[Event 24] Halloween Event - Jack o' Lantern Raid!

[Kitty]

Yup, you guessed it! Another early post, this event will come in over 2 weeks time, but hey, apparently I explain things well so I should post again to help prepare you guys. <br />
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So, here's basically...

[bigblackcock]

not sure, but i think i'll use my wind team against ragnarok level as i can use both arc and gaia to cut damage.
+we can get 1 potion just from using a sticker so it can help, and if not hope someone will use cassi/andro to heal XD
as for expert...yea, my light team is so weak i'll rather use dark team instead lol

[sanahtlig]

This should be the event where Gaia's Awakening is introduced. This event highlights her newfound utility, as at ALV75 she gets an ability upgrade that allows her to cover and negate ALL damage from the next 3 hits.

[OtherGuy02]

This should be the event where Gaia's Awakening is introduced. This event highlights her newfound utility, as at ALV75 she gets an ability upgrade that allows her to cover and negate ALL damage from the next 3 hits.

Definitely hope so. If nothing else this version continues to show how we're not getting stuff released when they are supposed to. (I'm looking at you Hercules and the Pride Union event weapon and eidolon rewards!)

[Unregistered]

Why bring up Pride? Pride didn't get a weapon or eidolon on DMM until its 1st reprint this May. Did you misread the page on the wiki or something?

[OtherGuy02]

Why bring up Pride? Pride didn't get a weapon or eidolon on DMM until its 1st reprint this May. Did you misread the page on the wiki or something?

No.
The fact they weren't there in the first run of DMM was an oversight due to testing if the event would work and was fixed by adding them in to the reprint. This version not including them is a mistake that could have been fixed with a little effort on their part as they don't need to test it since they know it works thanks to the DMM version. The last thing anybody should be doing is seeing a mistake being made and then intentionally making the same mistake again for just because they are blanket copying the original version, its just lazy.

Crowley and Cagliostro being the only real rewards from that event was a joke especially as without lucky gacha/raid drops, trying to build even a half decent light team is becoming a pain in the butt. 2 light SR weapons and a light SSR weapon would have gone a long way to help get a good light team going.

[Kitty]

well, I think I'm more than prepared for this event, finally... it'll be coming very soon!

got my light grid to 67% assault and just have 3K gems left XD
hopefully I can get more tomorrow with gem SP quest, i'll focus on that more than Ixion, as I have over 100 elixers I could use if I needed them for her..
fire grid is at 76% for Ragnarok... but really could just that or wind.. not like i'll be soloing her anyway, so really nothing to worry about.. :o

[VeryVoodoo]

The best thing about this raid event is no longer having to rely on silly Gacha RNG luck to MLB the SSR wpn/eid quickly. :rolleyes:
Just completing the 200 orbs/100 orbs on each is enough to full MLB both SSRs.
Which should make saving BP for the following Union Event a lot easier. :o

[bigblackcock]

as expected, the event will start in 48H
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/372218552360370176/919e952ae7d7f4055f21ac91eefcc530a35d472e504bb3f9.j pg

[phuonglop12a2]

Does Anyone know what soul is best to against this Raid event?

I'm having 500 soul but i don't know what should i unlock next.

Joan or Mordred or Solomon?

I still cannot unlock Siegfried and D'Artagnan.

[Unregistered]

Does Anyone know what soul is best to against this Raid event?

I'm having 500 soul but i don't know what should i unlock next.

Joan or Mordred or Solomon?

I still cannot unlock Siegfried and D'Artagnan.

Cassiopeia with Maidens Prayer. If you have Sol then Mordred then Joan. Getting Dart is important too. Solomon is one of the worst souls, dont bother with her until you unlock the more important souls.

[Unregistered]

Do you have access to debuffs, aside from souls skills ?

Because the soul you should get depends on your team : A player with Amaterasu shouldn't bother unlocking D'art, but she's key for a Light/Thunder player.

In the end, you should unlock either mordred (overdrive control + afflictions) or Joan (damage mitigation).
And yeah, Solomon is shit.

[bigblackcock]

I think that i'll use my dark team with cassi with black propaganda as i don't have def buff nor healer+it cover for chaos magic and black propaganda.
as for ragnarok, hopefully i'll find some during burst time, if it happens i'll go with fire team.
Dart- frame B debuf+ ambush as ex ability to lower defense.
brynhildr+ svarog- attack buff
agni+ 'fine gun- fire attack boost
ares- self attack boost
so hopefully it'll help me to deal some nice damage during this time.

[AutoCrimson]

so, all in all, 100 ragnaroks and 200 expert runs. less if you are mvp, it drops two souls sometimes.
honestly, i'd prefer the so-called "random" before

[Slashley]

Blues drop from Standard, and I was under the impression that Reds drop from Expert. Haven't gotten a single Red from Expert yet though, after like five... if they're Ragnarok only, then that's horrifying.

Also, ticket gain seems to have been totally gutted. Like, half of what it was before. And I don't think I got a single Jewel draw in 50 tickets. Could just be bad luck. The event no longer drowns you all kinds of cool shit which made Raids fun before.

First impressions of this bad. Really bad. I hope I'm wrong, since it's just the first hour.

[bigblackcock]

So as long as we have 35 ap and 3 cookies we can start ragnaroks?
Gonna save those cookies for burst time

[Kitty]

So as long as we have 35 ap and 3 cookies we can start ragnaroks?
Gonna save those cookies for burst time

give me cookies!

[WhatIconceal]

...honestly, i'd prefer the so-called "random" before


...First impressions of this bad. Really bad. I hope I'm wrong, since it's just the first hour.

^This. Feels like more pain less gain.
Just for lulz:
mvp ragna

https://i.imgur.com/U55CQjO.jpg
submvp ragna

https://i.imgur.com/pq6UVgP.jpg

[Unregistered]

I really can't see myself finishing anything this event. Much prefer the way it was before..

[AutoCrimson]

7222

thats ragna mvp... my second char was submvp, got 1.

still, its hundred of seeds


upd - got demon soul from expert, so it does drop

[Kitty]

I guess replacing all my light defender weapons for assault wasn't the best idea, even though I got it to 70%... XD
lost my battle but... was forced to use ama as def debuff and regen cause I have no healer.. unless I used aphrodite..and again, forced to use another element...
don't have any weapon cassiopeia can hold... she'd be perfect for battle, def, heal and CM !!!
..or mordred, I guess... but just 25% def debuff with her and diana together..

[Aidoru]

Ragnarok raid BP cost should have been changed to 3 or something, feels too much and making Ragnarok 10 max people, oh man I feel bad for low rank players sending help to other low rank players.

[Slashley]

So, before, we needed 150+150, for 2 BP each. So 600 BP. PLUS luck to get 1 weapon and 1 Eidolon from Gacha.

Now, we need 150 for 1 BP and 100 for 4 BP, so 550 BP.

... it's actually less, but jesus christ it feels terrible. It's less convenient to accomplish this way. You used to be able to chip away at it at your own pace, but the 4BP cost for Ragnaroks is so damn... oppressive?

[Unregistered]

is the raid gacha droprate for sr way worse then in other raid events or is it just bad luck for me? Rolled 150 gacha not even one SR enhanced material or other stuff

[Maria]

Saddest thing of all, "normal" players don't use Chaos Magic.

[Unregistered]

So, before, we needed 150+150, for 2 BP each. So 600 BP. PLUS luck to get 1 weapon and 1 Eidolon from Gacha.

Now, we need 150 for 1 BP and 100 for 4 BP, so 550 BP.

... it's actually less, but jesus christ it feels terrible. It's less convenient to accomplish this way. You used to be able to chip away at it at your own pace, but the 4BP cost for Ragnaroks is so damn... oppressive?

Except you don't get a soul for sure with 1 BP. I've had quite a few with none.

[Shieun]

is it just me, or that the raid is way harder than it supposed to be?


havent been able to auto clear it consistently without supervision...

[AutoCrimson]

So, before, we needed 150+150, for 2 BP each. So 600 BP.

actually, i finished last 2 raids with like 100 / 60 souls or so, with 2 Eido from Gacha.
granted, SSR weapon hated me, so no drops, but still was able to conserve BP

well, will see how it will be in few days

[Aidoru]

I'm worried about the effort I have to now put into Ragnarok in case the other 9 people who join can't handle it or just auto battle it. The risk is much higher now and I really don't to manual raid events.

[Slashley]

Oh, now I'm getting Jewels like normal. I guess my first 50 Tickets were just unlucky.

That said, Ticket gain is half - or less! - than before. So Gem and Jewel gains from Raid events have been gutted. Plus, even though the droprates seem to be roughly the same (with zero data and just my impression of it), gaining +1 weapons and Eidolons is now far, far more difficult. Get fucked, non-whales. Get fucked.

[Aidoru]

Saddest thing of all, "normal" players don't use Chaos Magic.

It's best to not even bother using Chaos Magic as your ex skill. Ragnarok will most likely have people just join and auto battle. Even if they had Chaos Magic, with the amount of people constantly triggering the boss's overdrive attacks, it would be pointless unless everyone had 2 or more dispels.

[AutoCrimson]

Now, we need 150 for 1 BP and 100 for 4 BP, so 550 BP.

am i bad at math, or this is wrong?

firstly, we need 200 and 100, and soul doesnt drop 100% from 1 bp raid, means its mostly 2 bp per soul

means, 200*2 + 100*4 = 800 bp

[Shieun]

Saddest thing of all, "normal" players don't use Chaos Magic.

I quickly realised that unless I have Sol and Chaos Magic, its not going to be of any help since people will continuously trigger the overdrive.

[Slashley]

am i bad at math, or this is wrong?

firstly, we need 200 and 100, and soul doesnt drop 100% from 1 bp raid, means its mostly 2 bp per soul

means, 200*2 + 100*4 = 800 bpWell, I had the blue max rewards wrong, true. Also, I don't know the droprate of Blues yet. Surely it's not as bad as 50%, though...?

But since Ragnarok can drop 2 at times, that saves you 4 BP each time it happens.

I guess we're finding out properly just how much these are.

[Kitty]

so far used about 120 seeds, but forgot to put my new amon unleashed in sub team so she got no levels XD

[AutoCrimson]

most annoying thing so far - constantly switching between light team for expert and water team for ragnarok

already missclicked couple of times, going expert with water

[Kitty]

so far used around 400 tickets and no ssr drops :O

[lDelay]

Used 100 tickets, got 3 copies of Jack.

All my luck went to this gacha somehow, not bad tbh.

[Slashley]

Shit, I just realized that there's no more SR Grails from Raids.

They're Union rewards only now.

[AutoCrimson]

used like 500 tickets on two accs, not a single SSR drop... still hope at least for SSR weapon, so i can skip that 100 ragna requirements

[sanahtlig]

So have we figured out whether Expert or Ragnarok gives the best drop to AP and BP ratio?

[Kitty]

So have we figured out whether Expert or Ragnarok gives the best drop to AP and BP ratio?

expert is harder it seems, but drops divine soul as well as devil, while ragnarok just drops devil... and since we need 200 of the divine it's probably best to focus a lot more on expert than ragnarok, as hard as that is to do... for me at least XD

..and apparently expert gives more tickets? or so i heard..

[Kitty]

and so far i've used over 500 tickets and found just 1 copy of SSR weapon... but i won't complain, could've not found that weapon, and to me the weapon is far more important... :o

[bigblackcock]

so i decided to do experts with my dark team and ragnarok during burst time only with my fire team.
so far i used about...300 tickets? and found 1 copy of jack o latern and made her+97, just +2 more to go.
then to be confused about who should be the next eido i'll get to +99 :O

[AutoCrimson]

expert is easy as long you have kami that dispels, even more easy if its Aphro/Sol

[Slashley]

expert is easy as long you have kami that dispels, even more easy if its Aphro/SolBUY HALLOWEEN ARTEMIS NOW

[Unregistered]

I have gotten boh souls from Ragnarok. Although it seems the when it's just one drop, its always the red one. With this I would assume the extra one you have a chance to get is either but more often another red.

[AutoCrimson]

well, after getting 25/31 on main and 22/29 on second i can give some thoughts about new raid

light souls (blue one) can drop from normal raid, but the probability is like 50%, mb 60%
expert almost always drop blue soul, i had only 3 times when it dropped devil one
ragnarok can drop 2 souls, one devil, second can be any, but i got 2 souls only on ragna that i started myself (needless to say, i was mvp there)

[Kitty]

found jack in gacha ^_^

[bigblackcock]

well, i'll be off to sleep soon, so my result for the first day:
60 divine souls, 29 devil souls, found 1 copy of the SSR weapon and 1 copy of jack in gacha.
in general got jack to 2 stars and so i'll replace my dullahan for her soon and maybe soon i'll finally have full dark grid.

[AgentFakku]

LOL dem avatars - Kamihime pride man

Michael is pretty scary IMO

[Kitty]

well, nothings scarier than michael's cooking...

[Kitty]

https://i.imgur.com/Nx96vP9.jpg

well, here's my progress for today too... though i'll be doing a fuck ton of standards and experts for the next litttle while, maybe a few hours or so just to get more divine souls for myself and to help a friend too.
did mostly ragnarok today, and mvp/vice mvp in most of them..
sad no life piece of shit right here

[someuser825]

Just got 2 divine souls from one expert raid. So it is possible, but i've only seen it happen once so far.

[Kitty]

Just got 2 divine souls from one expert raid. So it is possible, but i've only seen it happen once so far.

just now got x2 divine soul from 2 experts in a row :o

edit: and again 3 raids later XD

[AznSamsung]

I notice if i deal the final blow 90% of the time it gave me an extra soul

[Unregistered]

Doing some data so far for blue souls.

Standard (7/13) [0.53%]
Expert (3/3) [100%]

Sample size too small, but still collecting

[Pareidolia]

I don't think I'll bother with the Devil Souls even though I'm at 35/25 at the moment since I got Lantern from the Gacha once, that arcane weapon doesn't seem really good and an Union event is next

[Aidoru]

I don't think I'll bother with the Devil Souls even though I'm at 35/25 at the moment since I got Lantern from the Gacha once, that arcane weapon doesn't seem really good and an Union event is next

As far as I've seen, arcana weapons have always had the worst attack. Though being a SSR makes it still better than SR weapons at the very least.

Anyways, about done with PP rewards. Used about 600ish tickets or so, only got 1 SSR weapon. Ragnarok is such a pain.

[AznSamsung]

Question when you choose your friend eld for ragn ... is it default to fire or your strongest element

[Aidoru]

Question when you choose your friend eld for ragn ... is it default to fire or your strongest element

Defaults to fire since it's the first on the element tab and Ragnarok Jack is illusion element, weak and strong to all.

[Pareidolia]

As far as I've seen, arcana weapons have always had the worst attack. Though being a SSR makes it still better than SR weapons at the very least.


Indeed but with it at LB2 it should be decent enough for Cagliostro at least for the burst to be decent
About Ragnarok, I soloed in auto one with my Arthur team in the morning (We're yet to get an SSR Fire sword for Mordred and my recently gotten Cthulhu and Ryu-Oh are just at level 68) and I normally auto for MVP or at least second but it's really annoying without Vissitudes of Fortune

[bigblackcock]

i doubt that i'll use them now and just wait to get their levels a little higher, but soon my dark team will get a nice boost :D
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/373343299936976897/chaos_latern.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/373343268517445632/jackolatern.png
i also MLB the SR assault weapon to level 8 skill level, but now i'm broke and have only...3 gems XD
need to save more to get it to level 20 skill levels as well+ MLB jack and chaos latern.

[phuonglop12a2]

this event is so hard with me.. :(

[Kitty]

end of day 2... didn't really do much today. some experts/ragnarok i guess...hardly joined any battles like i did yesterday,
made more of my own..
well, tomorrow is another day, and i can help my friends with all the experts and ragnarok i am planning to make :o
got jack to mlb so soon cause i found her in gacha and also she dropped from ragnarok battle...
now time to finally rest before i die from sleep deprivation
https://i.imgur.com/wleHWch.png

[AgentFakku]

damn brotha...
7242
LOL my luck is never good

[Celaien]

i spen 200 ticket and i got nothing...

start the burning time i got 18 ticket i try 10 gacha and i got this...

7243

this game is really playing whit me...

[Aidoru]

I really don't want to run Ragnarok anymore and I probably don't need to but all those cookies feel like they'll go to waste if I don't. Wished they had some kind of exchange system for them.

[Slashley]

Yeah, there's just "too many" Ragnaroks. I've stopped joining all Rags except guildies and friends that I like. Even then I'm going to overshoot Rag requirement by miles long before I'm done with Blues. Mostly because of all the Rags I'm going to host myself.

The problem is, most people are starting to do the same. People just aren't joining them. I see more and more Rags at like 30 minutes, full health, only host inside. So if you can't solo Ragnarok, you're starting to be shit out of luck. I am more or less trading Rags with guildies now, as thankfully I'm strong enough to duo it with people of okay power levels.

[Shieun]

people need to realise that running ragnarok is not the best way to get the souls. The difficulty and the party limit means that unless you have 2-3 high level inside (70+) you're not going to clear it.

[Slashley]

people need to realise that running ragnarok is not the best way to get the souls.--Even though Ragnaroks are the only way to get Reds? Yeah, we totally can avoid them.

At the moment, Expert has some droprate on Reds, but if I've understood right, then the next raid event is removing that. So enjoy your forced 100 Ragnaroks.
At least they're removing PP from Tickets, so that's good.

[Aidoru]

Ragnarok isn't the only way to get devil souls. I've gotten over 20 today from running expert only, drop rate seems to be like 1 for every 3 or 4 diivines though.

I definitely wasted too much seeds running Ragnarok on day 1. From what I can see, you can probably reach 100 devil souls just running expert for your 200 divine. Even if not, once you hit 200 divines from farming expert, you should have a good amount of devil souls already since expert drops both, which you could just keep running expert or go for some Ragnaroks for higher chance for those last devil souls instead of burning seeds on it early on and end up far exceeding your quota, wasting potential seeds.

They need to boost drops for Ragnaroks or something like more tickets because it isn't even worth farming at this point.

[Shieun]

Even though Ragnaroks are the only way to get Reds? Yeah, we totally can avoid them.

At the moment, Expert has some droprate on Reds, but if I've understood right, then the next raid event is removing that. So enjoy your forced 100 Ragnaroks.
At least they're removing PP from Tickets, so that's good.
We'll worry about it until the next raid where they might be removing the reds from experts. Until then, EX have a decent drop rate on red souls, so might as well start farming that, and only do ragnarok when you need to.

At the current drop rate, ragnarok is not the best place for lower level to farm devil souls considering the difficulty and party size. High leveled players who can solo Ragnarok should just keep doing whatever they like, and not worry about the opinion of a lowbie pleb like me.

[Slashley]

I can't even solo Expert. Or Rag, even though Rag seems a lot easier.

Expert is such murder because of the goddamn buffs. Without Sol, you're just fucked if you can't Jack to Rage without a single Overdrive. And since I can't do that, I always have to just sit and wait for somebody to join before I start debuffing and attacking. And even then, half the time the idiots just go auto-battle (without even skill nukes first) and trigger the buffs anyway. So then it's a freaking 3 minute wait, plus all debuffs lost.

[bigblackcock]

i'm joining ragnarok only during burst time so i can deal more damage alnig with my union members, outside burst time i'll join expert only.
doing ragnarok outside burst time will be harder and take longer time to clear so i prefer not to join any outside burst time.
though something seems off..i'm using my fire team during burst time to deal a little more damage during burst time in ragnarok battle.
i got my fire gun to level 20 skill level from level 10 and even got the lance from level 10 to level 12.
i haven't changed my formation, using about the same eidolons as support and the weapon grid is the same, nothing got removed.
and yet, from 1.4M+ my damage got reduced to 1.2-1.3M O_O

[Slashley]

Debuffs? Unless you were solo, there were probably different debuffs up?

Also, 6% character attack from your weapon grid isn't a huge boost.

[bigblackcock]

Debuffs? Unless you were solo, there were probably different debuffs up?

Also, 6% character attack from your weapon grid isn't a huge boost.

don't get me wrong, i didn't expect a huge boost after maxing 1 weapon, but i didn't expect to loost over 200K damage either O_O
thought it may be the same or a little but higher, but then it looks like leveling up the skill level wasn't worth it at all O_O
i'm not soloing her, but i use d'art with ambush so it should be the same debuff as before.
my friend thought it's because she cahnged gawain for mordred so i get less attack buff from gawain (brynhildr is same frame so it's not like i lose that much bost anyway)
but then someone with arthur joined the raid and i got arthur's boost which is even higer than gawain and still lower than 1.4M i had before.

[Slashley]

Uuuuh? So you went from -40% Def (Sniper + Gawain's Ambush) to -20% Def (Sniper Shot) and you're wondering why you lost so much damage?

Debuffs are way, way, way more important than anything else. Well, okay, fine, that's not true, but assuming that your weapon grid is okay-ish (80%+), then at that point.

[bigblackcock]

Uuuuh? So you went from -40% Def (Sniper + Gawain's Ambush) to -20% Def (Sniper Shot) and you're wondering why you lost so much damage?

Debuffs are way, way, way more important than anything else. Well, okay, fine, that's not true, but assuming that your weapon grid is okay-ish (80%+), then at that point.

read again, i haven't changed my soul, my friend did change it.
i'm still using d'art with ambush

[Slashley]

Oh, okay, fair enough. I misread. The only explanation I can think of is that there was a Cthulhu that you didn't notice, but I guess you don't make your Ragna's public? A mystery then.
And by your friend, I assume you mean Kitty? I remember saving you two from a Ragnarok once.

EDIT: Oh, and I assume you're using at least one Elemental Eidolon and not double HP Eidolons...?

[bigblackcock]

Oh, okay, fair enough. I misread. The only explanation I can think of is that there was a Cthulhu that you didn't notice, but I guess you don't make your Ragna's public? A mystery then.
And by your friend, I assume you mean Kitty? I remember saving you two from a Ragnarok once.

EDIT: Oh, and I assume you're using at least one Elemental Eidolon and not double HP Eidolons...?
yes, by my friend i mean kitty :O
we were fool enough, each one of us thought that the other had black propaganda while...none of us did *FacePalm*
usually we make ragnarok only during burst time for union, unless we're wiped out :O
and i know for sure kitty doesn't have cthulhu neither have i, i don't think she is using another kami with a different for def debuff so can't explain it :X
i'm using my ifrit, even though she is just level 40, it's the same eidolon i used when i dealt 1.4M before.
i tried to go with different eidolons as support like fafnir, apocalypse, echidna and ifrit as well, the highest i got was 1.3M while could get 1.4M with 2 level 40 ifrit before so...yea, i'm clueless about it.

[Maria]

After 328 gacha rolls, I got 6 Jack O' Lantern's! :D The other 2 came from the Divine Soul rewards.
7245

[bigblackcock]

After 328 gacha rolls, I got 6 Jack O' Lantern's! :D The other 2 came from the Divine Soul rewards.
7245

oh that nice luck :D
i'm close to MLB my jac, just 2 more divine souls to go :O
keep the 2nd copy though, in the future you'll be able to sell it for phantom beast orbs and and those will let you buy some nice things :O

[AutoCrimson]

600 tickets so far, no Jack of weapon... guess will need to finish the event completely

[Kitty]

suddenly i lost all my motivation to play............................ i think i'll just sit in a dark corner and weep into my knees

[WhatIconceal]

suddenly i lost all my motivation to play............................ i think i'll just sit in a dark corner and weep into my knees

>5 months in game and still don't have a single ssr hime, but hope for the best to come
>made some grid upgrades for this event and prepared for grindfest
>wow i can solo expert!!1!11
>others auto-mvping regnas/dealing 200K+ dmg with a single skill/400k dmg with single attack
>....staring up into the night sky while manly tears slowly running down my cheeks....

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/052/082/1240393095655.jpg

[bigblackcock]

if just i had hades or sol i could have clear it more smoothly, but can't be helped.
used my lacking dark team 'cause even so it's much stronger than my light team (my weakest team)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ncEFzkf64

[Kitty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEaivw17_E4

[Pareidolia]

Well I just did 100/50 and I'm done with the event
Weapon and Eidolon MLB
160 Gacha Tickets were kind

[AgentFakku]

I dn't see my union dat often in Raid

I just wing it man - go for anything even ones w/ less than half HP

[Kitty]

well, I guess i'm done in the event...
thanks to mr noobs help
https://i.imgur.com/O3A321g.png

only need 100 of each, cause got lucky in gacha and found both weapon and jack (also jack from drops) so have her at MLB and an extra copy, i'll probably just get to 120 divine so I can get another copy of the SR assault and try to MLB it again from that, chance for drops and gacha... can replace some of my shitty non LB dark weapons.
all that's left for me to do really is... help my friend! and seems as it's almost burst time... well it's time to spam ragnarok :D

[AznSamsung]

Whos man are they ... they are done with the event and i am still trying to get ssr weapon and gacha (500 tickets and nothing) ... wtf is this luck

[fucka]

Whos man are they ... they are done with the event and i am still trying to get ssr weapon and gacha (500 tickets and nothing) ... wtf is this luck

Same here, It seems I need to finish the whole event...

[AutoCrimson]

well, 700 tickets so far, 100/90 souls, 2 mlb'ed SR dark assault, and no SSR drops.. guess going'going'going

[Blueguy]

At 100/45 and got my first Jack o Lantern in the gacha. Wish it was the weapon so I could end this early.

[Kitty]

this is as far as i could get solo with ragnarok... pretty good considering i suck lol, still less than half hp so i'm happy XD
https://i.imgur.com/791227l.jpg

[Eunicorn]

Same here, It seems I need to finish the whole event...


well, 700 tickets so far, 100/90 souls, 2 mlb'ed SR dark assault, and no SSR drops.. guess going'going'going

Well, looks like we're in a huge club of losers in raid gacha tickets.

[Unregistered]

I think part of the problem is we haven't had a good Light Eidolon to fit this event. Even you guys posting videos of taking Jack down solo aren't using Light teams to do so.

I feel salty at you guys since I only have 1 SSR Kamihime (Ares) and my Fire team features nothing special other than her, which makes the team useless for this event.
Phantom element is cool, the event has been better than I expected it to be, though limiting to 10 players for Ragnarok is harsh, especially since it will rely on super powerful teams to take Jack down (or lots of Gold/Jewel spending).

Capitalism at its worst in browser game form?

[Slashley]

Next event will have Rags at 20 people max, so hopefully it won't be as fucked up.

[Aidoru]

Managed to get a copy of both SSRs from my last hundred tickets. Thank goodness, probably used over 400 seeds already cause I wasted so much on Ragnarok on day 1. Can just finish up divines with natural regen AP/BP and go back to hoarding.

Surprisingly, didn't get much SR weapons or +1 weapons/eidolons. A bit disappointed there.

[AznSamsung]

Want to trade with ur luck ... i got alot of those of +1 instead of any ssr copy

[Aidoru]

That'd be cool if you could (and super abusable) but sadly I can't. I'd honestly just be glad you can complete the unit without having to rely on luck anymore, just extremely grindy. Unless your out of seeds...

[shko]

ragnarok

7254

[sanahtlig]

Raid events are still too grindy. I can't be bothered to run 200-300 raid battles in 7 days, even on auto. Maybe if starting a battle took just a single click, but not with the current laggy interface.

[Slashley]

All 45% Eidolons are from Raids, though.

I personally like it since it gives me a lot to do.
But well, obviously not for everyone.

And I still hate how the current system pushes 100 Ragnaroks down your throat. And I'm just 78 Reds, and I have 5m+ PP. At least give me Ticket rewards until 10m PP if I'm going to HAVE TO get it all done.

[AznSamsung]

just need 9 more red soul then i mlb jack .... fml nothing drop in gacha

[AutoCrimson]

7255

GoDs Of Fortune finally smiled at me, at 800+ ticket i got SSR weapon, thus finished this event with 173/106

[mustafa]

so far 500 gacha and still not a single SSR, meanwhile ive got 20 SRs

[Blueguy]

I gave up yesterday at 141/65. Burning through too many seeds and I MLB'd the eidolon since I got two from the Gacha. Want to save seeds for the next event.

[lDelay]

This is kinda Akward question but, had to do.
I have 3 extra copies from Jack. What should i do with them?
I don't mind to have it on my inventory since i have like 50 extra slots.

[Aidoru]

This is kinda Akward question but, had to do.
I have 3 extra copies from Jack. What should i do with them?
I don't mind to have it on my inventory since i have like 50 extra slots.

Save any extra SSR eidolons for a future system where you can trade them in for a new currency and get stuff like missed raid event eidolons, accessories, SSR Kaiser Dragon eidolons, etc.

[Slashley]

This is kinda Akward question but, had to do.
I have 3 extra copies from Jack. What should i do with them?
I don't mind to have it on my inventory since i have like 50 extra slots.Limit break one, lock it, let it rot in your inventory for the next ~11 months. You'll be able to sell it for 3/4ths of a Raid Eidolon eventually.

[omelletetherice]

sigh~ man is it just me or did this format of raid feel more grindy than the earlier ones?

a few gripes would be:
got all ma devil souls 1st (mostly because exp kept droppin them) so it feels like its takin longer to get the divine souls.
forced to do rag to an extent rather than a bonus type thingy
a crap ton of rag materials leftover (bout a 100 or so) cause spammin the HELL outta expert.
reached 3mil raid points in 2 days... like someone said above need more prizes for raid points (got around 6mil...)

so yea... not really like the changes to raid much. taking bets that ppl still didn't get mlb wep n eido from the pure grindiness of it.

[Blueguy]

No, it felt worse for me too. I think it's really all problems with Ragnarok. Seems like 2/3s of the people were running Ragnarok instead of teaming up. Plus, the rewards didn't seem to scale very well. Seems like there should have been a greater chance of more souls and more tickets. I know people pointed out the 10 player limit, but I rarely ever saw any getting to that point. I did see one with 11 somehow.

[Unregistered]

No, it felt worse for me too. I think it's really all problems with Ragnarok. Seems like 2/3s of the people were running Ragnarok instead of teaming up. Plus, the rewards didn't seem to scale very well. Seems like there should have been a greater chance of more souls and more tickets. I know people pointed out the 10 player limit, but I rarely ever saw any getting to that point. I did see one with 11 somehow.

people would be complaining about the ridiculous PP reward under the old way if it didn't change here, lets just be honest.

Rag was annoying as heck this event, a good portion of that is due to phantom element though..

A legitimate gripe I have with this event is pulling bonus PP from gacha after maxing the PP rewards... You win (drumroll...) NOTHING!

[Aidoru]

A legitimate gripe I have with this event is pulling bonus PP from gacha after maxing the PP rewards... You win (drumroll...) NOTHING!

That's no different than every past raid event.

The biggest issue is definitely the drop rates for Ragnarok. Ragnarok did not drop enough to warrant even bothering to run it, this includes both initiating it and joining in others. When people found this out, less people started joining it so but there were still those who didn't know so you'd have several initiating it and basically forced to let the timer run out since a lot are unable to solo rag.

[omelletetherice]

people would be complaining about the ridiculous PP reward under the old way if it didn't change here, lets just be honest.

Rag was annoying as heck this event, a good portion of that is due to phantom element though..

A legitimate gripe I have with this event is pulling bonus PP from gacha after maxing the PP rewards... You win (drumroll...) NOTHING!

actually the main gripe with the old way was the fact that u couldn't mlb the ssr wep or eido without gatcha pulls. (needed at least 1 of each from raid gatcha) which could've been easily solved by adding an extra 1 into rewards. (which is what they basically did)

also the phantom element wasn't all that bad since it allowed u to play with ur best team no matter what element it was. i found the problem more to be that rag was kinda forced onto u rather it being a way to get extra rewards n such. (plus u can basically run like 3+ experts in the time it took run 1 rag with almost the same amount of rewards in each expert)

yea i feel u there on that last 1. i wasn't even spammin raids that much outside of 1 of the burst times and i reached 3mil in like 2days. (without using tickets...)

[mustafa]

it took me 695 tickets to get first SSR (eidolon)
atm its 150/90 so till the end ill use another 150-200 tickets

[Slashley]

a few gripes would be:
got all ma devil souls 1st (mostly because exp kept droppin them) so it feels like its takin longer to get the divine souls.
forced to do rag to an extent rather than a bonus type thingy
a crap ton of rag materials leftover (bout a 100 or so) cause spammin the HELL outta expert.
reached 3mil raid points in 2 days... like someone said above need more prizes for raid points (got around 6mil...)

so yea... not really like the changes to raid much. taking bets that ppl still didn't get mlb wep n eido from the pure grindiness of it.
A legitimate gripe I have with this event is pulling bonus PP from gacha after maxing the PP rewards... You win (drumroll...) NOTHING!Thankfully, this was the prototype of this new Raid system, the changelog for the next one (x-mas) from JP wiki:
十字架のドロップが自発のみに変更� �
魂ドロップについて。難易度Expertか� �神破魂。Ragnarokから討魔魂のみに変� �。（要検証）
難易度Ragnarokの救援参加人数が10名→2 0名へ増加。
イベントガチャからの功績ポイント� �出削除。

I'm... a bit lost with some of these. Like the first one. 十字架 is the item you need to open Expert and Rag, though a different one for each. This doesn't specify at all which one it's referring to, so probably both. So what does "is now spontanious" mean? I assume that the mats for both Expert and Rag are now much, much more rare. So the whole "omg there's 100 empty Rags up flooding my Raid screen" should be gone.

The second one means that Expert is now only Blues, and Rag is only Reds, I believe. This is... kind of good, kind of bad. It was really good to get Reds from Expert at times, since Expert is so much cheaper than Rag. That's gone now. On the other hand, you now know what you'll get.

Rags are now 20 people max (save the little people!).

PP has been removed from Tickets (thank god!).


Overall, the next Raid event should be much more comfy. But it looks like the Ticket gain is still in the pits. Which is unfortunate. And you're really shoehorned into the 400 BP for Experts, 400 BP for Rags situation.

[Kureru]

自発("spontaneous") means self-funded. I.E. you can only get crosses by using AP. Looking at the comments this only applies to Expert and Ragnarok.

I also read that Rag drops a lot of souls. Like 2-4. Apparently expert is still awful.

[sanahtlig]

The next event will force you to join both Ragnaroks and Experts to gather the necessary souls, and you'll no longer be able to farm the spawn materials from joining raids. In exchange, the ticket rewards will be slightly better since PP will be removed. So overall, not much is going to change. MLB'ing the eidolon will still be extremely difficult, and the weapon even moreso. Overall, Raid events will continue to be a pain to MLB anything, so not worth completing unless it's an element that could become your primary.

[omelletetherice]

The next event will force you to join both Ragnaroks and Experts to gather the necessary souls, and you'll no longer be able to farm the spawn materials from joining raids. In exchange, the ticket rewards will be slightly better since PP will be removed. So overall, not much is going to change. MLB'ing the eidolon will still be extremely difficult, and the weapon even moreso. Overall, Raid events will continue to be a pain to MLB anything, so not worth completing unless it's an element that could become your primary.

so that means raids get worst... sonavabiscuit! well, i guess that's what the raid store would be for then lol.

[AznSamsung]

Should not be complaining for those who have bs luck ... i and others who have bad luck should be the one complaining ... almost 1000 ticket and i got nothing beside gem pp seed and material ... fml

[Slashley]

Only getting mats from your own raids sounds good to me. It'll cut down the amount of Ragnaroks a lot, which effectively means that Ragnaroks won't be desolate anymore. And if they drop 2-4 Reds, you don't even need 100 of them, just 25-50. Bringing the amount of effort down to roughly pre-guaranteed version.
-- Overall, Raid events will continue to be a pain to MLB anything, so not worth completing unless it's an element that could become your primary.That's a bit mean to your friends list. All 45% Elemental Eidolons are raids, after all. I suppose you can also keep HP, as HP+elemental is a nice combination, but.

[sanahtlig]

I'll be running the dual-element eidolons and Jorm. That's good enough. You shouldn't be complaining because the next Raid event is going to deprive you of Phoenixes.

[Slashley]

I know right! :o
I've been hard at work for a while now, most of my FL is now Thunderbirds and Ouroboros. Mostly 0-stars, but several 1-2 Star players have also accepted, much to my surprise.

[Unregistered]

The rewards gets tweaked/shuffled around a couple of times later; one a minor change, the other being far more notable.

The first tweak happened with Amphisbaena (3 raids from now); the last copy of the eidolon is at 57 red souls instead of 70. The last SR weapon copy is at 66 instead of 74 red souls. SSR weapon's still at 100, so if you want it, things are still the same.
Still need 150 blue souls for eidolon and 200 for SSR weapon though.

The major change to the rewards lists happens with Barong (2 raids after Amphisbaena).
Blue soul list only has 1 copy of the eidolon and weapons. 35 for the eidolon, 50 for the SSR weapon. Draconic eye shard at 200.
Red soul list has the rest of the copies, but interestingly, not enough copies of the SR weapons. You'll need to roll 1 copy from the gacha to max out an SR weapon. You can still max out the eidolon and SSR weapon through souls though. 55 red souls to finish the eidolon, 40 for the SSR weapon. Draconic eye shard at 90.

(ok, to be complete, in between Amphisbaena and Barong is Icarus. Icarus added the draconic eye shard at 170 blue and 90 red)

[sanahtlig]

The rewards gets tweaked/shuffled around a couple of times later; one a minor change, the other being far more notable.
So in other words, MLB'ing the Raid SSR weapons and eidolons becomes feasible without planning your life around it after the +45% eidolons are finished. I guess that's nice... in the far distant future.

[AutoCrimson]

7295

had nothing to do, so got last 50 divine souls in 2 days from regen... means 100 divine are doable even w/o spending a single seed

[Slashley]

7296
Spent about 70 Seeds, when including the Seeds I gained from Tickets. But maybe like 30 of those lost Seeds was from helping Union members with their Ragnaroks unnecessarily, so eh.

[Aidoru]

Wow, you guys must be lucky with getting consistent double soul drops or something. I spent well over 200 seeds for everything, granted I burned a lot because of Ragnarok on day 1 or unless you guys are using elixirs for starting up your own runs. Though I lost a fair amount of regen BP/AP because of work this week.

[Slashley]

I spent probably about the same amount of Seeds (not like I was counting), but I also gained a ton. I'm not too much down from what I started.

[AutoCrimson]

im down from 350 to 210 or so with seeds, after this event

granted, i was overusing it since start, finishing Ragna first (thus 114 red souls), meaning i can cut the amount for like 40

feels this one is even more luck dependant than it was, one SSR weapon drop (early) can reduce the number of seeds needed drastically

[Eunicorn]

Phew! Exactly at 20PDT got to 200 Divine souls. Lucky that I got 2 drops per raid in the last minutes.

[didimelo100]

End-up with 199 Divine and 76 Devil. I was on a expert run when the server got shutdown. Some of last runs gave me Devil souls when i don't needed. I'm seriously disappointed since my alt account is fully dark (except for Amaterasu). Sigh... At least i could get everything on my main account.

[AgentFakku]

was too busy w/ work
7311
didn't get any Eidolon or weapon - eh

[mustafa]

204/106/4,35kk
875 gacha used and ive got 2 SSR eidolons (1st from 695. and 2nd from 870. ticket)
pathetic i would say