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W4RL0RD
10-19-2017, 03:40 PM
So this is actually more than one question (and i feel kinda dumb like im missing a key information):

For one, how do you guys manage to get 4* Eidolons from Events? For Example in a Raid Event, I can only manage to get at the most 10-15 of divine and devils souls overall so 20-30 overall (a day), and thats with basically unlimited time since i dont have to work at the moment; I cant manage to do more than that even if i always used ap potions once im low on ap;
With the 1on1 battle events its even more difficult since the item requirements rise atrociously high really fast (like, 1* is manageable but with more you already need a ton of them)

Slightly different but in some ways the same with Kamihime; especially SSR; Once I get a new SSR Kami she is 1 or 2* really fast and 3* in manageable time, but for 4* you need the grimoire thingies and you dont get a lot of them. So how can you guys manage to have a huge stable of SSR Kamis with max break limit (even including max break limit on the lower Kamis with some guys), do you just play really active for a lot of time and it gets there eventually?

And lastly, how can I level my Kamihime faster? ive seen people managing to nearly max level fresh SSR a few days after they got them; but just through doing missions mine dont level nearly fast enough to get this high this fast, and sacrificing weapon material dont give nearly enough experience after getting to level 20 or so for me to speed it up a lot too, not to mention i need those to level my weapons.
I cant imagine how i should be able to awaken gaia; my strongest SSRs (which are Satan and Susanoo, i got those only around 2 weeks or so after starting and am playing since a few months ago) are only level 63 and gaia is 20 levels or something lower since i got her a lot later.
(I'll admit that i didn't really play really active around half of the time though.)

Would be really thankful if you guys could help me out (again)

Aidoru
10-19-2017, 03:56 PM
20~30 souls total for a raid event...? That's definitely not right, unless you're putting no time into the game. That's like saying you only run like ~30 raids total the entire 7~8 day event. Many players have to run over a hundred or two just for soul rewards. Raid events are excruciatingly time consuming, save all your BP recovery seeds to run them. If you're weak, that's fine, you get souls for participating and raid events don't need to be done solo. Advent events are very unfriendly towards new players, don't expect to complete the event eidolon until you can farm Ultimate or willing to put a lot of time and maybe even money into farming Expert (if you don't have the elixirs to do it)

Grimoires are gotten from events. So yes, the more you play the more you'll get. You'll eventually get enough that they just start stock piling. You can even get them in the raid event gachapon but when you're strong enough to handle Ultimate for Advent events, you can generally grab several SR and SSR grimoires without much issue.

For leveling, high rank players can just run the hardest currently available content like Ultimate Advent quest with their hime they need to level on the party sub slots without ever needing to use them. Either that or farm Sunday SP quest for lot of EXP. Since you're low level, you don't have much choice but to just keep battling with what you got and slowly progress til you have a decent level party to power level your other units.

W4RL0RD
10-19-2017, 04:08 PM
Ah yes sry of course i meant 10-15 of both souls overall A DAY, which amounts to 80-120 per soul overall (so 160-240 all in all) (though usually I only manage to get less than a hundred each which is obviously not enough to get all 150 on both.

I'm actually not that weak :p, just didn't know i had to focus on an element to get strong and didn't play a lot for some time, so im more of a low average.

Slashley
10-19-2017, 04:11 PM
That is a ton of questions... if you're going to ask many questions, you should label them or answering them becomes a real chore. People are going to skip questions.

The short answer is... just play a lot.
For one, how do you guys manage to get 4* Eidolons from Events?For Advents, just run Ultimates? If you can't do Ultimates, do what you can to power up.

If you can spend 16 hours of AP per day and the event lasts 7 days, then it's 145 Gold tokens-ish from AP alone. The SSR Eidolon costs 150 and the weapon costs 125. About half of those is from the last purchase, so a single Plat chest drop cuts the amount of farm down from 275 to 215-225. That doesn't happen every time, though.

You need to pot to make up for the difference. Half-pots are a valuable resource, but thankfully they're relatively plentiful.
For Example in a Raid Event, I can only manage to get at the most 10-15 of divine and devils souls overall so 20-30 overall, and thats with basically unlimited time since i dont have to work at the moment;What? How? When I picked up KH it was on day3 of Crom's Crotch, and I got 60+60 in the 4-5 days left in the event. On a brand new account. So... how? Just... play more? You just need to hit the boss once to get your Soul and then can come back to KH after 40-80 minutes to do it again...
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Slightly different but in some ways the same with Kamihime; especially SSR; Once I get a new SSR Kami she is 1 or 2* really fast and 3* in manageable time, but for 4* you need the grimoire thingies and you dont get a lot of them. So how can you guys manage to have a huge stable of SSR Kamis with max break limit (even including max break limit on the lower Kamis with some guys), do you just play really active for a lot of time and it gets there eventually?Raid events feed you in SSR books, SR books you get a few here and there. I hear getting SR books will now be harder, as they might be removed from Raid Gacha Tickets... haven't confirmed it though. We'll see next week.

Not all that many SR Hime need to be LMB'd though, quite a few have a terrible second skill.

And, the only people who have a huge stable of SSR Himes are people who pay. And for them, SSR books are a huge problem. For everyone else who plays the game actively are probably just outright flooded in excess SSR books.
And lastly, how can I level my Kamihime faster? ive seen people managing to nearly max level fresh SSR a few days after they got them; but just through doing missions mine dont level nearly fast enough to get this high this fast, and sacrificing weapon material dont give nearly enough experience after getting to level 20 or so for me to speed it up a lot too, not to mention i need those to level my weapons.I don't think you should ever spend weapon materials on Hime levels, what a waste. Just play the game. Ultimate Advents are a really source of exp, Raids are decent, 25 AP dailies are okay (and amazing on Sundays).

Advents are the best times to level up Hime especially at the point where you're potting to make up for the lacking Gold tokens. Like 50 runs for 130 Gold tokens is like 65k exp or so. That's enough to go from level 1 to 50ish?

Sooo...
tl;dr; do the best that you can if you can't run Ultimates yet, and once you can, it's just a matter of how much time you can put into the game. And "time" mostly means "spend your AP regen" more than anything, as you don't really need to get both SSRs from all events if you don't want to.

Unregistered
10-19-2017, 04:13 PM
Be willing to throw lots of seeds at the event, as well as clicking on Raid Boss in the menu over and over again to refresh the list.
Oh, and having the luck to actually pull at least... 1? copy of an eidolon from the event gacha to actually 4* it. At least, in the version of the raid system up to this point. I believe that starting with the next raid event, the reward format got updated such that sheer large quantities of time and BP thrown at the event should be sufficient to max the eidolon/weapons.

Aidoru
10-19-2017, 04:16 PM
Ah yes sry of course i meant 10-15 of both souls overall A DAY, which amounts to 80-120 per soul overall (so 160-240 all in all) (though usually I only manage to get less than a hundred each which is obviously not enough to get all 150 on both.

I'm actually not that weak :p, just didn't know i had to focus on an element to get strong and didn't play a lot for some time, so im more of a low average.

Yea, people get a lot more than that a day. Assuming I'm not working on the day the event starts, I often get about 50 of both souls on the first day and little less each day but usually done with the soul rewards within 4 or 5 days depending on how much time I'm putting into it.

I personally dislike doing raid events but they give so much nice rewards that they're pretty worth putting effort into. The upcoming Jack o Lantern raid event should changing the soul/BP reward system, though not sure if that's gonna change much for you.

W4RL0RD
10-19-2017, 04:23 PM
alright alright sry that there were a few misunderstandings, but thats really no reason to treat me like im either lazy, dumb, a noob, all of those or whatever;

I already corrected myself with the raids.
No, I didn't use weapon materials on Kamis i just said that it isn't a viable option.

If you dont wanna help and instead insult me and/or my account then please just refrain from saying anything at all;
I really thought this forum was to help people and when other people ask something they are treated fairly, so its really bothersome to be treated like the lowest of trash;

Thanks a lot for the help nevertheless aidoru; dont know what im doing wrong in raid event then o.O

Aidoru
10-19-2017, 04:27 PM
No one is insulting you.

W4RL0RD
10-19-2017, 04:36 PM
well im just gonna say thanks for the help then; dont wanna look like an ungrateful brat and some of the info actually was pretty useful;
i didnt actually mean insult anyway, just was kinda peeved by being assumed as weak and/or unable to understand how the game works when its really just a few small points about it; anyways, as i said before: thanks for the help, im just gonna shut up now.

someuser825
10-19-2017, 06:01 PM
I had been playing for about 2? months and made verrry slow progress until my first raid event. Probably around 15k listed attack at that point and was able to MLB wep and eidolon (i had some luck and won 1x SSR wep and 1x SSR eidolon from divine/devil gacha).

I was about 25k by the time the event ended.

Raid events are the biggest power bump for new players. Just save seeds and grind away at it. Don't be afraid to do ragnarok if it pops up.

Advents are rough. This event was my first solo rag kill against yata, and i'm water main. Ixion rag is still blowing me away at around 38k on my wind team. My wind team is crap though, no SSRs. I still attempt it every day with mordred for my soul and 3x dazzle tries(including mordred). Haven't gotten it to land yet but with some extreme luck I -might- clear it once this event.

Shieun
10-19-2017, 06:01 PM
If you're wondering how people are farming things so fast, the answer is that the team has been built and optimised well enough that they can throw them in battle, press auto (or auto skills) and do something else then come back and check them once every 2-3 minutes.

For raid battle it's more or less similar, you go in with your best team, press auto, leave burst on, and start whacking after your initial round of debuff. However there's just some thing you can't do as some of the bosses are downright OP and need your full attention.

As for levelling, you can put the hime you want to level on the sub team.

someuser825
10-19-2017, 06:05 PM
Just to add, I find the raid events to be extremely time(and seed) consuming to MLB both eidolon and wep unless you nail the gacha at least once. The divine/devil souls arent too bad but maxing the PP rewards is ridiculous.

Same for the union event we just had. I ended up with about 8mill individual PP but we only had about 4-5 players in my union actually contributing much... So yeah, I ended up one short on both the weapon(which is pretty damn good), and the eidolon(which is total garbage, except -maybe- the active effect)

Shieun
10-19-2017, 06:24 PM
Need to find those unions where people do actually work together.

I ended up contributing close to 4mil PP last union raid with 3 more days to go. Then I noticed no one else but me is doing the raid and I just stopped altogether...

Kinda disappointing tbh... thinking of changing to an union that aim for full PP reward...Looking at the size and the activity of my union, a big chunk of them are active, but not many of those would get the full individual PP reward

Syaimaral
10-19-2017, 06:45 PM
general tips:

quick lvl up of kami: run expert gold cave on sundays. best place for exp.

do upgrade quests on sunday, limited time quests on sunday, appears 3 times throughout the day, for one hour each. drops enhance materials

work on skill lvling your strongest assault ssr weapons using R weapons you pull from gacha. also use useless sr weapons as fodder. there are guides written on this so try to find one.

advent battles: just run ultimate, pot when you can, always do daily quests for the extra pots

raid events: during burst hour. hit close to death raids. burst atk, hopefully mvp. end raid. repeat. otherwise, do near full health raids during normal hours. mvp gives extra soul and more tickets.

daily mission tip: for the raid mission, you can join in and do nothing. raid will end when someone else kills it. you get refunded your bp and it counts as "assisting" for the daily mission.

also try not to waste ap/bp. like using 2 half elixirs and then lvling up. if you use one half elixir and it puts you near 60, or 30 after one run, wait it out. uses energy leafs if you have any when you have zero bp. otherwise, use 1 seed if only 1 bp available, etc. just plan to use your resources effectively

edit: also run disaster raids for sr weapon drops for fodder

Slashley
10-19-2017, 07:04 PM
-- limited time quests on sunday, appears 3 times throughout the day, for one hour each.--... unless you're in EU, in which case there's one at an okay hour (20-24, depending where you live) and the rest at hours you probably can't hope to play at... ;__;
-- otherwise, use 1 seed if only 1 bp available, etc. just plan to use your resources effectively--This shouldn't matter, because BP ticks are reset whenever you regen any. If you're 19 minutes into your BP tick and you use a Seed, you'll effective gain 1 minute.

sanahtlig
10-20-2017, 06:21 AM
I honestly don't MLB the weapon and eidolon in about half of Raid events. Raid events are simply too time-consuming and I have better things to do. I only go the extra mile when it's for one of my strong elements (Water or Wind), or the eidolon has a great active skill that makes it useful as secondary in those two teams.

Unregistered
10-20-2017, 07:03 AM
So this is actually more than one question (and i feel kinda dumb like im missing a key information):

For one, how do you guys manage to get 4* Eidolons from Events? For Example in a Raid Event, I can only manage to get at the most 10-15 of divine and devils souls overall so 20-30 overall (a day), and thats with basically unlimited time since i dont have to work at the moment; I cant manage to do more than that even if i always used ap potions once im low on ap;
With the 1on1 battle events its even more difficult since the item requirements rise atrociously high really fast (like, 1* is manageable but with more you already need a ton of them)


I would expect most people to have more trouble with getting the pp done honestly. If you legitimately have trouble with souls, the quickest way to get them would be to simply tap experts. If you don't have a lot of time, you can go into an expert, hit it once, then leave and join another expert to do the same since the game doesn't stop you from being in multiple raids at once.

It'll be a bit expensive on your seeds, and you obviously will get a lot less pp since you're skipping most of the battles, but you should always get at a soul if it's an expert raid.