Rion if you want another multi shot burst dps, infact she's still one of the best. Another reason is the phasing out the need of archers due to monster slayers and other range classes in DMM. With the exception of needing a ranged anti-rush unit or running Thursday dailies.

I'm... also in the need of spirit and silver barracks. I've been resorting to use platinum/black fairies to level up my cc/aw fodder at this moment... With the fact that we can get Happy from Anna's event, I'll probably stockpile even more black fairies that I don't currently have a use for until I pull 2 black units.